Zeitgeist Deception - Producer no longer feels 9/11 was an inside job

[Wanted]

I just watched it and I agree with it for the most part, but the Venus project does seem a little shady and quite impossible to imagine at least at this moment. It is weird they would just be promoting it without any type of back support. The whole, technology, no work etc. does seem really impossible especially the part about no money, would be a great idea to bring in the microchip. I do agree with the part that human nature is not human nature, and human behaviour is learned and shapes us in ways that we think, and perceive the world. In general great film definitely.  

[realitycheck101]

I think it is just VERY slick and give people the idea that it will be THEM who decide the fate of the world when in fact this has all been planned a LONG LONG time ago.

Just go read about the New Age religion and their plans, go read about what they have to say about religion etc and you will find EVERYTHING you seen in this movie.

It is nothing more than a repackaged movie designed to look like they are part of the "Truth Movement", they have exposed everything that has already been exposed for several years now, however, what they keep secret is their AGENDA and who they REALLY work for.

However, I do find it strange that part of their solutions just happen to be the same as several guests whom Alex has had on lately.  And NO I am not implying that Alex is behind this movie, but I do think some of his guests sure are for the NWO and NEW Age agenda and are WOLVES in sheeps clothing.

[creat3d]

That is precisely what many were saying throughout the latter half of the 19th century, yet despite the astronomical advances in technology that have been made since then, well over a billion people reportedly live in poverty.

That has nothing to do with technology. It goes back to it being simply a tool, which can be used for good or evil.
If a billion people live in poverty, it's not because we can't help it... it's because the people in charge have no need for those people.

[Faxanadu]

I think one of the key points in the film which many here seem to be missing is that all of these things, these technological advancements, are possible now.   The technology is simply being suppressed.  The elite psychopaths covet the keys to total abundance and freedom for all.  This film gets to one of the primary roots of our struggle, and unlike nearly any other film I've seen, offers real solutions.  If the ideas seem naively utopian or too far out to some people, might I suggest that it is only a deficit in your imagination and your knwoledge of the technologies, nay, the POSSIBILITIES,  that ALREADY EXIST.   The film clearly makes a distinction between one world under the nwo and a world unified by ideas put into practice which constitute the antithesis to everything the nwo stands for.   My only qualm with the film is that it totally missed the key role of intrinsic psychopathy in our society, though it is possible that in the world envisioned psychopathy will no longer be an adaptive trait and die out.  I for one will be joining to Zeitgeist movement in solidarity with all other freedom movements of our day, in part because I have the imagination and the foresight to see what humanity really is capable of, and in part to help ensure that the movement does what it is explicitly intended to do, nothing else and nothing less.

[RonPaulRocks]

After watching the film I've been thinking a lot about it.  While I think this resource based society is awesome I don't see how there could not be some structure to it.  Assuming everyone lives together with love and peace is my dream, from human nature it doesn't seem realistic.  Although they admit in the film their model is not perfect but better than the monetary based society.  I think this resource based society could work over time but for the future we will have to work within this monetary based society.

It is so true we have to start seeing the world from a different point of view.  Think outside the box of all of it.  You can't even blame the elites for what is going on because they were simply born into their realities.  If this film sparks a movement to at least do the things Peter Joseph mentions at the end of ZA it will be a success.  We have to work towards a better future within this horrible system.  The internet is our friend and is waking up everyone.  Teach everyone about false flag terror and the phony war on terror and teach them all about alternative energy and food and scams the elite are pulling and expose the fraud that is the Federal Reserve through this collapse.  Changing peoples' mindsets will happen as they see the truth.

Simply amazing film and I want to watch it again.  While the venus project was a little weird to me it also gave me hope for the future.  The pictures and videos of the venus project were not that appealing but they were just models.  The message that he was getting to about it made a lot of sense.  If we could evolve we could scrap laws and money and work on a voluntary basis but there is much work to go to get to that point.  But the point is it gave me hope.  Having hope is powerful.  During this coming financial collapse and martial law we must wake as many people up as possible.  That is the first step. 

