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To extend my above remarks a bit, I would add that "closed science" is as much a dogmatic trap as was the "closed religion" of the Dark Ages. Science grew out of that time as a way to uncover God's wisdom outside the grip of the Roman Church. This got many people tortured and burned at the stake for witch-craft and heresy... we are heading this direction again...

Science was never outside Gods preview and much was discovered by divine revelation and honest research. However, this was seen as a great threat to the "Church," and it's power elite who murdered millions to protect their so-called "Godly" enterprise against Freedom and Gods Liberty.

Science like religion can be turned to serve evil if the people don't stay aware and vigilant for any and all attempts at their abuse.

Oldyoti

"While all other sciences have advanced,
that of government is at a standstill - little better
understood, little better practiced now than
three or four thousand years ago."
~John Adams

    JT..          The heretics, villians seeking the truth..The scientists who willfully use their talents to perpetrate the elites progam are but a percent of the many who seek but to unleash their ability for the betterment of mankind.
 The sold outs, over the line highbrows are regonizeable, those who seek to  expose  these madmen, to enlighten mankind are generally rebuffed, mutilated by the MSM, harrased, ingnored , labeld, intimiidated, and shunned by the scientific community.. Just as truthers are labeled consipiracy theories ,when in truth they are the percent who are incapeable of  returning to fanatasy land.
  The agency gets their claws into the talented, be it under the guize of supercorps, gov agencys, millitary etc.  I go 100% for men of honor and talent devoted the the revelation of truth. Wether it be scientists or men who can not give into the elites void. I beleive God bestowed some humans with  ability,the need, desire and courage to struggle & find answers, both past and future. I better shut up AGAIN.
 Yes, the HRK church began this trend with the inquisition, again lumping togeter men of fantastic potential are a threat, therfor standard and accepted science are dictated to by the lords on high.
 I'm a fan of Tesa, its no crime today to admire true genious, however it is for the guys running this side show.
  I desperetly wanted to be an archeoligist from a young age, geoligy was in apart involved in my longings as well , I was convinced they were intertwined. Guess what, despite the fact I was consumed with this longing, my hopes were extinguished at a tender age in public schooling. 
  Sorry to rant, I'll backoff, if the Gov, Collectors, Vatican archives , classified materied and confidential info are revealed.Plese don't lump all of those who seek answers as fringe dwellers of no conceques as the powers would have you believe.
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I seen it before and yes it is truly amazing.  Thanks for the memory.
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Was this a trial run?
  So many motives for this comes to mind, for whatever the truth is to this I hope it gives folks a heads up, it can happen here.
  Maby ciber attacks are on the map, whatever- prep up , buckle up.
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 This is amazing, geniuses exist.
 Imagine attempting to do this from scratch.No modern tech, no electricity, hand made!!!
 
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  Bad news for the familys.
  I was on a ship close to the P-36 petrobras production rig explosion. It's a gutwrenching feeling to see this.
 
 
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There is no #1,  our soul is forever only 2 choices  for unbelievers  its  hell with its eternal fire .
for believers its heaven , with Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.

Luke 16:23
And in hell he lift up his eyes being in torments, and see Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom:
Luke 16:24
And he cried, and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.
Luke 16:25
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy life-time received thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things, but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Luke 16:26
And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you, cannot, neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Luke 16:27
Then he said, I pray thee therefore father, that thou would send him to my fathers house:
Luke 16:28
For I have five brethren, that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.


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 This has been going on for years, no suprise is it.
 IF,IF, the pols had concentrated on this a few decades passed a solution could have been in effect, even to go as far as saying distilation could have been on the table, just one of the many methods of insuring a water supply.
 POLS, Brown took funds from the emergency flood funding?       
Emergency flood act.         Ya know the deal done,- in 2012...
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Chemtrails/Geo-Engineering / Re: ufos in california
« Last post by decemberfellow on Today at 08:37:07 pm »
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there were 2 white dots flying together, moving up and down like they were on a wave, and moving very fast
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2 orbs, black in color and not white, and they are moving very fast and are very high up

Alien Racism ?  :D  man we are screwed.

sorry couldn't resist.
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Chemtrails/Geo-Engineering / Re: ufos in california
« Last post by jerryweaver on Today at 07:47:06 pm »

Similar story happened while in mexico on holiday - we are in the jacuzzi and I look up and notice 2 orbs, black in color and not white, and they are moving very fast and are very high up. Also in the sky is birds, chopper, and 2 or 3 types of planes.  So in this jacuzzi I say "wtf is that ?? - I know what that is, I know what those are... and I know what THOSE are - but WTF is those?!?!? "   Then everybody got out of the jacuzzi except this old man and his wife. He told me about dulce, nm after he concluded I was initiated because I knew what bilderberg was when he asked if I heard of them. He spilled the beans to me on Dulce.

Something tells me that not only are we not alone, we are got by the balls and don't even know it.

Interesting.. Could you expand on the Dulce information?   Thanks.
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Chemtrails/Geo-Engineering / Re: ufos in california
« Last post by platinumpi4u on Today at 07:31:36 pm »
We witnessed 2 white orbs, while in socal. I was with about 15 sherriff deputies and a call for a heads up came across the radio.

When we looked up, sure enough there were 2 white dots flying together, moving up and down like they were on a wave, and moving very fast..... At the same time, there was a 747, a prop plane, and a helicopter in the sky. We all know what we saw. Perhaps a lay line goes through Irvine CA ?

Similar story happened while in mexico on holiday - we are in the jacuzzi and I look up and notice 2 orbs, black in color and not white, and they are moving very fast and are very high up. Also in the sky is birds, chopper, and 2 or 3 types of planes.  So in this jacuzzi I say "wtf is that ?? - I know what that is, I know what those are... and I know what THOSE are - but WTF is those?!?!? "   Then everybody got out of the jacuzzi except this old man and his wife. He told me about dulce, nm after he concluded I was initiated because I knew what bilderberg was when he asked if I heard of them. He spilled the beans to me on Dulce.

Something tells me that not only are we not alone, we are got by the balls and don't even know it.
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