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... from the Donald Trump thread:

Prescient Trump – Hidden Report:
Mexico Remittances Total More Than
Entire Mexican Oil Revenue….

... and our country is literally teeming with
people like this character. So encouraging to
hear the home owner won this round.

Hi Windy.
              Perfect, luv it.  This eliminates ,for the better part the suklings.
Those in desperate straits continue to receive, the true needy.
              It is ironic some people truly beleive they are getting over on the Gov when the reality is they are mucking taxpayers-the USA citizens.
            PS;  2016, I'll bet a buck to a dime this year will be the era of the inescapable truth.
Computers / Re: GOOGLE - ALPHABET
« Last post by Jackson Holly on Today at 07:25:46 AM »

Google's next 'Moonshot'? Making
Bernie Sanders president

Joan E. SolsmanFeb 11th 2016 5:20AM

Google invests millions of dollars in off-the-wall projects like self-driving cars and space balloons, called "moonshots." Electing a socialist U.S. president may be next.

The tech titan's parent company Alphabet is the top donor to presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, according to a ranking of federal election data from the Center for Responsive Politics.

Alphabet tops a list packed with technology giants. CRP's analysis, which includes contributions to a candidate's own campaign committee as well as any super PACs or hybrid PACs working on their behalf (Sanders doesn't have a super PAC), reveals four of Sanders' top five donors are tech companies, with Microsoft, Apple and Amazon joining Alphabet. (The University of California rounds out the top five.)

At nearly $99,000, Alphabet's contributions to his campaign are roughly triple that of his next biggest donor in CRP's data.

According to a report by the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, workers at the five biggest technology companies in Silicon Valley quadrupled their contributions to Sanders' campaign in the last three months of 2015 compared with the first three months of last year.
Hi Rev.
          I get it...If, and a BIG IF..
The intell services know they can extract high value information in a relatively short time using the foremention methods..Do they want to, do the people want to:
It all comes down to bottom line,who do ya trust.
Obviously we have been conned right and left, deceived,
 I get it.eliminate the sadistical shits that luv this shit, ( I have met a few of these wack jobs)
IF, our intell walked a strait line, (doubtfull) but if they did TS would save time, lives, leave the captive in the dark (no memory of giving up intell) no matter how loyal he may be (brain dipped).
So much for common sense, if Americans want maintain waterboarding among other tactics, let the blood fest roll. I said my piece...
In a combat situation when litteraly lives depend on immediate info at that very moment, no hold barred.
If a captive terrorist is in the hands of interogators, TS WORKS.
Your right, all of this depends on the integrity of our GOV-and their underlings.

BALKANLANDS / Re: Ask Serbian
« Last post by Al Bundy on Today at 06:57:16 AM »
Hi Al thanks for your reply.   Where I live in a big farming area
the men  all drive Pick Up Trucks, full size ones and a lot have
4WD  (four wheel drive) due to the winter weather here.   The
women mostly drive mini-vans and small SUV's.

Petrol - unleaded gasoline is $1.87  a gallon right now and
diesel fuel (for big pick up trucks) that's going for $1.84  a gallon.

The economy is terrible here in my area and I'm seeing a lot of changes
and everyone these days is trying to leach off the government instead
of working.   They all want a free ride. 

Next question :)

What local fruit and vegetables are grown in your region?

OK. Only one question for you ? You live and work in USA ?
Financial Crisis Forum / Re: The Daily Job Cuts
« Last post by windyacres on Today at 04:42:20 AM »
Carrier relocating Indy manufacturing to Mexico, 1,400 jobs affected   


Carrier has announced plans to relocate its Indianapolis operations to Mexico by 2019, affecting roughly 1,400 jobs.

Carrier manufactures heating, ventilating, air conditioning and refrigeration systems and operates a facility on W. Morris St. in Indianapolis. The company plans to relocate over the next three years in three phases.

United Steelworkers 1999 employs about 1,300 members at the Morris Street Carrier plant. Chuck Jones of Local 1999 tells WTHR that employees were notified Wednesday morning about the jobs moving to Mexico. On average, the jobs pay up to $24 per hour.

The first jobs will be going away in May 2017. Jones says the union will start bargaining for job loss benefits soon. Carrier says some employees may be eligible for its scholar program, which would help pay tuition, books and fees for college education.

Carrier's residential HVAC headquarters and engineering organization will remain in Indianapolis.

