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Geo-Politics / World War III => RUSSIA and former Soviet Union Empire => : Jackson Holly August 31, 2013, 07:24:57 PM

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly August 31, 2013, 07:24:57 PM
V L A D I M I R    P U T I N

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... I don't know. I find myself coming down
on the side of this Russian leader in almost
every instance these days. Is he a 'truther'?


Putin: "In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state's role absolute. In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated."

He promotes free enterprise, opposing huge public debt
and out-of-control money printing ... and stands against
the 'old money' power of the Rothschilds.


Putin: “Look at their (America's) trade balance, their debt, and budget. They turn on the printing press and flood  the whole world with government bonds. There is no way we will act this way.... We don’t have the luxury of such hooliganism.”

He is a staunch defender of MORALITY ... and Christianity
and the other major religions, instituting Morality & Ethics
classes into Russian Middle Schools ... can you BELIEVE it?


Putin: "Orthodox Christianity has always played a special role in shaping our statehood, our culture, our morals. The Church may be seperate from the State. But in the soul and history of our people, it is all together. It always has been and always will be."

He tries to protect school kids from the onslaught of the
homosexual agenda, banning 'gay pride' parades and such and
instituting new laws against spreading 'Homosexual Propaganda'
to underage kids.


Putin: "We are determined to use any means to strengthen positive demographic tendencies (birth rates). ...We need to  to save the people of Russia."
.
Putin:  “It is important that families make that step (of having a third child). I am convinced that the norm in Russia should become a family with three children.”

He has enacted laws severely LIMITING abortion ...

He opposes escalating the war in Syria ... as elsewhere in the world, ie. Iran.

He is OPPOSED to NWO / World Government ...


Putin: "Some people are constantly insisting on the necessity to divide up our country and are trying to spread this theory. ...There are those who would like to build a unipolar world, who would themselves like to rule all of humanity."

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... and he is HUGELY popular in his country ... and for good reason.

The US needs a leader like this ... in my opinion.


VLADIMIR PUTIN ~ "BLUEBERRY HILL":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo)


READ HERE w/Links:~~~~~~> http://www.tomatobubble.com/who_hates_putin.html (http://www.tomatobubble.com/who_hates_putin.html)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Tommya77 August 31, 2013, 08:19:08 PM
I am not like the majority of people here, I think everyone should have an opinion and be allowed to express it. I for one am not 100% sold on Putin or all of his ideas.

I believe that woman have the right to decide what to do with their bodies.

I feel that gays are okay, they don't bother me. If they want to get married and be miserable like the rest of us straight married people, knock yourself out.

He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. I was a FSU expert in the military and the things this guy has done and knows is insane. He is worth BILLIONS, and is running a Monarchy over there, he can be in power until 2024. That type of job security lets you make decisions that might not be popular with the people.

I know the USA is in a world of crap right now, and we need people to keep clear heads and be more vocal and protest. I for one am so sad at how the government is acting. Obama needs to be impeached, but it won't happen. It is all about money and power.

So in closing, you have the right to like or dislike anything. I am just trying to point out a different view.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly August 31, 2013, 08:46:47 PM
He is worth BILLIONS, and is running a Monarchy over there, he can be in power until 2024. That type of job security lets you make decisions that might not be popular with the people.

Does Putin Have Billions $$$ ?

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/celebrity/how-vladimir-putin-stashed-away-a-secret-70-billion-personal-fortune/ (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/celebrity/how-vladimir-putin-stashed-away-a-secret-70-billion-personal-fortune/)


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Bernard August 31, 2013, 08:48:05 PM
Putin to (Nobel Prize winner) Obama: 'Think about future Syria victims' (FULL VIDEO)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUyPpT0_8Gg
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly August 31, 2013, 09:41:33 PM
 


 ... and, besides, he looks like Illya Kuryakin (David McCallum)
from the old sixties spy -vs- spy TV show
Man From U.N.C.L.E.


 ;D   ;D    ;D


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WATCH:
  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjmOkqU6Roo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjmOkqU6Roo)



: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Anon27 August 31, 2013, 09:49:34 PM
He is an interesting fella. Very intelligent, tough as nails, concerned with rising quality of life for the people.

The world would be FUBAR without a strong leader in Russia. Iran, for instance, would unquestionably be a go. China isn't strong enough militarily or economically to do anything alone on a large scale in terms of warfare.

Look at how much mainstream Western press is out there vilifying him, then read his point of view as well as provocative statements condemning American hegemony, and it becomes crystal clear he aint no company man.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Honor18 September 01, 2013, 08:43:46 AM
Would not say the guy is wonderful by any means but I would take him over Barry anyday at this point. If you look at the last couple of interviews he has done you will not hear a bunch of Rhetoric about "International Norms" and so forth....
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Highland September 01, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
Putin:  “It is important that families make that step (of having a third child). I am convinced that the norm in Russia should become a family with three children.”

More white christian children. Has to be bad right? A christian with money and having any power or control over anything? Anti white bigoted tribal commune group workers used communism as a tool to exterminate 60 million Christians in Russia.     
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Tommya77 September 01, 2013, 10:42:10 AM
Why is it always about religion? Religion has started more wars than anything. The guy of course has some good ideas, so do agnostic people, or atheist, Jews, Muslim. People need to learn to accept one another for their differences and just get along.

So tired of war around every corner, or our country having to put their noses in it. Muslim countries have been at war for THOUSANDS of years and it will continue for a thousand more.

So let us evaluate the mans character (which is lacking in many departments) and leave religion out of it.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 September 01, 2013, 10:43:35 AM



 ... and, besides, he looks like Illya Kuryakin (David McCallum)
from the old sixties spy -vs- spy TV show
Man From U.N.C.L.E.


 ;D   ;D    ;D


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WATCH:
  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjmOkqU6Roo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjmOkqU6Roo)





 Hi; My Name is VLAD! I SPY on WHOLE WORLD: I EVEN SPY on SELF...Ha Ha it's Russian Joke!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid September 01, 2013, 10:43:56 AM
The Nazis still want Russia for Lebensraum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum).

These Nazis want to lower the birth rate, and break up families, and other dark agendas. Russia is heading in the opposite direction, hence they must be demonized by the illuminati whore press.

Just look at the reality, Snowdon did not flee Russia to America land of the Free. Instead he fled from the Evil Empire and got sanctuary in Russia.

Russia is not trying to start a war in Syria to expand its Empire in a quest for total world domination.






: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 September 01, 2013, 11:09:45 AM
The Nazis still want Russia for Lebensraum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum).

These Nazis want to lower the birth rate, and break up families, and other dark agendas. Russia is heading in the opposite direction, hence they must be demonized by the illuminati whore press.

Just look at the reality, Snowdon did not flee Russia to America land of the Free. Instead he fled from the Evil Empire and got sanctuary in Russia.

Russia is not trying to start a war in Syria to expand its Empire in a quest for total world domination.







EG; I would have to agree on all points and Yes it seems Russia is more in line with Freedom than The USA--and that is a tragedy!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 01, 2013, 11:10:59 AM
The Nazis still want Russia for Lebensraum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum).

These Nazis want to lower the birth rate, and break up families, and other dark agendas. Russia is heading in the opposite direction, hence they must be demonized by the illuminati whore press.

Just look at the reality, Snowdon did not flee Russia to America land of the Free. Instead he fled from the Evil Empire and got sanctuary in Russia.

Russia is not trying to start a war in Syria to expand its Empire in a quest for total world domination.


+1.  Well spoken ... seems the US and Russia have swapped
agendas in the last few decades, in so many respects.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: phyrefly September 01, 2013, 12:33:31 PM
Acutally, yes, we can believe it. No, we don't buy it. The clued-up reader will high-tail it back to the archives for Obama's eye-tic, mentioned during the first primary. That there is some resonance with self-mutilation involved, and is why we speak of it. Another reason is the insurgence of Russian Orthodox Christianity. Putin's argument that secretly, the Russian state and the Russian people's christianity are one, is Freudian nursery pap. The Russian Old Believers in British Columbia (precisely where bark beetles have debauched the trees, in spite of christian conservation) are clued up about the khlysty, those Russian christians who practiced a very special form of mutilation: castration: "Secretly, you're a Catholic," wails, Carlos Castaneda.  The syllabus for studies in the separation of Church and State should include at least nine units:

1) Carl Gustav Jung, Why I Am Not A Catholic

2) Paul Klebnikov, Conversations with a Barbarian

3) Haegglund, Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life

4) Hodder, The Domestication of Europe

5) Apollon, A Lasting Heresy

6) Oberschall A, Seidman M, Food Coercion in Revolution and Civil War: Who Wins and How They Do It, Comparative Studies in Society and History (2005) 47:372-402

7) Julia Kristeva, The Sense and Non-Sense of Revolt

8) The Chinese Sky During the Han
(For the B.C. star chart in the back, showing in the constellation, Lupus, the asterism, Jizu,  'a group of soldiers.')

9) www. Postscript on the Societies of Control
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 01, 2013, 01:13:02 PM
Obama VS Putin              ROUND I.

  Putin is a tough son of a gun, no getting around it. Russia learned its lesson in Afghanistan, HARD TIMES, disgraced, shamed.
  When will we learn??.
  The elites want Syria, then what, --------Iran!
  They are monopolizing the telly with their suckling minions with the humanitarian war drum, bomb em , the humitarian way..
            My worry is there will be another gas attack staged to appear its Assad's regime to give these freaks more leverage.
                       Its showtime USA, how many in our congress want perpetual war,, show of hands, yeas and nays.
                     
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid September 01, 2013, 01:16:11 PM
I was just glancing at this thread and thinking how inside out the world has become. I recall growing up during the cold war, and now it seems everything is inverted. If I wanted to see a free and fair election, I would look at the russian model, and if I wanted to see a corrupt election I would look at the american election system.

Its like we have stepped through Alice's Looking Glass.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 01, 2013, 02:09:06 PM
I was just glancing at this thread and thinking how inside out the world has become. I recall growing up during the cold war, and now it seems everything is inverted. If I wanted to see a free and fair election, I would look at the russian model, and if I wanted to see a corrupt election I would look at the american election system.
Its like we have stepped through Alice's Looking Glass.
Hi E. The cold war, people scared out of their minds.. Do you remember the screachers, alert warnings  signalson street corners, the Emergency Broadcasts coming on the tube and radio..., this is a test BS. Hiding under our LIL desks if nuked, at school ..
      THE FEAR..........
Russia has it's problems, but Putin seems to be playing his cards wisely.
           
     
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 01, 2013, 02:45:19 PM
Acutally, yes, we can believe it. No, we don't buy it. The clued-up reader will high-tail it back to the archives for Obama's eye-tic, mentioned during the first primary. That there is some resonance with self-mutilation involved, and is why we speak of it. Another reason is the insurgence of Russian Orthodox Christianity. Putin's argument that secretly, the Russian state and the Russian people's christianity are one, is Freudian nursery pap. The Russian Old Believers in British Columbia (precisely where bark beetles have debauched the trees, in spite of christian conservation) are clued up about the khlysty, those Russian christians who practiced a very special form of mutilation: castration: "Secretly, you're a Catholic," wails, Carlos Castaneda.  The syllabus for studies in the separation of Church and State should include at least nine units:

1) Carl Gustav Jung, Why I Am Not A Catholic

2) Paul Klebnikov, Conversations with a Barbarian

3) Haegglund, Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life

4) Hodder, The Domestication of Europe

5) Apollon, A Lasting Heresy

6) Oberschall A, Seidman M, Food Coercion in Revolution and Civil War: Who Wins and How They Do It, Comparative Studies in Society and History (2005) 47:372-402

7) Julia Kristeva, The Sense and Non-Sense of Revolt

8) The Chinese Sky During the Han
(For the B.C. star chart in the back, showing in the constellation, Lupus, the asterism, Jizu,  'a group of soldiers.')

9) www. Postscript on the Societies of Control

... it's probably just me, but I don't get your posts ... they fly over
my head like August fireflies. Something about Obama's eye-tic,
bark beetles, Carlos Castaneda, mutilation, castration, Lupus and the
Old Believers in British Columbia.

Anyway, let's start with No. 1,
Carl Gustav Jung, Why I Am Not A Catholic:

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READ ARTICLE HERE:
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=246 (http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=246)

New Book Shows Scary Side of Jung
 
by Paul Likoudis

In the past 30 years, a "quiet revolution" has taken place in the Catholic Church as the psychoanalytical teachings of Carl Jung), replaced those of Jesus Christ, St. Paul, St. Augustine, and St. Thomas Aquinas in the "mainstream" of Catholic teaching in Western Europe and the United States-a revolution which most Catholics have not yet noticed.

How odd that the Swiss psychoanalyst, who considered himself the founder of a new religion to replace traditional Christianity, who wrote of his own "deification" as a lion-headed god from an ancient Aryan mystery cult, should achieve such pre-eminent status.

Odder yet, in our post-Holocaust world, that Jung, a virulent anti-Semite whom the British Foreign Office wanted tried at the Nuremberg war crimes trials as a Nazi pseudoscientist, should be embraced as a spiritual guide by millions of Catholics seeking psychological healing.

Even odder is the fact that Jung, an "apostle for adultery," who believed in (and practiced) polygamy, who devoted his life to overthrowing patriarchal society and reviving the ancient pagan gods of the libido, should have his "insights" into masculinity and femininity and sexuality upheld by a woman Dolores Leckey-who has headed the U.S. bishops' Marriage and Family Life Office in their national conference for 20 years!

These bizarre developments in the Catholic Church have not yet had the hearing they deserve, but a new book by Richard Noll., a clinical psychologist and lecturer in the history of science at Harvard University, should generate. some long-overdue discussion.

Two years after publishing The Jung Cult (Princeton University Press), which demonstrated that Jung deliberately founded a new religious movement, Noll is back with The Aryan Christ: The Secret Life of C. G. Jung (Random House), which presents even more explosive revelations detailing Jung's obsession with overthrowing orthodox Christianity.

Noll shows how Jung was, in many ways, the product of his environment. He was the grandson of an apostate Catholic and physician, Karl Gustav Jung, who rose high in Masonic and Illuminati circles. The elder Karl might have been-Carl Jung believed he was-the result of an adulterous affair between K. G.'s mother and Goethe; at any rate, adultery and Masonic mysticism and occultism would continue racing through the Jung genes.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Highland September 01, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
Why is it always about religion? Religion has started more wars than anything. The guy of course has some good ideas, so do agnostic people, or atheist, Jews, Muslim. People need to learn to accept one another for their differences and just get along.