I actually wish these elites would watch Zeitgeist Addendum and stop trying to eliminate populations and see that the future could be so good if we all worked together.

[Geolibertarian]

That has nothing to do with technology. It goes back to it being simply a tool, which can be used for good or evil.
If a billion people live in poverty, it's not because we can't help it... it's because the people in charge have no need for those people.

Exactly! So, contrary to what ZA implies, the real reason the peoples of the world are afflicted with poverty, scarcity and war is not because we lack "technology," but because we lack control over our political institutions. And until we assert such control, technological advancement will continue to serve merely the criminals "in charge" of those institutions rather than humanity in general.

So you're right: this does have, as you say, "nothing to do with technology," and everything to do with politics.

And the only way that will ever change is for people to stop treating politics as just another spectator sport:

"In politics a person is not a citizen if the person's only function is to vote. Voters choose people who, in turn, act like citizens. They argue. They establish the forms within which people live their lives. They make politics. The people who merely vote for them merely make politicians. People who argue for their positions in a town meeting are acting like citizens. People who simply drop scraps of paper in a box or pull a lever are not acting like citizens; they are acting like consumers picking between prepackaged items. They had nothing to do with the items. All they can do is pick what is. They cannot actively participate in making what should be." -- Karl Hess, Community Technology, p. 10

The "people in charge" know this, of course, which is why they invest so much money and effort into controlling how the masses think:

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1kgSlLawyQ
• http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5631882395226827730

The solution, therefore, lies not in the advancement of technology, but in the advancement of thought:

"Social reform is not to be secured by noise and shouting; by complaints and denunciation; by the formation of parties, or the making of revolutions; but by the awakening of thought and the progress of ideas. Until there be correct thought, there cannot be right action; and when there is correct thought, right action will follow. Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness." -- Henry George, Social Problems, p. 242

[Geolibertarian]

I actually wish these elites would watch Zeitgeist Addendum and stop trying to eliminate populations and see that the future could be so good if we all worked together.

The elites are self-obsessed psycopaths, so attempting to persuade them with visions of how "good" the future could be for all of humanity (not just themselves) would have no more affect than the pleas of rape victims have on their attackers.

Thus, as with any other hardcore criminal, the only thing to do with these certifiable nutjobs is to arrest, prosecute and imprison them.

[Denton]

I haven't seen the movie, and i won't...thanks to this thread!  

The Venus-Project?
Sounds like a "all control freaks wet-dream comes true globally-project" to me!

What i've noticed, since the movie has been released, is that suddenly everyone is talking about the "Venus-Project", which is exactly what the movie was supposed to accomplish. Seriously, are there any other new information in that movie besides the "venus-project"?

I say f**k the venus-project and any other "let's save the world by creating global monumental control freak mechanisms for each aspect of of our lives"-projects.

Why not having a "get the hell out of my face, you damn control freak-nazi-bastards"-project? Let's call it the "infowar"!

[mike E. dangerously]

After watching this film,the message I got was this we as a species must evolve or we will continue down this path of destruction I see alot of the resident bible thumpers are up in arms about the idea of not having a dominate religion in their lives well,what through out history has caused more death and destruction next to money? religion! as for the Venus Project I say a resource based society won't happen overnight as long as TPTB are around as an earlier poster said they would much rather kill us all off or have of the many religious extremists do it for them before we make that evolutionary or should I say revolutionary step is made.I'm also gonna join the Zeitgeist movement.


PS: out of all these truth films we have one that actually offers a solution to the problems we face it is admittedly not perfect but I feel it's a start.

[chirhonius]

looks like it is currently #1 featured video on the front page 'hot videos'

http://video.google.com/

2463 Ratings

Once the goog censor crew comes in on monday it will prolly be gone 

[Dok]

After watching this film,the message I got was this we as a species must evolve or we will continue down this path of destruction I see alot of the resident bible thumpers are up in arms about the idea of not having a dominate religion in their lives well,what through out history has caused more death and destruction next to money? religion! as for the Venus Project I say a resource based society won't happen overnight as long as TPTB are around as an earlier poster said they would much rather kill us all off or have of the many religious extremists do it for them before we make that evolutionary or should I say revolutionary step is made.I'm also gonna join the Zeitgeist movement.


