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9/11/2001 Attacks Were An Inside Job => Other False Flags Throughout History => MI6 Mumbai False Flag => : Dig November 26, 2008, 01:46:03 PM

: G7 False Flag Mumbai massacre...Official story is TOTAL BS! Hindu Undercover!
: Dig November 26, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
Looks like the press is either sensationalizing or desensationizing this stuff.

Please post various international reports on this so we can try and find out what is what.

Apparently they have been targeting financial areas with small arms/grenades.

This seems unlikely to be a full false flag (unless they wish to say each instance should be treated as a full terror plot).

It also is unlikely the tamil tigers (the most advanced form of suicide bombers and terrorists on the planet-BTW-they are not muslim, they are Hindu). But the tigers always hit their target (far as I know) and they are high risk/high level targets.  They usually do not get involved with small arms chaos like this seams to be.

Who knows maybe it is paid provocateurs to test out the new microwave weapons.
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 01:50:47 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_16_dead_many_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms

Terror attacks in Mumbai; 16 dead, several injured

MUMBAI: Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinate serial explosions and indiscriminate firing rocked
eight areas across Mumbai including the crowded CST railway station, two five star hotels--Oberoi and Taj-- leaving 16 persons dead and 50 injured. ( Watch )

Armed with AK-47 rifles and grenades, a couple of terrorists entered the passenger hall of CST and opened fire and threw grenades, Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A K Sharma said.

The terror strike which began at 10:33 PM at Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus(CST), formerly known as the Victoria Terminus(VT), claimed 10 lives in the premises of the station alone, police said.

Three persons were killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number were gunned down at Taj Hotel. The victims in the hotel were its employees.

The lobby of the Oberoi hotel was on fire and the hotel evacuated, eyewitnesses said.

Maharashtra DGP A N Roy said tonight's attack in "at least seven places" is a "terror strike."

Sharma said 30 persons were injured in the CST incident. Commandoes were rushed to the CST which wore a deserted look and train services suspended.

Some people were injured in the firing in Oberoi hotel, and taken to a nearby hospital in police vans and ambulance. Firing was also reported in Taj hotel.

Firing was reported at Colaba, Nariman Point and near Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal, formerly Victoria Terminus and it was still continuing.

Firing was also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai, police said, adding that a blast was reported in a taxi under a flyover in suburban Vile Parle. A bomb went off in a taxi in Mazegaon dockyard road.

SRPF personnel then entered the iconic BMC building -- just opposite CST -- to take aim at the assailants, BMC commissioner Jairaj Phatak said. "We fear some of the assailants are still inside the station and we want to catch them if they come out," a police official said.

Vikhroli police station senior inspector Habib Ansari was on his way to work from his Colaba home when he saw two armed men, with sophisticated weaponry, trying to run into bylanes near the Gateway of India.

"I rushed back to Colaba and all policemen, including GRP and RPF personnel, were called up," he added.

Bhisham Mansukhani, a journalist, was attending a wedding reception at the Taj's Crystal Room. "I was inside the bar when glass shards almost hit my eye," he said. "More than 200 people were escorted inside Chambers, a business centre inside the hotel," he added.
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: TheGoodFight1984 November 26, 2008, 01:51:12 PM
Reuters:

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Fatal shootings in India's financial hub of Mumbai appear to be a terrorist attack, a senior police office said on Wednesday.

"It seems to be a terrorist attack, many places under siege by gunmen," A.K. Sharma, a Mumbai government railway police commissioner, told local television.

There were reported of shootings in other parts of the city, including some five star hotels.

At least two people have died and 10 have been wounded.

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PressTV Iran

16 killed in Mumbai's terror attacks
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:37:00 GMT
A series of bomb blasts and shootings across India's largest city of Mumbai has left at least 16 people killed and many others wounded.

The attacks hit India's financial capital late on Wednesday as at least five near-simultaneous firings and explosions rocked areas in South Mumbai, Times of India reported.

No group has claimed responsibility for the terror attacks.

JR/MMN
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: TheGoodFight1984 November 26, 2008, 01:52:43 PM
BBC


Mumbai rocked by deadly shootings
TV grab
There are reports of attacks at seven locations

Gunmen have opened fire at a number of sites in the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay), killing at least 10 people and injuring others, local reports say.

Police said the shootings appeared to be terrorist attacks.

Gunmen opened fire at seven sites including a train station and a restaurant popular with tourists.

Shootings were also reported near two hotels and at a hospital. At least two blasts, suspected to be grenade attacks, were reported.

"The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed," said AN Roy, police commissioner of Maharashtra state.

Sajjad Karim, an MEP for the North West of England who is in Mumbai, told the BBC he had seen a gunman opening fire in the lobby of Taj Mahal Palace Hotel.

He said he had seen people fall before fleeing to a restaurant, where the doors had been barricaded.

"All I saw was one man on foot carrying a machine gun type of weapon - which I then saw him firing from and I saw people hitting the floor, people right next to me," he said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7751160.stm

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The Independent

Series of 'terror attacks' hit Mumbai

Reuters and AP
Wednesday, 26 November 2008


Police say a series of attacks by terrorist gunmen have hit at least seven sites in Mumbai, including two luxury hotels. Indian television is reporting that 25 people have been killed.

A.N. Roy, a senior police officer, saidpolice were battling the gunmen.

"The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed. The encounters are still going on and we are trying to overpower them," Roy said.

The gunmen attacked two luxury hotels, the Taj and the Oberoi, as well as the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus station in southern Mumbai and Leopold's restaurant, a Mumbai landmark.

Television stations showed fires in the lobby of both hotels and people being evacuated from the Oberoi with their hands on their heads.

India has suffered a wave of bomb attacks in recent years. Most have been blamed on Islamist militants, although police have also arrested suspected Hindu extremists thought to be behind some of the attacks.

A British Euro-MP was among guests under siege in their Mumbai hotel in the wake of the attacks.

Sajjad Karim, speaking by mobile phone from a barricaded basement room at the Taj Mahal Palace hotel, said he and others had fled from machine-gun fire and had no idea why the hotel was targeted.

He said: "I was in the lobby of the hotel when gunmen came in and people started running. There were about 25 or 30 of us.

"Some of us split one way and some another. A gunman just stood there spraying bullets around, right next to me. I managed to turn away and I ran into the hotel kitchen and then we were shunted into a restaurant in the basement.

"We are now in the dark in this room and we've barricaded all the doors. It's really bad."

Mr Karim is part of a delegation of Euro-MPs visiting Mumbai ahead of the forthcoming EU-India summit.

He said that as he ran from the lobby, he saw people falling but did not know the extent of any casualties. He said it seemed to be a "random attack".

Mr Karim, a North West MEP, defected from the Liberal Democrats to the Conservatives in the European Parliament a year ago.

The Taj Mahal Palace, one of the most famous hotels in India, was home to the England cricket team when they visited Mumbai around two weeks ago.

They were also planning to use the hotel on their return to the city for the team's second Test Match against India, which is scheduled to start on 19 December.

The team were in the eastern Indian city of Cuttack today after losing their latest one-day game against India.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/mumbai-shootings-are-terror-attack-say-police-1036457.html
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASSE UPDATE
: creat3d November 26, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Five police killed in Maoist attack in India
Posted :  Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:24:24 GMT

New Delhi -At least five policemen were on Tuesday killed in a landmine blast triggered by suspected Maoist rebels in India's central state of Chhattisgarh, a news report said. The explosion that took place in the southern Bastar district of the state blew up a bridge killing five policemen and injuring two other security personnel, the PTI news agency reported quoting senior police official AN Upadhya.

The rebels carried out the blast when the policemen were returning after their election duty at polling booths in the region.

Chhattisgarh is one of the six Indian states holding elections.

Senior police officials and additional police forces have been sent to the region, considered a hotbed of Maoist militancy.

Maoist militants, who claim to be fighting for the rural poor, operate in 13 of India's 29 states. They usually target police and government installations.

According to independent estimates, over 500 people - including civilians, police and rebels - have been killed in Maoist violence in India since the beginning of the year.



1,120 deaths from 69 Islamic terrorist attacks since 2000. When does India say enough is enough?
Aroon Purie
July 31, 2008

When does a nation say enough is enough? If you are India, it seems like never in spite of 1,120 deaths from 69 Islamic terrorist attacks since 2000. Last week saw 54 deaths in blasts on consecutive days in Bangalore and Ahmedabad. A day later, 28 bombs were defused in Surat.

In the last 10 years, there have been bomb attacks in Mumbai, Coimbatore, Srinagar, Ahmedabad, Delhi, Varanasi, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Jaipur, more than once in some cities.

In 2007, the United States’ National Institute of Counter Terrorism calculated that between January 2004 and March 2007, the death toll in India from all terrorist attacks was 3,674, second only to Iraq during the same period.

On the terrorist death charts, we are second to a country which has a civil war on its hands and has an occupying army. This is incredible.

What has been most frustrating in these last few days is the sameness of the events. Bombs go off, lives are lost, a home minister mouths a few platitudes, and a few days later, everyone gets on with their lives exactly as they did before. Terrorists seemed to attack at will and the real culprits are never caught. No place is safe in India.

Look at what America did after 9/11. Despite being one of the world’s most liberal democracies where you can burn the national flag or wear it as underwear, they introduced the Patriot Act which allows detention, tapping of phone conversations and monitoring emails and bank accounts in the interests of the State.

The Department of Homeland Security was set up to co-ordinate the work of all intelligence agencies. Although they are the prime target for terrorists, the US has had no terrorist attack since 9/11.

In India, like in other spheres, we go through the ritual of dealing with terrorists but actually do nothing substantive. We have repealed acts like POTA which were meant to tackle terrorism through pre-emptive arrests.

Our security agencies do not work in a co-ordinated manner to make full use of the intelligence. Law enforcement is not funded enough for adequate policing and developing intelligence networks. There is no sense of purpose conveyed to citizens at large to get their co-operation in preventing such attacks.

Our cover package this week is a comprehensive look at the Indian state’s response to terror, or more aptly the lack of it. We have on-the-spot reports as well as an analysis of the radicalisation of the Indian Muslim and how and why the moderates are losing the battle. Seasoned journalist M.J. Akbar and Islamic terror expert Charles Allen have also written special guest columns in the package.

As we near the 61st anniversary of Independence, India appears still enslaved by timidity when it comes down to tackling terror. It is time to say enough is enough and declare zero tolerance for terrorism. Otherwise, the “Incredible India” story is turning into “Impotent India”.


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: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: creat3d November 26, 2008, 01:58:14 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457885,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457885,00.html)
25 Wounded During Mumbai Terror Attack

Gunmen targeted luxury hotels, a popular tourist attraction and a crowded train station in at least seven attacks in India's financial capital Thursday, wounding 25 people, police and witnesses said.

It was not clear how many of those were dead or injured, but Indian television stations are reproting at least 20 dead, while Reuters puts the number at 10.

A.N Roy police commissioner of Maharashtra state, of which Mumbai is the capital, said several people had been wounded in the attacks and police were battling the gunmen.

"The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed," said Roy.

Gunmen opened fire on two of the city's best known Luxury hotels, the Taj Mahal and the Oberoi. They also attacked the crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus station in southern Mumbai and Leopold's restaurant, a Mumbai landmark.

It was not immediately clear what the motive was for the attacks.

"It was really scary. It was like the sound of loud crackers, not one but several, we just ran out of there," said Janice Sequeira, a tourist who had been at a restaurant in the Taj Mahal Hotel.

At the Oberoi, police officer P.I. Patil said shots had been fired inside and the hotel had been cordoned off. He would not give any other details.

The Press Trust of India news agency quoted Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A.K. Sharma as saying that several men armed with rifles and grenades were holed up in the train station.

Leopold's restaurant was riddled with bullet holes and there were blood stains on the floor and shoes left by fleeing customers, according to an Associated Press reporter at the scene.

At least 25 people had been brought to the G.T. Hospital near the shootings, said hospital official Yogesh Pandey.


http://cbs3.com/topstories/Mumbai.terrorist.attacks.2.874587.html (http://cbs3.com/topstories/Mumbai.terrorist.attacks.2.874587.html)
Reports: At Least 10 Dead In Attacks Across Mumbai
Police Still Trying To Subdue Attackers

 Police say several people have been wounded in a series of attacks by terrorist gunmen at seven sites in Mumbai, including two luxury hotels.

According to CNN's sister network in India CNN-IBN and BBC News, at least 10 people have reportedly been killed.

A.N. Roy, a senior police officer, says several people have been wounded, and police were battling the gunmen.

"The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed, the encounters are still going on and we are trying to overpower them," Roy says.

The gunmen attacked two luxury hotels, the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus station in southern Mumbai and Leopold's restaurant, a Mumbai landmark.
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: Optimus November 26, 2008, 02:02:57 PM
UPA govt projecting India as a terrorist country: BJP
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Jaipur/UPA_govt_projecting_India_as_a_terrorist_country_BJP/articleshow/3753430.cms
25 Nov 2008, 0432 hrs IST, TNN

JAIPUR: The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on Monday accused Congress-led UPA government at the Centre of projecting India as a ‘terrorist country’.
 
Party vice-president Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi alleged that Congress was deliberately drawing religion into terrorism.

Addressing a press conference on Monday at the state BJP headquarters, Naqvi said, “It’s an old habit of Congress. It began with Sikh terrorists, then it was Muslim terrorists and now, it’s Hindu terrorists. The Congress is deliberately drawing religion into such a sensitive issue.’’ Taking a dig at Congress president Sonia Gandhi, albeit without naming her, he added, “All Indians are terrorists and their belief in foreign leader is patriotism.’’

He further alleged that this was all part of Congress’ divide and rule policy, which it has been following for years. “It was following its false propaganda on Sikh terrorism that Congress lost its power then and now, it will lose it again because of its recent actions,’’ he said, adding that a narco analysis test on ‘Congress’ mind’ should be conducted to understand its ideology. He also alleged that Congress’s weak stand on Pak supported terrorism has led to LeT and ISI becoming more active in the country.

Naqvi, who attended a meeting of the election management committee on Monday, claimed that according to their assessment, BJP will easily win in four of the six states which are going into elections, including Rajasthan, MP and Chhattisgarh while it would record an increase in number of seats in Jammu and Kashmir and Mizoram.

Meanwhile, the BJP has started finalizing the tour plan for its senior leaders. Party president Rajnath Singh will be addressing public meetings at Nokha, Laxmangarh and Ajmer on Wednesday. Chief minister Raje will address public meetings at Banswara and Dungarpur on Tuesday while Hema Malini would be visiting Jhalore, Pali and Jodhpur the same day.
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: Brocke November 26, 2008, 02:06:55 PM
MUMBAI TERROR: Hotels, hospital, bus stands, cinema halls attacked

VIDEO: http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/79122/mumbai-terror-hotels-hospital-bus-stands-cinema-halls-attacked.html

CNN-IBN
TimePublished on Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 22:39, Updated on Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 00:25 in Nation section

    * Terrorists still holed up at three places, including Oberoi and Taj hotels; encounter in progress, says DGP A N Roy
    * Colaba: BP Petrol Pump blown up
    * 10 killed in Colaba attack
    * Taxi blown up in Vile Parle
    * Gun battle outside Metro cinema hall
    * Hotel Oberoi, Hotel Taj under siege
    * RAF considering commando action, may storm hotels
    * Mumbai police say air surveillance ready
    * Local trains suspended
    * Gunfire and grenades, the latest modus operandi of terrorists
    * Roads in Mumbai completely deserted
    * Terrorists still holed up at Nariman House
    * Crowded areas and buildings one behind another, difficult situation for rescue
    * Most Mumbai targets foreigners' favourite hangouts
    * PM briefed about the situation by Home department

Mumbai: Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinated serial explosions and indiscriminate firing were reported from at least eight locations across Mumbai.

At least 18 people are reported killed and 24 are seriously injured.

The coordinated terror strike which reportedly began at 2233 PM at Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus(CST), formerly known as the Victoria Terminus(VT), killed 10 people in the premises of the station, police say.

A petrol pump has been blown up in Colaba by armed men and at least 10 people are reported to have been killed in that strike. Three persons are killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number have been gunned down at the five-star Taj Hotel. The victims in the hotel were its employees.

Live updates: HOTELS UNDER SIEGE

The five-star Hotel Oberoi is also under siege and gunmen are reported to have held the occupants hostage. Reports say 10 gunmen are holed up inside Hotel Oberoi and the Rapid Action Force is considering storming the hotels.

The shooting at the hotels was reported between 2215 hrs IST and 2230 hrs IST when bullets, apparently from automatic weapons, were fired at police and paramilitary forces outside the Taj Hotel. The lobby of Hotel Oberoi is reportedly on fire. The RAF is considering storming the hotels.

Live updates: FIRING AT CST

The next, near simultaneous shooting took place near the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus police station in which six people were injured.

Police have cordoned off the CST Railway Terminus, a crowded place at this time of the evening, and have stopped entry. Press Trust of India reports two persons armed with automatic weapons and hand grenades are holed up inside the CST station.

PTI also reports three people, employees of Taj Hotel in South Mumbai, were killed after being fired upon by terrorists and an equal number of people died in a bomb blast in a taxi at Dockyard Road. The Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, headquarters of the Central Railway, is a world heritage building and remains crowded almost throughout the day.

Local train services to and from CST have been suspended. A police official said he saw two people, armed with automatic weapons at CST. "They opened indiscriminate fire and fled inside. They are reported to be holed up between platform seven and eight," he said.

Two more blasts have been reported from Majhgaon and BPT Colony.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/terror-attack-in-mumbai-2-hotels-under-siege/79122-3.html
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: Optimus November 26, 2008, 02:19:23 PM
Looks like the Indian government is blaming the Hindu religion as being 'terrorists' now.

India shocked by discovery of first Hindu terror cell
At least 10 people, including monk and army officer, held over bombings initially blamed on Islamists

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-shocked-by-discovery-of-first-hindu-terror-cell-1031237.html
By Andrew Buncombe in Delhi
Sunday, 23 November 2008

India is in something of a state of shock after learning from official sources that its first Hindu terror cell may have carried out a series of deadly bombings that were initially blamed on militant Muslims. The revelation is forcing the country to consider some difficult questions.

At least 10 people have been arrested in connection with several bomb blasts in the Muslim-dominated town of Malegaon in the western state of Maharashtra in September, which left six people dead. But reports suggest that police believe the cell may also have carried out a number of previous attacks, including last year's notorious bombing of a cross-border train en route to Pakistan, which killed 68 people. Among the alleged members of the cell are a serving army officer and a Hindu monk.

Bomb attacks are not uncommon in India – there has been a flurry in recent months – but police usually blame them on Muslim extremists, often said to have links to militant groups based in either Pakistan or Bangladesh. As a result, the recent cracking of the alleged Hindu cell has forced India to face some difficult issues. A country that prides itself on purported religious and cultural toleration – an ambition that in reality often falls short – has been made to ask itself how this cell could operate for so long. India's military, which prides itself on its professionalism, has been forced to order an embarrassing inquiry.

The near-daily drip of revelations from police has also caused red faces for India's main political opposition, the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), ahead of state polls and a general election scheduled for early next year. The BJP and its prime ministerial candidate, Lal Krishna Advani, have long accused the Congress Party-led government of being soft on terrorism that involved Muslims. However, the BJP has refused to call for a clampdown on Hindu groups, and last week Mr Advani even criticised the police over the way they questioned one of the alleged cell members, a woman called Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur.

The Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, phoned his rival to ask him not to politicise the issue or the investigation. "There is a strong case so let the police do their job," he told Mr Advani. While some commentators have expressed surprise about the discovery of the alleged cell, others have pointed out that there has been growing concern about the possible threat from Hindu extremists. In the summer, two members of a right-wing Hindu group were killed while putting together a bomb, and two other suspected members of the same group died in similar circumstances in 2006.

Meanwhile, senior right-wing leaders have made no secret of their wish that Hindus should form suicide squads to protect themselves against Muslim extremists. Bal Thackeray, leader of a group called the Shiv Sena, which has been responsible for communal and regional violence in Mumbai, wrote recently in the party's magazine: "The threat of Islamic terror in India is rising. It is time to counter the same with Hindu terror. Hindu suicide squads should be readied to ensure the existence of Hindu society and to protect the nation."

Observers say the fact that the police have arrested the alleged cell members amid considerable political pressure suggests the growing professionalism of its security forces. "It's the first Hindu cell and it's the first time Hindus have been shackled and taken to jail," said Professor Dipankar Gupta, a sociologist at Delhi's Jawarlahal Nehru University. "I'm quite pleased with the way the police have done their jobs."

: Terror incident in Mumbai right now (live vid feed) - 80 dead, 250 injured
: Capt. Obvious November 26, 2008, 02:24:32 PM
Terrorist have killed several people and have shut down a lot of facilities.

http://wwitv.com/portal.htm?http://wwitv.com/television/index.html?http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b1605.htm

: Re: Terror incident in Mumbai right now (live vid feed)
: Capt. Obvious November 26, 2008, 02:26:33 PM
Gunmen have opened fire at a number of sites in the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay), killing at least 16 people and injuring others, local reports say.

Police said the shootings appeared to be terrorist attacks.

Gunmen opened fire in at least seven sites, including a train station, two five-star hotels, a hospital and a restaurant popular with tourists.

There has been a wave of bombings in Indian cities in recent months which has left scores of people dead.

Most of the attacks have been blamed on Muslim militants, although police have also arrested suspected Hindu extremists.

At least two blasts, suspected to be grenade attacks, were reported alongside Wednesday's shootings.

Police said the gunmen had fired indiscriminately.
A man shows the wounds of another man injured in a gunbattle at Mumbai's Chatrapati Shivaji Terminus
There are reports of attacks at seven locations

"The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed," said AN Roy, police commissioner of Maharashtra state.

Some gunmen were still holed up in buildings that had been targeted, police said.

Sajjad Karim, an MEP for the North West of England who is in Mumbai, told the BBC he had seen a gunman opening fire in the lobby of Taj Mahal hotel.

He said he had seen people fall before fleeing to a restaurant, where the doors had been barricaded.

"All I saw was one man on foot carrying a machine gun type of weapon - which I then saw him firing from and I saw people hitting the floor, people right next to me," he said.

The other hotel targeted was the Oberoi.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7751160.stm
: Re: Terror incident in Mumbai right now (live vid feed)
: Capt. Obvious November 26, 2008, 02:28:57 PM
Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 250 injured


MUMBAI: Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinate serial explosions and indiscriminate firing
rocked
Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 250 injured
Mortal remains of a taxi after terror attack at western express highway near domestic airport in Mumbai. (PTI Photo)
eight areas across Mumbai including the crowded CST railway station, two five star hotels--Oberoi and Taj. ( Watch )

At least 80 people were dead and 250 injured in the terror attacks, hospital sources said.

Armed with AK-47 rifles and grenades, a couple of terrorists entered the passenger hall of CST and opened fire and threw grenades, Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A K Sharma said.

The terror strike which began at 10:33 PM at Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus(CST), formerly known as the Victoria Terminus(VT), claimed 10 lives in the premises of the station alone, police said.

Three persons were killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number were gunned down at Taj Hotel. The victims in the hotel were its employees.

The lobby of the Oberoi hotel was on fire and the hotel evacuated, eyewitnesses said.

Maharashtra DGP A N Roy said tonight's attack in "at least seven places" is a "terror strike."

Sharma said 30 persons were injured in the CST incident. Commandoes were rushed to the CST which wore a deserted look and train services suspended.

The NSG commandos were on standby and national disaster response force unit is being rushed to Mumbai, the Ministry of Home Affairs officials said.

Some people were injured in the firing in Oberoi hotel, and taken to a nearby hospital in police vans and ambulance. Firing was also reported in Taj hotel.

Firing was reported at Colaba, Nariman Point and near Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal, formerly Victoria Terminus and it was still continuing.

Firing was also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai, police said, adding that a blast was reported in a taxi under a flyover in suburban Vile Parle. A bomb went off in a taxi in Mazegaon dockyard road.

SRPF personnel then entered the iconic BMC building -- just opposite CST -- to take aim at the assailants, BMC commissioner Jairaj Phatak said. "We fear some of the assailants are still inside the station and we want to catch them if they come out," a police official said.

Vikhroli police station senior inspector Habib Ansari was on his way to work from his Colaba home when he saw two armed men, with sophisticated weaponry, trying to run into bylanes near the Gateway of India.

"I rushed back to Colaba and all policemen, including GRP and RPF personnel, were called up," he added.

Bhisham Mansukhani, a journalist, was attending a wedding reception at the Taj's Crystal Room. "I was inside the bar when glass shards almost hit my eye," he said. "More than 200 people were escorted inside Chambers, a business centre inside the hotel," he added.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_many_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 02:37:21 PM
ah come on guys think, a bout a month ago the U.S. SIgned a Nuclear Power deal with India. They are giving India an excuse to be aggressive against Pakistan , essentially Pakistan is surrounded by U.S. and allies.
: Re: String of "terror" attacks in India PLEASE UPDATE
: Capt. Obvious November 26, 2008, 02:39:12 PM
thread I started: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=72338.0

Live feed: http://wwitv.com/portal.htm?http://wwitv.com/television/index.html?http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b1605.htm
: Re: Terror incident in Mumbai right now (live vid feed) - 80 dead, 250 injured
: Capt. Obvious November 26, 2008, 02:43:32 PM
reporter in india just said all western citizens have been gathered in floor being held hostages. He said a hundred or hundreds
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India/Hundreds of western hostages/80 Dead
: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 02:51:13 PM
I just heard on Indian TV that the terrorists went into the hotel and asked which rooms American tourists are in. Then went up to the rooms and are now holding them hostage.    Strange.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India/Hundreds of western hostages/80 Dead
: Dig November 26, 2008, 02:55:13 PM
CNN is reporting only 2 killed and only 26 injured.

LOOKS LIKE THIS IS BEING MINIMIZED BY US PRESS!

Keep feeding the international reports.

this does not look like a planned Rockefller/Rothschild false flag but perhaps an actual population that is tired of being exploited by feudalistic interests.

FOX News...NOTHING

GE/MSNBC...NOTHING

CNN...few minutes of coverage.

PP Forum has more information than my 589 channels of SHIT!
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 03:00:22 PM
I'm hearing 55 dead and 190 injured as of now.  More are being reported.

I saw a 2 minute brief on CNN on the attack, then they cut to Obama.
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: Dok November 26, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 250 injured

MUMBAI: Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinate serial explosions and indiscriminate firing rocked eight Mortal remains of a taxi after terror attack at western express highway near domestic airport in Mumbai. (PTI Photo)
 
areas across Mumbai including the crowded CST railway station, two five star hotels--Oberoi and Taj.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_250_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 03:03:21 PM
They are confirming that the terrorists targeted American tourists and are now being used as hostages in 3 5-star hotels.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:03:47 PM
There are so many conflicting reports in US media (2 dead/5 dead/20dead/back to 5 dead/etc.).

Please post international news releases
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 03:06:18 PM

Terrorists still holed up at three places, including Oberoi and Taj hotels; encounter in progress, says DGP A N Roy
Firing reported from Hotel Marriott in Colaba
Colaba: BP Petrol Pump blown up
10 killed in Colaba attack
Taxi blown up in Vile Parle
Gun battle outside Metro cinema hall
Hotel Oberoi, Hotel Taj under siege
RAF considering commando action, may storm hotels
Mumbai police say air surveillance ready
CJ: Are you there? Send us pics, videos
Local trains suspended
Gunfire and grenades, the latest modus operandi of terrorists
Roads in Mumbai completely deserted
Terrorists still holed up at Nariman House
Crowded areas and buildings one behind another, difficult situation for rescue
Most Mumbai targets foreigners' favourite hangouts
PM briefed about the situation by Home department
Mumbai: Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinated serial explosions and indiscriminate firing were reported from at least eight locations across Mumbai.

At least 55 people are reported killed and 190 are seriously injured.

The coordinated terror strike which reportedly began at 2233 PM at Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus(CST), formerly known as the Victoria Terminus(VT), killed 10 people in the premises of the station, police say.

First Pics: Mumbai under attack

Live Streaming: CNN-IBN coverage

A petrol pump has been blown up in Colaba by armed men and at least 10 people are reported to have been killed in that strike.

Three persons are killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number have been gunned down at the five-star Taj Hotel.

The victims in the hotel were its employees.

Live updates: HOTELS UNDER SIEGE

The five-star Hotel Oberoi is also under siege and gunmen are reported to have held the occupants hostage.

Reports say 10 gunmen are holed up inside Hotel Oberoi and the Rapid Action Force is considering storming the hotels.

The shooting at the hotels was reported between 2215 hrs IST and 2230 hrs IST when bullets, apparently from automatic weapons, were fired at police and paramilitary forces outside the Taj Hotel.

The lobby of Hotel Oberoi is reportedly on fire. The RAF is considering storming the hotels.

NEXT PAGE: FIRING AT CST, COPS ON ALERT


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/mumbai-terror-hotels-hospital-bus-stands-cinema-halls-attacked/79122-3.html
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: Capt. Obvious November 26, 2008, 03:11:31 PM
IBN anchor reporter in India just said at least 55 dead
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:14:26 PM
Brit Escapes From Gunmen In India
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Mumbai-Attacks-In-India-Briton-Manages-To-Escape-From-Gunmen-In-Hotel/Article/200811415162504?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15162504_Mumbai_Attacks_In_India%3A_Briton_Manages_To_Escape_From_Gunmen_In_Hotel
Mumbai Attacks Videos

8:05pm UK, Wednesday November 26, 2008
A Briton in Mumbai has told of how he managed to escape from gunmen as the Indian city was hit by a series of suspected terror attacks.

Security forces on alert for more attacks

Alex Chamberlain was in a restaurant at a hotel when he heard gunfire.

Gunmen stormed the building and he and a group of people were ushered into the kitchen.

Chamberlain told Sky News that one of the waiters was shot in the arm.

The group of about 30-40 people was then "marched up like sheep" by a "young guy with a sub-machine gun, who was about 22-23".

The gunman then told people to stop and asked them to put their hands up. The attacker asked if any of the people were British or Americans.

Chamberlain said: "My Indian friend told me 'don't be a hero' and tell him you're Italian and that kind of stuff'."

Chamberlain said he got to about the 18th floor of the hotel and there was a gunman below them, and there were gunshots above and smoke everywhere.

 

Map of Mumbai targets


The Briton and another person managed to sneak out of a fire door "without the gunman seeing us", where they stayed for about 15 minutes.

Chamberlain said: "I phoned my girlfriend and told her I loved her and thought it would be the last time I would talk to anyone."

He then walked "slowly downstairs expecting to see somebody with a gun around the corner" but they had gone.

He then smashed a window. He said "the smoke was so thick I thought we were going to suffocate".

Chamberlain said he walked into the lobby and when he came out into the street there were about 20 police officers there "looking just as scared as any of us" and a few fire engines.

Chamberlain called it "the ugly face of Islamic fundamentalism" because of the "language and venom in which the people were asked if they were American or British".

The Briton, who works for the Indian Premier League cricket, said: "They were talking about Britons and Americans specifically".

He added: "They shot people completely unnecessary".
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:15:12 PM
British member of European parliament in Mumbai siege
http://news.trend.az/index.shtml?show=news&newsid=1356239&lang=EN
26.11.08 23:48



A British member of the European parliament was among guests under siege in the Mumbai hotel attacked by gunmen Wednesday, the Press Association (PA) reported.

Sajjad Karim, a Conservative, spoke by mobile phone from a barricaded basement room to PA's correspondent in Brussels.

"I was in the lobby of the hotel when gunmen came in and people started running. There were about 25 or 30 of us. A gunman just stood there spraying bullets around, right next to me," he reportedly said.

"I managed to turn away and I ran into the hotel kitchen and then we were shunted into a restaurant in the basement. We are now in the dark in this room and we've barricaded all the doors. It's really bad," he added.

Karim is part of a delegation of Euro-MPs visiting Mumbai ahead of the forthcoming EU-India summit, dpa reported.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:15:53 PM
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/terror-hits-mumbai-again/01/31/341526/

Terror struck the country’s financial capital late tonight as “coordinated” serial explosions and indiscriminate firing rocked eight areas across Mumbai, including the crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal (CST) railway station, two five-star hotels — Trident (formerly Oberoi) and Taj — leaving 16 people dead and over 50 injured.

Armed with AK-47 rifles and grenades, a couple of terrorists entered the passenger hall of CST, opened fire and threw grenades, Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner AK Sharma said.

The terror strike which began at 10.33 pm at CST, formerly known as the Victoria Terminus, claimed 10 lives in the premises of the station alone, police said. Three people were killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on the Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number were gunned down at Taj Hotel. The victims in the hotel were its employees.

The lobby of Trident hotel was on fire and the hotel evacuated, eyewitnesses said.

Maharashtra DGP AN Roy said tonight’s attacks happened in “at least seven places” and were a “terror strike”.

Sharma said 30 people were injured in the CST incident. Commandos were rushed to the CST, which wore a deserted look and train services suspended.

Some people were injured in the firing at Trident hotel, and taken to a nearby hospital in police vans and ambulance. Firing was also reported in Taj hotel.

Firing was reported at Colaba, Nariman Point and near Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal and it was on till the filing of this report.

Firing was also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai, police said, adding that a blast was reported in a taxi under a flyover in suburban Vile Parle. A bomb went off in a taxi in Mazegaon dockyard road.

According to Roy: “The suspected terrorists struck in a number of places. Terrorists have opened indiscriminate firing with automatic weapons.” In some places they lobbed even grenades. “In two hotels, some of them are still holed up....In Trident hotel, at least two terrorists are still holed up.”

Roy said that terrorists had opened fire at places and disappeared. “Some people are injured and the casualty figure is yet to be ascertained...Our people have reached the spot and are responding to the situation," he added.

In the national capital, the Union home ministry said it was keeping a close watch on the situation and would provide all necessary assistance to the state government.
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: Optimus November 26, 2008, 03:16:28 PM
Direct live TV feeds from India in English.

Windows media player feed for IBN Live
mms://a779.l2584224778.c25842.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/779/25842/v0001/reflector:24778

or view the web player
http://www.eyedig.us/index.php?tid=1085
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:16:51 PM
Series of terrorist attacks rock Indian city of Mumbai, at least 25 killed
http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=786781&SMap=1
11/26/2008 2:56 PM ET


(RTTNews) -  At least 25 people have been killed and many others injured in a series of terrorist attacks in different parts of the Western Indian city of Mumbai on Wednesday night.

Attacks on seven locations, including three luxury hotels and near the crowded Chatrapati Shivaji Terminal (CST), have been reported.

A N Roy, Deputy Police Commissioner of the city, said Oberoi hotel lobby is on fire after the attack and encounter is taking place with terrorists inside the hotel.

Blasts were reported in Napean Sea road area of south Mumbai and in Ville Parle. Terrorists hurled grenades in Santa Cruz, the police said.

by RTT Staff Writer

For comments and feedback: contact editorial@rttnews.com
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: Dok November 26, 2008, 03:19:15 PM
Times of India

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_250_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
THIS IS SERIOUS!



TERROR NON-STOP: 55 killed in Mumbai attacks
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/terrorists-take-over-mumbai-shoot-bomb-at-will/79122-3.html

CNN-IBN

Published on Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 22:39, Updated on Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:44 in Nation section


-Anti-Terrorism Squad Chief Hemant Karkare killed

-One Additional Commissioner of Police, two more cops killed

-Terrorists still holed up at three places, including Oberoi and Taj hotels; encounter in progress, says DGP A N Roy

-Seven foreigners among 15 taken hostage by two gunmen in Taj Hotel

-Firing reported from Hotel Marriott in Colaba

-Colaba: BP Petrol Pump blown up

-10 killed in Colaba attack

-Taxi blown up in Vile Parle

-Gun battle outside Metro cinema hall

-RAF considering commando action, may storm hotels

-Mumbai police say air surveillance ready

-Local trains suspended

-Gunfire and grenades, the latest modus operandi of terrorists

-Roads in Mumbai completely deserted

-Terrorists still holed up at Nariman House

-Crowded areas and buildings one behind another, difficult situation for rescue

-Most Mumbai targets foreigners' favourite hangouts

-PM briefed about the situation by Home department


Mumbai: Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinated serial explosions and indiscriminate firing were reported from at least eight locations across Mumbai. At least 55 people are reported killed and 190 are seriously injured. The coordinated terror strike which reportedly began at 2233 PM at Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus(CST), formerly known as the Victoria Terminus(VT), killed 10 people in the premises of the station, police say.


First Pics: Mumbai under attack

Live Streaming: CNN-IBN coverage

-A petrol pump has been blown up in Colaba by armed men and at least 10 people are reported to have been killed in that strike.

-Three persons are killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number have been gunned down at the five-star Taj Hotel.

-The victims in the hotel were its employees.


Live updates: HOTELS UNDER SIEGE

-The five-star Hotel Oberoi is also under siege and gunmen are reported to have held the occupants hostage.

-Reports say 10 gunmen are holed up inside Hotel Oberoi and the Rapid Action Force is considering storming the hotels.

-The shooting at the hotels was reported between 2215 hrs IST and 2230 hrs IST when bullets, apparently from automatic weapons, were fired at police and paramilitary forces outside the Taj Hotel.

-The lobby of Hotel Oberoi is reportedly on fire. The RAF is considering storming the hotels.


FIRING AT CST, COPS ON ALERT

The next, near simultaneous shooting took place near the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus police station in which six people were injured. Police have cordoned off the CST Railway Terminus, a crowded place at this time of the evening, and have stopped entry. Press Trust of India reports two persons armed with automatic weapons and hand grenades are holed up inside the CST station.

PTI also reports three people, employees of Taj Hotel in South Mumbai, were killed after being fired upon by terrorists and an equal number of people died in a bomb blast in a taxi at Dockyard Road.

The Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, headquarters of the Central Railway, is a world heritage building and remains crowded almost throughout the day.

Local train services to and from CST have been suspended. A police official said he saw two people, armed with automatic weapons at CST.

"They opened indiscriminate fire and fled inside. They are reported to be holed up between platform seven and eight," he said.

Two more blasts have been reported from Majhgaon and BPT Colony.

According to the Maharashtra Director General of Police A N Roy "the suspected terrorists struck in a number of places. Terrorists have opened indiscriminate firing with automatic weapons."


In some places they have lobbed even grenades. "In two hotels, some of the them are still holed-up....In Oberoi hotel, at least two terrorists are holed up inside."


Roy said that terrorists had opened fire at places and disappeared. "Some people are injured and the casualty figure is yet to be ascertained...our people have reached to the spot and were responding to the situation."


In the national capital, the Union Home Ministry said it was keeping a close watch on the situation and would provide all necessary assistance to the state government.


There were reports of four suspected terrorists holed up at Nariman House near CST.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:22:56 PM
At least 80 people killed in Mumbai attacks
http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINSP19121120081126
Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:27am IST


NEW DELHI, Nov 26 (Reuters) - At least 80 people have been killed in a series of attacks in Mumbai, police said.

"We have reports of 80 people dead and at least 250 injured. Many have serious injuries and the toll will go up," P.D Ghadge, a police officer in the main control room in Mumbai, told Reuters. (alistair.scrutton@thomsonreuters.com; +91-11-41781015; Reuters Messaging: alistair.scrutton.reuters.net@reuters.com))
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:23:55 PM
Encounters on at Taj, Trident
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074206&ch=11/27/2008%201:27:00%20AM
NDTV Correspondent
Wednesday, November 26, 2008, (Mumbai)


Over 60 people have been killed and about 200 injured in many terrorist attacks in Mumbai on Wednesday night.

Two five-star hotels - Trident and Taj - are under siege and gunmen are reported to have held the occupants hostage. An ATS team has arrived at the Taj, where fresh blasts have been reported.

There are reports of firing at JW Marriott hotel also.

"Encounter is on between police and terrorists at Taj and Trident. Our people have surrounded them and the Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) team has arrived at the Taj hotel," A N Roy, Deputy Police Commissioner.

Many foreigners are reported to be held hostage by the terrorists.

"Gunmen took 15 hostages and half of them foreigners," said an eye-witness at Taj hotel.

"Gunmen wanted anyone with British or American passport," said another eye-witness.

Encounter cops Vijay Salaskar and Ashok Kanthe have been killed in the operation. Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare has also been injured.

There are also reports of low intensity blast in Ville Parle and grenade attack in Santa Cruz. Two blasts reported in Napean Sea road area of south Mumbai.

Police sources are investigating a boat which anchored off Mumbai harbour.

It all started with incidents of firing in Colaba and near CST station. One policeman was injured in the firing.

PTI adds Earlier, police cordoned off the CST and none was allowed to enter it.

Two persons armed with automatic weapons and hand grenades were reportedly holding up inside CST stations.

Hundreds of onlookers gathered outside the station. The station and premises has been evacuated.

One policeman was injured in the firing at Colaba and a number of people were wounded at CST where two armed men opened indiscriminate area.

Colaba is one of the most congested and high-profile areas of Mumbai and CST the busiest railway station.
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: Dok November 26, 2008, 03:24:29 PM
Seven foreigners among 15 taken hostage at Mumbai's Taj

MUMBAI: Two terrorists carrying guns tonight took 15 people, half of them foreigners, hostage on the roof of the luxury Taj Hotel, one of the  
hostages who managed to escape said.

Two youths in their 20s came to the restaurant of the hotel and took 15 people to the roof of the hotel, Rakesh Patel, a businessman from London who lives in Hong Kong, told a TV channel giving the first eyewitness account of what happened in the five-star hotel in South Mumbai.

"The two young boys came to the restaurant and took us upstairs. We were taken to the 18th floor from where we escaped", he said.

Replying to a question, Patel said the terrorists wanted to know if any one of the hostages was carrying American and British passports.

They clearly wanted foreigners, he added.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/7_foreigners_among_15_taken_hostage_at_Mumbais_Taj/articleshow/3761833.cms
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:24:34 PM
Attacks against Westerners 'kill 80'
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24714144-12335,00.html
November 27, 2008


UP to 80 people are dead after a series of attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai.

Reports of the death toll vary, but one news agency says 80 people have died while Indian television stations report the toll to be at least 40.

They have reported hostages have been taken at hotels used by Westerners.

Australian tourists were among those who had to flee after a series of bomb attacks and shootings in the city, the Herald-Sun reported.

Gunmen have targeted two luxury hotels, a railway station and restaurant in the attacks and a third hotel has been bombed.

Australian tourist Isaac Zalhe said the city was in chaos.

"There were people driving around in a cop car shooting people," he said.
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: Optimus November 26, 2008, 03:24:46 PM
IBN reporting 60 dead 200 injured
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:26:29 PM
MEP caught up in stand-off
http://www.teletext.co.uk/news/national/59444ae77f8f766cff637bf2a1330e52/MEP+caught+up+in+stand-off.aspx

A British Euro-MP is among guests who have had to flee fire in their Mumbai hotel during an attack by gunmen.

North West MEP Sajjad Karim, speaking from a basement room at Taj Mahal Palace, said he and others had fled and had no idea why the hotel was targeted.

Alex Chamberlain, who is in the city on business, said gunmen also burst into the Oberoi hotel and believes they were looking for British and US visitors.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:27:38 PM
PM condemns terror attacks in Mumbai
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1209687
PTI
Thursday, November 27, 2008  01:38 IST               



NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Wednesday night condemned the terror attacks in Mumbai and assured all help to Maharashtra in meeting the situation.

The Prime Minister's Office said Singh was in touch with Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh and was monitoring the situation.

Deshmukh also said that he was in touch with the central government which had assured all help to meet the "very serious" situation.

He said he had talked to Home Minister Shivraj Patil, who assured that the Centre would provide all the assistance required by Maharashtra.

The Centre has immediately decided to dispatch National Security Guard commandos to supplement the efforts being made by local police and CRPF, Deshmukh said.

"We are trying to control the situation," he said.
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: Pheonix Renewed November 26, 2008, 03:29:04 PM
Okay, call me crazy. I just wonder if this is true or not, as far as "terrorists."

See, according to another article I read recently, 1,000 or so farmers commit suicide each MONTH there, thanks to Monsanto's GM crops ruining their livelihoods.

If these are angry farmers, finally deciding to strike back at the American company that has destroyed countless lives there... I can't really blame them.

Maybe they ARE hindus. But maybe they are starving and angry people, fighting for the lives and freedoms of their people- their children- their parents- their wives or husbands... can we be sure? With so many starving and poor people there, perhaps it's time for a civil war.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:29:35 PM
MUMBAI TERROR CLAIMS 55
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=MUMBAI+TERROR+CLAIMS+55&artid=KU8ulrRUh7w=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SEO=terror,+south+mumbai&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=

People stand around a damaged vehicle at the site of an explosion in Mumbai. (Photo: AP)
Agencies
First Published : 26 Nov 2008 11:10:54 PM IST
Last Updated : 27 Nov 2008 01:54:16 AM IST

MUMBAI: A series of as many as 9 attacks are reported to have claimed 55 lives, with a further 200 injured, according to TV reports.

TV channels are carrying live coverage of what is reported to be at least 5 ongoing gunbattles between the terrorists and security forces. The attacks seem to be concentrated in South Mumbai.

The reports say that the police were exchanging fire with the terrorists holed up in the Taj and Oberoi luxury hotels. There are other ongoing encounters at the Chhatrapati Sivagi Terminus (Victoria Terminus), Cama Hospital and Metro Cinema.

Reports also say that at least 20 people including foreigners are held hostage on the roofs of the Taj and Oberoi hotels.

The police say that the terrorists have stolen cars, which are suspected to be laden with explosives and the perpetrators are driving around the city, taking random potshots at citizens.

Police is said to have intercepted one car and in an exchange of fire, two of the terrorists were blown up along with the car.

Five policemen are said to have been killed and many police personnel have been injured.

Additional Commissioner of Police Kamte is said to have been killed. Hemant Karkare, head of the Anti Terrorist Squad, has also been killed.

The terrorists are said to have their hideout in Nariman Towers and security personnel are in the process of taking action.

It is also said that the terrorists have entered the premises of the JJ School of Arts.

Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh has cut short a visit to Kerala and is on his way back.

The state government has asked for help from the armed forces and the Army is to take out a flag march in the city.

The centre is said to be sending a force of 200 NSG commandos.

Unconfirmed reports claim the terrorists to be 'Fidayeen'.

Earlier, IANS reports:

The top floor of the world-famous Hotel Taj Intercontinental in Mumbai caught fire after a bomb explosion as terroists struck at seven locations in the metropolis late Wednesday night.

The 22-storey, five-star hotel by the Arabian Sea was one of the targets of the terrorist attack. An explosion on the top floor soon engulfed the top floor of the hotel in fire.

Fire tenders were rushed to the spot, officials said.

Earlier in the night, terrorists opened fire at police and paramilitary forces outside the Taj Hotel between 10.15 p.m. and 10.30 p.m., police officials said.

The officials, who refused to speak on record, said the terrorists fired indiscrimantely near the five-star hotel where around 2,000 guests and staff were stranded.

The body of a foreign woman guest was recovered from the Taj Hotel and two terrorists were holed up inside the building, a police official said.

At least 90 percent portion of the building was plunged into darkness as authorities cut off power in a precautionary measure.

Suspected terrorists hijacked a police jeep near Metro Cinema here and fired at two policemen who were in the vehicle, an eyewitness said.

Metro Cinema was one of the targets of seven "coordinated terrorist attacks" in Mumbai Wednesday night, in which at least 17 people were killed and over 50 were reported injured.

The police said gunbattle between the terrorists and the police were on in at least three places, including the Taj and Trident hotels.

Two terrorists attacked the police vehicle near the Metro Cinema and dragged two policemen from it after firing at them, the eyewitness told IANS.

The policemen were seriously injured and rushed to a hospital, according to the witness.

Metro Cinema in south Mumbai is barely one-and-half km from the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (previously known as Victoria Terminus), which also came under the terrorist attack.

A Briton who escaped the terrorist attack at the five-star Oberoi Hotel in Mumbai Wednesday night said the attackers specifically asked for American and British tourists.

Alex Chamberlain, who is working in Mumbai, said the terrorists allowed him to leave along with other diners at the besieged Kandahar restaurant in the Oberoi, now known as the Hotel Trident, after he kept his nationality a secret.

He told Sky TV that the terrorists shot a waitress in the arm before allowing diners to take the stairs down to the lobby.

Chamberlain said the smoke - from either a hand-grenade or a smoke bomb - was so thick that those making their way down from “the 18th floor or wherever we were” feared they would choke to death.

He said once he was on the ground floor he had to break a glass window in order to let some air in before making his way out.

“We're preparing for a very long night,” he added.
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: Optimus November 26, 2008, 03:29:44 PM
Gunmen attack targets in Indian city

Story Highlights
Gunmen strike at series of targets popular with tourists and business people
Seventy-eight reported killed, almost 200 injured
Ongoing gunbattles reported at two hotels

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/india.attacks/index.html
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:32:54 PM
One of the Queen's slaves speaks...(after continuing the policies of famine and poverty in India for over 100 years, who is condemning whom?)


Britain condemns Mumbai attacks
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/392502/1/.html
Posted: 27 November 2008 0419 hrs



LONDON: British Foreign Secretary David Miliband on Wednesday "unreservedly" condemned the attacks in India's financial capital Mumbai that killed nearly 60 people.

"Today's attacks in Mumbai which have claimed many innocent victims remind us, yet again, of the threat we face from violent extremists," he said.

"I condemn these attacks unreservedly.

"Our thoughts are with the families and friends of those killed and injured. The UK and India will continue their joint efforts to counter the actions of terrorists."

A series of shootings and blasts across Mumbai late Wednesday left nearly 60 people dead, hospital officials told AFP.

The Press Trust of India said that as many as 200 people had been injured in the attacks, which saw heavily armed men with automatic weapons and grenades target luxury hotels in the south of the city and the main railway station. - AFP/de
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: Dok November 26, 2008, 03:33:31 PM
India/Bombay/Mumbai Under Attack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9stfkgFWfc

MOV00251.MP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HzEhw85jK4
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:33:38 PM
Massacre in India
http://reason.com/blog/show/130294.html
Michael C. Moynihan | November 26, 2008, 3:19pm

Not many details at the moment, but we do know that gunmen opened fire at various sites in Bombay in what appears to be a coordinated terrorist attack. According to BBC News, unconfirmed reports say that 80 are dead, 250 injured, and an unknown number are being held hostage in a "luxury hotel."

On Wednesday, gunmen opened fire in at least seven sites, including a train station, two five-star hotels, a hospital and a restaurant popular with tourists.

At least two blasts, suspected to be grenade attacks, were reported alongside the shootings.

Police said the gunmen had fired indiscriminately.

At least 10 people were killed at the Chhatrapati Shivaji railway station, they said.
A man shows the wounds of another man injured in a gunbattle at Mumbai's Chatrapati Shivaji Terminus.

"The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed," said AN Roy, police commissioner of Maharashtra state.

The Times (UK) reports that the terrorists were targeting foreigners.
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: Brocke November 26, 2008, 03:34:23 PM
60 killed, 200 injured in attacks at tourist hotspots in Mumbai

27/11/2008 6:53:00 AM.  | AFP

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Injured man lies on baggage trolley in Mumbai | AAP

About 60 bodies and more than 200 injured people have been brought to a hospital in Mumbai after a series of shootings and blasts across India's financial capital, the Press Trust of India says.

Gunmen armed with powerful assault rifles and grenades launched the attacks late on Wednesday, with five-star hotels among the targets, police said.

Maharashtra state police chief AN Roy told the NDTV channel that "unknown terrorists" had opened fire in "at least seven to eight places" across the city.

The Press Trust of India (PTI) quoted a senior police officer as saying that 10 people were killed and more than 30 people injured in one attack on Mumbai's main Chhatrapati Shivaji railway station.

Three staff were shot dead in a separate shooting incident at the luxury Taj Mahal hotel in nearby Colaba district, while three more died in what police called a "bomb blast" in a taxi in the southeast of the city.

Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner AK Sharma was quoted as saying that several men armed with AK-47 rifles had stormed into the passenger hall of the railway station shortly after 10.30pm (0400 AEDT) and opened fire and thrown grenades.

Firing was also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai, while the lobby of another five-star hotel, the Trident, formerly the Oberoi, was on fire, witnesses said.

There was another shooting incident outside the Leopold Restaurant, police said. The popular haunt in Colaba is a magnet for foreign tourists in part due to its role in the best-selling book Shantaram by Australian author Gregory David Roberts.

One television report put the death toll as high as 25. There was no immediate claim of responsibility.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh condemned the attacks and said the Maharashtra state government would get all the assistance required.

"Some of these terrorists are still holed up inside the Taj hotel," Roy said.

The Taj, next to the British colonial-era Gateway of India monument, is one of the world's leading hotels and regularly attracts VIP visitors.

The head of the Madrid regional government, Esperanza Aguirre, was staying there at the time but she and her delegation escaped unhurt, a government spokesman in Madrid told AFP.

Mumbai had been the start of a four-day official visit to India.

The BBC News website said that British member of the European Parliament, Sajjad Karim, was also in the hotel at the time and saw a gunman open fire in the lobby.

"All I saw was one man on foot carrying a machine gun-type of weapon - which I then saw him firing from and I saw people hitting the floor, people right next to me," he was quoted as saying.

One British guest told local Indian television that he had been among a dozen people herded together by two heavily armed men and taken up to the hotel's upper floors.

"They were very young, like boys really, wearing jeans and T-shirts," the guest said.

"They said they wanted anyone with British and American passports and then they took us up the stairs. I think they wanted to take us to the roof," he said, adding that he and another hostage had managed to escape when they reached the 18th floor.

As he was speaking, there was a loud explosion from the roof of the hotel.

India has witnessed a series of coordinated attacks in recent months.

A little-known Islamic group, the Islamic Security Force-Indian Mujahedeen, claimed responsibility for serial blasts last month in India's north-east state of Assam that claimed nearly 80 lives.

A total of 12 explosions shook the insurgency-hit northeastern state, six of them ripping through crowded areas in the main city of Guwahati.

Six weeks earlier, the capital New Delhi had been hit by a series of bombs in crowded markets that left more than 20 dead. Those blasts were claimed by a group calling itself the Indian Mujahedeen.

http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/11/27/Gunmen_target_tourists_hotspots_in_Mumbai_16_killed
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:35:20 PM
Five star hotels in the capital on high alert
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1209690
PTI
Thursday, November 27, 2008  01:57 IST               



NEW DELHI: The five star hotels in the national capital turned into mini-fortresses with dozens of additional private security guards swinging into action checking on vehicles and frisking the patrons following Wednesday night's terror attacks on the posh hotels in Mumbai.

"Our security was always on high alert. We had put into place a new security system after the serial blasts in Delhi. It is a tragic time that we are living in. The security of our patrons are our top most priority," an executive of the Park Hotel located in Central Delhi said.

The scene outside another two of the many high-end hotels in the capital was no different with entry and exit of the Taj Palace and the Maurya Sheraton were put under tight security.

Barricades were placed outside the hotels with private security guards keeping a close eye on the visitors.

Cars were not allowed to stop in front of the hotel as guards could be seen asking the drivers to park ahead.

"Security has been beefed up at our hotels in Delhi but our concern remains Mumbai. Things are just fine here," an executive with the Taj Group of hotels said.

Incidentally, the Group's hotel in Mumbai was- attacked by terrorists with heavy gunfire being heard coming from inside
the hotel even as blood soaked guests were seen being brought out into the waiting ambulances.

The Delhi police has stepped up the security in the national capital in the wake of terror attacks in Mumbai.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:36:14 PM
2 terrorists killed, 2 arrested in Mumbai
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1209691
IANS
Thursday, November 27, 2008  02:00 IST               


MUMBAI: Two suspected terrorists were killed and two were arrested hours after terror attacks in Mumbai that left at least 17 dead and over 50 injured, police and eyewitnesses said.

Two terrorists were killed in a shootout near Chowpati beach, according to the witnesses.

Two terrorists were arrested in Tardeo, the police said.

Suspected terrorists struck in at least seven places, including a busy railway teminus and two five-star hotels, in this commercial capital of India on Wednesday night.

Mumbai Police Commissioner Hasan Ghafoor said the attacks were suspected to be "coordinated terrorist acts", and added that automatic weapons like AK-47 and AK-56, semi-automatic rifles an grenades were apparently used. Most of the injured were policemen.
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 03:37:02 PM
Americans will probably be killed and AL Queda Blamed thus initiating a bigger offensive on Pakistan, which is where they will say the Militants originated. It's starting already and Obama hasn't taken office, which confirms my suspicions that Zbzreznski is running the Geo Political show at the moment
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: Optimus November 26, 2008, 03:37:32 PM
CNN reporting gun fire in another hotel north of city!
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 03:38:54 PM
Seven foreigners among 15 taken hostage at Mumbai's Taj

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/7_foreigners_among_15_taken_hostage_at_Mumbais_Taj/articleshow/3761833.cms
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:40:48 PM
If the US Press does not report on something (like this) they usually do not plan it.

However, this will be used by brzezenskif**ker for opportunistic purposes.

India and Pakistan have nukes.

US has always tried to target Pakistan as the main enemy and India as a peaceful defender of freedom.  This string of attacks by what Reagan would call "freedom fighters" does not seem to be in the "India Peaceful" playbook.

Thus the US media seems to be minimizing this or trying to call it all random terrorism when it seems to be a coordinated effort by hundreds of pissed off people who are tired of feudalistic policies.
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 03:41:25 PM
One of the Queen's slaves speaks...(after continuing the policies of famine and poverty in India for over 100 years, who is condemning whom?)


Britain condemns Mumbai attacks
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/392502/1/.html
Posted: 27 November 2008 0419 hrs



LONDON: British Foreign Secretary David Miliband on Wednesday "unreservedly" condemned the attacks in India's financial capital Mumbai that killed nearly 60 people.


If David Millband is condemning the attack so fast it means Britain was involved. He is a genocidal maniac - he said that even though Georgia murdered South. Ossetian civilians the murders werer justified because they burned down a few of their own houses.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 03:42:47 PM
deccan mujahideen?
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 03:44:13 PM
Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 300 injured

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_300_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:46:32 PM
If David Millband is condemning the attack so fast it means Britain was involved. He is a genocidal maniac - he said that even though Georgia murdered South. Ossetian civilians the murders werer justified because they burned down a few of their own houses.

One of the earlier stories says that the RAF is on standby, they probably cannot wait to drop in, slaughter hundreds and then say they were all "terrorists".

Millband looks like they are trying to push for a green light on black ops.

This is not Georgia, they can get away with it in India with limited risk.

This could get real ugly quick.
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: skyfind November 26, 2008, 03:46:53 PM
remember 911, the media always saying "TERRORIST" "TERROR ATTACK", etc.... Ask who gave this "terrorists" in Mumbai all the weapons, granades, etc..., and from where came all the military training to make all this attacks

PD-edit:
CNN (spanish) is linking this attack to Osama bin laden and Pakistan(saying osama is there/coming from there), because the way it was made this "terrorist attack", attacking a financial sector, like in 1993

edit2; now linking to alqaeda and saying how alqaeda always attacks this places, "now they are attacking mumbai", the reporter in CNN says

edit3: now saying the alqaeda headquarter is in pakistan, and linking pakistan to this attacks. "They were in Afnganistan, but when the USA went there they cross the border and now they are inf Pakistan", CNN reporter says.


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: JTCoyoté November 26, 2008, 03:49:04 PM
Obama will now be clear to justify nuking Pakistan... How convenient...

--Oldyoti

“We confide in our strength, without boasting of it;
 we respect that of others, without fearing it."
~Thomas Jefferson 1793
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:49:49 PM
This looks like it is either the work of Tamil Tigers or of NWO false flag to justify "Western Protection" of India:


ATF chief, encounter specialist killed
http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1709226
Thursday, November 27, 2008


Mumbai: Three top police officials, including Mumbai Police Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) chief Hemant Karkare, were among the nine police officers killed as security forces took on terrorists in Mumbai in the early hours of Thursday, authorities said.


Additional Police Commissioner Ashok Kamte, Mumbai Police 'encounter specialist' Vijay Salaskar were also killed in separate gun battles following a series of attacks in India's financial capital, the officials said.

Karkare was heading investigations into several recent cases of terrorist attacks here. There were six other police officials among the dozens killed in the coordinated terror attacks late Wednesday night.

Indo-Asian News Service
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:53:24 PM
Obama will now be clear to justify nuking Pakistan... How convenient...

--Oldyoti

“We confide in our strength, without boasting of it;
 we respect that of others, without fearing it."
~Thomas Jefferson 1793


Looks like the NWO/CFR all got their spin stories aligned because now they are finally reporting the extent of the major attacks on FOX.

You are right...

Queue Cards on MSM...

"TERRORIST

TERRORIST

TERRORIST

repeat until you have no more voice"

Do not forget Biden's warning.

Also, if this was not coordinated by NWO they would need to minimize it to keep us asleep while they plan another US false flag before the "changing of the puppets."
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 03:53:41 PM
They are showing a picture of one of the terrorists.  He looks Indian, not Arab.
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: nofakenews November 26, 2008, 03:54:10 PM
Notice how they say 7 coordinated attacks the number 7 nwo again
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: Optimus November 26, 2008, 03:54:35 PM
CNN already reporting the State Department condemns attacks.
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 03:56:52 PM
Just as i thought (ATF) American Killed, This means a massive SURGE in military presense in that area leading to a large insurgency from Pakistan, funded by the same Europeans that fund our Politicians
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: Capt. Obvious November 26, 2008, 03:58:33 PM
they are now showing a loop of a POLICE van driving by firing indiscriminately in a crowd

anchor making the point repeatedly that it is a police van
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 03:58:58 PM
They just showed a police van drive by and shot into a crowd.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 03:59:14 PM
U.S. slams Mumbai attacks, no known U.S. casualties
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-36720320081126
Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:10am IST


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Wednesday strongly condemned a series of attacks apparently aimed at tourists in the Indian financial capital Mumbai and said the State Department was not aware of any U.S. casualties.

"The United States strongly condemns the terrorist attacks that have taken place in Mumbai, India. We are monitoring the situation very closely and stand ready to support the Indian authorities as they deal with this horrific set of attacks," said State Department spokesman Robert Wood.

He said at this point, the State Department was not aware of any U.S. casualties in the attacks, in which scores of people were killed and hundreds wounded.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Way to go Mr. Robert Wood, now what about the one million Iraqi citizens that have been murdered by your state department?
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: admin November 26, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
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Mumbai Attacks To Be Linked To Obama Target Pakistan?

Coordinated attacks across Mumbai, India’s financial capital, which have killed up to a hundred people and injured hundreds more, are likely to be blamed on a terrorist organization linked to the Pakistani ISI, providing further justification for controversial U.S. bombings inside Pakistani territory and heightened rhetoric against Pakistan on behalf of President elect Barack Obama.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/mumbai-attacks-to-be-linked-to-obama-target-pakistan.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/mumbai-attacks-to-be-linked-to-obama-target-pakistan.html)
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:00:37 PM
Fate of two MEPs unknown after Bombay attacks
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5240689.ece
David Charter in Brussels [They are reporting from fricking Brussels?]


The fate of at least two MEPs including a British Conservative member was unknown last night after they fled the gunmen who burst into the Taj Mahal Hotel and took refuge in different parts of the building.

Sajjad Karim, 38, the Conservative MEP for the North West, spoke to Sky News of his ordeal and attempts to hide from the assassins in the basement of the hotel until his mobile phone battery ran out at around 7pm UK time.

Erika Mann, 57, a German Socialist MEP, was last heard of hiding in the hotel kitchens from where she told a concerned colleague who called her on her mobile: “It is too dangerous to talk.” Speaking by mobile phone from a barricaded basement room at around 6pm UK time, Mr Karim said that he and others had fled from machine-gun fire and had no idea why the hotel was targeted.

“I was in the lobby of the hotel when gunmen came in and people started running. There were about 25 or 30 of us,” he said.
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“Some of us split one way and some another. A gunman just stood there spraying bullets around, right next to me. I managed to turn away and I ran into the hotel kitchen and then we were shunted into a restaurant in the basement. We are now in the dark in this room and we have barricaded all the doors. It’s really bad.” He added that as he ran from the lobby, he saw people falling but did not know the extent of any casualties. He said that it seemed to be a random attack.

Mr Karim and Ms Mann were on a delegation of European parliamentarians from the trade committee staying in the Mumbai hotel for meetings ahead of an EU/India summit.

Before his phone cut out, Mr Karim told Sky News: “There was a lot of commotion in the main lobby, and then another gunman came right in front of us and started shooting. I saw a number of people go down, but I was fortunate enough to get away.” Syed Kamall, a Conservative MEP for London and the only other British member of the group, told The Times that he feared for the safety of his colleagues after losing contact during the chaotic events of the evening.

“It is still going on and they are still out there,” said Mr Kamall, speaking at 7.30pm UK time from a restaurant a short distance from the Taj. He left the hotel with a several fellow MEPs shortly before the shooting started.

“We left the hotel just before they got there, by pure luck,” he said.

“As I arrived at the restaurant, I got a phone call from Sajjad who said ’Are you OK?’ I asked why and he said ’Because a gunman just rushed past me into the hotel, looked at me and shot someone else.’ “We have heard that at least three staff from the hotel were shot dead. One of our party was shot and is now in hospital. He is a young guy, a Hungarian assistant to one of the committee. He was out for a drink in the bar with another guy and they ran but got sprayed with bullets. We don’t know exactly how he is.” Mr Kamall said that Mr Karim was at that moment still barricaded in the basement of the hotel and was last in contact at around 7pm UK time. “In his last text to me he said ’I am panicky but I am OK’,” he said.

While he was with several members of the MEP group, Mr Kamall, 41, added that he was unsure of the whereabouts of a third MEP, a Polish parliamentarian called Jan Masiel, 45, Mr Masiel was understood to have been sleeping in his room when the attack was launched.
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 04:01:58 PM
bomb just went off in hotel.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 04:02:38 PM
Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 900 injured

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_900_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms


The attacks have taken a tragic toll on the city's top police brass: The high-profile chief of the anti-terror squad Hemant Karkare was killed; Mumbai's additional commissioner of police (east) Ashok Kamte was gunned down outside the Metro; and celebrated encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar was also killed
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: Brocke November 26, 2008, 04:03:31 PM
Images from AP images

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Image - AP0811270156
Firefighters inspect the site of an explosion in Mumbai, India, Wednesday, Nov. 26, 2008. Gunmen targeted luxury hotels, a popular tourist attraction and a crowded train station in at least seven attacks in India's financial capital Wednesday, wounding 25 people, police and witnesses said. A.N Roy police commissioner of Maharashtra state, of which Mumbai is the capital, said several people had been wounded in the attacks and police were battling the gunmen. "The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed," said Roy. Gunmen opened fire on two of the city's best known Luxury hotels, the Taj Mahal and the Oberoi. They also attacked the crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus station in southern Mumbai and Leopold's restaurant, a Mumbai landmark. It was not immediately clear what the motive was for the attacks. (AP Photo)

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** EDS NOTE GRAPHIC CONTENT ** Luggage of passengers lie scattered on a blood splattered platform at the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station in Mumbai, India, Wednesday, Nov. 26, 2008. Police say several people have been wounded in a series of attacks by terrorist gunmen at seven sites in Mumbai, including two luxury hotels. A.N. Roy, a senior police officer, says police were battling the gunmen. (AP Photo)

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People seek cover at the front of a hotel in Mumbai, India in this image made from television, Wednesday, Nov. 26, 2008. Gunmen targeted luxury hotels, a popular tourist attraction and a crowded train station in at least seven attacks in India's financial capital Wednesday, wounding 25 people, police and witnesses said. A.N Roy police commissioner of Maharashtra state, of which Mumbai is the capital, said several people had been wounded in the attacks and police were battling the gunmen. "The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed," said Roy. Gunmen opened fire on two of the city's best known Luxury hotels, the Taj Mahal and the Oberoi. They also attacked the crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus station in southern Mumbai and Leopold's restaurant, a Mumbai landmark. It was not immediately clear what the motive was for the attacks. (AP Photo/STAR NEWS) ** INDIA OUT TV OUT **
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:03:58 PM
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Mumbai Attacks To Be Linked To Obama Target Pakistan?

Coordinated attacks across Mumbai, India’s financial capital, which have killed up to a hundred people and injured hundreds more, are likely to be blamed on a terrorist organization linked to the Pakistani ISI, providing further justification for controversial U.S. bombings inside Pakistani territory and heightened rhetoric against Pakistan on behalf of President elect Barack Obama.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/mumbai-attacks-to-be-linked-to-obama-target-pakistan.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/mumbai-attacks-to-be-linked-to-obama-target-pakistan.html)


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They got caught with their pants down and now they have no choice but to spin the story and blame Pakistan!

You cut off the spin doctors before they even had a chance to fully formulate the coordinated media terrorist attack on all of us using Brzezinki propaganda!
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: Biggs November 26, 2008, 04:07:43 PM
attacks at

Taj Palace Hotel
Oberoi Hotel
Ramada Inn Hotel
Trident Hotel

hostages at at least 2 of these, but perhaps more, certainly some western hostages

attacks at
Leopold restaurant (big tourist venue)
Victoria Train station
a police station (3 senior officers killed)
a major Hospital
a car bomb went off somewhere

some other shooting events, outside State Parliament, and some random places, plus a police car hijacked, a boat full of explsives seized

80 dead, 250 wounded so far, many critically, toll expected to rise both amongst the wounded and new casualties so far uncounted

clearly very serious

clearl.y will be used to ramp up pressure on Pakistan and to take actions across the Afghan/Pakistan border thus pushing Pakistan ever nearer to civil war

at one or more hotels gunmen singled out people with US or Uk passports
 
fire spreading through 22 story Taj Hotel
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: Suriel November 26, 2008, 04:09:18 PM
Fate of two MEPs unknown after Bombay attacks
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5240689.ece
David Charter in Brussels [They are reporting from fricking Brussels?]


The fate of at least two MEPs including a British Conservative member was unknown last night after they fled the gunmen who burst into the Taj Mahal Hotel and took refuge in different parts of the building.
...

If anything hapens to these mentioned I fear the worst for this region.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:09:31 PM
remember 911, the media always saying "TERRORIST" "TERROR ATTACK", etc.... Ask who gave this "terrorists" in Mumbai all the weapons, granades, etc..., and from where came all the military training to make all this attacks

PD-edit:
CNN (spanish) is linking this attack to Osama bin laden and Pakistan(saying osama is there/coming from there), because the way it was made this "terrorist attack", attacking a financial sector, like in 1993

edit2; now linking to alqaeda and saying how alqaeda always attacks this places, "now they are attacking mumbai", the reporter in CNN says

edit3: now saying the alqaeda headquarter is in pakistan, and linking pakistan to this attacks. "They were in Afnganistan, but when the USA went there they cross the border and now they are inf Pakistan", CNN reporter says.




They are still trying to spin this as terrorists against westerners.

They are not talking about how the Indian economy has been destroyed by BS Rothschild/Rockefeller pump and dump games.

They are reporting this as if it was an attack on a US embassy by OBL himself.
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 04:11:15 PM
HOLY SHIT:

A photo of one of the terrorists--looks like he's possessed--MKULTRA??

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/mbc29/mkultra.jpg (http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/mbc29/mkultra.jpg)
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: Biggs November 26, 2008, 04:12:19 PM
Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 900 injured

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_900_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms


The attacks have taken a tragic toll on the city's top police brass: The high-profile chief of the anti-terror squad Hemant Karkare was killed; Mumbai's additional commissioner of police (east) Ashok Kamte was gunned down outside the Metro; and celebrated encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar was also killed

add to my list another hospital, both the Cama and GT hospitals attacked, and a cinema multiplex and a local airport (not Mumbai International)

so that is attacks in 13 locations, plus numerous smaller random shooting incidents

900 wounded

f**k me

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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:12:43 PM
Kiwis trapped in hotel room
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4774656a12.html
By MICHAEL FOX - Stuff.co.nz | Thursday, 27 November 2008


New Zealander David Clemmett and his wife Vinka are reportedly trapped inside their Mumbai hotel room.


They heard pistols, rifles, shotguns and grenades, NewstalkZB reported.

Clemmett and his wife, according to the radio station, locked themselves in their room, barricaded the TV unit against the doors and pulled the blind down to protect themselves from broken glass.

He said smoke had filled the room from fires within the hotel and they had to rip the smoke detector off the wall.

Auckland businessman Steve Simms is also in Mumbai, near where the chaos is gripping the Indian city.

Simms said he was holed up in his hotel, about 800 to 1200 metres from the hotels under siege. His hotel was under heavy security guard.

"It sounds like its almost about 200m away," he said.

"I'm still hearing gunfire and grenades and it's now 2am."

The attacks had been going for three hours and it was hard to say whether the situation was improving or getting worse.

Simms said he was not concerned for his safety due to the heavy security presence around his hotel - a sister property to one of the hotels where the terrorist attacks were happening.

"It would appear that every third person is a security guard in Mumbai.

"I know I might sound a little bit jovial about it but, hey, it's 1.46am over here and I'm pretty buggered and I just find the whole situation pretty bizarre."

Mr Simms said there was no indication leading up to the attack that the violence was about to erupt.

"It's an absolute surprise to everybody."

His family and friends were worried but he was keeping in contact with them on the phone and over the Internet.

"Everyone's obviously watching ... of course they are worried. Needless to say, I'm all packed up and ready to go if I have to."

However, he was confident the situation would be resolved and he would be able to stay.

"This is just another situation that will last probably 24 hours. The whole city is under lock down, everyone's going to conform, all the terrorists will be arrested and some of them will escape."

This was not the first time Mr Simms has been in India around the time of a terrorist attack - arriving in Bangalore the day after terrorist attacks earlier this year.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 04:13:12 PM
HOLY SHIT:

A photo of one of the terrorists--looks like he's possessed--MKULTRA??

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/mbc29/mkultra.jpg (http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/mbc29/mkultra.jpg)

crazy!
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 04:13:14 PM
I think it will be difficult to blame this on Islamic terrorists. First, they have no reason to do this in India. Second, they were showing a picture of one of the terrorists and he was definitely Indian.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:13:27 PM
7 foreigners among 15 taken hostage by 2 gunmen in Taj Hotel
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=Cricket&id=f1d80a52-6489-4367-8b55-65d48e7e5c3c&&Headline=7+foreigners+among+15+taken+hostage
Mumbai, November 27, 2008
First Published: 02:21 IST(27/11/2008)
Last Updated: 02:28 IST(27/11/2008)

Two terrorists carrying guns tonight took 15 people, half of them foreigners, hostage on the roof of the luxury Taj Hotel here, one of the hostages who managed to escape said.