So tired of war around every corner, or our country having to put their noses in it. Muslim countries have been at war for THOUSANDS of years and it will continue for a thousand more.

So let us evaluate the mans character (which is lacking in many departments) and leave religion out of it.
60 million Christians were left out of the deal in Russia. Tv news or even alternative news are not going to be talking about this particular situation. Funny thing about claimed non religious people is that they seem to go right to making up rules that they expect everyone to follow without remembering that with out any religion there are no rules. 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 12, 2013, 07:53:00 AM


... there is a good chance that this
businiss of Putin's 'taking the iniative'
in the Syrian crisis ... that is, pushing
for disarmament ... is purely a "good cop,
bad cop" ploy cooked up by TPTB, for
whatever reason ... I don't know. But
my gut feeling says it is for real, that
Russia has, indeed, thrown a monkeywrench
into the US warplans ... at least temporarily.
Whatever the case ... and outcome ... Putin
has NO DOUBT elevated himself and his country
in the war-weary eyes of the civilized world ...
myself included:



As Obama Pauses Action, Putin Takes Center Stage

By STEVEN LEE MYERS
Published: September 11, 2013

MOSCOW — President Vladimir V. Putin has been many things to President Obama: a partner at times, an irritant more often, the host of the elusive Edward J. Snowden and “the bored kid in the back of the classroom” who offered so little on the administration’s foreign policy goals that Mr. Obama canceled plans to hold a summit meeting in Moscow last week.

Yet suddenly Mr. Putin has eclipsed Mr. Obama as the world leader driving the agenda in the Syria crisis. He is offering a potential, if still highly uncertain, alternative to what he has vocally criticized as America’s militarism and reasserted Russian interests in a region where it had been marginalized since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Although circumstances could shift yet again, Mr. Putin appears to have achieved several objectives, largely at Washington’s expense. He has handed a diplomatic lifeline to his longtime ally in Syria, President Bashar al-Assad, who not long ago appeared at risk of losing power and who President Obama twice said must step down. He has stopped Mr. Obama from going around the United Nations Security Council, where Russia holds a veto, to assert American priorities unilaterally.

In an Op-Ed article in The New York Times released on Wednesday, Mr. Putin laid down a strong challenge to Mr. Obama’s vision of how to address the turmoil, arguing that a military strike risked “spreading the conflict far beyond Syria’s borders” and would violate international law, undermining postwar stability.

HERE'S THE OP-ED from PUTIN ~~~> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html)

READ ARTICLE at NYT HERE: ~~~>http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/world/europe/as-obama-pauses-action-putin-takes-center-stage.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130912 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/world/europe/as-obama-pauses-action-putin-takes-center-stage.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130912)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 12, 2013, 09:16:30 AM
 Utopia, show me! Not on this planet.
However I get high on the truth, Putin is anti-war-ant-invasion.  Depiste all the HS thats spit at him he is one voice that recognizes the the catastrophe if Syria is attacked.
  By the way, he is a Chrisitan as  was his mother. Even if he was an athiest I'd give him creds for attemtping to stop this USA syndicate from genociding yet another nation..Syria , human beings live there, a tad of respect for life goes a long way.
  Sending weapons to the Al-Qaeda, funding them, providing mercs, intell, shames this nation.
Is their a master plan, for sure the neocons have one and are not pleased Putin told them to muck off and stop invading nations.
   Take the truth whever ya find it folks, you may not like this guy , his doemstic platform, but he doesn't seem to like genocide, our regime does.
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc September 12, 2013, 09:52:29 AM

... there is a good chance that this
businiss of Putin's 'taking the iniative'
in the Syrian crisis ... that is, pushing
for disarmament ... is purely a "good cop,
bad cop" ploy cooked up by TPTB, for
whatever reason ... I don't know. But
my gut feeling says it is for real, that
Russia has, indeed, thrown a monkeywrench
into the US warplans ... at least temporarily.
Whatever the case ... and outcome ... Putin
has NO DOUBT elevated himself and his country
in the war-weary eyes of the civilized world ...
myself included:
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  Agreed.  We still have to sleep with one eye open.  If the NWO REALLY WANTS TO GO TO WAR, I'M LOOKING FOR A HUGE FALSE FLAG that they will blame on some group of terrorists affiliated with Syria.  Just a hunch.  I hope it doesn't happen.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 12, 2013, 02:37:27 PM
 The only possible way they could pull of an attack is an FF..                         Thats a  Bump larson.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 14, 2013, 10:18:27 AM


... our old friend and excellent
commentator, PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
gives us his take on the re-emergence
of V. Putin and, by extension, Russia:


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Putin Steps Into World Leadership Role

September 12, 2013

Putin’s article in the September 11 New York Times has the stuck pigs squealing. The squealing stuck pigs are just who you thought they would be–all those whose agendas and profits would be furthered by an attack on Syria by the obama Stasi regime.

Included among the squealing stuck pigs are Human Rights Watch bloggers who seem to be financed out of the CIA’s back pocket.

Does any institution remain that has not been corrupted by Washington’s money?

Notice that the reason Putin is being criticized is that he has blocked the obama regime from attacking Syria and slaughtering countless numbers of Syrians in the name of human rights. The stuck pigs are outraged that obama’s war has been blocked. They were so much looking forward to the mass slaughter that they believe would advance their profits and agendas.

Most of Putin’s critics are too intellectually challenged to comprehend that Putin’s brilliant and humane article has left Putin the leader of the free world and defender of the rule of law and exposed obama for what he is–the leader of a rogue, lawless, unaccountable government committed to lies and war crimes.

The destabilization of other countries is precisely the main aim of Washington’s wars in the Middle East. Washington intends for radicalization of Muslims to spread strife into the Muslim populations of Russia and China.

READ ARTICLE HERE ~~~>
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/09/12/putin-steps-into-world-leadership-role-paul-craig-roberts/ (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/09/12/putin-steps-into-world-leadership-role-paul-craig-roberts/)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 14, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
Holly..  Good summary..  Thanks..............
           American need to face up to the fact the neocons WANT perpetual war..
                    The elites are Pizzed, they assumed it would be a peice of cake.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 14, 2013, 03:18:06 PM
                Remember, the USSR went broke in Afghanistan..
   
          Putin didn't say to much about the invasion did he at the time, or have I missed something here.
 
        He is sitting back watching the USA debt increase, that's all.        Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, etc..

 He hit on a humanitarian note, why blow up more humans? OK, he's right, but surely Russia and Assad have serious money involved.

               Why waste a bullet when the elites are bringing down this nation from the inside,  going out of business   sale prices.
                             American pie on sale USA..CHEAP..........Were getting there.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 14, 2013, 03:32:26 PM

( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo) )


Chris:
"American pie on sale USA..CHEAP"

... maybe next we will hear
Vlad singin' this one:
            ;D

AMERICAN PIE ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ecvBaqHBk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ecvBaqHBk)



: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 14, 2013, 03:50:47 PM
 Holly, thanks ........... the blast from the past...

 There is one other song that hits on it,, my memory is weakening, but it was something like.
    Somethings happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear...Everbody look whats going round...
   What the heck was the name of that one do ya know?
   Sorry to go off the map, but whats going on now USA ,,,,went down before........
    
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: shipgeek September 14, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
VLADIMIR PUTIN ~ "BLUEBERRY HILL":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo)


I think former Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi does a much better job as a singer.
He is a real pro at the genre really spontaneous and natural and having a great time with the crowd.

Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uMuV2iKWpw

and this - go to 1:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFJEZQw7a2Y

 ;D

He and Vladimir Putin are good friends. Putin often visits Berlusconi in his mansion in Sardinia.

In fact Putin owns a place in Sardinia too, and also another place with a full panoramic view on the hills above Monte Carlo nearby Prince Albert (former Grace Kelly's) residence.

He knows how to hide his game.

 ::)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: shipgeek September 14, 2013, 04:38:33 PM
Holly, thanks ........... the blast from the past...

 There is one other song that hits on it,, my memory is weakening, but it was something like.
    Somethings happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear...Everbody look whats going round...
   What the heck was the name of that one do ya know?

   Sorry to go off the map, but whats going on now USA ,,,,went down before........
    

Is this the song you're talking about?

Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth 1967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY

 ::)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight September 14, 2013, 04:40:42 PM
I gotta say it again. Do not trust this guy. Do not walk into the trap. I do not want war. I think many of our politicians need to answer for their crimes, but all this blathering over this guy is making me sick. Why don't you just get on your knees and let him walk right in.


Russia’s Shadow Wars

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/15/russias-shadow-wars

The bottom line for the Russian defense structure is the fact that it no longer has a readily available enemy land force to either threaten or defend against. Large numbers of Russian infantry and tanks are not needed to protect Russia’s eastern or western reaches. In the contemporary strategic world it is the nuclear-armed Russian navy and air force along with missiles of every range that are the true heirs of Peter the Great’s historic forces. And in more modern times there can be no comparison between the dynamic Marshal Georgy Zhukov of World War II and General Makarov of today — no matter the latter’s posturing.

Makarov and his boss, Vladimir Putin, still firmly believe in the Cold War guide of having a powerful enemy against whom Russia can rant. Peaceful competition just doesn’t seem to be enough. Of course, neither the general nor the president really wants war. They want ascertainable enemies whom they can blame for Russia’s shortcomings. It may seem too obviously self-serving, but it’s true. The only lasting legacy of Soviet communism is the instinct to see the West as behind all of Russia’s faults.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wars_involving_Russia
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Monkeypox September 14, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Nature abhors a vacuum - Obamarx's total lack of leadership left a vacuum - and Putin is filling it.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Monkeypox September 14, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
Holly, thanks ........... the blast from the past...

 There is one other song that hits on it,, my memory is weakening, but it was something like.
    Somethings happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear...Everbody look whats going round...
   What the heck was the name of that one do ya know?
   Sorry to go off the map, but whats going on now USA ,,,,went down before........
    

Buffalo Springfield "Something's Happening Here".
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Anon27 September 14, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
Nature abhors a vacuum - Obamarx's total lack of leadership left a vacuum - and Putin is filling it.

Sad state of affairs when a former Commie exemplifies leadership.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Dorrogeray September 14, 2013, 06:40:01 PM
I gotta say it again. Do not trust this guy. Do not walk into the trap. I do not want war. I think many of our politicians need to answer for their crimes, but all this blathering over this guy is making me sick. Why don't you just get on your knees and let him walk right in.

Agreed. But as a balance of power in the short to medium term, he might do some good, whether consciously or not. Cue Syria.

They want ascertainable enemies whom they can blame for Russia’s shortcomings. It may seem too obviously self-serving, but it’s true. The only lasting legacy of Soviet communism is the instinct to see the West as behind all of Russia’s faults.

No kidding. Every state wants that, along with crime and insecurity (of all sorts, financial, physical, psychical, etc). Otherwise the truth would become too obvious to see.. the fact that the state is just a concept used by parasitical class to transfer wealth and disguise agression & evil as virtue & peace.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 14, 2013, 06:58:33 PM


... I agree that Putin is no doubt stinkin' rich,
like ALL the Uber-elite ... however, let's hope,
with his middle-class background, that he has
not lost his heart & soul to the Dark Side ... his
policies and public posture certainly give us some
reason for optimism. Don't forget JFK ... rich boy
with a social conscience, who stood his ground.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 14, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
He defends his nations intersts & that of innocents &  possibly full blown war M.E.
  Are the rebels, Al_Q's being funded, by eltes or not, weapons, money, mercs, contractors, agency intell, or not?.
Did our muppets order out military to attack an innocent nation, Iraq or not, did they deceive us or were they on the level about Iraq's WMD's.         Or was genociding Americans citizens choice.
  Lybia, was it simply to get  Gaddafi wacked and take over, did these fine old rebbs torture and sodomize him with a knife.
Did the regime disregard the Geneva convention when waterboarding  and torturing.
  Was it necessary to invade Aghanistan under the Guize we were hunting the brains behind 911.
Was Bengahiz hit by by who, what was Stevens realy doing, and why the coverup.
Am I a Russian, NO, do I go along with all their domestic  tactics. their gov policy , NO..      &     NOR  Ours either.
  He hit a note, why begin a total clustermuck...  Haven't the elites made enough money and domestically degraded out nation, both financial and morally..
  Is this realy about sarin gas, or was it staged to appear to be. ( the results prove no dice brothers, thisd was HS)

Go figure.. The had their Afhganistan, the result were a no win, neither are ours. WHO, profits$$$ and gains controll...
  Has the regime robbed our coffers and left us in a generation of debt, perpetual war and invasion will deterime the fat of this nation if the people don't wake the mcuk up, Putin may be using this to get an edge, so what, he is not genociding to do this.
  Simply wiaiting for the deteroration of the OLE USA, along with many other nations, including the entity within our borders and in high places.
 
 
 

 

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 14, 2013, 11:39:52 PM


 ... here's a couple interesting videos ... Putin
and his religion (Catholic) ... to me, he comes off
as thoroughly authentic, not some faux religionist
like so many politicians, no matter the country
or the religion in question.

What do you think?


VLADIMIR PUTIN SPEAKS ABOUT HIS BAPTISM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXhHqfMFLCI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXhHqfMFLCI)


PUTIN AND THE CHURCH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgWVAfHNZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgWVAfHNZM)



: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Monkeypox September 15, 2013, 03:48:45 AM

Don't forget JFK ... rich boy with a social conscience, who stood his ground.


and got his head blown off.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 September 15, 2013, 04:52:35 AM
The Big Put-On by Putin?

When did we move The Statue of Liberty: from America to Russia?

 Well, I, Will not fall for the Put-On, and I will not look to the Commie for my FREEDOM!

 An enemy will always give lip service and friendship: Before they backstab and cut-throat you!

 To Russia with Love: a spy flick: the Man from KGB: a worldwide Put-On Reality Show!

My Freedoms come from GOD and The Constitution: NOT FROM A RAT-MAGGOT COMMIE JUDAS INVERTEBRATE ---

What goes to Russia stays in Russia: and I say Stuff It You Commies...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 15, 2013, 07:22:23 AM
The Big Put-On by Putin?

When did we move The Statue of Liberty: from America to Russia?

 Well, I, Will not fall for the Put-On, and I will not look to the Commie for my FREEDOM!

 An enemy will always give lip service and friendship: Before they backstab and cut-throat you!