PS: out of all these truth films we have one that actually offers a solution to the problems we face it is admittedly not perfect but I feel it's a start.

A resource based society concept already exists, its called communism. Under communism there is no religion, everybody owns and shares everything, the community as a whole works for the betterment of everyone, no monetary system labor is exchanged for goods and modern technology makes communal production and distribution much easier, even on a global scale. This isn't some new and extreme idea, its an old idea repackaged. Maybe you should read Animal Farm by Orwell to see this Venus project in action. And since all Zeitgeist followers like to play the word games lets look at the word Venus and see what it means. Venus the lightbringer i think you guys can follow here. All you guys were set up in the end, they repackaged communism to appeal to todays people and you guys fell right in to it. Your not giving up your chains your just changing names. Even under a resource system you would still need a form of credit and capitalism, do you think your leaders in this system should do any of the manual labor? What about the people that supplely the technology shouldn't their ration cards be higher than everyones else? Again i refer you to Animal Farm "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". Don't be a Boxer.

[Novus Ordo]

I am confused.
Which ZA thread is it that allows fans/followers to extrapolate positively the Ideas in this wonderful piece of positive thinking?
Is this forum fundamentally a christian forum?
don’t get me wrong I fully understand why you didn’t call it
‘The Christian Prison Planet Forum’  or ‘Prison Planet Forum for Christians’ = 50% less traffic!
But quite frankly I’m tiered of feeling like shit after reading the same old same old same old crap
by a collection of people who are part of a....

---> EVER DECREACING CIRCLE<----!!!!

[MASTEROFMEN]

The Christian Prison Planet Forum’   im starting to think that to lol im not impressed this place is turning into a joke . somepeople thing there eyes are open because there on Prison Planet wordbord

[Loungin]

Novus and MasterofMen...  I'm with you.  Although, we have to expect that those who hold their religion close will fight this film tooth and nail.  It directly attacks every religion.  This forum is a black hole of depression.  If you haven't figured that out yet, let this be your confirmation from a member who has been here for a year.  If you want positive, uplifting, love oriented dialog then there are much better places than this.   What this forum does nicely is presents a consolidated "news of the day", from around the web, in which we can discuss the real ramifications. 

[Dig]

It directly attacks every religion. 

In my opinion, this film just suggests that their technocracy will be the new religion, the new cult of personality and freedom of religion will be done away with.

The constitution allows for freedom of religion and the founders had varying views of religion.  George Washington was very specific, even to prisoners of war, that they always be allowed to practice their individual faiths.One agenda I see in the film is to propose this new religion, the science religion with total compliance from all.  This of course is an attack on freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom to dissent.  That is what seems to be exposed in this thread.  Again, geo-thermal, wave tech, exposing 911 and the fed are awesome.  Wake Up Call has done an excellent job of spliting the incontrovertible parts of Z, I look forward to the compilations created from ZA.

The plan to have science be the only future religion has been around NWO for decades if not centuries.  Please watch the South Park episodes that expose the nonsense of it all (it will also allow you to look past the so called "doom and gloom" of this forum).  The solution that is proposed in this forum is not doom and gloom or a specific religion in general.  It is liberty, freedom, and reinstatement of the constitution.  The film talks about a "better completely centralized government."  Well the entire problem is centralized power.  That is what we are exposing, not so much the religious aspects.  Although that is a big part too.  The pictures of the future city are really cool, but that is just marketing.  It basically says that in the future, the all powerful central state will provide you all that you need and all people will be happy.

The symtoms of our ailments are fraudulent monetary policy, tyrannical military might,  hijacked religions, and corrupt corporatism.  The disease is centralized power over individual freedom. The film does not address this disease, it simply attacks the hijacked pillars of society and proposes that a more centralized power stucture built on science and technology will give us everything we need. Without responsibility for ourselves, we will give up our freedoms (what is left of them) to others.  I will repeat what Thomas Jefferson (a big believer in science, the statement on my signature are the last words he penned):

"Any government big enough to give you everything you need is powerful enough to take everything you have got."