Two youths in their 20s came to the restaurant of the hotel and took 15 people to the roof of the hotel, Rakesh Patel, a businessman from London who lives in Hong Kong, told NDTV giving the first eyewitness account of what happened in the five-star hotel in South Mumbai.

"The two young boys came to the restaurant and took us upstairs. We were taken to the 18th floor from where we escaped", he said.

Replying to a question, Patel said the terrorists wanted to know if any one of the hostages was carrying American and British passports.
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: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 04:13:39 PM
CNN already reporting the State Department condemns attacks.

 How quaint. They also condemned their own attacks in Oklahoma and The WTC....
 If any more of these attacks happen closer to the US, and we can gurantee a police state...
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 04:14:36 PM
Somebody just claimed responsibility.  I couldn't understand the name. Anyone else hear this?
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:14:43 PM
Australians flee terror attacks in Mumbai, India
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24714136-663,00.html
Aaron Langmaid

November 27, 2008 06:35am


7:59 UPDATE: AUSTRALIANS are bunkered down in Mumbai, India, amid terror strikes against westerners leaving at least 78 dead.

Nine Australians are among terrified tourists hiding from armed men amid a series of bombings and shootings in India's financial capital.

Other Australians have fled the attacks in which gunman opened fire at luxury hotels, restaurants, the main railway station.

The death toll is now more than 80 including four policemen, Indian reports say, after coordinated attacks on luxury hotels targeting western tourists.

The Press Trust of India says at least 60 bodies and more than 200 arrived at hospitals after the attacks, but the death toll continues to rise.

Gunmen with powerful assault rifles and grenades have targeted two luxury hotels, a railway station and restaurant in the attacks and a third hotel has been bombed.

Some of the gunmen are still holed up in the luxury Taj Hotel in the city, where at least three people are dead.

Three staff were shot dead at the luxury Taj Mahal hotel.

The Taj, next to the British colonial-era Gateway of India monument, is one of the world's leading hotels and regularly attracts VIP visitors.

"Some of these terrorists are still holed up inside the Taj hotel," Mr Roy said.

"No hostages have been taken but we are evacuating some of the guests."

But the BBC News website said that British member of the European Parliament, Sajjad Karim, was also in the hotel at the time and saw a gunman open fire in the lobby.

“All I saw was one man on foot carrying a machine gun-type of weapon - which I then saw him firing from and I saw people hitting the floor, people right next to me,'' he was quoted as saying.

One British guest told local Indian television that he had been among a dozen people herded together by two heavily armed men and taken up to the hotel's upper floors.

“They were very young, like boys really, wearing jeans and T-shirts,'' the guest said.

“They said they wanted anyone with British and American passports and then they took us up the stairs. I think they wanted to take us to the roof,'' he said, adding that he and another hostage had managed to escape when they reached the 18th floor.

As he was speaking, there was a loud explosion from the roof of the hotel

Australian tourist Isaac Zalme in a small restaurant in the city told Channel Nine this morning that the city was in chaos.

"There were people driving around in a cop car shooting people,'' he said.

"There’s gunmen on the streets … it’s pretty crazy.

"We haven’t heard anything from the authorities at the moment

"I look out onto the street and all I can see is ambulances and police.

"We will hang out here (at the restaurant) for as long as possible. It’s a waiting game, we will wait and see what happens.

Mr Zaalme said he had travelled to the city for a wedding, and it was his first time in India.

Maharashtra state police chief A N Roy told the NDTV channel that "unknown terrorists" had opened fire at "at least seven to eight places" across the city.

The Press Trust of India (PTI) quoted police as saying that 10 people were killed late Wednesday and more than 30 people injured in gunfire at the main Chhatrapati Shivaji railway station.

Gunshots were also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai, while the lobby of another five-star hotel, the Trident, formerly the Oberoi, was on fire, witnesses said

Another three people died in what they described as a "bomb blast" in a taxi in the southeast of the city.

Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A K Sharma was quoted as saying that several men armed with AK-47 rifles had stormed into the passenger hall of the main railway station shortly after 10.30pm (0400 AEDT) and opened fire and thrown grenades.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has condemned the attacks.

The head of the Madrid regional government, Esperanza Aguirre, was staying there at the time but she and her delegation escaped unhurt, a government spokesman in Madrid said.

India has witnessed a series of coordinated attacks in recent months.

A little-known Islamic group, the Islamic Security Force-Indian Mujahedeen, claimed responsibility for serial blasts last month in India's northeast state of Assam that claimed nearly 80 lives.

A total of 12 explosions shook the insurgency-hit northeastern state, six of them ripping through crowded areas in the main city of Guwahati.

Six weeks earlier, the capital New Delhi had been hit by a series of bombs in crowded markets that left more than 20 dead.

Those blasts were claimed by a group calling itself the Indian Mujahedeen.

The Department of Foreign Affairs has urged anybody with concerns about Australians in India to call 1300 555 135.

with Matthew Schulz, AAP and AFP

More updates here throughout the day
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:15:33 PM
Mumbai brought down to its knees
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Mumbai-brought-down-to-its-knees/391150
Press Trust of India
Posted: Nov 27, 2008 at 0204 hrs IST

Mumbai : Mumbai was brought to its knees tonight as it came under an unprecedented multiple Terror attack bringing areas from the south to the north of the metropolis under its grip.

As vehicles of the Mumbai police blazed passed blaring sirens, people could be seen running helter-skelter, at times even crawling, to save themselves with reports of firings and explosions coming from across the city.

Even as heavily armed police stormed into Taj Hotel, just opposite Gateway of India where suspected terrorists were holed up, blood-soaked guests could be seen being carried out into waiting ambulances. Bellboys rushed the injured out on luggage trolleys.

The scene at the nearby Trident Hotel was more horrific as glass lay shattered on the ground even as fire could be seen raging out of the lobby. Windshields of cars parked nearby had broken because of a suspected bomb being set off at the hotel.

At the crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal (CST) Railway Station, hordes of mediapersons could be seen jostling for space as the area was cordoned off, with no media allowed near even as an encounter went on inside.

The busy city which is known for its nightlife wore a deserted look as shops closed down.“My wife and mother were travelling to Goa. After putting them on train, I heard shots being fired, which made me run out with the crowd. But I have manged to speak to them and they are fine,” a visibly shaken Milind said.

Another eyewitness said: “I was just boarding a train when I saw two persons with rucksacks suddenly turn and begin firing. I just managed to to save my life and run through a subway. I also heard a grenade shot.”

The Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal (CST) Railway Station, which is always crowded, was cordoned off, with hundreds of commuters stranded as trains have been cancelled.

Outside the Oberoi Hotel, people were seen running with their hands raised apparently to dissociate themselves from being terrorists.

Some cars were blown up high in the air and other vehicles were also damaged in the blast which followed the firing in the hotels. Glasspanes were scattered all around the area.

“It was really scary. It was like the sound of loud crackers, not one but several, we just ran out of there,” said a tourist who had been at a restaurant in the Taj Hotel.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:16:16 PM
Army called in Mumbai to control situation
http://www.geo.tv/11-27-2008/29577.htm
 Updated at: 0155 PST,  Thursday, November 27, 2008
 MUMBAI: Indian media have confirmed early Thursday that, in the face of the terrorist strikes in Indian financial capital Mumbai, the army have been called in, to take the control of the city as the terrorist still at large and creating panic among the masses.

Terrorist strikes in Indian Mumbai killed 82 people and injured over 250 people after that the terrorist continued massacre that could not be brought under control by Indian security forces.

Terrorist took as many as 40 people under hostage in three five star hotels in Mumbai and indiscriminate firing and blasts killed many others.
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 04:16:19 PM
Somebody just claimed responsibility.  I couldn't understand the name. Anyone else hear this?

Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility.  
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: releasethebonds November 26, 2008, 04:16:20 PM
Someone on fax said...THIS WILL MAKE THE DOLLAR STRONGER.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:17:16 PM
Deccan Mujaheddin claimed responsibility.  

Anyone got a video of Brzezinski training them personally like he did the Afghan Mujahedin?
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: admin November 26, 2008, 04:18:19 PM
Sir,

You say he looked Indian, but he could just as easily be Pakistani. I see this ultimately being blamed on Pakistan.
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 04:18:30 PM
Dude--this is straight out of Langley (with Indian stooge cooperation perhaps).  It's so well coordinated--the English-speaking media of India is there; they're showing the blood ... since when do Indians go out and kill white people??????????????  Does that make any sense??

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: IridiumKEPfactor November 26, 2008, 04:18:49 PM
Mumbai's anti terror chief killed in attacks.

Inside job.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 04:19:38 PM
The Times of India reports that unknown outfit Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility of the attacks.

http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=65185
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 04:20:43 PM
Mumbai's anti terror chief killed in attacks.

Inside job.

He was a very good soul.  A patriot to the last--was not corrupt (a rare sight in Indian institutions), and very intelligent and effective.  He went into the Hotel himself, Jack Bauer style, and took three in the chest.  Very sad.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:22:08 PM
HOLY SHIT:

A photo of one of the terrorists--looks like he's possessed--MKULTRA??

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/mbc29/mkultra.jpg)

The media is starting to report it, I agree this will have to be blamed on Pakistan to fit into the Obama escalation of the "GWOT".
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: releasethebonds November 26, 2008, 04:22:23 PM
anyone here claim responsibility?
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 04:22:34 PM
Sir,

You say he looked Indian, but he could just as easily be Pakistani. I see this ultimately being blamed on Pakistan.

Yes, he could of been Pakistani.  The Deccan Mujaheddin claimed responsibility. They say it's an unknown outfit, so they could probably blame it on anyone.
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: Capt. Obvious November 26, 2008, 04:25:19 PM
Watson has picked the story up:

Mumbai Attacks To Be Linked To Obama Target Pakistan?
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/november2008/112608_mumbai_attacks.htm
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: IridiumKEPfactor November 26, 2008, 04:27:10 PM
Link to photos from Mubai flikr user.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinu (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinu)
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: Biggs November 26, 2008, 04:27:52 PM
BBC also now saying that 900 wounded

also a mention that there are SIXTEEN  different groups of armed men roaming the city shooting it up
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 04:29:36 PM
Yea as i said before this is a coordinated effort probably by MI6 (that's where they operate) to surround Pakistan with enemies.  I saw this coming a month ago when U.S. Signed a Nuclear deal with India amid the Pakistan attacks. Pakistan is now completely Surrounded and in not bargaining position. Geo Politics is a nasty thing.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:30:10 PM
Deccan Mujahideen is a f**king CIA front group.

Before today no such group ever existed.

The media just f**king created it out of the blue.

How could an unknown group bring a whole city to its knees along with killing such high priority targets?

This is an international conglomerate of black ops trained mercenaries used to justify some geo-political bullshit.

These poor people trapped in the city are pawns in this.
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: Optimus November 26, 2008, 04:30:42 PM
Islamist group claims responsibility for Mumbai attacks
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/392515/1/.html
Posted: 27 November 2008 0523 hrs

MUMBAI, India: A group calling itself the 'Deccan Mujahedeen' claimed responsibility for Wednesday's attacks in India's commercial hub Mumbai that killed more than 60 people, the Press Trust of India said.

The outfit sent emails to various media outlets saying it carried out the attacks across the city, the news agency said.

Another little-known Islamic group, the Islamic Security Force-Indian Mujahedeen, had claimed responsibility for serial blasts last month in India's northeast state of Assam that claimed nearly 80 lives.

Six weeks earlier, the capital New Delhi had been hit by a series of bombs in crowded markets that left more than 20 dead.

Those blasts were claimed by a group calling itself the Indian Mujahedeen. - AFP/de

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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 04:30:51 PM
Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 900 injured

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_900_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 04:32:08 PM
Deccan Mujahideen is a f**king CIA front group.

Before today no such group ever existed.

The media just f**king created it out of the blue.

How could an unknown group bring a whole city to its knees along with killing such high priority targets?

This is an international conglomerate of black ops trained mercenaries used to justify some geo-political bullshit.

These poor people trapped in the city are pawns in this.

...and they were in police cars...
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:33:01 PM
"The outfit sent emails to various media outlets saying it carried out the attacks across the city, the news agency said."

Trace the emails and they will probably have originated from Langley.
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: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 04:34:31 PM
Islamist group claims responsibility for Mumbai attacks
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/392515/1/.html
Posted: 27 November 2008 0523 hrs

MUMBAI, India: A group calling itself the 'Deccan Mujahedeen' claimed responsibility for Wednesday's attacks in India's commercial hub Mumbai that killed more than 60 people, the Press Trust of India said.


After a bit of quick research, this new 'group' would be from the Deccan plateau in Pakistan. I doubt that this new group exists and is more than likely a 'shock n awe' front from NATO 'hired guns'
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: Anti_Illuminati November 26, 2008, 04:35:51 PM
He was a very good soul.  A patriot to the last--was not corrupt (a rare sight in Indian institutions), and very intelligent and effective.  He went into the Hotel himself, Jack Bauer style, and took three in the chest.  Very sad.

Sounds like that would mean he was a "real" anti-terror chief, i.e.-anti-false flag terror chief, hence he was killed.  Disgusting.
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: Anti_Illuminati November 26, 2008, 04:36:43 PM
BBC also now saying that 900 wounded

also a mention that there are SIXTEEN  different groups of armed men roaming the city shooting it up

I wonder if Blackwater is there...
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 04:38:12 PM
Sounds like that would mean he was a "real" anti-terror chief, i.e.-anti-false flag terror chief, hence he was killed.  Disgusting.

Yes--this is the equivalent of an Admiral Fallon or a Michael Scheuer "suiciding" themselves by two shots in their head.
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: Biggs November 26, 2008, 04:38:42 PM
the Deccan plateau is in southern India and is where Bangalore is situated,
unless there are two deccan plateaus

very bizarrely,

once BBC News 24 (domestic channel0 started reported 900 wounded and 16 groups of gunmen they suddenly switched to BBc World (overseas channel) whihc is still reporting old enws

given that both Times of India and Hindustan Times are reporting 900 wounded it is reasonable to say 900 people have been wounded

so why switch to the foreign news service half way through BBC coverage

perhaps they prefer to play down the truth in some way
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 04:40:42 PM
"The outfit sent emails to various media outlets saying it carried out the attacks across the city, the news agency said."

Trace the emails and they will probably have originated from Langley.
Mi6 runs that area of the world for the most part.... CIA runs our sphere of influence, like the drug cartel countries and "enemy" socialist states such as Cuba  and Venezeuala. They could be colluding too but MI6 has a major role in this, recall the MI6 mishap in Basra IRaq where the two agents were caught with Arabic Clothing and fake beirds shooting civilians, then two tanks rolled through the Iraqi Police and just snatched them and left.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:41:35 PM
Story from 1999:

Frankenstein the CIA created
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/jan/17/yemen.islam

Hey look at Brzezinski training the Mujahideen personally:

Start at 6:20... http://www.prisonplanet.com/vice-president-joe-biden-promises-wearechange-an-upcoming-crisis.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

History of CIA fcuking with India...

Sunday, September 14, 2008
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India has conflicts with several of its neighbors: Pakistan, China, and Sri Lanka. The situation in Sri Lanka pits a Sinhalese-majority population, against the Tamil minority. Many of these conflicts stay at the level of intelligence and special operations, but periodically break into major conflict.

The Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) is India's foreign intelligence organization, while the Intelligence Bureau (IB) is responsible for counterintelligence. The military has a separate Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) India prides itself as having a history of skilled intelligence going back to antiquity.[1]

CIA activities in India need to be seen in the context that India and its neighbors involve a complex interplay among their intelligence services, as well as interested services from the US, UK, Russia, Israel and China.

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It is Blood Hurricane causing Mass Destruction across the Political borders worldwide. War Economy Corporate imperialism created a Galaxy system of Terror and fighting against it ironically! Racial War against Terror faces new challenges as it has to encounter the New face of white Terror!
Terror strikes the Heart in India. it is the Indian capital showcased as the virtual reality Show of Industrialisation and development escalating the consumer market. Only recently, I have wasted enough space to express my experiences in New Delhi during Bomb Blasts in Bangalore and Ahmadabad! The hype of security creates only unease for the common people while they are never protected. New Delhi`s Common Public remains always the softest target of terror as they live in the Heart of India. As VIPs and VVIPs remain safe, security agencies as well the government damn care for us, the scape goats any where in India. Metros are no exception!

New Delhi is the Epi Centre of Power politics in south Asia and any action may create Tremors across the divided Geopolitics bleeding! Twin tower blasts have changed the landscape as well as human scape on this planet,we know. Anti India, Anti Asia forces use the Terror Phenomenon to create tremors in Third world. The Terror strike may provoke Full Scale War and Civil War any time any where. And it will mean growth for the US Corporate War Economy.

In sixties, seventies and even eighties, we were accustomed to read and hear so many stories about CIA activities in third world and specially, south Asia countries.

Mrs Indira Gandhi was the person who always accused the Big power to destabilise India. Her high profile life was ended in a terror Strike unprecedented. Her Son Rajiv Gandhi was also killed in a suicide bomb attack. Santosh Sivan film, `The Terrorist’, exposes a little bit of Terror psyche. We have a genuine case study of operation Blue Star to study the Big Bang of Terror! I am afraid , we never cared to study!

We also read some stories of CIA agents in Indian Power Politics!

We know well how CIA plants its agents in key positions.

Since nineties as globalisation, privatisation and liberalisation took over soviet model of development as well as the concept of democracy and welfare state, we never chance to hear about CIA role in this subcontinent! CIA evaporated like a big dream. Politicians who were habitual to brand one another as the most despised CIA agent, never pronounce the sacred word. Never again!
Any novice would understand, how US interests are invested in this subcontinent! It is more strange that we never see nowadays any role for CIA in South Asia!

Instability, War and Civil War situations are directly responsible for direct US Military interference anywhere in this Unipolar Globe! We know all about Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Dar fur, Georgia, Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan!

Have we to wait until India is targeted by US Military Power!

In India, general security conditions are all about VIP VVIP Security! All about Z and Z plus security!

Who bothers for the Common Men`s security!

Mumbai, UP, Bangalore, Jaipur, Ahmadabad and Delhi blasts killed the Common Men and spared the VIP Blood!

The Blood is spilling in blood hurricanes all over the world. We are the scapegoats to create Blind nationalism to open the flood gates of war, Civil War, Instability, succession and weapon industries!

We the Black Untouchables, the enslaved communities worldwide are being killed to protect the hegemony interests.

And who does not know, Terror is the best weapon nowadays.

Where from comes the funding?

Where from comes the technology?
Who washes the Brain?
Who creates the Terrorist mind set?
Who supports the Terror network?
Who trains the Terrorists?
Where they get the shelter?
Where the have a transparent transit route?

From the first day of my first Delhi visit, I disliked New Delhi as it has the smallest space for the common man. Coming down from the Hills, my college Nainital, I had to buy drinking water everywhere in New Delhi! In 1974. i had just appeared in class eleven exams! Thanks to my family links with Politicians like ND Tiwari, I had entry in the Prime ministers` Office as well as all over the VIP New Delhi. Tiwari and Pant occupying major portfolios in Indira Gandhi ministry, always ensured some room for us in their Bungalows! I knew South Block as well as South Avenue! Later I came to know other avenues of Power in New Delhi. for Example: the Media, Culture, Literature and Intelligentsia!

But I am habitual to visit all the crowdy markets and public places in New Delhi since my Childhood. My father Pulin Babu took me over to Jamuna bank colonies of Bangladeshi refugees right in 1974.
I was astonished to see so much land was wasted for cremation of our National Leaders all over New Delhi. Belonging to peasantry of India, i wonder how much land they would need beyond life. I was astonished to amp the Raiseena Hills. How much is needed for our First Citizen.

But our people, the Have Nots have nothing to own except displacement, unemployment, punishment, persecution and death!

I know the villages surviving among the sky raisers in New Delhi. I saw Noida growing on Farm Land. I had been in Meerut for six years. I studied the geography, economy, politics and history of Riots in India. I witnessed deindustrialisation and displacement right from the Himalayas to Ganga Sagar. I visited south India as well as North east India. i talked to some terrorist Ideologues from North East and south.
Physically Secession is unpragmatic, unpractical. Insurgency is nothing different popular mass movements in the mainstream India! The demand of secession creates an advantage to strike a deal! The best case study may be quoted as Gorkhaland. Any Fool would assume that the Gurkhas would like to join Greater Nepal. It is also quite a Nuisance to float the stories of Greater Bangladesh including West Bengal and entire North East. I am sure that either joining to Pakistan or Independent Kashmir , none of this happens to be any option for the Kashmir valley.

North East and entire Himalayan zone depend heavily on supply line linked to the main land. any disruption would mean death.

Kashmir valley would never get the subsidy in Pakistan as they get in India. Instable Pakistan may never afford Kashmir. It is a political as well as diplomatic ploy to generate more foreign fund! nothing else! it is a tough bargain against international community.

Demand related to liberation is rhetoric only which is related to nationality, ethnic identity. While the Military option like AFPSA and POTA has the only solution, ethnic cleansing! This is the softest proactive fertile ground for the genetically modified seeds of terrorism. Before nineties we knew CIA as the Prime harvester. But ruling hegemony seems to claim that CIA is dislodged and ISI is solely responsible for the mischief.

Even the hypocrite anti Imperialist anti fascist ant US Left never dares to accuse the CIA. Security agencies are just like the one eyed does just targeting the Muslims to solve a more complex phenomenon of Terrorism!

It is not religion.new faces of terror exposed prove that.

The terrorists are not that fundamental however funded they might be!

They are not that dogmatic however Ideologue they might sound!

They are well educated, polished technocrats of globalisation and this bloody Manusmriti Apartheid Post Modern Galaxy Order run by weapon Economy based Corporate Imperialism creates them!

Without looking into this, I am afraid, no lead would enable us to expose the forces behind the Terror!

A day after five meticulously planned serial blasts ripped apart Delhi on Saturday evening, killing at least 26 people and injuring over 100, a massive hunt is on to nab the culprits, including Abdul Subhan alias Tauqeer, the alleged mastermind of the terror attack. Security is tight across the national capital, especially around busy markets, cinema halls, hospitals and Delhi Metro stations. An alert has also been sounded across the country, including in the financial capital Mumbai and other metros. On the other hand,Mumbai Police were investigating the links and possible connection to Saturday's Delhi serial blasts of 15 suspects whose names were passed on by the Gujarat police, an official said in Mumbai Sunday.

The CPI(M) today denounced the terrorist network that perpetrated serial blasts in national capital claiming 26 lives.The party stressed on the need for effective intelligence and investigating systems to nab those behind such activities and not "draconian detention laws that have proved ineffective in the past".

Expressing sympathy to the families of the victims, the party's Politburo sought an explanation from the Centre as to "why the intelligence and the security set up have failed to identify and dismantle the terrorist groups that are operating".

It demanded that the Central government should convene Parliament Session immediately and table a report.

The party maintained that the serial blasts in Delhi, which was similar to those that occurred in Ahmedabad, Bangalore and Jaipur, indicated that the capacity of the terrorist network to strike has not been curbed despite claims that some of the main culprits have been arrested after the Ahmedabad blasts.

"Given this latest outrage in the capital, it is imperative for the Central government to explain why the intelligence and security set up have failed to identify and dismantle the terrorist groups that are operating," it said.

The US has firmed up an "aggressive" three-phase plan to conduct cross-border raids into Pakistan from Afghanistan to strike at the elusive Osama bin Laden and other top al-Qaeda leaders believed to be hiding in the tribal region, a media report said today. Last week's "snatch and grab" raid by helicopter-borne US Special Operations forces in Pakistan was not an isolated incident but part of a three-phase plan, approved by President Bush, to strike at al-Qaeda's top leadership, the National Public Radio (NPR) reported. Pentagon and White House officials have declined to discuss the new plan. The intelligence community already had approval from Bush to carry out operations inside Pakistan, which included attacks by Predator drones, the report said.


The plan calls for a much more aggressive military campaign, it quoted a source familiar with presidential order, which allowed the US military to conduct the raids, as saying.The plan represents an 11th-hour effort to hammer al-Qaeda more aggressively as the Bush administration's term ends in January next, two officials were quoted as saying.

"Definitely, the gloves have come off," said a source who has been briefed on the plan. "This was only Phase 1 of three phases."

The latest US move has caused much concern in Islamabad with Army Chief Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, in an unusually strong public statement recently, vowing to defend the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity "at all cost".

The NPR report also said that CIA personnel from around the world were being pulled into the Afghan-Pak border area, an intelligence-community "surge" to go after bin Laden and other al-Qaeda figures.

Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Congress this week that he is drafting a new military strategy for both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Terror seems to have come a full circle in the national capital which was rocked three years back by serial blasts in busy Sarojni Nagar area of South Delhi.

In New Delhi,Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Sunday visited a hospital here and met some of those injured in the serial blasts.

The prime minister spent 10 minutes at the Ram Manohar Lohia Hospital. Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit, Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta and Delhi Police Commissioner Y.S. Dadwal accompanied him.

United Progressive Alliance (UPA) chairperson Sonia Gandhi and Dikshit also met the injured in the hospital on Saturday night. At least 21 people were killed in the five explosions.

In Washington:As it reaches out to the Indian American community leaders given their lobbying prowess, the Bush Administration is understood to have assured them that the recent Presidential submission on the 123 Agreement to the Congress had nothing (rpt) nothing that contravened what India and the US had agreed under the nuclear deal.

The administration is leaving no stone unturned as it races against time to have the US-India civilian nuclear agreement completed by the Congressional adjournment date of September 26 even if indications are there that the lawmakers may return for a Lame-Duck Session after the November 4 presidential elections.

It is learnt that the administration has stepped up efforts in getting the measure approved before Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit here on September 25 during which he will meet President George W Bush at the White House.

The White House has opened yet another channel in its lobbying efforts -- the Indian American community leaders who played a vital role in the passage of the Hyde Act in 2006 in the 109th Congress.

It is learnt that the administration reached out to a small group of powerful members of the Indian American community through a conference call, the primary objective of which was apparently to explain the significance of the Presidential submission to Congress and has assured them that there is nothing that contravenes what India and the US have agreed upon by way of the 123 Agreement.

In New York: With the US pushing through a broad array of foreign weapons deals, a leading Democrat has slammed the Bush Administration's arms sale policy arguing that military supplies to Pakistan were doing more to stoke tension with India than combat terrorism, a media report said.As part of its policy, the administration seeks to re-arm Iraq and Afghanistan, contain North Korea and Iran and solidify ties with onetime Russian allies, 'The New York Times' reported today.

Howard L Berman of California, Chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, who sponsored a bill passed in May to overhaul the arms export process, was quoted as saying that American military sales, while often well-intended, were sometimes misguided.

He cited military sales to Pakistan, which he said he feared were doing more to stoke tension with India than combat terrorism in the region.

Recently, Berman along with Nita Lowey, Chairwoman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations and Related Programmes Representatives, moved to suspend the release of nearly USD 230 million in counter-terrorism funds by the Bush Administration for upgrades to Pakistan's ageing F-16 fighter-jet fleet.

They reportedly asked the Bush administration not to shift USD 226.5 million in anti-terrorism aid to the Pakistan military as they feared the plan would impede efforts to stop terrorism and that they needed more time to study it.

Berman was quoted as saying by the Times today that he supported many of the individual weapons sales, like helping Iraq build the capacity to defend itself, but he worried that the sales blitz could have some negative effects.

"This could turn into a spiralling arms race that in the end could decrease stability," he said.


In New Delhi: With Saturday evening's serial blasts in Delhi, the unsolved cases have gone up with police and security agencies groping in the dark about the main perpetrators behind these attacks. The serial blasts in the national capital on the eve of Diwali in 2005, that claimed over 60 lives, began a fresh chapter of unsolved cases with central security agencies.Claims by Delhi Police about some arrests in this case came under a cloud as Tariq Dar, arrested in connection with the case, accused the police of framing him. No headway was made. While there have been claims by police and agencies of busting one module or the other, terrorists seem to have demonstrated that they are very much active and can strike at will, says a senior security official.


Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil chaired a high-level meeting to assess the security situation even as police worked on eyewitness accounts to prepare sketches of suspected terrorists who planted the bombs. While in the ongoing Delhi blasts investigation, Students Islamic Movement of India's (SIMI) involvement is also under scrutiny by intelligence agencies.A SIMI activist arrested in connection with Hubli terror camps had hinted at attacks on Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Delhi - an operation codenamed BAD.Meanwhile, the Lt Governer of Delhi has met police officers across the city and suggested the possibility of making crowded markets pedestrian zone.He also emphasized on the need to make alternate parking arrangements master plan on security to be completed in the next three months.Earlier, talking to NDTV Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit said that Delhi metro could have been the target of terrorists on Saturday.The Indian Mujahideen has claimed responsibility once again in an email sent just minutes after the first blast that shook the national capital on Saturday evening.The mail mentioned 9 bombs. There were 5 blasts and 4 live bombs defused, exactly matching the details.

Cricket Australia (CA) on Sunday said it will review the security situation in India following Saturday's serial blasts in New Delhi and decide next week whether to proceed with the next month's four-match Test tour or not.

CA Public Affairs Manager Peter Young said the board will seek advice from the Australian Government and ask team security manager Reg Dickason to compile an urgent report on the security situation in India.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Sunday wrote to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh expressing condolences over the loss of lives in the serial bomb blasts here and conveyed his country's solidarity with India in meeting the challenge of terrorism.

Sarkozy who will meet Singh during the latter's visit to France later this month said he would like to use the opportunity to discuss "strengthening our action against this scourge".

The Bush administration is pushing through a wide range of foreign weapons deals in a bid to rearm Iraq and Afghanistan and contain North Korea and Iran, The New York Times reported.


The deals range from tanks, helicopters and fighter jets to missiles, remotely piloted aircraft and warships, the Times said in its Sunday editions. The weapons and other military equipment foreign sales have totaled more than $32 billion this year, compared with $12 billion in 2005.

While the focus has been on the Middle East, sales extend to northern Africa, Asia, Latin America, Europe and Canada, the Times said.

"This is not about being gunrunners," the Times quoted Bruce Lemkin, the Air Force deputy undersecretary who has coordinated many of the largest sales, as saying. "This is about building a more secure world."

In the past two years, Iraq has signed agreements worth more than $3 billion, and also said it planned to buy as much as $7 billion more in U.S. equipment, the Times said. Over the past three years, Washington, the world's top arms supplier, had agreed to buy more than $10 billion in military equipment and weapons on behalf of Afghanistan, according to Defense Department records, the newspaper said.

Pentagon spokeswoman Lt. Col. Almarah Belk said such deals served the interests of Iraq and the United States because they cut the risk of corruption and helped Iraq "in getting around bottlenecks in their acquisition processes."

Much of the rearmament in the Gulf has been driven by fears of Iran. The Times said the United Arab Emirates were considering U.S.-made missile defense systems worth as much as $16 billion, while Saudi Arabia had agreed this year to at least $6 billion in weapons purchases from Washington, the most since 1993, and Israel was increasing its orders.

U.S. allies in Asia have also been buying more U.S. equipment as North Korea conducts long-range missile tests. South Korea alone signed sales agreements this year worth $1.1 billion.

Rep. Howard Berman, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said that while he backed many of the weapons sales such as those that helped Iraq defend itself, he worried the spike "could turn into a spiraling arms race that in the end could decrease stability," the Times said.

The Times, citing Defense Department sales data through the end of August, reported that countries newly reliant on the United States as a primary major weapons source included Argentina, Brazil, India, Iraq, Morocco and Pakistan and former Soviet republics Azerbaijan and Georgia.

Together the countries signed $870 million worth of arms deals with the Bush administration from 2001 to 2004, but in the past four fiscal years the total had increased to $13.8 billion.


On the other hand, the Indian Mujahideen, which has claimed the responsibility for the serial terror blasts in Delhi, Ahmedabad, Bangalore and Jaipur, killing at least 130 people in a span of four months, has now threatened to carry out attacks in India's financial capital - Mumbai.

Accusing Mumbai Police's Anti-Terrorism Squad of harassing Muslims, the Indian Mujahideen, believed to be a front strike unit of the banned Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), said in its email that it was closely watching the ATS.

"You should know that your acts are not at all left unnoticed; rather we are closely keeping an eye on you and just waiting for the proper time to execute your bloodshed. We are aware of your recent night raids at Ansarnagar, Mograpada in Andheri and the harassment and trouble you created there for the Muslims," the group said in the email.

"You threatened to murder them and your mischief went to such an extent that you even dared to abuse and insult Maulana Mahmood-ul-Hasan Qasmi and even misbehaved with the Muslim women and children there.

"If this is the degree to which your arrogance has reached, and if you think that by these stunts you can scare us, then let the Indian Mujahideen warn all the people of Mumbai that whatever deadly attacks you will face in future, the only responsible elements for it will be the Mumbai ATS and their guardians: Vilasrao Deshmukh and R.R. Patil.

"You are already on our hit-list and this time very very seriously."

The terror outfit also threatened to target a senior Rajasthan police official. "Let us notify you, as we did to the Gujarat police that all the Mujahideen who shook Jaipur are absolutely safe and secure, and are heavily preparing for our next targets, one of which is A.K. Jain - the DIG (deputy inspector general) of Rajasthan.

Jain has been instrumental in arresting several SIMI members in Rajasthan in connection with the May 13 serial blasts in Jaipur. The mail bears two signatures at the end, GuruAlhindi and Al-Arbi.

People continued with their daily chores and public transport normally plied in the city, an eerie silence prevailed in the blast-hit Karol Bagh and Connaught Place areas a day after the terror attack. Investigations into the blasts meanwhile continued today with the Delhi Police’s Special Cell, which is leading the probe, continuing to pick up forensic evidence at the five blasts sites in Connaught Place, Karol Bagh and Greater Kailash I.Zeenews reports.Investigators believe the attackers had packed the bombs with ammonium nitrate besides shrapnels and ball bearings for maximum impact. But while the bombs killed people in Connaught Place and Karol Bagh, no one died in South Delhi's upmarket Greater Kailash-I M Block market.The blasts, however, failed to dampen the spirits of Delhiites, who continued with normal life today. Major markets, however, attracted fewer people. Traffic on the city's roads was sparse.City hospitals like RML, Jasaram, Lady Hardinge, Ganga Ram and LNJP, where the injured were admitted, saw a hectic activity overnight and in the morning as relatives of the victims came to visit them. Some people at RML and LNJP hospitals were seen worried as they were not able to trace their relatives since the blasts last night.

In BANGALORE: BJP leader L K Advani said on Sunday that the stringent anti-terror law POTA will be restored if the NDA comes to power, a day after serial blasts rocked Delhi.

"POTA will be restored and the terror control acts forwarded by the states would be given ratification if NDA comes to power," Advani told the his partymen here on Sunday.

He also lashed out at the UPA government for not approving the anti-terror law forwarded by the Gujarat government that is pending before the President for the last four years. POTA which was enacted by the NDA regime was scrapped by the UPA when it came to power in 2004.

Adressing a rally here on Saturday, the party's Prime Ministerial termed Manmohan Singh led UPA regime "to be the most worthless government in the history of free India". He said the "soft" approach of the central government in combating terror due to "fears of loss the minority vote bank" is responsible for the frequent terror strikes in the country.



In New Delhi:15-year-old girl Puja, who had suffered splinter injuries in the explosion at Gaffar market in Karol Bagh, died in a hospital raising the toll to 21, police said.

After the 90-minute meeting chaired by Patil, Union Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta told reporters here that "we have discussed various measures that may be needed not only in Delhi but other major cities".

Without going into details of what transpired during the discussions, Gupta said the Ministry is taking all steps to "fill up any kind of gap, strengthening the machinery, the system and processes".

In a word of caution, the Home Secretary said "neither your (media) or anybody should say or do anything which creates unnecessary apprehensions or whips up any kind of panic".

Meanwhile, frenzied relatives thronged several of the city hospital where the victims of last evening's serial blasts lay admitted.

An international seminar on terrorism beginning in Delhi on Monday will provide an opportunity to India to interact with over a dozen countries, including Pakistan and Bangladesh, on issues related to the menace as well as militancy.
The two-day deliberations, to be inaugurated by Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil, will include presentations on terrorism in South Asia and its neighbourhood and on extremism and insurgency in South East Asia.

A panel discussion on the Indian experience in counter-terrorism policing will be held on the second day of the meet.

National Security Adviser (NSA) M K Narayanan will deliver the keynote address at the seminar organised by the Asia-Pacific chapter of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP). India presently chairs the Asia Pacific World Regional Office of the IACP.

Apart from the IACP president Ronald C Ruecker, the meet will be attended by foreign delegates from 13 countries in the Asia Pacific region, an official release said.

IACP is the world's largest organisation of police officials with a membership of around 20,000 spread across over 90 countries.

In London.highligting the need for launching 'a new dialogue' to tackle terrorism, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has said he would seek an international conference on the issue at the UN General Assembly later this month.

"Whatever medicine we've been using it hasn't ended the poison, it's made it worse," Zardari was quoted as saying by 'The Sunday Times' ahead of his visit here beginning on Sunday.

It was earlier supposed to be a private visit to take his Daughter Bakhtawar to Edinburgh University to begin her degree court. But now, he will hold meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Foreign Secretary David Miliband.

Zardari told the newspaper recently that he felt Pakistan was being blamed for NATO's failure in Afghanistan. "Okay, we're really bad and done everything wrong this side of the border, but has NATO been able to control the situation with all its soldiers or come up with a proper Afghan army as yet?" "I'm not pointing fingers, just saying we've all come short of expectations," he was quoted as saying.

At the UN General Assembly later this month in New York, Zardari said he would call for an international conference on the issue.

Zardari said "if the problem was two on a scale of one to ten, now it's nine. I'm proposing to the world that we players should all get together and start a new dialogue. There needs to be trust."

Meanwhile, claiming ‘vital’ leads in the serial blasts that left 24 dead, Delhi Police has detained six suspects amid clear indications of a similarity with the Ahmedabad blasts in July for which SIMI has been suspected. Sources in the investigation agencies said that two people have been picked from the walled city and two more from Okhla. The suspects, believed to have links with banned SIMI outfit, were being questioned by joint teams of central security agencies and police. While two more were also being quizzed, two others detained from Barakhamba Road have been released, they said.

Indian Mujahideen on Saturday claimed responsibility of the serial blasts that killed at least five people in the national capital.
In an e-mail sent to media houses, the outfit that had earlier also claimed the Jaipur and Ahmedabad blasts, said, ‘Indian Mujahideen strikes back once more.’

"Within 5 minutes from now. This time with the Message of Death, dreadfully terrorising you for your sins," the chilling note said.

"And thus our promise will be fulfilled. Inshallah," it read. The outfit also threw a challenge to the security agencies, saying "do whatever you want and stop us if you can," the mail which came from 'Arbi Hindi', with the e-mail ID of al_arbi_delhi@yahoo.com, said.

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Delhi Police spokesman Rajan Bhagat said "we have got vital leads" but declined to give details saying "we will solve the case soon".

Initial probe pointed to a group belonging to Western Uttar Pradesh behind the five coordinated blasts at Gaffar Market in Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash.

Police teams have been sent to neighbouring UP and Rajasthan. They said the role of Mumbai-resident Mohammed Subhan Quereshi, suspected SIMI activist, was being probed. Police believe that he could have hacked the WiFI system in Mumbai to send the terror e-mail to various media houses.

Strong similarities were found between the Delhi blasts and the serial explosions in Ahmedabad on July 26 that left 53 dead. Indian Mujahideen, a shadow amalgam of banned SIMI and Lashker-e-Taiba, claimed responsibility for the blasts through an e-mail sent to news organisations around the same time when the explosions occurred.

Sketches of suspected bombers were being drawn by the Delhi Police with the help of five eye-witnesses including a teenage balloon seller, who claimed to have seen them placing packets in the dustbins at Central Park in Connaught Place.
With the serial bomb blasts in Delhi coming on the eve of Ganpati visarjan, perhaps the financial capital’s biggest annual event, the challenge of providing security to Sunday’s immersions came under fresh focus today as Maharashtra Police sounded an alert minutes after the bombings in the national capital.

Expreesindia reports: Vigil was stepped up across Mumbai and traffic slowed down as vehicles were checked on arterial roads. Particular attention was being given to areas near the immersion sites. “We will be conducting many security checks tomorrow across the city and we request citizens to be patient and bear with us and co-operate when such checks take place,” Mumbai Police Commissioner Hassan Gafoor told Newsline.

Officials said that a total of 20,000 policemen and women would be guarding the streets of Mumbai on Sunday along with 1,600 traffic policemen besides units from the National Security Guard (NSG) and bomb detection and disposal teams.

Gafoor said that Mumbai Police has been regularly sensitising Ganpati mandal committees on security arrangements and a detailed security plan had been made for the city for the immersion day this year. “The field officers have been briefed on the screening and the checks to be conducted at various sensitive places. We will also have our anti-sabotage teams across the city and their priority also includes checking vehicles in which idols will be taken for immersion,” he said.

“The traffic wing has also been asked to ensure that vehicles are not parked at sensitive places or at crowded junctions. The other teams already on the streets and in sensitive areas are men from the state CID and Bomb Detection and Disposal Squad and Home Guards.”

Mumbai Police have erected five control rooms and 37 watch towers across the city to control traffic on Sunday. They have also installed 81 CCTV cameras along important visarjan routes, four of them on the Lalbaugcha Raja route alone. Main roads leading to the immersion sites of Girgaum Chowpatty, Dadar Chowpatty, Juhu Beach and Versova will remain closed for traffic.

Cars without Ganesh idols will not be allowed to enter beaches and firecrackers will not be allowed.

US Muslim group condemns Delhi blasts
14 Sep, 2008, 0707 hrs IST, PTI

WASHINGTON: An Indian-American Muslim advocacy group has strongly condemned the serial blasts in New Delhi in which nearly 20 people were killed and scores of others were injured.

The Indian Muslim Council of USA, in a statement said, "We denounce these bomb blasts in the strongest possible terms and express our condolences to the victims and their loved ones."

"Our sympathies are with the victims and their families," said IMC-USA President Rasheed Ahmed. The group has demanded a "through and transparent" investigation into the incident to ensure that its culprits are brought to the book.

Five synchronised blasts took place in New Delhi last evening. A terrorist group called Indian Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the blasts.

India wakes up to cybercrime after terror strikes
14 Sep, 2008, 1803 hrs IST, AGENCIES

NEW DELHI: India needs to be more aware of cybercrime, experts said on Sunday, after extremists again apparently hacked in to an Internet connection to claim responsibility for a new round of deadly bomb attacks.

"Ninety-nine percent of people don't know how to secure their wireless connection, even big companies," Neeraj Kumar, New Delhi sales director of US web security firm BluePrint Data, said. The threat was highlighted after an email claiming explosions that killed 20 people in the Indian capital on Saturday was traced to an electronics firm in an eastern Mumbai suburb.

Mumbai police's anti-terrorism squad said the company's wireless network was unsecured and had been hacked - the third time in as many months they have had to deal with the problem in connection with extremists. One email sent before blasts in the western city of Ahmedabad in July originated from the hacked wireless connection of a US national working in Mumbai. He was later cleared of any involvement.

Another email threatening police was linked back to a college in the city. "Wireless has a range of about 40 metres. You don't know who is within 40 metres and what their motive is," said Kumar.

But too few people in the country knew how to secure access to their network by allowing only registered users and named computers to use it, or knew that software was available to foil unwarranted hackers, he added. Indian interior minister Shivraj Patil has described cybercrime as a major threat to national security. But the country lags behind others in legislation and prosecuting offenders.

As such, Kumar said the onus should be on Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to make people aware of the dangers. "ISPs have to do more to alert their customers," he added.

The wife of Mumbai businessman K.M. Kamath, whose Internet Protocol (IP) address was accessed by the Indian Mujahideen to claim the latest attacks, said she had learnt the hard way. The leaders of the Indian Mujahideen are said to be a tech-savvy jihadi from Mumbai and a computer graphic designer from Vadodara, in Gujarat state, according to press reports here.

"Hacking has become a terror for common citizens like us," Sarika Kamath was quoted as saying on Sunday. "We are innocent and hard-working people.

"We did not feel the need to secure or password-protect our Internet connection. But now it has become a necessity for all citizens to secure their connections."


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: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Optimus November 26, 2008, 04:42:02 PM
Witness says gunmen in India appeared to target Britons, Americans
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November 26, 2008 15:44 EST


MUMBAI, India (AP) -- An eyewitness says gunmen who carrying out a series of attack in Mumbai, India, appear to have been targeting British and U.S. nationals and may be holding hostages.

The motive for the attacks was not immediately clear, but the city has frequently been targeted in terror attacks blamed on Muslim militants.

Teams of gunmen stormed two of the city's best known luxury hotels and a landmark restaurant. A British restaurant-goer at one of the hotels told Sky News television that the attackers were singling out Britons and Americans.

Alex Chamberlain say one young gunman ushered 30 or 40 people from the restaurant into a stairway and ordered everyone to put up their hands. The gunman then asked one man where he was from, and when he said "Italy," the gunman said "fine."

Chamberlain managed to slip away from the group as they were forced to walk up the stairs, but says most were still being kept hostage.

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: Dok November 26, 2008, 04:42:13 PM
Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 900 injured

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_900_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 04:43:18 PM
Deccan Mujahideen is a f**king CIA front group.

Before today no such group ever existed.

The media just f**king created it out of the blue.

How could an unknown group bring a whole city to its knees along with killing such high priority targets?

This is an international conglomerate of black ops trained mercenaries used to justify some geo-political bullshit.

These poor people trapped in the city are pawns in this.

Yes, absolutely true.  This is "Deccan Mu.'s" virgin attack.  If Langley was smart, they would have picked a well know hated group in India like SIMI--but that would make it extremely difficult for them to infiltrate them (so they have to use one of their own).  Muslim or whatever--they're all Indians ... and just ask yourself one question:  why oh why would they start killing white people (tourists) (and other Indians too) at this scale?

Maybe take a family vacationing in India hostage or something, but this is like some kind of Indian 9/11 (at least it looks to be so on the boob-tube).
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: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
the Deccan plateau is in southern India and is where Bangalore is situated,
unless there are two deccan plateaus

very bizarrely,

once BBC News 24 (domestic channel0 started reported 900 wounded and 16 groups of gunmen they suddenly switched to BBc World (overseas channel) whihc is still reporting old enws

given that both Times of India and Hindustan Times are reporting 900 wounded it is reasonable to say 900 people have been wounded

so why switch to the foreign news service half way through BBC coverage

perhaps they prefer to play down the truth in some way


 There probably is 2 Deccans, but if the military machine has its way, they will opt for the Pakistani derivative since it carries TONS more political impact. Plus, it reinforces the Osama ties...
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 04:45:55 PM
listen i have a good friend that lived in Pakistan till he was about 15. He says the Indians and Pakistani people in most areas HATE each other. he told me a story about how the Indians invaded a Pakistani area of Kashmir, Pakistan retaliated by sending a mass of troops. the U.S. President flew in and said they would both disarm and retreat, then the Indians murdered all the Pakistani soldiers as they were retreating.

This in an area that will be VERY easy to create a war in and considering the population density and nuclear arsenals there is an extreme risk here.
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 04:49:09 PM
Huge smoke coming from hotel.
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 04:50:27 PM
Big fire now in hotel.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:50:59 PM
WAKE UP!

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE Deccan Mujahideen!

IT HAS BEEN INVENTED TODAY!

FOX reported that the "terrorists" spoke perfect English as they demanded to see the passports of all English looking tourists.

Wow an unknown terrorist group speaks perfect English and brings a city to its knees after 7 years of the BS GWoT!

You cannot make this shit up!
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 04:53:48 PM
lots of explosions and smoke...
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: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 04:54:37 PM

This in an area that will be VERY easy to create a war in and considering the population density and nuclear arsenals there is an extreme risk here.

 You're right. We can probably expect a presidential or PR to make a statement condemning attacks and assure that no US military will be directly involved. But bet your ass the UN/NATO stormtroopers will be there to 'restore order'.

I truly feel for those slaughtered innocents, and it pisses me off to know WHY they were.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:54:47 PM
FOX NEWS has a reporter saying in September that this group issued a warning.

THERE IS NO INFORMATION ON THIS GROUP EXCEPT IN THE PAST 30 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now there are pundits claiming this group has been around for years and has a huge amount of power all throughout India.

WTF?

This is 9/11 reporting all over again!

OBL/Al-Qaeda is replaced with Deccan Mujahideen!
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 04:55:58 PM
Their goal is to make the U.S. population beleive their neighbor is the enemy like McCarthyism with the Commies, it's happened before and ended but this time they want to make it a million man spy brigade for this purpose.
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 04:56:15 PM
They are saying the Hotel is a 'landmark' and a 'symbol' of India's tradition. Sound familiar?
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: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 04:57:48 PM
WAKE UP!

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE Deccan Mujahideen!

IT HAS BEEN INVENTED TODAY!


 I agree with you 100%. They exist as much as AlQieda does.... But I'm sure this will have heavy Pakistani implications. Now Obama has BIG reasons for war...
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 04:59:10 PM
FOX NEWS has a reporter saying in September that this group issued a warning.

THERE IS NO INFORMATION ON THIS GROUP EXCEPT IN THE PAST 30 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now there are pundits claiming this group has been around for years and has a huge amount of power all throughout India.

WTF?

This is 9/11 reporting all over again!

OBL/Al-Qaeda is replaced with Deccan Mujahideen!

This is the warning talked about!

They are the Indian Mujahideen not Deccan Mujahideen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WARNING FROM SEPTEMBER

Next Mumbai: Indian Mujahideen
Monday, September 15, 2008
http://www.deccanherald.com/CONTENT/Sep152008/scroll2008091590090.asp?section=frontpagenews
Deccan Times (newspaper-wonder if the story was planted, someone check the html code, maybe there is evidence of tampering)



The Indian Mujahideen, which has claimed responsibility for the Delhi, Ahmedabad, Bangalore and Jaipur blasts killing at least 130 people in a span of four months, has now threatened to carry out attacks in Mumbai, report Agencies.

Accusing Mumbai Police’s ATS of harassing Muslims, Indian Mujahideen said in its email that it was closely watching the ATS.

“You should know that your acts are not at all left unnoticed; rather we are closely keeping an eye on you and just waiting for the right time to execute your bloodshed. We are aware of your recent raids at Ansarnagar, Mograpada in Andheri and the harassment and trouble you created there for the Muslims,” the group said in the email they sent to various media houses on Saturday evening.

“You threatened to murder them and your mischief went to such an extent that you even dared to abuse and insult Maulana Mahmood-ul-Hasan Qasmi and even misbehaved with the Muslim women and children there,” the email said.

“If this is the degree your arrogance has reached, and if you think that by these stunts you can scare us, then let the Indian Mujahideen warn all the people of Mumbai that whatever deadly attacks Mumbaikars will face in future, their responsibility would lie with the Mumbai ATS and their guardians – Vilasrao Deshmukh and R R Patil,” the email said. “You are already on our hit-list and this time very very seriously.”


The terror outfit also threatened to target a senior Rajasthan police official. “All the Mujahideen who shook Jaipur are absolutely safe and secure, and are preparing for our next targets, one of which is A K Jain – the DIG of Rajasthan,” claimed Indian Mujahideen.

Jain has been instrumental in arresting several SIMI members in Rajasthan in connection with the May 13 serial blasts in Jaipur. The mail bears two signatures at the end – Guru Alhindi and al-Arbi.
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: Dok November 26, 2008, 04:59:13 PM
Indian Mujahideen
The Islamic militant group Indian Mujahdeen was listed as one of the possible perpetrators of the terrorist attacks on the city of Mumbai that killed an estimated 80 and wounded another 900 people on November 26, 2008. A previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen sent an email to several news organizations, claiming responsibility for the attacks.1

Fast Facts
The Indian Mujahideen claimed responsibility for a series of bombings that killed at least 130 people between May and September of 20082
The group is believed by some to be either a branch of or a front for the now-banned Students Islamic Movement (SIMI)1 3
Threats
In September of 2008, Indian Mujahideen sent an email to Indian police agencies, condemning the actions of the Mumbai Police's ATS and accusing law enforcement of unfairly targeting Muslims. The message strongly implied that the group was planning some sort of attack on the city of Mumbai and its law enforcement officers, some of whom were specifically named:


"We are closely keeping an eye on you (the ATS) and just waiting for the right time to execute your bloodshed."


"...let the Indian Mujahideen warn all the people of Mumbai that whatever deadly attacks Mumbaikars will face in future, their responsibility would lie with the Mumbai ATS and their guardians -- Vilasrao Deshmukh and R R Patil. You are already on our hit-list and this time very very seriously."2

http://www.mahalo.com/Indian_Mujahideen
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 05:01:30 PM
Deccan Mujahideen claims Mumbai attacks


Another little-known Islamic group, the Islamic Security Force-Indian Mujahedeen, had claimed responsibility for serial blasts last month in Assam that claimed nearly 80 lives.

Six weeks earlier, New Delhi had been hit by a series of bombs in crowded markets that left more than 20 dead. Those blasts were claimed by a group calling itself the Indian Mujahedeen.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Deccan_Mujahideen_claims_Mumbai_attacks_/articleshow/3762006.cms
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 05:02:15 PM
Is Hindu right wing behind Indian Mujahideen, ask Muslim groups
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/is-hindu-right-wing-behind-indian-mujahideen-ask-muslim-groups_10096947.html
September 17th, 2008 - 9:56 pm ICT by IANS -


Mumbai, Sep 17 (IANS) Terming the Indian Mujahideen, which has claimed responsibility for the serial blasts in Ahmedabad and New Delhi, as fictitious, several Muslim organisations and clerics have demanded investigations into the possible role of the Hindu right wing in the terror attacks.In a statement issued here Wednesday evening, 21 Muslim organisations challenged Indian Mujahideen leaders to come out in the open and prove their actions.

“We hereby challenge the so-called IM to come out in the open and prove that they are representatives and spokesmen for the Ummah, and justify their actions point by point, or else it will be eventually surmised that they are non-persons and nothing but a figment of the Sangh Parivar’s unscrupulous imagination, brought into the collective psyche of all Indians by the grand alliance of Mossad and their protagonists in the country,” the statement said.

The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and organisations ideologically affiliated with it are collectively known as the Sangh Parivar.

Justifying the contention, Sarfaraz Arzoo, member of the All India Milli Council and prominent Urdu media personality, said: “We have to look into the issue as to who gains political mileage out of it (the blasts). Definitely, it is the Sangh Parivar which is getting mileage and hence the needle of suspicion points towards Sangh Parivar.”

Muslim cleric Maulana Hafiz Syed Athar Ali argued that there is nothing like the Indian Mujahideen. He said that the Muslims were blamed earlier for terror attacks in the name of the banned Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and now a new name has come up.

“Our religious sentiments are being hurt. Examine the role of others, the saffron organisations, the Mossad and the CIA,” said Ali, president of All India Ulemas Council.

He added that soon after the July 26 Ahmedabad serial blasts, US national Kenneth Haywood came under the scanner, but his passport was not impounded. He managed to go to the US despite a look-out notice against him and “he returned after destroying evidence,” Ali added.

Minutes before the Ahmedabad blasts, a threat mail had been sent to media organisations in the name of the Indian Mujahideen. it was soon found that the mail was sent using Haywood’s Wi-Fi internet connection.

The joint statement added that the serial blasts have resulted in “progressive polarization” of Indian society and hastened the speed of marginalisation of the Muslim community which eventually will result in rich dividends for the Sangh Parivar, the “sole beneficiaries”.

“This is something they (Sangh Parivar) have always dreamt of but never successfully achieved. With Indian Mujahideen in their kitty, their tough job is getting easier by the day,” according to the statement.

“The Muslims in India cannot continue to be silent spectators and are ready to play a historic role in the rejuvenation and revitalization of Indian ethos. The recent flow of events cannot succeed in forcing us to abdicate our responsibilities,” it said.
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: Suriel November 26, 2008, 05:02:36 PM
I find it very interesting that this hapens in the same day that CNN has a headline story on how Gates is to stay at the DoD for at least a year during the Obama amin.  But then again I could be reading to much into it.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 05:05:51 PM
Paul was right...

Monday, July 28, 2008
Indian Mujahideen a cover for international groups
VK Shashikumar / CNN-IBN

COVERING UP? Experts say Indian Mujahideen is a cover to deflect attention from internation terrror outfits.
http://blog.akhandbharti.com/2008/07/indian-mujahideen-cover-for.html

New Delhi: November 23, 2007: Serial blasts in Varanasi, Faizabad and Lucknow killed 13 people. A mail was sent from the email ID guru_alhindi@yahoo.fr indicating the involvement of an unknown terror group called the Indian Mujhaideen. The email was sent to a private news channel just minutes before the blast.

May 8, 2008: Serial bombing in Jaipur City killed 63 people. A day after, an email was recieved from guru_alhindi_jaipur@yahoo.co.uk which too pointed to the involvement of Indian Mujhaideen.

July 26, 2008: 18 serial blasts in Ahmedabad killed 46 people and once again, a familiar name is doing the rounds through an email sent minutes before the blasts from the email ID, alarbi_gujarat@yahoo.com.

The Indian Mujhaideen has also claimed responsiblity for the Ahmedabad blasts, but is it a real organisation or just a name being used to deflect attention from internation terrror outfits?

Union Home Minister Sri Prakash Jaiswal says, "The idea is to disturb peace. The name of Indian Mujhaideen has cropped up earlier too, but it's just a cover organisation."

Intelligence officials say that the Indian Mujhaideen is just a front to deflect attention from international terror groups as well as an effort to show that terrorism in India is now home grown and localised.

Former RAW Official Colonel RSN Singh says, "Be it HUJI, or the HUm or the Indian Mujhaideen, they are all the same. There is a lot of coordination between them and they work with the help of local people."

According to intelligence sources different sleeper cells are doing different tasks. One purchases materials required in making explosives, while the other manufactures the bombs and a third group is involved in doing a recce of the location and placing the bombs in pre-determined locations.

Intelligence sources have informed CNN-IBN that the 408 Detachment of ISI based in Karachi - which oversees terror operations in Maharashtra, Goa and Gujarat - is behind the floating of Indian Mujhaideen.

So, while local terror agents did the job, the planning and nerve control may have happened from the 408 Detachment of ISI in Karachi.
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 05:07:00 PM
They are saying the Hotel is a 'landmark' and a 'symbol' of India's tradition. Sound familiar?

Yep--the Oberoi Hotel chain and "The Taj" are huge.  Other than the Taj Mahal, the "Taj Hotel" is one of the most photographed building in Bombay, if not all of India.  Makes for GREAT threater.  (They're 5 star by international standards--haven for rich toursist visiting India)

Sane,

Is it true that CNN is reporting that European officials were in one of those hotels, and about 10 minutes before the attack, they all were removed quickly?
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 05:08:03 PM
Indian Mujahideen media cell busted, 3 held: Cops
http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29681
6 Oct 2008, 2158 hrs IST , PTI

Mumbai Police claimed to have arrested three people, two of them engineers, in connection with sending threatening e-mails for Indian Mujahideen before the blasts.

MUMBAI: Mumbai Police claimed to have arrested three people, two of them engineers, in connection with sending threatening e-mails for Indian Mujahideen (IM). The cops claimed to have busted the media cell of the terror group suspected to be behind a string of bomb blasts since 2005. ( Watch )

The members of the IM's media cell, arrested from Pune, were identified as Mohammed Mansoor Asghar Peerbhoy (31), Mobin Kader Shaikh (24) and Asif Bashruddin Shaikh (22).

Peerbhoy was working in an MNC as a principal software engineer, Mubin was employed in an IT firm as a senior technical advisor and Asif was a mechanical engineer by education, police said.

Threatening e-mails were sent to media organisations prior to the July 26 Ahmedabad and September 13 Delhi serial blasts from unsecured wireless Internet connections in Navi Mumbai and Mumbai respectively. Another email was sent from a wireless internet connection at a college in Central Mumbai.

"Prior to the Ahmedabad blasts, they had come to the city to find wireless Internet connections and went to locations like Sanpada in Navi Mumbai, Chembur, Sion and Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus," Joint Commissioner of Police (Crime) Rakesh Maria said on Monday.

On July 26, the trio left Pune at 0900 hours and went to Sanpada from where they sent the e-mail using the unsecured Internet connection of American national Kenneth Heywood at 1840 hours, just before the blasts in Ahmedabad, in accordance with the orders given to them, he said.

"They sat in the car in which they came and sent the e-mail after which they left," Maria said.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 05:09:41 PM
More on how this will lead to the Obama/Pakistan agenda...

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MzIzNDIwNDQ2
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: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 05:11:57 PM
Time for a flashback guys. Indian military personnel involved in terror attacks that were blamed on muslims:
http://news.indiainfo.com/2008/11/15/0811152130_radical_hindu_terror_plot_unsolved_bombings.html
Radical Hindu terror plot in unsolved bombings?
Saturday, November 15, 2008 21:26 [IST]

New Delhi: More arrests are expected in the coming weeks as the frightening dimensions of a radical Hindu terror plot start to unravel, with investigators indicating that it had the makings of a larger conspiracy and planning of reprisal killings of Muslims for serial bombings in a number of Indian cities.

Ten people, including a self-proclaimed Hindu seer and a serving lieutenant colonel, have so far been arrested for the Sep 29 bombing in a Muslim-dominated neighbourhood in the small Maharashtra town of Malegaon that killed five people. Investigators are now examining if a Hindu terror conspiracy was involved in several other blasts - like the one of the Samjhauta Express train in 2007 - that have till date remained unsolved.

The Anti-Terrorism Squads (ATS) arrest of Mahant Amritanand Dev alias Dayanand Pandey, the self-styled pontiff from Kanpur, which investigators say is a "prize catch", has already revealed that it was under his instructions that Lt. Colonel Shrikant Purohit procured RDX from an army depot that was used in the Malegaon blast.

"Pandey was present in all the pre-blast meetings in Bhopal, Jabalpur and Faridabad, monitored operations meticulously and was also responsible for arranging the finances that came in through illegal channels," an ATS source said.

Investigators are now questioning the suspects on the May 2007 blast at Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad, the attack on the Samjhauta Express train between India and Pakistan in February 2007 and the April 2006 twin blasts at New Delhis Jama Masjid.

"Not much headway has been made into the investigations in these attacks. We need to examine if a similar radical Hindu fringe could have been behind these bombings and that is under the scanner now," said a senior intelligence official, who could not be named because of the sensitivity of his position.

"We could see more arrests in the coming days but that will depend on whether we can get sufficient evidence."

It is believed that Pandey, a dropout from the National Defence Academy, was in touch with two other accused who are on the run - Ramji Kalsangara, who allegedly planted the motorcycle owned by the Hindu ascetic Pragya Singh Thakur in Malegaon, and Sameer Dange.

In the Mecca Masjid blasts as many as 14 people were killed and over 50 injured. The case was investigated by the city police special wing and was later handed over to the Central Bureau of Investigation which could not come to any conclusion. There were some remote indications of Bangladesh-based terror outfit Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islamis involvement.

Investigations into the Samjhauta Express explosion, in which at least 68 people were killed, and the Jama Masjid blast also failed to make headway and police could not across on any tangible leads.

Police have already established a strong link between Pandey and some of the suspects in the Kanpur blast case through surveillance - on Aug 24,two members of the right-wing Bajrang Dal were killed there while assembling bombs.

"With his (Pandey) arrest we will now get to the bottom of this case and see if there are linkages as well in the 2006 Nanded blasts in Maharashtra," said a senior police official.

Unearthing this terror network has indicated a major course correction for police, who had blamed Islamic terrorists for a wave of bombings that have killed more than 145 people targeting cities like Delhi, Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Jaipur this year.

The arrests have reinforced growing suspicions over the last few years of a potential threat from Hindu extremists.

Why am I posted this now? Here's why:
http://www.itexaminer.com/hundreds-dead-as-blasts-rock-mumbai.aspx

A series of bomb blasts and shootings are now rocking Mumbai. The attacks are centred on the city's international hotels as well as transport hubs, including the domestic and international airports.

In the last few minutes, a second bomb has exploded at the Taj Mahal, although this may have been a controlled explosion, and the army has entered both the Taj and the Oberoi. One MP is reorted dead at the Taj, with two more believed to be still inside.

Taj Mahal, Mumbai

Hostages are being held at at least two hotels, with the terrorists said to be "looking for anyone with a British or American passport". An EU trade delegation was staying at the Taj.

Hospitals have reported receiving 80 bodies and more than 900 are believed to have been injured. MP Krishna Das, additional commissioner Ashok Kamte and the chief of the Mumbai anti-terrorism squad, Hemant Karkare, are amongst those killed, along with seven policemen.

Nine suspects have been arrested. Police earlier suggested that Fidayeen Islamic terrorists are responsible, but media have received a statement frm a previously unknown group called Deccam Mujihideen claiming responsibility. At least 24 terrorists are believed to be still at large. However, Hindu extremists are also reported to have been arrested.

The terrorists opened fire in one of Mumbai's smartest hotels - the Oberoi - at 22.45 local time, leaving seven dead and 25 injured. Navy commandos are now entering the hotel. In a bombing at the Taj Mahal hotel (pictured), MP Krishna Das and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar were killed, and 15 people, seven of them foreigners, are reported to be being held hostage there. The top floor is on fire.

Nearby, a boatload of explosives is believe to have exploded. The police have called in the army and National Security Guard for help, and the Maharashta chief minister, who is on his way to the city from Kerala, has asked New Delhi for more assistance.

There has also been an explosion at the Trident Hotel, where more hostages are being held, and two more blasts were reported at Mazgaon and BPT Colony at  00:15 hours. Terrorists are believed to have hijacked a police van, as unidentified firing from a van was witnessed, injuring one person. A VP petrol pump near the Colaba district was blown up, as was the Metro Cinema hall, with one bomb exploding inside a taxi near Vile Parle, just a kilometre away from the airport.

Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A K Sharma said that terrorists armed with AK-47 rifles and grenades entered the passenger hall of a crowed Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal (CST) railway station and opened fire, as well as throwing a grenade which killed two or three people and injured at least 10, including a policeman. Gunfire was also reported at the nearby JJ school of architecture at 23.49 hours, and both CST and Dadar stations have been evacuated, putting  the international and domestic airports on high alert. A taxi containing explosives has been stopped on the Western Express highway, which leads to the airport. Firing has been reported in the Borivali district, and Cama Hospital - a womens' and childrens' hospital - is the scene of an ongoing attack.

According to sources, Gujurat police warned Mumbai police that as many as 50 terrorists had infiltrated the city.

Firing was reported at Colaba, Nariman House, and Café Leopold - an area which attracts a lot of foreign tourists. There are reports of  firing at the Mariott hotel in Juhu, where two terrorists were shot after a long chase and several rounds of firing, and casualties were taken to a nearby hospital. Some people were injured in the firing near the Oberoi hotel and were taken to hospital in police vans and ambulances.

Ministers have asked locals to stay put till the situation gets under control. X

Remember, you'll probably never hear about the arrested Hindu extremists again. Just like you never heard about the folks arrested on the George Washingtom bridge again.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 05:13:30 PM
FOX is reporting connection to Al-Qaeda
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: JTCoyoté November 26, 2008, 05:13:51 PM
Deccan Mujahideen is a f**king CIA front group.

Before today no such group ever existed.

The media just f**king created it out of the blue.

How could an unknown group bring a whole city to its knees along with killing such high priority targets?

This is an international conglomerate of black ops trained mercenaries used to justify some geo-political bullshit.

These poor people trapped in the city are pawns in this.

Just like the money... right out of thin air...

...and the sheeple will think it's real... a carnival ride brought to you by ALCIADUH/MKULTRA.

...YEE-HAWW...!!
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: Anti_Illuminati November 26, 2008, 05:14:18 PM
WAKE UP!

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE Deccan Mujahideen!

IT HAS BEEN INVENTED TODAY!

FOX reported that the "terrorists" spoke perfect English as they demanded to see the passports of all English looking tourists.

Wow an unknown terrorist group speaks perfect English and brings a city to its knees after 7 years of the BS GWoT!

You cannot make this shit up!

Yup, and btw the MOMENT I saw this on CNN I knew it was an insdie job.  Remember AJ has said (and this isn't his opinion) that:  "real terror is kept QUIET."  Like you had said the reasons why it was not fully coordinated across all the Psy-ops networks is because for whatever reason they didn't have their spin machine set to go yet (over simplifying obviously.)  Check this stuff out:

http://www.huliq.com/31971/eu-presidency-statement-on-acts-of-terrorism-in-india

"EU Presidency Statement on acts of terrorism in India

The EU Presidency condemns the terrorist attacks in India on 25 August, at an open-air auditorium and a restaurant, which killed a large number of civilians and wounded many more.

The Presidency conveys its deepest sympathy and condolences to the families of the victims and wishes a speedy recovery to those who have been injured in these atrocities.

These attacks clearly demonstrate that terrorism is a serious threat to all States and to all peoples. It poses a serious threat to our security and to the values of our democratic societies. No cause, no grievance, can justify acts of terrorism. -Presidency of the European Union"
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http://www.huliq.com/42806/series-explosions-shake-indian-courthouses
Series of explosions shake Indian courthouses

"At least 13 lawyers were killed and dozens more were injured in near-simultaneous explosions that ripped through courthouse complexes in three north Indian cities.

Federal authorities blamed militants trying to spark unrest between India's Hindu majority and Muslim minority, though a legal group noted all the blasts came in a state where lawyers had decided not to defend terrorism suspects.  --WTF?

At least nine lawyers were killed and 45 more people were injured in three explosions in Varanasi, one of Hinduism's holiest cities, said Mayawati, the top elected official of Uttar Pradesh state, where all three cities are located. She uses only one name.

At least two of those bombs were attached to bicycles, police said.

In Faizabad, a pair of bombs killed four lawyers and injured about 14 others, Mayawati told reporters in Lucknow, the state capital. One of the bombs was rigged to a motorcycle,[/b] said R.N. Singh, a local police officer. Faizabad is near the town of Ayodhya, where Hindu extremists destroyed the 16th century Babri Mosque in 1992, sparking widespread Hindu-Muslim riots.

Most of the injured were lawyers, officials said.

There was one explosion in Lucknow but no reports of deaths or injuries there.

Mayawati criticized federal intelligence agencies for failing to anticipate the attacks. "There was no warning to us from the federal government," she said.  

Vipin Mishra, spokesman for the state's Home Ministry, said the blasts went off less than 15 minutes apart inside court complexes.

B.K. Saksena, a lawyer in Lucknow who escaped unhurt, said proceedings were halted for the day after the explosion there.

"It was lunchtime and most lawyers were standing outside (the courtrooms). When the explosion happened, there was utter panic and people were running everywhere," Saksena said.

Indian court complexes are crowded, chaotic places, with lawyers often setting up small outdoor "offices" in makeshift, open-walled shacks built in courtyards. Many of the bombs apparently went off in such courtyards.

"It's a conspiracy ... this is the handiwork of some group that wants to disturb communal harmony in the country," the junior federal home minister, Sriprakash Jaiswal, told reporters. "They may have targeted the courts because large crowds gather in courthouses here."

But Padam Kriti, a spokesman of the Uttar Pradesh Bar Association, said the state's lawyers had decided earlier this year not to defend any terror suspects, and "it looks like" that decision may have been behind blasts.


Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who was attending a summit of Commonwealth leaders in Uganda, issued a statement condemning the blasts and expressing sympathy to the victims.

In New Delhi, the U.S. Embassy also condemned the attacks.

"Such acts strengthen the resolve of all well-intentioned people, including India's friends in the international community, to defeat terror and build peace based on the rule of law," it said in a statement.

A series of terrorist bombings have ripped across India in the past two years. In August, a pair of explosions killed 43 people in the southern city of Hyderabad. In July 2006, bombs in seven Mumbai commuter trains killed more than 200 people.

Lal Krishna Advani, the leader of the opposition Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, said in India's Parliament that "the attacks were an intelligence failure." Pravda.ru"
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Police defuse six bombs found in Andheri Mumbai India

India's financial capital the hub of film industry Mumbai was with bombing news when its people were welcoming the cricketing heroes at Wankhede Stadium.

Indian police have arrested two people carrying six crude bombs near the Andheri suburb of Mumbai, a train station in Mumbai just before the victorious Indian cricket team motorcade was to pass through this route.

Six crude bombs were immediately defused as per the reports of Anti Terrorist Squad {ATS} Chief Krishnpal Raghuvanshi.The offiicial decribe it as crude bomb of low intensity, country made ones and is not the work of terrorists as per Preliminary investigation.

Police have arrested two person in this catch A tip-off on Tuesday night,Police detained Rajeev singh from bus stop near a train station in Andheri and allegedly on his search found six crude bombs inside from his bag, subsequently arrested along with another man.

The further investigation by the Police are on to know the gambit of this country made crude bombs recovered which is likely to be prepared for some group whose name is yet to be revealed.

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: Dig November 26, 2008, 05:15:48 PM
People need to be aware of how these covert operations work.

Few western black ops with few dozen "homegrown" mercenaries.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2818882053570073287

Black Ops Opertative Chip Tatum Interviewed - How to sabotage a region so they pray for US assistance.
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: releasethebonds November 26, 2008, 05:16:21 PM
"gunman in police cars started shooting" WTF?

edit: POLICE CAR HIJACKED! ... with a boxcutter i take it.
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: PplVsNWO November 26, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
Link to photos from Mubai flikr user.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinu (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinu)
Interesting, there are 666 pictures...
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 05:17:23 PM
5 bombs
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 05:21:50 PM
Honchos caught in cross-fire at 5-stars

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Honchos_caught_in_cross-fire_at_5-stars/articleshow/3762020.cms
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 05:26:59 PM
From September...