 To Russia with Love: a spy flick: the Man from KGB: a worldwide Put-On Reality Show!

My Freedoms come from GOD and The Constitution: NOT FROM A RAT-MAGGOT COMMIE JUDAS INVERTEBRATE ---

What goes to Russia stays in Russia: and I say Stuff It You Commies...
                               Iamc, are you comparing Russias big dogs to ours?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 September 15, 2013, 08:24:06 AM
                               Iamc, are you comparing Russias big dogs to ours?

 Hi, mr. jones; The Dogs in The Cage are all the SAME BREED---LAP DOGS--- >:(----and ALL OF THEM PISS ME OFF!

 Put-On  >:(; O'Bumbles  >:(...1st O' Liar says he a Christian? Then Put-Up or Shut-Up Yells out JESUS?

 Now Put-a-Knife' in your back is all of a sudden our hero? WELL NOT MINE!

 I know that America has "Fallen from GRACE"---but I'll be Dammed if I let some COMMIE WIN, by PUTTIN Us into the GROUND!  ;D
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver September 15, 2013, 09:10:13 AM

 Hi, mr. jones; The Dogs in The Cage are all the SAME BREED---LAP DOGS--- >:(----and ALL OF THEM PISS ME OFF!

 Put-On  >:(; O'Bumbles  >:(...1st O' Liar says he a Christian? Then Put-Up or Shut-Up Yells out JESUS?

 Now Put-a-Knife' in your back is all of a sudden our hero? WELL NOT MINE!

 I know that America has "Fallen from GRACE"---but I'll be Dammed if I let some COMMIE WIN, by PUTTIN Us into the GROUND!  ;D


(http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/pix/best-enemy.png)

I  agree .   The Soviet Bear and The American Eagle are both children of wall street and are not to be put on a pedestal ever.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 15, 2013, 11:14:39 AM
  No, I'm not praising communism or Putin for president ,,or I wouldn't be posting here.
     I'm not  Putting this guy on a pedistal, NOPE.. I just can't can't ignore the truth, be it Putin or Elmer Fudd.
     I honestly don't give a twit if cone heads landed and said we, the USA were in trouble, and more war, perpetual war is not going to keep this nation prospering or FREE.
     Take the truth where ya find it, the source for me is irrevelant as long as it the bottom line TRUTH.
I said this before but it needs a breif look see:  PUTIN-He defends his nations interests & that of innocents &  possibly full blown war M.E.
     If that isn't true, please advise me!

  I beleive I said Putin doesn't have to do a thing to see this nation fall, our nation is being sucked dry the elite parasites here USA.
  I don't give a sweet shiite if he is calling for peace or it was Donald mucken duck,if some of you feel I have harranged this subject on a unAmerican basis, let me know.
  I believe, but most folks want to end the abomination, PERPETUAL WAR. Or are  we to go ahead and blow the shiite out of Syria simply because Putin asked the regime to reconsider their options diplomatically..We'll show this commie f**K and blow up Syria , we'll show him...WTM.
  You guys tell me, is Putin wrong to seek peace,or should we blow the shiite out of Syria!
Iamc, I'm not Russian or a commie, but I like the idea of halting perpetual warfare for the elite shiits or for that matter a WWIII.
  Putting him on a pedestal, NO, JUST recognizing the fact we, this nation is on the edge of the Abyss hanging on by a thread.
Ya just  aren't gettin my point, I care a tad more about the innocent lives, and our nation than I do about whosoever on this planet is attempting to show a tad of sanity.
 Politics asside, this guy doesn't want Syria bombed, is he wrong?


 ;)

iamc...The Big Put-On by Putin?
When did we move The Statue of Liberty: from America to Russia?  Kinda over the line brother.
 Well, I, Will not fall for the Put-On, and I will not look to the Commie for my FREEDOM!
 An enemy will always give lip service and friendship: Before they backstab and cut-throat you!
 To Russia with Love: a spy flick: the Man from KGB: a worldwide Put-On Reality Show!
My Freedoms come from GOD and The Constitution: NOT FROM A RAT-MAGGOT COMMIE JUDAS INVERTEBRATE ---
What goes to Russia stays in Russia: and I say Stuff It You Commies..
 
     
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 September 15, 2013, 11:43:21 AM
  No, I'm not praising communism or Putin for president ,,or I wouldn't be posting here.
     I'm not  Putting this guy on a pedistal, NOPE.. I just can't can't ignore the truth, be it Putin or Elmer Fudd.
     I honestly don't give a twit if cone heads landed and said we, the USA were in trouble, and more war, perpetual war is not going to keep this nation prospering or FREE.
     Take the truth where ya find it, the source for me is irrevelant as long as it the bottom line TRUTH.
I said this before but it needs a breif look see:  PUTIN-He defends his nations interests & that of innocents &  possibly full blown war M.E.
     If that isn't true, please advise me!

  I beleive I said Putin doesn't have to do a thing to see this nation fall, our nation is being sucked dry the elite parasites here USA.
  I don't give a sweet shiite if he is calling for peace or it was Donald mucken duck,if some of you feel I have harranged this subject on a unAmerican basis, let me know.
  I believe, but most folks want to end the abomination, PERPETUAL WAR. Or are  we to go ahead and blow the shiite out of Syria simply because Putin asked the regime to reconsider their options diplomatically..We'll show this commie f**K and blow up Syria , we'll show him...WTM.
  You guys tell me, is Putin wrong to seek peace,or should we blow the shiite out of Syria!
Iamc, I'm not Russian or a commie, but I like the idea of halting perpetual warfare for the elite shiits or for that matter a WWIII.
  Putting him on a pedestal, NO, JUST recognizing the fact we, this nation is on the edge of the Abyss hanging on by a thread.
Ya just  aren't gettin my point, I care a tad more about the innocent lives, and our nation than I do about whosoever on this planet is attempting to show a tad of sanity.
 Politics asside, this guy doesn't want Syria bombed, is he wrong?


 ;)

iamc...The Big Put-On by Putin?
When did we move The Statue of Liberty: from America to Russia?  Kinda over the line brother.
 Well, I, Will not fall for the Put-On, and I will not look to the Commie for my FREEDOM!
 An enemy will always give lip service and friendship: Before they backstab and cut-throat you!
 To Russia with Love: a spy flick: the Man from KGB: a worldwide Put-On Reality Show!
My Freedoms come from GOD and The Constitution: NOT FROM A RAT-MAGGOT COMMIE JUDAS INVERTEBRATE ---
What goes to Russia stays in Russia: and I say Stuff It You Commies..
 
     
My Friend, Mr.jones "I'm With you! I get what is going on! I DO NOT WANT WAR! I believe Putin is Putting On a Global Mind Game! as for the Dogs, to me, they are all alike---Lap Dogs to Money, Power and Control. The USA has slipped down the slope of Socialism; we're not at the bottom yet: but close! I will not give up on America; as I read and see many fleeing the ship: Like Roaches in the Dark...Fight or Flight...as for me and the clan....we'll stay put-in our own land...Your Posts and Comment are always in the ballpark Mr. c.jones.. :)! The Statue of Liberty comment was in symbolic reference to, in my opinion, people, world wide, looking to Russia for peace and freedom: when behind, all the moves we see...they all play for the same franchise: The New World Order...I still do not like: Nazis' nor Commies...Peace my friend...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 15, 2013, 02:14:18 PM
The New World Order...I still do not like: Nazis' nor Commies... 
                Peace my friend...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 15, 2013, 03:29:54 PM
  It's convoluted isn't it.. Putin has persuaded Assad to give up the sirin gas..
  This avoids the insanity of USA strikes....but...What remains to be seen is our regime NEOCONS continue to arm and finance the rebels.
 
                    Tit for tat,.......... not if our illustrious leaders continue funding the insanity..
 One liner..Assad may go along and have the gas removed, BUT will the rebels?...ya know, those guys LIL Johny Mac hangs with.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid September 15, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
The thing is the NWO + Rothschild 'oligarchs' thought they had it all. The bankrupted russia, dismantled the armed forces, sold off every state owned biz to the rothschild agents... all while Boris drunk the kremiln dry.

Then Putin said "No", (an ex-KGB hardman and patriot).


If you want to view Putin with suspicion, kindly consider also viewing the likes of Ron Paul with equal suspicion.

Or maybe, just maybe rethink it.  ;D
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: One Revelator September 15, 2013, 05:29:26 PM
Oh, Putin is no saint! Anybody remember Alexander Lebed and the suitcase bombs? He actually ran for President in '96.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Evstafiev-general-alexander-lebed17oct96.jpg/200px-Evstafiev-general-alexander-lebed17oct96.jpg)

On 7 September 1997, the CBS newsmagazine Sixty Minutes broadcast an alarming story in which former Russian National Security Adviser Aleksandr Lebed claimed that the Russian military had lost track of more than 100 suitcase-sized nuclear bombs, any one of which could kill up to 100,000 people.

"I'm saying that more than a hundred weapons out of the supposed number of 250 are not under the control of the armed forces of Russia," Lebed said in the interview. "I don't know their location. I don't know whether they have been destroyed or whether they are stored or whether they've been sold or stolen, I don't know."

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/News/Lebedbomb.html

Well, a couple of years after this, Lebed just so happened to die in a helicopter crash. Putin was president at the time and there was speculation that he was taking care of unfinished business. Nothing provable, of course.

Interesting that the John Titor writings paint this developing scenario. They speak of a civil war in the US that gets resolved through Russian military intervention. Patriots/Russia vs the Evil Feds. This was posted online around the year 2000. I am convinced that these writings were from an insider revealing one of several possible plans toward achieving a New World Order.

Also, around this time, does anybody remember Gorbachev being fawned over by the media? Rush Limbaugh was complaining about people in the US having “gorbazms”. I believe this was set up to float the idea of Russia being the “good guys” to the American public.

Is all of this scripted? I don’t know. But I’m not the only one to note a role change developing between the US and Russia.

One thing’s for sure. While the Obama administration can ignore it’s own public’s opinion, it cannot ignore an international move backed by military force. For those in the UK, does “War is the sport of kings” sound familiar? I heard that first from a Brit. If so, then who are the king's advisers?

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 15, 2013, 05:57:09 PM


Hi Rev.
For those in the UK, does “War is the sport of kings” sound familiar? I heard that first from a Brit. If so, then who are the king's advisers?
   I have lived through the cold war, many here as well have.
FEAR, TERROR, the cits were panicking. Both here and in the USSR. Who is going to be the first push the button Horse shitte..
  I mention this as FEAR is an agent of controll, so is inbred hatred. To clear that up, I'm not saying I trust the Russian regime, they have their own agenda..
  IF a revolution began I have a deep down gut feeling the Russky's wouldn't want to be the guys chasing down American dissidents, roaming the streets. I do beleive our DHS and other FED agencys would take the lead,  troops may be on home turf/ Martial Law, at some point depending on the circumstances NATO troops would be alerted.
  Why risk their troops when they can keep the high ground & as our regime (elites) are doing a fine job of bringing the house down  all on itself.
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: One Revelator September 15, 2013, 06:41:25 PM
Cold War. Brilliant wasn’t it? Everybody in the MIC struck it rich. We had a wartime economy without actual war. The public was skeered. And it got to go on for an extended amount of time milking away at the US Treasury because nobody was coming back in body bags. The public approved!

“Titor’s” prediction calls for a civil war in the US gets polarized between cities that follow the federal government and people that live in the country. He characterizes himself as one of the country people. Thus, when Russia attacks the major cities and the US Government, he sees it as attacking his enemies.

Here’s an excerpt written in 2001. The Russian attack is nuclear.
From the age of 8 to 12, we lived away from the cities and spent most of our time in a farm community with other families avoiding conflict with the federal police and national guard. By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the “cities” and the “country” was well defined. My father made a living by putting together 12-volt electrical systems and sailing “commodities” up and down the coast of Florida. I spent most of my time helping him.

Outright open fighting was common by then and I joined a shotgun infantry unit in 2011. I served with the “Fighting Diamondbacks” for about 4 years. (Hearing in my right ear isn’t as good as I would like it). The civil war ended in 2015 when Russia attacked the U.S. cities (our enemy), China and Europe.

I can kind of see this scenario developing. Has this been the elite’s plan (or one of them at least) all along?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 15, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
Hi Rev. to quote ya:“Titor’s” prediction calls for a civil war in the US gets polarized between cities that follow the federal government and people that live in the country. He characterizes himself as one of the country people. Thus, when Russia attacks the major cities and the US Government, he sees it as attacking his enemies.

The hit is financial, breaking the OLE bank USA (perpetual war)=domestic deterioration.
        It has all been going down from the inside.. The day JFK was murdered and Lydon took the throne, it has been a process of one deception after another, bringing us to this point.
       
These stats are not recent, but may give ya an idea how this will work, just my opinion.
        The largest portion of U.S. debt, 68 cents for every dollar or about $10 trillion, is owned by individual investors, corporations, state and local governments and, yes, even foreign governments such as China that hold Treasury bills, notes and bonds.
Foreign governments hold about 46 percent of all U.S. debt held by the public, more than $4.5 trillion. The largest foreign holder of U.S. debt is China, which owns more about $1.2 trillion in bills, notes and bonds, according to the Treasury.
       It's an inside job controlled by those on high. Why nuke us when this mob can break us and simply waltz in and take a slice of the pie.

         
         
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: One Revelator September 15, 2013, 11:23:44 PM
Why nuke us when this mob can break us and simply waltz in and take a slice of the pie.

Because that’s scheduled for later.  The government is currently in print-and-spend mode. They’re not poor. They can afford to waste money on some office that resembles the Star Trek Enterprise bridge and not worry about it. I certainly don’t see the international banking system doing anything to stop this.

The part of the country that is being slowly impoverished is the US citizens. All that’s happening now is an ever widening gap between the haves and the have-nots. This creates desperation, fear, possible dependency. It definitely opens the door to being coerced by the government to do as they say.

Right now there are record numbers of families that are on food stamps for instance. They have a financial interest in going along with whatever agenda the government decrees, no matter how immoral or insane that agenda is. That is their means of survival. But what about the awake people? They’ve already moved away from cities and infrastructure and seek to be more self-sufficient. They have basically told the government where to stick their food stamps. They hunt. They attempt to grow their own food, generate their own heat and electric.

Meanwhile, small arms sales have gone viral. People that wouldn’t touch a firearm years ago now find themselves armed, trained, and carrying. Check. That’s almost complete.