[MASTEROFMEN]

your right man ,but i did have a account on this site ages ago , i got a message on my myspace for erin telling people about the new site just starting i remember the site b4 the forum started  i posted abit than and just got board with the same peoples opinions. Now that i have came back i read a good few posts and this amount of religious crap on this forum is out of hand. you cant have a debate with these people. Thay have been indoctrinated at a young age and dont understand the very basics of real science and histroy ,they pick and choose what small parts thay use from real science and dismiss the rest.  

pompous ignorant fools

[Loungin]

In my opinion, this film just suggests that their technocracy will be the new religion, the new cult of personality and freedom of religion will be done away with.

The constitution allows for freedom of religion and the founders had varying views of religion.  George Washington was very specific, even to prisoners of war, that they always be allowed to practice their individual faiths.One agenda I see in the film is to propose this new religion, the science religion with total compliance from all.  This of course is an attack on freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom to dissent.  That is what seems to be exposed in this thread.  Again, geo-thermal, wave tech, exposing 911 and the fed are awesome.  Wake Up Call has done an excellent job of splitting the incontrovertible parts of Z, I look forward to the compilations created from ZA.

The plan to have science be the only future religion has been around NWO for decades if not centuries.  Please watch the South Park episodes that expose the nonsense of it all (it will also allow you to look past the so called "doom and gloom" of this forum).  The solution that is proposed in this forum is not doom and gloom or a specific religion in general.  It is liberty, freedom, and reinstatement of the constitution.  The film talks about a "better completely centralized government."  Well the entire problem is centralized power.  That is what we are exposing, not so much the religious aspects.  Although that is a big part too.  The pictures of the future city are really cool, but that is just marketing.  It basically says that in the future, the all powerful central state will provide you all that you need and all people will be happy.

The symptoms of our ailments are hijacked religions, fraudulent monetary policy, tyrannical military might, or corrupt corporatism.  The disease is centralized power over individual freedom. The film does not address this disease, it simply attacks the hijacked pillars of society and proposes that a more centralized power structure built on science and technology will give us everything we need. Without responsibility for ourselves, we will give up our freedoms (what is left of them) to others.  I will repeat what Thomas Jefferson (a big believer in science, the statement on my signature are the last words he penned):

"Any government big enough to give you everything you need is powerful enough to take everything you have got."

What it proposes is a transformation of society.  What this film does is get us debating the root causes of our current situation and one possible solution.  This is a new debate because technology is growing at such alarming rates. (New in relation to the history of mankind) What is proposed, is leaving the notions of a dieing culture plagued by greed and embracing one centralized around caring for others.   This is nothing short of "service to self" VS "service to others".  Our 40hour work week does not promote service to others even though we spend those hours serving others.  We are there to make the money to pay the bills and do for SELF.  There are exceptions to the rule, but we aren't talking about the exceptions.  We are talking about a system that promotes greed and selfishness.

Think back to when you were a kid.  I distinctly remember wondering why every bottle and can was not being recycled.  It made no sense as a kid that we would throw these items into a landfill if we had the technology to reuse them.  Common sense.  Believe it or not, this strikes at the heart of the issue.  People don't care!  All of our theology, consumerism, and patriotism does not solve the issue of not caring about our fellow man and the planet on which we live.  This film suggests that we take that leap from "service to self" and move to "service to others" with technology allowing this change as greed is no longer needed in a world of abundance. 

The spicket has been shut off from the world.  It's time to get those who shut the spicket off out of power and debate a new way to go forward.

[Dig]

What it proposes is a transformation of society.  What this film does is get us debating the root causes of our current situation and one possible solution.  This is a new debate because technology is growing at such alarming rates. (New in relation to the history of mankind) What is proposed, is leaving the notions of a dieing culture plagued by greed and embracing one centralized around caring for others. 