Killed Indian Mujahideen men provided terror backbone
http://www.hindu.com/2008/09/20/stories/2008092055881200.htm
Saturday, Sep 20, 2008
Praveen Swami

Mohammad Bashir helped teach Gujarat terrorists bomb-making techniques

The three played an important role in organising the serial bombings in New Delhi

They had met Qureshi at least twice in August to discuss future attacks


NEW DELHI: Investigators believe that the three terrorists shot in New Delhi’s Jamia Nagar on Friday were key actors in an Uttar Pradesh-based network which constituted the logistical backbone of the Indian Mujahideen’s nationwide operations.

Police have identified the Indian Mujahideen operatives killed in the shootout as Azamgarh residents Mohammad Bashir and Mohammad Fakruddin. A third man who was injured has been identified as Saif Ahmad, also a resident of Azamgarh.

Police believe the three men, who were located after an Intelligence Bureau-led operation targeting Indian Mujahideen communications, played an important role in organising last weekend’s serial bombings in New Delhi.

Last week, The Hindu had broken news that the three Azamgarh men — whose names were withheld by this newspaper to avoid compromising the investigation — were being sought in connection with the New Delhi bombings.

Investigators had been searching for Bashir ever since the arrest of Sarai Mir-based cleric Abul Bashar Qasmi who, the Gujarat police alleges, had operational command of the terror cell which carried out July’s bombings in Ahmedabad.

According to Gujarat police investigators, Bashir, under the supervision of top Indian Mujahideen commander Mohammad Subhan Qureshi, taught local Indian Mujahideen cadre how to fabricate the improvised explosive devices used in Ahmedabad. Much of the training, police sources say, appears to have been carried out with the help of detailed circuit diagrams which were found in one of the apartments used by the terror cell.

Bashir, the Gujarat police say, also received the stolen vehicles which were used as car-bombs in Ahmedabad — vehicles that are thought to have been acquired by Qureshi who, despite the coordinated efforts of police in five States, is yet to be located.

Late on the afternoon on June 26, Bashir is believed to left Ahmedabad on a New Delhi-bound train. Qureshi — a highly-trained computer specialist who is suspected to have authored e-mail manifestos issued by the Indian Mujahideen after its attacks in Jaipur, Gujarat and New Delhi — is thought to have left Ahmedabad some two hours later.

Based on the phone records of the alleged Indian Mujahideen cadre held in Gujarat, the Intelligence Bureau concluded that Bashir was likely hidden out in safehouses provided by Students Islamic Movement of India sympathisers in the Jamia Nagar and Okhla areas of south-east Delhi. Efforts to locate the safehouses, Delhi Police sources said, were initiated last weekend.

However, the safehouses could only be located when Qasmi was brought to New Delhi and driven around the Jamia Nagar area on Thursday night.
Politics stalled arrests


Qasmi had told Gujarat police investigators that the three Azamgarh men had met with Qureshi at least twice in August to discuss future attacks. New Delhi was chosen as a target during these meetings.

But evidence on the critical role of Uttar Pradesh-based networks in the Indian Mujahideen’s operations had in fact been available ever since early this year, when the names of several of its operatives emerged in the course of investigations into the December 2007, synchronised bombing of trial court buildings at Lucknow, Faizabad and Varanasi.

Police found that Jaunpur based Mohammad Khalid Mujahid and Tariq Kazmi, using explosives provided by Jammu and Kashmir Harkat ul-Jihad-e-Islami commander Bashir Mir, had coordinated the trial court bombings. However, protests broke out after the arrests of the two men, leading the Uttar Pradesh government to order the State police to go slow on operations directed at SIMI.

Among those who thus escaped arrest was Qasmi. Indeed, Qasmi’s SIMI links been known to the Uttar Pradesh police since 2006, when he figured in the interrogation of Mohtasin Billa, an engineering student alleged to have facilitated that year’s serial bombings in Hyderabad. However, Qasmi was only finally held after the Gujarat police obtained a warrant for his arrest early this month. Police officials believe earlier action could have disrupted the networks which carried out the Ahmedabad attacks.

Friday’s shootings, interestingly, again sparked off violence in Azamgarh, where local Samajwadi Party activists claimed the men shot in New Delhi were innocent. Ahmad’s father, Sadab Ahmad, is vice-president of the local unit of the Samajwadi Party. Qasmi’s arrest — which took place after the Gujarat police obtained a judicial warrant, forcing the hand of their Uttar Pradesh counterparts — had had provoked protests in and around Sarai Mir, also spearheaded by local politicians of the Samajwadi Party.
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 05:29:51 PM
amazing how they have every intricate detail of the attack before an investigation is even conducted eh
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: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 05:30:04 PM
French media claims MEP's being held hostage:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemonde.fr%2Fasie-pacifique%2Farticle%2F2008%2F11%2F26%2Fau-moins-seize-morts-dans-des-fusillades-et-explosions-a-bombay_1123575_3216.html%23ens_id%3D1123577&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&sl=fr&tl=en
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 05:33:01 PM
From the above french article:

Shortly before the announcement of the taking of hostages, a witness in this establishment had declared that the perpetrators of the shooting "wanted all those who have British or American passports. They wanted foreigners," he said.

There's your U.S. and British military response.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 05:36:31 PM
Political Destabilization in South and Central Asia: The Role of the CIA-ISI Terror Network
Global Research, September 17, 2008
by Andrew G. Marshall

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10242

[...]
The September 13, 2008 New Delhi Bombings: 9/13/08

The Bombings

On September 13, 2008, five blasts ripped through New Delhi within 45 minutes of each other, killing 21 people and injuring roughly 100 more. The Indian Mujahedin claimed responsibility for the bombings, sending emails to major Indian news organizations. In July, bombings took place in the western state of Gujarat, which killed 45 people, and in May in the city of Jaipur, which killed 61 people. The Indian Mujahedin also claimed responsibility for those attacks. This new wave of attacks across Indian cities was intended to "sow panic, inflict civilian casualties and, according to Indian officials, inflame tensions between Hindus and Muslims."

National elections are also approaching in India, giving the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party the opportunity to criticize "the coalition government led by the Congress Party for its inability to prevent bombings like those of Saturday," making it a "major point of vulnerability for the incumbent administration."[1]

What is the Indian Mujahedin?

According to Indian police, the Indian Mujahedin (IM) is "an offshoot of the banned Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)."[2] In fact, it is "the hardline faction of Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) that broke away in 2005 to protest against the diffidence of the moderate faction about declaring a full-scale war on India."[3] Reports also link the IM with the banned organizations, Harkat-ul-Jihad-e-Islami and Harkat-ul-Mujahedeen.[4]

The Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) has reported ties with the Pakistani ISI, in having had cadres of its members being trained by the ISI to launch terror attacks in India. The ISI is also reported to have maintained contacts with SIMI in relation to their operatives traveling around the Middle East, specifically Saudi Arabia, to engage in fund raising. SIMI’s reorganization was also aided by the ISI, which led to the branching out of the hardline element, the Indian Mujahedin.[5]

Harkat-ul-Jihad-e-Islami also has extensive ties with the ISI, as the group carried out terror attacks in Hyderabad in 2007, "at the instance of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence."[6] Many members of the Harkat-ul-Jihad-e-Islami were trained at ISI camps in Pakistan, and it "receives patronage and support from Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence." Significantly, "the group’s anti-India operations are planned by the ISI, mostly from the Bangladeshi capital Dhaka."[7]

Harkat-ul-Mujahedeen, the third terror network with extensive ties to the Indian Mujahedin, used to be known as the Harkat ul-Ansar. Harkat ul-Ansar was created by then-Pakistani General and future President Musharraf in the early 1990s, and was active in recruiting 200 Pakistanis to be trained by the ISI and sent to fight a jihad in Bosnia, "with the full knowledge and complicity of the British and American intelligence agencies." This group also has links to those individuals associated with financing 9/11, as well as being involved with the London 7/7/ bombings.[8]

So all three terrorist groups associated with creating and having links with the Indian Mujahedin (IM) have extensive ties with the Pakistani ISI. Since these three organizations created the IM, it is essentially a creation of the ISI itself.

Who Benefits?

Two days before the bombings took place, the Times of India ran a story discussing US defense corporations seeking major contracts in India, including "the single largest one-time military contract in history," India’s buying 126 multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA). The deal is said to be worth $10 billion, "which would not be concluded in the term of this government but by the next government." Two major US companies vying for this contract are defense giants Boeing and Lockheed Martin. India’s Defense Minister A.K. Antony said that his recent meetings with US Defense Secretary Robert Gates and other Washington figures were primarily focused on "Pakistan’s rapid descent into chaos and the stepped up terrorist activity by renegade elements in the country, including provocations on the border and in Kashmir."[9]

Two days later, the attacks within India would confirm the need for a built up defense and military establishment within India. Contracts are sure to be signed.

The bombings also occurred at a time that "India is resisting renewed pressure from the West to send its troops into Afghanistan to boost the coalition troops there." More troops are needed in Afghanistan as the Taliban experience a resurgence, armed and financed by Pakistan’s ISI. However, as the Times of India notes, "India is not about to enter this particular cauldron because its troops would fan the flames in a way that no others would do. They would draw fire from Pakistanis and India would be sucked into a battle, which would have huge implications for its internal security."[10] Perhaps this is the idea?

The attacks also occurred just as "the US Congress is considering the approval of the US-India civil nuclear deal and days before [Indian] Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visits Washington."[11]
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: thadividedsky November 26, 2008, 05:37:34 PM
NBC10 here in Rhode Island is really pumping up the propaganda on the events in India. Does Obama have anything to say about India? I know he wants to invade Pakistan, this could be used to start a big war between Pakistan and India to distract the world. From what? Could be a number of things the elite want us distracted from, such as an attack on Iran, the economic system grinding to a halt and so on. I guess the boogieman is being put back in the spotlight.
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: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 05:42:52 PM
Tom Sanderson from CSIS is now on CNN blaming the tribal areas of Pakistan and Al Qaeda.
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 05:44:00 PM
NBC10 here in Rhode Island is really pumping up the propaganda on the events in India. Does Obama have anything to say about India? I know he wants to invade Pakistan, this could be used to start a big war between Pakistan and India to distract the world. From what? Could be a number of things the elite want us distracted from, such as an attack on Iran, the economic system grinding to a halt and so on. I guess the boogieman is being put back in the spotlight.
Bingo - Pakistan is a Chinese ally, they are starting with the other super powers allies and destroying them with plausable deniability and then they will go after the super powers themselves. They want a war between Pakistan and India for numerous reasons, one again because China is a Pakistan Ally, a Distraction for another event and because India has 1.5 Billion people about and that would be where they eliminate population if  they wanted to do so.
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: Anti_Illuminati November 26, 2008, 05:48:06 PM
This is an international conglomerate of black ops trained mercenaries used to justify some geo-political bullshit.

In my gut feeling/analysis, a very significant part of the geo-political bullshit is as follows:

1)  Re-legitimizes that "terror is real" (HEH, IT'S A ANOTHER NEW, MINIATURE 9/11) in the minds of the sheep "hey people DIED (thus "terror is real"-but never mind that we staged it), GIVE UP YOUR DAMN RIGHTS AND SHUT UP ABOUT TRILLIONS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING TO FULLY AUTOMATED DARPA/NRO SURVEILLANCE FLYING DRONES IN THE U.S.

Remember the security lockdown in the U.S. that occurred when benazir Bhutto was assassinated, I heard of them FIRSTHAND.  Something that happens 10,000 miles from the U.S, is 100% guaranteed to be treated as though it happened right here.

Yet again out of the complete blue --how CONVENIENT that BICYCLES get incorporated into their false flags!

"At least two of those bombs were attached to bicycles, police said."

--> THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS HAS AND IS CONTINUING TO PUSH FOR HARDCORE DEMONIZATION OF BICYCLES, FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:

--> YOU CANNOT TRACK THEM, THERE IS NO GPS.

--> NO DRIVERS LICENSE, NOR INSURANCE IS REQUIRED, IT IS NOT A MOTOR VEHICLE.

--> NO LICENSE PLATE IS APPLICABLE, AS ABOVE, ALSO ANOTHER REASON THEY CANNOT BE TRACKED BY THEIR AI CAMERAS.

--> IT PROMOTES FREEDOM BECAUSE IT CAN ABSOLVE YOU OF THE SLAVERY TO FINANCIAL RAPE VIA ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY OF OIL.

--> THEY WILL PROBABLY SAY THAT THE AMOUNT OF CO2 GIVEN OFF FROM THE ACTION OF RIDING A BICYCLE IS > THAN THEIR "ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY CARS", AND THUS HOW DARE YOU DAMAGE THE ENVIRONMENT RIDING ONE.



2)  Fulfills the goal of bullshit as seen in the Denver terror cell museum "A DELICATE BALANCE OF LIBERTY AND SECURITY"  With a terror attack not occurring in the U.S. just yet, it solidifies the total lie that terror is real because it keeps happening all over the world, and thus "it cannot be staged because no one could possibly have the ability to coordinate anything on a global scale, you're just tin-foil hat wearers etc."  THIS BRAINWASHES, AND FORCES THE FEDERALIZED/MILITARIZED POLICE IN THE U.S. (AND ALSO LEGITIMIZES BOTH IN THEIR MINDS AND IN THE SHEEP) THAT WE NEED ILLEGAL, 4TH AMENDMENT VIOLATING ROADSIDE BOMB CHECKS IN THE U.S. OR ELSE SOME "UNKNOWN" TERROR GROUP WILL TEAR OUR GUTS OUT AND BLOW US TO PIECES.

3)  ANYONE WHO RIDES A BICYCLE NOW OR MOTORCYCLE CAN EXPECT A NEW, MASSIVE UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF HARASSMENT AND POLICE BRUTALITY.

 
4)  "These attacks clearly demonstrate that terrorism is a serious threat to all States and to all peoples. It poses a serious threat to our security and to the values of our democratic societies. No cause, no grievance, can justify acts of terrorism. -Presidency of the European Union"

Translation:

"HEY THIS IS A NEW 9/11, IT WON'T MATTER IF YOU KEEP EXPOSING, INFORMING PEOPLE THAT 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP COMMITTING NEW TERROR ATTACKS AND SHOVING DEAD BODIES IN PEOPLES FACES ON TV AND BLOOD SO THEY GET DEATHLY AFRAID AND NOT OPPOSE US WHEN WE PUT CAMERAS IN YOUR HOMES AND CARS, AND SEARCH YOU AT WILL, TERROR IS REAL BECAUSE WE SAY SO, AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP KILLING PEOPLE UNTIL YOU ACQUIESCE AND GIVE UP ALL YOUR RIGHTS."


"and allegedly on his search found six crude bombs inside from his bag,"

CRUDE BOMBS, yeah I wonder if they still have the Department of Homeland Security logo on the shipping package?  Hey all you fa33ot FEDS getting trained in this bullshit, you realize that this is all staged, fake terror right?  Enjoy working for the govt. who gives 2 shits about you or your family you pathetic disgusting, anti-Bill of Rights, unconstitutional pieces of TRASH.

Expect to see more press releases from DHS ramping up "roadside bomb check training and funding" when the economy is going to total hell. 

Also I feel this whole thing is at least partially a beta test of a multitude of shock-testing factors against the public with what will subsequently be ultra hardcore police state measures, so as to simulate conditions that might exist in America that Northern Command might have to deal with if the "anti-terror" chief, i.e. the DHS sec were to be targeted here, and/or a physical insurrection against the Federal Reserve.  They also probably want to have a reason to test their latest space surveillance and nano-tech DARPA enslavement bullshit toys.


In closing:  If you ever hear of a terror attack involving a FREAKING BICYCLE, THAT ALONE = INSIDE F**KING JOB!!!
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: RickT November 26, 2008, 05:57:21 PM
I'm finding better live coverage coming straight from IBN:

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1
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: chris jones November 26, 2008, 05:58:09 PM
Just like the money... right out of thin air...

...and the sheeple will think it's real... a carnival ride brought to you by ALCIADUH/MKULTRA.

...YEE-HAWW...!!

JT.  Organized, finaced, trained, weaponry, apparently targetting Americans and English.

A colonell involved, and educated high tech workers, this is not the infamous Bin Laden (boogieman)in action, this is a planed and coordinated attempt to to divide this nation.  
Innocents indiscrimentaly killed, thats a f*&&¨ken no no.  Lets leave the boogie men out of this catasrophe, this is not taliban or any other Muslim BS. This is a concerted efforted by educated individuals
bent on increasing the fear, relying on terror tactics. Fox NSM will definetly call it a muslim attack, or for that matter demand it was staged by Bin Laden himself.
Remember Pakistan is very close by, what was it Obama said about Pakistan, OH YA, an invasion may be in the necessary.
This is not a show this is slaughter, does this bring back memories, 911 for example.
Notice that the average age group of the gunnys range in the twentys. We can but speculate how long they have been brainwashed by their masters.
Another twist, Monsato has created severe problems in the farming industry. Ring bells.  The NWO does not sleep, they have billions of dollars to back them, they have profiled and hired brilliant men to organize these groups, sociopaths yes, but  w/ insidious intellegence INC.
I would give my right arm to know who is behind this and have them nailed to the wall. G7, would be a terrific start.

These mind bent young men have no f*((&ing idea of the true purpose to their slaughtering.

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: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 06:00:25 PM
In my gut feeling/analysis, a very significant part of the geo-political bullshit is as follows:

1)  Re-legitimizes that "terror is real" (HEH, IT'S A ANOTHER NEW, MINIATURE 9/11) in the minds of the sheep "hey people DIED (thus "terror is real"-but never mind that we staged it), GIVE UP YOUR DAMN RIGHTS AND SHUT UP ABOUT TRILLIONS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING TO FULLY AUTOMATED DARPA/NRO SURVEIILANCE FLYING DRONES IN THE U.S.

Remember the security lockdown in the U.S. that occurred when benazir Bhutto was assasinated, I heard of them FIRSTHAND.  Something that happens 10,000 miles from the U.S, is 100% guaranteed to be treated as though it happened right here.

Yet again out of the complete blue --how CONVENIENT that BICYCLES get incorporated into their false flags!

"At least two of those bombs were attached to bicycles, police said."

--> THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS HAS AND IS CONTINUING TO PUSH FOR HARDCORE DEMONIZATION OF BICYCLES, FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:

--> YOU CANNOT TRACK THEM, THERE IS NO GPS.

--> NO DRIVERS LICENSE, NOR INSURANCE IS REQUIRED, IT IS NOT A MOTOR VEHICLE.

--> NO LICENSE PLATE IS APPLICABLE, AS ABOVE, ALSO ANOTHER REASON THEY CANNOT BE TRACKED BY THEIR AI CAMERAS.

--> IT PROMOTES FREEDOM BECAUSE IT CAN ABSOLVE YOU OF THE SLAVERY TO FINACIAL RAPE VIA ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY OF OIL.

--> THEY WILL PROBABLY SAY THAT THE AMOUNT OF CO2 GIVEN OFF FROM THE ACTION OF RIDING A BICYCLE IS > THAN THEIR "ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY CARS", AND THUS HOW DARE YOU DAMAGE THE ENVIRONMENT RIDING ONE.



2)  Fulfills the goal of bullshit as seen in the Denver terror cell museum "A DELICATE BALANCE OF LIBERTY AND SECURITY"  With a terror attack not occurring in the U.S. just yet, it solidifies the total lie that terror is real because it keeps happening all over the world, and thus "it cannot be staged because no one could possibly have the ability to coordinate anything on a global scale, you're just tin-foil hat wearers etc."  THIS BRAINWASHES, AND FORCES THE FEDERALIZED/MILITARIZED POLICE IN THE U.S. (AND ALSO LEGITIMIZES BOTH IN THEIR MINDS AND IN THE SHEEP) THAT WE NEED ILLEGAL, 4TH AMENDMENT VIOLATING ROADSIDE BOMB CHECKS IN THE U.S. OR ELSE SOME "UNKNOWN" TERROR GROUP WILL TEAR OUR GUTS OUT AND BLOW US TO PIECES.

3)  ANYONE WHO RIDES A BICYCLE NOW OR MOTORCYCLE CAN EXPECT A NEW, MASSIVE UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF HARASSMENT AND POLICE BRUTALITY.

 
4)  "These attacks clearly demonstrate that terrorism is a serious threat to all States and to all peoples. It poses a serious threat to our security and to the values of our democratic societies. No cause, no grievance, can justify acts of terrorism. -Presidency of the European Union"

Translation:

"HEY THIS IS A NEW 9/11, IT WON'T MATTER IF YOU KEEP EXPOSING, INFORMING PEOPLE THAT 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP COMMITTING NEW TERROR ATTACKS AND SHOVING DEAD BODIES IN PEOPLES FACES ON TV AND BLOOD SO THEY GET DEATHLY AFRAID AND NOT OPPOSE US WHEN WE PUT CAMERAS IN YOUR HOMES AND CARS, AND SEARCH YOU AT WILL, TERROR IS REAL BECAUSE WE SAY SO, AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP KILLING PEOPLE UNTIL YOU ACQUIESCE AND GIVE UP ALL YOUR RIGHTS."


"and allegedly on his search found six crude bombs inside from his bag,"

CRUDE BOMBS, yeah I wonder if they still have the Department of Homeland Security logo on the shipping package?  Hey all you fa33ot FEDS getting trained in this bullshit, you realize that this is all staged, fake terror right?  Enjoy working for the govt. who gives 2 shits about you or your family you pathetic disgusting, anti-Bill of Rights, unconstitutional pieces of TRASH.

Expect to see more press releases from DHS ramping up "roadside bomb check training and funding" when the economy is going to total hell. 

Also I feel this whole thing is at least partially a beta test of a multitude of shock-testing factors against the public with what will subsequently be ultra hardcore police state measures, so as to simulate conditions that might exist in America that Northern Command might have to deal with if the "anti-terror" chief, i.e. the DHS sec were to be targeted here, and/or a physical insurrection against the Federal Reserve.  They also probably want to have a reason to test their latest space surveillance and nano-tech DARPA enslavement bullshit toys.


In closing:  If you ever hear of a terror attack involving a FREAKING BICYCLE, THAT ALONE = INSIDE F**KING JOB!!!
Wake up America! The government is coming to take our bicycles! They're afraid that you're all going to cycle away as fast as you can when they come to take your guns and put you in FEMA camps.

I'm sorry, it's just a bit far fetched in my opinion.
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: Biggs November 26, 2008, 06:01:30 PM
BBC reporting as many as 100 hostages, nationalities unknown

but this is unconfirmed
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 06:06:25 PM
CNN is reporting that indian british and us inteligence agencies are saying it might have been caused by another terrorist group other than the indian mujahadeen and guess what they mentioning this group aparently operates out of afganistan and pakistan <---- bingo.
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: Pheonix Renewed November 26, 2008, 06:08:35 PM
Yes, Obama clearly stated that he WOULD go into Pakistan, without their permission if necessary, to bomb or kill, in order to get terrorist targets.

I'd say the indications of this are perfectly clear.

Also, Biden said that Obama would face a manufactured crisis...
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: Please Wake Up! November 26, 2008, 06:09:09 PM
CNN anchor just said something similar to this (not exact quote):

"This came as a big surprise to everyone there.  In fact, word has it that they had reduced their security a few weeks ago.  So this was definitely a shock".

Reduced security? How convenient...  ::)


: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: rustygunn November 26, 2008, 06:10:01 PM
CNN reported that security in the area has been lessened in the area within the last 7 to 10 days.  
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: Anti_Illuminati November 26, 2008, 06:11:28 PM
Wake up America! The government is coming to take our bicycles! They're afraid that you're all going to cycle away as fast as you can when they come to take your guns and put you in FEMA camps.

I'm sorry, it's just a bit far fetched in my opinion.

It isn't far fetched.  Remember a bicycle was allegedly used in that "terror attack" against that federal building (court or w/e it was) in California.  It was very clear to me that this was purposely introduced as a "new tool" of terrorists, albeit rather subtly, because it was not a talking point that was hammered upon, but the seed was planted, and that's all it takes, because they can build off of that later.  You underestimate the literal seriousness that the NWO has when they talk about Full Spectrum Dominance.  As far as they are concerned, you are not even supposed to be able to have the freedom to think whatsoever, much less act on your thoughts or stand up for anything.

I wonder if Obama will eventually have both his whitehouse staff, as well as his goon squads shove "mandatory questionnaires" in the faces of the American people with this question:

"Do you own a bicycle?  If so, how many?  And are they on your property?"

Hey when they know that at some point the majority of people will not be able to afford to pay for gas, they have to know that you do not have a means of escape.

I bet the UN considers bicycles as "unsustainable", in violation of Agenda 21.  After all, you might actually be able to travel far enough on one secretly to secure some food from somewhere to prolong your survival in future road warrior 2.0 depression, and that would fly in the face of the Eugenics agenda that you are expected to die under, capiche?

EDIT:

Why do you think in some areas they have tried to push for mandating license for driving a bicycle?  That shit will go in nation-wide eventually unless people wake up (maybe that won't even matter).
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 06:12:27 PM
blackwater is busy screwing with the military, it has to be another contractor.
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: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 06:14:31 PM
CNN anchor just said something similar to this (not exact quote):

"This came as a big surprise to everyone there.  In fact, word has it that they had reduced their security a few weeks ago.  So this was definitely a shock".

Reduced security? How convenient...  ::)

Let me guess, the bomb sniffing dogs were removed...
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 26, 2008, 06:16:58 PM
CNN reported that security in the area has been lessened in the area within the last 7 to 10 days.  

And now they're talking about the unknown attackers being trained in afghanistan by al cia-da by bin laden, bandying 9/11™ around a bit too.
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: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 06:21:59 PM
Hostage situation at hospital:
http://www.wctv.tv/APNews/headlines/35158304.html
30 to 40 reported taken Hostage at Oberoi:
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_11080659
Taj Mahal is under control.
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: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
Can't believe that CNN is reporting that they are keeping Obama abreast of the situation.  It's Bush's job for now.
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 06:23:45 PM
Could this be Obama's challenge (Biden, rmember)??

Now we have to attack Pakistan because of this fake-phoney attack in Bombay? ... ... you know ... to "save" democracy.
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: Irobot November 26, 2008, 06:24:42 PM
More live streams for the windows type media players

mms://a1752.l2639523751.c26395.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1752/26395/v0001/reflector:23751

mms://a779.l2584224778.c25842.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/779/25842/v0001/reflector:24778


http://www.cnn.com/video/live/cnnlive_1.asx

.
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 06:26:55 PM
that gives obama a base to piss on russia and chinas doorsteps.
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: Pheonix Renewed November 26, 2008, 06:27:08 PM
This could be the "crisis" that creates the up-to-age-42 draft that Obama wants so very badly. War with Pakistan, when we are already over-reached? Oh yeah. Nothing says lovin' like another war in the President's oven.
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: deconstructmyhouse November 26, 2008, 06:29:38 PM
Wake up America! The government is coming to take our bicycles! They're afraid that you're all going to cycle away as fast as you can when they come to take your guns and put you in FEMA camps.

I'm sorry, it's just a bit far fetched in my opinion.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/11/bike_parking_war_on_terror.php (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/11/bike_parking_war_on_terror.php)

Bike Parking: the Latest Victim of the 'War on Terror'?
by Sami Grover, Carrboro, NC, USA on 11.19.07
Cars & Transportation (bikes)
      Buzz up!    

Bike%20Racks.jpg

We’ve already heard how getting off oil would help us fight terrorism, and we know that climate change is a security issue, so we are confused, then, why a report over on the BBC claims that bike racks may be sacrificed in the name of keeping us safe. Evidently architects and engineers in the UK have been putting a great deal of thought into ‘terror-proofing’ buildings, undeniably a worthy cause, but this has lead to the decision to axe bike parking facillities at some major venues and railway stations (Bonnie already reported on the protests about this last week):

    "There's a sense of panic about this. The truth is that railway stations cannot be protected from people carrying bombs like on 7/7. You can't check everyone coming into railway stations. The numbers involved are far greater than aeroplanes."

    He [Rail expert Christian Wolmar] fears the penalty will be paid by innocents like cyclists who will no longer have bike facilities, a problem highlighted at St Pancras and the Emirates Stadium.

    "We can't let them win by changing our way of life. We need a bit of the Blitz spirit."

We’ve been unable to find an explanation why reducing bike racks would increase security, but if anyone has ideas, we’d be glad to hear them.

 
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: RickT November 26, 2008, 06:35:18 PM
Something being reported here about Jews being attacked and held hostage at Chabad House - Mumbai’s Chabad House, situated near the sites of destruction, is a popular stop for Israeli tourists.

http://www.in.com/videos/watchvideo-cnn-ibn-1626373.html

We know the Israeli Mossad doesn't wait for permission to handle business.
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: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 06:37:31 PM
NBC Nightly News said they attacked the 2 hotels and a train station.  Said that a previously unknown group could be responsible.  Their report was very poor.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 06:38:00 PM
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/11/bike_parking_war_on_terror.php (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/11/bike_parking_war_on_terror.php)

Bike Parking: the Latest Victim of the 'War on Terror'?
by Sami Grover, Carrboro, NC, USA on 11.19.07
Cars & Transportation (bikes)
      Buzz up!    

Bike%20Racks.jpg

We’ve already heard how getting off oil would help us fight terrorism, and we know that climate change is a security issue, so we are confused, then, why a report over on the BBC claims that bike racks may be sacrificed in the name of keeping us safe. Evidently architects and engineers in the UK have been putting a great deal of thought into ‘terror-proofing’ buildings, undeniably a worthy cause, but this has lead to the decision to axe bike parking facillities at some major venues and railway stations (Bonnie already reported on the protests about this last week):

    "There's a sense of panic about this. The truth is that railway stations cannot be protected from people carrying bombs like on 7/7. You can't check everyone coming into railway stations. The numbers involved are far greater than aeroplanes."

    He [Rail expert Christian Wolmar] fears the penalty will be paid by innocents like cyclists who will no longer have bike facilities, a problem highlighted at St Pancras and the Emirates Stadium.

    "We can't let them win by changing our way of life. We need a bit of the Blitz spirit."

We’ve been unable to find an explanation why reducing bike racks would increase security, but if anyone has ideas, we’d be glad to hear them.

 
So they are coming for our bicycles... Surely it can't be that bad I thought, well it's worse than I thought was possible.
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 06:44:04 PM
So they are coming for our bicycles... Surely it can't be that bad I thought, well it's worse than I thought was possible.

That might be a big deal when oil is $20 a gallon.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Anti_Illuminati November 26, 2008, 06:44:54 PM
Wake up America! The government is coming to take our bicycles! They're afraid that you're all going to cycle away as fast as you can when they come to take your guns and put you in FEMA camps.

I'm sorry, it's just a bit far fetched in my opinion.

Really, ok (btw I guess it was NY, not California- so correction on what I stated perviously):

http://www.huliq.com/42806/series-explosions-shake-indian-courthouses
Series of explosions shake Indian courthouses
At least two of those bombs were attached to bicycles, police said.

Correlation:

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/03/07/nyregion/07bike.large.jpg)
This bicycle, which was recovered by police on Thursday morning, is believed to be the one ridden by the person who bombed the Times Square military recruitment station

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/03/07/nyregion/07bike.jpg)
A frame from a surveillance tape showing a man in the area near where the bicycle was found.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/07/nyregion/07cnd-bicycle.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Police Believe Recovered Bike Was Bomber’s
In a new development on Friday morning, investigators say they strongly believe that a bicycle recovered on Thursday morning was the one ridden by the person who bombed the Times Square military recruitment station earlier that morning.

The bicycle is a Ross model, blue in color and in “fairly” good shape, said one law enforcement official.

“We are operating on the premise that it is the bike,” said the official, although no specific announcement of that has been made.

The bicycle was found in or near trash receptacles at Madison Avenue and 38th Street on Thursday morning, said Raymond W. Kelly, the city police commissioner. He said the police learned of it around 7 a.m., about 3 hours and 15 minutes after the bombing.

Detectives were carefully scrutinizing the bicycle for potential forensic evidence or fingerprints. It was found early in the morning by some workers who — after hearing news reports that the Times Square bombing involved a bicyclist — told an employee at a nearby building that it might be important evidence and to call 911.

“After people had it for a while, somebody thought ‘Hey, did you hear about it,’ ” the official said. “A lot of people handled it. They told someone in the building, an administrator or someone.”

A surveillance camera captured video of a man in the area near where the bicycle was found and, as technicians worked to enhance the images, investigators increasingly came to believe the image was that of the suspected bomber. Again, the official said, the investigators are “working on that premise,” that the man seen in that surveillance footage is the suspect.

In it, he is wearing a hooded jacket or a jacket over a hooded sweatshirt, the official said, adding that the characteristics of the footage made it difficult to determine, at this point, with specificity.

Early Friday morning the police distributed fliers in Times Square seeking information from anyone who may have witnessed the bombing or may have information about it. A $12,000 reward has been offered for any information that leads to a conviction in the bombing.

Hours after the bombing two developments — with a potential for a trove of leads — had investigators scrambling, around the nation.

But by late Thursday night, the developments were seen as strange coincidences not connected to the bombings and by Friday morning one of them had been designated as a strange sideshow and the other all but ruled out as consequential.

In the first development, letters were received on Thursday by members of Congress with pictures taken before the blast of a man standing in front of the recruiting station with his arms stretched wide and the words, “We did it. Happy New Year.”

The letters, more than 30 pages each, were indexed with numbers indicating they were mass produced and mailed with a return address from California. A man’s name was printed at the bottom. At first, officials thought the claim, “We did it,” might be a claim of credit for the bombing. But federal agents tracked the man down, waited for him as he left a health club, pulled him over in his car and talked to him.

His story — and denials of being the bomber — were believed to be credible, the law enforcement official said.

“He admitted the mailings and said the picture was an old Christmas card,” said the official, who said the man’s car and house had been searched. The words of the letters, sent mostly to the offices of Democrats, were “all simple political urgings to the Democrats,” the official said. “ ‘Do this, do that, you messed that up,’ and right up to talking about November 2008 election.”

Mr. Kelly, on the morning cable TV news programs, said the “We did it” line was believed to be a reference to the Democrats winning control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.

“The letter’s really innocuous,” Mr. Kelly said in an interview on CNN. “It’s really advice to the Democratic Party as to how to win the 2008 election. It’s the type of information that pundits put out all the time on television. There is nothing particularly threatening in the document.” The letters arriving on the day of the bombing were chalked up to “bad timing,” in the words of one official.

As for the second development — it had investigators re-examining an incident from about a month ago at the Canadian border. At that time, anarchist writings and photographs of various spots around New York City — including the military recruiting station and the police station in Times Square — were discovered in one of four bags recovered by the authorities in a car crossing the border.

At the time, the contents “raised suspicions,” the official said, and New York City detectives visited every location depicted in the photographs to “tell them to be on their toes.” But there were no corresponding threats and no weapons found in the bags.

“And at the time, it was filed away,” the official said.

Then, when the bombing occurred, the authorities decided to take a new look at the Canadian border crossing incident. They went over the facts: Two of four men in a car got out and tried to cross the border on foot; the authorities pursued them but did not catch them; when the car was inspected at the checkpoint, each of the four bags were found to have contained four foreign passports for four people. In one of the bags were those writings and photographs, the official said.

But as they examined the facts, this lead, too, began to fizzle, officials said.

The investigators became “satisfied they were not doing anything illegal in New York,” the official said of the four people, whose names and photos were gleaned from the passport. “And satisfied they were not in New York at the time we got the information.”

Though investigators are still going over the facts and tying up some unanswered questions, the official said, “I don’t think anybody believes they are connected to the bombing.” However, the official said, things are still being “looked at.”

Reporting was contributed by Christine Hauser, Colin Moynihan, William K. Rashbaum and Carolyn Wilder.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4405742
NY Bomber Sought, but No Link to Letters
Business As Usual in Times Square As Search for Bomber Continues

Times Square returned to business as usual Friday as police investigating the explosion at a military recruiting center looked at dozens of security videotapes, hoping to identify the bicycle-riding bomber.

Among the videos was one showing a hooded cyclist pedaling toward an area where a bicycle was found ditched in the trash, and another with someone walking away from the same spot, police said.

Investigators suspect the bike — a 10-speed in good condition — may have been used by the bomber in the attack just before dawn Thursday on a landmark military recruiting station. Police released a photo of the blue bicycle on Friday, along with a picture from the video of the cyclist.

There were no injuries or serious damage from the bombing, which mirrored two previous small explosions at consulates in Manhattan.

"We're in the process now of identifying those cameras, downloading them," NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly told CNN on Friday. "We've got a lot of cooperation from the businesses in the area, and we're doing the normal investigative steps that you would expect in a case like this."

Authorities said there was no connection between the blast and a letter sent to as many as 100 members of Congress bearing the words "Happy New Year, We Did It."

Officials said the lengthy anti-war letters — sent to congressional offices with photos of a man standing in front of the recruiting office before it was damaged — contained no threats.

Laura Eimiller, an FBI spokeswoman in Los Angeles, said agents questioned a Hollywood man about the letters to Congress and searched his home and concluded "there is no evidence linking the letters, which contained no threat, to the bombing."

A law enforcement official in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation of the bombing was continuing, called the timing of the letters an "incredibly unbelievable coincidence" and said no charges were expected in connection with them.


Once again, welcome to roadside bomb checks for Bicycles in the U.S,, and an overall ramp up of all of it for anything that moves.  100% guaranteed to happen, just watch.  I know their minds, and know their games, not all of them, but a lot that most people would never even notice.
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: deconstructmyhouse November 26, 2008, 06:45:22 PM
So if this trend continues they will outlaw shoes?
or just go ahead and cut off our feet...
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Pheonix Renewed November 26, 2008, 06:47:35 PM
So if this trend continues they will outlaw shoes?
or just go ahead and cut off our feet...

Oh, oh, I think I just heard a faint echo from Obama's direction, "ooooooo! good idea! YO RAHM, I got an idea!"
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 06:48:57 PM
This could be the "crisis" that creates the up-to-age-42 draft that Obama wants so very badly. War with Pakistan, when we are already over-reached? Oh yeah. Nothing says lovin' like another war in the President's oven.

This is nowhere near the magnitude of a crisis the NWO needs for a draft.  This is merely a pin-prick.  
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 06:53:06 PM
Really, ok (btw I guess it was NY, not California- so correction on what I stated perviously):

http://www.huliq.com/42806/series-explosions-shake-indian-courthouses
Series of explosions shake Indian courthouses
Correlation:

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/03/07/nyregion/07bike.large.jpg)
This bicycle, which was recovered by police on Thursday morning, is believed to be the one ridden by the person who bombed the Times Square military recruitment station

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/03/07/nyregion/07bike.jpg)
A frame from a surveillance tape showing a man in the area near where the bicycle was found.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/07/nyregion/07cnd-bicycle.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Police Believe Recovered Bike Was Bomber’s
In a new development on Friday morning, investigators say they strongly believe that a bicycle recovered on Thursday morning was the one ridden by the person who bombed the Times Square military recruitment station earlier that morning.

The bicycle is a Ross model, blue in color and in “fairly” good shape, said one law enforcement official.

“We are operating on the premise that it is the bike,” said the official, although no specific announcement of that has been made.

The bicycle was found in or near trash receptacles at Madison Avenue and 38th Street on Thursday morning, said Raymond W. Kelly, the city police commissioner. He said the police learned of it around 7 a.m., about 3 hours and 15 minutes after the bombing.

Detectives were carefully scrutinizing the bicycle for potential forensic evidence or fingerprints. It was found early in the morning by some workers who — after hearing news reports that the Times Square bombing involved a bicyclist — told an employee at a nearby building that it might be important evidence and to call 911.

“After people had it for a while, somebody thought ‘Hey, did you hear about it,’ ” the official said. “A lot of people handled it. They told someone in the building, an administrator or someone.”

A surveillance camera captured video of a man in the area near where the bicycle was found and, as technicians worked to enhance the images, investigators increasingly came to believe the image was that of the suspected bomber. Again, the official said, the investigators are “working on that premise,” that the man seen in that surveillance footage is the suspect.

In it, he is wearing a hooded jacket or a jacket over a hooded sweatshirt, the official said, adding that the characteristics of the footage made it difficult to determine, at this point, with specificity.

Early Friday morning the police distributed fliers in Times Square seeking information from anyone who may have witnessed the bombing or may have information about it. A $12,000 reward has been offered for any information that leads to a conviction in the bombing.

Hours after the bombing two developments — with a potential for a trove of leads — had investigators scrambling, around the nation.

But by late Thursday night, the developments were seen as strange coincidences not connected to the bombings and by Friday morning one of them had been designated as a strange sideshow and the other all but ruled out as consequential.

In the first development, letters were received on Thursday by members of Congress with pictures taken before the blast of a man standing in front of the recruiting station with his arms stretched wide and the words, “We did it. Happy New Year.”

The letters, more than 30 pages each, were indexed with numbers indicating they were mass produced and mailed with a return address from California. A man’s name was printed at the bottom. At first, officials thought the claim, “We did it,” might be a claim of credit for the bombing. But federal agents tracked the man down, waited for him as he left a health club, pulled him over in his car and talked to him.

His story — and denials of being the bomber — were believed to be credible, the law enforcement official said.

“He admitted the mailings and said the picture was an old Christmas card,” said the official, who said the man’s car and house had been searched. The words of the letters, sent mostly to the offices of Democrats, were “all simple political urgings to the Democrats,” the official said. “ ‘Do this, do that, you messed that up,’ and right up to talking about November 2008 election.”

Mr. Kelly, on the morning cable TV news programs, said the “We did it” line was believed to be a reference to the Democrats winning control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.

“The letter’s really innocuous,” Mr. Kelly said in an interview on CNN. “It’s really advice to the Democratic Party as to how to win the 2008 election. It’s the type of information that pundits put out all the time on television. There is nothing particularly threatening in the document.” The letters arriving on the day of the bombing were chalked up to “bad timing,” in the words of one official.

As for the second development — it had investigators re-examining an incident from about a month ago at the Canadian border. At that time, anarchist writings and photographs of various spots around New York City — including the military recruiting station and the police station in Times Square — were discovered in one of four bags recovered by the authorities in a car crossing the border.

At the time, the contents “raised suspicions,” the official said, and New York City detectives visited every location depicted in the photographs to “tell them to be on their toes.” But there were no corresponding threats and no weapons found in the bags.

“And at the time, it was filed away,” the official said.

Then, when the bombing occurred, the authorities decided to take a new look at the Canadian border crossing incident. They went over the facts: Two of four men in a car got out and tried to cross the border on foot; the authorities pursued them but did not catch them; when the car was inspected at the checkpoint, each of the four bags were found to have contained four foreign passports for four people. In one of the bags were those writings and photographs, the official said.

But as they examined the facts, this lead, too, began to fizzle, officials said.

The investigators became “satisfied they were not doing anything illegal in New York,” the official said of the four people, whose names and photos were gleaned from the passport. “And satisfied they were not in New York at the time we got the information.”

Though investigators are still going over the facts and tying up some unanswered questions, the official said, “I don’t think anybody believes they are connected to the bombing.” However, the official said, things are still being “looked at.”

Reporting was contributed by Christine Hauser, Colin Moynihan, William K. Rashbaum and Carolyn Wilder.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4405742
NY Bomber Sought, but No Link to Letters
Business As Usual in Times Square As Search for Bomber Continues

Times Square returned to business as usual Friday as police investigating the explosion at a military recruiting center looked at dozens of security videotapes, hoping to identify the bicycle-riding bomber.

Among the videos was one showing a hooded cyclist pedaling toward an area where a bicycle was found ditched in the trash, and another with someone walking away from the same spot, police said.

Investigators suspect the bike — a 10-speed in good condition — may have been used by the bomber in the attack just before dawn Thursday on a landmark military recruiting station. Police released a photo of the blue bicycle on Friday, along with a picture from the video of the cyclist.

There were no injuries or serious damage from the bombing, which mirrored two previous small explosions at consulates in Manhattan.

"We're in the process now of identifying those cameras, downloading them," NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly told CNN on Friday. "We've got a lot of cooperation from the businesses in the area, and we're doing the normal investigative steps that you would expect in a case like this."

Authorities said there was no connection between the blast and a letter sent to as many as 100 members of Congress bearing the words "Happy New Year, We Did It."

Officials said the lengthy anti-war letters — sent to congressional offices with photos of a man standing in front of the recruiting office before it was damaged — contained no threats.

Laura Eimiller, an FBI spokeswoman in Los Angeles, said agents questioned a Hollywood man about the letters to Congress and searched his home and concluded "there is no evidence linking the letters, which contained no threat, to the bombing."

A law enforcement official in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation of the bombing was continuing, called the timing of the letters an "incredibly unbelievable coincidence" and said no charges were expected in connection with them.


Once again, welcome to roadside bomb checks for Bicycles in the U.S,, and an overall ramp up of all of it for anything that moves.  100% guaranteed to happen, just watch.  I know their minds, and know their games, not all of them, but a lot that most people would never even notice.
Still, you need to ask yourself if you could find something like this with every method of transport. The terrorists arrived by boats:
http://www.ttkn.com/world/terrorist-entered-taj-hotel-boat-230.html
The media is spending a lot of attention on pirates in Somalia suddenly. Using that logic they're demonizing boats as well. Perhaps that is the case. They want to phase out every method of transportation.
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: David Rothscum November 26, 2008, 06:55:02 PM
New blast reported in Oberoi hotel.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 06:56:01 PM
MIC profiteers wouldnt be caught dead on a mexican moped. maybe drunk but not at work. lol
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 07:00:33 PM
New blast reported in Oberoi hotel.

no i stand corrected it is blackwater.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Anti_Illuminati November 26, 2008, 07:02:18 PM
Still, you need to ask yourself if you could find something like this with every method of transport. The terrorists arrived by boats:
http://www.ttkn.com/world/terrorist-entered-taj-hotel-boat-230.html
The media is spending a lot of attention on pirates in Somalia suddenly. Using that logic they're demonizing boats as well. Perhaps that is the case. They want to phase out every method of transportation.

Start at position 3:46, and you will be horrifically made aware (OR reminded, which is more likely the case--connecting the dots is the key) of what you do not want to believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDqx-6KJSzo

Fluoride has still left me with a 145 IQ, and I intend to not allow it to drop any further.  
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: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 07:18:40 PM
I've been reading up on the Times of India and browsed through the comments there and saw this comment from an Indian-American. While you can feel the hurt and anger in this comment, I find it highly typical of what most people understand about their outside world:



san,USA,says:I think we need Bush-MacCain in the office here in USA who would work with the sole agenda of destroying terrorists and terrorist countries across the planet fearlessly and without worrying about any criticism. Terrorists don't need to be reasoned with, they simply need to be terminated, period America-Russia-China-France-Britain & India need to form a coalition to defeat terror. I don't think there is any power or organization on the planet which can face these 6 big powers even in their wildest fantasies...
[27 Nov, 2008 0304hrs IST]



Little do they understand about the global agenda, and that is where they want them. Busy and unaware...
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 26, 2008, 07:21:59 PM
I've been reading up on the Times of India and browsed through the comments there and saw this comment from an Indian-American. While you can feel the hurt and anger in this comment, I find it highly typical of what most people understand about their outside world:



san,USA,says:I think we need Bush-MacCain in the office here in USA who would work with the sole agenda of destroying terrorists and terrorist countries across the planet fearlessly and without worrying about any criticism. Terrorists don't need to be reasoned with, they simply need to be terminated, period America-Russia-China-France-Britain & India need to form a coalition to defeat terror. I don't think there is any power or organization on the planet which can face these 6 big powers even in their wildest fantasies...
[27 Nov, 2008 0304hrs IST]



Little do they understand about the global agenda, and that is where they want them. Busy and unaware...



that's exactly what brzezinski talks about in the grand chessboard, calls it the trans eurasian security system...

TRANSCONTINENTAL SECURITY

In the long term, Eurasia's stability would be enhanced by the emergence, perhaps early in the next century, of a trans-Eurasian security system. Such a transcontinental security arrangement might involve an expanded NATO, linked by cooperative security agreements with Russia, China, and Japan. But to get there, Americans and Japanese must first set in motion a triangular political-security dialogue that engages China. Such three-way American-Japanese-Chinese security talks could eventually involve more Asian participants, and later lead to a dialogue with the Organization for Cooperation and Security in Europe. That, in turn, could eventually pave the way for a series of conferences by European and Asian states on security issues. A transcontinental security system would thus begin to take shape.

Defining the substance and institutionalizing the form of a trans-Eurasian security system could become the major architectural initiative of the next century. The core of the new transcontinental security framework could be a standing committee composed of the major Eurasian powers, with America, Europe, China, Japan, a confederated Russia, and India collectively addressing critical issues for Eurasia's stability. The emergence of such a transcontinental system could gradually relieve America of some of its burdens, while perpetuating beyond a generation its decisive role as Eurasia's arbitrator. Geostrategic success in that venture would be a fitting legacy to America's role as the first and only global superpower.

Citation: Zbigniew Brzezinski, "A Geostrategy for Eurasia," Foreign Affairs, 76:5, September/October 1997.
COPYRIGHT 1997 Council on Foreign Relations Inc.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: skyfind November 26, 2008, 07:26:18 PM
remember 911, the media always saying "TERRORIST" "TERROR ATTACK", etc.... Ask who gave this "terrorists" in Mumbai all the weapons, granades, etc..., and from where came all the military training to make all this attacks

PD-edit:
CNN (spanish) is linking this attack to Osama bin laden and Pakistan(saying osama is there/coming from there), because the way it was made this "terrorist attack", attacking a financial sector, like in 1993

edit2; now linking to alqaeda and saying how alqaeda always attacks this places, "now they are attacking mumbai", the reporter in CNN says

edit3: now saying the alqaeda headquarter is in pakistan, and linking pakistan to this attacks. "They were in Afnganistan, but when the USA went there they cross the border and now they are inf Pakistan", CNN reporter says.




even in my local news in Chile are talking the same USA propaganda:
linking "terrorist attacks" = muslims
alqaeda is in pakistan
and, don´t know why  ::) , they talked about the possible next attack in the USA in the New york subway

 F**K , it makes me sick, i talk about this with my family and friends but they think i´m crazy, "you must relax and live the good things of the life" they tell me; come on! there is people dying right now so this  corrupt world can continue, it makes me sick how the news, the MSM/mass media is controlled, is really a big dark thing

--

russia today:
More than 100 held hostage in Mumbai in terror blitz
At least 80 people have been killed and more than 200 injured in several co-ordinated attacks in India's financial capital, Mumbai. It's reported that hostages are being held in two 5-star hotels in the city. Four terrorists have been killed and nine taken prisoner, according to Indian authorities

full article: http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/33855
video: http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/33855/video
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 07:34:02 PM

that's exactly what brzezinski talks about in the grand chessboard, calls it the trans eurasian security system...


 It comes as no surprise to me that this is the spawn of the CFR. I also would not be surprised if our new elect isn't in on it, since he's involved with the CFR/Trilateral Commission.
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: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 07:36:27 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/india.attacks/t1wide.india.attacks1.gi.jpg)
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 07:40:09 PM
NBC is saying the attack is NOT AL QUEDA, and there is no conclusive evidence of who carried it out. They are also saying it was a highly sophisticated operation 8 simoultanious attacks in India at once.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 07:43:24 PM
How hard can it be to travel to the same city and make sure all the members have all their watches sincronized to launch the attacks at the same time.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 07:44:44 PM
How hard can it be to travel to the same city and make sure all the members have all their watches sincronized to launch the attacks at the same time.
You dont understand how difficult it is to successfully evade police and intelligence and set off 8 different explosions within an hour. This is an intel OP
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 07:48:43 PM
As far as I can tell they are only wanting American and British citizens.
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 26, 2008, 07:48:54 PM
when I search google news for CiA / Mossad / ISI and India, I keep getting one name keep popping up, Brookings Institute expert 'Bruce Riedel' - former CIA, worked for the clinton whitehouse, now works on obama's foreign policy team.. anyone know anything about him?
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: nofakenews November 26, 2008, 07:49:46 PM
Lot of photos up now http://flickr.com/photos/vinu/

slide show http://flickr.com/photos/vinu/show/
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 07:50:38 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7751423.stm

Some of the people caught up in the Mumbai attacks, which targeted two of the Indian city's top hotels, a railway station, a hospital and other sites, have been describing their experiences.

Police say at least 78 people have been killed and more than 200 injured.



ALAN JONES
Alan Jones was in Mumbai on business, and was at the Trident Hotel, which adjoins the Oberoi Hotel, with a colleague when the attacks happened.

"We took the lift to the lobby and heard bangs as the door opened. A Japanese man, one of four men in the lift, was shot and wounded at that precise moment," he told BBC News.

"I frantically pressed the "close door" button but had to move the shot man's foot for the doors to close.

"We headed back to our rooms on the 28th floor of the hotel but were quickly instructed by staff to go to a "safe" room in the basement.

"There, we met many residents, but nowhere near all of them. After approximately an hour, we were escorted from the hotel, and, with the help of our local office, made our way back to the office we've been working at.

"It's still near the affected area but feels more secure.

"We're under the impression that there are still gunmen in the Oberoi -Trident complex, with many residents still inside."


ALEX CHAMBERLAIN
Alex Chamberlain, a British man in Mumbai on business, said he had escaped from the Oberoi hotel which was on fire.

He told the British television broadcaster, Sky, that when he was in the hotel a gunman ordered people upstairs.

"They told everybody to stop and put their hands up and asked if there were any British or Americans. My friend said to me, 'don't be a hero, don't say you are British'.

"I am sure that is what this is all about. They were talking about British and Americans specifically."

Fearing that he would be asphyxiated by smoke in the stairwell, Mr Chamberlain said he had managed to escape through a fire exit with another person.

But his Indian friend was "still on the roof of that hotel somewhere" while armed police surrounded the building.


SANVAR OBEROI
Mumbai resident Sanvar Oberoi said he was near the Chhatrapati Shivaji railway station - one of the targets - when the attacks began.

"On hearing two loud distinct bomb sounds we rushed back home," he told BBC News.

"On our way back at Marine Drive, a long stretch of sea-facing road, we saw the deployment of a large police personnel and safety measures being carried out such as evacuations.

"We saw a team of ambulances and police vehicles racing past on the other side of the road.

"Even in the posh area of Nepeansea Road and Malabar Hill all apartment buildings' gates were tight shut and police check posts set up.

"Colleges and offices have announced that they are shut for tomorrow. The entire city is in panic and shock.

"Cell phone networks are down, slow, congested.

"Mumbai indeed has seen its share of terrorism but never in the past 18 years to such a large and bold extent."



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: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 07:57:11 PM
NBC says the Indians have 5 of the terrorists in custody and are interrogating them. This is like India's 9-11

http://flickr.com/photos/vinu/3062076318/

Their streets are a complete mess

: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: TheGoodFight1984 November 26, 2008, 07:57:31 PM
That hotel seems to have been burning for quite a while. I think it might collapse fairly soon.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 07:57:38 PM
You dont understand how difficult it is to successfully evade police and intelligence and set off 8 different explosions within an hour. This is an intel OP

I'm not so sure this is a black op.  Usually black ops work in the shadows and are well coordinated .  We have pictures and video of the terrorists.  Plus, some died and some were arrested.  No way would that happen if this was a black op.  Most likely this was a provocateur attack from several intelligence agencies using dupes and patsies.  The fact that they were unknown up to today makes me think that they were funded and armed by intelligence, most likely CIA, MI6, and ISI. The usual suspects.  
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 08:00:25 PM
You dont understand how difficult it is to successfully evade police and intelligence and set off 8 different explosions within an hour. This is an intel OP

right on
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 08:04:58 PM
MUMBAI: Army commandoes moved into the luxury Oberoi and the Taj Mahal hotels early on Thursday to flush out terrorists holed up hours after an 
unspecified number of heavily armed gunmen went on a rampage in ten places in South Mumbai killing 80 persons and taking some foreigners hostage.

Four suspected terrorists were killed in two separate incidents overnight including two during a gun battle in the country's iconic landmark Taj hotel, police said.

Maharashtra deputy chief minister R R Patil said nine suspected terrorists have been arrested. Schools and colleges were ordered to be closed.

Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh said five police officers including Anti Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare were killed in one of the worst terror strikes in the country's financial capital that in all claimed the lives of at least 11 police personnel.

"The operation (by security forces) is still going on," he said. Besides army commandoes, naval commandos and Rapid Action force personnel joined in the operations to rescue those stranded in the two hotels. Five columns of Army and 200 NSG commandoes have been rushed. Two sten guns have been recovered by police so far, he added.

Deshmukh said it was not immediately known how many terrorists were involved in the audacious attack in ten places that shook the western metropolis. The chief minister said the Taj and Oberoi are not in control yet. He said there are no terrorists in Cama hospital which was also targeted by gunmen.

Police reported that some hostages were still being held at the Taj Mahal and Oberoi with eyewitnesses saying the gunmen had targeted foreigners after they kept shouting: "Who has US or UK passports?" Several guests were also stuck.

Fire was still raging in the old wing of Taj hotel several hours after it was rocked by five to six blasts and enormous clouds of black smoke rose from the century-old edifice on Mumbai's waterfront.

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So far they still have injured/wounded at 900. And also they only count 13 terrorists. 4 dead, 9 arrested...
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 08:05:25 PM
They dont have pics of the terrorists they have pics of the patsies. The ones who were manipulated into doing "something" at a certain "time" and dont even know what the hell is really going on.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 08:07:12 PM
Two sten guns have been recovered by police so far, he added

Amuetures do NOT use STEN's, these are not AK-47's they are specifically used for black ops
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:07:23 PM
They dont have pics of the terrorists they have pics of the patsies. The ones who were manipulated into doing "something" at a certain "time" and dont even know what the hell is really going on.

remember the "hijackings", every form of that word too.
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: DCUBED November 26, 2008, 08:13:47 PM
Two sten guns have been recovered by police so far, he added

Amuetures do NOT use STEN's, these are not AK-47's they are specifically used for black ops

Can you give any examples of STEN's being used in Black Ops.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 08:14:53 PM



 CNN reporter still trying to link attacks to Pakistani Al-CIA-da.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:16:27 PM
this is backlash from the indian navy blowing up that boat and pretending contractors were pirates.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: NWOSCUM November 26, 2008, 08:16:38 PM
Let me guess, the bomb sniffing dogs were removed...

AND good ole Bush brothers own the security company.  ;)
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:18:30 PM
AND good ole Bush brothers own the security company.  ;)

no surprise there
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: Dok November 26, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
Two sten guns have been recovered by police so far, he added

Amuetures do NOT use STEN's, these are not AK-47's they are specifically used for black ops

Ahh, you sure about that? Sten's are old WWII weapons. Very cheap. The US Army still uses them, we call them grease guns. Fully automatic 9mm's. Very unacurate weapons.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 08:21:08 PM


 CNN reports that Obama and his advisors are setting up a team to interact with the State Department on this crisis.  You would think that Obama was taking over on Monday.
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 08:21:24 PM
Holy crap, ... there's STILL GUNSHOTS.  There is a hostage standoff at the Taj and Trident Hotels.  They're showing a live feed of Indian 24-News Networks where you can hear the gunshots--the anchors are talking about it.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:23:00 PM
im sure they have a few tricks up their sleeve now obamanomicron is in pseudo office

indo Mess iah
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: mrwise November 26, 2008, 08:24:50 PM
The Indian News anchors are talking about the "Deccan Mujahideen."  And nobody has any idea what/who they are.  The anchors and reporters are like, "Who are they?  We've never heard of them."  And then they start talking about some other group who is on the books thinking that there might be some connection. Swear to God.

Awful.

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Irobot November 26, 2008, 08:25:10 PM
re: gunshots , I heard them too, there is a satnd off, and 5 cops so far have been killed.

fyi

More live streams for the windows type media players

mms://a1752.l2639523751.c26395.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1752/26395/v0001/reflector:23751

mms://a779.l2584224778.c25842.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/779/25842/v0001/reflector:24778

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/cnnlive_1.asx
.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Hawkwind November 26, 2008, 08:25:45 PM
i just woke up to this...crazy stuff going on....seems far too co-ordinated to be some new amateur terrorists "decann" or whatever their name is, looks like the whole city is in chaos with terrorist hijacking police cars YIKES
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: mrwise November 26, 2008, 08:31:42 PM
You know Kissenger is in his boxers eating popcorn enjoying it!
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 08:32:25 PM

  CNN reporter right now linking bombings to terrorist groups linked to O. Bin Laden.  This is his theory only.

  

: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:32:51 PM
the cars are commandeered not hijacked and it is sick. the higher ups must be freaking out letting things chug chug along too. its some horrid ish but the market is the component making it continue.
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: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 08:33:10 PM
British Intelligence has been using STENS since WW2 They are Assassination weapons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Pistolet_maszynowy_STEN%2C_Muzeum_Or%C5%82a_Bia%C5%82ego.jpg)


The Sten (or Sten gun) was a family of British 9 mm submachine guns used extensively by British and Commonwealth forces throughout World War II and the Korean War. They were notable for having a simple design and very low production cost.

STEN is an acronym, cited as derived from the names of the weapon's chief designers, Major Reginald Shepherd and Harold Turpin, and EN for Enfield.[1] Over 4 million Stens in various versions were made in the 1940s.

The official designation "Carbine, Machine, Sten" should not be confused with the common understanding of carbine; the Sten was a typical, almost stereotypical submachine gun while the term carbine is used to refer to short, light rifles. The "Carbine, Machine" element of the designation resulted from the British term for a submachine gun - "Machine Carbine" - in the early part of the Second World War.


: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Hawkwind November 26, 2008, 08:37:27 PM
they just said a RAF commando team is now engaging the terrorists
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 08:37:39 PM
'Dark forces' attacked Mumbai: New York mayor

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/USA/Dark_forces_attacked_Mumbai_New_York_mayor/articleshow/3762619.cms
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:39:58 PM
they just said a RAF commando team is now engaging the terrorists

covering their false flag in a rescue op. they are pulling out the fighters, and they are everywhere even saying good riddance to the people who fight for freedom.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 08:40:21 PM
'Dark forces' attacked Mumbai: New York mayor

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/USA/Dark_forces_attacked_Mumbai_New_York_mayor/articleshow/3762619.cms

I live in NY and Bloomberg is a Nazi
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 08:42:17 PM
BTW STEN's are usually SILENCED:

(http://www.olive-drab.com/images/firearms_smg_sten_01.jpg)

The silencer for the Sten gun was issued in 1943 at the request of the Special Operations Executive, the British Special Forces. With the silencer the direction of fire could not be easily determined since both noise and flash were suppressed. This was a clear advantage for covert operations including assassinations. A Sten is belived to have been used to kill the Norwegian traitor, Ivar Grande, in 1944 and during Operation Ratweek, when the SOE targeted collaborators in 1943. See the Olive-Drab.com page on Sound Suppressors / Silencers for more information.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 08:42:24 PM
i agree
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: Irobot November 26, 2008, 08:43:37 PM
they just said a RAF commando team is now engaging the terrorists

 I heard that to, we better remember that particular item. This is getting fishier by the minute.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:43:46 PM
I live in NY and Bloomberg is a Nazi

yes, hes a posterchild for the individual hater.
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:45:52 PM
BTW STEN's are usually SILENCED:

(http://www.olive-drab.com/images/firearms_smg_sten_01.jpg)

The silencer for the Sten gun was issued in 1943 at the request of the Special Operations Executive, the British Special Forces. With the silencer the direction of fire could not be easily determined since both noise and flash were suppressed. This was a clear advantage for covert operations including assassinations. A Sten is belived to have been used to kill the Norwegian traitor, Ivar Grande, in 1944 and during Operation Ratweek, when the SOE targeted collaborators in 1943. See the Olive-Drab.com page on Sound Suppressors / Silencers for more information.

they are using the junk because it makes the "ones" look like ill equipped idiots when they were funded and had superior capabilities in executing the "dark op"
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 08:47:43 PM
thats an old version , there are updated versions of the STEN but they are silenced sub machine guns, assassination guns. and STENS are only built in Britain and Israel
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: munkey November 26, 2008, 08:51:46 PM
I tried watching a live feed from ninemsn and it was all in Indian, although quite clearly I heard the words 9/11 twice  ::)
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:52:00 PM
thats an old version , there are updated versions of the STEN but they are silenced sub machine guns, assassination guns. and STENS are only built in Britain and Israel

agreed. ;)
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 08:55:40 PM
(http://www.kmike.com/KWjpg/sten.jpg)

(http://world.guns.ru/smg/sten_mkIII.jpg)

(http://world.guns.ru/smg/sten_mkII.jpg)
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 08:56:51 PM
the old disposable cell fone..
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 08:57:31 PM
Complete inside job by the G7 Intelligence operatives to build consensus on Pakistan bombing.

They killed 250 innocents and injured over 1,000 innocents.

They also took out over 3 high value targets (including anti-terror chief).

Cui Bono...


G7 International Banking and Drug Cartel.

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: RickT November 26, 2008, 08:58:28 PM
I heard that to, we better remember that particular item. This is getting fishier by the minute.

Commandos are about to assault the Jewish/Israeli Chabab House where 'terrorists' are held up and shooting from the building.  The Indian reporter said they were unsure if the 'terrorists' have taken hostages or if those people residing there are complicit.

Hmmm... a reporter is outside the building, so I'm sure they'll go live when commandos show up:

http://www.in.com/videos/watchvideo-cnn-ibn-1626373.html
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:00:52 PM
This group has already been exposed as a Right Wing Hindu faction that is sponsored by right wing G7 operatives.

The whole thing is turning into another mass mind control propaganda campaign to keep us in fear and turn over more sovereignty to G7 elites.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Revolt426 November 26, 2008, 09:02:14 PM
Well whoever carried it out sure were not armed by Muslims, Russia or China  if they were using STEN's.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: deconstructmyhouse November 26, 2008, 09:04:16 PM
The whole thing is turning into another mass mind control propaganda campaign to keep us in fear and turn over more sovereignty to G7 elites.

Also a false flag to further line up India and the US against China/Pakistan for the big showdown, yes?

One question: they say China is the only continent/country in the world that has been left chemtrail free; because they are already "subdued" and China is the shining NWO model of a suppressed and enslaved state.

So why the coming war with China?  Aren't they playing the game well?  
 
 
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 09:04:23 PM
250 dead?
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: Irobot November 26, 2008, 09:04:36 PM
Looks like the Zibignew /Obama war in Pakistan is right on schedule.
Anyone feel a draft?
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:06:43 PM
They had sophisticated car bombs, other incendiary devices, high powered machine guns, grenades, attacked over 17 sites in a coordinated effort to distract then hit high value targets.

This is a total inside job from start to finish.

Indian Mujahideen is a CIA/Mossad/Mi6/Turkish Intel/German Intel operation.

No one else has the muscle to pull this off.

Anyone who thinks this was just a "lucky day" for some radical extremists better wake up.

This is a standard G7 Operation and it is so far very successful.

No one is talking about how Obama/Rockefeller/Bush/Pelosi continues to rape the American wealth through bailouts and the federal reserve.

My heart goes out to all the innocent lives caught in Brzezinski's Grand Chess Games of global political domination.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 09:08:38 PM
Well whoever carried it out sure were not armed by Muslims, Russia or China  if they were using STEN's.

nope they are all the same team, team america justice league.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:08:49 PM
If this was really a true terrorist attack and not a false flag then...

Let's get the f**k out of India and put 3,000,000 jobs back into the hands of American citizens!
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 09:10:13 PM
no doubt
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: deconstructmyhouse November 26, 2008, 09:11:21 PM
Imagine: an information call without an Indian accent...
can't remember what that's like.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
I pray for all the innocent lives lost in this mess...
: Re: LIVE FEED: Terror attacks in India - US MEDIA MINIMIZING ATTACKS!
: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 09:18:48 PM
You know Kissenger is in his boxers eating popcorn enjoying it!

LOL  :D. What a disturbing thought, but you're probably right. And he's probably all giddy and laughing like a schoolgirl while he's on the iPhone withh Zbig...
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:21:26 PM
Wow someone on another forum might be awake:

Newsgroups: aus.politics, soc.culture.indonesia, soc.culture.japan, soc.culture.australian, soc.culture.singapore
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/browse_thread/thread/8d2277fb7444ee42
From: kangarooistan <elea.namatj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:32:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 14 2008 8:32 am
Subject: At Least 20 Killed in New Delhi Bombing by western taxpayer funded CIA and Mossad death squads , to incite violence against Muslims leading up to the coming elections

like the non existent WMD and the non existent terrorists in the Lavon
Affair  and hundreds of western taxpayer funded bombings and
massacres  and  death squads under cover LIES exposed all around the
world for Israeli death squads

A multiple bomb attack occurred against crowded markets in the Indian
capital of New Delhi this evening, killing at least 20 people and
injuring at least 90 others.
.
 The markets were said to be unusually busy this weekend, owing to the
upcoming Hindu festival of Navrati and the Muslim Eid ul-Fitr. The
attack  by an western taxpayer funded outfit call itself the CIA and
Mossad death squads , to incite violence against Muslims leading up to
the coming elections , just like they do before most  elections so as
to run with their western puppets best weapon , fear .

  CIA and Mossad  promised more attacks in the future. to distract
western media from the many crises happening in the USA they need
extra "smoke screens" and a few more bombings and plane sabotages will
be needed to keep western publics minds off the collapsing western
economy and faster demonize Muslims to prevent them from growing any
faster  all around the world

But who exactly is the Indian Mujahideen and why are western taxpayer
funded  the CIA and Mossad death squads trying to blame muslims and
distract media from the real news ?

 The answer is far from clear, but the CIA and Mossad are definitly
running it as top story on every one of their western jewish
controlled media outlets so that itself is proof they carried it out
and had the media releases ready to hand out weeks ago as usual . The
group arrived virtually out nowhere onto the scene early in 2007 and
has taken credit for[ CIA propaganda spin ] several major attacks
since then, including an attack in May on the city of Jaipur which
killed 63 people.

  clearly there is no such muslim terrorist group, and the CIA and
Mossad under cover agents are simply re running another  "Lavon Affair
" , to create total war until all western taxpayers have been bled to
death for Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

 The Indian government has alleged that the " Indian Mujahideen" is
simply an alias for the banned Students Islamic Movement of India.and
as western puppets are demonizing  Muslims as ordered by Washington
and Israel

SIMI denies any connection with militant groups, but has been banned
off and on by the Indian government, and though it has often been
accused of terrorist ties the case has never been particularly
conclusive. In 2007 when the organization challenged its most recent
ban the Indian Supreme Court upheld it on the grounds that SIMI was
“a  secessionist movement,” not a terrorist organization. Likewise,
while
some of the bombing suspects arrested in the past few years have been
SIMI members, its higher ranking officials are more often arrested
for  sedition than for any violent acts.

In fact, the SIMI ban was overturned last month by the Delhi High
Court. And while police expressed “shock” at the decision citing
investigations into the Indian Mujahideen’s bombings, the court
determined it had been presented with no concrete evidence to justify
the ban. The following day, the judgment was overruled and the ban
reinstated by the Indian Supreme Court, after the government
complained the move would “harm anti-terror policy”.

   The later court ruling was meant to give the government time to
produce new evidence against the group, though police later admitted
that they still have no “direct evidence” against SIMI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
 everybody who has taken the time to investigate the facts knew on
sept 11  2001   was a false flag black op

so are most bombings being blamed on muslims

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
.
The Lavon Affair refers to the scandal over a failed Israeli covert
operation in Egypt known as Operation Susannah, in which Israeli
military intelligence planted bombs in Egyptian, American and British-
owned targets in Egypt in the summer of 1954.

   It became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense
minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the
incident, or euphemistically as the Unfortunate Affair (Hebrew: העסק
הביש‎, HaEsek HaBish). Israel admitted responsibility in 2005 when I
terrorte Moshe Katzav honored the nine Egyptian Jewish bombers who
were involved and referred to them as "heroes". .[1]

[edit] Operation Susannah

In the early 1950s the United States initiated a more activist policy
toward Egypt often in contrast with British policies.
.
 Fearing this policy would remove a moderating effect on Egyptian
President Nasser's military ambitions, especially toward Israel by
encouraging Britain to withdraw its military forces from the Suez
Canal, Israel first sought to influence this policy through diplomatic
means but was frustrated[2].

In the summer of 1954 Colonel Binyamin Gibli, the chief of Israel's
military intelligence, Aman, initiated Operation Suzannah in order to
reverse that decision. The goal of the Operation was to carry out
bombings and other acts of sabotage in Egypt with the aim of creating
an atmosphere in which the British and American opponents of British
withdrawal from Egypt would be able to gain the upper hand and block
the withdrawal.[3]

The top-secret cell, Unit 131, which was to carry out the operation,
had existed since 1948 and under Aman since 1950. At the time of
Operation Susannah, Unit 131 was the subject of a bitter dispute
between Aman and Mossad over who should control it.

http://911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag#Pseudo-operations

http://www.rense.com/general21/was911mossad.htm

http://www.nbc4.com/news/14516979/detail.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_propaganda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_propaganda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukden_incident

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_H._Hanneken

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selous_Scouts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Young_Free_Algerians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_HUMINT#False_Flag_Penetrator

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Cross_System

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_North_Pole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canuck_Letter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_squad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Fontana_bombing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masada_Action_and_Defense_Movement
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: RickT November 26, 2008, 09:22:52 PM
Imagine: an information call without an Indian accent...
can't remember what that's like.

I Know.  Hell, it's hard to order a frigging pizza from a large chain without getting your call sent to India.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 09:23:01 PM
that is some real right there, using wiki too.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: C November 26, 2008, 09:25:34 PM
What seems weird to me, and I say this because I am watching a live feed of the events on BBc is the fact that these "terrorists" held up hostages in these hotels. here we have one of the most popular indian cities in a very important business district where some terrorists hole up in a hotel with hostages, not realising that the armed response to their actions is going to be massive. My take on this is that more "shit" was supposed to be going down, maybe these guys were waiting for orders which never came, because patsies are easily disposed of and now these hotels have just been stormed over by commandos. These patsies fight back or get arrested and the powers that be are unknown. You will see that not one of those terrorists is going to stand trial, all will be killed or misteriously escape their jail cells.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Hawkwind November 26, 2008, 09:26:10 PM
They had sophisticated car bombs, other incendiary devices, high powered machine guns, grenades, attacked over 17 sites in a coordinated effort to distract then hit high value targets.