And so we have a new rift. There are those who are blindly supporting an ever more tyrannical government for a few table scraps and delusions on grandeur and those who are telling the government to get stuffed. There’s the Titor city/country analogy. Check. That’s almost complete.

How’s the reputation of the US Government amongst the international community ATM? Well, after Abu-Ghraib. Falluja, and bombing countries for the hell of it, I’d say it’s not looking too good. How’s the general morality of the nation after all the social engineering that we’ve been through? Our reputation as a nation is gone. Check. If the USA did not have military might or leading financial influence, then I can’t think of any reason for this nation to exist from an international POV. We don’t really manufacture anything. GMO and chemicals taint the food we produce.

Enter RT. Where did they come from? Why do they seem to stand with pro-constitutionalists? I submit that that was no accident, but perfectly timed. Why is Putin suddenly made up to be a hero to the people within the US with Christian values? Could this be setting the stage for a future event?

<puts on elite hat>

If I were in control of the world economy, I would have control over all nations and would make incremental plans to accomplish my objective. The elite announced years ago that the USA would HAVE to become a third-world nation. That is the goal. If I destroy that country’s economic/military structure through a nuclear exchange then the objective is complete. All the while, the remnant, the people with old-fashioned values, the pro-constitutionalists that could never have stopped the march toward tyranny of their own government with mere small arms…those people will support my decision to stop the tyrants. All the world is my stage and nations are my actors whether they realize it or not. The script may take 20 or 50 years to execute. It may undergo tweaks or revisions. But my goals will be accomplished.

<removes elite hat>

I’m just saying that the Vladimir Putin thing just caused too many things to click into place to make this future "Titor" scenario plausible. Note that even after this nuclear exchange, major corporations are still intact. Titor's "time machine" is manufactured by GE.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: donnay September 16, 2013, 12:47:34 AM
The thing is the NWO + Rothschild 'oligarchs' thought they had it all. The bankrupted russia, dismantled the armed forces, sold off every state owned biz to the rothschild agents... all while Boris drunk the kremiln dry.

Then Putin said "No", (an ex-KGB hardman and patriot).


If you want to view Putin with suspicion, kindly consider also viewing the likes of Ron Paul with equal suspicion.

Or maybe, just maybe rethink it.  ;D



Ron Paul's record is out there for anyone to see--when he speaks, he needs no interpreters or teleprompters.  He has been consistent for 30 years and his record speaks for itself.  I do not recall Ron Paul being in the CIA--as a matter of fact he wanted to see the CIA disbanded.
  
Putin's record is where?  We know he is a former KGB agent. 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 16, 2013, 05:03:12 AM
REV.
         I  liked the first few chapters of your post, the methodry hits the nail on the head.
Especially so your mentioning that the powers want America 3rd. World status. The upper class and the poor, the Roman empire repeat  of the collapse.
         Some rag on about Putin's input to remove the Sarin Gas as if this was not  necessary, to aknowledge the fact had we bombed Gas storage areas reserves, (as was one of their plans), the genocide would have made Iraq look like a walk in the park. Had the Al-Q, Jihadists & mercs (with the funding of weapons and financial support from regimists) got the hands on the gas they would have used it.
         The fat lady hasn't finished singing. The abomination is far from over.

         
         
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 22, 2013, 01:54:25 PM

IF YOU THINK PUTIN IS A 'COMMIE THUG', THINK AGAIN!


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MORE HERE ~~~>http://tomatobubble.com/putin_anti_communist.html (http://tomatobubble.com/putin_anti_communist.html)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: JT Coyoté September 22, 2013, 04:27:18 PM
I was just glancing at this thread and thinking how inside out the world has become. I recall growing up during the cold war, and now it seems everything is inverted. If I wanted to see a free and fair election, I would look at the russian model, and if I wanted to see a corrupt election I would look at the american election system.

Its like we have stepped through Alice's Looking Glass.


Putin is merely acting in the interest of his people realizing that the globalists are eugenicist psychopaths who wish to destroy humanity on the earth... he is working through the Russian system for the good of the Russian people whatever is motives may be will be seen as time unfolds.

The evil is government especially in the hands of corrupt heads that have taken control... the founders were knowledgeable of the necessity of some government, a very limited non-centralized government to regulate certain services and protections always under the oversight and control of the body-politic, the people.

But the people must be taught the rules... they and their interest requires their knowledge of the workings as well as their participation for our system to work.

You've seen what happens when people become aware and become vocal in mass as has been the case in this Syrian war thing... using the republic, their voice, as designed by holding their representatives feet to the Constitutional fire, has forestalled WWIII

Our system was designed to preserve liberty in the hands of the people... BUT they must use their freedom to maintain this free system... freedom is not laziness, apathy, nor can it be procrastinated. If it so becomes, evil and designing men will be free to busy themselves creating combines that monopolize the system under a framework of laws that will unfold across the landscape of the world, a tyranny second to none in history.

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Oldyoti

"The condition upon which God hath given liberty
to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he
break, servitude is at once the consequence of
his crime, and the punishment of his guilt."

~John Philpot Curran, July 10, 1790, in Dublin
Irish lawyer and politician,(1750-1817).





: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 22, 2013, 05:17:24 PM
 I'm glad to see that JT.
 The USSR had their Afghanistan and went bust,  seems to me Putin is concentrating on putting his country back on line and giving his people a glimmer of hope. Stalin whacked out his own people, genocide, but it is in schoolbooks for the kids..+
 He has done right for his people.. Many folks immediately relate Russia to the communist USSR, the kneejerk thing /syndrome the commies are coming..Could it be they wised up in 1993 and decided to take care of their own.
The USSR was not quite the same as the Russia I'm seeing. I appreciate the post JT..I'm suprised that Russia has the lowest debt of ANY SUPERPOWERS, I WAS STILL IN THE BELEIF THAY HADN'T RECOVERED FULLY FROM AFGHANISTAN.
  These Neocons have put us into the largest debt on the planet, wars, wars and more wars.. Do I trust Putin, heck I don't trust any of them untill I see concrete evidence to back up their methods/goals. Is he doing right for his people,it looks that way doesn't it.
  Is our grand Ole Neocon regime doing right for the citizens of thiss  nation, doesn't look that way does it. Puting it mildly..

 
Politics of Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Russia
Faced with these setbacks, Yeltsin addressed the nation directly to announce ... The 1993 constitution declares Russia a democratic, federative, law-based state ...
‎Historical background - ‎Constitution and government ... - ‎Executive branch
Has Democracy Failed Russia? | The National Interest
nationalinterest.org/.../has-democracy-failed-russia-9...‎

The sudden collapse of the Soviet Union was immediately taken as vindication of Western values and proof of the superiority of both market economics and a ... 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie September 22, 2013, 11:51:22 PM
Wow, tiptoeing into this chest-beating den of Putin applause is scary.

I have YET to see much in this forum about RUSSIAN use of scalar weaponry.  Many threads on HAARP, but very little on how Russia has 'tested' and used their superior knowledge in this department.  They have been working on this technology for way longer than the U.S.  If you follow any of Lt Col Bearden's work:
 http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm

He (and others) firmly believe that scalar was what Kruschev was talking about WAY back in the 60's when he claimed that the Soviet Union had just developed the most  advanced weapon known to man.  Bearden and others claim that the Russians used scalar to down the Challenger...amongst other things.  And what about the shooting down of KAL 007 in 1983...the plane that U.S. Representative Larry McDonald was flying on.  Who was he? 

This man, whose presence may have made Flight 007 a target of the Soviets, was, according to Warren P. Mass writing in The New American (click here) in 1988, "becoming the unifying force of American, and even international, anti-Communists."  Mass states that "by assuming the chairmanship of the John Birch Society, establishing the Western Goals Foundation... and serving on the boards of the Conservative Caucus and the Committee for the Survival of a Free Congress, Larry McDonald became the most dangerous enemy the Communists had."  This was strengthened by the fact that McDonald assembled a private intelligence network against communist infiltration while serving on the House Armed Services Committee.  

US Representative Ron Paul told the Philadelphia Inquirer that "he was the most principled" man in Congress.

Larry's awareness of spreading communism began when he was a naval flight surgeon in Reykjavik, Iceland, assigned to both fighter squadrons and the embassy.  "He thought the U. S. Embassy appeared to be doing things advantageous to the communists," but was told that he didn't "understand the big picture."

During and after his time in the reserve, his interest in fighting communism and preserving "what remained of the American constitutional republic" grew more intense.  When he came home, he read everything about history, government, and foreign policy he could get his hands on.  "He also looked around for anyone else concerned about communism," said his brother, Dr. Harold McDonald Jr.

Congressman McDonald served almost nine years in the House of Representatives, fighting for his deeply held belief that the federal government must return to abiding by Christian principles and the Constitution.

http://www.rescue007.org/larry_mcdonald.htm

According to Bearden and others, Russia has been using scalar on the U.S. for years, in addition to other countries.  Also according to him, the U.S. has been targeted not long ago for major attacks with Russian scalar, which were thwarted by a couple of other 'little' U.S.-friendly countries that ALSO have scalar weaponry that is WAY ahead of ours.

Which of course, makes the whole "Iran is on their way to nuclear weapons" B.S. just that - a whole load of B.S.    Nuclear weapons are obsolete with scalar wave armaments in the marketplace.  If the Yakuza can lease them from Russia,  Iran can too.

 ???

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 23, 2013, 12:40:16 AM
^ ^ ^ ^

Sophie, I am not so sure about FREE ENERGY
and the SCALAR weaponry scare. I know
Bearden is the guru of "free energy" ... and
I am very hopeful that something will come
of it ... but at this point ~~> :(

However, I am a big proponent of the "electrical universe"
theories ... and I believe that we at some point
will plug-in!

 ... but I thought Bearden (who has admitted he bought his 'doctorate'
from a degree mill) and the SCALAR WARS alternate histories had been
thoroughly debunked. Anyway, Russia and Putin are not nearly the
War Hawks the US and Obama are ... not even close!

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The world's top 5 (sic ~ 7) military spenders in 2012.
Figures sourced from the SIPRI Yearbook 2013.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: JT Coyoté September 23, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
The Soviet/Russian "GRID" was the overt first wave of the attack on humanity. the Russians were subjected to the control grid in a direct way long before we were... The people of Russia were the enemies of the "STATE" (the corporate state) 20 years before we were covertly made chattel property during the depression... this is when we became the enemy as well...in 1933... two different methods to reach the same goal.

You should all be listening to the interview with Deborah Tavares right now... the documentation for this "silent war" is HUGE. It has run over into overtime... WOW! The elite are clearly whacked out insane-a-toids!

The final division in all of this, is the murderous power elite vs We the People... all of the high tech experimentation that we are paying for, is aimed right back at us like a loaded gun!

JTCoyoté

"The most important element of a free society,
where individual rights are held in the highest esteem,
is the rejection of the initiation of violence."

~Ron Paul
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver September 23, 2013, 05:55:02 PM

The interview with Deborah Tavares

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp8EHsRxNyU

Her Website

http://stopthecrime.net/

Her Flyer

http://stopthecrime.net/full%20page%20flyer.pdf
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie September 23, 2013, 08:31:12 PM
^ ^ ^ ^

Sophie, I am not so sure about FREE ENERGY
and the SCALAR weaponry scare. I know
Bearden is the guru of "free energy" ... and
I am very hopeful that something will come
of it ... but at this point ~~> :(

 ... but I thought Bearden (who has admitted he bought his 'doctorate'
from a degree mill) and the SCALAR WARS alternate histories had been
thoroughly debunked. Anyway, Russia and Putin are not nearly the
War Hawks the US and Obama are ... not even close!



Hi Jackson,

Thanks for the info, didn't realize that "Bearden admitted he bought his doctorate from a degree mill".   Of course, that certainly wouldn't bar any 'expert' from talking about anything nowdays....it certainly didn't prevent someone from becoming the President of this country, did it?  :D :D Do you have a link to that, and also to the Scalar Weapon debunking?

The KAL shoot down holds poignancy for me - I was one of the first Americans granted a visa and able to visit the country after that happened.   ;)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 23, 2013, 11:56:55 PM
Hi Jackson,

Thanks for the info, didn't realize that "Bearden admitted he bought his doctorate from a degree mill".   Of course, that certainly wouldn't bar any 'expert' from talking about anything nowdays....it certainly didn't prevent someone from becoming the President of this country, did it?  :D :D Do you have a link to that, and also to the Scalar Weapon debunking?

The KAL shoot down holds poignancy for me - I was one of the first Americans granted a visa and able to visit the country after that happened.   ;)

Hey ... that was my last post last night and I was
just going by memory and didn't look up anything.
Here is a 'letter' in which Bearden admits his 'doctorate'
is for 'life experience and for life accomplishment'
which are diploma mill buzzwords~~~> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College_and_University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College_and_University)

ALSO ~~~> http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Beware/Bearden_Bogus_PhD/#Investigative%20Report (http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Beware/Bearden_Bogus_PhD/#Investigative%20Report)

FROM BEARDEN'S SITE:
http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/011403.htm (http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/011403.htm)

As for 'scalar wave theory' ... just google BEARDEN SCALAR THEORY DEBUNKED
or something like that. Here is one pretty good discussion:

ARTICLE ~~~> http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave)

... and BTW, for folks who may
be new to this stuff ~~>
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/scalarweapons2.html (http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/scalarweapons2.html)


All this doesn't mean that I disbelieve HAARP manipulation of weather and
the ionosphere for EM weaponry ... it's just that Bearden goes over-the-top
into too much woo-woo for me, ala Steohen Greer, who he supports/admires.
The Russian connection just doesn't ring true, either ... have you seen any
convincing evidence?