I respectfully disagree, it does not adress the root cause.  The root cause is centralized power and leaving a dieing culture plagued by greed to embracing any that is centralized does not address the core problem.

The core problem is centralized power, not which form of centralized power is better.  Centralized power is inefficient, deceptive, and corruptable by its very nature.  Doing away with centralized power is the only chance of liberty.  Anything else is just another pyramid ponzi scheme in my opinion.

[trailhound]

 I think there are much better ways to take care of energy needs that dont require such a central control mechanism.  

 Some good pipe dreams in the flick, it would be great to not have to work and have whatever you want and do whatever you want...ah utopia, while it is wholly improbable and impractical it is a nice thought.  I have often thought that we would come to a point in time where the machines took care of the work and themselves and people would be forced to just entertain themselves... too much star trek, lol. But where else could we be reasonably heading given our current trajectory?

Same time i see the agenda of give a central high intelligence the power to build this utopia and the people of the world will be convinced this is the only coarse of action to 'save the planet.' Unity and collective group think...it has its faults, study the greeks and the problems with democracy.   Study the nazi's and their ambitious utopian dreams.

[Dok]

I think there are much better ways to take care of energy needs that dont require such a central control mechanism. 

 Some good pipe dreams in the flick, it would be great to not have to work and have whatever you want and do whatever you want...ah utopia, while it is wholly improbable and impractical it is a nice thought.  I have often thought that we would come to a point in time where the machines took care of the work and themselves and people would be forced to just entertain themselves...  too much star trek, lol. But where else could we be reasonably heading given our current trajectory?

Same time i see the agenda of give a central high intelligence the power to build this utopia and the people of the world will be convinced this is the only coarse of action to 'save the planet.' Unity and collective group think...it has its faults, study the greeks and the problems with democracy.   Study the nazi's and their ambitious utopian dreams.

Also that WALL-E movie, the machines took care of everything and the people were just meat socks.

[trailhound]

 I like the idea that the technology will get good enough to free the individual and there will be no need for centralized power or organization.  Way to cut through the BS Doc and Sane. Animal Farm good point. I think decentralization and every animal having his own farm is the way to go. You group think colectivists who might get up in arms about that are just not imaginative enough.

[chris jones]

Exactly! So, contrary to what ZA implies, the real reason the peoples of the world are afflicted with poverty, scarcity and war is not because we lack "technology," but because we lack control over our political institutions. And until we assert such control, technological advancement will continue to serve merely the criminals "in charge" of those institutions rather than humanity in general.

You said it brother.

[KingNeil]

You said it brother.

Not true. We are in an age of technology. How are you supposed to get control of the political institutions without getting assasinated with technological weapons?

[trailhound]

Not true. We are in an age of technology. How are you supposed to get control of the political institutions without getting assasinated with technological weapons?

so are you going to join the zeitgeist movement because they will kill you if you dont

its just like JMaxwell says, some are ordained to rule and you had best just serve them

know your place in line sheep

[Dok]

I like the idea that the technology will get good enough to free the individual and there will be no need for centralized power or organization.  Way to cut through the BS Doc and Sane. Animal Farm good point. I think decentralization and every animal having his own farm is the way to go. You group think colectivists who might get up in arms about that are just not imaginative enough.

Thanks, after watching the second film the first one made more sence. The first thing that i came to is this is communism repackaged, and Animal Farm is a perfect example of a resource society. Even the way the animals kept building the windmill fits in perfectley with the scenario. Bring in new technology to free up the people or animals in this case.

[KingNeil]

so are you going to join the zeitgeist movement because they will kill you if you dont

its just like JMaxwell says, some are ordained to rule and you had best just serve them

know your place in line sheep

You completely misunderstood me.

I didn't say that the Zeitgeist movement is going to assasinate me..!>>!>!>!>! WTF are yout talking about?

I said if you try and take over the current political establishment, namely the Fed, you get a bullet in your head. Jesus. You really have the intelligence of a snail.