This is a total inside job from start to finish.

Indian Mujahideen is a CIA/Mossad/Mi6/Turkish Intel/German Intel operation.

No one else has the muscle to pull this off.

Anyone who thinks this was just a "lucky day" for some radical extremists better wake up.

This is a standard G7 Operation and it is so far very successful.

No one is talking about how Obama/Rockefeller/Bush/Pelosi continues to rape the American wealth through bailouts and the federal reserve.

My heart goes out to all the innocent lives caught in Brzezinski's Grand Chess Games of global political domination.

looking at it in this perspective you can def see its far too sophisticated for some new terror group, the police car getting hijacked and used as a weapon of deception smells of a mossad tactic to me....were probably looking at 7-10 groups of hired mercs with their "handlers" coordinating their movements no doubt getting them all high on amphetamines, i saw one photo one of the "terrorists" and his eyes looked bugged out, probably off his face. such a disgusting massacre, i could believe the death toll being 250 and upward.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:28:00 PM
looking at it in this perspective you can def see its far too sophisticated for some new terror group, the police car getting hijacked and used as a weapon of deception smells of a mossad tactic to me....were probably looking at 7-10 groups of hired mercs with their "handlers" coordinating their movements no doubt getting them all high on amphetamines, i saw one photo one of the "terrorists" and his eyes looked bugged out, probably off his face. such a disgusting massacre, i could believe the death toll being 250 and upward.

Russia and China probably already have the chatter from the AWACKS to the special ops troops available for future extortion.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 09:29:29 PM
What seems weird to me, and I say this because I am watching a live feed of the events on BBc is the fact that these "terrorists" held up hostages in these hotels. here we have one of the most popular indian cities in a very important business district where some terrorists hole up in a hotel with hostages, not realising that the armed response to their actions is going to be massive. My take on this is that more "shit" was supposed to be going down, maybe these guys were waiting for orders which never came, because patsies are easily disposed of and now these hotels have just been stormed over by commandos. These patsies fight back or get arrested and the powers that be are unknown. You will see that not one of those terrorists is going to stand trial, all will be killed or misteriously escape their jail cells.

they did not notice the economic gift they got it seems.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 09:30:59 PM
Complete inside job by the G7 Intelligence operatives to build consensus on Pakistan bombing.

They killed 250 innocents and injured over 1,000 innocents.

They also took out over 3 high value targets (including anti-terror chief).

Cui Bono...


G7 International Banking and Drug Cartel.



Bro, where did you find this info? I was just on the India Times news site and they're still saying 80 dead, 900 injured.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 09:32:21 PM
Bro, where did you find this info? I was just on the India Times news site and they're still saying 80 dead, 900 injured.

discrepancies in the "news"
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 09:33:55 PM
What seems weird to me, and I say this because I am watching a live feed of the events on BBc is the fact that these "terrorists" held up hostages in these hotels. here we have one of the most popular indian cities in a very important business district where some terrorists hole up in a hotel with hostages, not realising that the armed response to their actions is going to be massive. My take on this is that more "shit" was supposed to be going down, maybe these guys were waiting for orders which never came, because patsies are easily disposed of and now these hotels have just been stormed over by commandos. These patsies fight back or get arrested and the powers that be are unknown. You will see that not one of those terrorists is going to stand trial, all will be killed or misteriously escape their jail cells.

Hey, do you have the live stream link to the BBC please?
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: Irobot November 26, 2008, 09:35:12 PM
FLASHBACK:Neocon Bill Kristol expects Bush to attack Pakistan
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Neocon_Bill_Kristol_urges_Bush_to_0712.html


Mossad behind the mass terror attack in Mumbai, India?
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/9310
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:35:35 PM
This group has already been exposed as a CIA operation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ajit Sahi on Indian Muslims and Media
www.khabrein.info/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=18448
Generated: 21 November, 2008, 13:04


Q: Some people have raised the possibility of groups like the CIA or Mossad being involved in acts of disruption in India
in order to destablise the country and to drive it further into the embrace of America and Israel. How do you see this
argument?

A: On this I am wary of speculating anything, because I like to speak on the basis of evidence. But, yes, I would like the
CIA's operations in India to be explored. We need to know a lot more about the CIA than we presently do. Unfortunately,
many of us are blind to the reality of how shameless America and the CIA have been since the past century. The CIA
has for long been involved in engineering internal strife all over the world. US expansionism and imperialist hegemony is
premised on promoting internal instability abroad. We know, for instance, how the CIA trained the Pakistani ISI and
Osama bin Laden to fight the Russians. And now there's talk about the Americans and Israelis working with the Indian
armed forces in counter-insurgency operations, and a separate institution for this has been set up somewhere in
Mizoram. America and Israel have done everything in their power to bring hatred upon their own countries. So why do we
want to be in their league? Look at where Pakistan has reached&mdash;almost to the point of civil war&mdash;by siding
with America. Do we want to go the same way? I, for one, do not.

Q. What do you feel about the 'Indian Mujahideen' and another outfit with a similar-sounding name that has been blamed
for the Assam blasts? Do you think these are real organizations or are they, as some people allege, simply fictitious and
perhaps a creation of the Hindutva lobby and/or the intelligence bureau? Is there any sold proof that these outfits do
actually exist?

A. Once again, I can't say they don't exist without incontrovertible proof that indeed these are only a figment of the
police's imagination. But the fact is that the credibility of the Indian police and intelligence agencies is, as far as I am
concerned, questionable, to put it mildly. Can you remember the last time the police in India genuinely cracked a case
without public pressure, or came up with the truth, or did not try to implicate a wrong guy? I will take you back six years
when Delhi-based journalist Iftikhar Geelani was arrested by the Delhi Police and accused by the Intelligence Bureau of
spying for Pakistan. The poor man spent seven harrowing months in Tihar Jail, on which he wrote a book, My Days In
Prison. It turned out that the entire case against Geelani (not to be confused with Prof. SAR Geelani of the Parliament
attack case) was fabricated by the IB. The secret and classified document that the IB claimed was found on his computer
was a document that was published by an Islamabad institute and widely circulated, including in India. In fact, so
malicious was the IB that they altered the document to make it a look as if it was from the Indian government.

So, coming back to Indian Mujahideen, if the Indian security agencies and the police have a watertight case against this
outfit, then why don't they bring the evidence to the public domain? Why are they always racing to hold a press
conference and plant stories of their claims through pliant journalists but never forthcoming with evidence? How do we
know for sure that the e-mails that the government claims were sent by IM were actually sent by it?
At this point, I must tell my Hindu brothers and sisters of the Indian middle class &ndash; many of who appear to be
resolutely behind the IB and the police insofar as the Muslim-as-terrorists theories are concerned &ndash; that they
should be careful in allowing their prejudices to get the better of their reasoning. I mean, just look at how the American
white, Christian middle class plumbed for all the deceitful lying that George Bush did in order to get their support to attack
Afghanistan and Iraq. When people ask me why would IB and the police lie, I ask them, why do they think George Bush,
Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice lied and continue to lie? After all, these were the top
leaders of the world's most powerful 'democracy'. So let's not be naïve and reject the possibilities that the Indian
Mujahideen does not exist.

Q. You say the timings of the blasts need to be studied and point to the fact of the sudden increase in these blasts as the
elections draw closer, thus suggesting a possible causal relationship. Can you elaborate on precisely which political
forces/parties might stand to gain from these blasts, which, in turn, might shed some light on this possible causal
relationship?

A. I must make this clear that I am not suggesting that any political party is behind the bomb blasts, though BJP leader
Sushma Swaraj did stunningly seemed to suggest that the Congress might be behind the Ahmedabad blasts of July 26
this year. But isn't it obvious which parties stand to gain from the politics of polarizing that follows such terror attacks? It
is obvious that the BJP gains a lot from consolidating an anti-Muslim bias among at least the urban Hindus by raising the
fear of unchecked terrorism arriving at our doorstep. We now have the very interesting case unfolding in Maharashtra
with the arrest of hardcore Hindutva elements for the September blasts in Malegaon. But, as I said, the Indian police
cannot be trusted, and the entire Malegaon case could well be a political stunt by a desperate Congress party, which
rules Maharashtra, to counter the political mileage that the BJP was hoping to draw from the blaming of Muslims for the
other terror attacks.
(Ajit Sahi c
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:36:34 PM
Bro, where did you find this info? I was just on the India Times news site and they're still saying 80 dead, 900 injured.

The numbers keep changing, that is the highest number I have seen so far.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Hawkwind November 26, 2008, 09:43:08 PM
why would the "terrorists" set fire to the hotel if they are still in there with hostages? thats because the hostages are already dead and psy-ops just tried to cover their tracks....they are saying there are "no more gunshots" they are already out of there.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 09:44:20 PM
why would the "terrorists" set fire to the hotel if they are still in there with hostages? thats because the hostages are already dead and psy-ops just tried to cover their tracks....they are saying there are "no more gunshots" they are already out of there.

yes its a transition.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:44:47 PM
Here is the perfect quote taken before the attacks in regards to this "terrorist" group:

So, coming back to Indian Mujahideen, if the Indian security agencies and the police have a watertight case against this outfit, then why don't they bring the evidence to the public domain?

Why are they always racing to hold a press conference and plant stories of their claims through pliant journalists but never forthcoming with evidence? How do we
know for sure that the e-mails that the government claims were sent by IM were actually sent by it?

At this point, I must tell my Hindu brothers and sisters of the Indian middle class &ndash; many of who appear to be resolutely behind the IB and the police insofar as the Muslim-as-terrorists theories are concerned &ndash; that they should be careful in allowing their prejudices to get the better of their reasoning.

I mean, just look at how the American white, Christian middle class plumbed for all the deceitful lying that George Bush did in order to get their support to attack
Afghanistan and Iraq.

When people ask me why would IB and the police lie, I ask them, why do they think George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice lied and continue to lie? After all, these were the top leaders of the world's most powerful 'democracy'.

So let's not be naïve and reject the possibilities that the Indian Mujahideen does not exist.


The proof will be the cover up.

There will be no investigation.

None.

No investigation into the 17 coordinated terror attacks involving sophisticated equipment, intellince, timing, and media backdrop.

Not one single investigation will occur into these executions.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:46:47 PM
All witnesses better upload their documentation/images/videos to the internet because all witnesses are now being targeted by commandos.

Now comes the real bloodshed.

Search and destroy missions by commandos with night vision technology to ensure that no one talks!
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 09:46:54 PM
Via BBC World news, Gunmen take hostages in office block.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 09:48:50 PM
The numbers keep changing, that is the highest number I have seen so far.

 Ok. Just tryin to make sure I haven't overlooked anything :)

Link to India Times - Mubai news : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Mumbai/articlelist/-2128838597.cms
: Re: G7 Sponsored India Terror Attacks success! 250 Dead/1,000 Injured/Pakistan Blame
: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:49:20 PM
More proof that the Indian Mujahideen is TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!


Indian Mujahideen: Fact or Fiction?
http://thepeacetimes.net/2008/09/indian-mujahideen-fact-or-fiction/
Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:22


Terming the Indian Mujahideen, which has claimed responsibility for the serial blasts in Ahmedabad and New Delhi, as fictitious, several Muslim organizations and clerics have demanded investigations into the possible role of the Hindu right wing in the terror attacks.

In a statement issued here Wednesday evening, 21 Muslim organisations challenged Indian Mujahideen leaders to come out in the open and prove their actions.

“We hereby challenge the so-called IM to come out in the open and prove that they are representatives and spokesmen for the Ummah, and justify their actions point by point, or else it will be eventually surmised that they are non-persons and nothing but a figment of the Sangh Parivar’s unscrupulous imagination, brought into the collective psyche of all Indians by the grand alliance of Mossad and their protagonists in the country,” the statement said.

The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and organisations ideologically affiliated with it are collectively known as the Sangh Parivar.

Justifying the contention, Sarfaraz Arzoo, member of the All India Milli Council and prominent Urdu media personality, said: “We have to look into the issue as to who gains political mileage out of it (the blasts). Definitely, it is the Sangh Parivar which is getting mileage and hence the needle of suspicion points towards Sangh Parivar.”

Muslim cleric Maulana Hafiz Syed Athar Ali argued that there is nothing like the Indian Mujahideen. He said that the Muslims were blamed earlier for terror attacks in the name of the banned Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and now a new name has come up.

“Our religious sentiments are being hurt. Examine the role of others, the saffron organisations, the Mossad and the CIA,” said Ali, president of All India Ulemas Council.

He added that soon after the July 26 Ahmedabad serial blasts, US national Kenneth Haywood came under the scanner, but his passport was not impounded. He managed to go to the US despite a look-out notice against him and “he returned after destroying evidence,” Ali added.

Minutes before the Ahmedabad blasts, a threat mail had been sent to media organisations in the name of the Indian Mujahideen. it was soon found that the mail was sent using Haywood’s Wi-Fi internet connection.

The joint statement added that the serial blasts have resulted in “progressive polarization” of Indian society and hastened the speed of marginalisation of the Muslim community which eventually will result in rich dividends for the Sangh Parivar, the ’sole beneficiaries’.

“This is something they (Sangh Parivar) have always dreamt of but never successfully achieved. With Indian Mujahideen in their kitty, their tough job is getting easier by the day,” according to the statement.

“The Muslims in India cannot continue to be silent spectators and are ready to play a historic role in the rejuvenation and revitalization of Indian ethos. The recent flow of events cannot succeed in forcing us to abdicate our responsibilities,” it said.
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 09:50:02 PM
they have already planned for the anti muslim muslim, america did the anti christian is pro muslim is why i read the quran...
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 09:51:21 PM
why does say 9/11 on cnn?
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 09:52:49 PM
Just heard on CNN:

security personell were pulled from the Hotels moments before (20-30 min) the attack.  This, ... ... ON CNN!!  Let's see if the sheeple are able to integrate this.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:52:59 PM
Can anyone say motif?



Pakistan - A Disinformation Campaign?
http://www.bestcyrano.org/avenger212/?p=439
Posted in November 18th, 2008  [9 days ago!]
by Rowan Wolf in BE NOT DECEIVED



The U.S. has been fighting a war inside of Pakistan. These actions, which have resulted in the death and injury of civilian populations have drawn the ire of the people of Pakistan, and condemnation (and attacks) from the government of Pakistan. The perception was that this was Bush unilaterally engaging in invading yet another country. However, then the news leaked that Bush approved the raids.

The word is that in July of 2008 George Bush “secretly” approved special forces to carry out assaults inside of Pakistan without the knowledge or approval of the Pakistani government. According to the NY Times report which broke the story:

The classified orders signal a watershed for the Bush administration after nearly seven years of trying to work with Pakistan to combat the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and after months of high-level stalemate about how to challenge the militants’ increasingly secure base in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

American officials say that they will notify Pakistan when they conduct limited ground attacks like the Special Operations raid last Wednesday in a Pakistani village near the Afghanistan border, but that they will not ask for its permission.


Almost in passing, the article also notes that:

The Central Intelligence Agency has for several years fired missiles at militants inside Pakistan from remotely piloted Predator aircraft. But the new orders for the military’s Special Operations forces relax firm restrictions on conducting raids on the soil of an important ally without its permission.

So is it the CIA that is currently flying the drones on their bombing missions inside Pakistan? Isn’t that a “military” function? Yes, it is, and it is part of the secret army within the CIA. This CIA assault force known as the Special Operations Group. Douglas Waller of Time wrote an excellent expose in February 2003 titled “The CIA’s Secret Army.”

But back to our “story.”

The claim (included in the NY Times’ article) was that officials inside Pakistan had tacitly agreed to the attacks inside their borders. There was no word of exactly what “officials” made that agreement. However, IF it such tacit approval happened, then it was likely the ISI (Pakistan’s intelligence service) given the involvement of the CIA.

As outrage from the government of Pakistan has mounted over the attacks on its people and sovereignty, the claim of tacit approval of the U.S. cross border raids were thrown in yet again - this time by the Washington Post on November 16, 2008 (”Pakistan and U.S. Have Tacit Deal On Airstrikes). The nifty little floating of this story is not just the “tacit approval,” but that Pakistan could pitch a fit over the incursions.

The officials described the deal as one in which the U.S. government refuses to publicly acknowledge the attacks while Pakistan’s government continues to complain noisily about the politically sensitive strikes.

What a convenient “explanation” of Pakistan’s appropriate anger at the U.S. incursions. Of course, Pakistan vehemently denies any such agreement.

What is information and disinformation?

Well some things seem to be real. First that President Bush approved the use of “special forces” to operate within Afghanistan. Those “special forces” could be military or CIA - or both. Second, that the attacks inside Pakistan have really happened : by ground which purportedly stopped in September 2008, and then drone bombing runs conducted thereafter. Third, civilians have been killed and injured and homes and villages destroyed. Fourth, the people of Pakistan are outraged, turning to the Taliban - even if we can’t know (given the counter claims) whether the government of Pakistan is or not. Fifth, that the attacks undermine the authority of the new Pakistani administration.

There are a variety of reports that Pakistan’s ISI was behind the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul on July 7, 2008 (UN Afghanistan Mission, NY Times, National Security Network). The various reports seem to indicate that Pakistan is targeting Indian missions and companies inside of Afghanistan out of concern out rising Indian influence inside Afghanistan. Further that Pakistan and the ISI are renewing alignments with Taliban, and perhaps other militant groups.

The short story is that complex situations tend to get more and more convoluted. Enemies and allies swirl in haze of conflicting interests and ongoing disputes and alliances. As always, the innocent are caught in the middle.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:56:27 PM
More motif...


September 15, 2008
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2008/09/the-chenab-rive.html
The Chenab River And U.S. Pressure on Pakistan

There is again conflict heating up between India and Pakistan. There are two well known political issues between these countries. Yesterday a major economic issue was added by India that may well lead to unrest or even war. I suspect that the U.S. has a hand in this.

One political conflict is over Kashmir, the north western state of India that has a Muslim majority and borders Pakistan. Kashmir does want independence from India, but does not want to become a part of Pakistan.

While Pakistan generally supports anti-Indian activities in Kashmir it does not want Kashmir to become independent but would like to incorporate it. Unrest is Kashmir is often a proxy war that Pakistan traditionally stokes whenever it has interior political trouble.

This time though trouble in Kashmir seems to be indigenous. The state government gave a patch of land near a Hindu temple in Kashmir to some Hindi charity. The 6 million Muslims in Kashmir protested over this in large rallies. Hindu protesters then blocked the only road connecting Kashmir with India for several weeks. This led to big losses for Kashmir fruit farmers who now plan to reopen the silk road to Pakistan.

Saturday five bombs exploded in New Delhi and killed 21 people. A group called Indian Mujahideen took responsibility and referred to the conflict in Kashmir. Some accuse Pakistan of supporting the Indian Mujahideen which I find unlikely.

While the recent conflict might not have been activated by Pakistan, India has other grievances too. Last month the Indian embassy in Kabul was bombed and India as well as the U.S. accused Pakistan's military secret service ISI to be behind this. Pakistan feels threatened by any Indian activity in Afghanistan. (Why do the U.S. and NATO allow Indian activities in Afghanistan at all? These practically guarantee a never ending trouble with Pakistan supported Taliban.)

In a rather harsh step India yesterday added a big economic issue to the already problematic situation:

India has closed Chenab water flow and as a result the shortage in Pakistan has become more severe.

Sources told Dawn on Sunday that the water blockade by India could adversely affect the Kharif crops, particularly cotton and sugarcane which were in maturity stage and required final watering, and the sowing of Rabi crops early next month.
...
The water shortage could force Pakistan to import more wheat next year, adding to the foreign exchange pressure and worsening its balance of payments crisis.

The authorities are already estimating more than 35 per cent shortage of irrigation water during the next Rabi season following a decline in the melting of snow in Northern Areas, higher withdrawals by provinces during Kharif and increased hydropower generation.

The sources said India’s unilateral decision to stop the Chenab flows had put additional pressure on the irrigation system of Pakistan, which used to receive more than 23,000 cusecs a day until last week, but it had now been brought down to almost zero.

(Chenab is a river (map) of the Indus system that flows from Kashmir to Pakistan. Kharif is the autumn harvest and Rabi the spring harvest period. A cusec is a cubic foot of water flow per second.)

The flow of water from the rivers of the Indus system is essential for Pakistan's electricity generation and for irrigation. Karachi already sees daily long electricity outages and the government recently raised electricity prices by 31%.

India stopping the flow of the Chenab is a violation of the Indus Water Treaty between India and Pakistan.

It is possible that the U.S. has a hand in this and asked India to close the flow. Bush has quite some leverage with New Delhi through the recent nuclear deal. On Friday Syed Saleem Shahzad wrote about the conflict between the U.S. and Pakistan over alleged Taliban support and reminded us:

In this delicate situation, the balance could be tipped by India, on US instigation, mobilizing forces on the Line of Control that separates the Indian- and Pakistan-administered sections of Kashmir, as happened in December 2001. And as happened then, Pakistan will be left with no option but to surrender to America's will in both letter and spirit.

Instead of war at the Line of Control between Kashmir and Pakistan, the threat to Pakistan this time is famine and/or financial ruin. It might fold under this threat or it might get violent over this breach of the international treaty on the river flow.

The new Pakistani president Zardari is visiting London this week and then New York. He will be offered some water. He will also be asked to give the U.S. a free hand to hunt Taliban in Pakistan's tribal eastern areas and to stop firing at U.S. helicopters over Pakistan.

It will be difficult for Zardari to reject the drink.

Posted by b on September 15, 2008 at 07:42 AM |
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 09:57:08 PM
The G7 must hate the Internet!

The operation is not even finished and it is already completely exposed as a G7 sponsored false flag attack by anyone with a third grade education.
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 09:58:11 PM
The G7 must hate the Internet!

oh yes we dont have many problems when they dont attack peeps.
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: OldSchool November 26, 2008, 09:59:15 PM
Just heard on CNN:

security personell were pulled from the Hotels moments before (20-30 min) the attack.  This, ... ... ON CNN!!  Let's see if the sheeple are able to integrate this.

 I would have to consider this a giveaway clue that it was an inside tactic/operation.....
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: skyfind November 26, 2008, 10:03:58 PM
MUST READ!
releated with the propaganda against Pakistan

Plot against Pakistan
http://thepost.com.pk/OpinionNews.aspx?dtlid=194020&catid=11

Final war to be fought in Pakistan
US Gen wary of Qaeda-N-arms nexus in Islamabad
http://thepost.com.pk/Fb_ShortNewsT.aspx?fbshortid=3607&fcatid=14&fstatus=Current&bcatid=14&bstatus=Current

nice site http://thepost.com.pk, keep in the eye for upcoming events , by the .com.pk it seems it is written by pakistan people ; this site is like http://uruknet.info/ for iraq
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: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 10:06:49 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/india.attacks/t1wide.mumbai.daylight.ap.jpg)
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: C November 26, 2008, 10:10:26 PM
Hey, do you have the live stream link to the BBC please?

No I am watching from my television( I am in UK), tried the cnn live stream but won't work on my computer. Try BBC I player. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/news
Although if you're in America it might not work for you. :(
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 10:11:39 PM
more gunshots....

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video_live.aspx?id=0


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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 10:12:40 PM
No I am watching from my television( I am in UK), tried the cnn live stream but won't work on my computer. Try BBC I player. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/news
Although if you're in America it might not work for you. :(

 :'(  maybe the msm hates people but has a service to provide. try independent media, they prove less invasive.
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: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 10:16:13 PM
No I am watching from my television( I am in UK), tried the cnn live stream but won't work on my computer. Try BBC I player. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/news
Although if you're in America it might not work for you. :(

Ah thank you :), I have found the BBC World news online and got it streaming now via Media player.
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 10:21:57 PM
Rofl acording to indian news terrorists at the hotel used zodiac like boats to enter the city near the hotel ummmmm  ::)
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 10:24:32 PM
dark h20
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: TheHouseMan November 26, 2008, 10:26:47 PM
I think we're going to need more information before we can say this a false flag.

There are an enormous amount of people in India, and you're bound to get some terrorism now and then.
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 10:28:49 PM
India intelligence sources now saying that its a international conspiracy that this attack doesnt fit any paterns related to other local groups, looks like india intel is smarter than it looks.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 10:29:07 PM
When is there election? Is it 5 months?
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 10:30:02 PM
India intelligence sources now saying that its a international conspiracy that this attack doesnt fit any paterns related to other local groups, looks like india intel is smarter than it looks.

and its not a false flag how, even they know it.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 10:31:51 PM
I think we're going to need more information before we can say this a false flag.

There are an enormous amount of people in India, and you're bound to get some terrorism now and then.

that was a joke right?

Bound to get some terrorism now and then compared to:

-17 coordinated and timed terrorist events

-car bombs, grenades, heavy machine guns

-media coordination

-motif

-timing chaos to distract froim the high value targets

-over 100 dead, close to 1,000 injured

-tip offs to the hotel prior to the intrusion

-well spoken english by the "terrorists"

-no investigation prior to the naming of Pakistan

-the fake group 'Indian Mujahideen' completely exposed for over 2 months as a G7/CIA/Mossad/Turk/German terrorist false flag cover group

Yeah we will need so much more proof.
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 10:32:28 PM
I think we're going to need more information before we can say this a false flag.

There are an enormous amount of people in India, and you're bound to get some terrorism now and then.

sup o bomb a
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
and its not a false flag how, even they know it.

Ya im agreeing with you even they said that its too much of a coincidence due to elections being so close, the attacks dont fit a pattern and are too organised plus they used zodiacs those aint exactly cheap im sure even in india.
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 10:34:01 PM
India intelligence sources now saying that its a international conspiracy that this attack doesnt fit any paterns related to other local groups, looks like india intel is smarter than it looks.

I don't think they're any smarter or stupider than anyone else.  It's just that they're finding enuf balls in themselves to slowly put this public.  It's a clever statement if they put it in those terms to try to get the sheeple to put 2 and 2 together.
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 10:35:04 PM
Ya im agreeing with you even they said that its too much of a coincidence due to elections being so close, the attacks dont fit a pattern and are too organised plus they used zodiacs those aint exactly cheap im sure even in india.

sanity prevails   ;)

godspeed.
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: SuzakaDusk November 26, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
Via BBC World News :

101 Dead including 6 foreigners.
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 10:38:52 PM
Question is lets see how the west is going to spin those comments from india intel that is if they even report that since im watching a india news chan.
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 10:40:50 PM
they wont even cover it, that will skyrocket the info here in the alt press. it will make faux and cnn die.
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: Dig November 26, 2008, 10:40:54 PM
Yeah the CIA would never infiltrate Indian intelligence...

2004...



India's CIA spy scandal
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jid/jid040701_1_n.shtml
01 July 2004

India's external intelligence service, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has launched a major internal investigation for possible moles following the apparent defection of a senior officer recruited by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

The Indian government fears that the defection of Rabinder Singh, who held the senior rank of joint secretary and who headed the agency's Southeast Asia department, is only the tip of the iceberg in a possible infiltration operation by the CIA and Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence service.

The focus of the investigation will be RAW, as well as the Intelligence Bureau, which handles counterintelligence and the Defence Intelligence Agency. The mole hunt is expected to extend to Indian embassies around the world where RAW personnel operate under diplomatic protection, particularly those who liaise with foreign intelligence agencies.

According to informed intelligence sources, several Indian operatives have already been suspended pending investigation. One senior intelligence official committed suicide on 13 June in New Delhi, although it is not yet clear whether this incident was linked to the current Singh investigation.

The scandal, which broke on 5 June, risks damaging India's post-11 September 2001 strategic alliance with the USA and an earlier one with Israel, Washington's key ally in the Middle East. It is also likely to result in New Delhi placing limitations on intelligence sharing with both the USA and Israeli, which could impact on the US-led 'war on terrorism'.

India has decades of experience in combating such militants based in Pakistan and Afghanistan. There is speculation that the current scandal, which could extend throughout the Indian intelligence establishment, will also result in a wide ranging shake-up and reorganisation of the Indian intelligence agencies.

Predictably, Indian security authorities are saying little about the Singh case, but domestic sources report that counterintelligence became suspicious of Singh about six months ago, putting him under surveillance and tapping his telephones. It is not clear what alerted security authorities, but he was confronted by counterintelligence officials on 19 April (shortly after he had been in the USA) and questioned about 'sensitive files' he had allegedly removed from RAW's headquarters in south New Delhi.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 10:43:12 PM
11 locations now...
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 10:43:27 PM
Interesting sane
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: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 10:44:30 PM


  Anybody wonder why the Indian Government hasn't had any kind of press conference? or the Mumbia mayor or police?  Nothing coming out but rumors.
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: Hawkwind November 26, 2008, 10:44:37 PM
heres another coincidence

"And Australian actress Brooke Satchwell has told how she hid in a cupboard in one of the hotels taken over by terrorists firing guns. "

shes a well known actress from australias show "neighbours"

you know they like to plant celebrities in these things as they are useful propaganda tools....think of the TV exclusives.
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 10:48:35 PM
No press yet since its still going on they still got hostages but acording to indian news indias pm is holding a security meeting right now.
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: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 10:49:07 PM



  CNN calls this Obama's 1st real test.  Give us a break!  He's not on the job yet!
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: Hawkwind November 26, 2008, 10:50:09 PM
they are already saying this is the "first test" for obama on cnn so looks like its already a talking point...looks like 22nd of jan surprise came early
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 10:52:51 PM
Ohh ya forgot to say earlier on cnn they were saying condoleza rice was on the phone with goverment in india and that in the reporters opinion most likely they are offering help if they need anti terrorist teams or forensic teams that they whould help.
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: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 10:53:20 PM


  Just speculating but the 22 Jan could be the next war--- setting it up for Pakistan or Iran
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 10:54:53 PM
India news now reporting 8 hostages at the taj hotel possibly israeli, interesting  ::), their saying pm will only adress the nation after anti-terror ops are finished.
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: Puff1 November 26, 2008, 10:59:08 PM
11 locations now...

Interesting.  Though I hope it stops at that.

Pay attention to the numbers. 
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: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 11:00:20 PM



Thank you for the Indian updates.  Israelis---that would be some story if true.  Keep us updated.
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 11:01:35 PM
Interesting one guy has relatives inside and he said he cant reach them anymore their cells were confiscated by the hotel manager ummm  :o
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 11:02:04 PM
82 dead now. -abc -ap
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 11:03:34 PM
Mumbai attacks: 6 foreigners among 101 dead

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai_attacks_6_foreigners_among_101_dead/articleshow/3761410.cms
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 11:06:35 PM
Interesting one guy has relatives inside and he said he cant reach them anymore their cells were confiscated by the hotel manager ummm  :o

Realllllly?

Man--we need to DOCUMENT THIS!

It just gets nastier and nastier.

We got enough shit for another Alex Jones Documentary already
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: larsonstdoc November 26, 2008, 11:07:04 PM


  Why would the hotel manager take their cell phones?
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: Amd304912 November 26, 2008, 11:08:38 PM

  Why would the hotel manager take their cell phones?

qd - quiet dissent
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 11:09:26 PM
Dont know but thats what he said, again this was just a regular person who has relatives inside, but ya why whouldent they want info coming out from people inside?, their reporting that the terrorists who attacked the train station are still at large, also terrorist took over a building in a israeli neighborhood and are currently still inside.
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: Tundra November 26, 2008, 11:10:30 PM
They keep flashing a picture of some crazed looking guy.  Anyone have a link to this?


By the way, when I first started tuning it at like 9pm, the guests were basically calling for world government, and further stroking Obama.  Amazing.
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: LoreOnTerror November 26, 2008, 11:12:29 PM
They just said "inside job" on CNN! lmao
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 11:13:29 PM
Ahh i knew they were going to spin it someway.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 11:45:26 PM
We want all Mujahideen released: Terrorist inside Oberoi

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/We_want_all_mujahideen_released_says_terrorist/articleshow/3762100.cms
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 11:48:32 PM
They just said "inside job" on CNN! lmao

Really, who said that?  Some man-on-the-street interview or an anchor??
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 11:50:07 PM
Really, who said that?  Some man-on-the-street interview or an anchor??

one of the guest
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 11:51:04 PM
Argh anyone get this for 10m Connection Problems
Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later.
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 11:51:46 PM
Argh anyone get this for 10m Connection Problems
Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later.


me too
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 11:54:28 PM
And the live india news stream went down as well has not been working i guess it cant handle the bandwith :(
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: Hawkwind November 26, 2008, 11:57:14 PM
They keep flashing a picture of some crazed looking guy.  Anyone have a link to this?


By the way, when I first started tuning it at like 9pm, the guests were basically calling for world government, and further stroking Obama.  Amazing.

yes im looking for a pic of this guy too, it seems to have dissipated into the ether, they were flashing it all over cnn a few hours ago

anyone hear about the head of Mumbais ATS (anti terror squad) Hemant Karkare being killed by "three gunshots to the chest"? reminds me of pat tillman, those shots would have been close range, i wonder what Hemant Karkare knew?

heres an interesting post i found on yahoo answers:

Looks like Hemant Karkare, the ATS chief, was himself a pawn?

1) The news that Hemant Karkare has received death threats (no proof) is widely publicised.
2) 10 days before attacks security barricades around Taj hotel are removed (why?)
3) Then the Media publicises news about 'Malegaon Revelations' and that there is 'complete evidence' aagainst Hindus
4) Then the Mumbai attacks take place.

Why? Because the conspirators hoped that the blame will naturally fall on Hindus.

Also it seems that Hemant Karkare never expected to be killed (the TV channels clearly showed him being strapped with a bullet proof jacket, and riot gear helmet - so who killed him?)

Hemant Karkare was only a pawn, killed before the truth came out.

But the fact is that the photographed terrorist looks very much like the young, smiling Pakistani jehadis who are brainwashed into thinking that 'they will go to heaven' by killing innocent people

The truth always triumphs - Satyamev Jayate

O Bhagavan we surrender ourselves at your feet and seek your protection.

Jai Bhagavan!

http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081126152339AAZYzSN
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: mrwise November 26, 2008, 11:58:55 PM
The live feed is working for me actually:

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video_live.aspx?id=0 (http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video_live.aspx?id=0)
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: Baihuigau November 26, 2008, 11:59:25 PM
Heres what he knew http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video.aspx?id=45218 ahh dam stream not working basically he was investingating something related to some bombings a while back related to the india mujahadeen thing  ::)
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: voodo0 November 26, 2008, 11:59:57 PM
       Hostages at Nariman House, Trident, Taj
       3 flights cancelled, trains running late
       BSE, NSE to be shut today
       Schools, colleges shut; varsity cancels exam
      Eleven terror attacks rock Mumbai

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/default.aspx
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:02:07 AM
None of the streams from ndtv are working did a traceroute looks like a peering link from qwest is down. puts on his tinfoil hat o.0... good its back
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: Puff1 November 27, 2008, 12:06:48 AM
one of the guest

I lost the connection too shortly after I made a post on this thread (said the server was busy.)  When I was finally able to connect again, I was cyber attacked - my mouse froze up as well - it wouldn't even move the arrow on the screen.  I rebooted and it's working now. 
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 12:07:13 AM
cnn....

"security loosened a week ago"
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 12:08:16 AM
I lost the connection too shortly after I made a post on this thread (said the server was busy.)  When I was finally able to connect again, I was cyber attacked - my mouse froze up as well - it wouldn't even move the arrow on the screen.  I rebooted and it's working now. 

me too...for about ten min.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:09:44 AM
Well the stream is back if you want to watch uncensored since half of this news probably wont make it to this side of the world lol http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video_live.aspx?id=0
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: larsonstdoc November 27, 2008, 12:09:51 AM
I lost the connection too shortly after I made a post on this thread (said the server was busy.)  When I was finally able to connect again, I was cyber attacked - my mouse froze up as well - it wouldn't even move the arrow on the screen.  I rebooted and it's working now. 
   



  Same here for about 1 hr.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:13:08 AM
Their saying still 4-5 terrorist in the hotel and at least 40 hostages or more their saying for people to be in the long haul since they need to check every body for booby traps. Pakistan foreign minister advising they will cooperate with any india investigation, umm makes it look more and more like a false flag op by western agencies.
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: Hawkwind November 27, 2008, 12:20:53 AM
5 israeli "hostages"
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 12:21:58 AM
NBC reporting 100 Western Hostiges still being held at gunpoint
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 12:24:33 AM
NBC "May be another scale of attacks" , "Highly coordinated" etcc.... preparing ppl for more  :o
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 12:25:12 AM
NBC "May be another scale of attacks" , "Highly coordinated" etcc.... preparing ppl for more  :o

yep, there going all out
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:26:06 AM
Lol cnn reporting that all hostages at the taj hotel have been freed which is not true some are still inside being held.
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: Cobra November 27, 2008, 12:33:47 AM
Lol cnn reporting that all hostages at the taj hotel have been freed which is not true some are still inside being held.

Freed....just like that, huh?

Nope, nothing fishy.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 12:34:58 AM
Lol cnn reporting that all hostages at the taj hotel have been freed which is not true some are still inside being held.

yeah, india t.v. just said 100!
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: Cobra November 27, 2008, 12:36:43 AM
Very, very interestingly, this comes at a time when the new president of Pakistan has, in fact, gone further than any previous Pakistani leader in saying they want to improve relations with India, in saying they want to jointly combat terrorism together. The Pakistani president even went so far as saying he would consider renouncing a nuclear strike on India.

CNN-Amanpour

Well. Well. peace between India and pakistan isn't good for business. Now is it?
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: mrwise November 27, 2008, 12:37:35 AM
Lol cnn reporting that all hostages at the taj hotel have been freed which is not true some are still inside being held.

Indian TV is reporting that hundreds of hostages are still being held captive and the rescue efforts are going to commence soon.  The anchors on the Indian News channels are opening calling this an "international conspiracy."  NO joke.  (But they might mean something else entirely)
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:38:29 AM
The pakistani foreign minister also said a while ago that they whould offer a direct line between pakistani and india inteligence agencies if they wanted ummm, I thin what they mean is that no way local groups could be this organized that they had to had alot of training help basically hinting other foreign groups hint hint.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:42:48 AM
On a lighter funny note they canceled the next two national league cricket matches now their going to get really pissed off lol  :D
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 12:47:13 AM
Report: Shots at Mumbai office of Jewish group

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hz0C0SXcxgP0NxzlqGA_EI57FBkQD94N307O0
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 12:49:27 AM
Jewish rabbi, family being held hostage by Mumbai gunmen: group

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Jewish_rabbi_family_being_held_hostage_by_Mumbai_gunmen_group/articleshow/3763235.cms
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:51:12 AM
Yup their saying because of that and the way the attacks are being made it doesnt match any know operations done by local groups before.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 12:55:05 AM
CNN-Amanpour

Well. Well. peace between India and pakistan isn't good for business. Now is it?
Amanpour is f**king evil, you have no idea
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 12:57:42 AM
who is this guy on cnn? saying that the u.s. funds these guys. its awsome!
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:57:55 AM
Their reporting 7 suspects in one hotel and maybe 9 in the other plus the others in the jewish house plus the ones they captured and killed that is insanely huge there is no way a no name outfit just pops up and coordinates something in this scale.
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: InfoTruth November 27, 2008, 01:02:42 AM
who is this guy on cnn? saying that the u.s. funds these guys. its awsome!

Deepak Chopra and they cut him off. Lol
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:07:31 AM
Deepak Chopra and they cut him off. Lol

...bastards
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:10:17 AM
time's of india breaking

u.s. intelligence official's killed at taj


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/


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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:11:38 AM
Interesting a police official just said that terrorists havent made any demands yet ummm  ???
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: Tundra November 27, 2008, 01:11:50 AM
Deepak was stroking Obama, saying the terrorists feel threatened by his "diplomacy", and saying we need international cooperation to stop terrorism or something like that, repeated calls for world government.  As far as "funding terrorists", the only thing I picked up on was his references to oil money going to Saudis, not about false flag/black ops.
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: InfoTruth November 27, 2008, 01:13:58 AM
He said how are the terrorist so organized then he said because of the west and money.
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: Tundra November 27, 2008, 01:15:22 AM
Mumbai now under curfew
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:16:54 AM
time's of india breaking

u.s. intelligence official's killed at taj


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/




...
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:19:17 AM
Ya i noticed that we need some more confirmation on that, interesting twist hey.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:20:16 AM
Ya i noticed that we need some more confirmation on that, interesting twist hey.

got that right!
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:24:54 AM
check the middle pages of googles recent hits on this topic NeoCon news outlets are using this as an excuse for U.S. to be in India Pakistan and even Indonesia
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:28:44 AM
Yup their already spining the story that the decan are a offshoot cell from indian mujahdeen. Their coming u on their 12th hour of the siege so who knows how long these terrorists been awake you whould think that they whould be falling asleep by now lol.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:35:38 AM
Cnn.com- "Authorities found 8 kilograms (17 pounds) of RDX, one of the most powerful kinds of military explosives, at a restaurant near the Taj, indicating that the attackers may have been planning more attacks." ummmmm  8) cnn giving us little hints ;). You know your a cool commando when you wear bright blue camo uniform lol
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:36:41 AM
Cnn.com- "Authorities found 8 kilograms (17 pounds) of RDX, one of the most powerful kinds of military explosives, at a restaurant near the Taj, indicating that the attackers may have been planning more attacks." ummmmm  8) cnn giving us little hints ;).

I know, right! F*ucking cnn...

p.s. I hate Barbara Starr
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 01:40:59 AM
http://www.gboltondebbage.co.uk/mumbaiattacks/

Archive of some of the news so far... just in case.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:41:42 AM
Nice dsyd
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: Hawkwind November 27, 2008, 01:43:16 AM
Police operations to flush out gunmen from the hotels were ongoing. About four to six of them were believed to be holed up in the Taj; another two to four in Oberoi, said A.N. Roy, the Maharashtra police chief.

Authorities found 8 kilograms (17 pounds) of RDX, one of the most powerful kinds of military explosives, at a restaurant near the Taj, indicating that the attackers may have been planning more attacks.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/india.attacks/
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:44:54 AM
At the same time the rdx could have been a plant if their able to track where it came from.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:46:49 AM
For those of you who dont understand how big this is gonna be tomorrow, and what it will lead to:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/This_is_Indias_911/articleshow/3763162.cms
'This is India's 9/11'

NEW YORK: Outraged at the Mumbai terror attack, Indians in the US and community organizations termed it as India 9/11 and an assault on its 
financial heart.

"Like 9/11 (the Sep 11, 2001 terror attack on the US), this attack was on India's financial capital," said the Hindu America Foundation.

Urging for calm and restraint by the people, the Foundation demanded the Maharashtra state government and the union government take emergency measures to halt further attacks and bring the terrorists to justice.

"It is our hope that the international community and the Indian government will wake up to the reality of terrorists in their midst and take immediate steps to ensure security for its people," said Suhag Shukla, the HAF managing director.

Federation of South Asian American Communities (FOSAAC) chief Kevin Kaul condemned the attack and said it is an act of cowardice. 
 
 
 
Click here to comment on this story.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:48:49 AM
more than 120 dead now....
indian tv
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:49:26 AM
India intelligence - decca mujahadeen is a red herring: just in case Red herring (logical fallacy), a deliberate attempt to change a subject or divert an argument.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:50:15 AM
Amanpour is f**king evil, you have no idea

Agreed

time's of india breaking

u.s. intelligence official's killed at taj


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/

They killed one of the "terrorists" and he happens to be a US intelligence agent, so now it is spun that the US intelligence agent was "killed by the terrorists."

This operation is unwinding quickly.

The whole thing is a total false flag.

No US, UK hostages, so now they are trying to say their are jewish hostages.

This was Mossad/MI6/CIA/German intel/Turkish intel all the way.

This was a total G7 false flag and now the cockroaches are spinning out of control.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:51:59 AM
Agreed

They killed one of the "terrorists" and he happens to be a US intelligence agent, so now it is spun that the US intelligence agent was "killed by the terrorists."

This operation is unwinding quickly.

The whole thing is a total false flag.

No US, UK hostages, so now they are trying to say their are jewish hostages.

This was Mossad/MI6/CIA/German intel/Turkish intel all the way.

This was a total G7 false flag and now the cochroaches are spinning out of control.

exactly!
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:52:26 AM
And indian in intel is not buying it see my post above.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:53:29 AM
 
India intelligence - decca mujahadeen is a red herring: just in case Red herring (logical fallacy), a deliberate attempt to change a subject or divert an argument.
;)

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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:57:50 AM
And indian in intel is not buying it see my post above.

Indian Intel just lost the head of their outfit.

It is like Tillman's mother and Perl's father.  They are probably pissed off!

Miscalculations and sheer audacity seems to run these operations today.

After 9/11, 7/7, and Bali they think they can do this anywhere, but the false flags are being exposed all over the world.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=71836.0
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:02:33 AM
indian intel - foreign hands fully evident, man their just laying on the heavy sauce lol.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 02:04:54 AM
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mumbais-night-of-terror-without-end/391225/

Mumbai : Anti-Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare, encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar, 3 other officers killed in gunbattle
Oberoi, Taj, VT among 9 places attacked with guns, grenades
78 killed, 200 injured, tourists hostage n NSG flies in,
Army on alert
Mumbai, the gateway to India, has been stormed by terrorists.
A city in siege and a horrified nation watched perhaps the most audacious attack by terrorists at home as heavily armed men, with automatic weapons, grenades and low-intensity bombs, struck at least nine locations killing over 70 people and wounding some 200.

Landmark symbols of cosmopolitanism and affluence as well as public hubs were targeted. The dead included top police officers such as the chief of the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad Hemant Karkare, Additional Commissioner (East) Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Inspector Vijay Salaskar. All were killed fighting the attackers.

The attacks, sophisticated and co-ordinated on a scale never seen before, continued well into the night as reports trickled in of fresh explosions and continuing gun battles
Two of the suspected attackers were shot dead in an encounter near the popular and crowded Girgaum Chowpatty off Marine Drive a little after midnight. But there was no immediate information available about the identity of those attackers or their accomplices, some of whom were seen by witnesses carrying automatic rifles and carrying haversacks.
The attacks began in south Mumbai around 9.30 pm as the business district wound up for the day and hotels and restaurants were filled with guests — a sharp contrast to the serial blasts on local trains in July 2006 which targeted passengers during peak commute hour after work.

The targets included two five-star hotels, the historic Taj Mahal hotel near the Gateway of India and the Trident in Nariman Point; Café Leopold, a restaurant popular with locals and foreign tourists in Colaba; the crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station or Victoria Terminus (VT) as it was earlier called, from where the violence spread to the nearby Metro Cinema multiplex; a taxi under a flyover in Vile Parle; and another taxi near the Dockyard Road station.

Café Leopold, Colaba
It all started at this popular watering hole a little before 9.30 p.m. when three men inside the busy restaurant pulled out machine guns from haversacks and began to shoot indiscriminately.

“There were three men shooting inside Café Leopold. As the crowd started fleeing, two more people started shooting from outside the hotel. I saw one of them reload the gun and...
Mumbai : again engaged in the shooting spree. The entire episode lasted for some 20 minutes,” said Sheikh Pasha, who was hanging out near the restobar in Colaba. According to him, the attackers had ‘huge guns’ and were carrying a haversack bag.
“After the firing ended, I saw a man and a woman lying in a pool of blood. The assailants later took the lane which leads to the Taj hotel,” said Andrei Tambunan, a freelance American photographer who was at a cyber café, near the restobar. Six bodies, including those of some foreigners, were taken out of the restobar.

The Taj Mahal Hotel
After Leopold, next to be attacked was the Taj Mahal Hotel, a few hundred metres away. The attackers, eyewitness said, entered the Taj hotel at around 10 pm.

“The men came on the ground floor towards the pool side area and started firing indiscriminately at anything that moved. A man next to me was shot and died,” said an eyewitness who managed to escape the hotel. Senior officials of Hindustan Lever were present on the first floor of the hotel when the incident occurred.

the hotel, there were two dead bodes near the swimming pool, two more in an upstairs corridor where police were combing. All those inside the hotel at the time had been huddled into small rooms by the staff, some into the chambers in the basement. “We could hear the gunshots coming closer, then the glass in the Crystal Room shattered,” said one diner.
“We crouched on the floor while the shooting continued,” she continued. “Then the staff came and took us into the chambers inside.”

Later, there were two more explosions heard at the Taj. The devastation in the second round of attacks here was massive, said reports.

CST
Four men with automatic rifles entered the CST station around 10 pm and two started firing indiscriminately first towards the crowd outside and then inside the station. The other two were spotted rushing towards the Metro Cinema multiplex via the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation offices and the Azad Maidan next door. The two holed up inside the station took refuge in an empty local train coach and were apparently cornered by police. But they had killed at least 10 people by then and wounded 30.

TRIDENT
Firing heard around 10.10 p.m. near the hotel, just across The Indian Express office at Express Towers, forcing guests and taxi drivers outside to...

 flee. Bodies were taken out and frightened hotel staffers came out crying. Glass windows in the upper floors of the Trident were being shattered.
“Bachao Bachao,” people were shouting from behind them. A brief while later, two explosions hit the hotel within minutes of each other and sparked a fire.

VILE PARLE
A powerful blast occurred in a taxi around 10.30 p.m. killing its lone passenger and driver on the spot.

Witnesses said the power of the blast was such that the head of one of the victims was flung about 200 metres into the premises of the Golden Swan City Club nearby. The taxi was ripped apart into three pieces....
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 02:06:40 AM
India intelligence - decca mujahadeen is a red herring: just in case Red herring (logical fallacy), a deliberate attempt to change a subject or divert an argument.

Got a link for this one?
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:08:16 AM
ya its coming from the ndtv.com live stream http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video_live.aspx?id=0
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:12:39 AM
Does Deepak Chopra have a website with a live forum?

I think he is NWO and Indian.

Maybe the Indian in him is speaking out as he now sees what the NWO truly is.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:14:53 AM
Here you go Sane http://discussion.chopra.com/
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 02:15:40 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/homepageCrisis/idUSSP355003._CH_.2400

.Mumbai gunmen battle army, foreigners held hostage
Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:03am EST  
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1 of 1Full Size* Suspected Islamist gunmen hold foreigners hostage

* Commandos surround hotels, intermittent firing

* At least 101 people killed, 287 wounded

* British, Americans apparently targeted

By Rina Chandran

MUMBAI, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Suspected Islamist gunmen launched waves of attacks in the heart of India's financial capital, killing at least 101 people and taking many foreigners hostage in two of the city's plushest hotels, police said on Thursday.

The late-night attacks sent shockwaves through an economy already under strain. Authorities closed stock, bond and foreign exchanges as commandos and armed police laid siege to the gunmen.

Some 16 hours into the crisis, scores of tourists remained trapped in the Taj Mahal hotel, a 105-year-old city landmark, and at the five-star Trident Oberoi in Mumbai's downtown peninsula, the city's financial and tourist heart, officials said.

At least 101 people were killed, including six foreigners, police said. Another 287 people were wounded in the attacks, which were claimed by the little-known Deccan Mujahideen group.

One militant inside the Oberoi told Indian television by phone that the hostages would only be freed when all mujahideens, or Islamic holy warriors, being held in Indian jails were freed.

The man, who identified himself only as Sahadullah, said he was one of seven attackers inside the hotel.

"Release all the mujahideens, and Muslims living in India should not be troubled," he said.

The central bank closed the bond and foreign exchange markets but said it would continue auctions to keep cash flowing through interbank lending markets, which seized up after the global financial crisis destroyed Wall Street banks in September. [ID:nBOM333116]

The attacks were bound to spook investors in one of Asia's largest and fastest-growing economies. Mumbai has seen several major bomb attacks in the past, but never anything so obviously targeted at foreigners.

Foreigners have already been heavy sellers of Indian assets and a steep fall in the Indian rupee was now feared.

Nerves were already clearly rattled. Credit default swaps, insurance-like contracts on the State Bank of India's five-year bonds, widened 15 basis points to 435 basis points.

Trade Minister Kamal Nath described the attacks as "an unfortunate event" but said HE did not expect they would slow investment. [ID:nDEL364718]

The attacks could be another blow for the Congress Party-led government ahead of a general election due by early 2009.

The government has suffered a string of state election losses in the last year. The main Hindu-nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, which has done well in state polls, has criticised the government for being soft on terrorism after a series of bomb attacks in Indian cities this year.

Strategic expert Uday Bhaskar said the attacks had grave implications for India on many levels.

"The fact that they were trying to segregate British and American passport holders definitely suggests Islamist fervour," Bhaskar said.

MANY TRAPPED

Small groups of militants armed with automatic weapons and grenades burst into the luxury hotels, a hospital and a railway station late on Wednesday, as well as a famous cafe popular with foreign tourists, firing indiscriminately and tossing grenades.

"There are many people trapped inside the two hotels it seems, and we are hearing reports of constant gunfire, mostly from the Taj hotel," a duty officer at the Mumbai police control room said.

The attackers appeared to target British and Americans as they sought hostages. Police said an Israeli rabbi and his family were being held hostage in a Mumbai apartment. [ID:nSP366813]

Witnesses said the attackers were young South Asian men speaking Hindi or Urdu. (For a factbox on who might be behind the attacks click on [ID:nSP351489])

Television footage showed gunmen in a pick-up truck spraying people with rifle fire as the vehicle drove down a Mumbai street.

Hotel staff were seen evacuating wounded on luggage trolleys, with passers-by covered in blood after they rushed to help. Some clambered down ladders to safety.

Other distressed guests stood at hotel windows, although a slow trickle could later be seen leaving the Taj hotel through a back gate, surrounded by heavily armed troops and police.

Schools were closed and a curfew was imposed around the Gateway of India, a colonial-era monument. But train services were running as normal taking people to work in the stunned city.

GUNMEN, POLICE KILLED

Police said they had shot dead four gunmen and arrested nine suspects. They said 12 policemen were killed, including Hemant Karkare, the chief of the police anti-terrorist squad in Mumbai.

As dawn broke on the red, white and grey brick facade of the Taj on Mumbai's waterfront, the hotel was surrounded by armed police, ambulances and fire engines.

At least two guests, trapped in their rooms in the Taj, phoned TV stations. One said the firedoors were locked, another said he had seen two dead bodies by the swimming pool.

"Two of my colleagues are still in there and the last we heard from them was three hours ago and then the phone battery died," said a German national who escaped the Taj.

Rakesh Patel, a British witness who was staying at the Taj Mahal hotel on business, said the attackers were looking for British and U.S. passport holders.

"They came from the restaurant and took us up the stairs. They had bombs. "Young boys, maybe 20 years old, 25 years old. They had two guns," he told the NDTV channel, smoke stains covering his face.

Japan's foreign ministry said at least one Japanese national had been killed and one injured in the attacks, while South Korea said 26 of its nationals had escaped unharmed. Australia said two of its nationals had been injured but the toll could rise.

In Washington, the White House and President-elect Barack Obama condemned the attacks, as did France, current president of the European Union, and U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

Bruce McIndoe, a travel security expert and President of iJET Intelligent Risk Systems, a private intelligence firm, said he had already advised his corporate clients to postpone travel to Mumbai, and warned there would be "ripple effects". (Reporting by New Delhi and Mumbai bureaux; Writing by Paul Tait; Editing by John Chalmers)



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: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 02:17:55 AM
This is a precursor to a stock market crash tomorrow maybe?
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:20:31 AM
Dont think so not big enough to affect the us, futures is at -69.00 im sure it will rally up.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:23:09 AM
APFN
Terror attack in Mumbai - Another False Flag?
Wed Nov 26, 2008 16:00
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=121869;title=APFN

Terror attack in Mumbai - Another False Flag?
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/video_streaming.php

Webmaster\'s Commentary:
FOX News is reporting that Pakistan\'s ISI is behind the attack even
though Indian media is saying nobody has claimed responsibility yet
for the attacks.

THE LAVON AFFAIR IS HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html?q=lavon.html

In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several
buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left
evidence behind implicating Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would
have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing
the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in
turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring.

Webmaster\'s Commentary:
Worth remembering as the events in Mumbai unfold.

BRITS SAY ISRAEL STAGED 1976 HIJACKING
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/israel_staged_1976_hijacking.htm
l
Documents recently made public by the British government reveal that
Israel played a direct role in the notorious hijacking of an Air
France plane to Idi Amin?s Entebbe in 1976 and cooperated with the
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) in staging the
event remembered today as ?the Entebbe Incident.?

In documents recently released and now sitting in the National
Archives in London, D.H. Colvin?a British diplomat working in Paris?
wrote that, according to sources he knew, ?the hijacking was the work
of the PFLP, with help from the Israeli Secret Service, the Shin Bet.?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mossad behind the mass terror attack in Mumbai, India?
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/9310

When I first read the news of the coordinated attacks on specific places firing automatic rifles and lobbing grenades in the city of Mumbai on the west coast of India that occured Wednesday night, I deduce it is Mossad in the planning and execution of the attack -- by themselves or the deployment of Manchurian candidates -- to provoke international outrage towards the designated enemy. Over 80 persons died and more than 250 wounded.

Turns out this might be the case. Mossad allegedly had a hand in Mumbai train attacks two years prior.

In BBC online article, it reported "A witness told local television that the gunmen were looking for people with British or US passport."

Here's the bizarre article ("CIA, MOSSAD HAND BEHIND SANGH PARIVAR'S EXTREMISTS") recently posted as translated from Urdu.

Why Mossad chose to attack Mumbai is not a mystery. It is a financial capital of the entire country, similar to Wall Street of New York City in the U.S. But for what motives? We can only speculate.

A reminder, Crime of Zion exposed Mossad's role in attack on U.S. Embassy in Yemen.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As a side note, this is an international conglomerate of G7 intel.

Blaming only Pakistan, only US, or only Israel is a huge mistake.

It is a G7 NWO outfit.  Countries are losing sovereignty and the G7 intel agencies all work together to continue their control of the banking/drug cartels.

Watch the Tatum Chronicles, he spells it all out.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: America2 November 27, 2008, 02:26:25 AM
This is a precursor to a stock market crash tomorrow maybe?

It's already broken anyways, so it'll likely continue its slow and painful death regardless of what happens.

I agree though-it's a precursor to SOMETHING, but can't put my finger on which.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:27:40 AM
The hard right in India has been staging false flags for many years with G7 special operation help.

This person does a huge analysis of the last attacks over a long history, he published this last year:

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Hyderabad, India: False-Flag Assassination By Singh Government?
by Daniel Neun | August 26, 2007 at 08:53 am
 http://www.nowpublic.com/hyderabad-india-false-flag-assassination-singh-government
by Daniel Neun



Hyderabad, India: The same story as every time, Citizens of the
World. Muslims killing muslims while actually targeting a government, a
military, a secret service but because they are muslims they are
terrorists missing that target and kill muslims and simply all on sight
in blind, devilish, but cold-blodded organized anger.

Report:

40 people were killed Saturday in blasts a state chief minister
blamed on "Islamic militants based in Bangladesh or Pakistan". The
corporate media is full of sad victim stories, bloody details and
politicians who know what to do - blame it to "islamists" and the
long-time adverse neighbour countries.(1)

Actually nothing fits in that official story, nothing.



STORIES ABOUT MURDER AND CONTRADICTIONS

Today President Pratibha Devisingh Patil and Prime Minister Manmohan
Singh condemned "twin bomb blasts" and "two near-simultaneous powerful
explosions..around 7.45 p.m." in Hyderabad (2) and told the Public of
the World that every ministry hold talks with every administration, the
union home ministry with Pradesh administration, Home Secretary Gupta
with the state chief secretary and senior officials with officials, so:
don´t panic.

At the same time everybody was talking about Pakistan, Bangladesh and "islamists".

But there weren´t "twin bomb blasts". Many papers and online-magazines tell us about three or even more bombs that went off.

And these werent "near-simultaneous" explosions. There appeared to be
minutes between them. And it´s also not verified at what time exactly
the people of Hyderabad got murdered.

The different versions:

"Sify News" (3):

There were 5 minutes between the two blasts.

The first one: in an open air auditorium in Lumbini Park near the state
secretariat in the heart of the city when a laser show was underway.

The second one: at the popular Gokul Chat shop at Koti locality.

In spite of the 5 minutes gap between the explosions "Sify News" is also using the term "near-simultaneous".

"Yahoo" (4):

A senior police officer says the blasts occurred within 10 minutes of each other (!) at around 7:40 p.m. local time (1010 EDT).

There were three bombs, one at a street-side food stall and two in an amusement park.

"DNA" (5):

Another bomb was allegedly found planted underneath a foot-over-bridge with a timer set for 9.30 pm, police sources said.

Why this? A timer set for 9.30 pm almost two hours after a massacre?

This bomb was ment to be found.

TDP President and former Chief Minister N Chandrababu Naidu alleged the incidents were a result of "intelligence failure".

Inteligence failure..Why are they calling secret military units and services "intelligence"? Who came up with this?



"To be precise, a total of five explosive devices were used", Balwinder
Singh, Hyderabad police chief, told reporters (6,7). Another source
also talks about 5 explosions, according to Hyderabad police. (10)

Add the "senior police officer" who said "the blasts occurred within 10
minutes of each other" and it is clear that there is something
completely wrong about the "condemnation" of "twin bomb attacks" by
President Pratibha Devisingh Patil and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

At the same time a honorable guy called "Ajai Sahni", who´s head of the
New Delhi-based Institute for Conflict Management tells us:

the attacks "appear to be linked to what we call Pakistan-backed Islamic terrorist groups."

India celebrated the 60th anniversary of its independence on August 15,
authorities stepped up security across the country after - as the Sing
government asserts - new threats by "Al-Qaeda" and "separatist
rebels".(10)

Is there someone trying to drag India and Pakistan into war? With the
most stupid blabla ever appeared in human history of a
muslim-arabic-dangerous bearded grandpa called "Osama Bin Laden" and a
phantom called "Al Kaida" or "al-qaida" or "Al Qaeda"´n stuff who wants
to conquer the world while US forces invaded two countries in Arabia
and Asia and threatens Iran, Syria, even Pakistan with the use of
deadly force?



MORE SUSPICIOUS DETAILS

Among those who visited the spot were Chief Minister Y.S. Rajashekar
Reddy, Home Minister K. Jana Reddy, BJP MLA G. Kishan Reddy and TRS
Leader, A. Narendra (8).

Looks like a bunch of V.I.P guys queued up actually. Do they live around the corner or what? What´s this supposed to mean?

The blast happens opposite of the Women´s College of Koti. Leaders of
various political parties rushing to the blast spot and adding to the
confusion and panic, they are starting to throw stones at each other.
Rapid Action Force appears on the scene and gets involved.

The work of the Clues Team, looking for crucial evidence, gets hampered. (8)

Is India the natural home of stupid, tragic accidents? Or does that fit to an organized plot?

Meanwhile "The Hindu" is fogging the issue and playing the game of
benefiting the security apparatus. Also this sort-of "special media"
tries to channel public interest immediately at Kashmir and technical
questions.

"Security experts say a strong intelligence network and strengthening
of information-gathering capabilities of forces are the only way to
tackle the latest threat."

Man, that´s bloody promotion.

Saturday's bomb attacks in Hyderabad come three months after a bomb
went off in a historic mosque in the southern city in May, which killed
11 people. On Saturday, police patrols were visible in the city as many
marriages are planned for Sunday with Aug 26 seen as an auspicious day
for Hindus. (11)

So this was an attack on a day auspicious for Hindus in a place where
police controlled the area in a town where Muslims had been killed
before by military ("terrorist") acts (and after that by the police
themselves) and again: there are allegedly killing Muslims Muslims? Who
likes that stupid stuff?



THE BOMBING IN MUMBAI (BOMBAY) ON JULY 11, 2006

At that day in India a series of explosions kill hundreds of people in on crowded commuter trains and stations.

According to CNN, all "seven blasts came within an 11-minute span, between 6:24 and 6:35 p.m. (12:54 and 1:05 p.m. GMT)". (12)

Why did the authorities not act in that 11-minute span between the
assassinations? Maybe because all telephone lines, including mobiles,
were jammed (!) immediately after the blasts. (13)



One person was arrested in New Delhi in police raids immediately after the explosions. (1)

How come?

Indian Home Minister Shivraj Patil said the government had some advance
knowledge that such an attack might take place. "What we didn't have
was the place and the time," Patil said. (1)

What a pity.

By the way: 24 hours later, at the Israel-Lebanon border, eight Israeli
soldiers were killed and two kidnapped, following an attack of
Hizbullah on the border with Lebanon. Hizbullah simultaneously launched
Katyusha attacks against Israel. Thereafter the Lebanon War began.(14)



THE FOLLOWING WAR IN TIMES OF HIGH TENSIONS AFTER AN "ISLAMIC TERRORIST ATTACK" (15)

On March 8, 2007, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert admitted before
the Winograd Commission that his decision to respond to the abduction
of soldiers with a broad military operation was made as early as March
2006, four months before last summer's Lebanon war broke out.



In a meeting in March 2006, Olmert asked the army commanders whether
operational plans existed for such a possibility, and they said yes. He
selected a moderate plan that included air attacks accompanied by a
"limited" ground operation. At the time, Shaul Mofaz was defense
minister.



In his testimony, Olmert claimed he had held more meetings on the
situation in Lebanon than any of his recent predecessors. The first
meeting was held on January 8, 2006, four days after Olmert was called
to take the place of Ariel Sharon, who had fallen into a coma. Further
meetings were held in March, April, May and July, after Corporal Gilad
Shalit was abducted to the Gaza Strip.

Olmert stated that he had decided in earlier meetings that Israel's
goal in an operation would be the implementation of Security Council
Resolution 1559, which calls for the deployment of the Lebanese army
along the Israeli border and the disarmament of Hezbollah.

In May 2006, Olmert was informed by then-National Security Council head
Giora Eiland and former prime minister Ehud Barak that the Lebanese
government would agree to implement Resolution 1559 in return for an
Israeli withdrawal from Shaba Farms. Olmert thought that it was best to
implement the decision through diplomacy, and raised the issue with
U.S. President George W. Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and
French President Jacques Chirac (15).

Slow motion...

The Lebanon war - pre-planned by executive branches in Jerusalem,
Beirut, Washington, London and Paris - broke out 24 hours after an
"islamic terrorist attack" in Mumbai (Bombay) the exekutive branch in
New Delhi had some "advance knowledge" of.

That´s not a conspiray theory. These facts are admitted by the worldwide actors of power.



THE INDIAN TRAIN "BOMBING" ON FEBRUARY 19, 2007

A total of 68 people, most of them from Pakistan, died on that day when
"a bomb started a fire" on the "Delhi-Lahore train" between India and
Pakistan.

Actually the train runs non-stop from Delhi to Attari where the
passengers are shifted to the Samjhauta Express, which goes to Lahore
after security checks. The train only has operational halts at some
stations, including Ludhiana and no passenger can alight from or board
the train en route. (17)

Indian authorities admitted later that security lapses at the Delhi
railway station may have allowed the attackers to place the "home-made
suitcase bombs" on the train. (16)

As an excuse responsible Railway Minister Lalu Prasad Yadav simply told
parliament that "urgent steps were being taken to strengthen and
modernise the Railway Protection Force" under his command. (16)

The prove that some "bombs" or "IEDs" had been used in this
assassination of innocent, regular people were presented by Northern
Railway General Manger V N Mathur.

He reaches the scene of the crime - hokuspokus - from Delhi, saying,
two suitcases were recovered from the spot -- one on the rail track and
one from the train.

He said he had talked to (!) the gateman near Deewana station who told
him (!) that he had heard two distinct explosions. "From this evidence
(what the..), we deduce that this is a clear case of sabotage," Mathur
said. (17)



Evidence? Evidence?

Sabotage, yes. But what that guy said is: there were "bombs" involved.
But actually a fire broke out in that train which was guarded by 2
Railway Protection Force Officers. If there had been just a fire
(without any bombs involved) one could have asked how that had been
possible.

Allegedly the two officers Kashmir Singh and Rajender Pal died in that train fire.(17)

Then there was another proof: another story, like it has becoming
common these days. You don´t have to proof anything, just tell a stupid
story.

A senior police officer said a Pakistani national has also given
information to police regarding some explosive being planted on the
train. The official said the passenger was identified as "Shamshuddin".
(17)

And nobody ever heard from him. But World´s public ate the story: a fire, allegedly caused by bombs.

But a woman travelling in the train recounted that there was a sudden
ball of fire in the train as it moved in its normal speed with most of
the passengers asleep.

A Saharanpur resident, Zubaida, who was going to Karachi in Pakistan,
said that around midnight there there was noise and shouts of fire from
the passengers.

These witnesses didn´t say they woke up from explosions or heard
explosions. They said they woke up from screaming or just recognized
that there was a fire which had suddenly broken out. (18)



"Initially, I and other passengers failed to understand as to what had
happened," she told PTI at the railway station in Ambala where the
train made a special halt.

Zubaida, who was travelling in the three-tier sleeper bogie adjacent to
the one which was burnt said, "after seeing outside I and other
passengers found that the bogies behind ours were on fire." (18)

The assassination took place at Deewana near Panipat, about 100 km from
Delhi. And guess what - after this massacre the train CONTINUED his
tour after the two burned bogies were taken down, despite the fact that
Superintendent of Police (Panipat) Mohinder Singh Sheoran said forensic
experts from Madhuban were summoned. (17)

Like it was described, it took a special halt in Ambala where the witnesses made their statements.

Immediately after the death of almost 70 people, accompanied by
worldwide press and TV reports, politicians from all over the world,
EU, USA, China, Pakistan, India, whatsoever expressed their deep
sorrow, pain and compassion but also their common belief that this
"islamist terror attack" would not harm the Indian-Pakistani relations.
(17)

The blasts came one day ahead of a long-planned three-day visit of
Pakistan Foreign Minister, Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri, to India to hold
talks with External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee and attend the
meeting of Indo-Pak Joint Commission.(18)

But there was more: Pakistan's foreign minister signed a deal on
"nuclear security" during his visit to India from February 20-23. (19)

And on February 23 Pakistan launched a long-range nuclear capable
surface-to-surface, two staged solid fuel ballistic missile Hatf-VI
(Shaheen II). (20)

End of story. Well, not yet.

Yesterday the Pakistan military launched a Hatf-8 ( also "Ra'ad",
arabic: thunder) with a "strategic stand off capacity" on land and at
sea that could carry "all types of warheads". (21). That means: atomic warhead capabilities.

Pakistan and India have an agreement to notify each other about tests of ballistic missiles (22).



PLEASE REMEMBER, EARTHLING:

A government is just a government. It lies.

A military (or militia) is just a military (or militia). It kills.

A journalist is just a journalist. He or she is either independend or a hooker.

There are just three, just three elementary principles for politicians worldwide on this small planet:

The first is hypocrisy.

The second is - very important - more hypocrisy.

But the most, MOST IMPORTANT PRINCIPLE FOR POLITICIANS since we know
about the very first empire emerged on Earth is neverending, boundless,
bloody and most unscrupulous hyprocrisy.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 02:28:11 AM
Report: Shots at Mumbai office of Jewish group

http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2008/11/27/ap/headlines/d94n307o0.txt
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:30:10 AM
forums all over are calling this a false flag operation (holy shit).

EVERYBODY KNOWS THE TABLE IS RIGGED!
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 02:31:31 AM
forums all over are calling this a false flag operation (holy shit).

EVERYBODY KNOWS THE TABLE IS RIGGED!

F*uck Yeah!
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: mrwise November 27, 2008, 02:35:58 AM
The main thing the Indian News Channels are showing is:  Israeli hostages taken.  Indian Jews taken as hostages.

This is so surreal--Israelis and Jews being terrorised in India?!?!!?!

That's like North Korean terrorists taking Japanese hostages in Las Vegas--makes absolutely no sense ...

...

unless you factor in the NWO-card.  Then it makes total sense.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:37:11 AM
(http://www.pehi.eu/organisations/introduction/World_Order_Cercle_Pilgrims_1001.gif) (http://www.pehi.eu/AppendixA.htm)
www.pehi.eu/AppendixA.htm
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:37:22 AM
Its obvious, so far what we know at the hotel they came by zodiac boat, dident know terrorists use those now, if you count the numbers their talking about including the ones captured and killed there were about 30 of them plus 11 spots at the same time, add in rdx military

grade explosives, grenades and automatic rifles, the fact that witness reports said they had split up once inside the hotel and looked like had assigned spots for each area they were taking over, i mean its pretty obvious all this from some unknown group ooh and the fact this is nothing like the previous attacks from india mujahadeen.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 02:39:51 AM
india t.v.
people moving floor to floor...
still going
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 02:40:42 AM
explosion now! more shots!
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:42:10 AM
The main thing the Indian News Channels are showing is:  Israeli hostages taken.  Indian Jews taken as hostages.

This is so surreal--Israelis and Jews being terrorised in India?!?!!?!

That's like North Korean terrorists taking Japanese hostages in Las Vegas--makes absolutely no sense ...

...

unless you factor in the NWO-card.  Then it makes total sense.

No one is buying the BS Israel/UK hostages, so they are going for broke trying to single this out as a zionist only issue.

This is way too big and could only be approved by a G7 consortium.

: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Hawkwind November 27, 2008, 02:42:22 AM
yes there were more explosions and gunshots....crazy

edit: i must say this reporter lady is doing a great job considering the circumstances.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 02:44:08 AM
yes there were more explosions and gunshots....crazy

edit: i must say this reporter lady is doing a great job considering the circumstances.

no sh*t. amazing...
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: mrwise November 27, 2008, 02:46:27 AM
No one is buying the BS Israel/UK hostages, so they are going for broke trying to single this out as a zionist only issue.

This is way too big and could only be approved by a G7 consortium.



Perhaps, but the Indian News just keeps showing the "Israeli" thing.  I think to try to get the Indian sheeple to feel sorry for the few Jews who are in India--a perfect way to get public opinion to shift to your side.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: mrwise November 27, 2008, 02:46:59 AM
no sh*t. amazing...

Yeah, she's fiesty.

Is Doordarshan covering this?
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 02:47:44 AM
deepak on cnn! he's great! i hoped i spelled his name right....
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:47:51 AM
Its pretty crazy if you look at whats going on this is a huge op, I dont know of any other terror op that has been this big in terms of manpower, its true it has a low casualty count but it will get HUGE media atention.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 02:48:52 AM
Its pretty crazy if you look at whats going on this is a huge op, I dont know of any other terror op that has been this big in terms of manpower, its true it has a low casualty count but it will get HUGE media atention.
HUGE OP!
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:53:25 AM
deepak on cnn! he's great! i hoped i spelled his name right....