I mean ... what is this? (From above link)

14. MIND READING, MASS HYPNOTISM AND SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY

According to Bearden: "in the late 1960's Lisitsyn reported that the Soviets had broken the ‘genetic code’ of the human brain. It had 44 digits or less, and the brain employed 22 frequency bands across nearly the whole EM spectrum. But, only 11 of the frequency bands were independent. This work implies that, if 11 or more correct frequency channels can be ‘phase-locked’ into the human brain, then it should be possible to drastically influence the thoughts, vision, physical functioning, emotions, and conscious state of the individual, even from a great distance. Up to 16 of the giant Soviet woodpecker carriers have been observed to carry a common, phase-locked 10-Hz modulation, and this has been demonstrated by Beck, Rauscher, Bise, and others to be able to physically entrain or "phase-lock" the human brain, if stronger than the Schumann resonance of the Earth's magnetic field. A human brain entrained by a common, phase-locked 10-Hz modulation on 16 carrier frequencies would effectively have 16 frequency channels phase-locked into it. The potential for using the Woodpecker transmitters to phase-lock an appreciable percentage of human brains in a targeted area, and then induce effects in the populace similar to and even more drastic than-the effects induced in U.S. Embassy personnel in Moscow, should be strongly pointed out. Coupled with the Kaznacheyev work on EM transmission of cellular death and disease, using the Woodpecker signals to induce death and disease in the targeted populace may also be a distinct possibility. Modification of DNA/RNA-and viruses themselves-is also a possibility."
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Outer Haven September 24, 2013, 12:15:54 AM
Even if Putin is on our side, I don't think Russia (or any other country) can stand up to the US government/military. Ultimately, this is elite vs. the people...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 24, 2013, 09:12:22 AM


... Mr. Maddow slams Putin, his stand
against the homo-tsunami and his
growing strength amongst right-thinking
folks worldwide:


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HERE:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maddow-deflates-gop-man-crush-on-putin-hes-just-not-that-into-you/ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maddow-deflates-gop-man-crush-on-putin-hes-just-not-that-into-you/)

 ... and HERE:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rachel-maddow/53005952#53005952 (http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rachel-maddow/53005952#53005952)

Rachel Maddow   |  September 13, 2013

US conservatives smitten with virile Putin


Rachel Maddow reviews the unabashed gushing American conservatives are doing over Russian President Vladimir Putin, who so reinforces their disdain for President Obama that they're apparently willing to overlook the fact that he's the president of Russia.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PS:  I don't like this woman, even on a good day ... here
she misses the point entirely, simply reverting to her one
spiel, framing everything into her warped, one-sex-fits-all
worldview ... trying to get a laugh by implying Putin's
admirers are just a bunch of closet homosexuals ...
"zip it up" she says. Is this the best MSNBC,
MicroSoftNationalBroadcastingCorporation's got?
Hey, Maddow ... YOU ZIP IT UP, HONEY ... and
crawl back under the rock from whence you came....




: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 24, 2013, 09:42:09 AM
Even if Putin is on our side, I don't think Russia (or any other country) can stand up to the US government/military. Ultimately, this is elite vs. the people...
  Outer Haven Quote:Ultimately, this is elite vs. the people...
            
  hammer hits the nail....
I honestly don't get in a huff over Russia, they have basically recovered from their invasion of Afghanistan and seem to be concentrating on getting their nation in order, financially, industry, core values. Not attempting to exempt the fact they are not military lightweights.
    The elites, (with our money& debt) are funding the merc (fanatic go alongs) wars and providing weapons. Once Syria has extracted the sirin gas to the UN exactly what happens, any hints, will the  Johny's rebs overcome Syrian Gov forces cross more borders...
   All of this equals perpetual war, we have had over a decade of invasions, genocide and moral degradation, our debt is basically unpayable, Obycare is on the table, illegals were given the red carpet, domestic FF's are monthly-2ND. Amendment, attack, the DHS, Patriot act etc have imploded, FEMA , the constitution has been disregarded due to war powers act and a nutless congress bowing to Oby and his lunatic parasitic buddy's the DEA is an offshoot of the  Holders DOJ, go figure.
  It all come back here USA.....If the wars continue, it's the end game. I believe  citizens should be concentrating on the USA , home turf, not Putin...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue September 24, 2013, 01:22:12 PM
we should have a Putin photo op of the week ....
A must read:


(http://talesfromthelou.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/2c0fc-putin.jpg)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Op-Ed Contributor

A Plea for Caution From Russia

What Putin Has to Say to Americans About Syria


By VLADIMIR V. PUTIN

Published: September 11, 2013



MOSCOW — RECENT events surrounding Syria have prompted me to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders. It is important to do so at a time of insufficient communication between our societies.

Relations between us have passed through different stages. We stood against each other during the cold war. But we were also allies once, and defeated the Nazis together. The universal international organization — the United Nations — was then established to prevent such devastation from ever happening again.

The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter. The profound wisdom of this has underpinned the stability of international relations for decades.

No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization.

The potential strike by the United States against Syria, despite strong opposition from many countries and major political and religious leaders, including the pope, will result in more innocent victims and escalation, potentially spreading the conflict far beyond Syria’s borders. A strike would increase violence and unleash a new wave of terrorism. It could undermine multilateral efforts to resolve the Iranian nuclear problem and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and further destabilize the Middle East and North Africa. It could throw the entire system of international law and order out of balance.

Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multireligious country. There are few champions of democracy in Syria. But there are more than enough Qaeda fighters and extremists of all stripes battling the government. The United States State Department has designated Al Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, fighting with the opposition, as terrorist organizations. This internal conflict, fueled by foreign weapons supplied to the opposition, is one of the bloodiest in the world.

Mercenaries from Arab countries fighting there, and hundreds of militants from Western countries and even Russia, are an issue of our deep concern. Might they not return to our countries with experience acquired in Syria? After all, after fighting in Libya, extremists moved on to Mali. This threatens us all.

From the outset, Russia has advocated peaceful dialogue enabling Syrians to develop a compromise plan for their own future. We are not protecting the Syrian government, but international law. We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos. The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression.

No one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian Army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons, who would be siding with the fundamentalists. Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored.

It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”

But force has proved ineffective and pointless. Afghanistan is reeling, and no one can say what will happen after international forces withdraw. Libya is divided into tribes and clans. In Iraq the civil war continues, with dozens killed each day. In the United States, many draw an analogy between Iraq and Syria, and ask why their government would want to repeat recent mistakes.

No matter how targeted the strikes or how sophisticated the weapons, civilian casualties are inevitable, including the elderly and children, whom the strikes are meant to protect.

The world reacts by asking: if you cannot count on international law, then you must find other ways to ensure your security. Thus a growing number of countries seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction. This is logical: if you have the bomb, no one will touch you. We are left with talk of the need to strengthen nonproliferation, when in reality this is being eroded.

We must stop using the language of force and return to the path of civilized diplomatic and political settlement.

A new opportunity to avoid military action has emerged in the past few days. The United States, Russia and all members of the international community must take advantage of the Syrian government’s willingness to place its chemical arsenal under international control for subsequent destruction. Judging by the statements of President Obama, the United States sees this as an alternative to military action.

I welcome the president’s interest in continuing the dialogue with Russia on Syria. We must work together to keep this hope alive, as we agreed to at the Group of 8 meeting in Lough Erne in Northern Ireland in June, and steer the discussion back toward negotiations.

If we can avoid force against Syria, this will improve the atmosphere in international affairs and strengthen mutual trust. It will be our shared success and open the door to cooperation on other critical issues.

My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.

Vladimir V. Putin is the president of Russia.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579638/Orthodox-Church-unholy-alliance-with-Putin.html
Orthodox Church unholy alliance with Putin
23 Feb 2008

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...
The president, a proud adherent, has allowed the Orthodox Church to regain much of its Tsarist-era lustre and has won the enthusiastic support of religious leaders in return.
...
Although he has never confirmed it, the patriarch, like the president, is a former KGB agent codenamed Drozdov, according to Soviet archives opened to experts in the 1990s.

Many in the Orthodox hierarchy are also accused of working as KGB informers, a fact that critics say the Church has never fully acknowledged.

"Essentially, the Orthodox Church is one of the only Soviet institutions that has never been reformed," said one priest, who declined to be identified for fear that he could be defrocked. That fate already befell another colleague, Gleb Yakunin, in the 1990s when he called on Church leaders with KGB links to repent.


Drozdov

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-05-08/news/1992129121_1_kgb-russian-orthodox-church-drozdov



Russian Patriarch Alexei reportedly spied for KGB
May 08, 1992|By Knight-Ridder News Service

MOSCOW -- To the outside world he has been known as Alexei II, the patriarch of Moscow and all Russia, head of the Russian Orthodox Church and its tens of millions of believers.

But to the KGB, he was "Drozdov," the code name the Soviet secret police gave to an agent who served them well for more than a quarter-century, according to church dissidents and some lawmakers.

...

According to reports in the Russian press, virtually all the current members of the church's ruling synod worked closely with the KGB, informing on fellow members of the priesthood, painting a rosy picture of Soviet religious life on trips abroad and doing the secret police's bidding in numerous other ways.

"The Moscow patriarchy was set up by the KGB and . . . this structure is our enemy," says the Rev. Georgi Edelstein, who for years has attacked the church hierarchy for its KGB ties. "Each of these bishops went so far in the system because he was one of the worst, because he could betray you and me and his fellow bishops any day."

Patriarch Alexei, who was born Alexei Ridiger in Estonia in 1923, entered the priesthood in 1950 while Stalin ruled the Soviet Union. He rose to the rank of metropolitan, the second-highest title in the church, and in the 1960s became business manager of the Russian Orthodox Church.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 24, 2013, 04:54:51 PM
  I have to agree with Putin, an invasion or  strike on Syria will be a mistake. Do you?
  Arming Taliban, Mercs, Jihadists, funding and intell, well go figure!
 
 Corporate religions, yes this one too,( Russian Orthodox church ) ,are now and allways have been a target for the elites.

  Does the HISTORY OF THE "Inquisition -ring bells", well.. it DOES for me.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue September 26, 2013, 11:35:01 AM
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?tag=vladimir-putin
Pravda (Hearts) Tea Party: American Conservatism Embraced By Russian Propaganda Press
 Posted by: Mark @ 1:47 pm

(http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/GOP/putin-palin.jpg)

If this doesn’t cause Tea Party heads to explode, I don’t know what will.

[Actually, I do know what will: Anything President Obama says; or showing that the health care law is working; or suggesting that billionaires be tapped for more taxes instead of poor people; or saying anything bad about Sarah Palin. Actually, lots of things make Tea Party heads explode]

Today the Russian Communist Party’s internal organ, Pravda, published an article extolling the virtues of American conservatism and its natural harmony with the politburo mouthpiece. The article by Xavier Lerma was titled “Why Conservative Americans Admire Putin.” This is a rather astute observation considering how the GOP has so lovingly embraced the Russian president during the Syrian crisis. They have hailed him as a true leader and even proposed that Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be given to Putin instead.
...

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/17-09-2013/125682-conservative_americans_putin-0/
Why Conservative Americans Admire Putin
17.09.2013
By Xavier Lerma

America's president has torn his land into a thousand pieces. The propaganda media machine covers Obama's trail of blood and shows the president in a good way without a word of dissent. During his time in office there has been a boiling pot in America that began with the Tea Party in 2010 that took back the House of Representatives. The original Tea Party of 1773 protested the British government's high taxes on the American colonies. The modern Tea Party's success was short lived by Obama's illegal interference. In addition, these American Christian conservatives feel their voice ignored by the 2 major political powers in America: the Democrats and the Republicans. They feel betrayed and helpless in a land turned upside down. Slowly they began to notice President Vladimir Putin's actions and deemed him worthy of admiration and respect by all conservatives.

When Obama won again in 2012 there were claims of fraud and stolen elections. All was done electronically at the voting booth. For the first time paper ballots were not used ensuring Obama's victory. People claimed they clicked one name but Obama's name would only show. Where was the Tea Party? It had so much power in 2010. Even other conservative groups were nowhere to be found. Only some radio and internet outlets spoke of the fraud and stolen elections. Obama's logic prevailed.

This year it was proven that Obama's regime openly went after Tea Party leaders and other members with the IRS whose power it is to impose higher taxes and force audits upon them. Now things began to be clear as to why the conservative movement seemed powerless. An American housewife wrote me, "In the land of the "free" and the "brave," we are not permitted to voice our opinion publicly (we are simply the invisible, pathetic tax-payers or tributaries of the present regime)."
...

After the Great Patriotic War, Americans looked at Russians as atheists and communists. Russians were viewed as intelligent but liars and devils not to be trusted. When Solzhenitsyn came to America he was looked upon as a hero from the Soviet Union by the American press. The US media later portrayed him in a negative way calling him naïve and ignorant of American society even though Solzhenitsyn was only pointing out the truth known by many conservative Americans. His 1978 speech in this video in America at the Harvard University is not only true about America but prophetic as well. Solzhenitsyn knew communism was infecting society and saw its effect. He also saw "Destructive and irresponsible freedom" in America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuVG8SnxxCM&feature=youtu.be
    
Solzhenitsyn says in the USA, "Society appears to have little defense against the abyss of human decadence, such as, for example, misuse of liberty for moral violence against young people, motion pictures full of pornography, crime and horror. It is considered to be part of freedom and theoretically counter-balanced by the young people's right not to look or not to accept. Life organized legalistically has thus shown its inability to defend itself against the corrosion of evil." The US media made sure his words were ignored by many and society has become much worse in the last 30 years in America.

At another time he warns not only Americans but Russians as well, "We should teach future generations so they can avoid the mistakes of those who turn away from God. Otherwise, they will suffer the same fate as those who were murdered." Many conservative Americans understood Solzhenitsyn as they knew America was changing for the worse at that time. Yet, these American minds were always persuaded to see Russians as their enemy.
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: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid September 26, 2013, 01:12:50 PM
If this doesn’t cause Tea Party heads to explode, I don’t know what will.

[Actually, I do know what will: Anything President Obama says; or showing that the health care law is working; or suggesting that billionaires be tapped for more taxes instead of poor people; or saying anything bad about Sarah Palin. Actually, lots of things make Tea Party heads explode]

The co-opted Tea Party has managed to slide further to the right than Adolf Hitler.. Quiet an achievement.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 26, 2013, 06:09:06 PM

 ...  ;D  new poll~~> we Americans
give Putin higher marks than Soetoro
on Syrian "crisis" ... (duh!)


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AMERICANS DOUBT OBAMA'S
EFFECTIVENESS ON SYRIA


by Kathy Frankovic

READ ARTICLE HERE~~~>http://today.yougov.com/news/2013/09/25/americans-doubt-obamas-effectiveness-syria/ (http://today.yougov.com/news/2013/09/25/americans-doubt-obamas-effectiveness-syria/)

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Many Americans think that Vladimir Putin was the most effective leader during the Syrian chemical weapons crisis, while approval for how Obama handled the crisis is still low.