[trailhound]

king neil wrote

You really have the intelligence of a snail.

  funny i have thought that about you many times too but didnt want to say it. Sorry i guess i misunderstood what you were saying in the context of this thread.

[Dig]

Not true. We are in an age of technology. How are you supposed to get control of the political institutions without getting assasinated with technological weapons?

I think again you are pointing to the essential problem as geolib has pointed out.  The political institutions have been hijacked and the hijackers must be brought to justice.  Technology, military, or whatever are all tools for the hijackers.  The tools are not the problem, nor the solution.  Our struggle is the same as it has been for generations...state sponsored oppression made possible by centralized control.

Dissenting from centralized control in support of the rights of man provides a clear solution that has already worked in this land.

[chrisfromchi]

seems to me they basically want the STAR TREK World.  For taht you need unlimited access to food, energy and transportation giving way to freedom of movement everywhere. I liked the little one world society they had in there and the future looked really bright. Thing is even in the Star Trek model we will need to go through an epic world war to bring about the consensus of change for that, they kinda leave that out and assume everyone in the world will jsut turn and support this futuristic society. too many are locked into the current world and such with no way of leaving it, so to bring out this change there must be the war to end all wars.

[Firewerk66]

In my opinion, this film just suggests that their technocracy will be the new religion, the new cult of personality and freedom of religion will be done away with.

Completely inaccurate to what the film's message was.

Religion:1.   a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Using technology for the good of all mankind while at the same time letting the ancient ways go by the wayside in favor of an entirely new paradigm is NOT the worship of technology. What AJ showed in the final chapter of Endgame was the wore case scenario with the elites ruling in classic society structures. Sometimes i think some people here are so far up AJ's ass that people take HIS word as the only way, the gospel. ZA shows us that if we are willing to re-educate ourselves and do away with old superstitions, the world can be a better place.

[trailhound]

ZA shows us that if we are willing to re-educate ourselves and do away with old superstitions, the world can be a better place.

I dont understand why our 'superstitions' need to be controlled, can you 'enlighten' me?

[Dig]

Completely inaccurate to what the film's message was.

Religion:1.   a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Using technology for the good of all mankind while at the same time letting the ancient ways go by the wayside in favor of an entirely new paradigm is NOT the worship of technology. What AJ showed in the final chapter of Endgame was the wore case scenario with the elites ruling in classic society structures. Sometimes i think some people here are so far up AJ's ass that people take HIS word as the only way, the gospel. ZA shows us that if we are willing to re-educate ourselves and do away with old superstitions, the world can be a better place.

Uh dude, I am not getting this from AJ.  I am getting this from South Park and I do not think Trey Parker and Matt Stone's word is the only word.  If you study the New World Order, science as the new religion is precisely their agenda.  There will be no conventional methods of reproduction in their documents and their words. Everyone will be subjected to profiling from birth to death to more efficiently be a useful part of the state.  Resources will all be controlled by the state to more efficiently distribute them.  I am not going off of only EndGame (which provides an amazing summary of the situation).  And AJ did not invent this crap, check out Alan Watt's website.  Just read HG Wells or Huxley.  This is not a "new" concept, science is positioned to be the New World Order religion, I hope I am not shocking anyone with this old information.

[Firewerk66]

I dont understand why our 'superstitions' need to be controlled, can you 'enlighten' me?

Because they are holding people back from their full potential as human beings. Not to mention the inherent divisiveness in most religions - bigotry, wars, separation, "my way is the TRUE way" thus breeding conflict. I thought it was telling that there are THOUSANDS of sects of Christianity, ie there is division and conflict even amongst your faith. I would suggest reading the teachings of J. Krishnamurti, one of the most underappreciated spiritual minds of the 20th century.