If you ever watched Deepak, he always acts refined with a peaceful air about him, almost ghandiesque in his presence (not in his actions-NWO utilizes him well).

HE WAS PISSED OFF!!!

HE WAS REALLY PISSED!!!

WAKE UP NWO SUB-ELITES, THEY ARE USING YOU AS SLAVES!!!!

I think Deepak might have just woken up and committed a self-exorcism!
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:59:04 AM
The NWO is being exposed live with their obvious Mumbai false flag.

Many other forums are also saying it looks like a false flag.

Maybe this will be a thanksgiving where people are finally waking up in large numbers, I pray for the fallen that unnecessarily perished from these NWO chessgames.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:03:54 AM
Many, many links inside, very impressive chronology of right wing factions within India that regularly allows G7 to conduct false flag terrorism on their own soil. (anyone remember Gladio?)

Mumbai terror: Will it be a reason used to kill Muslims & attack Pakistan
http://rupeenews.com/2008/11/26/mumbai-terror-a-false-flag-ruse-to-kill-muslims-attack-pakistan/
Posted on November 26, 2008 by Moin Ansari



RAWs trail of terror: Indian Bomb blasts in Pakistan  . In 1971 India RAW orchestrated a fake hijacking and used this as an excuse to stop Pakistani overflights over India. The hijackers disguised as Kashmiri militants, however were Indian intelligence agents. Several years ago, an attack on the Indian parliament was used to place 300,000 Indian soldiers on the Paksitani border Eventually they withdrew. Dhaka Diary: RAW 2008: An Instrument of Indian Imperialism by Isha Khan Dhaka Bangladesh.

http://rupeenews.com/2008/08/09/raws-trail-of-terror-indian-bomb-blasts-in-pakistan/.

The BJP orchestrated an attack on the Babri Masjid and demolished it. As a result it unleashed communal violence against Muslims. The BJP used the attack to win the elections. Many Pakistanis are wondering, if this attack on Mumbai is also part of a some sort of plan. RAW facts on South Asia- India fails to occupy countries

India intelligence: “‘the aim of RAW is to keep internal disturbances flaring up and the ISI preoccupied so that Pakistan can lend no worthwhile resistance to Indian designs in the region.”

“Hindu Terror” tearing India apart in all out Civil War: High case Hindu vs Chritians, Dalits & Muslims . Terrorist are holding hostages in the upscale Taj and Oberoi hotel. About 100 hostages are held in the Oberoi hotel. There are conflicting reports on the number of hostages that seem to be well planned. Recently several Hinduvata members in the Indian army were arrested in blowing up the Samjhota Express train which plies between Pakistan and India. Indian Red Saffron terrorism in India: Roots & funding in USA

Westerners were rounded up in at least two five-star hotels, including the exclusive Taj Palace, which were among seven targets stormed by men armed with AK-47 machine guns and grenades. Security forces continued to fight gunbattles with the terrorists last night, hours after the initial attacks in Bombay, also known as Mumbai.

Guests in the restaurant of the five-star Oberoi were challenged on their nationality as they were herded upstairs from the Oberoi restaurant. “They told everybody to stop and put their hands up and asked if there were any British or Americans,” said Alex Chamberlain, a British businessman. “My friend said to me, don’t be a hero, don’t say you are British. “I am sure that is what this is all about. They were talking about British and Americans specifically.” BBC

BLA - A threat to international peace by Ahmad Shah Baloch: “The BLA is the creation of Indian intelligence agencies, which are trying to create instability in the areas bordering Iran and Afghanistan.”. Expose on RAW by Isha Khan of Dhaka Bangladesh

All of Mumbai is pretty much under Martial Law. Mumbai in totoal contorl of the terrorists. There is total and absolutel anarchy in Mumbia. Many in the press have been saying for the past few weeks that the BJP will stage some spectacular attacks to spark ethnic rioting and then use the communal card to come to power. Narendar Modi has done this in Gujarat before. An attack on a train was staged and then 2000 innocnet people, mostly women were raped, murdered and burned. India’s Securithy concerns: Naxalites, Kashmir, 7 Sisters & Communalism

Sudra Holocaust: Genocide of 1 million Dalits in India since 1947: About three million Dalit women have been raped and around one million Dalits killed from the time of Independence. This is 25 times more than number of soldiers killed during the wars fought after independence. That is why Dalits do not need Aryan culture or Hindu Dharma based on caste any more. …” [Dr. Tulsiram]

Sajjad Karim, an MEP for the North West of England who was a member of an EU delegation visiting Bombay said he had seen a gunman opening fire in the lobby of Taj Mahal Palace Hotel.

Speaking via mobile phone, he said: “I was in the lobby of the hotel when gunmen came in and people started running … A gunman just stood there spraying bullets around, right next to me. I managed to turn away and I ran into the hotel kitchen and then we were shunted into a restaurant in the basement.” “We are now in the dark in this room and we’ve barricaded all the doors. It’s really bad.” Outside the Taj hotel, injured guests were being stretchered away on the hotel’s golden-coloured luggage carts. The weekly Standard

Illegal polls in Indian Occupied Kashmir cannot hide illegitimacy: NEW DELHI - Coordinated terror attacks struck the heart of Mumbai, India’s commercial capital, Wednesday evening, targeting at least two five-star hotels, the city’s largest commuter train station, a historic movie theater and a hospital.

The state’s highest ranking police official, A.N. Roy, said the attackers, armed with machine guns and grenades, opened fire and disappeared. Local television reported deaths tolls as high as 80, none of them could be confirmed and the police were yet to give an official count of their own.

A spokesman for Mumbai’s St George’s Hospital told Agence France-Presse: “Fifty-eight bodies have been brought in. There are another 50 who are injured, some critical, who have been transferred to the nearby J.J. Hospital.”

Leopold’s restaurant, a Mumbai landmark popular with tourists, was also targeted in the attacks, The Associated Press reported, and the news agency quoted a top state official, Johnny Joseph, chief secretary for Maharashtra State, as saying that at least 78 people had been killed and 200 more injured.

There were initial unconfirmed reports of hostages having been taken at one of the hotels.

Around midnight, more than two hours into the serial attacks, television images from near the movie theater, the Metro Cinema, showed journalists and spectators ducking for cover as gunshots rang out in the city.

A fire raged inside the Oberoi Hotel, a luxury hotel that is popular with foreigners, according to the police. Television footage showed the charred shell of a car in front of the train station, Victoria Terminus, apparently from the impact of an explosion. A nearby gas station was blown up. New York Times. November 27, 2008, Death Toll Rising in India in Coordinated Attacks, By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Eat Rats:Indian officials ask starving Indians to eat rodents (BBC)
Indian girl Infanticide-Female Foeticide: 1 million girls killed before or after birth per year

Rupee News for the past several years has been discussing the Indian support for terrorists in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan. India has been playing with fire. Goyem: India support for Frankensteins will create blowback. it appears that the analysis of Rupee News was correct.

The knee jerk reaction of the Indian media is to blame the neighbors. “Deccan Mujahideen” has never been heard of before and seems to be a made up name to malign Muslims–a favorite tactic of the Hinduvata extremsis. India: Interaction of Hindus in power with Muslims

At 1 a.m., local time, two guests trapped inside the Taj Hotel, which is next to the iconic Gateway of India, said by telephone they heard a fresh explosion and gunfire in the old wing of the hotel.
SECULAR INDIA? Christian genocide in Indian Orissa-pictures
Real bombs-Fake encounters, torso with fake beard: Hinduvata connection?

The Maharashtra state chief minister, Vilasrao Deshmukh, told the private CNN-IBN station that the military had been called in to assist local police. He said there had been five to seven targets in the attacks, concentrated in the southern tip of the city, known as Colaba and Nariman Point.

The Indian home minister, Shivraj Patil, said that two suspected attackers had been killed in shootouts with the police.

One witness, at 31-year-old who was inside the Taj attending a friend’s wedding reception. He was getting a drink around 9:45 p.m., he said, when he heard what first sounded like firecrackers - “loud bursts” interspersed with what sounded like machine gun fire.

A window of the banquet hall shattered, guests scattered under tables, and they were quickly escorted to another room in the hotel, he said. No one was allowed to leave. Just before 1 a.m., another loud explosion rang out and then, about a half hour later, another, said the man inside the Taj.

His friend, the groom, Anil Thadani, was two floors above him, in the old wing of the hotel, trapped in a room with his wife. One of the explosions, Mr. Thadani said by telephone, took the door off its hinges. He blocked it with a table. Then came another, and gunfire throughout the evening.

The State Department immediately condemned the attacks but said there were no immediate reports of American casualties. “Our sympathies go out to the families and friends of those killed and injured, and to the people of Mumbai,” said Robert A. Wood, a spokesman, in a statement. New York Times. November 27, 2008, Death Toll Rising in India in Coordinated Attacks, By SOMINI SENGUPTA
India: More than 75% live below Sub Saharan poverty line
India: 3500-yrs of massacres of Dalit-Sudra Blacks by Arya-Brahmins
Indian Gujarat woman raped, killed & burned by mobs along with 2000 other innocents under direction of Mr. Modi. The US has refused a via to Mr. Modi the Chief Minister of Gujarat supported by Governo Bobby Jindal  Women Genocide in “Incredible India”: Women harassed. GENDER MURDER:-10 million baby girls killed before & after birth in India  India worse than Barkino Fason on World Hunger Index and lightly better than Haiti. It is the hungriest in South Asia
Red Nepal: Clear and present danger to India

Chilled Urine drinking hot in India. Gandhi to PM Desai.  Fareed Zakaria on the farce of Indian “Democracy”
Why did Buddhism disappear from South Asia?  Reviving Hinduism in Budhdist lands: The Hindu extremists use the Safron Swastika flag instead of the tri-colored flag of India. (see Hindu unity dot org)

Indian penury: The reality vs. the Bollywood marketing gloss:
India as World Power 1  Extremist Hindus show power using the Swastika in triple entendre–as an ancient Hindu symbol, reverence for Hitler and sign of Anti-Western Indian power
Superpower India Pt 2 Extremist Hindus revere Hitler and use the Swastika as the Indian flag

How long to extripate penury from india? 300 years!  India’s budget– fit for a superpower  Murder of 10 million Indian girl babies:Before or right after birth. The media is silent.

Sino-Indian relationship

India Balkanizing? Naxalite insurrection widening cracks in deep cavaties
The 2nd world revolution (after Buddhism) from Nepal: Another threat to India
The Singh Doctrine Fails to achieve Akhand Bharat
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 03:05:17 AM
India tv reporting most attacks where all 5 minutes or so apart ummmm  :o
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:06:56 AM
More history of Mumbai False Flag operations that are inside jobs...



 
Terrorism under false flag : an indian officer arrested
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article17680
November Saturday 1  2008 (13h06) [26 days ago!]
source web site: Khabrein


Mumbai, Oct. 30: An embarrassed Indian Army admitted Thursday a serving Army lieutenant-colonel suspected of links to other suspects in the Malegaon and Modasa bomb blast conspiracy had "been moved to Mumbai" for questioning by the anti-terrorism squad of the Maharashtra police.

The officer is posted at the Army Education Corps Training College at Pachmarhi, Madhya Pradesh. While the Army did not disclose his name, sources in Mumbai identified him as Lt. Col. S. Purohit and added that he had served with military intelligence.

This newspaper had reported on Monday that a serving officer based at Pachmarhi was being investigated for alleged links to the blasts.

The Army said on Thursday that "while no formal application had been received from the police, Army Headquarters extended full cooperation" and that the officer had been moved to Mumbai "to facilitate interaction at a mutually-convenient place."

Mumbai ATS sources said an "informal" request for assistance had been sent to the Army. The defence ministry gave its go-ahead late Wednesday evening, after which the officer was escorted to Mumbai by another Army officer the same night. "He will be stationed at Mumbai cantonment, where he will be available for questioning. He has been advised not to leave the cantonment," sources said.

South Block sources said no court of inquiry had been ordered, but the Army was treating the matter with utmost gravity.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 03:10:52 AM
If you ever watched Deepak, he always acts refined with a peaceful air about him, almost ghandiesque in his presence (not in his actions-NWO utilizes him well).

HE WAS PISSED OFF!!!

HE WAS REALLY PISSED!!!

WAKE UP NWO SUB-ELITES, THEY ARE USING YOU AS SLAVES!!!!

I think Deepak might have just woken up and committed a self-exorcism!

...first time i have seen him...
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:11:42 AM
Now CNN reports that the MK Ultra nutcase zombie caught on camera could have been an undercover cop.

UPDATE: CNN is now giving the G7 free advertising by trying to say this was Al-Qaeda.

WE ALREADY KNOW THAT AL-QAEDA is a CIA operation you f**king morons!
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 03:14:16 AM
Lol i doubt this is al qaeda were talking about a huge ammount of manpower and well organized, too big for them or any other group that i know off, only group i can think of was a couple of years back those guys that took over a school in russia, but this is even bigger than that.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:14:18 AM
...first time i have seen him...

Just look him up on youtube and he will be spouting new age bullshit, he is used (willingly or unwillingly-not sure) by the NWO as a calming effect on obvious worldwide insanity.

But I think he is waking up from the looks of that last interview.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 03:15:08 AM
Mumbai attacks: Terrorists inside Taj, Oberoi

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/
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: mrwise November 27, 2008, 03:15:57 AM
Now CNN reports that the MK Ultra nutcase zombie caught on camera could have been an undercover cop.

UPDATE: CNN is now giving the G7 free advertising by trying to say this was Al-Qaeda.

WE ALREADY KNOW THAT AL-QAEDA is a CIA operation you f**king morons!

The news is saying that the terrorists came onto the scene using motor boats at the Gate of India (the big thing right at the water's edge in front of the Taj Hotel overlooking the Arabian Sea).  Uhhhhhh. Heh?  That's like saying Bin Laden used a motor boat to land at the Statue of Liberty and then bombed some building in Manhatten.  If those guys pulled that off--they gotta be the Jack Bauer of terrorists.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 03:16:03 AM
Just look him up on youtube and he will be spouting new age bullshit, he is used (willingly or unwillingly-not sure) by the NWO as a calming effect on obvious worldwide insanity.

But I think he is waking up from the looks of that last interview.

Will do, thank you.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:16:36 AM
Lol i doubt this is al qaeda were talking about a huge ammount of manpower and well organized, too big for them or any other group that i know off, only group i can think of was a couple of years back those guys that took over a school in russia, but this is even bigger than that.

After over 7 years of killing over one million people, this major attack involving 17 different operations all timed within 5 minutes was completely undetected?

Oh yeah, that's the ticket.

War on Terror = More Terror!

The terrorist industrial complex needs more of your grandchildren's slave labor!
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: Nile November 27, 2008, 03:17:24 AM
I know it seems like too much, but is there a possibility that something could happen in the U.S. soon that would be linked to whatever group they decide carried these attacks out?
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:17:56 AM
The news is saying that the terrorists came onto the scene using motor boats at the Gate of India (the big thing right at the water's edge in front of the Taj Hotel overlooking the Arabian Sea).  Uhhhhhh. Heh?  That's like saying Bin Laden used a motor boat to land at the Statue of Liberty and then bombed some building in Manhatten.  If those guys pulled that off--they gotta be the Jack Bauer of terrorists.

thanks for the comic relief to this tragic yet awakening event.

That analogy is fricking hilarious because it is so true.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 03:18:47 AM
The news is saying that the terrorists came onto the scene using motor boats at the Gate of India (the big thing right at the water's edge in front of the Taj Hotel overlooking the Arabian Sea).  Uhhhhhh. Heh?  That's like saying Bin Laden used a motor boat to land at the Statue of Liberty and then bombed some building in Manhatten.  If those guys pulled that off--they gotta be the Jack Bauer of terrorists.

Just remember that area is a big port with alot of traffic not alot of people whould notice a boat with a bunch of guys with backpacks, they dident rush with guns out, witness reports were saying the ones inside the hotel restaurant had backpacks and the stood up and took out the rifles.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:19:56 AM
I know it seems like too much, but is there a possibility that something could happen in the U.S. soon that would be linked to whatever group they decide carried these attacks out?

Of course, but if we do not buy the BS in India, why would we buy the BS here?

They are testing their propaganda mind control weaponry (CNN/FOX/MSNBC).  So far it ain't working too well.

MESSAGE TO THE G7 PROPAGANDA NETWORKS: WE DO NOT BELIEVE YOU!
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 03:21:19 AM
We dont but just watch tomorrow morning they will spin this and the sheep will eat it for breakfast for us its different because were watching uncesored news directly from india.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:24:03 AM
Just remember that area is a big port with alot of traffic not alot of people whould notice a boat with a bunch of guys with backpacks, they dident rush with guns out, witness reports were saying the ones inside the hotel restaurant had backpacks and the stood up and took out the rifles.

There must have been some type of security. 

Anyone remember the recent obvious US false flag against the Pakistani government when they were supposed to meet at the Marriott?

US Army personnel were carrying boxes of material in hours before.

There must be something similar like compromised officials assisting in this huge event ( http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article17680 ).

The timing of 17 different attacks can only occur with highly skilled military training and with inside help/stand down type orders.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 03:26:57 AM
Hansel and grettel - follow the breadcrumbs ;) thats what they will have to do.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:27:40 AM
Also, look at all the car bombs, there must have been like 5 different car bombs plus machine guns plus grenades, etc. etc.

It is like 100 soldiers with tanks stormed in and started going to town.

WTF?

This was a huge operation.

There is no way this could be approved without the G7.

I guess India was not taking enough World Bank funding.
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: mrwise November 27, 2008, 03:29:22 AM
Just remember that area is a big port with alot of traffic not alot of people whould notice a boat with a bunch of guys with backpacks, they dident rush with guns out, witness reports were saying the ones inside the hotel restaurant had backpacks and the stood up and took out the rifles.

True.  Perhaps they did use it--but it would still be very difficult.

If I hear anything about jet-packs though, I'm leaving.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:30:57 AM
Quote from CNN:

"This may have us look at a new paradigm in the war on terror.  Terror agencies may have to look at a new threat."

YEAH THE G7 NWO NEO-FEUDALIST AGENDA!

WTF?

The spinning is getting ridiculous.

They make it seem like this shit happens all the time and did not involve any state sponsored/terror agency assistance.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 03:32:10 AM
Lol the spining starts in the west. India tv is still pushing the hole international involvement thing. One thing we need to track is the hole rdx explosives i think thats whats going to unravel the hole thing.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:34:44 AM
Oh man, they captured at least one.

Just wait until Indian police put him on TV and show that it is a CIA/Mossad/Mi6 agent.

US/UK/Israeli spy satellites must be on red alert.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 03:38:43 AM
Oh man, they captured at least one.

Just wait until Indian police put him on TV and show that it is a CIA/Mossad/Mi6 agent.

US/UK/Israeli spy satellites must be on red alert.

Sane, your right on...
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: scoffer November 27, 2008, 03:46:54 AM
We dont but just watch tomorrow morning they will spin this and the sheep will eat it for breakfast for us its different because were watching uncesored news directly from india.

My goodness/Good God, of course all of the specifics will be delivered in the middle of the night, when americans are either up cooking and preparing for the feast, or sleeping so that they can be alert during tomorrows football game.  This is very good timing on the part of someone. I don't even want to have a holiday in light of all the mayhem, but I will, and I will try to spread the word (no TV in my parents home, so perhaps things  will go well).
There must have been some type of security. 

Anyone remember the recent obvious US false flag against the Pakistani government when they were supposed to meet at the Marriott?

US Army personnel were carrying boxes of material in hours before.

There must be something similar like compromised officials assisting in this huge event ( http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article17680 ).

The timing of 17 different attacks can only occur with highly skilled military training and with inside help/stand down type orders.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:50:37 AM
CNN: "Who is India under threat from?"

NWO spokeswoman: "Pakistan"

How is this not a staged play?
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 03:52:46 AM
CNN: "Who is India under threat from?"

NWO spokeswoman: "Pakistan"

How is this not a staged play?

Wait for Bush tomorrow to tell us: "I have ordered military units to take out terrorist camps in Pakistan. We have seen what they have done to cities in India, and they are determined to do the same in the United States...."


BTW, don't you guys ever sleep?
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 03:53:32 AM
 ::)

Mumbai attackers may be Pakistani nationals

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai_attackers_may_be_Pakistani_nationals/articleshow/3764564.cms
 ::)

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: mrwise November 27, 2008, 03:53:40 AM
CNN: "Who is India under threat from?"

NWO spokeswoman: "Pakistan"

How is this not a staged play?

Well considering Pakistan is now a totally bought and controlled asset of Washington--maybe the bitch was right.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 03:55:03 AM
Wait for Bush tomorrow to tell us: "I have ordered military units to take out terrorist camps in Pakistan. We have seen what they have done to cities in India, and they are determined to do the same in the United States...."


BTW, don't you guys ever sleep?

only when obama speaks.  ;)
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 03:55:52 AM
 Mumbai attacks unprecedented in nature: Advani
Press Trust of India
Thursday, November 27, 2008, (New Delhi)
The Mumbai terror attacks are unprecedented in nature and looks different from those perpetrated by forces like SIMI, BJP leader L K Advani said on Thursday.

He told reporters that an operation of this kind would have taken at least two months of planning and the extent of attacks appears to be a continuation of the 1993 serial bomb blasts in the metropolis.

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074294&ch=11/27/2008%2011:46:00%20AM
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:00:40 AM
POSSIBLE MOTIVE BY THE G7!!!

      
False notes threaten India's economy
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JH26Df01.html
By Raja Murthy  Aug 26, 2008


MUMBAI - "Economic terrorism" threatens India with a staggering US$51 billion worth of counterfeit currency circulating in the country, according to India's Intelligence Bureau. The government, though, has expressed no serious hurry to tackle this menace, even as police say fake currency notes are also funding terrorist groups in India.

The Reserve Bank of India (RBI), the regulator, estimates a lower figure of counterfeit money than $51 billion, but given a flurry of publicized recent police arrests across the country of suspects nabbed with huge amounts of fake currency, estimates could be on the higher rather than the lower side.

"The problem is very serious," S K Panda, special director of the Enforcement Directorate, told Asia Times Online. His investigators in the New Delhi-based Directorate of Enforcement, under the Department of Revenue, Ministry of Finance, have hard work ahead. Panda has reasons for anxiety. Over 25% of currency in public hands could be counterfeit, given RBI statistics that $140.95 billion worth of currency notes are in circulation as of August 15, 2008.

Worryingly, police seizures of fake notes sensationally included a branch of the country's leading banker, the State Bank of India. An August 8 seizure of over $369,000 worth of fake notes from the State Bank of India branch in Domariaganj, a small town in the north Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, led to arrests of a bank cashier, Sudhakar Tripathi, alleged to be involved in mixing fake notes in the bank's currency chests. Tripathi was caught only after he began conspicuously splurging the money with which he allegedly had been bribed by counterfeiters.

Investigators revealed the depth of collusion between corrupt bank officials and counterfeiters. Counterfeit currency money in the Dumariaganj State Bank of India chest sported the same serial numbers as genuine currency notes in the bank, indicating that the counterfeit currency printers were informed of serial numbers of genuine notes.

Such incidents have increased public worries about bank ATM machines potentially infected with dud currency notes, not a happy prospect for a banana republic leave alone an emerging economic powerhouse such as India.

The case of 25-year-old Rakesh Singh in New Delhi is instructive. After withdrawing cash from a bank ATM this month, Rakesh was found paying four fake 500 rupee notes for clothes in a south Delhi shopping mall. The shopkeeper called the police, who released Singh only after he produced his ATM cash-withdrawal receipt, which he had kept rather than dump in the ATM waste basket, which are usually filled with discarded receipts. That did not rescue him from losing 2,000 rupees ($46) through no fault of his.

The RBI has sent instructions and warnings in a 22-page master circular dated July 1, 2008, to all banks and state governments' directors of treasuries on "Detection and Impounding of Counterfeit Notes", yet the circular does not specify protection to bank customers who are given fake money.

The RBI website gives detailed instructions on how to spot fake currency, but in practice metropolitan ATMs could have queues miles long and daily riots if every user spent time to carefully examine each bank note spewed out by the machine. The impracticality of the RBI guidelines for ATM customers is easily evident when it comes to detecting fake 500 rupee notes: "Machine-readable windowed demetalized clear text magnetic security thread with inscriptions Bharat [in Hindi] and RBI on notes of Rs 500 with exclusive color shift. Color of the thread shall shift from green to blue when viewed from different angles. It will fluoresce in yellow on the reverse and the text will fluoresce on the obverse under UV [ultra violet] light - width 3 mm. The Intaglio Printing, ie raised prints, is more prominent in the name of the Bank in Hindi and English, the Reserve Bank Seal, guarantee and promise clause, Ashoka Pillar Emblem on the left, RBI Governor's signature ... "

While the public at large casually takes pot luck with 500 rupee notes without peering suspiciously at each one they receive, enforcement officials are regularly reporting seizures, particularly in India's border areas. A Border Security Force (BSF)patrol this month seized fake Indian currency notes worth $23,000 from three smugglers near the border with Pakistan in Punjab state. BSF officials said fake 500 rupee notes were smuggled from Pakistan wrapped in a plastic envelope embossed with "AFD departmental store, Liberty Market (Lahore)" printed on it, and hidden in a bag of pears.

Enforcement officials said the bi-weekly Thar Express train that shuttles between Munabao in Barmer, Rajasthan, to Khokhrapar in Sindh, Pakistan, is a major conduit for counterfeit money couriers. The states of Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka lead the way in fake currency seizures.

Indian intelligence and police officials have long accused Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) as the criminal "mastermind" behind smuggling high-quality fake notes into India via routes such as Nepal, Bangladesh and Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, with the intention of destabilizing the Indian economy.

The claim echoes one made against the North Korean government, accused of printing fake $100 bills to destabilize the American economy and possibly reflects one more instance of elements in the Pakistani establishment acting contrary to the growing warmth and goodwill seen between Pakistan and India.

Interrogators of arrested counterfeit currency couriers say that at least one printing press operates in Pakistan solely to print fake Indian currency. Some incidents support such a possibility - for instance, a Pakistan Embassy official in New Delhi was caught paying his child's school fees with fake Indian 500 rupee notes.

Daily News and Analysis, a leading English daily from Mumbai, has reported Indian sources in Europe revealing that individuals and firms linked to Pakistan have been purchasing large volumes of special currency paper much beyond the known currency needs of Pakistan.

Police officials say established criminal gangs are also involved. "The 'D' Company [the mafia gang of Dawood Ibrahim, one of India's most wanted criminals currently alleged to be harbored by Pakistan's ISI] is transporting fake Indian currency notes mostly of the highest 500 rupee and 1,000 rupee denominations directly from Dubai to Hyderabad," according to B Srinivasulu, a senior police official in Andhra Pradesh state. "This counterfeit currency is printed on security paper either in Pakistan or its friendly countries and transported to India via United Arab Emirates. It is very difficult to distinguish it from genuine Indian currency."

Given the dimensions of the counterfeit currency problem, economists are questioning whether the fake currency is a factor behind India's record inflation of 12%, particularly given the role in the economy of black markets. Fake currency could be used in large black-money transactions, such as real estate deals and financing Bollywood films, where about 50% of each deal is said to be transacted with unaccounted funds.

Suggested remedial measures range from promoting increased use of credit and debit cards to the possibility of the Indian government joining a growing club of countries and territories, including Australia, China, Hong Kong, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Israel, that use polymer bank notes. These plastic-based notes are harder to counterfeit and more durable. Until that day, India continues the risk of toy money being used as real money in one of the world's dozen countries with trillion-dollar economies.

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THIS WAS A G7 ATTACK TO FORCE INDIA INTO USING A NEW MONETARY SYSTEM

Also notice all the references to the CIA-ISI being the cause of all the counterfiting [Problem/Reaction/Solution]

"Use our new monetary system or we will conduct more false flags in your country!" or "This event was obviously funded by a poor monetary system."

Other side benefits...

-Forcing India to accept more US/UK terror assistance

-Blaming Pakistan to assist Obama's agenda

-Keeping US citizens living in a constant state of fear
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: Brocke November 27, 2008, 04:01:52 AM
Also, look at all the car bombs, there must have been like 5 different car bombs plus machine guns plus grenades, etc. etc.

It is like 100 soldiers with tanks stormed in and started going to town.

WTF?

This was a huge operation.

There is no way this could be approved without the G7.

I guess India was not taking enough World Bank funding.

Is there a gold/financial connection?

India’s Financial Capital Mumbai Shut After Terrorist Attacks
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=awX9cW8xopzA&refer=india


India has more gold owned by the general public than any other country in the world.

Demand for gold reaches all time high: World Gold Council

Mumbai Nov 19 : The demand for yellow metal in India reached an all time high during quarter three of 2008 at Rupees.30,600 crore, a 66 per cent increase over the corresponding period last year...

http://www.newkerala.com/topstory-fullnews-48756.html

India's Demand Set to Rise

India leads the world in its love of physical gold, and by March it's due to get its first of three exchange-traded gold funds (ETFs) too. These products have proven very popular in the West, despite charging 0.4% annual storage fees and merely backing each share with gold held in trust, rather than giving investors outright gold ownership. New gold ETFs in 2007 are planned for Germany, Italy, Belgium and Luxembourg. But India could put them all in the shade...
http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/gold_in_2007_india_gold_demand

Record rise in Gold ETF investments in Q3 2008

MUMBAI: Gold is indeed a safe haven investment for investors around the world in the face of financial meltdown as they rushed to invest US $32bn in the third quarter of 2008 in gold assets, according to World Gold Council data...

http://www.commodityonline.com/ndtv/news/topstorydetails.php?id=12858

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: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:06:43 AM
Digg Paul's article...

CIA False Flag 11.26.2008
http://digg.com/world_news/CIA_False_Flag_11_26_2008
infowars.com — Coordinated attacks across Mumbai, India ’s financial capital, which have killed up to a hundred people and injured hundreds more, are likely to be blamed on a terrorist organization linked to the Pakistani ISI, providing further justification for controversial U.S. bombings inside Pakistani territory and heightened rhetoric against Pakistan on beh
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:08:05 AM
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message673769/pg1

Mumbai : Inside Story   Quote

From my sources.

RAW, CIA, MI6, MOSSAD

False Flag.

Purpose: Assassinate Anti-Terror Chief who has uncovered evidence with regard to The Base as a state/intel False Flag Operation and recent activities in India see - Marriot Bombing. Kill American, English and Indian targets and to push India out of BRIC alliance towards US/UK/Israeli orbit.

Security measures at all targets were removed just days ago in preparation for the attacks.

Attacks will be blamed on an Indian Islamic group that operates in Mumbai.

That's all for now.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:09:55 AM
Is there a gold/financial connection?

India’s Financial Capital Mumbai Shut After Terrorist Attacks
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=awX9cW8xopzA&refer=india


India has more gold owned by the general public than any other country in the world.




Brocke! Awesome work!  Everyone please keep looking into the financial reasons for this false flag attack (9/11 bankrupted the entire US - the attack affected the entire wealth of the nation and that seems now to be the primary goal.)

This is the true motif by the G7 for control.

They cannot allow any wealth out of their hands.

They cannot allow any rougue nations that do not fall into their Ponzi debt scam system.

Like in every Die Hard movie...

"It is always about the money."
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 04:12:59 AM
people on the street being interviewed, saying the government should have gotten to them before it got to this point...

btw Sane, it's "motive" not "motif"
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 04:15:19 AM
news anchor just said that people are saying this is India's 9/11.

I wonder if they've already got legislation written....that they couldn't read...
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 04:17:47 AM
another blast..
nariman house
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 04:21:53 AM
Experts doubt Al Qaeda link in Mumbai attacks
By Mark McDonald
Published: November 27, 2008

HONG KONG: The men came wearing black hoods, firing automatic weapons and throwing grenades, taking hostages, attacking two hotels, a cinema, a café, a train station and other popular and undefended "soft targets."

An e-mail message to Indian media outlets that claimed responsibility for the bloody attacks in Mumbai on Wednesday night said the militants were from the Deccan Mujahideen.

Global terrorism experts said Thursday they had never heard of the group. And based on its tactics, they said, it was probably not a cell or group linked to Al Qaeda.

"It's even unclear whether it's a real group or not," said Bruce Hoffman, a professor at the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University and the author of the book "Inside Terrorism." "It could be a cover name for another group, or a name adopted just for this particular incident."

Chrtistine Fair, senior political scientist and a South Asia expert at the RAND Corporation, was careful to say that the identity of the terrorists could not yet be known. But she insisted the style of the attacks and the targets in Mumbai suggested that the militants were likely to be Indian Muslims - and not linked to Al Qaeda or the violent South

"There's absolutely nothing Al Qaeda-like about it," she said of the attack. "Did you see any suicide bombers? And there are no fingerprints of Lashkar. They don't do hostage taking, and they don't do grenades."

Hoffman agreed that the assault was "not exactly Al Qaeda's modus operandi, which is suicide attacks."

But he said the timed attacks, which he called "tactical, sophisticated and coordinated," perhaps pointed to a broader organization behind the perpetrators. Fair also noted that the fact the group had not proclaimed its ideology in a manifesto was "not at all unusual."

"You don't see these types of terrorist operations very often, if at all," Hoffman said. "These aren't just a bunch of radical guys coming together to cause mayhem.

"This takes a different skill set. It doesn't take much skill to make a bomb. This is not just pressing a button as a suicide bomber and dying. You don't learn this over the Internet."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/27/asia/28group.php
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 04:22:36 AM
Canadian talking on tv now. Said he hid in his room. Commandoes came and got him out

said he holds a British passport, but his accent is definitely Canadian
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 04:24:48 AM
News says there were 12 terrorists, all young, 20 - 25 years old. The all look Pakistani or Indian, at least from the few photos. Who are these guys really?
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: chirhonius November 27, 2008, 04:25:38 AM
"We heard a car speed up behind us, it was a police van, but the men inside were firing at us," said Manish Tripathi, at a police cordon near one of the hospitals. "Men were screaming that they had lost their fingers. There was blood all over. I feel they are still screaming."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5242602.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5242602.ece)
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: mrwise November 27, 2008, 04:26:33 AM
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message673769/pg1

Mumbai : Inside Story   Quote

From my sources.

RAW, CIA, MI6, MOSSAD

False Flag.

Purpose: Assassinate Anti-Terror Chief who has uncovered evidence with regard to The Base as a state/intel False Flag Operation and recent activities in India see - Marriot Bombing. Kill American, English and Indian targets and to push India out of BRIC alliance towards US/UK/Israeli orbit.

Security measures at all targets were removed just days ago in preparation for the attacks.

Attacks will be blamed on an Indian Islamic group that operates in Mumbai.

That's all for now.

BIN - f'in -GO
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 04:38:42 AM
Reason for deadly attacks in Mumbai sought

BY ZACHARY R. DOWDY | zachary.dowdy@newsday.com
    November 27, 2008

As officials in India struggled to restore order to Mumbai in the wake of a series of simultaneous blasts in the commercial center yesterday, they also grappled with the question of why the attacks occurred.

A little known group called the Deccan Mujahideen notified media outlets and claimed responsibility for the bombings and shootings at seven sites at hotels, railway stations and other high-profile locations in Mumbai, formerly known as Bombay.

At least 101 people are dead, 200 hurt.

One scholar said the blasts were well-coordinated and that the perpetrators of what is one of India's worst terrorist attacks were armed to the teeth.

But just why the group attacked Mumbai, and at this time, escaped many observers in the early aftermath of the carnage.

The scholar said the latest bombings were sophisticated and far-reaching, the result of lot of planning and financing.

"It suggests a particularly international dimension," said Sunil Khilnani, a scholar at the Washington-based School of Advanced International Studies of Johns Hopkins University. "It suggests it is something beyond, outside the realm of Indian politics."

http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/world/ny-wowhy275943639nov27,0,5559229.story
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 04:39:35 AM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45245000/jpg/_45245079_gunman_afp466.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/3062203344_7e3c6b346a.jpg?v=0)
(http://images.photogallery.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?photoid=3762109)
(http://ultrabrown.com/wp-content/uploads/screen-2008-11-26-17-56-26.jpg)
(http://ultrabrown.com/wp-content/uploads/screen-2008-11-26-17-56-38.jpg)
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: NotSure November 27, 2008, 04:41:58 AM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45245000/jpg/_45245079_gunman_afp466.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/3062203344_7e3c6b346a.jpg?v=0)


The top guy looks Indian, not Paki, at least to me. Oh, they're the same guy, he looks robotic in the bottom pic, or at least zonked on crystal meth.

Am I trippin' or does his shirt say Versace, toooo weird, the Indian Andrew Cunanan?
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 04:45:30 AM
The top guy looks Indian, not Paki, at least to me. Oh, they're the same guy, he looks robotic in the bottom pic, or at least zonked on crystal meth.

I found three more, added above
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 04:47:11 AM
this blog has a really good running article on the situation. It's like a one-stop shop: http://www.ultrabrown.com/posts/bombay-under-terrorist-attack

"On NDTV, an Indian man trapped in the Taj said 6-7 of the terrorists he saw were foreigners."
In Update 20: http://www.ultrabrown.com/posts/bombay-under-terrorist-attack

What does he mean by foreigner? Non-Indian? That would mean the rest were Indian. Or does he mean white?
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 05:00:09 AM
(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9950/screen20081126175626jt9.jpg)
(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1405/screen20081126175638pp8.jpg)
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: Hawkwind November 27, 2008, 05:01:17 AM
those were the guys i thought looked high on amphetamines...look at his eyes...these guys were probably the patsies, i wouldnt be surprised if they find them with two bullets in their head later on.

tomorrow drudge will have the main headline "India's 911" or "Our 911" and in red sub headline will read "stock market fall, fear, uncertainty"
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: Devotional Soul November 27, 2008, 05:02:10 AM
Thank you, everyone, for the coverage in this thread.  This Thanksgiving will be full of prayers.  
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: Anti_Illuminati November 27, 2008, 05:06:22 AM
http://www.indiauncut.com/

27 November, 2008
A Night Out In Mumbai (Updated)

"This is turning out to be one crazy night. A friend of mine had an opening of her art exhibition a few hours ago, so we ventured to South Bombay for that. We attended the exhibition, sipped the litchee juice, nibbled on party snacks, and then six of us headed out for dinner. First we tried Indigo Deli, which is a couple of hundred metres from the Taj. We were told there would be a 25-minute wait. So we headed to All Stir Fry, the restaurant in the Gordon House Hotel in a lane down from there. They told us we’d have to wait 20 minutes. We stepped out again, and as we did so, we heard gunshots, and saw people running towards us from the left side.

One of the hotel employees rushed out and told us to get back in. “There must have been an encounter,” he said. “Get back in, you’ll be safe inside.”

We followed him in. We waited in the lounge-bar upstairs for a while. The big screen there was showing cricket. India won. Then someone changed the channel.

That’s when we realised that this was much more than a random police encounter, or a couple of gunshots. We heard that terrorists with AK-47s had opened fire outside Leopold’s, the pub down the road. We heard there was firing elsewhere in the city as well, including in the Taj. We watched transfixed, and as the apparent scale of the incidents grew, we realised we couldn’t go home. We asked if they had a room vacant; they did, so we settled in, switched on the TV, and watched in horror.

*

Uptil this point, these are the things we know from TV:

A bunch of terrorists opened fire in various parts of the city using AK-47s and suchlike. Some of them, it was reported, captured a police jeep and went around shooting people in that.

Terrorists captured parts of both the Taj and the Oberoi. There have been bomb blasts at both hotels. (We heard the second one at the Taj from our window in the Gordon House Hotel.) It is rumoured that foreigners have been taken hostage. It is reported that parts of the hotels are on fire.

At least four top police officers have been killed. Some members of parliament are reported to still be trapped inside the Taj.

There has also been attacks on the Marriott in Juhu, as well as the Ramada. There was an attack on VT Railway Station. There were blasts in Santa Cruz and Vile Parle. There was an attack on Cama Hospital, and, I’ve just heard, Bombay Hospital.

A petrol pump was blown up in Colaba, a couple of minutes walk from where we are.

And, just a minor statistic, no doubt, amid the horror of today: a diner was shot while coming out of Indigo Deli, where we were standing minutes earlier.

*

I’m fine now, I suppose, in terms of physical safety. If I wasn’t accompanied by the partner, and if three of the six of us weren’t women (including one who is pregnant), I would have headed out to the Taj. But the area is cordoned off, and I don’t have a press pass anymore, so I’d probably have been turned away. A journalist friend of mine is outside the Taj, and speaking from her colleague’s cellphone—hers ran out of battery a while ago—she tells me that she is safe behind the armymen who have now arrived on the scene. I hope that helps. I hope this is over soon.

Earlier today, I was working on a final polishing of my novel before it goes to press. Now I wonder what’s the point. The book will come out in April, and Bombay will be a different city then. This book was written in a Bombay before these attacks; it will come out in a Bombay after these attacks, and it somehow feels, as I sit here in the business center of a boutique hotel a stone’s throw away from mayhem, that it will be inadequate. It is a love story—and isn’t that perverse?

But of course, I say that now, caught up in the moment, a little more emotional than I normally am. Maybe tomorrow it won’t seem so bad. Maybe next week we shall be normal again, and life will go on as it always has. Maybe I’ll come to Indigo Deli for dinner sometime, and when asked to wait 20 minutes, shall loiter in the pavement outside, enjoying the night air of this city I love so much. Maybe. Maybe not.

Update (10.25 am): Right, I’m safe at home now. We hardly slept, and were told early in the morning by friends that a curfew was going to be imposed on the city, and if we wanted to leave for home, we’d better leave right away. The news mentioned that three terrorists were still on the loose in the city, and the Taj still burnt, but we stepped out anyway and made it back safely. We passed the Ramada and the Marriott on the way, perhaps taking the same route that one group of gunmen took last night on the way to Borivali, where gunfire was also reported.

Suddenly, what is familiar seems macabre.

*

I was on Larry King Live on CNN about three hours ago. They called me and asked me to be on the show as an eyewitness, at which I protested that I hadn’t actually seen anything, I was merely in the vicinity. But they’d read what I wrote in this post earlier, and they wanted me to talk about that. So I agreed, and came on briefly. King asked me if I’d actually seen any terrorists—I felt guilty that I couldn’t offer him any dope there.

Deepak Chopra was also on the show, speculating that the attacks had taken place because terrorists were worried about Barack Obama’s friendly overtures to Muslims. (I know: WTF?) That sounded pretty ridiculous to me, but such theories are a consequence of our tendency as a species to want to give gyan. A media pundit, especially, feels compelled to have a narrative for everything. Everything must be explicable, and television expects instant analysis.

This is foolish, for sometimes events are complicated, and we simply need to wait for more information to emerge before we can understand it. But many of us—not just the pundits—don’t have the humility to accept that. We want to feel in control, at least on an intellectual level, so reasons and theories emerge. But the world is really far too complicated for us. Yet somehow we muddle along.

The right kind of gyan, in the immediate aftermath of this, is historical perspective, which Christiane Amanpour provided on King’s show. Anything else is premature.

*

The kind folk at the Gordon House Hotel did three important things for us last night. One, they ushered us in when the gunshots began, assuring us that we’d be safer inside than outside. Two, they got us a room for the night, and extra mattresses and so on. Three, in the morning, they refused to accept payment for the room, insisting that we were their guests and this was their duty.

We left them a hefty tip out of gratitude, but I’m still in disbelief about their kindness. I often complain about the poor service in the hospitality industry in India, but never again about All Stir Fry or the Gordon House Hotel. What guys!

*

We passed Churchgate on our way home at about 8.45. It was obviously nowhere near as crowded as usual. But still there was a steady stream of people headed out, staring ahead, trooping off to work. This city did not sleep last night, I know. But it will not rest either."
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: El Scampio November 27, 2008, 05:06:41 AM

Brocke! Awesome work!  Everyone please keep looking into the financial reasons for this false flag attack (9/11 bankrupted the entire US - the attack affected the entire wealth of the nation and that seems now to be the primary goal.)

This is the true motif by the G7 for control.

They cannot allow any wealth out of their hands.

They cannot allow any rougue nations that do not fall into their Ponzi debt scam system.

Like in every Die Hard movie...

"It is always about the money."

India's Gold:


Gold: The View from Mumbai - Monday 13th October 2008
Why do Gold Prices shoot up when financial markets are plunging to historic lows...?

AS WORLD STOCK MARKETS are caught in a tangling web of unprecedented turmoil, there is a glitter in the yellow metals market, writes Shiv Krishna for Commodity Online in Mumbai.

Gold prices are setting new records every day against non-US currencies, including the Euro and British Pound. As Asian markets opened on Friday after a dull holiday, the Bombay Stock Exchange benchmark index – the Sensex – fell to the nadir of desperation by plunging 1000 points and touching the 10,000-mark, its lowest level since June 2006.

But as brokers and traders cried over these markets in misery, Gold Bullion soared to new highs on fears of the global recession that's set to follow. At the NCDEX futures exchange, November contracts gained 3.64% to 14,085 Rupees per 10 grams. Gold December Futures at the MCX gained 3.86% at Rs 14,130 per 10 grams.

Why is it that Gold Prices shoot up when financial markets are plunging to historic lows?

Traders said Friday that concerns over global financial markets and also the depreciation of India's Rupee have created an appeal for gold as an alternative investment. Many people in the country are looking to hedge themselves against both further equity market losses as well as the ongoing inflation in Indian shop prices.

The metal has gained value in Rupee terms almost every year over the last four decades. India accounts for the largest single physical gold market in the world. And in the physical Gold Bullion market here in Mumbai last week, gold touched a new historic high on Wednesday of Rs 13,820 per ten grams.

Investors are looking at gold to moderate some of the risks in their portfolio. They are concerned mainly about counter-party risk, market risk and liquidity risk. Although gold does not necessarily remove the counter-party risk unless you own it outright – free from anyone else's business performance and balance-sheet – the current negative real yields paid on cash are also another reason to hold gold. In India, as in much of the developed world, the difference between interest rates and inflation is now below zero. So money itself, even if “safe” in a bank, is losing value as the cost of living rises.

Gold Investment has so far been immune to the financial crisis, except for those periods when the US Dollar strengthened. One of the reasons behind the longer-term Gold Price surge in recent times has been the fall in value of Dollar. That made commodities priced in the US currency cheaper for people earning and holding other currencies.

From 1998 to early-2002, gold prices stayed mostly below $300 per ounce with heavy central bank selling and little interest from investors. In April of 2002, prices broke above $300 and eventually traded their way up to $1,000 per ounce by March of 2008. This has been an incredible climb and it is hard to say if it is over yet or not as world production is not increasing. The current range, analysts here say, appears to be between $700 and $1,000.
Commodity Online, 13 Oct '08

http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/gold_india_mumbai_stock_market_inflation_101320084

The Indian people per capita have the most gold in the world. The Indian people love gold ALOT.

If you notice the trends for gold recently its been surging up after a drop.

(http://www.kitco.com/LFgif/au0030lnb.gif)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 * Gold inches up as euro bounces against dollar

 * Deadly attacks in India have yet to spur safe-haven
buying

 * SPDR bullion holdings rise   
 (Updates prices, adds quotes)

 By Lewa Pardomuan

 SINGAPORE, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Gold edged up Thursday after
the euro bounced against the U.S. dollar, but a series of
attacks in India's financial capital that killed at least 101
people has yet to ignite safe-haven buying.

 Suspected Islamist gunmen launched attacks in the heart of
Mumbai, taking many foreigners hostage in two of the city's
plushest hotels. Authorities closed stock, bond and foreign
exchanges as commandos and armed police laid siege to the
gunmen. [ID:nSP355003]

 Gold <XAU=> was trading at $814.55 an ounce, up $2.80 an
ounce from New York's notional close on Wednesday. It rallied
to a six-week high of $830.10 on Tuesday but has since
struggled to sustain the uptrend due to volatile oil and
currency markets.

 The physical sector barely moved in Singapore, with no
signs of buying from consumers in India after the attacks.
Premiums for gold bars were unchanged at between $1.50 and $3
to the spot London prices. <GOLD/ASIA1>

 "They (India) used to buy quite a lot, I think two weeks
ago, but not now. It's pretty slow," said Beh Hsia Wah, a
dealer at United Overseas Bank in Singapore.


 Gold, which was often bought by investors in times of
uncertainty, was 21 percent below a record high of $1,030.80
struck in March but has staged a dramatic rebound since
tumbling to a 13-month low of $680.80 in October.

 "Until we know more about who's involved, what their aims
and ambitions are, it may well be considered to be an isolated
incident," said Darren Heathcote of Investec of Investec
Australia in Sydney, referring to the attacks in India.

 "Therefore, it's less likely to affect the rest of the
world, and therefore, the gold price," said Heathcote, adding
that gold was likely to stay in the current range of $770 to
$825.

 India, the world's largest gold consumer, has suffered a
wave of bomb attacks in recent years. Most have been blamed on
Islamist militants, although police have also arrested
suspected Hindu extremists thought to be behind some of the
attacks.

  The world's largest gold-backed exchange-traded fund, the
SPDR Gold Trust GLD, said it held758.12 tonnes of gold in
bank as of Nov 26, up 3.06 tonnes fromNov. 21. [GOL/SPDR]

 "I am not sure about the situation in India and how it may
affect gold. But from the gold charts, the ranges are narrowing
again, so I guess we may see a much clearer direction maybe
today or tomorrow," said a dealer in Singapore.

 The euro firmed to $1.2923 <EUR=> after falling as low as
$1.2819 the previous session, partly on pessimistic views about
the impact of a European 200 billion euro stimulus plan on the
financial crisis. [USD/]

http://ca.reuters.com/article/goldMktRpt/idUSSP35064620081127
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 05:12:32 AM
BREAKING: Mumbai Terrorist Attack Traced to Russia

A report from the India Times says the email claiming responsibility for the Mumbai terrorist attacks has been traced to Russia.

    An unknown outfit, Deccan Mujahideen, has sent an email to news organizations claiming that it carried out the Mumbai attacks.

The report says the IP address that the email was sent from was located in Russia.

See the video report here: http://broadband.indiatimes.com/toivideolist/3761413.cms .

And this additional report (http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1709418) also linking the email to Russia:

    New Delhi: Ten people reportedly sneaked into Mumbai via the sea route from Karachi and carried out a pre-planned and well-orchestrated strike in India under the aegis of the dreaded Lashkar-e-Taiba militant outfit.
    A report on Times Now quoted intelligence agencies as saying that the timing of the terror attack coincided with efforts at peace talks between the newly elected regime in Pakistan and the authorities in India.

    The militants reportedly used speed-boats to get from the coast of Karachi to Mumbai and then spread out into the southern part of the city and spread mayhem around the central business district by storming two major hotels and opening indiscriminate fire at several places.

    The report quoted the intelligence agencies as saying that this information came from one of the captured terrorists after last night's heist in India's financial capital that saw more than 87 people lose their lives and 200 being injured with a few hostage dramas continuing for nearly 12 hours.

    The report also said that there was no group called the Deccan Mujahideen and the e-mail has been traced back to a fictitious IP address in Russia. It said that the hawkish elements in Pakistan stage-managed this terror attacks to coincide with the visit of Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, who was to visit Chandigarh today in the company of his Indian counterpart Pranab Mukherjee, a trip that has since been cancelled.

Posted by CAPTAIN THURSTON at 10:24 PM
http://thebigfeed.blogspot.com/2008/11/breaking-mumbai-terrorist-attack-traced.html
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 05:33:04 AM
drumbeat to invade Pakistan building on the right-wing discussion boards:

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I hope to read the following in about three weeks:

“Military strikes were launched in numerous locations in Pakistan with joint U.S. and Indian forces. The Indian government had planned on striking on their own (options included discussion of tactical nuclear weapons) based on the results of their interrogation and analysis of satelite phone signals recorded by both Indian and U.S. intellegence. However, U.S. Secretary of State Rice was able to convince the Indians to use a combined strike force.

At least four urban locations and several remote locations were attacked using both manned and unmanned resources. At least 772 terrorists were killed and several surrendered. It is believed that several high-level terrorists were among the dead but identification is pending. Both conventional and unconventional weapons were captured, as well as a wealth of documents, computers and other resources.

While the Pakistani government offically condemns the attack, a highly placed official says that the attacks were given support by the Pakistanis based on the threat of possible nuclear weapons.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2139084/posts#28
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Invade Pakistan, take their nukes back to the US (after deciphering the instructions written in Chinese), then leave the Muslimes to the tender mercies of India
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2139084/posts#29


: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Anti_Illuminati November 27, 2008, 05:34:30 AM
The report also said that there was no group called the Deccan Mujahideen and the e-mail has been traced back to a fictitious IP address in Russia. It said that the hawkish elements in Pakistan stage-managed this terror attacks to coincide with the visit of Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, who was to visit Chandigarh today in the company of his Indian counterpart Pranab Mukherjee, a trip that has since been cancelled.

Nice find.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/mumbai-attacks-day-two/
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/11/26/world/27blogmumbaiday.jpg)
Fire fighters rescued a C. Rich Diffenderffer, an executive vice president with Transitional Technologies, from a top floor at the Taj Hotel with a rescue basket. (Photo: Michael Rubenstein for The New York Times)

"Coordinated terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India killed at least 101 people and wounded more than 250. Several targets — at least two-five star hotels, the city’s largest train station, a Jewish center, a movie theater and a hospital — were attacked by militants wielding grenades and machine guns. Ongoing hostage situations continued through the night and morning at the Taj Mahal and Oberei Hotels and the Nariman House, which is the home of the city’s Chabad-Lubavitch center. (Read the New York Times article.)

The Lede has been watching the developments.

Update | 2:39 a.m. Some more from Suketu Mehta, via the International Herald Tribune’s Anand Giridharadas:

The writer Suketu Mehta captured brilliantly the dogged, resilient compassion of Mumbai in his book “Maximum City: Mumbai Lost and Found.”

In remarks he has given based on the book, he spoke of asking a man named Asad bin Saif, who worked at an institute for secularism, whether the chaos and slums and filth made him pessimistic about human beings. Here is how Mr. Mehta continued the story:

    “Not at all,” he responded. “Look at the hands from the trains.”

    If you are late for work in the morning in Bombay, and you reach the station just as the train is leaving the platform, you can run up to the packed compartments and you will find many hands stretching out to grab you on board, unfolding outwards from the train like petals. As you run alongside the train, you will be picked up and some tiny space will be made for your feet on the edge of the compartment. The rest is up to you; you will probably have to hang on with your fingertips on
    the door frame, being careful not to lean out too far lest you get decapitated by a pole placed too close to the tracks. But consider what has happened: your fellow-passengers, already packed tighter than cattle are legally allowed to be, their shirts already drenched in sweat in the badly ventilated compartment, having stood like this for hours, retain an empathy for you, know that your boss might yell at you or cut your pay if you miss this train, and will make space where none exists to take one more person with them. And at the moment of contact, they do not know if the hand that is reaching for theirs belongs to a Hindu or Muslim or Christian or Brahmin or untouchable, or whether you were born in this city or arrived only this morning, or whether you live in Malabar Hill or Jogeshwari, whether you’re from Bombay or Mumbai or New York. All they know is that you’re trying to get to work in the city of gold, and that’s enough. Come on board, they say. We’ll adjust.

Update | 2:08 a.m. Blake Hounshell writes on Foreign Policy’s Passport Blog that one must always be suspicious when a “new” terrorist organization crops up. The Passport Blog is not alone in asking about the sudden emergence of the Deccan Mujahideen, who claimed responsibility for the Mumbai attack.

The group, previously unknown, is named for an area in southern India. Some analysts are saying that the group is likely connected to the Indian Mujahideen, which has made credible claims of responsibility for other recent attacks in India. In May, the Indian Mujahideen threatened to attack tourist sites if the Indian government continued to support U.S. foreign policy, according to Reuters India. More from Reuters India:

    Witnesses say the attackers were young South Asian men speaking Hindi or Urdu, suggesting they are probably members of an Indian militant group rather than foreigners…

    … Analysts say that while it is not clear whether the claim is genuine, the attacks were most likely carried out by a group called the Indian Mujahideen. The name used in the claim of responsibility suggests the attackers could be members of a south Indian offshoot or cell of the Indian Mujahideen.

The Guardian also said that the tactics used in yesterday’s attack seemed similar to those of the Indian Mujahideen:

    [The] killings involved gunmen rather than the bombs used in the earlier attacks, the degree of coordination involved points to the same hand at work.

Update | 2:05 a.m. The bodies of two female guests have been recorded from the Taj Hotel, IBNLive reports. The commando operation at the hotel continues. In all, five terrorists have been killed and one arrested, while 11 police officers have died, the station reports.

Update | 2:04 a.m. We just heard from a reader, Supriya Nair, a journalist who works “in the Colaba area, not a minute from the Taj,” and wanted to share some thoughts about the coverage:

    Details matter.

    The hotel means as much to me as it does to any Mumbaikar, but I do wish people would stop talking about it. The people trapped there - and the ones injured and killed in less glamourous locations - are not symbols. The Taj itself has been rebuilt a couple of times after accidents and the like over the last century. This is not a city that has ever cared much for symbols. We build them all the time, they wash away, we build again. It’s the people who are the bricks of the city.

    I know international news services have been worried for their own (and my thoughts are with you, because I know how terrible it can be to wait for news from a loved one trapped in a situation like this). At last count, 95 out of over a 100 dead were Indians, though.

Update | 1:30 a.m. . Reuters is reporting that there could still be many hostages inside the Oberoi hotel:

    The deputy chief minister of India’s Maharashtra state said on Thursday that there could be between 100 and 200 guests and workers trapped in the Trident-Oberoi Hotel, with 10-12 militants also inside.

    “There could be 100-200 people inside the hotel, but we cannot give you the exact figure as many people have locked themselves inside their rooms,” R.R. Patil told reporters.

    “There could be 10-12 terrorists inside the hotel. There are no negotiations with the terrorists.”

Update | 1:08 a.m. Police and commandos began an operation against militants holding hostages inside the Trident Oberoi Hotel in Mumbai, local television stations said on Thursday, according to Reuters.

Update | 12:28 a.m. Vice Admiral Jagjit Singh Bedi is now on IBNLive saying that there are still 40 to 50 hostages in the Taj Hotel. We posted a live stream to IBN earlier, but here it is again.

Update | 12:11 a.m. Earlier, Suketu Mehta, who compared Mumbai to New York in his book Maximum City, attempted to put the scale of the attack in Mumbai in perspective for New Yorkers, saying that it would be “as if terrorists had taken over the Four Seasons and the Waldorf=Astoria and then were running around shooting people in Times Square.” Mayor Michael Bloomberg also saw a parallel between the two diverse financial capitals, pointing out that New York dealt with its own terrorist threat yesterday. He will attend a prayer service at the Ganesha Temple in Queens Thursday.

Our colleague Anand Giridharadas, who writes a column for the International Herald Tribune, sees the Taj Hotel as unique. He had this to say:

    Anyone, anywhere who has lived in Mumbai was gasping at the sight of a burning Taj Mahal Palace & Tower hotel. That is because it is not your average hotel.

    It is not another Sheraton or Hilton in the business district of another world city. It is the aorta through which anything glamorous, sentimental, confidential or profitable passes in Mumbai. Its major role is to serve its guests, who come from around the world and elsewhere in India. But it also serves the local city in a way that few hotels in the world could claim to do.

    If a momentous infidelity is being committed on a given night, or a billion-dollar business deal being inked, or a recklessly brilliant idea being hatched, there is a fair chance it is being committed,
    inked, hatched at the Taj. Mumbaikars who can afford it have their most romantic meals at its Wasabi restaurant, accept marriage proposals in its Sea Lounge, land job offers in its coffee shop.
    Non-guests are forbidden to use the pool. But so many Mumbaikars enterprisingly bring a towel, furnish a fake room number and dip into its manmade lagoon.

    It stands across from the Gateway of India. Those who would not dream of paying $3 – a decent daily wage – for one of its fresh-lime sodas sit outside the hotel, leaning against the stone wall on the sea. They take in the scene; they admire the finely dressed people breezing in and out. They know that it is not their time for the Taj now, but, should a fortune bless them, it is in the Taj they will spend it.

    Few other hotels of the world could say they were built out of spite.

    Legend has it that Jamsetji Tata, a nineteenth-century industrialist, was once turned away from a hotel in British-era Mumbai because he happened to be Indian. He decided, in a strange kind of revenge, to
    build the best hotel in the country, outfitted with German elevators, French bathtubs and other refinements from all around the world.

    The hotel became, for many Indians, a symbol of the overthrow of the indignities of the colonial age. And it became a symbol of the best that could be had in a city paved with dreams.

Update | 12:03 a.m. The Associated Press has an update on the siege at the Nariman House:

    Media reports say gunmen seized the Mumbai headquarters of the ultra-orthodox Jewish outreach group Chabad Lubavitch overnight, and that shots have now been heard coming from the building.

    Representatives of the New York-based group referred questions to their Web site, which said the Israeli consulate had earlier been in touch with the rabbi who lived in the house, “but the line was cut in middle of the conversation. No further contact has since been established.”

Update | 11:50 p.m. CNN is reporting that the hostage situation at the Taj hotel has been resolved.

Update | 11:28 p.m. The Associated Press is reporting that the death toll now stands at 101:

    “Pradeep Indulkar, a senior official at the Maharashtra state Home Ministry said 101 people were killed and 287 injured

    Officials said at least 6 militants had also been killed since the overnight attacks began around 9:30 p.m.”

Reuters is also reporting on statements made by a militant to India TV:

    A militant holed up inside Mumbai’s Oberoi Hotel told India TV on Thursday that seven attackers were holding hostages inside the luxury establisment.

    “There are seven of us inside hotel Oberoi,” the man identified as Sahadullah told India TV.

    “We want all Mujahideens held in India released and only after that we will release the people.”

    “Release all the Mujahideens, and Muslims living in India should not be troubled,” he said.

Update | 11:11 p.m. The police have requested that reporters and tweeters do not discuss their movements, because they are concerned that the terrorists in the Taj and Oberoi Hotels are watching television to monitor the situation. IBN, an Indian broadcaster, reports that commando operations are taking place, but they cannot show images of the operation.

Update | 10:27 p.m. This morning in Mumbai, life has “come to a standstill,” according to IBN. The station reports that the markets will not open, schools and colleges are closed, many flights to Mumbai have been canceled or delayed and Crickets TwentyChampions League. have been shifted out of the city for the moment. The train system, which carries 16 million passengers daily, has only about 10 percent of its normal traffic.

South Mumbai is a “war zone”, according to the station, and the police appear to be moving on the Taj and Oberoi Hotels, where hostages are still being held.

If you have photographs of what is happening in Mumbai, we’d like see them. To submit a photograph, please send it by e-mail to the following address: world.nyt@gmail.com — and let us know when and where the photograph was taken and what it depicts. Please also include your name; if you would prefer not to be identified online, let us know that as well."
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 05:41:50 AM
12 young guys, 20 - 25 years old, can wreak so much havoc and can kill 100+ people and injure 200+ people in 8+ separate, simultaneous attacks?

Either:
1. There are more terrorists than 12
2. They are being helped by the authorities
3. The authorities really are not capable to dealing with any threat
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: LoreOnTerror November 27, 2008, 05:50:32 AM
Out of all of those pictures from different places you only have two guys.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: dsyd November 27, 2008, 05:54:02 AM
Indian Mujahideen threatened to target Mumbai in September. Not sure if this has been posted already, couldn't find it though.


Indian Mujahideen threatens to target Mumbai
Indo-Asian News Service
New Delhi,  September 14, 2008    

The Indian Mujahideen, which has claimed the responsibility for the serial terror blasts in Delhi, Ahmedabad, Bangalore and Jaipur, which killed at least 130 people in a span of four months, has now threatened to carry out attacks in India's financial capital - Mumbai.

http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&issueid=71&task=view&id=15328&sectionid=4&Itemid=1
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 05:59:58 AM
India seeks Israel help in killing Muslims in Occupied Kashmir
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/8164
HERE IS AN EXPLANATION FOR THE MANY "TERRORIST ATTACKS" (COUNTER-INSURGENCY OPERATIONS) AGAINST AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN, AS WELL AS "FALSE FLAG" ATTACKS UPON INDIA BY ELUSIVE NEW GROUPS ("Indian Mujahideen")
INDIA WANTS ISRAEL TO REPLICATE THE FAILED GEORGIAN PROVOCATION IN KASHMIR.


India seeks Israel help in killing Muslims in Occupied Kashmir (Note: I cannot find original story)

India has turned to Israel for assistance in fighting so-called militants in the disputed Kashmir region, the Israel Today magazine reports.

Quoting Israeli media reports this week, the magazine said Israeli Gen Avi Mizrahi, head of Israel’s Ground Forces Command, reportedly paid a visit to Indian-held Kashmir (IHK) last week to assess India’s counterterrorism efforts and the preparedness of Indian forces.

The visit ended with a proposed agreement under which Israel will send teams of commandoes to train Indian soldiers in counterterrorism tactics and urban warfare, the report said. Mizrahi’s trip was kept secret for fear of sparking unrest among Indian Muslims, but has since been widely reported in the Indian and Pakistani press, the report said.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:08:11 AM
More info that "Indian Mujahideen" is G7/CIA!


American expats caught up in Indian bomb blast inquiry
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/29/india.terrorism

guardian.co.uk, Tuesday July 29 2008 13.19 BST

(Remember British SAS caught in Arab garb w/explosives in Iraq? This crap goes back 100's of years, divide conquer and get security contracts .., will dig on this "consultant" PMC?)

A bomb squad officer defuses a live device in Ahmedabad, India. At least 45 people were killed in a series of up to 16 explosions across the city. Photograph: Ajit Solanki/AP

When Indian police investigating bomb blasts which killed 42 people traced an email claiming responsibility to a Mumbai apartment, they ordered an immediate raid.

But at the address, rather than seizing militants from the Islamist group which said it carried out the attack, they found a group of puzzled American expats.

In a cautionary tale for those still lax with their wireless internet security, police believe the email about the explosions on Saturday in the west Indian city of Ahmedabad was sent after someone hijacked the network belonging to one of the Americans, 48-year-old Kenneth Haywood.

The IP address for the email claiming responsibility for an obscure group called the Indian Mujahideen was traced by police to Haywood's laptop. They then raided the plush 15th-floor apartment.

Officers believe the email could have been sent by anyone within two floors of Haywood's flat.

"He has never been detained, but we have called on him and questioned him as part of the investigation," said Parambir Singh, a senior officer in the anti-terrorism squad.

"He has said his email ID was hacked and evidence we have gathered shows that his network was used to forward the mail."

The Hindustan Times newspaper quoted Haywood, a business consultant, as saying the technician who set up the web connection had insisted he not change his default password.

He told the paper he had already complained about excessively high browsing bills: "I found that my net usage had suddenly increased and I started getting inflated bills."

Singh said Haywood and the other occupants of the flat — variously reported as being another man or his family — were still being questioned.

"We are not saying that they are suspects, but at the same time we cannot, at the moment, give them a clean chit," he said.

The hunt for those behind the blasts is now centred on Mumbai. Police believe the plot was hatched in the suburb of Navi Mumbai, from where four cars used in the attack were stolen.

The death toll from the 22 separate bombs was initially put at 45, but later reduced to 42 after it emerged some fatalities had been reported twice amid the confusion. More than 180 people were injured.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:09:28 AM
More on Kenneth Haywood...

India Bombing,Yahoo!,Fox News,Kenneth Haywood,Campbell White,Door,Christian Fellowship Ministries
http://www.phillyimc.org/en/node/71510
by Tony Ryals | 08.01.2008



The only problem is, Campbell White, the firm that Haywood works for, is not a multinational company at all. Or, if it is, it’s certainly a very strange one. What I’ve managed to find out is that Campbell White is effectively a front for a far right Christian cult, and is far from the image being spun by Haywood and the media......Fortunately for them, Campbell White erased key details of its staff from its website in early July 2008. Unfortunately for them, Google caches such things, so ferrets like me can have ready access. What you find is a list of American and Australian expats fulfilling the usual roles (India managing director, manager of human resources etc..) Superficially there is nothing odd about that at all. What you find at the current site, however, is a strange list of first names (no “Ken” you might notice)... - from gnn article with link below

India Bombing,Yahoo!,Fox News,Kenneth Haywood,Campbell White,Door,Christian Fellowship Ministries
 

India Bombing,Yahoo!,Fox News,Kenneth Haywood,Campbell White,Door Ministries,Christian Fellowship Ministries

This is yet another upate from my last post on Jakarta Inymedia titled,''Yahoo!,India Bombing:Ken Haywood or Keith Heywood ?
U.S. military, police ? 'Kens White' his wife ?''

http://jakarta.indymedia.org/newswire.php?story_id=1927

As well as :

Follow up to post :

Yahoo!,India Bombing:Kenneth Haywood,CampbellWhite Computer:Strange Fox News' Frank Luntz Connection

http://jakarta.indymedia.org/newswire.php?story_id=1925

I have today come across a very good article from gnn website that does some good research.It appears whether Kenneth Haywood has been U.S military or police in past or not their Campbell White is a fraud company with right wing Christian fundamentalists behind it who appear to be in favor of stirring uo religious controversy and religious financial fraud whether in America,India or elsewhere. Appropriate that they Campbell White and Heyweood,et.al. see Rupert Murdoch's Fox News and or its U.S. Repulican Party spokesman Frank Luntz as their role model.While I post the article in full it is recommended to read the original at linkposted that will have additional links to the Google caches and 'chritian' websites documenting the article and investigation of gnn itself.

Tony Ryals

Opening the Doors of hell in India:

http://szamko.gnn.tv/blogs/28955/Opening_the_Doors_of_h...India

As I noticed in the Guardian yesterday, when police tracked down the wifi signal it turned out that the laptop from which it emanated belonged not to a wizened old sheik or a member of Mumbai’s mafia families, but to an “expat American” by the name of Kenneth Haywood.....

As Parambir Singh of India’s anti-terrorist squad put it, “We are not saying that they are suspects, but at the same time we cannot, at the moment, give them a clean chit.” And this was sensible, as Haywood’s computer remains in the lab being tested where, as the Hindu reports today, “it [will] take three or four days for completing the analysis of the hard disk.”

Meanwhile, Singh’s boss, Hemant Karkare told the Indian daily that “Experts are still on the job” and that Haywood, “is very much on the radar of suspicion.”.........

It is possible that Haywood has been the victim of an horrendous example of identity theft. Certainly, it would be nice to give a respectable guy who “has more than 20 years of experience in hands-on corporate training and has held senior positions with Fortune 500 companies” the benefit of the doubt.

The only problem is, Campbell White, the firm that Haywood works for, is not a multinational company at all. Or, if it is, it’s certainly a very strange one. What I’ve managed to find out is that Campbell White is effectively a front for a far right Christian cult, and is far from the image being spun by Haywood and the media. This will take a little explaining, but it’s well worth it.

Fortunately for them, Campbell White erased key details of its staff from its website in early July 2008. Unfortunately for them, Google caches such things, so ferrets like me can have ready access. What you find is a list of American and Australian expats fulfilling the usual roles (India managing director, manager of human resources etc..) Superficially there is nothing odd about that at all. What you find at the current site, however, is a strange list of first names (no “Ken” you might notice)...

But what of Ken Haywood himself, our man on the spot with the troublesome wifi connection which spews out hate e-mails seeking to stir up trouble between Hindus and Muslims? Well, armed with the connection between Door Christian Church and Campbell White, I searched for Ken Haywood and Door Ministries. What I found was an extremely detailed website run by a chap named Steve Schoner and entitled “After Potter’s House..”

It turns out that Schoner was sued in 1994 by a member of Potter’s House (an alternative name for the Door Church). His offence was protesting against the church’s cult like activities in Flagstaff Arizona. As you might have guessed, the man pressing the complaint was the very public spirited, Kenneth Haywood. Perhaps not the same man, but certainly a gem of a coincidence I hope you’ll agree.

Apparently, Haywood sued Schoner et al for “[causing] emotional damages because he referred to them as a cult and that their reaction to that was that they had physical manifestations….including a heart attack” and it was devilish placards like this that brought on the angst:

The dirty heathens! Joking aside, it turns out that the Christian Fellowship Ministries have stirred up a great deal of controversy for their cult like activities. Some parents have gone on the record claiming that their sons and daughters have been “lost” to them for years due to the CFM’s separatist tenets.......

CFM also has a novel and deeply profitable structure. As the KPHO report put it, “Some people also criticize the church’s financial structure, which is a pyramid structure. If one parish is able to set up another church — that church must send 5% of its offerings back to the sponsor church — and send 5% to the Mother church in Prescott [Arizona].” [More info on the church here, courtesy of investigator Rick Ross]

Could it be the CFM has identified an unprecedented growth market for its business model in the teeming millions of India?........

.............
Opening the Doors of hell in India
B28955 / Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:17:21 / "War on Terror"
Apologies for not posting in these parts for a while, but various reality-based necessities have intruded and limited my scope for wildcat investigation and general commentary. Never fear though, as I’ve got an intriguing tale up my sleeve to rouse the GNN crowd from its stupor. It involves hijacked wifi connections, mysterious car thefts, illegally rented apartments and the death of about 40 innocent people in the city of Ahmedenebad, India. It may also involve a whole lot more, and certainly more than the media is letting on (or willing to see).

Anyhow, let’s survey the facts of the matter as they stand. Last week 22 separate bomb blasts claimed between 42 and 45 lives in Ahmedabad, western India. This is nothing unusual, alas, in India at the moment, where bombings are becoming depressingly regular occurences. Authorities never seem to catch the culprits, and different groups continue to pop up to claim responsibility, although the police and the commentariat invariably use each atrocity as an opportunity to crack down on muslim student groups, or various factions in India’s criminal underworld.

Last week’s blasts were no exception. When a note claiming responsiblity did emerge, it was sent to India’s largest television networks, written in English and originating from a standard Yahoo account. It was also signed by a group called the “Indian mujahadeen” – previously unknown to authorities – and it focused on massacres committed by Hindus against Muslims (such as the Gujarat pogroms of 2002). The subject line of the note was “Await 5 minutes for the revenge of Gujarat” while its contents thundered that “In the name of Allah the Indian Mujahideen strike again! Do whatever you can, within 5 minutes from now, feel the terror of Death.”