Although Syria appears to have met the first deadline in its agreement with the United States and Russia, beginning the process of turning over its chemical weapons, few Americans trust it will fulfill its promises.  That leaves President Obama in a difficult position: he continues to have little support for action against Syria, and Americans continue to disapprove of how he is handling this crisis.  Worse for him, perhaps, the latest Economist/YouGov Poll finds twice as many Americans giving Russian President Vladimir Putin the nod over President Obama as the most effective leader in this crisis.

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: Larry McDonald, KAL007, and Scalar Weaponry
: One Revelator September 27, 2013, 11:52:10 AM
Wow, tiptoeing into this chest-beating den of Putin applause is scary.

I have YET to see much in this forum about RUSSIAN use of scalar weaponry.  Many threads on HAARP, but very little on how Russia has 'tested' and used their superior knowledge in this department.  They have been working on this technology for way longer than the U.S.  If you follow any of Lt Col Bearden's work:
 http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm

He (and others) firmly believe that scalar was what Kruschev was talking about WAY back in the 60's when he claimed that the Soviet Union had just developed the most  advanced weapon known to man.  Bearden and others claim that the Russians used scalar to down the Challenger...amongst other things.  And what about the shooting down of KAL 007 in 1983...the plane that U.S. Representative Larry McDonald was flying on.  Who was he? 

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Larry_McDonald.jpg/220px-Larry_McDonald.jpg)
Guy looks kinda like Hannity!

Plenty of reason to have him taken out by the commies in Congress
During his time in Congress, McDonald introduced over 150 bills, including legislation to;

·   Repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968.
·   Remove the limitation upon the amount of outside income which a Social Security recipient may earn.
·   Award honorary U.S. Citizenship to Russian dissident Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
·   Invite Russian dissident Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn to address a joint meeting of Congress.
·   Prohibit Federal funds from being used to finance the purchase of American agricultural commodities by any Communist country.
·   Create a select committee in the House of Representatives to conduct an investigation of human rights abouses in Southeast Asia by Communist forces.
·   Repeal the FCC regulations against editorializing and support of political candidates by noncommercial educational broadcasting stations.
·   Create a House Committee on Internal Security.
·   Impeach UN Ambassador Andrew Young.
·   Limit eligibility for appointment and admission to any United States service academy to men.
·   Direct the Comptroller General of the United States to audit the gold held by the United States annually.
·   Increase the national speed limit to 65 mph.
·   Abolish the Federal Election Commission.
·   Get the U.S. out of the United Nations.
·   Place statues of Booker T. Washington and George Washington Carver in the Capitol.

McDonald also introduced numerous bills to stop the making loans, and selling of arms to communist or communist friendly regimes.

At the time of his death, McDonald was considering a run for President of the United States.
--wiki


@White Rose Sophie – Just curious where you were going with this. Are you saying that KAL007 had something to do with scalar weaponry? I remember Reagan playing the Hokkaido tape on national television of the Russian pilot pulling the trigger. The pilot expressed reluctance before finally complying with the shoot down order.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly October 01, 2013, 10:55:37 PM

“Though fraud in all other actions be odious, yet in matters of war it is laudable and glorious, and he who overcomes his enemies by stratagem is as much to be praised as he who overcomes them by force.”
– Niccolo Machiavelli


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DID PUTIN QUIETLY PLAY THE DEBT CARD OVER SYRIA?

SEPTEMBER 30, 2013    BY THE DOC

What motivated the sudden, overnight change of mind by Obama himself seemingly only hours away from a military strike on al Assad and Syria? It appears to have caught his advisors and the military totally by surprise.

I believe both Russia and China covertly played the Treasury debt card in order to protect their client states, Syria and Iran, from the impending US invasion.

It is likely that financial intermediaries or lower level central banking contacts dropped the hint to their American counterparts that China and Russia were likely to begin liquidating Treasury obligations should Washington go ahead with it’s planned military adventure against Syria.

Putin wins again. He gets the credit for stopping the US; Russia, as usual, never fires a shot and Washington retreats.

Submitted by Ron Holland, The Daily Bell:

“They are living beyond their means and shifting a part of the weight of their problems to the world economy. They are living like parasites off the global economy and their monopoly of the dollar. If [in America] there is a systemic malfunction, this will affect everyone. Countries like Russia and China hold a significant part of their reserves in American securities. There should be other reserve currencies.” – Vladimir Putin in 2011

While I hate to give such praise to a foreign leader, Putin has undoubtedly run rings around the moribund and bureaucratic incompetence of the Laurel and Hardy-style Obama and Kerry team on Syria. Putin diplomatically has the swiftness and stealth of the South’s Stonewall Jackson and Germany’s Erwin Rommel, probably the two greatest military commanders in world history.

What Really Happened on the Night of Friday, August 30th?

“At one point last week in the charade known as ‘the Syria peace negotiations’, John Kerry, the US Secretary of State, announced solemnly, ‘This is not a game.’ Well, he was wrong there. This certainly is a game: the trouble is that Barack Obama is trying to pretend that it’s chess, while Vladimir Putin plays hard-faced poker.” – Janet Daley

 ......

I believe both Russia and China covertly played the Treasury debt card in order to protect their client states, Syria and Iran, from the impending US invasion. An attack would undoubtedly have escalated with troops on the ground, opening the way for a land assault against Iran, the ultimate real target. After all, the gas pipeline for Washington’s Sunni client states that even offering to pay for the military action is far less important than taking Iran down.

“At this point, China owns approximately 1.275 trillion dollars of our debt, and Russia owns approximately 138 billion dollars of our debt.”

.....

I would suggest that Putin’s apparent last minute Chemical Weapons “deal” was just a face-saving gift for the Obama Administration in order to provide cover and a reasonable excuse for the sudden change of orders to halt the Syria attack. I’ll also bet that this deal had been worked out long before it was offered to Obama.

READ ARTICLE HERE~~~> http://www.silverdoctors.com/did-putin-quietly-play-the-debt-card-over-syria/ (http://www.silverdoctors.com/did-putin-quietly-play-the-debt-card-over-syria/)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly October 03, 2013, 06:41:41 PM


... I wouldn't be surprised
if he got the Peace Prize.


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Photo by: Maxim Shemetov
Russian President Vladimir Putin smiles during his meeting with
Crown Prince Sheik Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan of the United
Arab Emirates at the Novo-Ogaryovo state residence outside Moscow
on Sept. 12, 2013.
(Associated Press)


Russia’s Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

Russian President Vladimir Putin was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by an advocacy group that credits him with bringing about a peaceful resolution to the Syrian-U.S. dispute over chemical weapons.

The Russian advocacy group International Academy of Spiritual Unity and Cooperation of Peoples of the World nominated Mr. Putin, characterizing his forged agreement with Syrian President Bashar Assad — to turn over admitted chemical weapons cache to international authorities — a world-class and prize-worthy piece of diplomacy, United Press International reported.

The group also took a dig at the United States.

While announcing the nomination during a press conference in Moscow, group officials said Mr. Putin deserved the Peace Prize much more than President Obama, who won the recognition in 2009.

“Barack Obama is the man who has initiated and approved the United States’ aggressive actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now he is preparing for an invasion into Syria. He bears this title nevertheless,” said Iosif Kobzon, a member of the State Duma, UPI reported.

READ ARTICLE  ~~~> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/2/russias-vladimir-putin-nominated-nobel-peace-prize/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/2/russias-vladimir-putin-nominated-nobel-peace-prize/)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc October 03, 2013, 06:45:21 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Well, he deserves the peace prize. 

  We would be in WW3 if it not for him.

  OF COURSE THE MIDDLE EAST WILL ALWAYS BE A PROBLEM. 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Honor18 October 04, 2013, 09:53:10 AM
He certainly deserves one more than Barry does !
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue October 08, 2013, 10:44:03 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24448147
8 October 2013 Last updated at 10:17 ET
Putin demands Dutch arrest apology as ties worsen

Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded an apology after police in the Netherlands briefly detained a Russian diplomat for alleged domestic abuse.

Condemning the incident as a breach of protocol, he said those who arrested Dmitri Borodin at his home on Saturday night should be punished.

The Dutch authorities are investigating reports Mr Borodin was assaulted.

Ties between the countries have been strained by the detention of Greenpeace activists in Russia last month.

The Netherlands launched legal action last week to free the activists, who were charged with piracy after a protest on an Arctic oil rig owned by state-controlled firm Gazprom.

The 30 people, who include two Dutch citizens, were arrested aboard the Dutch-flagged Greenpeace ship Arctic Sunrise.

Mr Borodin, a minister counsellor at the Russian embassy, told Russian media earlier that the men who arrested him had said they were responding to an alert raised by neighbours that children were being maltreated in the flat.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 October 08, 2013, 11:38:02 AM
 Who does Putin think he is now--OH ya arrest anyone Putin says so?--I say F*ck Putin--if other Americans like him; that's their problem--as for me I do Not Trust a commie!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver October 08, 2013, 11:40:36 AM
"Netherlands briefly detained a Russian diplomat for alleged domestic abuse."

Friend of mine in the Nederlands says the feminism is really out of control there. Any domestic violence charges are blown way out of proportion . Dutch Gov commits horrible crimes and then hides behind the skirts of the alleged victim.

Russia 'more than disappointed' with Dutch over diplomat's beating as deadline for explanation passes

http://rt.com/news/putin-punishment-attack-diplomat-888/
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid October 08, 2013, 12:40:04 PM
Who does Putin think he is now--OH ya arrest anyone Putin says so?--I say F*ck Putin--if other Americans like him; that's their problem--as for me I do Not Trust a commie!

Wot on earth are you rambling on about ?

Have you not realized that Russia won the cold war - as they got freedoms, low taxes, land, oil, gas, gold in the bank, fair elections and a space program.

Meanwhile in America you got the CIA (Which is just American miss-spelling of KGB) doing secret arrests, spying on everybody, and state ownership of industry through banking, crippling taxes and rigged elections.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Anon27 October 08, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
Who does Putin think he is now--OH ya arrest anyone Putin says so?--I say F*ck Putin--if other Americans like him; that's their problem--as for me I do Not Trust a commie!

Irrelevant statements.

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"], short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as an informal fallacy, more precisely an irrelevance.

Was the detainment of the Russian Official a breach of diplomatic protocol?

Do you expect any leader to be pleased, publically, if one of their diplomats is detained?

These are examples of relevant questions.

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc October 08, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Wot on earth are you rambling on about ?

Have you not realized that Russia won the cold war - as they got freedoms, low taxes, land, oil, gas, gold in the bank, fair elections and a space program.

Meanwhile in America you got the CIA (Which is just American miss-spelling of KGB) doing secret arrests, spying on everybody, and state ownership of industry through banking, crippling taxes and rigged elections.




  Well said EvadingGrid.  Their prison became our prison.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 October 08, 2013, 03:46:50 PM
Wot on earth are you rambling on about ?

Have you not realized that Russia won the cold war - as they got freedoms, low taxes, land, oil, gas, gold in the bank, fair elections and a space program.

Meanwhile in America you got the CIA (Which is just American miss-spelling of KGB) doing secret arrests, spying on everybody, and state ownership of industry through banking, crippling taxes and rigged elections.



When Americans look to Putin and Russia for our Freedom--We lose All Our Hard Fought dignity--and if you trust the Commies, that is your choice--NOT ME! I'll Look To the Founding Fathers for the Truth of my Freedoms: Even though our Nation is Falling apart: there is NO WAY I Will Ever Trust COMMIES. Hey they said they would take over the USA without a fight---and by the comments I can see this is what is happening. so learn how to speak Russian!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 October 08, 2013, 07:44:52 PM
When Americans look to Putin and Russia for our Freedom--We lose All Our Hard Fought dignity--and if you trust the Commies, that is your choice--NOT ME! I'll Look To the Founding Fathers for the Truth of my Freedoms: Even though our Nation is Falling apart: there is NO WAY I Will Ever Trust COMMIES. Hey they said they would take over the USA without a fight---and by the comments I can see this is what is happening. so learn how to speak Russian!
No Reply--so all can learn Russian now--and have a GREAT time living in the airport with Snowden!

 I can not believe that Americans are trusting the PUT-ON KGB MAN--well this is a nail in the coffin of our Republic--That is my opinion and I stand by it!
 
 Oh! I forgot that Put-you-On is a FAKE CHRISTIAN--but it seems that many in the USA love this COMMIE--as I said: "I don't Trust him."--Oh! do Americans like him because he runs around half naked--he looks like a teenage beach bum!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TonkaTim October 08, 2013, 08:39:26 PM
iamc2, Got a question for you:

If Putin is a commie... why are the communist always the ones protesting against him & his policies?
To be totally frank I'm far more concerned about the communistic(international socialism) policies that have become pervasive in our country.
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(http://en.ria.ru/images/17260/72/172607296.jpg)
(http://images.politico.com/global/2011/12/111210_moscow_protest_ap_328.jpg)
(http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20111205&t=2&i=542993946&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=BTRE7B41H8F00)
(http://wodumedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Russian-Communists-Party-supporters-hold-flags-with-the-color-and-emblem-of-the-Communist-Party-gather-together-to-protest-against-official-results-of-the-parliaments-elections-in-Moscow-Russia-on-December-5-2011-with-a-Chris-960x628.jpg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver October 08, 2013, 08:40:39 PM
No Reply--so all can learn Russian now--and have a GREAT time living in the airport with Snowden!

 I can not believe that Americans are trusting the PUT-ON KGB MAN--well this is a nail in the coffin of our Republic--That is my opinion and I stand by it!
 
 Oh! I forgot that Put-you-On is a FAKE CHRISTIAN--but it seems that many in the USA love this COMMIE--as I said: "I don't Trust him."--Oh! do Americans like him because he runs around half naked--he looks like a teenage beach bum!

Who is being an extremist now? Of course Putin is a political animal! WTF ? How do people become Heads of State ? Where did you think you were posting at iamc2? Unicornplanet? There are not many with clean hands in the real world. His message resonates with a lot of folks.

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: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc October 08, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm

  Excerpt from the article...45 declared goals written back in 1963

  The Commies are in control here.  The Commies here have outdone the Commies in Russia.  Something we have known for many years here at Prison Planet Forum.

  


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals


1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
 
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
 
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
 
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
 
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
 
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
 
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
 
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
 
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
 
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
 
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
 
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
 
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
 
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
 
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
 
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
 
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
 
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
 
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
 
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
 
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
 
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
 
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
 
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
 
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
 
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
 
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
 
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
 
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
 
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
 
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
 
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
 
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
 
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
 
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
 
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
 
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
 
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
 
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
 
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
 
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
 
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
 
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
 
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
 
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.