Chris Nelson, President, HVAC Systems and Services North America, said, "This move is intended to address the challenges we continue to face in a rapidly changing HVAC industry, with the continued migration of the HVAC industry to Mexico, including our suppliers and competitors, and ongoing cost and pricing pressures driven, in part, by new regulatory requirements. Relocating our operations to a region where we have existing infrastructure and a strong supplier base will allow us to operate more cost effectively so that we can continue to produce high-quality HVAC products that are competitively positioned while continuing to meet customer needs. This decision is difficult and we recognize the impact on employees, their families and the community. We are committed to ensuring that our employees are treated respectfully and to working closely with their representatives throughout this transition."
  Mexican home invader fires gun. Pissed off Texan home owner handles it

    Police: East Texas homeowner wins fight against alleged would-be burglar

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Police arrested Kevin Mitchell Gonzales, 28, after they say he tried to enter a Longview residence on Feb. 1, 2016. He lost a fight with the homeowner before his arrest.

A Longview resident thwarted a home invasion Monday. Mugshots of the alleged buglar show he apparently took a beating in the process.

Kevin Mitchell Gonzales, 28, was arrested after police say he engaged in a scuffle with a homeowner after trying to enter the dwelling through the garage. CBS 19 in East Texas reported that during the fight Gonzales pulled out a pistol and fired shot. The homeowner then removed the pistol from the suspect and managed to restrain him until police arrived.

The homeowner was not injured.

Police also found 18 Lorazepam pills in the suspect’s pants pocket. He faces charges for criminal trespass with a deadly weapon and possession of a controlled substance. Records show this is the fifth time that Gonzales has been booked into a Gregg County Jail.
Ford Motors Just Showed Us What the TPP Will Do to the US Economy

Claire Bernish
February 10, 2016

(ANTIMEDIA) Ford Motor Company announced plans to manufacture 500,000 vehicles at its new factory in Mexico in 2018 — and the company isn’t alone in the move. The announcement came after delegates from 12 countries signed the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the massive treaty ironically called a ‘free trade deal,’ which analysts have predicted could cause the loss of nearly half a million U.S. jobs.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Ford’s Mexico operations, which should double its 2015 production, will originate from a new assembly facility in San Luis Potosí, as well as from the expansion of a factory in Mexico City. This plan “mirrors” a $5 billion investment by Ford rival, General Motors, to double its production capacity in Mexico by 2018.

While the TPP has been touted by politicians as an extraordinary benefit to the U.S., Mexico’s lower labor costs will instead help that country’s economy reap the rewards — already evidencing the enormous trade deal’s similarities to NAFTA (the North American Free Trade Agreement), which many have come to view as a disaster for the U.S.

Incidentally, the Ford announcement comes on the heels of negotiations by the United Auto Workers union for more expensive labor contracts. The Detroit Free Press reported that on Friday, “UAW President Dennis Williams said automotive investment in Mexico is a ‘huge problem.’

“Williams argues that Ford, as well as General Motors and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, are all earning profits now in North America and says they don’t need to move production to make profit.”

So-called ‘free trade deals’ are specifically named as one of many reasons a number of vehicle manufacturers from around the world have recently invested heavily in production and operations in Mexico.

As the Wall Street Journal reported, “Most global auto makers have in recent years opened new assembly plants in Mexico or announced plans for one, including BMW AG, Volkswagen AG, and Toyota Motor Corp.” Honda and Kia have also partially moved operations there.

Hourly labor rates in the U.S. are around five times greater than those for Mexican workers — a gap that is expected to widen in coming years.

“There is no reason, mathematically, [for automakers] to go ahead and run to countries like Mexico, Thailand, and Taiwan,” Williams said. Perhaps the reason comes down to profit-seeking, and though U.S. automakers continue to do well, Mexican labor remains more cost-effective.

But the nightmare of the TPP, which is often dourly and accurately dubbed a corporate coup, appears to be affecting U.S. job prospects already, as the migration of jobs in the interest of cheap labor has begun — exactly as predicted.
Maine Required Childless Adults to Work to Get Food Stamps.
Here’s What Happened 

Jason Greenslate, a Californian who reported that he spends his time surfing and playing in his rock band, all the while receiving benefits from the food stamp program. (Photo: Fox News / Screenshot)

One trillion dollars—that’s how much the government spent last year on means-tested welfare aid, providing cash, food, housing, medical care, and social services to poor and low-income individuals. The food stamp program is the nation’s second largest welfare program.