When CNN-IBN received the note, it broadcast its contents and then sent the mail onto India’s police. Then, using some pretty elementary technical nous, the police managed to track the source of the mail to a wifi connection in the Navi Mumbai area of Mumbai, a newish development targeted decidedly at the upper range of Mumbai’s demographics. This was unusual – terrorists operating out of a yuppie suburb. Police also confirmed that the cars used in the Ahmedabad attacks were also stolen from Navi Mumbai.

It was surely then only a matter of time before the attackers were exposed and the kingpin behind the atrocities could be paraded before the cameras in a coup for justice against rampant islamist terror… But there was a snag. As I noticed in the Guardian yesterday, when police tracked down the wifi signal it turned out that the laptop from which it emanated belonged not to a wizened old sheik or a member of Mumbai’s mafia families, but to an “expat American” by the name of Kenneth Haywood.

What the hell had happened? Haywood claimed that his account had been hacked and that the terrorists had sneaked into his apartment block, used his connection and then scarpered, hiding their tracks as they went. Quite why they would then steal the cars from the same area, thereby alerting police to their activities (and providing an opportunity to track them down on CCTV etc..) was not explained.

Nevertheless, by and large the international and Indian media have accepted Haywood’s story. And who are we to disbelieve an account as reasonable as this (from the Guardian):

The Hindustan Times newspaper quoted Haywood, a business consultant, as saying the technician who set up the web connection had insisted he not change his default password…He told the paper he had already complained about excessively high browsing bills: “I found that my net usage had suddenly increased and I started getting inflated bills.”
As Parambir Singh of India’s anti-terrorist squad put it, “We are not saying that they are suspects, but at the same time we cannot, at the moment, give them a clean chit.” And this was sensible, as Haywood’s computer remains in the lab being tested where, as the Hindu reports today, “it [will] take three or four days for completing the analysis of the hard disk.”

Meanwhile, Singh’s boss, Hemant Karkare told the Indian daily that “Experts are still on the job” and that Haywood, “is very much on the radar of suspicion.”

Is it possible that an American working for what one paper describes as a “multi-national company” and another describes as an “executive training firm” could have been somehow involved in the massacre of 42 innocent people? Or, to add some more pertinent information, was he involved in the attempted massacre of hundreds more? Since the bombs exploded in Ahmedabad, police have found 19 devices in the town of Surat, some placed in packed marketplaces, and 7 explosions have hit Bangalore, with one fatality.

It is possible that Haywood has been the victim of an horrendous example of identity theft. Certainly, it would be nice to give a respectable guy who “has more than 20 years of experience in hands-on corporate training and has held senior positions with Fortune 500 companies” the benefit of the doubt.

The only problem is, Campbell White, the firm that Haywood works for, is not a multinational company at all. Or, if it is, it’s certainly a very strange one. What I’ve managed to find out is that Campbell White is effectively a front for a far right Christian cult, and is far from the image being spun by Haywood and the media. This will take a little explaining, but it’s well worth it.

Fortunately for them, Campbell White erased key details of its staff from its website in early July 2008. Unfortunately for them, Google caches such things, so ferrets like me can have ready access. What you find is a list of American and Australian expats fulfilling the usual roles (India managing director, manager of human resources etc..) Superficially there is nothing odd about that at all. What you find at the current site, however, is a strange list of first names (no “Ken” you might notice).

Anyhow, a little googling around with the actual names produces some very interesting results. I do hope the Indian police have been doing this, I really do. First port of call was to assess Campbell White’s corporate history, to provide a little meat to the investigation. What you find is a cached webpage describing how the very same firm provides(d) “chauffeur drive buses and taxis” in Bangalore, through its Bangalore Chauffeur Driven Buses and Taxis subsidiary. That taxi company was headed by the same David Curwen Walker (“an experienced chauffeur with over 25 years of professional driving in Australia and Africa”) who has since become “responsible for our Internal Legal Department, and integration of International Operations Training” according to the staff list deleted this month. Talented guy.

So searched for David’s web presence, figuring that a man with such experience would be all over the net. It turned out that he wasn’t really, but that a David Curwen Walker had posted a couple of items on a site called Churchfinder. At that site, Curwen Walker described himself as a “pastor” of the Door Christian Church in Kammanahalli dispensing “good, solid preaching of the Word of God.” Nice of him to balance driving, legal services and serving the Lord.

Anyhow, thinking that googling staff members had been a relative success so far, I picked another member with a distinctive name, Scott Grabowska. Astonishingly, a Scott Grabowska was listed as hosting a “special revival service” at the Door Church in Englewood Colorado, nightly services at the Potter’s House Christian Fellowship Church in Virginia Beach, VA and a service in Shreveport, Louisiana as well. This, while serving Campbell White, perhaps, as “International Protocol Trainer.”

Thinking that this could be a notable coincidence, I soldiered on, adding Jonathan Heimberg to the list. Heimberg is listed as Campbell White’s tech guy (“Senior Manager Information Services”) but could he be related to the Jonathan Heimberg who comments from Bangalore on the website worldcfm.com? Worldcfm, by the way, stands for “world Christian Fellowship Ministries.” Heimberg commented rapturously that “In the last week, we have seen a sovereign move of God. We have tapped a stream of converts from North East India, the state of Nagalin” adding that, “These bright, young people have come to Bangalore for Schooling and Hi-Tech careers, and a great many have begun coming to the church.”

So perhaps I was on a roll. Pushing my luck luxuriously, I moved onto Dan Rubianes, Campbell White’s managing director in Bangalore, no less. Well, google is not very forthcoming with details about Dan, but by sheer coincidence I’ve managed to track down the name at a forthcoming biblical spectacular – the 2008 Chandler International Bible Conference, being hosted by the Door Christian Center in Chandler, Arizona. There, a certain Dan Rubianes will be headlining alongside a certain Pastor Joe Campbell who, could quite easily be a distant relation of the Joe Campbell listed as the USA director of Campbell White.

If you want to get tickets it starts on August 10, so you’d better hurry. Incidentally, last year saw the appearance of a certain Scott Grabowska, so the connections really are rather deep I’d say. I hope you’ve stayed with me long enough to enjoy them.

But what of Ken Haywood himself, our man on the spot with the troublesome wifi connection which spews out hate e-mails seeking to stir up trouble between Hindus and Muslims? Well, armed with the connection between Door Christian Church and Campbell White, I searched for Ken Haywood and Door Ministries. What I found was an extremely detailed website run by a chap named Steve Schoner and entitled “After Potter’s House..”

It turns out that Schoner was sued in 1994 by a member of Potter’s House (an alternative name for the Door Church). His offence was protesting against the church’s cult like activities in Flagstaff Arizona. As you might have guessed, the man pressing the complaint was the very public spirited, Kenneth Haywood. Perhaps not the same man, but certainly a gem of a coincidence I hope you’ll agree.

Apparently, Haywood sued Schoner et al for “[causing] emotional damages because he referred to them as a cult and that their reaction to that was that they had physical manifestations….including a heart attack” and it was devilish placards like this that brought on the angst:

The dirty heathens! Joking aside, it turns out that the Christian Fellowship Ministries have stirred up a great deal of controversy for their cult like activities. Some parents have gone on the record claiming that their sons and daughters have been “lost” to them for years due to the CFM’s separatist tenets.

In one case, a 5 year old girl was subjected to the sight of a pastor dressing up as the devil and plunging her hands in a bucket of blood. The pastor in question, a man named Dan Mazon, “said the blood was fake, but admitted trying to scare the 5-year-old from sex and drugs” according to a 2004 news report by KPHO Phoenix. Mazon added chillingly that “That’s the problem with this generation that does not understand fear.”

CFM also has a novel and deeply profitable structure. As the KPHO report put it, “Some people also criticize the church’s financial structure, which is a pyramid structure. If one parish is able to set up another church — that church must send 5% of its offerings back to the sponsor church — and send 5% to the Mother church in Prescott [Arizona].” [More info on the church here, courtesy of investigator Rick Ross]

Could it be the CFM has identified an unprecedented growth market for its business model in the teeming millions of India?

CFM founder Wayman Mitchell has shown a passion for the spirit of the subcontinent in the past. As his website documents, in 1984 he and several disciples had an emotional experience on the site of the martyrdom of St. Thomas:

It is said that as he preached the gospel to a wild Indian tribe they pierced him through with a spear. As we stood overlooking that city I could not help but think how far this man had come. is so far that it staggers the mind. Remember, he had no airplanes, no modem [sic] means of transportation, none of the things we have…We think it is a great task when we climb on one of those monstrous 747’s to go around the world and land in twenty or thirty hours, but think of Thomas! He’d have to travel for several months at the very least and possibly years, to come to that wild place on the east India coast. This man had a world vision. God stir us as we read this that we may understand the seriousness of what we are talking about. When the Lord Jesus said, “I send you to the nations,” He was talking about a fundamental principle of world evangelism.
Later on, Mitchell related how “Not knowing what we were going to see Mike Maston, Larry Neville, Jack Harris and myself, were standing on the brink of destiny. God had placed within our hands the tools and the ability to affect that nation for eternity. He was opening the door. We are talking about a sovereign God, a king. This is a royal commission.”

Yes indeed, a “royal commission,” but what Indian police should be asking themselves is what, exactly has been committed?
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:12:49 AM
Even more on Kenneth Haywood...

THE STRANGE CASE OF ATS AND US CITIZEN KEN HAYWOOD FLEEING INDIA
By ghulammuhammed
http://ghulammuhammed.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/the-strange-case-of-ats-and-us-citizen-ken-haywood-fleeing-india/
Tuesday, August 19, 2008


Times of India redeem ED its credibility when it published as its front page banner headlines, the shocking news of Haywood leaving India despite a lookout notice. Haywood had been under Anti Terrorist Squad’s scrutiny, over the matter of the infamous Email supposedly sent out in the name of a fictitious organisation calling itself ‘Indian Mujahideen’, traced to Key Haywood’s laptop. For over weeks, while ATS had questioned reportedly 1000 people and searched neighbourhood apartments, trying to figure out, how Ken Haywood’s laptop could have been hacked, if at all. A narco test on Haywood too had been carried out. According to ATS, Haywood has not been arrested. In Muslim circle, this glaring discriminative practice is a matter of much debate and heartburn, that just because Haywood is a US citizen, he is being given preferential such kid glove treatment. If a similar case had been observed involving an Indian Muslim, the accused would have been summarily incarcerated and given third degree while questioned. Back in US too, Indian citizens have been given similar harsh treatment, when suspected of even peripherally being associated with some terror incident.

ATS has asked him to be available for questioning and a lookout notice has been issued to the immigration authorities. Still, the man, possibly through US consular help, was able to hoodwink immigration authorities at New Delhi airport and flew off to the US.

So much for the spine of Indian authorities who are being harangued to cooperate with the US over global terrorism and for their discriminative behavior when it involves two different nationalities, on their own!

Ken Haywood’s background is reported to be anything but straight forward.

The Indian Express carries a report: ‘The curious case of Kenneth Haywood’, published on Thursday, August 14, 2008:

( http://www.indianexpress.com/story/348646.html )

The curious case of Ken Haywood


Posted online: Thursday, August 14, 2008 at 0052 hrs

As the American undergoes lie detector test, the Anti-Terror Squad is trying to figure out the man behind his personae

Sagnik Chowdhury, Smita Nair & Johnson T A

Mumbai/ Bangalore , August 13: Ken Haywood, the American national from whose Internet Protocol (IP) address the terror e-mail was sent prior to the Ahmedabad serial blasts, underwent lie detector tests on Wednesday, a senior police official said in Mumbai. Maharashtra’s Anti-Terror Squad (ATS), which is probing the case, traced the e-mail to Haywood’s flat in Navi Mumbai and found that his background and job were “of a slightly dubious nature”. But the information available so far is not good enough to charge him or suggest his involvement in the case.

 “We have conducted inquiries on Haywood’s background and his company. These are of a slightly dubious nature, and even the company he works for and its office are a bit suspect,” ATS chief Hemant Karkare told The Indian Express. “However, this does not directly link him with the case in any way. After all, having a suspicious background, or even working for a bogus company is not enough to book anyone for involvement in terror activities,” he added.

G S Hegde, Haywood’s lawyer, said: “The ATS has not said anything about Haywood’s personal life, or his involvement in any criminal activities. We maintain he is innocent.”

The police in Mumbai and Bangalore have said there is primary evidence to show that Haywood’s wi-fi account was hacked into and compromised, resulting in the terror e-mail on July 26 — five minutes before the blasts. Questions remain as to who did it and how they picked on Haywood’s computer network.

Haywood is supposed to be a corporate training manager and general manager with a company called Campbell White, which describes itself on its website as a “premier executive soft skills trainer”.

On the corporate side, Daniel Rubianes is the managing director of the company with its main office at the first floor of the M S Plaza in east Bangalore. Rubianes, like many other employees of Campbell White, wears a second hat. On Thursdays and Sundays, he is pastor Dan Rubianes, the head of the Door Christian Centre — a church with origins in Arizona in the US but relatively new to India. Door Christian Centre is a part of the Pentecostal Christian Fellowship Ministries, also known as the Potter’s House. Haywood is a functionary of the Potter’s House in Mumbai.

The Indian Express found that the Mumbai office of the MNC is located in two small adjoining rented rooms on the ground floor of Sanpada railway station complex in Navi Mumbai. The two rooms also serve as prayer rooms on Sundays and Thursdays for the Potter’s House. A notice pasted on the wall says the community service has been cancelled until further notice and is signed by Haywood.

Brother Richard D’Souza, the contact person for the centre, said, “We have been running our prayer service for the last one year from these premises. It is only this year that Campbell White opened its branch here.” He said 20 students learn English from Haywood.

Campbell White has, meanwhile, removed details regarding its employees from its website to protect “workers and their families from malicious intents by anyone”. “Campbell White will continue to support police authorities with full cooperation… We have emphasised to them that they should work diligently and quickly to find suspects and bring them to justice so that Mr. Haywood may return to his normal course of business,” it says.

ATS officials raided Haywood’s residence on July 27. Ten computers from neighbouring houses and Haywood’s residence were sent to the Kalina Forensic Science Laboratory for analysis.

Physical and Internet-based checks on other past and present employees of Campbell White like Scott Grabowska, a former Mumbai-based international protocol trainer, David Curwen-Walker, a senior operations manager, and Jonathan Heimberg, a senior information services manager, both in Bangalore, have shown links to the church. For instance, Curwen-Walker and Heimberg head the Door churches at Kammanahalli and Koramangala in Bangalore.

However, Campbell White and the Door church officials have remained elusive on the links between the two entities. When contacted Michael White, an Australia-based director for Campbell White, refused to comment on the India operations. “You must speak to Dan Rubianes in Bangalore,” he said.

Some churchgoers at the Door Christian Centre in Cox Town in Bangalore said Rubianes had left for the US on August 3 to attend a Bible conference in Arizona.

“Campbell White is a business that pastor Dan runs. We as churchgoers are not aware of its nature,” said Hemanth Kumar, an engineering student, who has been associated with the church since it began three years ago. “Being American, pastors are equipped to work as accent trainers. In Bangalore, many such people work in churches,” added Ravi Kumar, a member of the church in Bangalore.

Incidentally, Joseph Campbell, who is listed as the US director of Campbell White, is believed to be the seniormost pastor of the Door church in Arizona.

editor@expressindia.com
 
It is therefore strange that one clue, that could have possibly turned the whole direction of bomb blast investigations to foreign elements, was so callously handled. Even for media, this is most unusual and has created great suspicion in the minds of people that a bogey of SIMI line up of usual suspects had been used to camouflage, the possible link of a sleeper cell posing as Christian Missionaries that could have been behind the overall organisation of the serial bomb blasts, in Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Surat, through their local agents.

Some more surprises were in the pipeline, when one fine day last week, columns and columns of print media space, in Times of India and other newspapers, written out by possibly each and every of their writer staff, doing overtime work, to have come out with the greatest fiction story of the arrests and involvement of SIMI suspects, without any need to provide any hard facts over such allegation. Given police record, people are most skeptical about their Goebbellian propaganda bringing out the true facts. Police credibility is at its lowest ebb. And if the media is hand in glove with such dubious exercises, it will not only lose its own credibility, but would do a great disservice to the nation.

Under such an atmosphere of press bending to political and police pressure to break fake stories on the gullible public, Times of India’s strong exception to the flight of Kenneth Haywood, is certainly laudable. This proves that there are more to the affairs of the state than that is revealed to the public. The dangerous game that some rogue elements are playing in demonizing a preferred victimized community cannot bring peace to the nation. The real culprits with international agenda of destabilising country after country, for self-serving objectives, should be brought to justice. But before that the people should be dutifully informed with the stark facts and nothing but the facts.

Kenneth Hayward’s lead should not be left out of the investigation of serial bomb blasts in Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Surat. His possible accomplices, if any, should be traced and exposed. India cannot afford to go soft on terror, coming from sources other than those conveniently preferred by a prejudiced police and investigative force. All leads should be dutifully pursued in the interest of the security, integrity and communal harmony of the nation.

 
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:19:19 AM
Did Kenneth Haywood have any military training?

Survey says...



YES

from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Haywood

Kenneth L. Haywood Birth 1964 Attended both Prescott, AZ, and Kingman, AZ High schools to Graduation in 1981 Honorably Discharged from both US Marine Corps, and US Navy.

Why was he discharged and serving in two separate branches of the US military?  Does this usually indicate some type of special forces training?

Nothing to see here guys, go back to sleep.

All coincidences.
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: scary November 27, 2008, 06:30:26 AM
TOTAL INSIDE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 06:37:31 AM
This is like a spy thriller.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:39:06 AM
From 2006...


How does the US benefit from a destabilization of India?
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_991.shtml

A breakout of war between Pakistan and India favors US geostrategy in a number of ways. The possibilities will undoubtedly be analyzed, in coming weeks and months.

Broadly, the collapse of the Indio-Pak peace process opens the political doors for new US military interventions on the Eurasian subcontinent, and a restrengthening of the US presence on the Eurasian corridor, (which has, in recent months, been weakened by perceived failure of the Bush administration’s Iraq operation).

The other geopolitical “games” that benefit from violence in India include the setup towards any military action in Iran, revived operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the continuing superpower chess games with China and Russia. The overriding long-term imperative for all nations, of course, is energy.

As Ruppert notes in Crossing the Rubicon:

“If energy demand in China, India and Indonesia is allowed to grow as much as analysts say it will, then these three countries may well crowd the rest of the world out of the energy market . . . It is plain that growing energy demands will bring China, India and Indonesia into conflict with the developed world. The United States in particular, as the top world consumer of oil, will likely either have to curb consumption to make room for other countries or will have to find some way to curb demands of the emerging energy consumers. Moreover, competition for diminishing oil resources could threaten the US dollar hegemony over world oil transactions.”

According to Ruppert, the US attitude on India and energy is mixed. “Being so energy-poor, India may have no choice but to take what they can get," from Pakistan (which, prior to recent violence, was on course to provide India with access to a proposed Central Asian gas pipeline). At the same time, “it is foreseeable that India . . . may be left to starve, with much of the third world. Or it is possible that a nuclear exchange and/or a bloody war could be spurred on between India and Pakistan strictly for the purpose of population reduction. Such designs are despicable, but not out of the range of possibilities for starving nations.”

Finally, there is also the perennial propaganda imperative on the part of the Bush administration, and its many “allies in the war on terrorism." All perceived dips in mass public perception of the “war on terrorism” have triggered real as well as manufactured-for-media terror events. The Indian government, not surprisingly, is “vowing to battle terrorism," and issuing statements that repeat time-honored anti-terrorist rhetoric. And another shell-shocked populace is “reeling."

A final sickening reality is that Anglo-American-Israeli “war on terror” aggression has (by design as well as unintentionally) fomented and unleashed real terrorism and “blowback” that can no longer be controlled.
In the end, as was the case with 9/11, London 7/7, Bali, and every other post-9/11 “terror” calamity, we are left with another horrific tragedy. But we have also been handed a damning new evidence trail that leads to suspects in high places with means, motive, opportunity -- and geostrategy.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:44:38 AM
Keep in mind that intelligence agencies are no longer working for sovereign nations but for the G7...

The Chip Tatum Chronicles
http://52.thelastoutpost.com/video-3/ciadrugrunning/chiptatum.html
Testimony of Government Drug Running
by David G. Guyatt


Former CIA/DIA deep-cover agent "Chip" Tatum reveals more disturbing details about high-level control of global drug-running and money-laundering operations.

Vietnam Special Forces Air Combat Controller; 25-year CIA deep-cover agent; US Army pilot flying classified missions during the US invasion of Grenada; Iran-Contra pilot flying cocaine shipments labelled as medical supplies; and member of the ultra-secret, international G7-run Pegasus "hit team"...this is the extraordinary story of Gene "Chip" Tatum.

[...]

PEGASUS: ASSASSINATION & NEUTRALISATION

Tatum has gone into considerable additional detail regarding the role of Pegasus as he knew it. He believes Pegasus was established during the Eisenhower years as a secret group inside the CIA to spy on that agency on behalf of the President. At some point - believed to be after the assassination of President Kennedy - Pegasus went AWOL from direct US Government control and came under the direction of an international Board of Directors which Tatum alleges now includes George Bush and Henry Kissinger.

The directors of Pegasus meet once a year in secret conclave following G7 meetings. The group has "representation" from a number of intelligence agencies throughout the world. Included are the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) as well as agents from British, Israeli, Turkish and Danish Intelligence plus "others who performed various functions for Pegasus".7 The mission of Pegasus, Tatum explains, is "to 'align' world leaders and financiers to our [US] policies and standards".

One of Tatum's Pegasus duties included flying "Archer Teams" (four-man hit teams) in his helicopter to their insertion point.8 He states that Enrique Bermudez was assassinated in 1991 by a Pegasus team, adding he "was shot in the back of the head while walking down the street...from about 150 yards". Bermudez, known as "Commander Three Eight Zero" was the senior Contra leader. Tatum received two broken ribs when he came under small-arms fire during the assassination.9

[...]
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: Hawkwind November 27, 2008, 06:51:41 AM
does anyone think they are purposely burning down the taj? anyone watching the live feed?
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:53:20 AM
does anyone think they are purposely burning down the taj? anyone watching the live feed?

looks about as harmless as the fire in building 7.

Oh No!!!!!

Watch out for thermal expansion!
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: Hawkwind November 27, 2008, 06:55:54 AM
looks about as harmless as the fire in building 7.

Oh No!!!!!

Watch out for thermal expansion!

i know, looks like they are trying their hardest to burn it down but its not working.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:57:17 AM
This is nuts...

CNN Live... "Raging fires, armageddon"

MSNBC Live... "Gunshots, people waving for help, desperate situation, fires"

FOX News Live...  "We are now going to cook the turkey and prepare the fixings."
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 06:58:18 AM
i know, looks like they are trying their hardest to burn it down but its not working.

If you look at the videos from the night before there were many more fires, that seems to be the last one.  But who knows.
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: Hawkwind November 27, 2008, 06:59:31 AM
If you look at the videos from the night before there were many more fires, that seems to be the last one.  But who knows.

actually they tried to put it out just then but it seems the fire truck doesnt have any water left!
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 07:01:24 AM
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MUMBAI (AFP) - The young gunmen roaming the corridors of two luxury hotels in Mumbai were shooting wildly, but they knew exactly what sort of guests they intended to take hostage.

"They told everybody to stop and put their hands up and asked if there were any British or Americans," Alex Chamberlain, a British guest at the Oberoi/Trident hotel, said after fleeing his captors via a fire escape.

"My friend said to me, 'don't be a hero, don't say you are British.'"

Gunmen held an unknown number of hostages inside the hotel and at the iconic Taj Mahal hotel overnight and through much of Thursday.

Chamberlain told Indian television that he and other guests had been herded together by the gunmen and taken up to the upper floors of the hotel.

Rakesh Patel, a guest at the Taj, said that "they were after foreigners, because they were asking for British or American passports."

"They came from the restaurant and took us up the stairs," Patel, a British citizen based in Hong Kong , told the NDTV news channel, his face blackened by smoke.

"They were very young, like boys really, wearing jeans and T-shirts," he said, adding that he and another hostage managed to escape on the 18th floor.

One woman staying at the Taj told how she lay on the floor of one room with 25 other petrified guests as gunmen fought special commandos.

"That was, without doubt, the worst experience of my entire life," she told reporters. "It was a very, very painful six hours.

"We could hear the army coming through the hotel. We heard the firing and the blasts. In the end the firemen broke the windows of the room and we climbed down the ladder."

Military units stormed the Taj hotel in the early hours of Thursday morning to confront a handful of gunmen armed with assault rifles and grenades.

In the encounter a huge fire broke out at the top of the hotel, trapping some guests.

US citizen Marilyn Ernsteen, who was with her husband Joseph, said they thought the gunfire was fireworks until hotel staff said they should lock themselves in their rooms and turn off the lights.

"I didn't know what was going on. I was terrified," she told AFP.

Taking only her passport and purse, she and her husband, who are from Chicago, escaped from their fourth-floor room Thursday morning through smoky hallways and out a fire exit.

Australian television actress Brooke Satchwell, a former star in the soap opera Neighbours, hid inside a small cupboard when violence erupted at the Taj.

"As I stepped inside the lobby gunshots started to go off," she said. "It was really terrifying. There were people getting shot in the corridor. There was someone dead outside the bathroom."

The head of the Madrid government and a British member of the European Parliament were inside the Taj when the gunmen attacked but escaped unhurt.

"I saw one man on foot carrying a machine gun-type of weapon -- which I then saw him firing from and I saw people hitting the floor, people right next to me," MEP Sajjad Karim was quoted as saying by the BBC.

An Australian student said his girlfriend was shot and wounded when other gunmen stormed the Cafe Leopold restaurant in Mumbai and opened fire.

David Coker, 23, and his partner Katie Anstee, 24, were on holiday to celebrate graduating from university.

"We had literally just ordered and then it seemed like firecrackers -- people were screaming," he told The Courier-Mail newspaper.

Anstee was shot in the leg, with the bullet breaking her femur and exiting through the front of her thigh, while Coker was grazed by a bullet.

"I turned around and she was crawling out the door because she couldn't walk," he said.

Total staged op
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 07:02:12 AM
More blasts at the Taj, they might be trying to bring it down in another 9/11 shock and awe spectacle for the worldwide audience.

We already know it is an inside job false flag G7 motivated destabilization attack.

Any more harm just exposes how ruthless the NWO/G7 intentions are.
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 07:07:08 AM
Indian commandos battle Islamist gunmen
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Explosion rocks Taj Mahal
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Indian army commandos were on Thursday battling heavily-armed Islamist gunmen who launched co-ordinated attacks against luxury hotels and other targets in Mumbai, killing at least 100 people.

Meanwhile, the Indian navy says its forces are boarding a cargo vessel suspected of ties to the attacks.

At least one Australian is among the dead, two others have been shot and another is unaccounted for after the deadly series of grenade and shooting attacks that has left India's financial capital under siege.

Maharashtra state police chief AN Roy said troops were fighting their way through the city's famous Taj Mahal hotel on Thursday.

The attackers were also still believed to be holding hostages in another hotel and an office-residential complex.

More than 100 people were killed and 300 injured when suspected Islamic militants attacked 10 sites in Mumbai.

Navy spokesman Captain Manohar Nambiar said that the ship being boarded is the MV Alpha, which had recently come to Mumbai from Karachi , Pakistan .

Nambiar says the navy has "located the ship and now we are in the process of boarding it and searching it".

He gave no other details on the ship.

Gunmen from the little-known Deccan Mujahedeen group, who claimed responsibility for the attacks, exchanged fire with commandos and explosions could be heard, AFP photographers and reporters on scene said.

Americans, Israelis and Canadians are thought to be among those trapped in the five-star Taj Mahal and Oberoi Trident hotels and in Nariman House, a residential complex with an old Jewish prayer hall where a rabbi and his family were also being held.

"No negotiations or talks have started with the terrorists," Maharashtra state deputy chief minister RR Patil told reporters.

Television signals to both hotels have been switched off to prevent the hostage takers getting wind of any operations to storm the buildings, he added.

Eight other locations, including Mumbai's main train station, a hospital and a popular restaurant, were hit late Wednesday. The gunmen reportedly landed in Mumbai by boat.

The co-ordinated attacks were blamed on Muslim militants and said to have targeted Westerners.

Police said about 100 people were killed in the precisely targeted assaults by small groups of gunmen armed with AK-47s and grenades that began around 10.30pm (0400 AEDT Thursday).

Up to 300 other people were reported wounded.

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd confirmed the death of one Australian and warned there could be more Australian casualties.

"This is a terrible unfolding tragedy," he said on Thursday night, describing the situation in Mumbai as "chaotic on the ground".

" ... the exact number of casualties remains unclear."

He did not identify the dead Australian, but the Press Trust of India named him as Braid Gilbert Taylor, 49.

The press trust said a Briton and Japanese also died in the attacks, and the Italian Foreign Ministry said an Italian had been killed.

One of the gunmen holed up in the Trident Hotel told the India TV channel by phone that they wanted an end to the persecution of Indian Muslims and the release of all fellow Islamic militants detained in India.

"Muslims in India should not be persecuted. We love this as our country but when our mothers and sisters were being killed, where was everybody?" he said from inside.

Frequent bursts of gunfire in and around the two five-star hotels continued to be heard through Thursday morning, as south Mumbai, including the normally thriving main business hub between the two scenes, was shut down.

The main Bombay Stock Exchange , itself hit by a terror attack in 1993, was also closed, as were shops, schools and businesses.

Army commandos stormed the Taj under the cover of night, apparently leading to the release of some guests inside, with television footage showing people being shepherded out of the building.

Shortly afterwards, the upper floors of the hotel became engulfed in flames.

Fire engines were brought in to rescue trapped guests through the windows of their rooms, where they had sought refuge from the shooting.

Earlier, several men stormed the passenger hall of Mumbai's main Chhatrapati Shivaji railway station, firing indiscriminately and throwing grenades.

Firing was also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai, and three people were reported killed in what police called a "bomb blast" in a taxi in the south-east of the city.

One British guest at the Taj, Rakesh Patel, was among a dozen people herded together by two heavily-armed men and taken to the hotel's upper floors.

"They were very young, like boys really, wearing jeans and T-shirts," he said.

"They said they wanted anyone with British and American passports and then they took us up the stairs. I think they wanted to take us to the roof," he said, adding that he and another hostage managed to escape on the 18th floor.

Indian President Pratibha Patil, in Vietnam on an official visit, described the attack as "the work of those who have no regard for human life".

The United States and Britain led global condemnation, with Washington describing the attacks as "horrific", and US president-elect Barack Obama pledging to work with India to "root out and destroy terrorist networks".

Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the "outrageous" attacks would be met with a "vigorous response".

India has witnessed a wave of coordinated attacks in recent months.

A little-known Islamic group, the Islamic Security Force-Indian Mujahedeen, claimed responsibility for serial blasts last month in India's north-east state of Assam that claimed nearly 80 lives.

Six weeks earlier, the capital New Delhi had been hit by a series of bombs in crowded markets that left more than 20 dead. Those blasts were claimed by a group calling itself the Indian Mujahedeen
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 07:09:24 AM
Daniela Fredrick - Australian photographer on CNN right now.

Happens to be in Mumbai and was in NY on 9/11/2001.

What a coincidence.

Pile on the coincidences in this G7 false flag operation.
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 07:10:13 AM
Some important questions from a comment posted on http://senthil4u.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/terror-attacks-in-mumbai/:

jeff Says:
November 27, 2008 at 5:18 am

Just a few questions:
Why are Muslims being blamed again without any concrete evidence?
Why only the police officers that were investigating Hindu terrorism in India for past few weeks were one of the first ones to be killed?
Why Maharashtra was so open for alleged , “muslim terrorists”, when BJP has such a strong hold on the city of Mumbai that politicians like Raj Thackeray can butcher a birthday cake that had the word “Bhaiyya” (Bhaiyya is a word for Biharis in India) written on it publicly?
Why authorities or media are not looking into other possibilities?
Why are the terrorists keeping hostages and not identify themselves or start negotiations?
Why are the terrorists not killing themselves just as supposed Islamic terrorists have done in the past?
Why are Indian journalists talking about an “encounter” (term for killing suspects in police shoot out) instead of actually an attempt to “arrest” the perpetrators and investigate who they really are and what are their intentions?
For those who target Muslims without answering all the above mentioned questions kindly learn to speculate, investigate, analyze and than come to a conclusion.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 07:11:30 AM
The G7 controls these operations:

'Presidential Secrets'--Former CIA Operative Chip Tatum
83 min -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4217457994226676654
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 07:15:14 AM
Indian Navy is boarding a cargo vessel that seems to be a part of the attack.

What unknown "terrorist" group also has cargo vessels available?

G7 Pegasus Black Ops maybe?
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 07:22:54 AM
Indian Navy is boarding a cargo vessel that seems to be a part of the attack.

What unknown "terrorist" group also has cargo vessels available?

This gets weirder and weirder...
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: chirhonius November 27, 2008, 07:33:39 AM
If you have not heard it yet, go find the Freeman talk about Trauma based mind control.

another name for it is "trauma based psychological conditioning"
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 07:35:47 AM
More Australians may be hurt in Mumbai: Rudd
By Emma Rodgers and wires
November 27, 2008 - 4:43PM
Source: ABC
 
Deadly shootings: Gunmen attacked at a crowded train station in Mumbai.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says he has been advised that there may be more Australians injured in Mumbai's terrorism attacks.

The death toll from the coordinated terrorist attacks has risen to 101 including six foreigners, although no details of their nationalities have been released, and more than 250 people have been injured.

Two Australians - 23-year-old David Coker from Townsville in Queensland and his girlfriend, 24-year-old Kate Anstee from Sydney - have already been confirmed as injured and are being treated in hospital.

Mr Rudd says his thoughts are with the families of those injured and he has condemned the attacks, and says officials in Mumbai are speaking with hotel owners to to establish how many Australians may have been caught up in the events.

He says 317 Australians are registered as living in Mumbai but there could be more.

"The Government is seeking to confirm as a matter of urgency the safety and welfare of Australians who may be affected," he said.

"I am advised that Australian casualties may rise."

Mr Rudd says the attacks are a reminder that the world must remain vigilant against terrorism.

"This cowardly attack on India's stability, peace and democracy reminds us all that international terrorism is far from defeated," he said.

"We have to continued to work closely with our allies and partners around the world to defeat terrorism."

India's Home Affairs Minister Shivraj Patel says it seems the terrorists have kept explosives in some vehicles.

"They are fighting the people who are in the hotels. In Taj I was told that about four or five persons are dead," he said.

"And the police commissioner was telling me that in Oberoi also there are four or five persons. So it seems that there is a big conspiracy."

The Australian Government's National Security Committee has met to discuss the attacks but Mr Rudd says little is known at this stage about the Deccan Mujahideen group who is thought to be behind the attacks.

"But whichever group has perpetrated this attack, they are cowards, absolute cowards and murderers," he said.

Mr Rudd says the Government has offered to send AFP counter-terrorism and forensics staff to India.

We stand ready to assist India in any way it needs right now," he said.

'Stay safe'

Australian travellers are now being advised against going to Mumbai and those already have been told to stay in a safe place and follow the directions of authorities. Garrick Harvison, an export manager for Yarraman Estate wines, is staying at the Oberoi Hotel in Mumbai as part of a New South Wales Government trade delegation.

Mr Harvison says he has been hiding on the floor of his hotel room since seeing the gunmen enter the lobby.

"We started hearing all this banging, which we just thought were fireworks or something," he said.

"I went out, had a look and it was just bang bang bang like a semi-automatic rifle. When we looked over and found that it wasn't fireworks, it was actually people shooting people, I just ran inside my room.

"From that point, for the next sort of five or six hours, I heard gunshots and bomb blasts. Pretty scary experience."

He says was lucky to escape.

Townsville man Dave Coker was at Cafe Leopold in Mumbai when the shooting began.

He suffered minor injuries, but his girlfriend Katie Anstee was shot through the thigh and has a broken femur.

Mr Coker says he had to act quickly to get her out of the restaurant.

"I managed just to get her outside and get her into a sort of lift where I had my sort of hands around her, one hand around her knees and one hand around her shoulders and got her off the street to a taxi and got to hospital as soon as we could," he said.

Australian actress Brooke Satchwell was caught up in the terrorist attack at the Taj hotel.

Satchwell says she still does not feel safe.

"We definitely won't be moving and ironically we only made it out of Bangkok an hour-and-a-half before it shut down," she said

"My nerves are a little frayed at the moment. I haven't slept for the last 24 hours."

Satchwell says one group of Australians escaped the Taj hotel by shredding some drapes, tying them together and sliding down the makeshift rope from the hotel's second floor.

"Real Robinson Crusoe," she said.

On standby

The Royal Darwin Hospital has been placed on standby following the terrorist attacks in Mumbai.

Northern Territory Health Minister Chris Burns says the hospital's National Trauma Unit is awaiting possible evacuations into Darwin.

The trauma centre was used after the Bali bombings in 2002.

'Still holed up'

A militant holed up inside Mumbai's Oberoi Hotel told India TV on Thursday that seven attackers were holding hostages inside the luxury establisment.

"There are seven of us inside hotel Oberoi," the man identified as Sahadullah told India TV.

"We want all Mujahideens held in India released and only after that we will release the people."

"Release all the Mujahideens, and Muslims living in India should not be troubled," he said.

Police said earlier they had shot dead four gunmen and arrested nine suspects. They said 12 police were killed, including Hemant Karkare, the chief of the police anti-terrorist squad in Mumbai.

"The situation is still not under control and we are trying to flush out any more terrorists hiding inside the two hotels," said Vilasrao Deshmukh, Maharashtra state's chief minister.

Mr Deshmukh told a news conference the situation was not yet contained.

A witness said that hours after the assaults began the Taj Hotel was surrounded by police, with fresh firing heard and a floodlight scanning its exterior. A fire in the hotel was still not under control.

- ABC/Reuters

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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 07:40:42 AM
Aust ready to help in wake of Mumbai attacks: PM
November 27, 2008 - 11:10PM
Source: ABC
 
Smoke rises from the Taj Mahal Hotel in Mumbai.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says the Australian Government stands ready to provide whatever assistance is needed to India following the Mumbai terrorist attacks.

One Australian has been killed, and two more have been injured in the attacks which have left at least 101 people dead and more than 300 injured.

The ABC has confirmed that the Australian victim is Sydney businessman Brett Gilbert Taylor from Turramurra in Sydney's north shore, who was with a trade delegation.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is still trying to confirm the safety of all other Australians in the area.

Mr Rudd says while the Indian Government has not yet asked for any help from Australia, it was important to make the offer as early as possible.

"My overwhelming concern was to make sure that that extension of an offer of assistance was made across the board, and early," he said.

"Our friends in India have an enormous challenge on their hands. Any unfolding operation of this nature is massively complex."

Hostage situation

Fresh blasts have been heard from inside two hotels involved in the attacks, the Oberoi and Taj Mahal Palace hotels.

Witnesses say Indian commandos have stormed the buildings in an effort to root out terrorists still holed up there.

Some 200 people remained trapped in the Oberoi, a senior company official has said.

"We still believe that approximately 200 people are trapped inside" the Trident/Oberoi in the south of the city, vice chairman of the Oberoi Group of hotels SS Mukherji told India's NDTV channel in an interview.

Mr Mukherji said about 380 people were in the hotel at the time it was seized.

A number of hostages have been freed from the Taj Hotel, but an unknown number of civilians are still inside.

The police commissioner had been quoted earlier as saying the hostage crisis at the hotel was over, but explosions have since been heard inside.

Indian troops are battling heavily armed gunmen to clear the hotel room by room.

The troops say they have seen many dead bodies but have not found anyone being held hostage.

Throughout the ordeal there has been sporadic fighting between the gunmen and Indian troops and the head of Mumbai's anti-terrorism squad is among the dead.

Officials say they are yet to negotiate with the group which calls itself Deccan Mujahadeen.

One of the gunmen has told local media they want an end to what they say is the persecution of Indian Muslims.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has condemned the attacks.

In an address to the nation, Mr Singh also said that the people behind the attacks were based outside the country.

The president of India's Congress Party, Sonia Gandhi, has condemned the attacks.

"The ghastly terrorist attack in Mumbai is an act of cowardice and deserves the strongest condemnation," she said.

"I urge the people of Mumbai to remain calm and firm in these testing times."

- ABC/AFP/Reuters

More Spin Spin Spin!   ;)
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: Amd304912 November 27, 2008, 07:44:12 AM
This is nuts...

CNN Live... "Raging fires, armageddon"

MSNBC Live... "Gunshots, people waving for help, desperate situation, fires"

FOX News Live...  "We are now going to cook the turkey and prepare the fixings."

fox is first to keep the myth alive, cnn is the complicit idiot. that's messed up.
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 07:55:53 AM
fox is first to keep the myth alive, cnn is the complicit idiot. that's messed up.

CNN will next report it was Ronald McDonald the Clown & the Hambergler
that have turned Muslim terrorist & did it...lol! :D

what a bunch of demented Clowns at CNN... :D :D :D ;D
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: Initiated November 27, 2008, 08:04:02 AM
The G7 controls these operations:

'Presidential Secrets'--Former CIA Operative Chip Tatum
83 min -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4217457994226676654

I have been into the whole Chip Tatum saga for a long time now.
I wonder other than one hard to find unreliable report about him being dead and washed up on shore in Panama, do you have anything solid about his disappearance?
The only thing I find is that Bo Gritz may have reported something to that fact and nothing else. Thanks for any information you may have. If you find it off-topic, please message me.

Cheers!

If it comes to it, I might just email Ted Gunderson myself and see if he would respond since the two videos focusing on Tatum where promoted or made by him.
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: Amd304912 November 27, 2008, 08:05:38 AM
CNN will next report it was Ronald McDonald the Clown & the Hambergler
that have turned Muslim terrorist & did it...lol! :D

what a bunch of demented Clowns at CNN... :D :D :D ;D

(http://www.jihadwatch.org/Ronald.bmp)

http://www.mcspotlight.org/

peoples got him, maybe the story will be out later about it
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 08:20:22 AM

http://www.mcspotlight.org/

peoples got him, maybe the story will be out later about it

ILMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D :D :D

I told you that Clown was evil ;D

that is the Head of CNN they got there I think?

but too many CNN Clown terrorist cells are still active all over the world  "Raging fries & armageddon burgers" ;D


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: Amd304912 November 27, 2008, 08:26:39 AM
ILMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D :D :D

I told you that Clown was evil ;D

that is the Head of CNN they got there I think?

but too many CNN Clown terrorist cells are still active all over the world  "Raging fries & armageddon burgers" ;D


the hamburgler made off with the help of authorities by sea. they phrased it differently due to the boat advertised cnn on the bow.
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: lazarus November 27, 2008, 08:34:20 AM
but too many CNN Clown terrorist cells are still active all over the world 

Ha ha that where they got the idea of "terrorist cells" that they tried to sell us. That is how the NWO operates.
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 08:35:14 AM
the hamburgler made off with the help of authorities by sea. they phrased it differently due to the boat advertised cnn on the bow.
ILMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

that is a good one Amd304912 keep us up dated  ;D ;)
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: dsyd November 27, 2008, 08:36:41 AM
Updated - Mumbai Terror News Archive
http://www.gboltondebbage.co.uk/mumbaiattacks/

I'll be adding any links to the day's news posted in this thread.
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 08:50:41 AM
Ha ha that where they got the idea of "terrorist cells" that they tried to sell us. That is how the NWO operates.

Yeah I agree with you  lazarus....

it's total madness how the NWO operates its media puppets at CNN

as in this case the Clowns at CNN spinning "Raging fries & armageddon burgers"

what worries me more is that sheeple actually believe that lard of BS CNN spin  :(
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 08:58:21 AM
'Boy' attackers shot Aussies in India
November 27, 2008, 3:24 pm
 
An Australian student has told how rampaging gunmen shot his girlfriend during a series of coordinated terrorist strikes in India's financial capital, Mumbai.

Townsville student David Coker, 23, and his Sydney partner Katie Anstee, 24, were eating at Mumbai's Cafe Leopold when the gunmen opened fire, shooting Ms Anstee through the leg.

The bullet broke her femur and exited through the front of her thigh.

Mr Coker, a law graduate and son of Federal Magistrate John Coker, suffered a bullet graze to his leg.

"We had literally just ordered and then it seemed like firecrackers - people were screaming," he told The Courier-Mail.

He said they tried to flee but he quickly realised Ms Anstee was not following him.

"I turned around and she was crawling out the door because she couldn't walk," he said.

"I grabbed her and got out of there as soon as possible. We got into a taxi. No one knew what was going on. We were I think the first people at the Bombay hospital, which is where we are now.

"A bullet has torn a graze in my jeans and taken a groove out of my thigh and I have a few shrapnel marks including one on my left calf muscle."

He said the attackers appeared to be very young.

"They looked just like boys. They are on a rampage - it's full-on."

The couple, who met at Australian National University in Canberra, were on their first day of an overseas trip to celebrate their graduation, and had only been in Mumbai for a few hours.

Ms Anstee's father Chris says David Coker's quick thinking probably saved Katie's life.

The Sydney woman's parents say they plan to fly to the Indian city on Friday to airlift her back to Australia as soon as possible after surgery on a bullet wound to her thigh.

"They put their bags down in the hotel in Mumbai and went out to the Leopold coffee shop, which is apparently listed in Lonely Planet as a cool place to hang out, and they were just sitting there and a whole lot of guys, four or five guys ... just opened fire with machine guns," Mr Anstee told AAP.

"Dave has been very quick-witted and level-headed ... grabbed Kate and picked her up."

Ms Anstee was in intensive care in a stable condition, he said.

"It basically sounds like, as unpleasant as it has been, that it will be fine, and they're going to be airlifted back as soon as she has been allowed to be moved out of the hospital," Mr Anstee said.

"She is actually undergoing surgery, exploratory surgery and stabilisation surgery."

Mr Anstee said he and his wife Candy, from Greenwich in Sydney's north, plan to take the first Qantas flight to India on Friday to be with their daughter.

He praised Mr Coker, who is from Townsville, saying if it wasn't for his quick thinking his daughter may have been killed in the attack.

"The two of them were going on their dream trip of a lifetime. They had just graduated ... they'd worked hard and saved and done all that stuff."

Candy Anstee said she was in a state of shock over what had happened.

"They were going for 11 weeks - to India, then Europe then the US where Katie was at uni for a year," she told Fairfax.

"They were so excited about this trip, saving up for ages. We're in a state of shock."

Ms Anstee had just completed a commerce law degree in Canberra and planned to move back to Sydney after a seven-week holiday, her father said.

Up to 100 people were killed and about 100 more wounded in co-ordinated attacks by gunmen on luxury hotels, restaurants and a train station in Mumbai, Indian media said.

Maharashtra Director General of Police A N Roy was quoted by the Press Trust of India as saying that about 100 people were dead.

The NDTV news channel put the death toll at 100, with 110 injured in the ongoing violence. The IBN Live channel said at least 87 people were dead.

Survivors said the attacks appeared to be aimed at Westerners, with the attackers demanding people reveal their nationalities.

An undetermined number of Western hostages are still being held.

A previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in emails to several media outlets, Indian media reported.

An Australian bride caught up in the terror blasts in Mumbai says the city is in chaos.

Chloe Papazahariakis told the Nine Network that Mumbai was in "total lockdown".

"I've just moved to this beautiful city to marry my husband in four days and I've got about 20 friends here for the wedding in the midst of all this chaos," Ms Papazahariakis said.

"We just can't believe it."

Ms Papazahariakis was speaking from the restaurant where her reception is to be held.

She said a nearby hospital had been bombed by terrorists and the death toll had reached 75.

"They are targeting every suburb in this city but the most tragic thing is that for the first time ever they are targeting big time foreigners and five star hotels," she said.

"There have been a lot of bombs in India and they normally target marketplaces and the poorer society but where we are at the Taj Mahal Hotel, an historical hotel, they have eight foreign hostages.

"They've got hand grenades and police are very worried they are suicide bombers.

"They are on a rampage - it's full-on and they are not stopping."

Meanwhile, father-of-the-bride Nick Papazahariakis had a lucky escape after he dined at the groom's family restaurant in central Mumbai instead of a popular tourist spot where explosions have been heard.

Speaking from the restaurant with nine other Australians about 300 metres from a hotel where hostages are being held, he said friends had suggested the alternative.

"We've been very busy organising things for the wedding and some of our friends... they said we might as well go to this other restaurant, Indian restaurant with some great food, instead of going to a popular tourist restaurant and that was the decision," he told Sky News.

He said the city is under siege and the diners are unable to move from the restaurant.

"We're very close to where everything is happening," he said.

"They killed somebody around 15 metres from where we are.

"We can't go anywhere because the roads are all closed, so we're waiting and listening to news...

"You don't know what to believe at the moment, who is on which side," he said.

Mr Papazahariakis' daughter's wedding is scheduled for December 3 and 22 Australians have been invited to the official ceremony.

Another Australian, who is just 100 metres from the Taj Mahal Hotel where terrorists have taken hostages, said the city of 19 million people had come to a standstill.

Bernard Carpenter told ABC Radio that he had been at a restaurant just moments before a gunfight broke out.

"I've been back there and there is blood everywhere," he said.

"Unknown people have taken over seven sites, including three luxury hotels and two hospitals which have many of the victims in there."

Mr Carpenter said the terrorists had also attacked the train station and the domestic airport.

"It seems as though that what is one of Asia's great and most powerful cities, has come almost to a standstill," he said.

Mr Carpenter said he was remaining indoors because he had heard the terrorists were targeting British and American nationals.

"I'm a tall white Westerner and these people are after people like me," he said.

The federal government is seeking to confirm the safety and welfare of Australians who may have been affected by the attacks.

"Australians should avoid travel to Mumbai at this time," the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said in an advisory issued on Thursday.

"Australians in Mumbai should remain in a safe location and follow the advice of local authorities."

People worried about the safety of friends and relatives in Mumbai should contact the department on 1300 555 135.

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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 09:03:04 AM
Got about 4 hours of CNN reporting on this lastnight, will upload later.

I wonder what this is all a smokescreen for anyway...
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 09:04:22 AM
India halts international cricket after Mumbai attacks
November 27, 2008, 11:42 pm
 
NEW DELHI (AFP) - India's cricket chiefs were Thursday forced to abandon England's one-day series and postpone the cash-rich Twenty20 Champions League following the deadly Mumbai attacks.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) accepted England's request to cancel the last two matches of the seven-game series, as talks began to save next month's two Test matches.

The games in Guwahati on Saturday and New Delhi on December 2 held only academic interest with India having already taken a 5-0 lead over Kevin Pietersen's men.

"England's request to cut short the one-day series in light of the disturbing events in Mumbai has been accepted," BCCI secretary N. Srinivasan said in a statement.

"The last two one-dayers have been called off as a result."

Srinivasan was holding talks with officials of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) in the eastern city of Bhubaneswar over the fate of the Test series due to start in Ahmedabad on December 11.

The second Test was due to be played from December 19 in Mumbai, where at least 100 people were killed overnight in coordinated militant attacks.

Hugh Morris, the ECB's managing director of England cricket, said discussions were being held to see if the rest of the tour could take place even as the players were confined to their hotel in Bhubaneswar.

"The safety and security of the England team is of the utmost importance to the ECB," Morris said in a statement after expressing his and the team's sympathies with the victims of the attacks and their families.

"We have reviewed all our security arrangements in the light of these attacks and will be taking all necessary steps to ensure the safety and security of the team.

"We are urgently seeking information from expert sources regarding last night's attacks and will continue to hold further discussions with our colleagues from the BCCI over the next 24 hours," he said.

Officials were considering shifting the Tests from Ahmedabad and Mumbai to other cities in a bid to save the series, BCCI sources told AFP.

England's High Performance squad, which is currently training in Bangalore, was awaiting guidance from the British government on the future of its own tour.

The squad, which includes former captain Michael Vaughan and current Test stars Monty Panesar and Andrew Strauss, was scheduled to reach Mumbai on December 3 to play a practice game.

The attacks also forced hosts India to postpone next month's inaugural Twenty20 Champions League indefinitely over security fears.

The six-million dollar event, featuring the top eight Twenty20 domestic teams from Australia, South Africa , India, England and Pakistan , was due to be held from December 3-10 in Mumbai, Chennai and Bangalore.

"It was agreed that in the best interests of all concerned, the inaugural edition of the Champions League should be postponed," League chairman Lalit Modi said in a statement.

Modi did not say when the tournament would be played.

The teams taking part were Victoria and Western Australia (Australia), Dolphins and Titans ( South Africa ), Chennai Super Kings and Rajasthan Royals (India), Middlesex (England) and Sialkot Stallions ( Pakistan ).

The cancellation of England's tour comes as the Indian government is debating whether to send a cricket team to strife-torn Pakistan in January for a Test and one-day series.

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: Triadtropz November 27, 2008, 09:12:24 AM
Got about 4 hours of CNN reporting on this lastnight, will upload later.

I wonder what this is all a smokescreen for anyway...

I think it was supposed to be a worldwide jihad..but someone stopped most of it..happy thanksgiving..
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 09:15:02 AM
This is nuts...

CNN Live... "Raging fires, armageddon"

MSNBC Live... "Gunshots, people waving for help, desperate situation, fires"

FOX News Live...  "We are now going to cook the turkey and prepare the fixings."

Yeah, noticed that.  I'm surprised too, that CNN's regulars haven't been called back in to cover this.

I'm thinking this may be just what it is but CNN is trying to play it up as much as possible.  Fox doesn't want to have people distracted from NFL games today.

As for bringing down the Taj... If TPTB wanted it brought down, it would be down.  Too many witnesses left alive for a 100% NWO false flag job.  We'll know when the next NWO inside job is & the death toll won't be in the 100's.

Just my personal opinion, people.  Don't jump on me because I'm not convinced this was pulled off by the usual NWO suspects.

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: RickT November 27, 2008, 09:32:41 AM
I don't get why CNN's not reporting on  Nariman House though.  The live feeds from IBN have been talking about it since last night:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Fierce_gunbattle_on_at_Nariman_House_Trident_Oberoi/articleshow/3764684.cms

IBN keeps talking about the final assault on Nariman House. 
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: mr anderson November 27, 2008, 09:59:08 AM
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=V6uuCozoE_0 - Australian woman says "10 times worse than 9/11 ------ Total war".

All I can think of is that calm guy on 9/11 describing the collapse of the towers. Maybe a stretch but it seems so blown out of proportion. Yes it's a big deal but 100-200+ dead isn't a 9/11...
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: Matt Hatter November 27, 2008, 10:11:56 AM
My Fiance and I were watching this last night on the BBC. So much media hype! This must be a false flag! When the US is declaring military support, and being blamed on pakistan!?

As soon as the invasion of pakistan starts I can tell all my friends 'told ya so'
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 10:12:38 AM
Yeah, noticed that.  I'm surprised too, that CNN's regulars haven't been called back in to cover this.

I'm thinking this may be just what it is but CNN is trying to play it up as much as possible.  Fox doesn't want to have people distracted from NFL games today.

As for bringing down the Taj... If TPTB wanted it brought down, it would be down.  Too many witnesses left alive for a 100% NWO false flag job.  We'll know when the next NWO inside job is & the death toll won't be in the 100's.

Just my personal opinion, people.  Don't jump on me because I'm not convinced this was pulled off by the usual NWO suspects.



Yeah... sure looks that way, but notice how the western Governments all condemn these attacks & play the 9/11 card, India is a (friend)... right,
then it's these Islamic terrorists,
looks to me like the India branch of the NWO screwed it up big time Bollywood style as they do ;)

It's just too much like an India Bollywood style  9/11  of a sort if you look into it...don't you think?

one must ask how did these little boys get AK riffles past the India military & police that patrol that area hard each day as I was informed that the India military & police so offten do  ;)


'Boy' attackers shot Aussies in India
November 27, 2008, 3:24 pm

He said the attackers appeared to be very young.
"They looked just like boys. They are on a rampage - it's full-on."

he also said that he looked at the boy in the face & the boy didn't shot him as reported on live news in Australia

like I said Bollywood movie India style,

India branch NWO staged op indeed, what els could it be, think about it
I have no doubts the proof is adding up IMPO ;)
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: Doctor No NWO November 27, 2008, 10:21:54 AM
My Fiance and I were watching this last night on the BBC. So much media hype! This must be a false flag! When the US is declaring military support, and being blamed on pakistan!?

As soon as the invasion of pakistan starts I can tell all my friends 'told ya so'

I agree...
& it sure looks like its headed that way...
the NWO media hype is over the top on this Bollywood style 9/11, just like it was before they invaded IRAQ
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 10:41:58 AM
I agree...
& it sure looks like its headed that way...
the NWO media hype is over the top on this Bollywood style 9/11, just like it was before they invaded IRAQ

OK... if indeed this is an NWO false flag, then it will lead to a much larger response by the world as a whole.  In all honesty, I don't see the average person outside of India really considering this big enough (or close enough) to be consideres a catalyzing event.  Unless, however, this is just the beginning of a series of similar events which spreads to all mnajor world capitals.   

Let's face it, westerners don't care about dead people from that region of the world.  Of the dead, 6 are apparently westerners.  For it to be considered a huge events warrenting war on Pakistan, that number would have to be 600 (mostly white) people.  Images of bleeding blonde children would be a nice touch for a non-western NWO false flag.

That support is being expressed by world leaders is typical of any type of situation... man made or natural disaster.
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: David Rothscum November 27, 2008, 10:44:27 AM
After coming home I turned on the TV and found out that this is still going on to my shock. Meanwhile many more are now blaming Pakistan for this attack. Will this be used to involve India in destroying Pakistan?
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 10:44:34 AM
This has FALSE FLAG written all over it. Indian PM: Mumbai attackers based outside country
http://afterarmageddon7.blogspot.com/2008/11/indian-pm-mumbai-attackers-based.html
11.27.2008

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh says the perpetrators of coordinated attacks on the financial capital Mumbai were likely based outside the country.

Mr. Singh addressed the nation Thursday, a day after heavily armed men attacked 10 sites in the city, killing about 100 people and wounding about 300. Without specifying another nation, he said he will tell "neighbors" that the use of their territory for launching terrorist attacks will not be tolerated.

As Mr. Singh was speaking, Indian security forces were moving through two luxury hotels - The Taj Mahal Palace and the Oberoi-Trident - in an attempt to free hostages and find remaining gunmen. Gunfire and explosions were heard from the hotels, and another fire broke out at the Taj after an earlier blaze caused serious damage to the historic building.

Police were also trying to resolve a standoff at a building belonging to a Jewish group.

Wednesday night, groups of assailants with machine guns and grenades attacked several locations popular with foreigners and business people, including hotels and train stations.

Witnesses said gunmen were looking for U.S. and British citizens.

Local media report a previously unknown militant group, called the Deccan Mujahideen, has claimed responsibility. The term Mujahideen is associated with Islamist extremists.

Islamic militants have been blamed for past bombing attacks.

Among those reported killed in the attacks were Mumbai's anti-terror chief, Hemant Karkare, and at least 11 policeman.

Police say at least four gunmen have been killed and nine arrested, but it is not clear where these encounters occurred.
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: DireWolf November 27, 2008, 10:44:52 AM
Of course this is a false flag event, but is it also a diversion for something going on which is even more nefarious?
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 10:46:23 AM
Now they're saying they've found a cell phone believed to be owned by one of the terrorists.
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 10:47:43 AM
looks about as harmless as the fire in building 7.

Oh No!!!!!

Watch out for thermal expansion!

 :D
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 10:48:26 AM
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081127/capt.9fc87a28a5a240f192ccc85c42b979d9.india_shooting_sab802.jpg?x=326&y=345&q=85&sig=lrCQh3slnhAJzG4HDRA_Hg--)

Sure have been a lot of photos of this guy. You'd think someone would be able to take a shot...
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: Optimus November 27, 2008, 10:51:42 AM
Mumbai attackers from Pakistan--general
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20081127-174783/Mumbai-attackers-from-Pakistan--general
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 23:39:00 11/27/2008


MUMBAI -- Militants who staged multiple attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai, killing at least 100 people and injuring hundreds more, came from Pakistan, a senior military official said Thursday.

"They are from across the border and perhaps from Faridkot, Pakistan. They tried to pretend that they were from Hyderabad," Major General R.K. Hooda, leading the military operation to flush out the extremists, told reporters.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 10:51:45 AM
After coming home I turned on the TV and found out that this is still going on to my shock. Meanwhile many more are now blaming Pakistan for this attack. Will this be used to involve India in destroying Pakistan?

US/UK must be monitoring all cross border calls.

G7 may do another false flag in Pakistan to keep them against each other.

It is Iraq/Iran all over again and we are funding/sabatoging both sides.

Hopefully they will see it and work against the G7 intentions of their heinous actions.

G7 did the attack at the Marriott in Pakistan to take out the Pakistani leadership.

We are f-ing with two nuke sovereign states, this is not good.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081127/capt.9fc87a28a5a240f192ccc85c42b979d9.india_shooting_sab802.jpg?x=326&y=345&q=85&sig=lrCQh3slnhAJzG4HDRA_Hg--)

Sure have been a lolt of photos of this guy. You'd think someone would be able to take shot...

He is the lone gunman.

He will be the patsy for the entire thing.

He is the Mohammed Atta of the 17 separate attacks.

This is the only face you will get to see.

All of the G7 Pegasus assassins will be smuggled out and this will be the guy left.

They may do something spectacular with him to shock and awe us and blame only him for the entire thing.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 10:57:42 AM
India has been given unprecedented nuke tech from US to use as a continual threat to China.

If we keep doing these false flags in the region, China will start reacting.

This is a very dangerous chessgame, one only played by the likes of kissinger and brzezinski.

Rothschild/Rockefeller fund the chessmatches, but Kiss/Brz play the games.
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: Amd304912 November 27, 2008, 10:59:17 AM
He is the lone gunman.

He will be the patsy for the entire thing.

He is the Mohammed Atta of the 17 separate attacks.

This is the only face you will get to see.

All of the G7 Pegasus assassins will be smuggled out and this will be the guy left.

They may do something spectacular with him to shock and awe us and blame only him for the entire thing.

he is the spiderman or antihero hero.
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 10:59:27 AM
They are playing a spooky Enya song as they play some footage on IBN. I expect to see the closing credits soon
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: pac522 November 27, 2008, 11:00:46 AM
(http://www.jihadwatch.org/Ronald.bmp)

http://www.mcspotlight.org/

peoples got him, maybe the story will be out later about it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ov9z4q8S6k
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:07:28 AM
anymore info about the jewish family?

has that story stopped yet?

hopefully-it seemed like BS
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: Optimus November 27, 2008, 11:08:34 AM
Looks like the Indian PM is practically declaring war on Pakistan.

Indian PM vows action on attacks/VİDEO
India's Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has vowed to take "whatever measures are necessary" to track down those responsible for the Mumbai attacks.
http://www.haber27.com/news_detail.php?id=16576
27 Kasım 2008 Perşembe 17:35
 
He said the perpetrators were based "outside the country" and India would not tolerate "neighbours" who provide a haven to militants targeting it.

Gunmen targeted at least seven sites in Mumbai late on Wednesday, killing at least 101 people and injuring 300.

Flames were seen rising from the roof of one hotel where people were trapped.

Elite commandos had begun an operation to free hostages at the hotel, the Oberoi-Trident, where dozens of people are said to remain trapped or held hostage, reports said.

The perpetrators were "based outside the country", he said, adding that they "had come with single-minded determination to create havoc in the commercial capital of the country".

India has complained in the past that attacks on its soil have been carried out by groups based in Pakistan, although relations between the two countries have improved in recent years and Pakistani leaders were swift to condemn the latest attacks.

Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, in New Delhi for talks, said no-one should be blamed until investigations were finished.

"Our experience in the past tells us that we should not jump to conclusions," he told Dawn television.

Amid international condemnation of the attacks, US President George W Bush telephoned Mr Singh to offer his condolences and support.

Claim of responsibility

In the attacks late on Wednesday night gunmen, using grenades and automatic weapons, targeted at least seven sites including the city's main commuter train station, a hospital and a restaurant popular with tourists.

Police say 14 police officers, 81 Indian nationals and six foreigners have been killed.

Four suspected terrorists have also been killed and nine arrested, they add.

State police chief AN Roy earlier told local television that hostages held by the gunmen at the Taj Mahal Palace hotel - one of Mumbai's most famous hotels - had been freed.

People escaping from the Taj Mahal Palace hotel

Witnesses said civilians could be seen running from the hotel, some with suitcases. Ambulances were also reported to be arriving.

But the BBC's Mark Dummett, outside the Taj Mahal, says the situation has since become very confused, with the sounds of explosions and gunfire being heard from within the hotel, suggesting the siege is not yet over.

Earlier in the day, Indian commandos had been seen entering the hotels but there was little detail on the operation.

Meanwhile, the bosses of the Oberoi-Trident hotel say some 200 guests may still trapped in their rooms.

Earlier eyewitness reports from the hotels suggested the attackers were singling out British and American passport holders.

If the reports are true, our security correspondent Frank Gardner says it implies an Islamist motive - attacks inspired or co-ordinated by al-Qaeda.

A claim of responsibility has been made by a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen. Our correspondent says it could be a hoax or assumed name for another group.

A home ministry official said between 20 and 30 people at the hotel might still be hostages, while the owners said some 200 people were trapped inside.


See detailed map of the area
Police earlier said hostages had been freed from another luxury hotel, the Taj Mahal Palace, but explosions and gunfire were still being heard by witnesses outside.

A stand-off continues at a Jewish centre, where an Israeli rabbi and his family are believed to have been taken hostage.

One militant reportedly phoned local TV from the centre offering to negotiate over the release of hostages.

In other developments:

The Indian navy said it was searching ships off the west coast following reports that gunmen had arrived in Mumbai by boat
The UK Foreign Office said a British national had died; a German, a Japanese man and an Italian are also among the dead
The Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Toiba, which has been blamed for past bombings in India, denied any role in the attacks
In a televised address, Mr Singh said the government "will take whatever measures are necessary to ensure the safety and security of our citizens".

He described the attacks as "well-planned and well-orchestrated... intended to create a sense of panic by choosing high profile targets and indiscriminately killing foreigners"

 
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 11:09:50 AM
Just a reminder:

Anyone watching live online feeds can record the live video if you have the latest Realplayer.
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:10:19 AM
Imagine how much better the situation would have been if just one person was packing a pistol in the hotel lobby. He wouldn't be able to fend off all the terrorists, but neither would the terrorists be able to just stand there shooting people and barking orders. They'd have to take some cover, which would at least buy some time for the would-be hostages to get out, and for the police to show up. And then imagine if 2, 3, or 4 or more people were packing...this may not have happened at all, or at least far fewer then 100 people would be dead. This just makes me want to carry constantly
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:10:39 AM
FROM 2005...

India to push for place at G7
http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=41606
Reuters
Posted online: Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 1303 hours IST
Updated: Saturday, February 05, 2005 at 1610 hours IST

London, February 5: Finance chiefs from the biggest developing economies will on Saturday push the Group of Seven (G7) industrialised nations for a seat at the high table of global economic making.

Finance Ministers from India, Brazil and South Africa have been invited to a breakfast meeting G7 ministers in London.

The invitations are an acknowledgement of a shift in the world economic order and the constraints confronting the G7.

"I think the G7 recognises that there are important economies outside the G7 which are likely to emerge as economic powerhouses in the next 10 to 20 years," Indian Finance Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram told Reuters.

The G7 -- the United States, Japan, Germany, Italy, France, Britain and Canada -- accounts for 14 percent of the world's population but two-thirds of its wealth.

Brazilian Finance Minister Antonio Palocci on Friday said Brazil, India and China will ask the G7 finance ministers to include them as permanent participants in the meetings on the international economy, not merely as special guests.

Growing fiscal strain pressure in industrialised nations from ageing populations and failure to address global imbalances has led to calls to expand or overhaul the elite club of rich nations.

METEORIC RISE

The meteoric rise of China in the past two decades as an economic and financial behemoth has changed the face of global manufacturing and its cheap exports created massive current account deficits in many western nations, particularly the United States.

China has come under heavy US pressure to revalue the yuan as US manufacturers say the Chinese currency is artificially cheap and this saps US jobs and exports.

China will make its second appearance at the G7 meeting.

Analysts say the growing economic influence of Brazil, Russia, India and China, dubbed as BRICs by investment bank Goldman Sachs, reflect current global economic realities.

Chidambaram said India will articulate the problems facing the G20 group of countries at the meeting.

"We would articulate the G20's point of view. G20 wants market access, wants developed countries to abide by their obligations under the WTO."

The G20 accounts for around two-thirds of world population and 90 percent of world gross domestic product.

The Indian finance minister also added that the G20 wants a discussion on capital flows, particularly hedge funds.

"These are some of the issues that we will try to highlight at the discussions," he said.

Developing nations complain that agricultural subsidies doled out by rich nations and their protectionist measures shut out exports from poor nations.

Negotiations for a global trade deal has hit a stumbling block over the central problem of farm trade reform and the future of subsidies given by rich nations.

Deep differences persist on the issue between the North and South, and between the United States and the European Union.
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 11:12:00 AM
anymore info about the jewish family?

has that story stopped yet?

hopefully-it seemed like BS

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/nsg-preparing-to-launch-attack-on-nariman-house/79156-3-1.html

NSG preparing to launch attack on Nariman House
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: David Rothscum November 27, 2008, 11:14:19 AM
Rothschild/Rockefeller fund the chessmatches, but Kiss/Brz play the games.
Well said.

Here's an article about the geopolitical consequences of the Mumbai attacks. It makes sense, India will have to put the blame on outsiders, because otherwise this makes the government look very incapable of it's job. After 2002 a terror attack almost caused nuclear war, but the US apparently intervened and made a deal that had Pakistan promise it would do more to fight terrorism, but the US has been claiming for months now it doesn't do enough so the Indian government can't tell their likely vengeful people that it forces Pakistan to do more to stop terrorism.

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/20081126_red_alert
Summary

If the Nov. 26 attacks in Mumbai were carried out by Islamist militants as it appears, the Indian government will have little choice, politically speaking, but to blame them on Pakistan. That will in turn spark a crisis between the two nuclear rivals that will draw the United States into the fray.

Analysis

At this point the situation on the ground in Mumbai remains unclear following the militant attacks of Nov. 26. But in order to understand the geopolitical significance of what is going on, it is necessary to begin looking beyond this event at what will follow. Though the situation is still in motion, the likely consequences of the attack are less murky.

We will begin by assuming that the attackers are Islamist militant groups operating in India, possibly with some level of outside support from Pakistan. We can also see quite clearly that this was a carefully planned, well-executed attack.

Given this, the Indian government has two choices. First, it can simply say that the perpetrators are a domestic group. In that case, it will be held accountable for a failure of enormous proportions in security and law enforcement. It will be charged with being unable to protect the public. On the other hand, it can link the attack to an outside power: Pakistan. In that case it can hold a nation-state responsible for the attack, and can use the crisis atmosphere to strengthen the government’s internal position by invoking nationalism. Politically this is a much preferable outcome for the Indian government, and so it is the most likely course of action. This is not to say that there are no outside powers involved — simply that, regardless of the ground truth, the Indian government will claim there were.

That, in turn, will plunge India and Pakistan into the worst crisis they have had since 2002. If the Pakistanis are understood to be responsible for the attack, then the Indians must hold them responsible, and that means they will have to take action in retaliation — otherwise, the Indian government’s domestic credibility will plunge. The shape of the crisis, then, will consist of demands that the Pakistanis take immediate steps to suppress Islamist radicals across the board, but particularly in Kashmir. New Delhi will demand that this action be immediate and public. This demand will come parallel to U.S. demands for the same actions, and threats by incoming U.S. President Barack Obama to force greater cooperation from Pakistan.

If that happens, Pakistan will find itself in a nutcracker. On the one side, the Indians will be threatening action — deliberately vague but menacing — along with the Americans. This will be even more intense if it turns out, as currently seems likely, that Americans and Europeans were being held hostage (or worse) in the two hotels that were attacked. If the attacks are traced to Pakistan, American demands will escalate well in advance of inauguration day.

There is a precedent for this. In 2002 there was an attack on the Indian parliament in Mumbai by Islamist militants linked to Pakistan. A near-nuclear confrontation took place between India and Pakistan, in which the United States brokered a stand-down in return for intensified Pakistani pressure on the Islamists. The crisis helped redefine the Pakistani position on Islamist radicals in Pakistan.

In the current iteration, the demands will be even more intense. The Indians and Americans will have a joint interest in forcing the Pakistani government to act decisively and immediately. The Pakistani government has warned that such pressure could destabilize Pakistan. The Indians will not be in a position to moderate their position, and the Americans will see the situation as an opportunity to extract major concessions. Thus the crisis will directly intersect U.S. and NATO operations in Afghanistan.

It is not clear the degree to which the Pakistani government can control the situation. But the Indians will have no choice but to be assertive, and the United States will move along the same line. Whether it is the current government in India that reacts, or one that succeeds doesn’t matter. Either way, India is under enormous pressure to respond. Therefore the events point to a serious crisis not simply between Pakistan and India, but within Pakistan as well, with the government caught between foreign powers and domestic realities. Given the circumstances, massive destabilization is possible — never a good thing with a nuclear power.

This is thinking far ahead of the curve, and is based on an assumption of the truth of something we don’t know for certain yet, which is that the attackers were Muslims and that the Pakistanis will not be able to demonstrate categorically that they weren’t involved. Since we suspect they were Muslims, and since we doubt the Pakistanis can be categorical and convincing enough to thwart Indian demands, we suspect that we will be deep into a crisis within the next few days, very shortly after the situation on the ground clarifies itself.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:17:42 AM
India was invited to the last annual G7/8 meeting, Pakistan was not.

India may have sold out its own people to get membership.

If India...

-Allows US retaliation of Pakistan (under their agreement).