: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver October 08, 2013, 09:15:21 PM
(http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5253cd3b69bedd982c22cfb0-1200-456/kerry-putin-apec.png)

http://www.businessinsider.com/photo-of-john-kerry-far-off-in-the-background-at-apec-meeting-2013-10

Dive Bomber John Kerry   

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/110804_stolen_election.shtml

election of 2004: welcome back to hell
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Monkeypox October 08, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
The main difference between Putin and Obama?

Putin loves his country and his people.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc October 08, 2013, 10:46:57 PM
The main difference between Putin and Obama?

Putin loves his country and his people.

  Very true
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 October 09, 2013, 03:41:04 AM
Who is being an extremist now? Of course Putin is a political animal! WTF ? How do people become Heads of State ? Where did you think you were posting at iamc2? Unicornplanet? There are not many with clean hands in the real world. His message resonates with a lot of folks.

(http://chaospet.com/comics/2007-08-28-32.png) (https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRB9lBK9nwUPTONG-LDCV6ep8k5gldGcsRJ_GnAMIx2DFNas_yv)(http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/BushPutin.jpg)
If history tells a tail: Then The USA created the GAY UNICORN RUSSIAN EXTREMISTS: NOT I...AND, WHO PUMPED MONEY INTO THE RED COMMIES AFTER WWII? OH! THE USA DID! AS for your little comics: for one I am NOT GAY/ nor an Extremist/ nor do I live on Planet Unicorn--if you are going to insult me : can you do it with words and not silly cartoons---I thought you we more intelligent than that.

 So when Russian Troops/under orders from the USA/ show up here/maybe all the PUT=ON LOVERS will find a UNICORN HORN STUCK IN THIER ARSE!

 The USA has been under COMMIE Control since the days of FDR! Or go farther back to 1913/ the Federal Reserve: The COMMIE COMPANY!

 [side note: as for the GAY Remark: I am a Mans man and always have been: I was raise to be strong: Today we have a bunch of Metrosexual Boys running around in adult bodies and they are destroying our Nation. Enough said--end of story.]
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver October 09, 2013, 04:36:42 AM
I hear you iamc2 about the Russians.
Bill Clinton didn't fix the country So we elected Bush, he was worse.
So we elected Obama, he promised hope and change.
Obama is a huge disappointment and DC is no help.
Putin appears to offer a counter to the mess in DC.

Problem - Reaction cycle

Pain avoidance and we keep running right into more pain.

Even Ron Paul is a political animal .

Ron Paul never publicly said two obvious things - 9/11 truth and the gold is gone.

My point is we are not going to find clean leaders anywhere except in a utopia that doesn't exist ( Unicorn Planet )

As far as the gay comment on the cartoon it it is just that. a cartoon.

Russians have common history with the US.

The Czars were our allies in quite a few wars and economic ventures.

These friendly post WWII relations we have with Britain and Israel is a new thing.

Russia in the 1900s was an ally of the US and had interest free banking .

Principles and policies,  not personalities should be our focus.

Currently the Russians have low debt and are not empire building.

The Chinese on the other hand have a debt problem because they own US treasuries and have been empire building.









: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 October 09, 2013, 06:26:55 AM
I hear you iamc2 about the Russians.
Bill Clinton didn't fix the country So we elected Bush, he was worse.
So we elected Obama, he promised hope and change.
Obama is a huge disappointment and DC is no help.
Putin appears to offer a counter to the mess in DC.

Problem - Reaction cycle

Pain avoidance and we keep running right into more pain.

Even Ron Paul is a political animal .

Ron Paul never publicly said two obvious things - 9/11 truth and the gold is gone.

My point is we are not going to find clean leaders anywhere except in a utopia that doesn't exist ( Unicorn Planet )

As far as the gay comment on the cartoon it it is just that. a cartoon.

Russians have common history with the US.

The Czars were our allies in quite a few wars and economic ventures.

These friendly post WWII relations we have with Britain and Israel is a new thing.

Russia in the 1900s was an ally of the US and had interest free banking .

Principles and policies,  not personalities should be our focus.

Currently the Russians have low debt and are not empire building.

The Chinese on the other hand have a debt problem because they own US treasuries and have been empire building.










You make valid points jerryweaver and I know that my points are valid, also, WE ARE AMERICANS FIRST---I understand that Russia helped us in the Revolutionary War---I study History and am very well read---this situation is NO JOKE---THIS NATION IS IN BIG TROUBLE--and Russia with the PUTON Man is NOT OUR SAVIOR---Thanks for your point of view---I stand by my statement: "I DO NOT TRUST COMMIES OR NAZIS'."

As I SAID THIS NATION HAS BEEN UNDER COMMIE/NAZI CONTROL FOR MY LIFETIME AND YOURS!

 When Russia Tells China to fall Off Earth--Then I MIGHT believe them--Until they do this--they can go to HELL!

 Oh! and remember that China and Russia have been running WAR GAMES/for a First Strike against the USA since 1995--check out 'Janes International'
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones October 09, 2013, 07:32:04 PM
 Who do ya trust, remember that show, will the real leader please stand up.
 
 I don't trust any of them at this point in my life. Some sad shiite isn't it!..Putin doesn't have to do anything to bring down the USA,             Oby and the elite crew & suklings are doing it by the numbers!.
The USSR had their day in the sandbox (Afghanistan) they were broken, our regimes have been there for a decade and folks wonder why the muck we are in debt.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver October 14, 2013, 12:10:37 AM
CBS is saying this.

Putin Story Scripted – Russia Spent $6 Million With American PR Firm

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57602786/selling-the-message-how-pr-firm-helped-place-controversial-putin-op-ed/

http://petersantilli.com/

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly October 23, 2013, 09:50:33 AM


... some of this article from WAKING TIMES is
a little 'woo-woo' ... but, in general, I agree ...


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Waking Up to Vladimir Putin’s Uncommon Common Sense

October 21, 2013

First and foremost we should be governed by common sense.
~ Vladimir Putin (Time Magazine, 2007)

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President Vladimir Putin is audaciously attempting to remove the brush covering from atop the common sense rabbit hole, which is not only a truly rare and subversive act in the eyes of the Con, but a potentially great gift to humanity – if only humanity had the sensitivity to appreciate it.

Nonetheless, this will no doubt prove to be a thrilling ride for those willing to take up the challenge. Russians are fortunate to have such a sane leader, and the West would be wise to follow his lead, but what exactly does Mr. Putin mean by Common Sense?

Here’s a quick peek at a couple of dictionary definitions:

1)     Sound judgment not based on specialized knowledge; native good judgment.

2)     The basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things.

The ability to soundly judge is important to understanding what common sense is all about, as is the fact that judgment is not an isolated act made according to individuated, specialized knowledge, but of something that is of a more general nature that is shared, common or native to the species as a whole.

To better understand how common sense operates as a cognitive process, Aristotle provides a clear and useful description:

The reason for having several senses is in fact that it increases the chances that we can distinguish and recognize things correctly.] Each sense is used to identify distinctions, such as sight identifying the difference between black and white, but, says Aristotle, all animals with perception must have “some one thing” which can distinguish black from sweet.]

see section on “Aristotelian Common Sense” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense

This shared or common sense, as opposed to a two-step Stimulus-Response model, appears to operate, according to Aristotle’s description, as a three-step process:

A) Perception

B) Understanding (through comparative analysis)

C) Judgment

Why is something as fundamental and basic to humanity’s existence operating according to a three-step rather than two-step process?

If you look around the world today, everything is presented in opposing, pairs: A-B. Not A-B-C.

As such, critical A-B-C thinking, aka Common Sense is fundamental to the evolution of awareness, consciousness, cooperation and love which seems to occur with great frequency in nature, but not nearly as much in most human societies.

Mr. Putin has tirelessly and with increasing success preached his neo-Gnostic common sense gospel to a Russian population that has in the not-so-distant past become familiar on an unprecedented scale with such intense suffering and pain that an increasingly large portion of them now appear eager to listen to and act upon Putin’s challenge to reclaim their common heritage as intelligent, discerning and consciously evolving individuals in a country of rich heritage and national achievement. This development on a national scale is uncommon.

The economic prosperity that Putin’s leadership has helped generate, impressive as it is, pales in comparison to the raising of individual consciousness en masse in Russia, which is what can happen to a nation when real common sense is applied to governance. That requires rare leadership qualities on a level that few in other countries have experienced in a long while.

When an individual like Vladimir Putin, who both at home and abroad is recognized as having an authentic character, repeatedly demonstrates sane, balanced actions, as he declares the rule of law and common sense governance as the goals of the nation and backs it up with corresponding actions, he naturally enjoys widespread support and trust.

READ THE VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE HERE ~~~~>http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/10/21/waking-vladimir-putins-uncommon-common-sense/ (http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/10/21/waking-vladimir-putins-uncommon-common-sense/)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones October 23, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
 The USSR's invasion of Afghanistan was a lesson learned..$$$$$$$$ and blood.

 The USA ....has invaded in the numbers........common sense - which way did it go.....?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones October 23, 2013, 04:41:23 PM
The USSR's invasion of Afghanistan was a lesson learned..$$$$$$$$ and blood.

 The USA ....has invaded in the numbers........common sense - which way did it go.....?
P.S.
        I had to get back on this......The Soviet war in Afghanistan lasted ONLY nine years from December 1979 to February 1989. Part of the Cold War, it was fought between Soviet-led Afghan forces against multi-national insurgent groups called the Mujahideen. The insurgents received military training in neighboring Pakistan and China,[9] as well as weapons and billions of dollars from the United States, United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, and other countries.[3][4][5][9][24] The decade-long war resulted in millions of Afghans fleeing their country, mostly to Pakistan and Iran. Hundreds of thousands of Afghan civilians were killed in addition to the rebels in the war.
The initial Soviet deployment of the 40th Army in Afghanistan began on December 24, 1979, under Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev.[25] The final troop withdrawal started on May 15, 1988, and ended on February 15, 1989, under the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev. Due to the interminable nature of the war, the conflict in Afghanistan has sometimes been referred to as the "Soviet Union's Vietnam War" or the "Bear Trap".[26][27][28]
           WTF are we doing in Afghanistan, Iraq etc. etc. etc..They're bring this country down...Common sense...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid October 24, 2013, 09:59:34 AM
So on the plus side, its only a question of time before the american empire collapses ?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc October 24, 2013, 10:46:12 AM
So on the plus side, its only a question of time before the american empire collapses ?

  They are delaying Obummercare so that should buy the USA some time BUT WE ALSO HAVE THINGS GOING ON LIKE THE ARTICLE BELOW.  AS LONG AS WE CAN PRINT MONEY AND PEOPLE CAN STILL USE IT, WE'RE IN BUSINESS.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-49-americans-get-gov-t-benefits-82m-households-medicaid

Census: 49% of Americans Get Gov’t Benefits; 82M in Households on Medicaid

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc October 24, 2013, 12:37:24 PM
So on the plus side, its only a question of time before the american empire collapses ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6rUP6aUE7Y

  Great audio/video.  If you are a subscriber to Rense, the audio is over 40 minutes of stuff that is unbelievable.  THE COUNTRY IS DEAD. WE CAN'T SAVE THIS COUNTRY. OBAMA'S CHANGE IS GOING TO TURN INTO OBAMA'S CHAINS FOR THE GUPPIES THAT BELIEVE HIM.  THE REPUBLICAN'TS ARE DEAD.  THE ILLEGALS ARE GOING TO GET THEIR WAY.

Jeff Rense & Texe Marrs - America In A Death Spiral
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue October 29, 2013, 02:47:46 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2478914/Phone-chargers-given-world-leaders-G20-Russian-hosts-able-capture-data-Kremlin.html
Freebie phone chargers and USB sticks given to G20 world leaders by Russian hosts were 'trojan horses to capture data for the Kremlin'
The revelation came after Germany's secret service investigated the devices
It warned that they were 'trojan horses' capable of fishing for information

Warnings have gone out to every government that received them

By Hannah Roberts In Rome
PUBLISHED: 08:53 EST, 29 October 2013 | UPDATED: 12:39 EST, 29 October 2013

It’s claimed that USB drives and phone chargers, given to world leaders at the G20 summit in Russia were 'Trojan horses' capable of sending data back to the Kremlin.


Vladimir Putin welcomes David Cameron for the G20 summit - but were phone charger gifts at the event actually spying devices?

Warnings are said to have gone out to all participating governments, urging them to 'take every possible precaution'.
The sensational allegations were made by the Italian newspapers La Stampa and Corriere della Sera, quoting EU diplomatic sources.
The alarm was apparently first raised by EU President Herman Van Rompuy, who was suspicious of the Russians' gifts.
Within a few days of his return from the conference, President Van Rompuy asked security officials in Brussels to check out the contraptions. They then decided to call in the help of Germans, who confirmed their fears, the sources told Italian media.
The immediate response from technicians in Bonn sent shockwaves throughout diplomatic and security services of half the world.
‘Early analysis showed the USB drive and mobile phone charging cables gifted by the Russians to be Trojan horses- instruments capable of capturing data from computers and mobile phones,’ sources told Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly October 29, 2013, 04:24:20 PM
^ ^ ^ ^ ^

 ;D  … a bizarro-world, kindergarten-level attempt
      at hi-tek espionage from KGB-grad VLAD the IMPALER
      -or- a stupid gotcha ploy from EU high-up muckety-muck
      headman Herman Van Rompuy?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"
The investigations into the alleged spying devices were ongoing, the reports said.
It was not known if every foreign delegation and head of state had been given the covert spying devices.
But Brussels sources said they were baffled by the allegations and expressed total confidence in the security of devices used by EU delegates, including at the St Petersburg summit.

A diplomat said it would be a “schoolboy error” to put a free memory stick into a computer at such a summit because of obvious security concerns.

He said any security-trained diplomat would be alert to such unvetted “freebies”.

“We've not found any evidence of a problem," said the European Commission’s official spokesman.

Dmitry Peskov, Vladimir Putin's spokesman, flatly denied the allegations, describing the Italian stories as a poorly disguised effort to divert attention from reports of US intelligence services spying on Angela Merkel and other European allies.

"These are really funny reports, actually. First of all they have no sources. It is a bold attempt to switch attention from very real problems existing between European capitals and Washington. It is a classic example of that," he told the Telegraph on Tuesday.