The number of food stamp recipients has risen dramatically, from 17.2 million in 2000 to 45.8 million in 2015.

The number of food stamp recipients has risen dramatically, from 17.2 million in 2000 to 45.8 million in 2015. Costs have soared over the same period, from $20.7 billion in 2000 to $83.1 billion in 2014.

The most rapid growth in the food stamp caseload in recent years has been among able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs). These are work-capable adult recipients between the ages of 18 and 49 who do not have children or other dependents to support.

The Need for Work Requirements

Since 2008, the food stamp caseload of adults without dependents who are able-bodied has more than doubled nationally, swelling from nearly 2 million recipients in 2008 to around 5 million today. They gained notoriety when Fox News aired a documentary on food stamps featuring 29-year-old Jason Greenslate, a Californian who reported that he spends his time surfing and playing in his rock band, all the while receiving benefits from the food stamp program.

>>> Read the full report by Robert Rector and Rachel Sheffield: Maine Food Stamp Work Requirement Cuts Non-Parent Caseload by 80 Percent

In response to the growth in food stamp dependence, Maine’s governor, Paul LePage, recently established work requirements on recipients who are without dependents and able-bodied. In Maine, all able-bodied adults without dependents in the food stamp program are now required to take a job, participate in training, or perform community service.

Job openings for lower-skill workers are abundant in Maine, and for those ABAWD recipients who cannot find immediate employment, Maine offers both training and community service slots. But despite vigorous outreach efforts by the government to encourage participation, most childless adult recipients in Maine refused to participate in training or even to perform community service for six hours per week. When ABAWD recipients refused to participate, their food stamp benefits ceased.

In the first three months after Maine’s work policy went into effect, its caseload of able-bodied adults without dependents plummeted by 80 percent, falling from 13,332 recipients in Dec. 2014 to 2,678 in March 2015.

This rapid drop in welfare dependence has a historical precedent: When work requirements were established in the Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) program in the 1990s, nationwide caseloads dropped by almost as much, albeit over a few years rather than a few months.

Government should aid those in need, but welfare should not be a one-way handout.

The Maine food stamp work requirement is sound public policy. Government should aid those in need, but welfare should not be a one-way handout. Nearly nine out of ten Americans believe that able-bodied, non-elderly adults who receive cash, food, or housing assistance from the government should be required to work or prepare for work as a condition of receiving aid.

LePage’s reform puts the public’s convictions into action. The Maine reforms recognize that giving welfare to those who refuse to take steps to help themselves is unfair to taxpayers and fosters a harmful dependence among beneficiaries.

Off-the-Books Employment

The Maine work requirement also reduces fraud. The most common type of fraud in welfare involves “off the books” employment. In food stamps, as in other welfare programs, benefits go down as earnings rise.

But “off the books” employment is rarely reported to the welfare office; hiding earnings enables a recipient to “double-dip,” getting full welfare benefits he is ineligible to receive while simultaneously receiving earnings from an unreported job.

A work requirement substantially reduces welfare fraud because insisting a recipient be in the welfare office periodically interferes with holding a hidden job. Recipients cannot be in two places at once. Faced with a work requirement, many recipients with hidden jobs simply leave the rolls. No doubt, a significant part of the rapid caseload decline in Maine involves flushing fraudulent double-dippers out of the welfare system.

Government data show that many adults without children on food stamps use their own funds counter-productively. Over half of able-bodied adults without dependents regularly smoke tobacco; those who smoke consume on average 19 packs of cigarettes per month at an estimated monthly cost of $111. These individuals rely on the taxpayers to pay for their food while they spend their own money on cigarettes.

The federal government should establish work requirements similar to Maine’s for the 4.7 million able-bodied adults without dependents currently receiving food stamps nationwide. If the caseload drops at the same rate it did in Maine (which is very likely), taxpayer savings would be over $8.4 billion per year. Further reforms could bring the savings to $9.7 billion per year: around $100 per year for every individual currently paying federal income tax.

Some may argue that individual state governments, and not the federal government, should choose whether to require work in the food stamp program. But over 90 percent of food stamp funding comes from the federal government. Since the federal government pays for nearly the entire food stamp program, it has the obligation to establish the principles on which the program operates.

Requiring work for able-bodied welfare recipients was a key element of President Ronald Reagan’s welfare philosophy. It was the foundation of the successful welfare reform in the 1990s. But the idea of work in welfare has fallen by the wayside. It is time to reanimate the principle.
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