-Changes its monetary system

-Gets accepted into G7/8

Then the leadership in India approved this G7 false flag operation.
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34th G8 summit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/34th_G8_summit
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 34th G8 Summit

Summit details
Host country    Japan
Dates   July 7 – July 9, 2008

 

Although Japan would host the G8 summit without mishap, Fukuda himself earned little or no credit from ordinary Japanese; and when he resigned as Japan's Prime Minister on September 1st, he became the first of the G8 leaders to leave office.[20]
 Canada Stephen Harper, Prime Minister.[21]
 France Nicolas Sarkozy, President.[22]
 Germany Angela Merkel, Chancellor.[23]
 Italy Silvio Berlusconi, Prime Minister.[24]
 Japan Yasuo Fukuda, Prime Minister.[17]
 Russia Dmitry Medvedev, President.[25]
 United Kingdom Gordon Brown, Prime Minister.
 United States George W. Bush, President.[26]

[edit]
Invited leaders (partial participation)

A number of national leaders were invited to attend the summit and to participate in some, but not all, G8 summit activities.

[edit]
G8+5
 
Family photo of the G8+G5

The G8 plus the five largest emerging economies has come to be known as G8+5.
 Brazil Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, President.[27]
 China Hu Jintao, President.[28]
 India Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister.[29]
 Mexico Felipe Calderón, President.[30]
 South Africa Thabo Mbeki, President.[31]

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Other leaders
 Algeria Abdelaziz Bouteflika, President.[32]
 Australia Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister.[33]
 Ethiopia Meles Zenawi, Prime Minister.[34]
 Ghana John Agyekum Kufuor, President.[35]
 Indonesia Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, President.[36]
 Nigeria Umaru Yar'Adua, President.[37]
 Senegal Abdoulaye Wade, President.[38]
 South Korea Lee Myung-bak, President.[39]
 Tanzania Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete, President.[40]
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:24:31 AM
The bloodletting is a sacrificial rite to be in the decisionmaking process of the new financial order and India may have sold out its own people for this luciferian honor.

Gandhi is rolling in his grave.

The entire country will be a Rockefeller/Rothschild pawn just as it was prior to Gandhi granting them independence.

Just as we were before the federal reserve.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 11:26:20 AM
Anyone notice the hole pegasus story makes it sound like the splinter cell book series was based on it  ::)
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:27:54 AM
Indian beatnik on IBN now saying they need a Homeland Security chief now

man, this is just like a recipe...
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:27:56 AM
Now they're saying they've found a cell phone believed to be owned by one of the terrorists.

You will probably find George Bush's cellphone number in it along with Gordon Brown, Sarkozy, and Netanyahu.

But they will say the cellphone was purchased in Pakistan.
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: Optimus November 27, 2008, 11:29:46 AM
There was some guy on IBN calling for the creation of a homeland security department just like the US has.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:30:02 AM
Anyone notice the hole pegasus story makes it sound like the splinter cell book series was based on it  ::)

Project pegasus has been going on since the 1980's before that Tatum was only doing work on behalf of the US.

After, Bush/Reagan, the G7 controlled Pegasus ops/worldwide assassinations/false flags.
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 11:30:22 AM
You will probably find George Bush's cellphone number in it along with Gordon Brown, Sarkozy, and Netanyahu.



LMAO!  
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Now a boat has been found with a beheaded body.
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:30:49 AM
IBN saying they found the fishing trowler that they think was used to transport the terrorists. They said the name of the owner. It was "Amman" something. They said it had all sorts of GPS and satellite equipment. I remember a few hours ago them saying that they were looking for a boat.
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 11:31:24 AM
There was some guy on IBN calling for the creation of a homeland security department just like the US has.

Yeah, in "every city".
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:33:24 AM
A few minutes ago they also had some Indian politician on saying that the political parties need to be united and send a strong message to the terrorists. Says this is is not a time for party politics.

it's groundhog day
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: David Rothscum November 27, 2008, 11:33:49 AM
Looks like the Indian PM is practically declaring war on Pakistan.
[...]
He's basically saying he's going to bomb the hell out of Pakistan without saying it.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:34:53 AM
Anyone noticing that the shit they are finding are like the puzzle pieces left after 9/11...

Atta's passport

minor handheld plane wreckage

suitcase with last will/quran

LET THE BS COVER UP FRAMING OF PAKISTAN BEGIN!
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:37:03 AM
IBN just said the terrorists brought a huge amount of dried fruit. Did I hear that right?
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 11:39:06 AM
They're basically just repeating the same thing over and over and making it difficult to know what's live and what's taped.

Taj Hotel GM's wife and 2 kids are dead,
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:39:31 AM
IBN says all terrorists at the Taj Hotel are dead. Makes me wonder what these guys were thinking? Obviously they wouldn't be able to get away. They would most likely be killed, possibly jailed for the rest of their lives. Makes no sense to do something like this, yet they are able to pull off a highly sophisticated, coordinated attack that keeps police and the army at bay for 24 hours.

General Manager of the Taj and his family are dead
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:39:46 AM
US incursions into Pakistan were to create terrorist, not defeat them!

’US backing terror networks in Pakistan’
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=65701&sectionid=351020401
Press TV
August 5, 2008


Pakistan has accused the US of backing militancy within the country, saying this goes against the spirit of so-called war on terror.

Pakistani the News quoted official sources as saying on Tuesday that strong evidence of American acquiescence to terrorism inside Pakistan was outlined by President Pervez Musharraf, Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani and Director General Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt. Gen. Nadeem Taj in their separate meetings with US Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Michael Mullen and CIA Deputy Director Stephen R Kappes on July 12 in Rawalpindi.

Pakistani officials with direct knowledge of the meetings said the Americans were not interested in disrupting the Kabul-based fountainhead of terrorism in Baluchistan nor do they want to allocate the marvelous predator resource to neutralize the kingpin of suicide bombings against the Pakistani military establishment now hiding near the Pak-Afghan border.

The top US military commander were also asked why the CIA-run predator did not swing into action when they were provided the exact location of Baitullah Mehsud, the chief of militants and mastermind of almost every suicide operation against the Army and the ISI since June 2006.

One such precise piece of information was made available to the CIA on May 24 when Mehsud drove to a remote South Waziristan mountain post to address the press and returned back to his safe abode. The United States military has the capacity to direct a missile to a precise location at very short notice as it has done close to 20 times in the last few years to hit al-Qaeda targets inside Pakistan.

“We wanted to know when our American friends would get interested in tracking down the terrorists responsible for hundreds of suicide bombings in Pakistan and those playing havoc with our natural resources in Baluchistan,” an official described the Pakistani mood during the meetings.

Pakistani official have long been intrigued by the presence of highly encrypted communications gear with Mehsud. This communication gear enables him to collect real-time information on Pakistani troops’ movement from an unidentified foreign source without being intercepted by Pakistani intelligence, sources said.

Admiral Mullen and the CIA official were in Pakistan on an unannounced visit to show what the US media claimed was evidence of the ISI’s ties to the Taliban militants and the alleged involvement of Pakistani agents in the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul.

A former official with Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence Khalid Khawaja accused the US in an exclusive interview with the Press TV that the Americans had planted the bomb in the Indian Embassy in Kabul to widen the rift between Indians and Pakistanis.

The report comes a day after Musharraf’s warning against the US conspiracies toward Pakistan.

Pakistani political analysts say that the current “trust deficit” between the Pakistani and US security establishment is serious enough to lead to a collapse.
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 11:44:36 AM
Sane I know you're a mod but the large articles can be just linked to.  Having such large articles (especially old news) makes it hard to keep a flow of conversation going.
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:45:29 AM
someone check the script...what happens next? This is just like 9/11 we should be able to predict future events fairly accurately.

I suppose after they kill the remaining terrorists we'll see several shots of the hotels looped from the news. Then news will repeat over and over who did this and how. Then some leader, PM or someone, will speak publicly from one of the sites saying that the Indian people are united against the terror threat. Then in a week or so they will pass some law to spy on everyone and take whatever action they deem necessary to protect the people. Then they announce military action in Pakistan...

Am I close?
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: Optimus November 27, 2008, 11:46:53 AM
Anyone noticing that the shit they are finding are like the puzzle pieces left after 9/11...

Atta's passport

minor handheld plane wreckage

suitcase with last will/quran

LET THE BS COVER UP FRAMING OF PAKISTAN BEGIN!

Yep, and PM Singh is reading from the same playbook that bush did after 911.
We will track down the 'terrorist' no matter where they are in the world.
We will not tolerate countries that provide safe haven to 'terrorists', namely Pakistan.
Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's the same BS script being used with a different scenario.


Indian PM vows action against terrorists
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=76726&sectionid=351020402
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:14:01 GMT
 
Indian Premier Manmohan Singh vows to track down those responsible for the terrorist attacks in Mumbai that killed at least 125 people.

In a televised address, Singh said on Thursday the New Delhi government "will take whatever measures are necessary to ensure the safety and security of our citizens."

He added the perpetrators behind coordinated attacks were based "outside the country" and warned "neighbors" who provide a haven to anti-India militants. "We will take up strongly with our neighbors that the use of their territory for launching attacks on us will not be tolerated, and that there would be a cost if suitable measures are not taken by them," the premier emphasized.

India has in the past accused elements in Pakistan of supporting militants battling against Indian rule in the disputed Kashmir region, and of complicity in bomb attacks elsewhere in India.

Islamabad's top officials have condemned the attacks and promised full cooperation in fighting terrorism, however.

Meanwhile, militant group Lashkar-i-Tayyiba, which is fighting Indian rule in Kashmir, has denied any involvement in the deadly attacks.

Singh appealed to the people to maintain peace and harmony so that the enemies of New Delhi do not succeed in their nefarious designs.

Gunmen targeted several sites across Mumbai late on Wednesday, killing 125 people and injuring 327 others.
 
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:47:26 AM
Foreign death toll...

1 Briton

1 Japanese

1 Australian (not in G7)

That is 2 of the G7....

Wait till they report that 1 American, Canadian, Italian, French, and German have also been killed and there ya go!

Hey CNN...WHAT ABOUT THE scores of Indians killed?  They do not count I guess.  How is a British or Japanese life more valuable?  See how they abide by the philosophy...

1 death is a tragedy, 1,000,000 is a statistic.

Total NWO propaganda sensationalism.

Find the financial connections, cui bono.

BTW - there will be no investigation.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:48:16 AM
Sane I know you're a mod but the large articles can be just linked to.  Having such large articles (especially old news) makes it hard to keep a flow of conversation going.

ok
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:51:17 AM
125 dead, 300 injured
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94NCE7G0&show_article=1
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 11:51:30 AM
someone check the script...what happens next? This is just like 9/11 we should be able to predict future events fairly accurately.

I suppose after they kill the remaining terrorists we'll see several shots of the hotels looped from the news. Then news will repeat over and over who did this and how. Then some leader, PM or someone, will speak publicly from one of the sites saying that the Indian people are united against the terror threat. Then in a week or so they will pass some law to spy on everyone and take whatever action they deem necessary to protect the people. Then they announce military action in Pakistan...

Am I close?

You will first start to see very public almost dictatorial speeches by all of the G7 countries.

They will say such crazy shit like "no options are off the table."

Then you will start to see the demonization of the target site (most likely Pakistan).

They will paint all Pakistanis as the enemy of freedom.

Then the plans for "shock and awe" begin.

There are probably already many incursions going on right now.
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:53:45 AM
Indian politician just said this is the Indian variant of 9/11 and India needs to react the same way the US responded.


..."the very identity of India is involved.."
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 11:55:35 AM
In listening to the IBN talking heads, I find they are trying to ferment hostility against the Indian leaders for lack of preparation.  I wonder when Indian elections occur again.

Speaking of elections, if this is real, this could be the cause:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gzqdy20_VqcU8xB4AF51HoXLXTygD94K1T3O0

Indian PM:  "India must react in the same way as the US after 9/11"
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:58:12 AM
You know if I was one of those terrorists, I would at some point sneak around the police and claim to be an escaping hostage, or someone who was just hiding in his room. Then leave
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 11:59:22 AM
Oh now that's rich. IBN reporter arguing that this was really a terror attack on foreigners, not Indians. That this was an attack on America on Indian soil. great
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 12:01:53 PM
Indian politician just said this is the Indian variant of 9/11 and India needs to react the same way the US responded.


..."the very identity of India is involved.."

I wondered about identity and what the significance of the targets were lastnight... 9/11 was a symbolic attack on america's financial strength and it's security systems, so what was lastnight about? the strength of hotel and hospital security or what?
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 12:02:11 PM
Incursions into Pakistan have been going on for months+

The thing which Obama will use as a pretext to invade/attack Pakistan will be a US plane or helicopter being shot down over Pakistan.  And he's already told everyone that Afghanistan and Pakistan are in his and his handlers cross hairs.
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: Optimus November 27, 2008, 12:05:52 PM
Check out obama's statements in this article. He's practically peeing his pants with anticipation of attacking another country.


Bush offers condolences, assistance in call to Indian PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jQ9nJna1HyQ2eAlKaZ_zXKjQ8Rcg
2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — President George W. Bush called Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh Thursday to convey his sympathy for the victims of the "despicable" attacks in Mumbai and offer US help, the White House said.

"President Bush spoke this morning by telephone with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to express condolences to the victims of the terror attacks  in Mumbai, India, and solidarity with the people of India," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said in a statement.

"The president offered support and assistance to the government of India as it works to restore order, provide safety to its people and comfort to the victims and their families, and investigate these despicable acts," she said.

The US administration said it was closely following events in Mumbai after Islamist militant attacks left more than 100 people dead, amid growing fears over foreign hostages.

The White House convened a meeting of top intelligence and counter-terrorism officials Wednesday as reports from India said 200 people were believed trapped in one hotel alone.

"This afternoon, the White House National Security Council convened officials from counterterrorism and intelligence agencies as well as the State and Defense Departments," the White House said in a statement on Wednesday.

"The US government continues to monitor the situation, including the safety and security of our citizens, and stands ready to assist and support the Indian government."

More than 100 people died in coordinated attacks at two of Mumbai's top luxury hotels and the main Chhatrapati Shivaji railway station late Wednesday, officials said.

An Australian, a Britain, an Italian, a German, and a Japanese businessman were among foreigners confirmed dead -- while Americans, Israelis, Canadians and a Jewish rabbi were said to be among those still held hostage.

Almost 300 people have been reported wounded in the attacks which have been claimed by a group calling itself the Deccan Mujahedeen.

US president-elect Barack Obama condemned the attacks and said the United States must work to strengthen ties with India and other nations to "root out and destroy terrorist networks."

"These coordinated attacks on innocent civilians demonstrate the grave and urgent threat of terrorism," Obama's chief national security spokesperson, Brooke Anderson, said in a statement.

"The United States must continue to strengthen our partnerships with India and nations around the world to root out and destroy terrorist networks."

Obama spoke by telephone with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for an update on the situation, an official in Obama's transition office said on condition of anonymity.

He then spoke to the US ambassador to India Ranendra Sen, "and conveyed that his thoughts and prayers" are with the victims, the official said.

The US State Department condemned the attacks as "horrific," and said it was monitoring the situation closely.

"Our sympathies go out to the families and friends of those killed and injured, and to the people of Mumbai," deputy spokesman Robert Wood said in a statement.

He said the department was not aware of any American casualties.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice "has been briefed on the attacks in Mumbai and is monitoring the situation closely," another State Department official said, adding that the top US diplomat was in contact with officials at the US Embassy in New Delhi and the US consulate in Mumbai.

She "will be reaching to Indian government officials as well," said the official.

US officials had established a call center for Americans concerned about family or friends visiting or living in Mumbai.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg also condemned the bloody attacks, saying they were a reminder of "dark forces" in an increasingly inter-connected world.

"Today a horrific series of attacks in Mumbai, India reminded us that there remain dark forces in the world that think killing innocents is a way to advance an agenda," Bloomberg said in a statement on Wednesday.

He said New York and Mumbai shared much in common, including their diversity and importance to the business world.

Recalling that New York police were alerted earlier Wednesday to a reported Al-Qaeda plot against the transit system, Bloomberg said: "We live in a world that is knit closer together than ever."
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 12:06:38 PM
Air France plane down in the Mediterranean.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:08:01 PM
kind of o/t but whatever...

When the Indian PM was speaking in a statement, there was a bust of Gandhi in the left corner.

The bust was black.  The illuminati constantly use opposite imagery to reinforce messaging.

It is "opposite" imagery not racist crap.  If Gandhi was tatally black, the bust would have been white.

They are making a statement that Gandhi's platform of peace will not be used as a response to the G7 false flag attack.

BTW - all of the neo-con websites are saying that "conspiracy theorists" are anti-semetic and blaming this on jews.

Watch out for the controlled opposition.  This was a G7 false flag, way too big for any one country and if India's PM responds with violence against Pakistan, then he was also involved.

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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:08:47 PM
Air France plane down in the Mediterranean.

5 on board, was a training mission.

Also Thai airports on lockdown.
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 12:09:27 PM
Air France plane down in the Mediterranean.

Where is that story from bud?
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: wouldntyouliketoknow November 27, 2008, 12:09:55 PM
I can't find any news links to the plane down.  Anyone have one?
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: Amd304912 November 27, 2008, 12:12:37 PM
http://www.careerbuilder.co.in/INTL/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?job_did=J3G3G3727WRK4SCJ2TS&cbRecursionCnt=1&cbsid=1266f44ff01d4d54adb7602f5a89e5e0-281102911-J2-5

looks like the patsy applied.. from the basics it looks like a tier-1 group job app seeing as india is huge on outsourcing.
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: Optimus November 27, 2008, 12:17:55 PM
Anyone else notice that IBN now is using the word "war" on Mumbai. They are planting it in the minds of the public that this is 'war'. I haven't heard anything yet about this 'war' originating from Pakistan in their broadcast, but I could have missed it if they did.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:19:26 PM
EU Ministers Coordinate Mumbai Aid as European Casualties Reported
http://www.sahilonline.org/english/news.php?catID=globalnews&nid=4076&viewed=0
S.O. News service, Thursday, 27 November 2008:

As reports of European casualties in the Mumbai terrorist attack began to trickle in, top EU officials strongly condemned the "heinous" acts and vowed to coordinate aid for those Europeans caught up in the attack. On Thursday, Nov. 27, the justice ministers of the bloc's 27 member states interrupted a scheduled meeting in Brussels to hold an emergency discussion on the attacks, officials in the EU capital confirmed.

The ministers "condemned the attacks most strongly, conveyed their condolences to the families of the victims ... and expressed their solidarity with the Indian authorities under these tragic circumstances," a statement said. They also discussed the measures each state has put in place to help those of its citizens who were affected by the attacks. French Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie said that she and her 26 EU counterparts had agreed to coordinate medical and evacuation help in the wake of the terrorist attacks. “For countries that do not have consulates, nationals from those countries may of course turn to the 17 other member states who do have a consulate in Mumbai,” she said, adding that France would send a plane with evacuation experts and aid later Thursday. Alliot-Marie said the plane could be used to evacuate Europeans if necessary, she said. Spain's minister said Madrid was also sending an aircraft.

The announcement of aid comes as several European airlines have announced flight cancellations into and out of Mumbai. German airline Lufthansa said it had scrapped two flights departing from Germany Thursday and Italian carrier Alitalia cancelled all flights to Mumbai until further notice. Air France likewise cancelled a flight from Mumbai to Paris scheduled for early Thursday morning. A company source said 15 members of a flight crew remained holed up in their rooms in one of the hotels invaded by gunmen, the Oberoi/Trident, though they were not being held hostage. As the Indian army struggled to route out the remaining terrorists and free those still caught in two hotels in Mumbai, the first reports of European casualties among the more than 125 dead began to trickle in. An Australian, a Briton, a German, an Italian and a Japanese businessman were among foreigners confirmed dead.

A 51-year-old German television executive from C.A.M.P. TV, a private company based in Munich, died after suffering fatal injuries in the siege. He fell as he climbed down the fa�ade of the Taj Mahal Palace Hotel on Wednesday night.

Germany's Foreign Ministry indicated he was the only German killed in the attack, but others were wounded. Britain's High Commissioner to India, Richard Stagg, told the BBC that seven British citizens had been injured in the attacks but Prime Minister Gordon Brown said earlier that it remained clear more were caught up in the attacks on the hotels.

Witnesses say the gunmen sought out Westerners

Among those also caught in the crossfire were members of a European Parliament delegation. They were in the Taj Mahal Palace hotel in the Indian city along with top industry executives and well-heeled tourists when the stunning raids were launched Wednesday night. Sajjad Karim, a Conservative member of the European parliament from northwest England, told BBC radio how he was walking out of the front doors of the Taj Mahal Palace when the gunmen burst in. "All of a sudden there was gunshots that we could hear from outside the main grounds of the hotel. We were directed back into the hotel. As we got to the rear exit another gunman came in who was carrying an automatic machine gun type of weapon and he just started firing that, quite indiscriminately really." The MEPs hid in a kitchen area while the gunmen went on their rampage reportedly demanding whether guests had British or US passports. They "made their way along the corridors, and they were entering rooms and firing and security guards were exchanging fire with them."

Though the delegation was able to evacuate and are now safe, it is believed that Americans, Israelis and Canadians were said to be among those believed to still be held hostage.

Meanwhile, leaders from across Europe have issued statements condemning the attacks. The European Commission issued a statement condemning "in the strongest terms the heinous terrorist attacks." "Terrorism is never justified and is no means to achieve any goal. We stand by the Indian government in its fight against terrorism. Our thoughts are with the families who have lost loved ones and we wish a speedy recovery to those injured," the statement by the EU's executive arm said.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who'd stayed in the Taj hotel just last year, phoned Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh Thursday to express shock and send a message of condolence. "Our thoughts are with the victims and their families," she said, further condemning "these criminal acts in strong terms." In a separate statement, the French government, which currently holds the EU's rotating presidency, said that it had heard of the attacks with "horror and indignation" and "condemned them with the greatest rigor." The presidency "knows the attachment the people of India have to democracy" and "stands by their side during this dramatic trial," the statement said. Britain's Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, likewise pledged his country's support, saying that he would send police experts to India to help investigators and do "whatever is necessary" to protect Britons from what he called a "horrific incident." "We're sending police emergency teams that are well versed in dealing with terrorism," he said, adding that he was "shocked and outraged" by the attacks which killed at least 100 people.

"We will try to give what support we can through British police and security officials to the Indian government at this time. �That's in addition to the expert staff who are being sent out to help British nationals... We will do whatever is necessary to protect British citizens and ensure the world is a safer place," he said.

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Now there are 3 members of the G7 with casualties and 2 other members as hostages.

5 out of 7 so far.

Once Italy and France declare a hostage or a casualty, then the G7 false flag operation will really rev up the rhetoric and demonization of Pakistan.
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 12:20:55 PM
Where is that story from bud?

CNN

Can't find the story online.  Found this though.

15 Air France workers trapped in Mumbai hotel

http://www.mercurynews.com/travel/ci_11088133

Just found it odd.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:21:01 PM
Air New Zealand Jet Airbus 320 plunged into med sea, 7 on board.


This is like when that jet blew up over brooklyn after 9/11
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:22:27 PM
CNN

Can't find the story online.  Found this though.

15 Air France workers trapped in Mumbai hotel

http://www.mercurynews.com/travel/ci_11088133

Just found it odd.

Now we got 6 out of the 7 G7 countries with hostages/casualties.

Soon they will mention an Italian.  Then the G7 will bring order to their planned chaos.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 12:24:55 PM
Theres a italian pregant woman inside the hotel unless she has been rescued she was locked in her room.
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 12:29:25 PM
Now we got 6 out of the 7 G7 countries with hostages/casualties.

Soon they will mention an Italian.  Then the G7 will bring order to their planned chaos.

I don't think that's enough people.  This situation still isn't big enough.  As I said above, TPTB need 700 dead not 6 westerners.  You're really stuck on this G-7 thing Sane.  I really think it goes beyond that.  China, Russia, India, Australia etc... are as much NWO as we are.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:29:36 PM

Indian arrests signal the rise of Hindu terrorism, Andrew Legon
http://icsr.info/node/35747
Thu, 11/13/2008 - 16:21 (less than two months ago, how is the PM avoiding the issue of hard line Hindus?  Just like Bush avoiding PNAC for 9/11)


Indian police arrested a Hindu monk on Wednesday during an investigation into a wave of bomb attacks that have killed more than 200 people this year. Sudhakar Dwivedi, who often used the alias Swami Amritanand, was arrested in Kanpur in the central state of Uttar Pradesh. The head of a Hindu monastery, Amritanand was charged with conspiring in an attack on the predominantly Muslim town of Malegoan in September which killed four people.

The toD Verdict: In years past, terrorism in India has been largely blamed on Islamist groups. Concern has recently shifted, however, to the rising problem of Hindu militancy which many fear could be fulfilling Jawaharlal Nehru's prediction in 1964 that the main danger to India was "Hindu right-wing communalism." The case of Sudhakar Dwivedi follows the arrest of nine other suspects who have been charged with murder and conspiracy in connection with the Malegoan bombing. In August, two members of a Hindu chauvinist group the Bajrang Dal died while trying to build a bomb in the northern town of Kanpur. Two other suspected members of the same group died under similar circumstances in 2006.

Bal Thackeray, the leader of another Hindu hard-line group the Shiv Sena, wrote in June that "the threat of Islamic terror in India is rising... it is time to counter the same with Hindu terror. Hindu suicide squads should be readied to ensure the existence of Hindu society and to protect the nation."

Worryingly, analysts have highlighted disturbing connections between fringe Hindu militants and military and civilian officials. One of the Malegoan suspects, Lt. Colonel Shrikant Prasad Purohit, has been accused of providing money, arms and training to the bombers. Meanwhile, in the eastern state of Orissa, Hindu police officers have been accused of deliberate inaction and active participation in recent anti-Christian violence. Fraternal outfits of the state-ruling BJP party such as the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Bajrang Dal have been implicated in the violence.

Hindu militancy, which has been labeled "reverse terrorism" by partisans who see such action as revenge for earlier Muslim or Christian provocation, is a worrisome escalation of violence that could pose an existential threat to multicultural India.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:33:13 PM
I don't think that's enough people.  This situation still isn't big enough.  As I said above, TPTB need 700 dead not 6 westerners.  You're really stuck on this G-7 thing Sane.  I really think it goes beyond that.  China, Russia, India, Australia etc... are as much NWO as we are.

Yeah I am stuck on this G7 thing, if you want to add Russia then call it G8.

The fact remains that Pegasus false flag/political assassinations are controlled by G7.  Please read/watch the Tatum chronicles.

The G7 is already responsible for the financial false flag attack on every middle class citizen in this country (if not the world).

They do not need 600, they just need 24/7 news coverage blaming Pakistan for more destabilization efforts.

I definitely agree about Australia and would add Israel (duh).

But Pakistan is the target, no doubt about it.
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: plantop14 November 27, 2008, 12:34:55 PM
Yeah I am stuck on this G7 thing, if you want to add Russia then call it G8.

The fact remains that Pegasus false flag/political assassinations are controlled by G7.  Please read/watch the Tatum chronicles.

The G7 is already responsible for the financial false flag attack on every middle class citizen in this country (if not the world).

They do not need 600, they just need 24/7 news coverage blaming Pakistan for more destabilization efforts.

I definitely agree about Australia and would add Israel (duh).

But Pakistan is the target, no doubt about it.
Yeah and no shit, minipulating two countries with nukes! >:( Anything is possible with these madmen! >:(
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:35:05 PM
Theres a italian pregant woman inside the hotel unless she has been rescued she was locked in her room.

yahtzee
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:35:50 PM
Silent Emergence Of Hindu Terrorism
http://www.countercurrents.org/gatade290608.htm
By Subhash Gatade

29 June, 2008
Countercurrents.org

What is common between Kathmandu - the capital of Nepal ; Thane, Vashi which happen to lie in Maharashtra; Tenkasi, which is part of Tamilnadu and Indore, which lies in Madhya Pradesh? Aprops there seem to be no commonality, although a close look at stray sounding incidents in these places brings forth a pattern which has serious import for the manner in which (non-state) terrorism is viewed in this country. It is disturbing that media which calls itself 'watchdog of democracy' and which has no qualms in stigmatising the minority community on unfounded allegations of 'terrorist acts' has suddenly gone mute since the perpetrators of terrorist acts in all these cases belong to the majority community.

It need be told that Kathmandu - capital of the newest Republic of Nepal- witnessed bomb explosions outside the Birendra International Centre where newly elected members of the constituent assembly had assembled for the oath taking ceremony. Although nobody was killed and only few faced minor injuries, it was a clear signal that elements opposed to the momentous changes in the Nepalese polity were involved in the attack The local police immediately blamed Hindu fanatics for this cowardly attack.

Close watchers of the Nepal situation did not lose sight of the fact that promonarchy Hindutva forces had even resolved to take up arms for the restoration of Hindu Rashtra. This meeting was held in the immediate aftermath of elections to the constituent assembly and was attended by sympathetic elements from both the countries. It had been organised under the aegis of Vishwa Hindu Mahasangh an international organisation of Hindus, in Balrampur ( India) which was presided over by the 'firebrand' BJP M.P Yogi Adityanath.

If Kathmandu witnessed bomb explosions as a violent reaction to the victory of the the Republican forces in Nepal, Indore - the erstwhile capital of the Holkars - witnessed firing by activists of Hindu organisations in full public view. They had assembled there after a rally as a part of celebrations to commemorate the coronation of Chhatrapati Shivaji. Shivaji Maharaj as he is popularly known was a great secular ruler of 17 th century in Western India who fought with the Mughals. The firing incident which was covered by the media took place under the watchful eyes of the local police itself which remained a mute spectator and did not even deem it necessary to file a report on this thoroughly unlawful act. The brazenness of the participants in this celebrations was evident also from the fact that they even handed over the guns to the kids present there who also fired in the air.

[...] More at link above
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: Optimus November 27, 2008, 12:37:02 PM
The Taj Hotel is on fire again.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:38:41 PM
Now they are going after the sensationalization of the "hostages."

CNN is committing terrorism by creating a paradigm by whiuch everyone is made to feel like they are a hostage due to the patsies of this false flkag attack.

Well we are hostages, but not by the patsies, by the instigators.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:41:57 PM
The Taj Hotel is on fire again.

"Charlie red, charlie red, this is alpha blue comeback."

"Alpha blue this is charlie red go ahead."

"Charlie red are the CNN cameras on the Taj again comeback"

"Alpha blue that is affirmative"

"Blue leader, you have the go ahead, light 'er up."


Repeat until enough sensationalism pierces the cortex of all Americans in this overly done false flag attack on individual freedoms.
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: Amd304912 November 27, 2008, 12:43:31 PM
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1209739
PTI
Thursday, November 27, 2008  18:39 IST

MUMBAI: Terrorists who have caused mayhem in the metropolis are not run-of-the-mill militants as believed earlier, but are "highly-trained and highly-motivated professionals".

In the operations, Marcos seized stun grenades, hand grenades and other sophisticated ammunitions and ATM cards, plus US dollars from the terrorists.

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Nov272008/national20081127103186.asp?section=updatenews

Pakistan moots intelligence hotline
New Delhi/Chandigarh, IANS:
Pakistan, however, warned against making insinuations against each other in case of terror attacks and underlined the need for a cautious approach towards tackling the common scourge.
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: plantop14 November 27, 2008, 12:44:50 PM
"Charlie red, charlie red, this is alpha blue comeback."

"Alpha blue this is charlie red go ahead."

"Charlie red are the CNN cameras on the Taj again comeback"

"Alpha blue that is affirmative"

"Blue leader, you have the go ahead, light 'er up."


Repeat until enough sensationalism pierces the cortex of all Americans in this overly done false flag attack on individual freedoms.
Very good scripting there Sane, I'm not so sure you are not a Hollywood secret agent! ;D
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:47:10 PM
Who was behind the "Lavon Affair"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iraq/browse_thread/thread/1a675b00b7e71160
and "king david hotel bombing"
.
Sounds like the CIA and Mossad attacks in Mumbai

Who was blamed
WHO was the target
WHO did it
WHY

Links below
Reports indicate a trigger happy CIA agent has set off a massive
hysterical over reaction in India killing over 60 civilians so far

CIA agents herded USA and British/ [israeli ] citizens onto the
rooftops for evacuation by helicopter if need arises

Indian Army adds to the tension as CIA open fire on them

 Some Statistics from the USA

    In 1999, there were 28,874 gun-related deaths in the United States
- over 80 deaths every day. (Source: for 1999. National Vital
Statistics Reports. 2001;49 (8).)
http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

Private  security and CIA / Mossad agents use guns and hand grenades
to kill anybody who looks Muslim in nearby areas as the Hysteria
spread and more drunk speed crazed CIA and Mossad agents swarmed into
action

CIA will order western media to blame Muslim terrorists

BUT the dead will mostly be Muslims and very very few westerners

IF IT WAS A MUSLIM  MASS ATTACK , how come so few western dead ??

Clearly just another stuff up by drunken drug crazed CIA / Mossad
private death squad spaced out on speed over reacts AGAIN

Western media will run with anything that points to their preferred
villains and wont report the truth or question the facts

Lavon Affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

The Lavon Affair refers to the scandal over a failed Israeli covert
operation in Egypt known as Operation Susannah, in which Israeli
military intelligence planted bombs in Egyptian, American and British-
owned targets in Egypt in the summer of 1954 in the hopes that Arab
and Muslim groups would be blamed.

The King David Hotel bombing was a deadly bomb strike by the Irgun, a
militant Zionist group, on the headquarters of the British Mandatory
authorities of Palestine, located at the King David Hotel in
Jerusalem. The offensive was carried out on 22 July 1946 and was the
deadliest attack against the British during the Mandate era
(1920-1948).

Operating in disguise, Irgun members planted a bomb in the basement of
the main building of the hotel, part of which housed the Mandate
Secretariat and the British military headquarters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

.
Sounds like the CIA and Mossad attacks in Mumbai

An Indian policeman escorts out a survivor from the shooting site at
Chattrapati Shivaji Railway terminal

Nearly 80 killed in multiple Mumbai shootings, blasts

MUMBAI — Nearly 80 people were killed in a series of CIA and Mossad
coordinated attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai late Wednesday, as
heavily armed CIA and Mossad trained  militants hit two luxury hotels
and took foreign guests hostage.

A CIA / Mossad false flag group calling itself the "Deccan Mujahedeen"
claimed responsibility for the assaults on the landmark Taj Mahal and
Trident hotels in the south of the city and a number of shooting and
bombing incidents elsewhere in the city.

Maharashtra state chief secretary Johnny Joseph said 78 people had
been killed. Estimates of the number of wounded ranged from 200 to
350.

The focus of the CIA / Mossad coordinated assaults was the two upscale
hotels, with gunmen taking an unknown number of foreign guests hostage
and exchanging fire with anti-terrorist commando units.

Mumbai's Anti-Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare was killed in one
of the shootouts for investigation CIA and Mossad agents in the recent
past he had to be killed

Naval commandos stormed the Taj in the early hours of Thursday
morning, apparently leading to the release of some guests inside, with
television footage showing people being shepherded out of the
building.

Shortly afterwards, the upper floors of the landmark hotel became
engulfed in flames and huge plumes of smoke billowed out from its
distinctive red dome. It was not immediately clear what caused the
blaze. but hand grenades were being used by trigger happy police as
usual shooting anything that moved

Police said two men  were shot dead, but  more were still believed to
be  inside the hotel. and all will be labeled as terrorists even if
they were innocent civilians

Fire engines were brought in and trapped guests were rescued from
their bedroom windows.

There was also a standoff at the Trident hotel, where at least  gunmen
were believed to be holding out but most likely its a case of mass
hysteria like the civilian shot on the London train , once the
terrorist police start they shoot anybody that looks Muslim and claim
a terrorist kill.

Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A.K. Sharma said several
men  had earlier stormed into the passenger hall of Mumbai's main
Chhatrapati Shivaji railway and opened fire and thrown grenades and
escaped in a police car

Elsewhere, firing was also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai,
and three people were reported killed in what police called a "bomb
blast" in a taxi in the southeast of the city.

One British guest at the Taj told local Indian television that he had
been among a dozen people herded together by two heavily armed men
CIA and Mossad agents and taken up to the hotel's upper floors for
evacuation by helicopter.

"They said they wanted anyone with British and American passports and
then they took us up the stairs. I think they wanted to take us to the
roof," he said, adding that he and another hostage managed to escape
on the 18th floor.

The Taj, opposite the British colonial era Gateway of India, is one of
the world's leading hotels and CIA wanted to destroy India as a
competitor for tourism and banking

The head of the Madrid government and a British member of the European
Parliament were inside when the gunmen stormed the building but
escaped unhurt.

"All I saw was one CIA man on foot carrying a machine gun-type of
weapon -- which I then saw him firing from and I saw people hitting
the floor, people right next to me," MEP Sajjad Karim was quoted as
saying by the BBC website.

The Hotel only lets CIA and Mossad agents carry machine guns in
tourist hotels

A fellow MEP from Spain, Ignasi Guardans, spoke to Spain's Radio
Nacional network as he took shelter in a restaurant.

"The CIA and Mossad agents  polterrorists are driving around Mumbai
shooting in the air and hurling grenades from police cars," Guardans
said.

One Japanese was among the dead, the foreign ministry in Tokyo said,
while at least two Australians were injured and a 20-person trade
delegation from New South Wales was caught up in the violence,
according to officials in Canberra.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh voiced outrage at the attacks,
which Interior Minister Shivraj Patil described as a "big conspiracy."

US President-elect Barack Obama also condemned the attacks ,  and
pledged to strengthen CIA and Mossad ties with India and other nations
to "root out and destroy terrorist networks." and protect them from
discovering who really carried out the attacks

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown called the attacks "outrageous,"
while France, which currently holds the rotating presidency of the
European Union, condemned them "in the strongest possible terms."

India has witnessed a wave of CIA and Mossad coordinated attacks in
recent months.

The CIA and mossad are very please western media has stopped reporting
on the USA economy and forget that 80 people are shot dead every day
in the USA
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: Amd304912 November 27, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
sandline
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:50:03 PM
India Reeling After Terror Attacks
http://news.aol.com/article/at-least-82-die-in-mumbai-shootings/261363
By ANITA CHANG, AP
posted: 47 MINUTES AGO


Among the dead were at least one Australian, a Japanese and a British national, said Pradeep Indulkar, a senior government official of Maharashtra state. An Italian and a German were also killed, according to their foreign ministries.

[...]

Among those foreigners still held captive in all three buildings were Americans, British, Italians, Swedes, Canadians, Yemenis, New Zealanders, Spaniards, Turks, French, Israelis and a Singaporean.

[...]

The United States and Pakistan were among the countries that condemned the attacks.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 12:51:34 PM
Question - Why the hell is Paul Josepth Watson  saying the media is blaming Al Queda when they AREN'T. Perahps one media outlet or two in England have blamed AL Queda so it must be true!. No offense to the Prisonplanet website, forums or Alex Jones, but Paul Watson has written more misleading headlines in the past 3 months then the past 2 years. The majority of the article just points to intelligence agencies as well, i shut my mouth the 3 or 4 times Paul wrote an article that had a misleading headline but this is becoming a pattern
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Amd304912 November 27, 2008, 12:53:10 PM
Question - Why the hell is Paul Josepth Watson  saying the media is blaming Al Queda when they AREN'T. Perahps one media outlet or two in England have blamed AL Queda so it must be true!. No offense to the Prisonplanet website, forums or Alex Jones, but Paul Watson has written more misleading headlines in the past 3 months then the past 2 years. The majority of the article just points to intelligence agencies as well, i shut my mouth the 3 or 4 times Paul wrote an article that had a misleading headline but this is becoming a pattern

media is still drawing straws on a boogieman name.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:54:21 PM
Here is the script playing out as Paul predicted:

India apprehends Pakistan ships
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24719264-12377,00.html
From correspondents in New Delhi | November 28, 2008
Article from: 
Agence France-Presse


TWO Pakistani merchant vessels have been apprehended off the coast of India following militant attacks in Mumbai, the official Press Trust of India reports.

The agency quoted Home Ministry sources today as saying the ships were stopped off the coast of Gujarat state, just north of Mumbai.

The report came after the Indian navy said it was following up on suspicions that the gunmen who attacked the city, killing at least 125 people, had reached the city by speedboat after being dropped off by a larger ship.

It also comes after Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said the militants had come from "outside the country" and the military official leading the operation to flush them out explicitly insisted they were from arch-rival Pakistan.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 12:55:40 PM
SANE it'smore likely MI6 and Mossad they were using STENs as i said last night, which are only made in the UK and ISrael and are essentially mass murdering assassination weapons. They spray bullets very fast and eradicely, meant for pumping someone up at mid to close range.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:55:56 PM
As mentioned earlier...

The second amendment guarantees that these kind of G7 false flags cannot happen on American soil.  They need to get the VP to give stand down orders for US soil false flags.
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: RickT November 27, 2008, 12:57:59 PM
Yeah I am stuck on this G7 thing, if you want to add Russia then call it G8.

The fact remains that Pegasus false flag/political assassinations are controlled by G7.  Please read/watch the Tatum chronicles.

The G7 is already responsible for the financial false flag attack on every middle class citizen in this country (if not the world).

They do not need 600, they just need 24/7 news coverage blaming Pakistan for more destabilization efforts.

I definitely agree about Australia and would add Israel (duh).

But Pakistan is the target, no doubt about it.

I read it yesterday.

So, you are in the camp of people who don't believe Russia, China, India, Iran, Egypt, Turkey (I could go on) are lead, owned and operated by the NWO, with each just playing their role?  Hell, even Pakistan leadership.

So, you are absolutely positive about this being a pretext to attack Pakistan... since I've said Obama has been saying for months that Pakistan is on his hit list, under your thinking, this attack on Pakistan should happen even before Obama gets sworn in.  Do you believe that?

I say something happens in the spring which directly affects the US and gets blamed on Pakistan, then it gets attacked but not before 30,000+ troops are moved into Afghanistan.

1 death of a Canadian will not be enough to get this country worked up... I'm pretty sure the same can be said for the Brits, French, Germans, Japanese... Italians can be a bit hot headed though.  lol

Anyway we'll see soon enough.  DUH
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 12:58:03 PM
Question - Why the hell is Paul Josepth Watson  saying the media is blaming Al Queda when they AREN'T. Perahps one media outlet or two in England have blamed AL Queda so it must be true!. No offense to the Prisonplanet website, forums or Alex Jones, but Paul Watson has written more misleading headlines in the past 3 months then the past 2 years. The majority of the article just points to intelligence agencies as well, i shut my mouth the 3 or 4 times Paul wrote an article that had a misleading headline but this is becoming a pattern

google search mumbai+ al-queda

you will find over 200 articles in the past 24 hours.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 12:58:11 PM
Here is the script playing out as Paul predicted:

India apprehends Pakistan ships
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24719264-12377,00.html
From correspondents in New Delhi | November 28, 2008
Article from: 
Agence France-Presse


TWO Pakistani merchant vessels have been apprehended off the coast of India following militant attacks in Mumbai, the official Press Trust of India reports.

The agency quoted Home Ministry sources today as saying the ships were stopped off the coast of Gujarat state, just north of Mumbai.

The report came after the Indian navy said it was following up on suspicions that the gunmen who attacked the city, killing at least 125 people, had reached the city by speedboat after being dropped off by a larger ship.

It also comes after Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said the militants had come from "outside the country" and the military official leading the operation to flush them out explicitly insisted they were from arch-rival Pakistan.
It would take a child to predict they are targeting pakistan, the point was barely ANYONE has mentioned ALQueda in the media.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:01:13 PM
Ok  you are right about the google results but i had the TV on CNN and NBC all last night and they actually said it was unlikely to be Al Queda over and over again
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:04:22 PM
It would take a child to predict they are targeting pakistan, the point was barely ANYONE has mentioned ALQueda in the media.

over 200 articles mention al-qaeda links, but there is one article that shows what the experts think (still they blame muslims rather than hard line hindus -either way they are all patsies, this was an NWO false flag):

Experts doubt Al Qaeda link in Mumbai attacks
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/27/asia/28group.php
By Mark McDonald
Published: November 27, 2008


HONG KONG: The men came wearing black hoods, firing automatic weapons and throwing grenades, taking hostages, attacking two hotels, a cinema, a café, a train station and other popular and undefended "soft targets."

An e-mail message to Indian media outlets that claimed responsibility for the bloody attacks in Mumbai on Wednesday night said the militants were from the Deccan Mujahideen.

Global terrorism experts said Thursday they had never heard of the group. And based on its tactics, they said, it was probably not a cell or group linked to Al Qaeda.

"It's even unclear whether it's a real group or not," said Bruce Hoffman, a professor at the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University and the author of the book "Inside Terrorism." "It could be a cover name for another group, or a name adopted just for this particular incident."

Chrtistine Fair, senior political scientist and a South Asia expert at the RAND Corporation, was careful to say that the identity of the terrorists could not yet be known. But she insisted the style of the attacks and the targets in Mumbai suggested that the militants were likely to be Indian Muslims - and not linked to Al Qaeda or the violent South Asian terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba.

"There's absolutely nothing Al Qaeda-like about it," she said of the attack. "Did you see any suicide bombers? And there are no fingerprints of Lashkar. They don't do hostage taking, and they don't do grenades." Hoffman agreed that the assault was "not exactly Al Qaeda's modus operandi, which is suicide attacks."

But he said the timed attacks, which he called "tactical, sophisticated and coordinated," perhaps pointed to a broader organization[duh-like the G7?] behind the perpetrators. Fair also noted that the fact the group had not proclaimed its ideology in a manifesto was "not at all unusual."

"You don't see these types of terrorist operations very often, if at all," Hoffman said. "These aren't just a bunch of radical guys coming together to cause mayhem. "This takes a different skill set. It doesn't take much skill to make a bomb. This is not just pressing a button as a suicide bomber and dying. You don't learn this over the Internet." The word Deccan describes the middle and south of India, which is dominated by the Deccan Plateau. Mujahideen, of course, is the commonly used Arabic word for holy fighters. The very name - if it is a real group - suggests a domestic agenda.

"It's maybe not so much a group as a cell that will take on a name for a specific operation," said Fair. "In India you hear these unusual names." Fair did not agree that the attacks on Wednesday necessarily required deep planning and training. "This wasn't something that required a logistical mastermind," she said. "These were not hardened targets. A huge train station with zero security. Two hotels with no security, both owned by Indians. Leopold's Café. How hard is it, really? It's not rocket science." Fair believes the attacks could be "yet another manifestation of domestic terrorism" that has its genesis in a longstanding institutional discrimination against Muslims.

"There are a lot of very, very angry Muslims in India," she said, "The economic disparities are startling, and India has been very slow to publicly embrace its rising Muslim problem. You cannot put lipstick on this pig. This is a major domestic political challenge for India." The CIA puts the population of India at 1.15 billion, with Hindus making up about 80 percent of the total and Muslims 13.4 percent. Fair said one incident - "a watershed event" - that continues to anger Muslims were the riots that swept nearby Gujarat State in 2002. The violence killed between 1,000 and 2,000 people, most of them Muslims.

"The public political face of India says, 'Our Muslims have not been radicalized.' But the Indian intelligence apparatus knows that's not true. India's Muslim communities are being sucked into the global landscape of Islamist jihad. "Indians will have a strong incentive to link this to Al Qaeda. 'Al Qaeda's in your toilet!' But this is a domestic issue. This is not India's 9/11." For Hoffman, who has studied terrorism for more than 30 years, the Mumbai attacks are "alarming on a number of levels." "It's not often that things in terrorism alarm me. So much is a repeat of what we see almost every day, like suicide bombings. There's no real innovation in terrorism, which is why 9/11 was so terrifying, because it was so innovative and heinously clever. "But these attacks show how a handful of men, basically using weapons off the shelf, can paralyze a city and frustrate highly trained security forces. These attacks were calculated to spread alarm and anxiety - to put it quite frankly, to unhinge things - and that's exactly what they've done."
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:06:43 PM
Ok  you are right about the google results but i had the TV on CNN and NBC all last night and they actually said it was unlikely to be Al Queda over and over again

I have heard links mentioned on CNN/MSNBC/FOX yesterday.

Not as much today.

Maybe because everyone already knows that Bush funds al-qaeda and al-qaeda really is al-CIA-Duh
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:08:06 PM
This attack is probably being positioned (by G7/NWO) as a homegrown type of attack to push more thought crime legislation, but the Indian PM is pushing the pakistan link.

Rothschild/Rockefeller are the bookies placing the bets (they get their cut no matter who wins).
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:08:12 PM
Most of the Al Queda link sources are coming directly out of the UK. I dont see any major U.S. Outlets saying it was Al Queda. Maybe they are just late :P
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:11:58 PM
This attack is probably being positioned (by G7/NWO) as a homegrown type of attack to push more thought crime legislation, but the Indian PM is pushing the pakistan link.

Rothschild/Rockefeller are the bookies placing the bets (they get their cut no matter who wins).
I dont think homegrown was what they were after. I think the whole point is to surround Pakistan with enemies before Obama is in office. If you have India having fights with Pakistan on that boarder, and the U.S. on the other boarder, they are dead ducks. I dont see the Nuclear warheads as being a big deal because ISI is linked with CIA, i think they are just trying to start a huge civil war in the whole region.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:16:01 PM
Affects on US.. http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=local&newsid=102739

New York, Nov 27 (IANS) New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has put the city's underground metro system on high alert following the horrific terror attack in Mumbai.

The decision to put the underground metro system on high alert was taken after New York received reports of potential terrorism threat. Millions of people use the metro system daily.

"Just today, we dealt with an unsubstantiated report of potential terrorism here in New York. This report led the New York Police Department to take precautionary steps to protect our transit system, and we will always do whatever is necessary to keep our city safe," Bloomberg said in a statement.

A day before the Mumbai attack, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Department of Homeland Security had warned that there is a "possible but uncorroborated" Al Qaeda threat against the New York transportation system.

Bloomberg said he would be joining the Indian American community Thursday at a prayer service at the Ganesha temple in Queens. New Yorkers, including the hundreds of thousands that trace their roots to that part of the world, stand together and reject the depraved methods of the terrorists, he said.

"Today a horrific series of attacks in Mumbai, India reminded us that there remain dark forces in the world that think killing innocents is a way to advance an agenda," he said.

Observing that New York is in many ways similar to Mumbai, Bloomberg said it is a wonderfully diverse city that is a leading centre for business, education, science and the arts.

"I extend my deep sympathies to the families of those killed and to those wounded in today's attacks. Tomorrow, I will join members of New York's Indian community at the Ganesha Temple in Queens for a prayer service," he said.

Obama telephones Rice, Ronen Sen on Mumbai attack

New York/Washington, Nov 27 (IANS)US president-elect Barack Obama has telephoned Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Indian Ambassador Ronen Sen for an update on the nature of the Mumbai terror attacks that have claimed over 100 lives, his office said.

Obama, who strongly condemned the terror strikes, telephoned Rice late Wednesday night and Sen earlier Thursday, saying his thoughts and prayers are with those affected by this tragic situation.

Obama, according to his office, told Sen there was only one president at a time but he was monitoring the situation and has was in communication with Rice.

Earlier, in a statement Obama strongly condemned terrorist attacks and said the US must strengthen its partnerships with India and other nations to root out and destroy terrorist networks.

"President-elect Obama strongly condemns today's terrorist attacks in Mumbai, and his thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families, and the people of India," said his chief national security spokesperson Brooke Anderson.

"These coordinated attacks on innocent civilians demonstrate the grave and urgent threat of terrorism," he said.

"The United States must continue to strengthen our partnerships with India and nations around the world to root out and destroy terrorist networks.

"We stand with the people of India, whose democracy will prove far more resilient than the hateful ideology that led to these attacks," Anderson added.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:18:34 PM
I dont think homegrown was what they were after. I think the whole point is to surround Pakistan with enemies before Obama is in office. If you have India having fights with Pakistan on that boarder, and the U.S. on the other boarder, they are dead ducks. I dont see the Nuclear warheads as being a big deal because ISI is linked with CIA, i think they are just trying to start a huge civil war in the whole region.

Everyone has their agenda.

Remember that 9/11 pointed to Al-Qaeda (via false/speculative evidence), but Bush was pushing Iraq first.

The same thing is going on now.  Everyone is pushing their agenda and Rockefeller/Rothschild are sitting back and taking all the bets.

I obviously agree that Pakistan is the main target, but it is only short term (I mentioned earlier that Pakistan/India is the next Iran/Iraq-with G7 funding both sides getting them both into greater debt).  In the end the entire planet is to be a prison.

Homegrown terrorism legislation will probably outlaw this very forum.  It will allow unprecedented future false flags to go on without any disbursement of raw info like on here.
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: master S November 27, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
Just my two cents.  One of two possibilities exist as to the WHY of the operation.  One as was just stated by Sane, attack allowed to happen with pervavise government knowledge in order to employ more restrictive measures (i.e. speech, movement, organization.  Secondly, reprisal on India by G7 (western intelligence agencies) for straying to far from their masters wishes.  India has been making overtures to Russia and China about breaking off from the British mercantilist system.  Also talking to Iran after some disagreements with the Israelis.  Recent stoppage of illegal drug shipments by Indian gov't a possibility as U.S., England and Israel have been rolling in narcotics dough since takeover of Afghanistan.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:27:47 PM
Just my two cents.  One of two possibilities exist as to the WHY of the operation.  One as was just stated by Sane, attack allowed to happen with pervavise government knowledge in order to employ more restrictive measures (i.e. speech, movement, organization.  Secondly, reprisal on India by G7 (western intelligence agencies) for straying to far from their masters wishes.  India has been making overtures to Russia and China about breaking off from the British mercantilist system.  Also talking to Iran after some disagreements with the Israelis.  Recent stoppage of illegal drug shipments by Indian gov't a possibility as U.S., England and Israel have been rolling in narcotics dough since takeover of Afghanistan.

I pick the second.

India was hit hard by G7 for not changing their entire monetary system.
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: David Rothscum November 27, 2008, 01:31:54 PM
I read it yesterday.

So, you are in the camp of people who don't believe Russia, China, India, Iran, Egypt, Turkey (I could go on) are lead, owned and operated by the NWO, with each just playing their role?  Hell, even Pakistan leadership.

So, you are absolutely positive about this being a pretext to attack Pakistan... since I've said Obama has been saying for months that Pakistan is on his hit list, under your thinking, this attack on Pakistan should happen even before Obama gets sworn in.  Do you believe that?

I say something happens in the spring which directly affects the US and gets blamed on Pakistan, then it gets attacked but not before 30,000+ troops are moved into Afghanistan.

1 death of a Canadian will not be enough to get this country worked up... I'm pretty sure the same can be said for the Brits, French, Germans, Japanese... Italians can be a bit hot headed though.  lol

Anyway we'll see soon enough.  DUH

One attack like this is not enough for the US to have an excuse to invade Pakistan. It's enough to detoriate relations between India and Pakistan and thus get India involved in destroying Pakistan though. We've already had soldiers killed in border incidents between Pakistan and India this year, so it's easy for this to escalate.
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: voodo0 November 27, 2008, 01:32:08 PM
125 dead, 327 injured in Mumbai attacks: MHA

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/125_dead_327_injured_in_Mumbai_attacks_MHA/articleshow/3766520.cms
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:38:18 PM
This is turning into an extended episode of 24.

I guess all Americans forgot that their entire 401K's have been raided by the G7
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:39:42 PM
If its about drug trade then George Soros and Zbrzezinki were involved. Soros is like the World Drug Lord. He is responsible for all the assassinations in Mexico and has been pushing legalisation of almost all drugs in U.S. and Mexico for years.
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: Capt. Obvious November 27, 2008, 01:40:09 PM
Ok  you are right about the google results but i had the TV on CNN and NBC all last night and they actually said it was unlikely to be Al Queda over and over again

This is what Watson wrote:

"The majority of the corporate media has gleefully seized upon the terror attacks in Mumbai to claim that they are the work of "Al-Qaeda," despite clear and contradictory evidence suggesting otherwise"
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: David Rothscum November 27, 2008, 01:41:11 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hToe02xCuKeT7w1RQXD2r_cETOPg
Militants who attacked Mumbai came from Pakistan: army official

1 hour ago

MUMBAI (AFP) — Militants who staged multiple attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai, killing at least 125 people and injuring hundreds more, came from Pakistan, a senior military official said Thursday.

"They are from across the border and perhaps from Faridkot, Pakistan. They tried to pretend that they were from Hyderabad," Major General R.K. Hooda, leading the military operation to flush out the extremists, told reporters.

Speaking outside the Trident/Oberoi hotel, one of the two luxury hotels where guests were taken hostage, Hooda, army chief for the western Indian states of Maharashtra, Goa and Gujarat, said "one mujahedeen has been caught".

"He has been injured. We are interrogating him. From his language... he has a Punjabi kind of accent," he added.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh earlier said that the militants had come from "outside the country" -- a thinly-veiled reference to arch-rival and fellow nuclear-armed nation Pakistan.

He also warned in his televised address against "neighbours" who provide a haven to anti-India militants.

But Pakistan's defence minister immediately said his country had played no role in the attacks.

"In previous cases they have acted like this, but later it all proved wrong," Ahmed Mukhtar told AFP. "We are very much positive that Pakistan is not involved in this."

Pakistan's foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, in India for peace talks, also told the private Dawn television station that nobody should be blamed until investigations were complete.

"Our experience in the past tells us that we should not jump to conclusions," Qureshi said. "We should not go for a knee-jerk reaction."

India has in the past frequently accused Pakistan of backing Islamic militants active in India.

Militant Pakistani group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which is fighting Indian rule in Kashmir and is best known for an assault on the Indian parliament in 2001, also denied any involvement.

Gangs of heavily-armed men, claiming to be from a little-known group called the "Deccan Mujahedeen", opened fire and threw grenades at a number of locations across Mumbai, spreading fear and panic.

Hooda told reporters that one extremist was killed in a military operation to free an estimated 200 people trapped in the Trident/Oberoi. Five to six other militants were still inside, he added.

Some 49 people were rescued from the Trident/Oberoi on Thursday, Hooda said, while 50 people trapped inside the Taj were also brought to safety.

"They were not hostages because when we reached there, the militants had already left," he said.

In all, Hooda said there were "10 to 12 terrorists all over".
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:41:41 PM
This is what Watson wrote:

"The majority of the corporate media has gleefully seized upon the terror attacks in Mumbai to claim that they are the work of "Al-Qaeda," despite clear and contradictory evidence suggesting otherwise"
I said the headline was mis-leading, was it "media blames al queda" or something.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:43:27 PM
I said the headline was mis-leading, was it "media blames al queda" or something.

headline mentioned pakistan, not al-qaeda
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:44:20 PM
(http://freespeech.vo.llnwd.net/o25/pub/pp/images/november2008/261108top2.jpg)

Mumbai Attacks To Be Linked To Obama Target Pakistan?

Coordinated attacks across Mumbai, India’s financial capital, which have killed up to a hundred people and injured hundreds more, are likely to be blamed on a terrorist organization linked to the Pakistani ISI, providing further justification for controversial U.S. bombings inside Pakistani territory and heightened rhetoric against Pakistan on behalf of President elect Barack Obama.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/mumbai-attacks-to-be-linked-to-obama-target-pakistan.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/mumbai-attacks-to-be-linked-to-obama-target-pakistan.html)

All of his information is properly sourced and the target being Pakistan is now very obvious.

He was right on the money from the beginning.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:45:21 PM
headline mentioned pakistan, not al-qaeda
Headline:

Mumbai Attacks Blamed On Al-Qaeda As Pretext For U.S. Military Response
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:46:21 PM
Headline:

Mumbai Attacks Blamed On Al-Qaeda As Pretext For U.S. Military Response

link?
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: mrwise November 27, 2008, 01:48:26 PM
Folks,

TPTB have done this in India many times.  Here are two examples:

1.  The current Prime Minister might be a Sikh (blue turban guy), but the persona actually "elected" in the previous election was Sonia "Gandhi".  (wikipedia it).  She's not a Gandhi--none of those people are.  Indira Gandhi was the daughter of India's first Prime Minister (Nehru) and was 100% Indian.  She married (was made to marry) an Illuminati stooge:  Feroz Gandy (renamed Gandhi) ... swear to God--wikipedia it ... here's what it says:

"Feroze was born into a Parsi (Zoroastrian) Family in Allahabad.[1] Contrary to what most people believe, his family is not related to the family of Mahatma Gandhi. "  They had a son--another Indian Prime Minister (who I believe to be a good guy):  Rajiv "Gandhi."  Rajiv married the Vatican spy, Antonia Albina Maino, who renamed her name to 'Sonia Gandhi.'  And Sonia was "elected" to become India's Prime Minister!!  Unbelievable!!!!  She went behind the curtain and HANDPICKED Manmohan Singh to "become Prime Minister."  All run by the Jesuits.   Sonia "Gandhi" cannot speak a single word of ANY Indian language (not Hindi, not Urdu, not Bengali, NOTHING)--she reads off telepromters with the Latin script written phonetically.  She failed out of University -- I don't believe she even holds a bachelor's degree and had absolutely NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS -- not even Mayor of a tiny town like Wasilla -- before being "elected" Prime Minister.

2.  There was a terrorist stand-off situation between the then disgruntled Sikh community in India and the Center.  The "terrorist" of the Sikh group was a man named Bindranwale.  Guess where Bindranwale and his entire squad of thousands were tranined (?) ... at White Sands, New Mexico by the CIA.

How can the Indians be soooooooo blind?????????????

I mean--how stupid can Sheeple get?????????????
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: agentbluescreen November 27, 2008, 01:48:32 PM
Let's just remember this is the Breyzinski/MI6/CIA/Mossad/SIS Mafia's Muhjihadin Army of the Globalist Trazi Corporatists, and unlike the calm, conservative and peaceful Iran, they are nuclear armed....

Al CIAda is a bit of an oversimplification
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:48:55 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/mumbai-attacks-blamed-on-al-qaeda-as-pretext-for-us-military-response.html
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:50:48 PM
Headline:

Mumbai Attacks Blamed On Al-Qaeda As Pretext For U.S. Military Response

now I see it:

http://www.infowars.com/?p=6212

But again, that was the information coming out. The information in the article all checks out, but it looks like the G7 is trying to stay away from the stigma that al-qaeda has and backing off the links to al-qaeda.  This is a recent development because they know there is not a chance of a connection.

This also as pointed out earlier will allow more incursions and escalations into pakistan.

I think they also may be staying away from the words al-qaeda now because Bush created the false connection with Iraq, and Obama's agenda has nothing to do with Iraq yet.

They are targeting pakistan, no doubt about it.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 01:51:04 PM
One thing we need to keep in mind what kind of terrorists use stun grenades and rdx military explosives ;)
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: Brocke November 27, 2008, 01:54:14 PM

If you are deliberately sinking your Anglo-American financial ship and the Indian financial ship is still afloat. How do you keep investors from jumping your ship and swimming over to the "safer" Indian ship. Answer, punch a few holes in the hull of the Indian ship.




Attacks may be stern test for shaky India markets
Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:26am EST

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKTRE4AQ2G720081127?virtualBrandChannel=10112&sp=true

By Narayanan Somasundaram and Vidya Ranganathan

MUMBAI/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - The initial investor reaction to the Mumbai attacks suggests they expect India's traditionally resilient markets to take a bigger hit from this turmoil than from previous episodes in the city's violent history.

With financial and commodity markets shut after gunmen killed 101 people, the only inkling of damage to sentiment came from a rise in India's risk premium on international credit markets and a drop in offshore Indian stock and rupee futures.

The central bank said it would continue auctions to keep cash flowing through interbank lending markets, which seized up after the global financial crisis destroyed Wall Street banks in September.

Mumbai is no stranger to political violence and markets have usually regarded previous bombings and other attacks with a degree of nonchalance. Wednesday's attacks though will put an additional strain on nerves frayed by global financial turmoil and a tide of cash pouring out of Indian assets.

"Everyone is just hoping that it will be one of the short-lived episodes," said ING chief Asian economist Tim Condon.

"People have seen this before although this is on an order of magnitude worse than what we have seen. That makes the usual comfortable assumption less comfortable, this Pakistanisation of Indian financial markets," he said.

The capital markets regulator said the Bombay Stock Exchange and National Stock Exchange will be closed on Thursday as security forces battled militants who held hostages in two luxury Mumbai hotels.

Coming at a time when foreigners have been heavy sellers of Indian assets, the attacks raised fears of a steeper fall in the rupee and a further blow to market confidence.

"Clearly, it will be negative for the sentiment toward India at this point of time, the time when the world is already looking to be highly uncertain in term of its growth prospects," said Joseph Tan, chief Asian economist at Credit Suisse in Singapore.

"When the equity market actually opens, it could probably be opening down as opposed to the rest of Asia."

As traffic ground to a halt in south Mumbai, where the central bank and several financial institutions are located, it appeared the earliest indications of how deep those concerns run would be known only on Friday.

Trading in offshore rupee forwards was thin but suggested the rupee could drop 1.6 percent within a month, more bearish than Wednesday's pricing of a 0.7 percent depreciation.

The risk premium for top Indian lender State Bank of India rose. The state-owned bank is a proxy in the debt market for the government, which has no sovereign bonds outstanding.

Credit default swaps, which are insurance-like contracts, on the bank's five year bonds widened 20 basis points to 440 basis points after the attacks.

Indian stock index futures fell 4 percent in Singapore trade at their weakest, pointing to a likely steep fall in domestic shares.

On Wednesday, the 50-share NSE index gained 3.7 percent. India's main 30-share BSE index ended up 3.8 percent. The rupee ended trading at 49.48 per dollar.

"As the situation calms down, these attacks might be viewed as an isolated event," said Mumbai-based Amit Khurana, head of equities at the Indian unit of British broker Collins Stewart.

UNFORTUNATE TIMING
When suburban train bombings killed 180 people in Mumbai in 2006, the rupee barely blipped while the Bombay stock index fell 1.8 percent but then rallied.

There have been four bombings prior to Wednesday's attack this year.

The stock index is already down 55 percent this year -- Asia's fourth worst performer -- after having seen $13.5 billion of portfolio outflows from a market with a capitalization of $266 billion.

The rupee figures among the weakest currencies in Asia this year alongside the Indonesian rupiah and Korean won, having dropped 20 percent against the dollar owing to capital outflows and a withdrawal of foreign credit lines from riskier markets.

"This means that capital outflows will have a greater impact than they did in the past, though history suggests that any reaction to terrorist attacks in Mumbai will only be temporary," Nikhilesh Bhattacharya, an economist with Moody's Economy, said in a note.

Mark Matthews, chief Asian strategist at Merrill Lynch, said this was also the time analysts were downgrading their forecasts for Indian corporate earnings rather dramatically.

"That will continue to be a drag on the market because Indian analysts are behind the curve on earnings relative to the rest of Asia," Matthews said.

Slowing growth and uncertainty about upcoming general elections in 2009 would also weigh down the market, at least until March, he reckons. Merrill predicts the index price-earnings ratio will drop to 9.1 in 2009 from 10.1 now.

Currency analysts expect the rupee will weaken sharply when it opens for trading on Friday, but they also suspect any weakness will be knee-jerk and fleeting and that the central bank will jump to its defense as it always has in volatile spells.

"Such terrorist attacks do not have a lasting impact on the market -- I don't think it will have a lasting impact on India," said Credit Suisse's Tan.

(Additional reporting by Kevin Yao, Rafael Nam and Anshuman Daga; Writing by Vidya Ranganathan, Editing by Dayan Candappa)
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:54:53 PM
SANE , Webster Tarpley had it 100% correct do you listen to his show?. Al Queda is a dead duck, as he says. They need a new boogie man, the war on Al Queda is done, they need something new here. He also said Cheney and Bush are lame ducks and are running nothing anymore.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 01:57:19 PM
That article is accurate also, they are trying to sabatoge the other financial powers to level the playing field, though i think this is more of a move against pakistan then an Economic move.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:58:18 PM
Articles supporting the BS al-qaeda crap:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/USA/Mumbai_terror_attacks_has_al-Qaeda_hallmarks_UK_US_experts/articleshow/3766575.cms
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/al-qaeda-could-be-behind-mumbai-strikes-british-experts_100124234.html

But it looks like they are going after Pakistan Muslims not connected to al-CIA-duh:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shuja-nawaz/maximum-terror-in-mumbai_b_146903.html

They are using the craziest logic to justify an obvious G7 attack.

No one country could have done this.  Also no conglomerate could have done this without inside help.

The scapegoats may be pakistan, al-qaeda, even hindu extremists but the victims are not in question...

Anyone against NWO/G7 reign of terror.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 01:59:53 PM
SANE , Webster Tarpley had it 100% correct do you listen to his show?. Al Queda is a dead duck, as he says. They need a new boogie man, the war on Al Queda is done, they need something new here. He also said Cheney and Bush are lame ducks and are running nothing anymore.

Yeah it is all here (posted just above):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shuja-nawaz/maximum-terror-in-mumbai_b_146903.html

They do need new boogie men I agree, but they are all false.

This was an NWO/G7 false flag operation no matter who the media keeps blaming.
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: agentbluescreen November 27, 2008, 02:04:47 PM

How can the Indians be soooooooo blind?????????????

I mean--how stupid can Sheeple get?????????????

Well look at all the dupes who voted for McCain and Obama...

Money purchases government, IMHO all political advertising other than certified Platform Statements should be made criminal and illegal.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:04:49 PM
More on the financial implications/financial issues with G& and India: http://news.moneycontrol.com/india/news/economy/the-road-ahead-for-india/11/34/366764
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:06:38 PM
More on the need of the G7 to break up BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China):

BRIC nations call for a new global financial order news   
http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldeconomy/20081110_bric.html
10 November 2008   

   

Mumbai: The `BRIC' nations of Brazil, Russia, India and China have called for a major revamp of the current global financial system and have sought a rightful place for the four fastest growing economies in the world's financial system.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

clever use of wording in the headline.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:12:32 PM
This looks more and more like a G7 attack on BRIC.  Just look at all the motives:


Its time for the bankrupt G7-cabal to ask for a pimped up G10 Meeting including the rich BRIC countries
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article17569
October 11,  2008 (12h34)


How can the cause of the global financial crash, the bankrupt G7-US-vassal-states, want to credibly assure the global financial problem to be solved?

The global investor confidence can only be reclaimed if solvent countries such as Russia (repaid its total foreign debt recently) and heavy weights such as China, India and Brazil, in the negotiations carried out.

A global problem can only be solved globally. The sooner this, the arrogant Western high finance recognizes, the better for all of us.

A pimped up G10 with BRIC countries (Brazil, Russia, India and China) would solve the global financial problem within a useful period.

How long we let the Fed and its warmongers playing "trial and error" without being able to come up with an credible solution to solve the global financial crisis?

To involve Brazil, Russia, India and China, it means that the US is not anymore able to handle the financial crisis by its own, and that means also, that the US lost its superpower status, and therefore they are trying to reorganize their collapsing system by their own, which is impossible to do, they want to solve the global crisis by means of local methods, and this will fail poorly as we all will realise pretty soon.

Its time now for the bankrupt US-led-G7-cabal to beg for help with a pimped up G10 Meeting including the rich and powerful BRIC countries

Just my 2 cents from Switzerland

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More... http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?mot53

GEAB N°29: Phase IV of the Global Systemic crisis: Breakdown of the Global Monetary System by summer 2009
Monday November 24 2008 - 00:47 - By : Solve et Coagula

GEAB N°29: Phase IV of the Global Systemic crisis: Breakdown of the Global Monetary System by summer 2009
November 17, 2008
The G20-meeting held in Washington on November 14/15, 2008, is in its essence a historical indicator that the Western - above all Anglo-Saxon - monopoly on global economic and financial governance, is coming to an end. Nevertheless, according to LEAP/E2020, this meeting also clearly demonstrated that this kind of summits is doomed to inefficiency because they (...)

Sarah Rimmington: “Rich Countries Created this Crisis!” (Video)
Sunday November 16 2008 - 16:03 - By : William Hughes

By William Hughes

On Saturday, Nov. 15, 2008, a demonstration protesting the “Summit on Financial Markets, G20,” was held in Washington, D.C., Activist and attorney, Sarah Rimmington, was one of the individuals voicing her outrage about the $700 billion Bailout of the Wall Street bankers and fat cats by the taxpayers.

She said: “It’s the rich counties that created this crisis.” They are now acting, “as the gatekeepers to the money...The poor countries don’t’ even have a seat at the table...We want to see this process opened up to the global community and the trade unions...They [the police authorities] are not letting the people come and protest here.” Ms. Rimmington is associated with the Global Justice Action group.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:12:42 PM
The way I see it though is they shot themselves in the foot, its too big of an op with well armed and organized personell they have made no demands have good equipment and are holding up pretty good against counter-terrorism commandos either their well trained or the commandos suck which i doubt it.
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: Brocke November 27, 2008, 02:14:42 PM
Now we got 6 out of the 7 G7 countries with hostages/casualties.

Soon they will mention an Italian.  Then the G7 will bring order to their planned chaos.

Mumbai: Italian killed in attacks

Seven others still trapped in besieged hotel


(ANSA) - Rome, November 27 - The Italian foreign ministry on Thursday confirmed that an Italian national was among those killed in Wednesday's terrorist attacks in the Indian commercial capital of Mumbai.

The Italian victim was identified as Antonio De Lorenzo and he is believed to have been killed by a hand-grenade explosion...

http://www.ansa.it/site/notizie/awnplus/english/news/2008-11-27_127287161.html
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:15:26 PM

If you are deliberately sinking your Anglo-American financial ship and the Indian financial ship is still afloat. How do you keep investors from jumping your ship and swimming over to the "safer" Indian ship. Answer, punch a few holes in the hull of the Indian ship.



Way to keep your eye on the ball!

This was a military attack on a country that poses a financial threat to the planned G7 worldwide depression!

The scapegoat is Pakistan, but this was an attack on a more secure financial market then what the G7 has created.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 02:16:13 PM
This is what the G7 or, mainly Britain and Netherlands who do not produce any goods want:

http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/11/11/lpactv-food-crisis.html
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:18:58 PM
More information on the planned worldwide economic depression by the G7.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article4476.html


This was an attack on the financial district of a BRIC country by the G7.