[Firewerk66]

Uh dude, I am not getting this from AJ.  I am getting this from South Park and I do not think Trey Parker and Matt Stone's word is the only word.  If you study the New World Order, science as the new religion is precisely their agenda.  There will be no conventional methods of reproduction in their documents and their words. Everyone will be subjected to profiling from birth to death to more efficiently be a useful part of the state.  Resources will all be controlled by the state to more efficiently distribute them.  I am not going off of only EndGame (which provides an amazing summary of the situation).  And AJ did not invent this crap, check out Alan Watt's website.  Just read HG Wells or Huxley.  This is not a "new" concept, science is positioned to be the New World Order religion, I hope I am not shocking anyone with this old information.

No this is not "new news" to me. I'm merely suggesting that what ZA presents is NOT technology as the new religion. People are still stuck in a thought process and paradigm that is thousands of years old and has gotten us no farther than modern tribalism, even with the introduction of technology over the past 100+ years. ZA introduces solutions. Many  people in the truth movement dont want to hear anything like that because it does away with long held belief systems and to change that is threatening to them.

[Dok]

J. Krishnamurti

Wasnt he supposed to of been the Maitreya untill they tried to bring him to America at the turn of the last century but right before he arrived the Maitreya consiousness left him. Isnt this Theosophy a "reliogion"

[Dig]

No this is not "new news" to me. I'm merely suggesting that what ZA presents is NOT technology as the new religion. People are still stuck in a thought process and paradigm that is thousands of years old and has gotten us no farther than modern tribalism, even with the introduction of technology over the past 100+ years. ZA introduces solutions. Many  people in the truth movement dont want to hear anything like that because it does away with long held belief systems and to change that is threatening to them.

Ok, technology is not new and has been around for thousands of years as well.

Religion is not the problem nor the solution according to the constitution.

Technology is not the problem nor the solution according to the history of the world.

Pyramid heiarchy and centralized power has definitely led to the greatest suffering in this world.  It has led to the wholesale slaughter and genocide of at least a hundred million people in the last century. 

Now back to the film...

The film is very powerful and has some incredibly provocative truths.  What exactly is wrong with keeping in ming NWO's direction with science/technology/eugenics while promoting it?

Additionally, splicing it into more powerfully provocative compilations might be a great idea.

[Geolibertarian]

People are still stuck in a thought process and paradigm that is thousands of years old and has gotten us no farther than modern tribalism, even with the introduction of technology over the past 100+ years.

Bingo! Hence the point I made two posts back about how the solution lies "not in the advancement of technology, but in the advancement of thought."

Thanks for making my case for me. 

[Firewerk66]

Bingo! Hence the point I made two posts back about how the solution lies "not in the advancement of technology, but in the advancement of thought."

Thanks for making my case for me. 

i agree with this sentiment, but no sir, my initial point was that technology without new thought = where we are now, however advanced technology (ie clean energy) WITH new thought processes = venus project.

[Firewerk66]

J. Krishnamurti

Wasnt he supposed to of been the Maitreya untill they tried to bring him to America at the turn of the last century but right before he arrived the Maitreya consiousness left him. Isnt this Theosophy a "reliogion"

yeas, he was being groomed but broke away from Theosophy and denounced ALL religious dogma. His main tenant is "Truth is a pathless land."

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yeas, he was being groomed but broke away from Theosophy and denounced ALL religious dogma. His main tenant is "Truth is a pathless land."

No he didnt, he expressed his New-Age teaching untill he died.
 "You know, in all this there are various powers like clairvoyance, reading somebody’s thought – which is the most disgusting thing to do: it is like reading letters that are private. There are various powers. You know what I am talking about, don’t you? You call them siddhis, don’t you? Do you know that all these things are like candles in the sun? When there is no sun there is darkness, and then the candle and the light of the candle become very important. But when there is the sun, the light, the beauty, the clarity, then all these powers, these siddhis – developing various centres, chakras, kundalini, you know all that business – are like candlelight; they have no value at all. And when you have that light, you don’t want anything else.”

Thats New-Age teaching and a religion. He never turned away from his Masters. This is the Guy at the begiging of the film. Jiddu Krishnamurti expressed a Consiousness based religion which is called Theosophy, or for a better term Hinduism. Its always good these movies always cry there is no Jesus but extolls their  New-Age beliefs.