If it was an attack on US/UK, why not target the embassies?

If it was an attack on jews why not attack a temple as the central target or a jewish village?

THIS WAS A FINANCIAL ATTACK, SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE FINANCIAL HEART OF INDIA!
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:22:26 PM
Israelli team leaves for munbai - http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074391&ch=633634299075957500 and the sanitation of the area begins  :o
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:24:54 PM
Israelli team leaves for munbai - http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074391&ch=633634299075957500 and the sanitation of the area begins  :o

leaves for mumbai, or comes back from mumbai? ; )

Anyway CNN still says, what was the motive of this attack?

Duh, stop people from using the financial district of a BRIC nation.

How stupid do they think we are?

Mumbai is the financial center, not the political center.

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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 02:25:36 PM
Israelli team leaves for munbai - http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074391&ch=633634299075957500 and the sanitation of the area begins  :o

righteous, sending in more mossad agents dressed as medics is a very unique way to get the job finished and clear up any potential evidence. good find
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:26:41 PM
CNN reporting: India who has never wanted US help in investigations before is now asking for US help.

god help the people of India.  The US investigated 9/11, look what happened after 7 years.

Total bankruptcy.

This is a financial attack.
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: David Rothscum November 27, 2008, 02:27:20 PM
More on the need of the G7 to break up BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China):

BRIC nations call for a new global financial order news   
http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldeconomy/20081110_bric.html
10 November 2008   

   

Mumbai: The `BRIC' nations of Brazil, Russia, India and China have called for a major revamp of the current global financial system and have sought a rightful place for the four fastest growing economies in the world's financial system.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

clever use of wording in the headline.
Indeed, there's great power struggle going on in every point in history, and our time is no exception (although in Brzezinski's and Biden's eyes the only reason we have great powers that threaten their empire is because Bush didn't do enough to counter the rise of these new influential countries).

Some information for those interested:

The plan to break up Russia and China:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=58647.0

The financial crisis is a war by our elite against the elite of Russia and China:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=65616.0
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:28:45 PM
righteous, sending in more mossad agents dressed as medics is a very unique way to get the job finished and clear up any potential evidence. good find

Mossad/MI6/FBI/CIA/SAS will conduct "Operation Clean Sweep" for the next few weeks.
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: Brocke November 27, 2008, 02:29:04 PM
Way to keep your eye on the ball!

This was a military attack on a country that poses a financial threat to the planned G7 worldwide depression!

The scapegoat is Pakistan, but this was an attack on a more secure financial market then what the G7 has created.

India's market will be among the first to recover: Sebi chief
23 Nov 2008, 0318 hrs IST, TNN

NEW DELHI: Stock market regulator Security and Exchange Board of India (Sebi) may introduce measures to restrict over-leveraged hedge funds in order to bring in more stability to the volatile market.

Speaking at a seminar in the Capital on Saturday, Sebi chairman C B Bhave said that "where the system is getting over-leveraged and the risk becomes too great, we must intervene and bring it down to ensure it does not lead to systemic risks." He said there is nothing to worry as the Indian stocks would be the first to bounce back in this global meltdown...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/India_Business/Indias_market_will_be_among_the_first_to_recover_Sebi_chief/articleshow/3746234.cms
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 02:29:54 PM
This is kinda weird...

PressTV Iran... another 'al qaeda' article.???

'Qaeda-linked gunmen attacked Mumbai'

Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:05:38 GMT
Al-Qaeda-linked militants have run the recent terrorist campaign in India's Mumbai killing over 120 people, says Russian intelligence official.

"Russian secret services have information suggesting that the groups that attacked Mumbai had had contact with al-Qaeda…. In particular the terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba." RIA Novosti quoted the intelligence source as saying.

"This group's militants undergo special training in al-Qaeda camps on the border between Pakistan and India, " the report said.

The Wednesday's attacks across the Indian port city also injured more than 300 people.

Nine foreign nationals were among the dead - including a Japanese businessman, an Australian and an Italian.

The group, which defies the Indian rule in Kashmir, has however, denied any involvement.

HN/RA

Russians blaming al qaeda? Iran reporting that? I don't get it. !
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 02:31:35 PM
Russia is against their Free Trade system so they are a target - anyone else who is against it is a target as well. The Free Trade system is a keynsian population reduction system in which you work till you cannot work anymore then you are killed in one way or another. China bought a 1/5 stake in Evilyn De Rothschild a few months ago, so i do not know what they are up to. Brazil is also turning down the Free Trade system and dumping dollars / other currencies while protecting their own.

Anyone who dare protect their currency and population will get false flagged to hell.

I am sure after the smoke settles we will find some people in India were assassinated that were opponents of Free Trade
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:32:15 PM
This is kinda weird...

PressTV Iran... another 'al qaeda' article.???

Russians blaming al qaeda? Iran reporting that? I don't get it. !

everyone now knows al-qaeda is CIA/other intelligence.

perhaps this is a message that Russia/Iran know this was a G7 attack
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: IridiumKEPfactor November 27, 2008, 02:34:55 PM
everyone now knows al-qaeda is CIA/other intelligence.

perhaps this is a message that Russia/Iran know this was a G7 attack

(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2059246/2/istockphoto_2059246_hitting_a_nail_on_the_head.jpg)
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
everyone now knows al-qaeda is CIA/other intelligence.

perhaps this is a message that Russia/Iran know this was a G7 attack

Maybe so, maybe so... It's just the first time ever that I have heard Russians blaming al qaeda for anything, let alone acknowledging their existence.. in fact you're probably right... makes much more sense than russia actually buying into 'al qaeda' as a real, organised organisation in a cave!
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: mrwise November 27, 2008, 02:36:00 PM
This is going to be psychologically difficult to overcome.  Just as the image of the twin towers became ETCHED in the minds of Americans, so too will the Taj in the minds of Indians.  You always see this hotel in the movies, it's one of those "go-to" shots for any country (Great Wall of China, Eiffel Tower, Statue of Liberty, Big Ben, The Taj Hotel).  Every time someone goes to mumbai, the memories of all the bullshit the mainstream media is spewing will come racing back.

This was an attack by TPTB on India's attempt at being financially independent, and exercising an independant foreign policy, but also on the World's psychology--on all of us.  Here's what we'll think everytime we see Apu on the Simpsons or Kelly on 'The Office' or Dr. Sanjay Gupta, etc:

Taj fires --> f*ckin terrorists --> International Cancer --> Give Gov't whatever they need to go kill whoever they want.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 02:38:28 PM
They are saying that this is India's 9/11.

How true, how true.

They are going to bankrupt everyone and leave no safe haven for any investor wishing to bipass the G7.

BTW, anyone looking into the insider trading of Mumbai markets?

My guess is Deutche Bank with CIA ties.
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:46:44 PM
Ndtv - "Terrorists who struck Mumbai had set up advance "Control Rooms" in the luxury Taj and Trident (Oberoi) hotels which was also targeted and did prior reconnaissance executing plans worked "over months", Union Cabinet minister Kapil Sibal said on Thursday night.

Sibal said the unprecedented terror attack in the country's financial capital was planned "over months" and the terrorists were not carrying AK-47 rifles but sophisticated weapons like MP-6." <--- think they meant mp5s

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074383

there are pictures of two of them with ak47s but those were the ones from the train station maybe they were more expendable and the ones at the hotels better equiped? so we have them well equiped with mp5s and rdx explosives and coming in zodiacs ummm this is military gear  :o
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: David Rothscum November 27, 2008, 02:53:15 PM
Ndtv - "Terrorists who struck Mumbai had set up advance "Control Rooms" in the luxury Taj and Trident (Oberoi) hotels which was also targeted and did prior reconnaissance executing plans worked "over months", Union Cabinet minister Kapil Sibal said on Thursday night.

Sibal said the unprecedented terror attack in the country's financial capital was planned "over months" and the terrorists were not carrying AK-47 rifles but sophisticated weapons like MP-6." <--- think they meant mp5s

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074383

there are pictures of two of them with ak47s but those were the ones from the train station maybe they were more expendable and the ones at the hotels better equiped? so we have them well equiped with mp5s and rdx explosives and coming in zodiacs ummm this is military gear  :o
Did I read that right? Control rooms inside the hotels? Next thing you know they'll tell us the 19 hijackers had set up a control room inside the Pentagon.
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: Brocke November 27, 2008, 02:56:52 PM
Stocks, bonds and currencies trading were halted in Mumbai

India’s Index Futures, Rupee Forwards Fall After Terror Attacks

By Chen Shiyin and Pooja Thakur

Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- India’s stock index futures and rupee forwards fell while credit-default swaps rose after militants killed 101 people in Mumbai, taking hostages in the nation’s first terrorist attack against foreigners.

S&P CNX Nifty Index futures for November delivery dropped 2.4 percent in Singapore, the most since Nov. 19. Contracts that protect against the debt of government-controlled State Bank of India Ltd. rose 15 basis points to 412.5 in Hong Kong, according to Morgan Stanley’s prices, the first increase since Nov. 20, while forwards on the currency that trade outside the country fell 0.3 percent, the first drop in five days.

Stocks, bonds and currencies trading were halted in Mumbai after the assault, which injured 287. The attacks may hurt investor confidence in a country where the global economic slowdown caused the benchmark Bombay Stock Exchange Sensitive Index or Sensex to fall a record 56 percent this year.

“It is worrying that the targets were foreigners and businessmen,” said Ajay Bodke, who helps manage the equivalent of $872 million at IDFC Assets Management Co. in Mumbai. “We will see a ripple effect in terms of investor sentiment as the terrorist attack was in the financial hub and in iconic places. India needs to deal with this with an iron hand.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aBvKOzwg5SAs&refer=home



India attacks shake up Michigan relatives

BY NIRAJ WARIKOO • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER • November 27, 2008

...India and Detroit also have close automotive ties, and Detroit's automakers have invested in India's market...



Growth Industries in India in spite of the Global Recession:
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: mrwise November 27, 2008, 02:57:18 PM
Did I read that right? Control rooms inside the hotels? Next thing you know they'll tell us the 19 hijackers had set up a control room inside the Pentagon.

I wonder if their passports fell out of their pockets as they were raiding the hotels (lying on the road in pristine condition).
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
Ya you read it right, not that hard to do if they rented rooms inside the hotel a day before or something and then carry the equipment in backpacks or suitcases, the point is its looking like these guys are insanely organized.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 02:57:39 PM
Ndtv - "Terrorists who struck Mumbai had set up advance "Control Rooms" in the luxury Taj and Trident (Oberoi) hotels which was also targeted and did prior reconnaissance executing plans worked "over months", Union Cabinet minister Kapil Sibal said on Thursday night.

Sibal said the unprecedented terror attack in the country's financial capital was planned "over months" and the terrorists were not carrying AK-47 rifles but sophisticated weapons like MP-6." <--- think they meant mp5s

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074383

there are pictures of two of them with ak47s but those were the ones from the train station maybe they were more expendable and the ones at the hotels better equiped? so we have them well equiped with mp5s and rdx explosives and coming in zodiacs ummm this is military gear  :o
The minute i heard STENs were confiscated from terrorists i knew it was MI6 and Mossad.
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 02:57:50 PM
Well if there was indeed a control room or two, it shouldn't be too hard to find out who was renting those rooms using the hotel's records.

I'm willing to bet any CCTV or guest records will be 'destroyed' in the fire..
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: Baihuigau November 27, 2008, 03:02:25 PM
Ahh but im sure their using stollen credit cards.
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: Brocke November 27, 2008, 03:04:04 PM
Mumbai Markets Poised For Fall
Vidya Ram , 11.27.08, 12:15 PM EST
Expect Indian markets to open lower on Friday as militant attacks continue in the city's financial capital.

Any hopes that the Indian stock market had finally hit its bottom were dashed on Thursday after militant attacks rocked Mumbai and left at least 104 people dead. Shares on the Bombay Stock Exchange are poised for a fall when trading re-commences on Friday.

The exchange, as well as other major bourses including the National Stock Exchange and the currency exchange, was suspended Thursday as the attack on the city continued. SGX CNX Nifty Index futures for November delivery closed down 2.3% at 2,685.0 points in Singapore on Thursday...
http://www.forbes.com/markets/2008/11/27/india-outlook-friday-markets-equity-cx_vr_1127markets10a.html
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 03:04:21 PM
Also.. I think Sane is right about the BRIC target... straight from wikipedia...

"The acronym BRIC was first coined and prominently used by the bank holding company Goldman Sachs in 2001.[1][2] Goldman Sachs argued that, since they are developing rapidly, by 2050 the combined economies of the BRICs could eclipse the combined economies of the current richest countries of the world."

"Goldman Sachs argues that the economic potential of Brazil, Russia, India, and China is such that they may become among the four most dominant economies by the year 2050. The thesis was proposed by Jim O'Neill, global economist at Goldman Sachs.[6] These countries encompass over twenty-five percent of the world's land coverage, forty percent of the world's population and hold a combined GDP (PPP) of 15.435 trillion dollars. On almost every scale, they would be the largest entity on the global stage. These four countries are among the biggest and fastest growing Emerging Markets."

Well well well! A threat to the Goldman Sachs behind-the-scenes club! who would have guessed that name would crop up?


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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 03:06:15 PM
Mission accomplished - Avert Market Collapse

DOW 8,726.61   +247.14 (+2.91%) 
 
 NASDAQ 1,532.10   +67.37 (+4.60%) 
 
 S&P 500 887.68   +30.29 (+3.53%) 
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 03:13:25 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Europe-shares-gain-ground/story.aspx?guid=%7B89B8826B%2D3E06%2D4D05%2DB8F4%2D87AFB0D3B650%7D

Europe (London) stocks skyrocket on Indian attack on coincidental thanksgiving U.S. Holiday. So, is it the CIA or MI6? Yea MI6

Banks and oils boost Europe on U.S. holiday
Daimler and Renault also advance; Air Berlin shares soar
By Sarah Turner, MarketWatch
Last update: 12:21 p.m. EST Nov. 27, 2008Comments: 228LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Oil majors and banks paced an advance for European shares on Thursday, a day when U.S. markets were closed for the Thanksgiving Day holiday. ........................
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:13:35 PM
G7 attack on BRIC with innocent civilians as collateral damage.

G7 needs their New World Order by consent or by force!
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:16:31 PM
Ndtv - "Terrorists who struck Mumbai had set up advance "Control Rooms" in the luxury Taj and Trident (Oberoi) hotels which was also targeted and did prior reconnaissance executing plans worked "over months", Union Cabinet minister Kapil Sibal said on Thursday night.

Sibal said the unprecedented terror attack in the country's financial capital was planned "over months" and the terrorists were not carrying AK-47 rifles but sophisticated weapons like MP-6." <--- think they meant mp5s

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074383

there are pictures of two of them with ak47s but those were the ones from the train station maybe they were more expendable and the ones at the hotels better equiped? so we have them well equiped with mp5s and rdx explosives and coming in zodiacs ummm this is military gear  :o

This is worse than Cheney giving stand down orders.

How is this not an inside job, WTF?
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
NeoCon hacks jump all over story:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/India-attacks-a-reminder-challenges/story.aspx?guid=%7BD6A5E0F1%2DA8B4%2D48B6%2DBA62%2D5BD9DD00E1F1%7D

India attacks show terrorism still top issue
Commentary: Economic woes pale in comparison to security fearsBy David Callaway, MarketWatch
Last update: 5:38 p.m. EST Nov. 26, 2008Comments: 330SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The horrific terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India, barely cast a shadow over the euphoria on Wall Street Wednesday over the first four-day rally in stocks in six months. But they are an ominous reminder that the challenges facing Barack Obama's new team go far beyond renegade derivatives traders.
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: spangler November 27, 2008, 03:19:18 PM
This is going to be psychologically difficult to overcome.  Just as the image of the twin towers became ETCHED in the minds of Americans, so too will the Taj in the minds of Indians.

Funny you mention that.  The IT Examiner is comparing the burning Taj to the WTC.

Taj flames like World Trade Center
http://www.itexaminer.com/taj-flames-like-world-trade-center.aspx

They're also reporting that the attacks are blamed on Al-Quaeda
http://www.itexaminer.com/al-qaeda-blamed-for-mumbai-outrages.aspx
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 03:22:36 PM
Funny you mention that.  The IT Examiner is comparing the burning  Taj to the WTC

Taj flames like World Trade Center
http://www.itexaminer.com/taj-flames-like-world-trade-center.aspx

They're also reporting that the attacks are blamed on Al-Quaeda
http://www.itexaminer.com/al-qaeda-blamed-for-mumbai-outrages.aspx

An Indian news outlet had the headline "India's 9-11"
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: spangler November 27, 2008, 03:24:43 PM

An Indian news outlet had the headline "India's 9-11"

They're really reaching. Which outlet was that btw?
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
Interesting report... Why do they need Mossad/FBI/SAS to investigate?

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/cctvs-at-cst-taj-can-nail-mumbai-terrorists/00/41/341573/

This can help the police nail them.Mumbai is no stranger to technology like CCTVs and metal detectors. Security firms like Zicom, Honeywell, Siemens and Godrej have installed surveillance equipment to cover the city with virtual eyes (CCTVs) that observe and record round the clock. The entire 30 km stretch from CST (formerly Victoria Terminus) to Thane has CCTVs.

Zicom, on its part, has installed 820 CCTVs covering the entire stretch of Churchgate to Virar (around 60 km). It has installed around 100 CCTVs at all traffic signals in Mumbai (cost only around Rs 4 crore). Besides famous temples like Siddhivinayak in Dadar have CCTVs too.

The cost to the government is not prohibitive. The Churgate-Virar belt installation, for instance, was not expensive since the equipment was installed by Zicom for which it did not charge the government. The state government pays around Rs 11 lakh per month as service fees.

However, the coastal area is very poorly protected when it comes to technology surveillance. Security experts said this is because the government considers it “a wasteful expenditure, and wakes up when terrorist attacks happen only to forget it a few days later”.

For instance, Mumbaiites got an SMS minutes after the terrorists fled in two vehicles with registration plates MH01 ZA102 and MH01 BA5179. “If anyone sees these vehicles, please call the police on 100”, the SMS read. The authorities should go much beyond this simple use of technology, security experts suggested.

“Why not imitate the American experience of technology surveillance?” asked internet security expert and Ficci security committee head Vijay Mukhi. He notes that all airports in the US can detect an unattented bag in a little under five minutes while a whole bag of arms gets into the Taj and the Oberoi hotels undetected.

“India hardly spends anything on electronic surveillance. We should increase our spend to thwart such incidents,” he asserts.

The security industy, meanwhile, is requesting the government to create legislation so that security becomes mandatory, according to Pramoud Rao, President of the Fire and Safety Association of Industries (FSAI) and MD of Zicom.

FSAI has around 350 security firms as its members. The government could also lower the prices of surveillance equipment by giving the security industry tax sops on the lines of the US and Chinese governments.
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 03:25:42 PM
CNN just reported on the control rooms in the Taj and Oiberon hotels too, citing a minister talking on Indian TV - he also said they were carrying hi-tech MP-6's not AK47's. Also said the 'terrorists' were dropped off by a mother ship and then got to shore by small powered dingyboats...
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: David Rothscum November 27, 2008, 03:26:05 PM
Ya you read it right, not that hard to do if they rented rooms inside the hotel a day before or something and then carry the equipment in backpacks or suitcases, the point is its looking like these guys are insanely organized.
Terrorists set up control rooms in two different top notch hotels safe enough for MEP's to spend their night there, and nobody notices anything while they bring in guns and explosives? No roomservice, cleaning personnel, security personnel, camera's, nothing?
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: jeremiah November 27, 2008, 03:27:47 PM
The Pakistan Daily says India should get its own house in order before blaming its neighbours.
Apparently the so called Muslim terrorists left behind an ID card and a cell phone with a SIM card originating in a 'neighbouring' country.
Shades of 9/11.

See:-
http://www.daily.pk/politics/politicalnews/8352-the-mumbai-drama.html
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 03:29:11 PM
Terrorists set up control rooms in two different top notch hotels safe enough for MEP's to spend their night there, and nobody notices anything while they bring in guns and explosives? No roomservice, cleaning personnel, security personnel, camera's, nothing?

And coastguards carching multiple powerboats coming inland, dropped off by a mother ship?

this whole thing is f**king intense
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: Brocke November 27, 2008, 03:29:48 PM
They are saying that this is India's 9/11.

How true, how true.

They are going to bankrupt everyone and leave no safe haven for any investor wishing to bipass the G7.

BTW, anyone looking into the insider trading of Mumbai markets?

My guess is Deutche Bank with CIA ties.

I'm getting a weird "blip" on my mental radar when it comes to Copper and the India market. No solid leads just yet.

Copper will be the next metal of choice once gold and silver are all dried up.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:30:22 PM
More G7 terrorism against BRIC Nations Motive (they compare BRIC to a pandemic, WTF?):

Will the BRIC nations spread a new Yellow Fever?
http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Will-the-BRIC-nations-spread-a-new-Yellow-Fever-12037-3-1.html
2008-10-06 15:30:00


MUMBAI: What will happen if Brazil, Russia,India, China (BRIC) nations with huge foreign exchange plan to diversify their foreign exhange reserves and reduce their holdings in dollar-denominated assets?

The chances are that money could flow into gold and gold will turn bullish. Brazil, Russia, India and China have accumulated huge foreign exchange reserves over the years. With the future of US dollar uncertain and likely to depreciate further, gold could be the beneficiary, according to a report by Quantum Gold Fund.

If Bric nations allocate one percent of their foreign exchange assets to gold, that would create an additional demand for 1000 tonnes of gold which is sufficient to turn the gold market bullish.

Already various reports suggest that US financial crisis has had far reaching impact all over the globe.

“Governments across the globe can print currencies at will, in an attempt to tide over current problems they face. These can give temporary relief. But is it a long term solution? Definitely not. However, Gold is the only asset which cannot be produced in the desired quantities at will. Gold has an intrinsic value and is widely accepted as a monetary asset. Hence under these circumstances, Gold would certainly be a preferred asset for diversification by the BRIC Countries or for that matter by all kinds of investors across the globe,” Quantum Gold Fund said in its report.

As per the data available for the first quarter of 2008, only 1.6% of the total foreign exchange reserves of BRIC countries was invested in Gold. Foreign exchange reserves of the BRIC Countries stood at US Dollar 2.7 trillion at the end of the first quarter of 2008..

If BRIC countries diversify their assets into gold, many other countries can also be expected to follow a similar trend and increase allocations of their foreign exchange reserves to Gold.

The annual fresh supply of Gold from mines across the world is less than 2,500 tonnes per annum. Besides, no significant Gold discoveries have been made during this decade. The demand for Gold in 2007 was around 3,500 tonnes. Central banks who have been making up for the shortfall have been seen selling lesser and lesser each year, over the past few years.

What would a 5% additional diversification by BRIC countries do to Gold demand? - an additional demand for 5,000 tonnes of Gold. Imagine the impact on Gold Prices.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:33:25 PM
More evidence of G7 motive:

Indian service firms most bullish among BRIC nations on growth
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/indian-service-firms-most-bullish-among-bric-nations-on-growth/312326/


NEW DELHI, MAY 20, 2008 : Despite the concerns triggered by the US economic slowdown that India’s service sector growth would decelerate, the country’s service providers continue to remain more bullish about expansion prospects than those of any other BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) nation. Over 60 per cent service providers, the highest proportion among the four BRIC countries, expect an increase in levels of business activity in the coming year, according to a KPMG survey on service sector firms. This buoyancy is expected to be supported by an strong rise in volumes of incoming new business. Approximately 56 per cent of all Indian service providers forecast an increase in new work, while none expect a fall.

Revenues too are set to rise markedly, they feel, underpinned by increase in marketing activity, the introduction of new products and entry into new markets. Despite widespread concerns over intensifying competitive pressures in the sector, around 58 per cent of companies expect revenue growth during the coming year. Profitability too is predicted to remain healthy, with 58 per cent of firms anticipating higher gains.Interestingly, despite the rising interest rate scenario in the country, the majority of Indian companies (54 per cent) surveyed said that the current cost of credit is not higher compared to the condition prior to the US financial market turmoil that started last summer. The availability of credit too has not altered, the companies said, with half of them reporting no change in capital availability.

The biggest threat to business revenues for Indian firms is competition, they said. A resounding 77 per cent of Indian service companies said that the factor they are most weary of is competitive pressure, whereas over 9 per cent cited deteriorating market and economic conditions as factors to watch out for.

Among BRIC countries in general, too, competition was seen to be the most serious threat to revenues, with 22.5 per cent of firms listing it as their number one worry. Other threats to revenues for BRIC countries as a whole were expected to come from increased input costs (18.6 per cent) and deteriorating economic/ market conditions (16.6 per cent).
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:37:27 PM
G7 mission being accomplished:

Scheduled interview with CEO of South African Investment firm during crisi:

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mw/view/mw/en/page55?oid=237865&sn=Detail

ALEC HOGG: Martyn, from a South African perspective, many South African companies do have investments in India. We spoke earlier with Julian Roberts who thinks "this too shall pass". What should South African businessmen be doing?

MARTYN DAVIES: Well, we are seeing companies that you mention, Sanlam, FirstRand Group, Old Mutual, building significant businesses in India. We have in recent years the notion of BRIC economies. We seem to neglect political risk in these high-growth BRIC economies, and I think this is a stark reminder that especially in India and other countries, like Russia perhaps, political risk is still very, very prevalent despite high growth rates. We should not be complacent by ignoring risk in these markets. I think many South Africans will look at this and it's quite a shock, obviously. What happened in the terrorist attacks in Delhi in September and October the market has largely shrugged off. I think this is far more serious, far more violent attacks, far more pervasive and strikes at the heart of the business centre of India.

ALEC HOGG: And the knock-on effects?

MARTYN DAVIES: Look, the market is obviously closed tomorrow in India. Tomorrow I think there'll be some serious damage done to the stock exchange in the ... markets in India. I think the longer term impact will be Brand India has been damaged as the leading emerging market economy, and I think this is very, very serious. And when South African businesses are looking at do we go to India, do we go to China - I think that question will increasingly become redundant when you have such incidents taking place in India. And the Indian government may not be capable of dealing with this effectively.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 03:39:46 PM
It makes sense because China bought a 1/5 stake in a major arm of the Rothschild banking cartel a few months ago, they are driving the investors from india to china
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:41:05 PM
First BRIC summit announced...less than 24 hours ago!

Russia to host BRIC 2009 summit
http://www.inform.kz/showarticle3.php?lang=eng&id=173036


RIO DE JANEIRO. November 27. KAZINFORM The next summit of BRIC countries will be held in Russia next year, President Dmitry Medvedev announced on Wednesday. The first summit of the four BRIC members - Brazil, Russia, India and China - was held in July 2008 in Hokkaido, Japan. Russia had hosted a meeting of BRIC foreign ministers two months earlier, in the Urals city of Yekaterinburg, Kazinform cites RIA Novosti. "Next year we will hold the summit in Russia," Medvedev said after talks in Rio de Janeiro with his Brazilian counterpart, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva. During the meeting, the presidents discussed cooperation in oil and gas, energy including nuclear power, space, agriculture, and humanitarian issues. Medvedev also invited Lula da Silva to visit Russia.  The Russian leader said ties with Brazil and other BRIC members are particularly important in the context of the global credit crisis.

The Brazilian leader said he had "great hopes" for the 2009 summit. On issues to be addressed at the meeting, he proposed: "We must ensure that deals are made more transparent, and more controllable. We need to revitalize the real sector of economy and avoid protectionist measures." The term BRIC was first used in 2003 in a thesis published by the Goldman Sachs investment bank that named Brazil, Russia, India and China as large emerging economies likely to assume key global roles.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:45:22 PM
I love the control center reports.

If only we were able to expose the control center in Building 7 before they blew up the building.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 03:45:39 PM
Here is confirmation that they are trying to drive indian investors to China:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Shanghai-Hong-Kong-Seoul-rally/story.aspx?guid=%7B8E1F589A%2DFEFA%2D44E5%2DAA1D%2DDD6BCDDBAAAD%7D

ASIA MARKETS
Shanghai, Hong Kong, Seoul rally; Mumbai closed
By V. Phani Kumar, MarketWatch
Last update: 5:50 a.m. EST Nov. 27, 2008Comments: 27HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- Asian markets ended with strong gains Thursday, paced by Shanghai- and Hong Kong-listed shares a day after the Chinese central bank slashed interest rates to kick-start weakening economic growth.South Korean, Taiwanese and Japanese shares also ended higher, with technology stocks such as Elpida Memory and Hynix Semiconductor among gainers after Wall Street stretched a rally into a fourth session. Resource stocks jumped in Australia on a sharp overnight rise in crude-oil prices.
Indian markets were closed for the day in the wake of synchronized terrorist attacks overnight in nine or more locations in the financial capital Mumbai, which left at least 101 people dead and 287 wounded. See full story.
China's Shanghai Composite jumped 3.5% to finish at 1,964.71, in response to the People's Bank of China's reduction in lending and deposit rates by as much as 1.08%. The central bank also cut banks' reserve requirements sharply. See full story.
In Hong Kong, the Hang Seng Index gained 3.6% to 13,845.87, while the Hang Seng China Enterprises Index added 5.1% to 7,287.60.
Andrew To, sales director at Taifook Securities, said the markets could trend even higher next month, given that December is usually a "good transitionary month for stock investments," and unless the circumstances were exceptional, funds usually ranked among buyers during the month.
"Last year, the Hang Seng Index closed around 28,000. This year it's around 13,000 to 14,000. [Funds] really need to dress up their accounts," said To.
Elsewhere, Taiwan's Taiex soared 4.1% to 4,448.61, while Singapore's Straits Times Index advanced 0.6% to 1,721.29.
In Tokyo, the Nikkei 225 Average gained 1.3% to 8,319.49 and the broader Topix index added 0.8% to 824.03.
Australia's S&P/ASX 200 rose 1.4% to 3,589.30 and New Zealand's NZX 50 index gained 1.2% to 2,668.74, while South Korea's Kospi climbed 3.5% to 1,065.29.
"Generally, people are taking a positive step from China to try and prevent the downside from a slowdown," said Andrew Sullivan, a sales trader at Main First Securities.
He added that the terror attack on Mumbai "probably changes investor sentiment [toward India], but that could be positive for China, with people looking at China rather than India going ahead." ............................
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:48:04 PM
Here is confirmation that they are trying to drive indian investors to China:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Shanghai-Hong-Kong-Seoul-rally/story.aspx?guid=%7B8E1F589A%2DFEFA%2D44E5%2DAA1D%2DDD6BCDDBAAAD%7D

ASIA MARKETS
Shanghai, Hong Kong, Seoul rally; Mumbai closed
By V. Phani Kumar, MarketWatch
Last update: 5:50 a.m. EST Nov. 27, 2008Comments: 27HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- Asian markets ended with strong gains Thursday, paced by Shanghai- and Hong Kong-listed shares a day after the Chinese central bank slashed interest rates to kick-start weakening economic growth.South Korean, Taiwanese and Japanese shares also ended higher, with technology stocks such as Elpida Memory and Hynix Semiconductor among gainers after Wall Street stretched a rally into a fourth session. Resource stocks jumped in Australia on a sharp overnight rise in crude-oil prices.
Indian markets were closed for the day in the wake of synchronized terrorist attacks overnight in nine or more locations in the financial capital Mumbai, which left at least 101 people dead and 287 wounded. See full story.
China's Shanghai Composite jumped 3.5% to finish at 1,964.71, in response to the People's Bank of China's reduction in lending and deposit rates by as much as 1.08%. The central bank also cut banks' reserve requirements sharply. See full story.
In Hong Kong, the Hang Seng Index gained 3.6% to 13,845.87, while the Hang Seng China Enterprises Index added 5.1% to 7,287.60.
Andrew To, sales director at Taifook Securities, said the markets could trend even higher next month, given that December is usually a "good transitionary month for stock investments," and unless the circumstances were exceptional, funds usually ranked among buyers during the month.
"Last year, the Hang Seng Index closed around 28,000. This year it's around 13,000 to 14,000. [Funds] really need to dress up their accounts," said To.
Elsewhere, Taiwan's Taiex soared 4.1% to 4,448.61, while Singapore's Straits Times Index advanced 0.6% to 1,721.29.
In Tokyo, the Nikkei 225 Average gained 1.3% to 8,319.49 and the broader Topix index added 0.8% to 824.03.
Australia's S&P/ASX 200 rose 1.4% to 3,589.30 and New Zealand's NZX 50 index gained 1.2% to 2,668.74, while South Korea's Kospi climbed 3.5% to 1,065.29.
"Generally, people are taking a positive step from China to try and prevent the downside from a slowdown," said Andrew Sullivan, a sales trader at Main First Securities.
He added that the terror attack on Mumbai "probably changes investor sentiment [toward India], but that could be positive for China, with people looking at China rather than India going ahead." ............................

Did China sell out India to G7 for financial profit?

The question of who controls China is still unknown.

Brazil is probably next if they are going after BRIC.

China/Russia will be the last straw.
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: iamc November 27, 2008, 03:51:21 PM
SMALL MUSHROOM CLOUDS ...in the air over India? Perfect place for false flag/ because of the high population = many deaths.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 03:54:51 PM
Did China sell out India to G7 for financial profit?

The question of who controls China is still unknown.

Brazil is probably next if they are going after BRIC.

China/Russia will be the last straw.
Who runs China? here ya go:

http://www.financeasia.com/article.aspx?CIaNID=89365
, such as Bank of China’s acquisition of a 20% stake in La Compagnie Financière Edmond de Rothschild of France for $340 million and China Merchant’s Bank’s $4.6 billion acquisition of Wing Lung Bank.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
China's Zhonghai Fund confirms Rothschild takes 15.385 pct stake
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:55:55 PM
CNN:

"Was it an inside job?"

Now you ask this question?

Billions can answer this question...

YES! OF COURSE! DUH!
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 03:57:05 PM
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,24700857-36418,00.html

ONE of China's richest men, electronics tycoon Huang Guangyu, has been arrested on suspicion of market manipulation.

Mr Huang, 39, also known as Wong Kwong Yo, is founder and chairman of Chinese electrical appliance giant Gome Electrical Appliances Holdings, which is listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange.

The arrest was reported on the website of the Chinese finance magazine Caijing.

The company's shares were suspended yesterday and the group has claimed not to know about Mr Huang's arrest. Gome issued a statement saying shares had been suspended "pending the release of an announcement in relation to price-sensitive information".

According to Caijing, Mr Huang, the second-richest man in China, was questioned by police in relation to share trading in Chinese drug company Shandong Jintai Group, which is controlled by his brother Huang Junqin.

Shares in Shandong Jintai were also suspended from trading on the Shanghai stock exchange yesterday. But Hong Kong's Ming Pao Daily News claimed the investigation of Huang Guangyu was related to alleged acts of embezzlement and bribery early in his career.

Both Mr Huang and his brother were investigated in 2006 about a 1.3 billion yuan ($300 million) loan from the Bank of China in Beijing. Also in 2006, Mr Huang was forced to sell 25 per cent of the company to assuage regulators' worries about market dominance.

As part of the sale, New York-based private equity group Warburg Pincus made a "strategic investment" in Gome through the issuance of $US125 million convertible bonds and $US25 million warrants. This gave the group an effective 9.71 per cent in the company, if all the bonds and warrants due in 2001 were converted. Warburg Pincus managing director Sun Qiang Chang joined the Gome board in January 2006.

Gome, which operates more than 1300 stores and employs about 300,000 people, yesterday pushed on with its financial reporting, unveiling a 24.87 billion yuan in revenues for its first half, up 18 per cent compared with last year.

Other non-executive directors of Gome include Mark Greaves, the former managing director for the Asia region of NM Rothschild & Sons.

US finance magazine Forbes ranked Mr Huang No2 on its China rich list, but he has been ranked richest by Shanghai-based analyst Rupert Hoogewerf, with assets worth $US6.3 billion ($10 billion).

Gome's shares fell 3 per cent to $HK1.12 (23c) last Friday, extending its 77 per cent decline this year.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 03:58:20 PM
Who runs China? here ya go:

http://www.financeasia.com/article.aspx?CIaNID=89365
, such as Bank of China’s acquisition of a 20% stake in La Compagnie Financière Edmond de Rothschild of France for $340 million and China Merchant’s Bank’s $4.6 billion acquisition of Wing Lung Bank.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
China's Zhonghai Fund confirms Rothschild takes 15.385 pct stake

Anything under $1 Trillion is horse feed.  Rothschild has major interests and Nick Rockefeller has been working China for over 20 years.  But not enough to really say they are owned by either or both.

They do seem to have the ENDGAME society for the NWO (1 child policy, disarmed population, no dissent, etc.)
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED! (Target: BRIC unity)
: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 04:01:29 PM
Anything under $1 Trillion is horse feed.  Rothschild has major interests and Nick Rockefeller has been working China for over 20 years.  But not enough to really say they are owned by either or both.

They do seem to have the ENDGAME society for the NWO (1 child policy, disarmed population, no dissent, etc.)
This is just what they publicly admit, it merely confirms the Rothschilds have their hands all over China
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:02:07 PM
China may be paid off not to investigate, but there is no way they instigated this unnoticed.

Also, they may get some short term gain from this, but breaking up BRIC does not serve their long term interests. India is a major nuke state and has been used for decades to threaten China.

This attack was meant to break up BRIC and the best served is G7.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 04:05:14 PM
 You think  China cares about India when their own economy is imploding? They probably werent even paid off, they got a giant transfer of wealth from India to China.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED! (Target: BRIC unity)
: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:08:21 PM
You think  China cares about India when their own economy is imploding? They probably werent even paid off, they got a giant transfer of wealth from India to China.

OK, just to understand...

Even though China has never used false flag terrorism as far as we can tell and the G7 has been doing these exact actions for more than 40 years (dozens of documented cases from Chip Tatum alone).

You are saying that China instigated this to get some temporary wealth when it only makes them weaker to fight G7 in the long term and alienates them?

I am just trying to understand the logic.

I am no fan of China and its policies, but this is just more fuel for the BRIC fears...

Will the BRIC nations spread a new Yellow Fever?
http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Will-the-BRIC-nations-spread-a-new-Yellow-Fever-12037-3-1.html
2008-10-06 15:30:00
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED! (Target: BRIC unity)
: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 04:10:14 PM
No i am saying China is IN on it. They didn't do this, their counterparts in Britain did. They are working with the British Empire is what i am saying.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 04:13:04 PM
You gotta understand that this isn't a U.S. Meltdown its a World Wide Meltdown, Countries are forming alliances to save the dead financial system and it appears China allied itself with Britain. Wheather Britain stabs them in the back as they do to everyone else is unknown but likely
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:13:19 PM
No i am saying China is IN on it. They didn't do this, their counterparts in Britain did. They are working with the British Empire is what i am saying.

I think they work with everyone (US/UK/Russia/Iran).  But this attack helps G7 against BRIC and that cannot be good for their power going forward.  They know all about divide and conquer.

Of course we are talking about them as if they are just opposing mob families in the same neighborhood.

And that is the damned truth that is so disheartening and disillusioning to accept.
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: Brocke November 27, 2008, 04:15:05 PM
Here's the financial smoking gun.

India Investment Summit
The summit will run concurrently in Mumbai and Bangalore from November 24 through to November 26.

VIDEO: http://in.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=94329&videoChannel=104

Quotes from India Investment Summit
http://www.reuters.com/article/IndiaInvestment08/idUSTRE4AP44H20081126

On the outlook for the second half of 2009: "India will be a shining star to the whole world. Low inflation, low rates, growth, and the pressure on the rupee will go away."

"We are allowing for a correction to happen in our liability mix. If that warrants some recalibration of our market share, we are comfortable."

"We now have almost all the businesses that a broad-based bank should have. We will press the accelerator when we see the opportunity."
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 04:16:09 PM
The reason they are attacking BRIC is because the only way to rescue the worlds Financial and probably economic systems is if all 4 nations cooperate, including the U.S.

THey are making this impossible now with distractions and murder
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED! (Target: BRIC unity)
: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:25:27 PM
You gotta understand that this isn't a U.S. Meltdown its a World Wide Meltdown, Countries are forming alliances to save the dead financial system and it appears China allied itself with Britain. Wheather Britain stabs them in the back as they do to everyone else is unknown but likely

It is a worldwide meltdown caused by G7.

G7 wants no country financial center available as a safe haven for investors.

BRIC challenges their work to cause a worldwide depression.

The depression is not an accident, it is planned to enact carbon taxes and population control.

BRIC stands in their way.

G7 attacked BRIC, China may look the other way for the moment, but when you get real close to the Chinese borders, they will never allow another Nanking.  I guarantee that.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 04:26:37 PM
The system is interconnected in such a way that if one powerhouse collapses, all of us do ( India China Russia or U.S.)  Brazil may narrowly escape complete melt down if the others collapse but i doubt it. International Trade has almost been suspended (this is why the crude oil prices are 50$ a barrel). China depends on exports and shipping companies are not moving their products, nor are americans buying their products. Russia is now competely dependent on OIL which has collapsed in price hence the Ruble has collapsed as well. It's a WORLD wide meltdown.
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: Dig November 27, 2008, 04:41:35 PM
The system is interconnected in such a way that if one powerhouse collapses, all of us do ( India China Russia or U.S.)  Brazil may narrowly escape complete melt down if the others collapse but i doubt it. International Trade has almost been suspended (this is why the crude oil prices are 50$ a barrel). China depends on exports and shipping companies are not moving their products, nor are americans buying their products. Russia is now competely dependent on OIL which has collapsed in price hence the Ruble has collapsed as well. It's a WORLD wide meltdown.

so why bother with the attack on the heart of a financial center of a BRIC country who has been hedging in gold and has not upgraded their monetary system to G7 standards?

Since it is a worldwide depression why was Mumbai targeted?

What is the Motive?

Why destabilize a safe haven for investors?

It is a worldwide collapse, why bother the one location that could have provided some stability?

Wait, why was Mumbai even a place for investors anyway since there is a worldwiide meltdown?

Why was this overly obvious G7 coordinated attack including media planned for so many months?

They are not after the next few years of finances, they are after control for the next 10 generations.
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: larsonstdoc November 27, 2008, 04:47:57 PM
The system is interconnected in such a way that if one powerhouse collapses, all of us do ( India China Russia or U.S.)  Brazil may narrowly escape complete melt down if the others collapse but i doubt it. International Trade has almost been suspended (this is why the crude oil prices are 50$ a barrel). China depends on exports and shipping companies are not moving their products, nor are americans buying their products. Russia is now competely dependent on OIL which has collapsed in price hence the Ruble has collapsed as well. It's a WORLD wide meltdown.

Brazil has some pretty crafty people down there.  They can make ethanol from sugar cane and get twice the ethanol out of the sugar beets.  They want 85%  ethanol cars so they are not dependent on foreign oil.  They sell their cattle to the USA and also their corn which is put in feed for our cattle.  We in America have our fields full of corn for ethanol and corn now is $4/bushel.  The farmers in America are starting to go broke because they can't get enough for their corn.  Our corn is not fit for animals or humans.  Farmers are trying to make a newly bankrupt ethanol company (through lawyers) pay $8 for their corn  They are stupid.  See the article below.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20081127/BUSINESS01/811270369/1029/BUSINESS


Farmers want VeraSun ordered to buy their corn
BY DAN PILLER • DPILLER@DMREG.COM • NOVEMBER 27, 2008
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Floyd, Ia. — About 150 farmers who have contracts to sell corn to bankrupt ethanol producer VeraSun Energy are weighing the risks of the futures markets against the uncertainties of bankruptcy court.

Farmers met in Floyd on Wednesday to discuss VeraSun's request to cancel corn futures contracts at its discretion on 10-day notice. Most of the group have joined a committee formed by state Rep. Mark Kuhn, D-Charles City, that will argue Tuesday in bankruptcy court in Delaware against VeraSun's motion.



"We're being held hostage," said Kuhn, whose family farm operation near Charles City has been a VeraSun customer. "We never before had the opportunity to sell corn at $5, $6, or $7 per bushel. We took out the contracts, and now don't know where we stand."

About 7,800 farmers in the Midwest, 5,600 in Iowa, have contracted to sell corn to VeraSun and stand to lose if the company voids corn contracts, all of which would obligate VeraSun to pay more than the current cash market prices of about $3.60 per bushel.

VeraSun hasn't said which contracts it would void. The farmer group says it wants a decision on all contracts by Dec. 15 so farmers could try to sell their corn elsewhere if necessary.

Attorney Joe Peiffer of Cedar Rapids, who will argue on behalf of the farmers before the judge in Wilmington, Del., on Tuesday, said, "We're saying to the court to tell VeraSun to put up or shut up."

But although more than 80 farmers have so far signed up to be part of the legal challenge to VeraSun, not everyone is itching for a fight. Gary Molitor, who farms near Floyd, said he would prefer negotiations with VeraSun over a direct confrontation.

"I'm worried that we're putting ourselves in an adversarial position when we would be better served by talking with them and trying to renegotiate," Molitor said. He would like to hold open the option that the contracts might be honored by VeraSun or a successor company at a later date, he said.

"They have to continue to buy corn in order to keep producing," Molitor said.

Mark Thompson of Badger, near Fort Dodge, said: "I have a contract for December corn that's due for delivery on Monday. I want VeraSun to honor that contract, so my interest is a little different from others."

Thompson said he was unlikely to deliver the corn to VeraSun's Fort Dodge plant Monday unless he hears from VeraSun. The company has given farmers no notice about the status of their contracts.

Cliff Edson of Ionia said he just completed his harvest. "Now I need a decision on what price I can sell it," he said. "I can't wait for VeraSun to make up its mind."

Nathan Chester of Plainfield said: "Who knows what prices will be in the next few months? We don't want to wait."

Kuhn acknowledged the agony caused by the uncertainties of the current market. The price of corn has fallen from a record $8 per bushel in July to less than $4 per bushel in the last month.

VeraSun went into bankruptcy on Oct. 31 after suffering massive losses in the corn futures markets last summer and early fall. For the quarter that ended Sept. 30, the Sioux Falls, S.D.-based company reported a loss of $476 million. It has closed its plant at Dyersville but continues to operate Iowa plants at Fort Dodge, Hartley, Albert City and Charles City. It also has plants in five other states.

On Tuesday, VeraSun said it had received an unsolicited offer of a buyout from an unnamed suitor.

The farmers continued to speak favorably of ethanol, despite the anguish the VeraSun bankruptcy has brought them.

"There is no greater group of supporters for ethanol and biofuels than the people in this room," Kuhn said.

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: larsonstdoc November 27, 2008, 04:51:55 PM
Why was this overly obvious G7 coordinated attack including media planned for so many months?

They are not after the next few years of finances, they are after control for the next 10 generations.


BINGO.  They want to control everything but THEY WILL FAIL.
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: Biggs November 27, 2008, 05:02:18 PM
found this on GLP, gunfights and a blast in karachi, seemingly the destabilisation of Pakistan is going on as planned

(warning, page does not load in opera, okay in IE though)

Reports of Unrest Late Night In The City.
By Jamash November 28th, 2008 @ 1:35 AM Breaking News!!, Crime, Local News

http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/11/28/reports-of-unrest-late-night-in-the-city/

 There are reports of heavy exchange of firing between two groups at Soharaab Goth and a bomb blast on a pushcart near Bakra Mundi. Reports of unrest and violence in different parts of the city. Shops and markets are reported to have been closed in Aziz Abad, Gulburg, parts of Gulshan-e-Iqbal (near Abul Hasan Asphani Road) are reported to have been closed earlier then usual. While since 12:30 am we have been hearing heavy firing with intervals coming from a distance here in Gulshan-e-Iqbal.

What’s surprises me is that none of the local news channels are reporting any of it.
: Re: G7 Sponsored India False Flag Terror Operation EXPOSED! (Target: BRIC unity)
: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 05:20:13 PM
so why bother with the attack on the heart of a financial center of a BRIC country who has been hedging in gold and has not upgraded their monetary system to G7 standards?

Since it is a worldwide depression why was Mumbai targeted?

What is the Motive?

Why destabilize a safe haven for investors?

It is a worldwide collapse, why bother the one location that could have provided some stability?

Wait, why was Mumbai even a place for investors anyway since there is a worldwiide meltdown?

Why was this overly obvious G7 coordinated attack including media planned for so many months?

They are not after the next few years of finances, they are after control for the next 10 generations.
Their targets will be to undermind ANY cooperation b/w China, India, U.S. and Russia. This is the only thing that threatens their Global Currency plans, 4 Power House nations uniting and rejecting it such as FDR did during bretton woods. If FDR had not Rejected Keynes calls for a 1 world currency we would not be in the U.S. today, they are trying to prevent a new bretton woods modeled on the old one. Which was the dollar reserve currency backed by Gold, and a FIXED exchange rate system to allow world wide growth.
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: larsonstdoc November 27, 2008, 05:23:20 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27943544


Pakistan warns India against attack accusations
Says linking it to Mumbai terrorism would 'destroy all the goodwill'
   



updated 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan warned India against accusing of it links to the Mumbai terror attacks Thursday, saying doing so would "destroy all the goodwill" between the two nuclear-armed rivals.

The remarks by Pakistan's defense minister came hours after Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said militants based outside his country carried out the atatcks.

Singh did not single out Pakistan, which New Delhi has accused of complicity in terror attacks on its soil before, but his remarks are likely to be taken as a sign here that India suspects Pakistani links somewhere in the plot.



A serious deterioration in relations between Pakistan and India, which have fought three wars since 1947, would greatly complicate U.S. foreign policy in South Asia as it tries to get Islamabad to focus less on its southern neighbor and more on tackling al-Qaida and Taliban militants along the Afghan border.

In 2001, militants fighting Indian-rule in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir attacked the parliament in New Delhi, helping push the countries to the brink of war a year later.

The attacks late Wednesday saw teams of gunmen target at least 10 sites, including two luxury hotels, a railway station and a Jewish center, in the financial capital of Mumbai. More than 100 people were killed.

In an address to the nation, Singh said the group that carried out the attacks "was based outside the country" and warned its neighbors "that the use of their territory for launching attacks on us will not be tolerated."

'We should not be blamed'
Pakistan Defense Minister Ahmed Mukhtar condemned the attacks, but said "we should not be blamed like in the past."

"This will destroy all the goodwill we created together after years of bitterness," he told The Associated Press. "I will say in very categoric terms that Pakistan is not involved in these gory incidents."

Earlier, Indian navy spokesman Capt. Manohar Nambiar said navy officers had boarded a cargo vessel it suspected of ties to the attacks that had come to Mumbai from Karachi, Pakistan. He later said the ship was not linked in any way to the strikes.

Many analysts said Wednesday's attacks were more likely to have been carried out by indigenous, Indian extremist groups blamed for a series of bombings this year.

They also noted that India's government stood to benefit politically for hinting at the involvement of its old rival — rather than admitting some of its own 145 million Muslims had become radicalized.

"It will always want to label this militancy as foreign rather than to accept it has its own problem," said Shaun Gregory, an expert on South Asian terrorism at the University of Bradford in Britain. "That sells much more easily to the Indian public than admitting serious grievances within its Muslims."


 

Pakistan's new president, Asif Ali Zardari, declared over the weekend that India posed no threat to Pakistan and called for the heavily militarized border to be opened for trade.

Earlier, Pakistan's foreign minister said his country would cooperate in any investigation. He too warned against early speculation about the perpetrators.

"Let us not go in for knee-jerk reactions," said Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who was in India for talks on a slow-moving South Asian peace process.

An Indian media report said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets. There was no way to verify that claim.

Rohan Gunaratna, a terrorism expert at the International Center for Political Violence and Terrorism Research in Singapore, said he believed the terrorists were from India.

"The earlier generation of terrorist groups in India were mostly linked to Pakistan," he said. "But today we are seeing a dramatic change. They are almost all homegrown groups."
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: deconstructmyhouse November 27, 2008, 05:42:43 PM
You think  China cares about India when their own economy is imploding? They probably werent even paid off, they got a giant transfer of wealth from India to China.

China is NOT imploding, they have no debt, compared with our mega trillions, they own the US through bond holdings (fannie, freddie, Tbills).   So imo this is continued posturing, enflaming, set up for the next big bloody power clash of banking cartels: Pakistan/China vs. India/US. 

China's a NWO model state; but it has gotten too powerful, imo.  Perhaps it has reverted to sovereign nation status by virtue of it's financial stability.   

  See CFR's own article below on the bond between Pakistan and China. 

 


From the CFR website:
 http://www.cfr.org/publication/10070 (http://www.cfr.org/publication/10070)

China and Pakistan: A Deepening Bond

 

    * Introduction
    * What is behind the relationship between China and Pakistan?
    * How does the relationship serve each country’s policy toward India?
    * Why does Pakistan need a deterrent against India?
    * What kind of assistance has China provided Pakistan?
    * What economic projects are the two countries currently working on?
    * How does the alliance with Pakistan fit into China’s global plans?
    * How is China leveraging its position in the region?
    * How does the relationship with China affect Pakistan’s association with the United States?

Introduction

As the United States and India celebrate an increasingly warmer relationship, attention has focused on the reaction of Pakistan. Many experts predict the new closeness between the world's only superpower and Islamabad's fiercest rival will prompt Pakistan to develop even closer ties with its longtime strategic security partner, China.
What is behind the relationship between China and Pakistan?

"Traditionally, the driving factor for China was a hedge against India, and for Pakistan it was gaining access to civilian and military resources," says Kenneth Lieberthal, a noted China expert and professor at the University of Michigan. Pakistan was one of the first countries to recognize the People's Republic of China, in 1950. In the 1960s, Pakistan and China grew closer as China's relationship with India worsened, leading to a border war in 1962 in which Chinese forces easily defeated the Indian army. Islamabad and Beijing have had close relations since, with Beijing providing economic, military, and technical assistance to its western neighbor.
How does the relationship serve each country’s policy toward India?

Each country helps the other to check India's power. India's dispute with Pakistan ties up its troops and attention—a boon for China, which still has an unresolved dispute over a long stretch of its border with India. Pakistan, in turn, gets access to military hardware and a powerful strategic partner. "For China, Pakistan is a low-cost secondary deterrent to India," says Husain Haqqani, a visiting scholar and South Asia expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "For Pakistan, China is a high-value guarantor of security against India." While the relationship is not exactly balanced, it has been critically important to Pakistan, which has built its foreign policy around China. "Pakistan needs China more than China needs Pakistan," says Jing Huang, senior fellow in Asia Studies at the Brookings Institution. Subhash Kapila of the South Asia Analysis Group adds that "the cornerstone of Pakistan's strategic policies for the last forty years has been its undying military relationship with China."

For China, Pakistan provides a bridge between Beijing and the Muslim world, a geographically convenient trading partner, and a channel into security and political relations in South Asia. "China is trying to build up its global sphere of influence, and Pakistan doesn't mind China being a global power if it helps Pakistan become a regional power," says Haqqani.
Why does Pakistan need a deterrent against India?

The animosity between the two countries dates to partition in August 1947, when the British divided their former colony into two states. India was meant to be a secular democracy and Pakistan, a homeland for South Asian Muslims. More than six million Muslims migrated to Pakistan, and more than four million Hindus and Sikhs moved to India. Tremendous violence and upheaval during the partition process left more than one million people dead.

In the half-century since, Pakistan and India have fought three wars and come close a few other times. The unresolved issue of the disputed territory of Kashmir and periodic military buildups on both sides have kept tensions high. Many Pakistanis still worry that India wants to reunite the territory under its control. Both countries tested nuclear weapons in 1998.
What kind of assistance has China provided Pakistan?

"Pakistan is a major recipient of Chinese economic aid," Huang says, including "massive" cooperation in the defense industry. China provides Pakistan with the following defense aid:

    * Nuclear program. China supplies Pakistan with nuclear technology and assistance, including what many experts suspect was the blueprint for Pakistan's nuclear bomb. (Pakistan is suspected of having enough fissile material to build at least fifty-five nuclear weapons.) Some news reports suggest Chinese security agencies knew about Pakistani transfers of nuclear technology to Iran, North Korea, and Libya. China also had longstanding ties with Abdul Qadeer Khan, known as the father of the Pakistani nuclear program, and head of an international black market nuclear network. "The Pakistani nuclear program is largely the result of Sino-Pakistani relations," Huang says.
    * Ballistic missiles. Pakistan's army has both short- and medium-range ballistic missiles that experts say came from China and, indirectly, North Korea.
    * Aircraft. Pakistan is producing JF-17 Thunder aircraft jointly with China, which India worries could be used to deliver nuclear weapons. Pakistan also has a longstanding order—yet to be filled—for dozens of F-16 jet fighters from the United States for its air force.
    * Small arms. China has sold arms and even complete weapons systems to Pakistan, as well as setting up arms factories in Pakistan, according to a Congressional Research Service country report on Pakistan.

What economic projects are the two countries currently working on?

China is a major trading partner with Pakistan, accounting for nearly 11 percent of Islamabad's imports in 2004. Trade between the two countries was worth $4.25 billion in 2005, a 40 percent increase from the year before. On his recent trip to China, Musharraf encouraged Chinese business leaders to invest in Pakistan, saying, "Pakistan would welcome investments from China more than anywhere else because Chinese are our brothers and time-tested friends." The two countries have cooperated on a variety of large-scale infrastructure projects in Pakistan, including highways, gold and copper mines, major electricity complexes and power plants, and numerous nuclear power projects.

One of the most significant ongoing projects between the two nations is the construction of major port complex at the naval base of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea. The complex, which is partially completed, will provide a port, warehouses, and industrial facilities for more than twenty countries. The port will eventually be able to receive oil tankers with a capacity of 200,000 tons, as well as link Afghanistan and Central Asia to the sea. The area will be declared a free-trade zone to try to build it into the commercial hub of the region. In return for providing most of the labor and capital for the project, China will gain strategic access to the Persian Gulf and a naval outpost on the Indian Ocean from which to protect its oil imports from the Middle East.
How does the alliance with Pakistan fit into China’s global plans?

China, despite its long alliance with Pakistan, is increasingly reaching out to other nations. "What used to be a simple, stark, China-Pakistan alliance has become a much more complex, fluid relationship involving the United States and India," Lieberthal says. (The relationship between India, China, and the United States is explored in more depth in this CFR Background Q&A.) Pakistan helps China on a range of issues, including "providing intelligence, fighting terrorism, and repairing relations with the Muslim world," Huang says. "Beijing is trying to build up a wider global sphere of influence."
How is China leveraging its position in the region?

Some experts say China is using its status as a regional power with strong ties to Pakistan and a growing relationship with India to try to calm tensions and broker a solution to the Kashmir crisis that will guarantee regional security. China is intensely worried about war between India and Pakistan, experts say, so since the late 1990s it has been working quietly to bring the two sides together.

China has reached out to India, signing major agreements on energy, high-tech exchange, and trade. "China's game is to try to reduce negative factors in its relationship with India," Huang says. In a bid to reassure India and make it feel less threatened, China has made strong efforts to settle a border dispute with New Delhi in the Himalayas and soothe the wounded Indian national pride still left over from the 1962 war. And China has managed to improve its relationship with India without offending Pakistan. "Ironically, the most important chip in China's relationship with India is Pakistan," Huang says. "China is very quietly and effectively trying to help the two countries improve their relations."
How does the relationship with China affect Pakistan’s association with the United States?

Islamabad does not see positive relations with both Beijing and Washington as contradictory. "Pakistan thinks that both China and the U.S. are crucial for it," Haqqani says. "If push comes to shove, it would probably choose China—but for this moment, it doesn't look like there has to be a choice." Pakistan considers China a more reliable ally than the United States. Experts say Pakistanis are still stung by what they see as U.S. indifference toward their country after using it to funnel aid to Afghan mujahadeen fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. After the Russians pulled out in 1989, many Pakistanis feel the United States turned its back on Pakistan.

Experts say all the countries in the region are reevaluating their traditional positions. "Everyone in the region has learned to [develop] a relatively non-ideological set of policies," Lieberthal says. Others warn Pakistan can't take its importance to the United States for granted. Some say U.S. leaders are moving away from their staunch post-9/11 support for Musharraf, and could back truly democratic elections in 2007. Analyst Kapila writes in a paper for the South Asia Analysis Group that "judging the statements made by President Bush during his visit to Pakistan, a change in United States' Pakistan policies may have already commenced."
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: TheGoodFight1984 November 27, 2008, 05:45:44 PM
Some interesting info about the email from this deccan mujahideen here if anyone hasn't read this yet.. apparently the email came from a non existant IP address in Russia..

Hindi, this terror mail is different

Express news service Posted: Nov 28, 2008 at 0036 hrs IST

New Delhi : A Terror email made its appearance once again on Thursday morning. But just like the terror attack on Mumbai, the email too was a complete break from earlier mails sent to coincide with the serial bomb blasts in Ahmedabad, Jaipur and Delhi.

Unlike the venom-spewing emails that were sent earlier, the latest email, sent to some media houses purportedly by an unknown outfit Deccan Mujahideen, has a very mild tone and tenor. Interestingly, it’s written in Hindi. The earlier mails were all in English with a fair sprinkling of Arabic verses from the Quran. The email also did not invoke the 2002 Gujarat riots to justify the attacks. Instead it only said that the Mumbai attack was to avenge the injustices perpetrated on the Muslim community since Independence. This attack is in reaction to what the Hindus have been doing since 1947. Such reactions would keep on happening till we take revenge for each and every injustice perpetrated on us,” the email said.

Meanwhile, DGP S S P Yadav denied having any information regarding Deccan Mujahideen, adding that terrorists were using all kinds of names to confuse the security agencies.

“Deccan is a vast area, the group can be from anywhere. I think they can also be from Pakistan because there’s a Hyderabad there too,” the DGP said. But he was unable to explain why any group from Pakistan’s Hyderabad would choose to pre-fix Deccan in its name.

Yadav was also at sea when asked if there are any intelligence reports on terrorist activity in the city, especially after LeT militant Shaikh Abdul Jabbar was caught from the city by the Kerala Police.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/In-Hindi--this-terror-mail-is-different/391563
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 05:49:56 PM
China is NOT imploding, they have no debt, compared with our mega trillions, they own the US through bond holdings (fannie, freddie, Tbills).   So imo this is continued posturing, enflaming, set up for the next big bloody power clash of banking cartels: Pakistan/China vs. India/US. 

China's a NWO model state; but it has gotten too powerful, imo.  Perhaps it has reverted to sovereign nation status by virtue of it's financial stability.   

  See CFR's own article below on the bond between Pakistan and China. 

 


From the CFR website:
 http://www.cfr.org/publication/10070 (http://www.cfr.org/publication/10070)

China and Pakistan: A Deepening Bond

 

    * Introduction
    * What is behind the relationship between China and Pakistan?
    * How does the relationship serve each country’s policy toward India?
    * Why does Pakistan need a deterrent against India?
    * What kind of assistance has China provided Pakistan?
    * What economic projects are the two countries currently working on?
    * How does the alliance with Pakistan fit into China’s global plans?
    * How is China leveraging its position in the region?
    * How does the relationship with China affect Pakistan’s association with the United States?

Introduction

As the United States and India celebrate an increasingly warmer relationship, attention has focused on the reaction of Pakistan. Many experts predict the new closeness between the world's only superpower and Islamabad's fiercest rival will prompt Pakistan to develop even closer ties with its longtime strategic security partner, China.
What is behind the relationship between China and Pakistan?

"Traditionally, the driving factor for China was a hedge against India, and for Pakistan it was gaining access to civilian and military resources," says Kenneth Lieberthal, a noted China expert and professor at the University of Michigan. Pakistan was one of the first countries to recognize the People's Republic of China, in 1950. In the 1960s, Pakistan and China grew closer as China's relationship with India worsened, leading to a border war in 1962 in which Chinese forces easily defeated the Indian army. Islamabad and Beijing have had close relations since, with Beijing providing economic, military, and technical assistance to its western neighbor.
How does the relationship serve each country’s policy toward India?

Each country helps the other to check India's power. India's dispute with Pakistan ties up its troops and attention—a boon for China, which still has an unresolved dispute over a long stretch of its border with India. Pakistan, in turn, gets access to military hardware and a powerful strategic partner. "For China, Pakistan is a low-cost secondary deterrent to India," says Husain Haqqani, a visiting scholar and South Asia expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "For Pakistan, China is a high-value guarantor of security against India." While the relationship is not exactly balanced, it has been critically important to Pakistan, which has built its foreign policy around China. "Pakistan needs China more than China needs Pakistan," says Jing Huang, senior fellow in Asia Studies at the Brookings Institution. Subhash Kapila of the South Asia Analysis Group adds that "the cornerstone of Pakistan's strategic policies for the last forty years has been its undying military relationship with China."

For China, Pakistan provides a bridge between Beijing and the Muslim world, a geographically convenient trading partner, and a channel into security and political relations in South Asia. "China is trying to build up its global sphere of influence, and Pakistan doesn't mind China being a global power if it helps Pakistan become a regional power," says Haqqani.
Why does Pakistan need a deterrent against India?

The animosity between the two countries dates to partition in August 1947, when the British divided their former colony into two states. India was meant to be a secular democracy and Pakistan, a homeland for South Asian Muslims. More than six million Muslims migrated to Pakistan, and more than four million Hindus and Sikhs moved to India. Tremendous violence and upheaval during the partition process left more than one million people dead.

In the half-century since, Pakistan and India have fought three wars and come close a few other times. The unresolved issue of the disputed territory of Kashmir and periodic military buildups on both sides have kept tensions high. Many Pakistanis still worry that India wants to reunite the territory under its control. Both countries tested nuclear weapons in 1998.
What kind of assistance has China provided Pakistan?

"Pakistan is a major recipient of Chinese economic aid," Huang says, including "massive" cooperation in the defense industry. China provides Pakistan with the following defense aid:

    * Nuclear program. China supplies Pakistan with nuclear technology and assistance, including what many experts suspect was the blueprint for Pakistan's nuclear bomb. (Pakistan is suspected of having enough fissile material to build at least fifty-five nuclear weapons.) Some news reports suggest Chinese security agencies knew about Pakistani transfers of nuclear technology to Iran, North Korea, and Libya. China also had longstanding ties with Abdul Qadeer Khan, known as the father of the Pakistani nuclear program, and head of an international black market nuclear network. "The Pakistani nuclear program is largely the result of Sino-Pakistani relations," Huang says.
    * Ballistic missiles. Pakistan's army has both short- and medium-range ballistic missiles that experts say came from China and, indirectly, North Korea.
    * Aircraft. Pakistan is producing JF-17 Thunder aircraft jointly with China, which India worries could be used to deliver nuclear weapons. Pakistan also has a longstanding order—yet to be filled—for dozens of F-16 jet fighters from the United States for its air force.
    * Small arms. China has sold arms and even complete weapons systems to Pakistan, as well as setting up arms factories in Pakistan, according to a Congressional Research Service country report on Pakistan.

What economic projects are the two countries currently working on?

China is a major trading partner with Pakistan, accounting for nearly 11 percent of Islamabad's imports in 2004. Trade between the two countries was worth $4.25 billion in 2005, a 40 percent increase from the year before. On his recent trip to China, Musharraf encouraged Chinese business leaders to invest in Pakistan, saying, "Pakistan would welcome investments from China more than anywhere else because Chinese are our brothers and time-tested friends." The two countries have cooperated on a variety of large-scale infrastructure projects in Pakistan, including highways, gold and copper mines, major electricity complexes and power plants, and numerous nuclear power projects.

One of the most significant ongoing projects between the two nations is the construction of major port complex at the naval base of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea. The complex, which is partially completed, will provide a port, warehouses, and industrial facilities for more than twenty countries. The port will eventually be able to receive oil tankers with a capacity of 200,000 tons, as well as link Afghanistan and Central Asia to the sea. The area will be declared a free-trade zone to try to build it into the commercial hub of the region. In return for providing most of the labor and capital for the project, China will gain strategic access to the Persian Gulf and a naval outpost on the Indian Ocean from which to protect its oil imports from the Middle East.
How does the alliance with Pakistan fit into China’s global plans?

China, despite its long alliance with Pakistan, is increasingly reaching out to other nations. "What used to be a simple, stark, China-Pakistan alliance has become a much more complex, fluid relationship involving the United States and India," Lieberthal says. (The relationship between India, China, and the United States is explored in more depth in this CFR Background Q&A.) Pakistan helps China on a range of issues, including "providing intelligence, fighting terrorism, and repairing relations with the Muslim world," Huang says. "Beijing is trying to build up a wider global sphere of influence."
How is China leveraging its position in the region?

Some experts say China is using its status as a regional power with strong ties to Pakistan and a growing relationship with India to try to calm tensions and broker a solution to the Kashmir crisis that will guarantee regional security. China is intensely worried about war between India and Pakistan, experts say, so since the late 1990s it has been working quietly to bring the two sides together.

China has reached out to India, signing major agreements on energy, high-tech exchange, and trade. "China's game is to try to reduce negative factors in its relationship with India," Huang says. In a bid to reassure India and make it feel less threatened, China has made strong efforts to settle a border dispute with New Delhi in the Himalayas and soothe the wounded Indian national pride still left over from the 1962 war. And China has managed to improve its relationship with India without offending Pakistan. "Ironically, the most important chip in China's relationship with India is Pakistan," Huang says. "China is very quietly and effectively trying to help the two countries improve their relations."
How does the relationship with China affect Pakistan’s association with the United States?

Islamabad does not see positive relations with both Beijing and Washington as contradictory. "Pakistan thinks that both China and the U.S. are crucial for it," Haqqani says. "If push comes to shove, it would probably choose China—but for this moment, it doesn't look like there has to be a choice." Pakistan considers China a more reliable ally than the United States. Experts say Pakistanis are still stung by what they see as U.S. indifference toward their country after using it to funnel aid to Afghan mujahadeen fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. After the Russians pulled out in 1989, many Pakistanis feel the United States turned its back on Pakistan.

Experts say all the countries in the region are reevaluating their traditional positions. "Everyone in the region has learned to [develop] a relatively non-ideological set of policies," Lieberthal says. Others warn Pakistan can't take its importance to the United States for granted. Some say U.S. leaders are moving away from their staunch post-9/11 support for Musharraf, and could back truly democratic elections in 2007. Analyst Kapila writes in a paper for the South Asia Analysis Group that "judging the statements made by President Bush during his visit to Pakistan, a change in United States' Pakistan policies may have already commenced."

China IS Imploding. Look at their STeel Demand, and Exports. Their exports are sitting at their ports rotting and they have no steel demand to build infrastructure, the only thing keeping them afloat is their 2 Trillion in reserves. Their economy is IMPLODING.
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: deconstructmyhouse November 27, 2008, 05:52:09 PM

China IS Imploding. Look at their STeel Demand, and Exports. Their exports are sitting at their ports rotting and they have no steel demand to build infrastructure, the only thing keeping them afloat is their 2 Trillion in reserves. Their economy is IMPLODING.

Then why don't they cash in their bonds?  How can you be imploding when you are in the black?
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 05:53:17 PM
China DEPENDS on a weak currency and massive amounts of exports, now their currency is gaining value and no one is buying their exports due to international trade meltdown. That is why they just said they were investing a MASSIVE sum in infrastucture, the only question is, will it be too late. Will the whole system implode before they accomplish their own infrastucture plan.
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: Revolt426 November 27, 2008, 05:54:07 PM
Then why don't they cash in their bonds?  How can you be imploding when you are in the black?
Easy answer: China's #1 market = U.S. idiots. If they use U.S. Bonds they will create hyperinflation in the U.S. and destroy their largest market.
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: deconstructmyhouse November 27, 2008, 06:06:17 PM
I'm not saying you are wrong, but according to CIA rank order guide:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/rankorderguide.html (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/rankorderguide.html)
Globally, China is:
Number 7 in industrial production growth rate (13.4 %)
number 2 in stock of money (2 trillion)
Number 3 in gross fixed investment (43%)
Number 1 in current account balance (371 mill)
      as compared to the US: minus 731 million (must be way more now, one year later)
Number 1 for reserves of foreign exchange and gold (1.5 trill)
Number 4 in Exports  (1.2 trill)
Number 5 in Imports  (904 mill)
US external debt is #1 on the planet with 12 trillion
China is #21 with 363 million

I'm just saying, it doesn't look like the profile of an imploding country. 
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: spangler November 27, 2008, 06:08:08 PM
Too much of this doesn't add up.

I think there's a good possibility that this a frame up of Pakistan.

Mossad, I'm sure, is involved. India and Israel have a decades long alliance expressed primarily through their respective intelligence agencies and militaries. In fact, India's intelligence agency, RAW, was tasked at its inception by Indira Ghandi with developing close ties to Mossad (http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/sep/08spec.htm).

RAW agents train in Israel (http://www.fas.org/irp/world/india/raw/index.html). Israel provides a lot of military equipment to India 1 (http://www.idrw.org/2008/03/30/indiaisrael_military_ties_continue_to_grow.html) 2 (http://www.indiatogether.org/govt/military/articles/isrlbuy02.htm)

There's ample motivation for India to do such a thing.
India and Pakistan are intense rivals. They're enemies. They have a serious ongoing dispute in Kashmir and have twice gone to war over it. India has accused Pakistan of aiding the Kashmiri insurgency in the India controlled part of Kashmir.

Israel would I'm sure aid India in a false flag against Pakistan. They share significant common cause against against Pakistan.
Israel has less hostile relations with Pakistan but they are by no means good. Pakistan is no friend of Israel's.
It will not recognize Israel and the two countries have no official relations. Pakistan has been openly critical of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and supports the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Furthermore, there have been strange rumblings in the U.S. that Pakistan poses a nuclear threat to Israel. Recall the VP debate in which Palin and Biden agreed that Pakistan was a nuclear threat to the world and specifically Israel.

Troubling for Israel, I'm sure, is that Pakistan's nukes can hit Israel.

Then there's David Ben Gurion's utterances that Israel should consider Pakistan its chief enemy and use India as a staging base for attacks against Pakistan (http://pakobserver.net/200808/08/Articles01.asp). According to one analyst, Mossad and RAW teamed up years ago to carry out terrorist attacks and stage false flags inside Pakistan (http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/182344).


In addition, the attacks look like a proper military operation. They look too sophisticated, too well coordinated, too successful, to be the work of, to be blamed