"

READ ARTICLE ~~~>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10411473/Russia-spied-on-G20-leaders-with-USB-sticks.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10411473/Russia-spied-on-G20-leaders-with-USB-sticks.html)

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ALSO ~~~>  Putin’s Spokesman Denies Media Reports of Spying on G20 Powers
http://en.ria.ru/world/20131029/184418465/Putins-Spokesman-Denies-Media-Reports-of-Spying-on-G20-Powers.html (http://en.ria.ru/world/20131029/184418465/Putins-Spokesman-Denies-Media-Reports-of-Spying-on-G20-Powers.html)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly October 29, 2013, 05:55:26 PM



… let's set the WAY-BACK MACHINE to
August 23, 1985. As reported in the
New York Times:

 ::)


SOVIET DENIES USING CHEMICAL TO TRACK AMERICANS

Special to the New York Times
Published: August 23, 1985

MOSCOW, Aug. 22— The Soviet Union denied today that it had used a potentially dangerous chemical in tracking the movements of Americans in Moscow and accused Washington of using the allegations to ''poison the atmosphere between our two countries.''

Tass, the official press agency, published a statement that it said had been handed to the State Department. The statement said the charges were ''absurd,'' ''outrageous'' and a ''gross falsehood.'' The State Department asserted Wednesday that the K.G.B., the Soviet internal security agency, had been using a yellowish synthetic powder to track American diplomats and possibly other foreign residents of Moscow.

In statements made in Washington and read to American residents of Moscow, the State Department said that the synthetic chemical, nitrophenylpentadienal, had been identified as a mutagen, a substance that causes genetic change and that therefore might have the potential to cause cancer.

Briefing for Other Westerners

Today, the charge d'affaires at the United States Embassy, Richard E. Combs Jr., briefed members of other Western embassies on the United States's findings and allegations. The Soviet denial read in full: ''The Soviet side resolutely denies the absurd allegations that some chemical agents are used on the staff of U.S. agencies in the U.S.S.R. Nothing of the kind was ever practiced or is practiced in our country. The attempts to make such claims to us are not only absolutely out of place but also totally unacceptable.

''One cannot help seeing behind the raising of this artificial question a quite definite scheme, that of preparing the ground for another slander campaign against the Soviet Union, poisoning the atmosphere in relations between our countries and fomenting enmity towards the Soviet people.

''It is outrageous that the American side has decided it possible to use such a gross falsehood, which pursues the ends that are far removed from the interests of improving our relationships.

''Protesting against this act of provocation against the U.S.S.R., we are warning that the American side will bear all responsibility for the possible consequences of actions of this sort.''

There was also considerable speculation on how the Russians would have used the purported tracking agent, and for what specific purposes.

A touch of humor could be heard in many of the conversations among foreigners. Some elaborately wiped their hands before shaking hands, others talked of ''snorting spy dust,'' and still others talked of getting ultraviolet flashlights to check their steering wheels.

READ ARTICLE HERE ~~~>http://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/23/world/soviet-denies-using-chemical-to-track-americans.html (http://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/23/world/soviet-denies-using-chemical-to-track-americans.html)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones October 29, 2013, 06:25:54 PM
  Who do ya trust......
  I honestly don't want to get into Putinas if he the entire topic, so I suppose I'm making a curve, USSR learned the hard way in the Afghanistn invasion, broke, busted, disqusted, vets rattled, body counts and defeated.
   They have been putting the nation ( RUSSIA) back on line, isn't it time the citizens realized we need to do the same.   
Why can't the USA/GP...............get the mucken message.........USSR -VS -Afghanistan was called their Vietnam/ bear trap etc.
                                       What can we call our multiple,  perpetual wars.
                       I'm not praising any gov, just the simple fact wars have collateral effect , the price paid in blood and money is hardly mentioned as if it is herecy, those that do are traitors, disidents, anarchists..
      Any one ever see a MSM broadcast that mentions the wars cost about a billion a day....
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight October 30, 2013, 04:15:49 PM
Not empire building, huh. BSx 55 Billion!!!


Russia's New Empire: Nuclear Power 

...at a multilevel booth for Rosatom, Russia's state-owned nuclear company, which exuded a Steve Jobs vibe of pure whiteness and know-how. That was where “newcomers,” as the Russians fondly call them, from nations that do not have nuclear power plants heard about options and signed cooperation agreements for Rosatom to build or even operate reactors for them.

The big show was all part of a Kremlin-backed $55-billion plan to make Russia a leading global supplier of nuclear power. Already the country intends to build roughly 40 new reactors at home, and it expects as many as 80 orders from other countries by 2030. Included are facilities that would generate power and desalinate water, of particular interest in the Middle East. The expansion comes as Germany is abandoning nuclear power, the U.S. industry is struggling and Japan is in the midst of soul-searching about its post-Fukushima intentions. President Vladimir Putin has called the build-out “a rebirth, a renaissance” of Russia's nuclear technology.

Rosatom is eyeing British and American markets, too—it owns uranium mines in Wyoming and supplies about half of the fuel used in U.S. reactors, according to the World Nuclear Association. But for now it is primarily targeting developing nations and countries that had close ties to the former Soviet Union. For some of these newcomers, Rosatom has a unique offer: it can be a one-stop nuclear shop. It will provide fuel and will permanently take back the spent fuel from its reactors—eliminating the need for some countries to build geologic waste repositories. That service, offered by no other country, “is a tremendous marketing advantage for the Russians,” says Alan Hanson, who recently joined the Massachusetts Institute of Technology after 27 years as an executive at Areva, Rosatom's French competitor.

See entire article here
http://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/asia-europe-russia-empire-nuclear-power-reactor-generator-expo-sale-kremlin


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones October 30, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
 Chernoble, had a tad of a problem.

 Russias crew of nuke corps are seeking to go on a roll......... I detest nuclear in any from.
 
 Money is the bottom line generally, but in this case it could go a hell of a lot further.

 Every time I have seen a photo of Mars surface, desolate, craters, dead...It's like a forecast of what this planet will be if we continue with Nukes.
 For muck sake, TELSA had the answer moons ago....problem, it was not a money maker for the corps or the GOV, like any genius, inventor, scientist, if they get the answer to cheap -efficient energy they are hired on (bought) paid off their patents, or wacked out.
             
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 October 30, 2013, 08:53:30 PM
Chernoble, had a tad of a problem.

 Russias crew of nuke corps are seeking to go on a roll......... I detest nuclear in any from.
 
 Money is the bottom line generally, but in this case it could go a hell of a lot further.

 Every time I have seen a photo of Mars surface, desolate, craters, dead...It's like a forecast of what this planet will be if we continue with Nukes.
 For muck sake, TELSA had the answer moons ago....problem, it was not a money maker for the corps or the GOV, like any genius, inventor, scientist, if they get the answer to cheap -efficient energy they are hired on (bought) paid off their patents, or wacked out.
             
Mr. Jones you have said what I've told folks for a long time--No Nukes and TELSA Technology: as his Tech. was, for the most part, FREE!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly October 31, 2013, 09:44:46 AM


…. from FORBES magazine:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

World's Most Powerful People 2013 - with
Vladimir Putin beating Obama to the top


List includes 17 heads of state and 28 billionaires

RUPERT CORNWELL  Author Biography  WASHINGTON  WEDNESDAY 30 OCTOBER 2013

Maybe one of geopolitics’ hoariest cliches is in need of revision. At least since the end of the Cold War, “The most powerful man in the world” has been a standard appendage for the President of the United States. Now, if Forbes is to be believed, that title belongs to the leader of America’s vanquished Cold War rival, the President of Russia.

For only the second time since the US business magazine began its practice of listing the world’s most powerful people in 2009, Barack Obama is not ranked No 1 this year. In 2010, the distinction went to Hu Jintao, the former Chinese President. Now it is the hour of Vladimir Putin, right.

… the top 20:

Top dogs: The people who really matter

1 Vladimir Putin; Russian President (3)

2 Barack Obama; US President (1)

3 Xi Jinping; General Secretary of China’s Communist Party (9)

4 Pope Francis; Supreme Pontiff (NA)

5 Angela Merkel; German Chancellor (2)

6 Bill Gates; Co-chair Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (4)

7 Ben Bernanke; US Federal Reserve Chairman (6)

8 Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud; King, Saudi Arabia (7)

9 Mario Draghi; European Central Bank President (8)

10 Michael Duke; Wal-Mart CEO (17)

11 David Cameron; British PM (10)

12 Carlos Slim; Chairman, América Móvil (11)

13 Warren Buffett; CEO, Berkshire Hathaway (15)

14 Li Keqiang; Vice Premier, China (13)

15 Jeff Bezos; Amazon CEO (27)

16 Rex Tillerson; Exxon Mobil CEO (22)

17 Sergey Brin; Co-founder, Google and Larry Page, CEO, Google (20)

18 François Hollande; President, France (14)

19 Tim Cook; Apple CEO (35)

20 Dilma Rousseff; Brazilian President (18)

READ ARTICLE ~~~>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/forbes-reveals-worlds-most-powerful-people-2013--with-vladimir-putin-beating-obama-to-the-top-8913265.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/forbes-reveals-worlds-most-powerful-people-2013--with-vladimir-putin-beating-obama-to-the-top-8913265.html)

THE ORIGINAL from FORBES ~~~>http://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/ (http://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid October 31, 2013, 10:58:55 AM
The West lost the Cold War . . . .

They got freedom, fair elections, capitalisim, gold in the vaults etc . . .

We got a surveillance police state, rigged elections, state ownership of biz, and the gold is gone . . .
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly November 26, 2013, 09:47:32 AM




PRO LIFE RUSSIA!

Since the rise of Putin, the number of abortions in Russia has fallen dramatically.
 
2001: 2.11 million
2003: 1.86 million
2005: 1.67 million
2007: 1.48 million
2009: 1.29 million
2011: 1.0 million

( http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/ab-russia.html (http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/ab-russia.html) )

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/abortions1.png)

2012: 814,000 and falling!

( http://darussophile.com/2013/02/08/the-rapid-and-mostly-unnoticed-decline-of-abortion-in-russia/ (http://darussophile.com/2013/02/08/the-rapid-and-mostly-unnoticed-decline-of-abortion-in-russia/) )

NOVEMBER 25th ~~> Putin signs law banning advertisements for abortion in Russia
Here: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/25/21612179-putin-signs-law-banning-advertisements-for-abortion-in-russia?lite (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/25/21612179-putin-signs-law-banning-advertisements-for-abortion-in-russia?lite)

PLEASE READ ARTICLE HERE~~~>http://www.tomatobubble.com/id401.html (http://www.tomatobubble.com/id401.html)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue November 26, 2013, 11:55:33 AM

Could Putin-Pope Francis visit mark beginning of end of centuries-old rift?
(http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/131125-putin-pope-jsw-115p.photoblog600.jpg)

By Claudio Lavanga, NBC News Producer

ROME — Pope Francis and Russian President Vladimir Putin met Monday amid high expectations that their visit could mark the beginning of the end of the centuries-old rift between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches.
...
Francis has ushered in a period of reform at the Vatican, but the timing is right for a thawing of relations between the Eastern and Westerns Churches for other reasons, too: full diplomatic ties between Russia and the Holy See were only re-established in 2009.

But despite numerous visits by Russian leaders to the Vatican, the head of the Rome Catholic Church has never been allowed to repay the favor and travel to Moscow.

The pope has had a standing invitation to the Kremlin since Mikhail Gorbachev formally invited Pope John Paul II in 1989, but the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church never shared the government’s enthusiasm. Afraid of Catholic evangelization in Eastern Europe, the patriarch never opened the doors of the Orthodox Church to the pope.

...

Still, could a historic papal visit to Russia also come out of the meeting?

Not unless the ultimate blessing comes from Kirill, the Patriarch of Moscow and Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church.

Although, Tornielli, the Vatican expert, pointed out that Kirill “doesn't really need Putin to mediate. He is capable of doing that himself.”

“So I think what will happen next is that he and the pope will meet, but in neutral territory, neither in Rome or Moscow... And they'll go from there.”


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_I_of_Moscow
...
In the early 1990s and later on, Kirill was accused of having links to the KGB during much of the Soviet period, as were many members of the Russian Orthodox Church hierarchy, and of pursuing the state's interests before those of the Church.[32][33][34][35][36][37] His alleged KGB agent's codename was "Mikhailov".[38]
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue January 22, 2014, 12:45:14 PM
NSA Data Mining - Prism Prison - Verizon - Snowden Whistleblower

Interesting how Putin gave Snowden Asylum ,,, makes the ex-kgb man look like a real humanitarian , I wonder is Russia  doing as much sigint as the NSA ?

And the Beat goes on ...  just read the comments  ... technological leverage overcomes many obstacles  that the Stasi and Romanian Secret poice had ,  but looking at the employment levels of the MIC per Citizen  would compare to Stasi levels.

Of course this is now a Global Stasi infrastructure of the future being constructed,  soon Russia will be considered the most "free" "nation".   Putin, a National Hero

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Vladimir_Putin_beefcake-1.jpg)Forget Spinning, Here’s How Vladimir Putin Stays in Shape (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/01/forget-spinning-heres-how-vladimir-putin-stays-in-shape/)


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/21/us-withholding-fisa-court-orders-nsa-bulk-collection?commentpage=1

US withholding Fisa court orders on NSA bulk collection of Americans' data
Justice Department refuses to turn over 'certain other' documents in ACLU lawsuit meant to shed light on surveillance practices

Spencer Ackerman in Washington
theguardian.com, Tuesday 21 January 2014 13.16 EST

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/1/21/1390327353694/1694c31f-bcd8-48a9-b53d-7cf71d7f32f7-460x276.jpeg)
FBI director James Comey, CIA director John Brennan, director of national intelligence James Clapper and Homeland Security secretary Jeh Johnson at Obama's NSA speech. Photograph: Getty

The Justice Department is withholding documents related to the bulk collection of Americans’ data from a transparency lawsuit launched by the American Civil Liberties Union.

US attorney Preet Bharara of the southern district of New York informed the ACLU in a Friday letter that the government would not turn over “certain other” records from a secret surveillance court, which are being “withheld in full” from a Freedom of Information Act suit the civil liberties group filed to shed light on bulk surveillance activities performed under the Patriot Act.

The decision to keep some of the records secret, in the thick of Edward Snowden’s revelations, has raised suspicions within the ACLU that the government continues to hide bulk surveillance activities from the public, despite US president Barack Obama’s Friday concession that controversial National Security Agency programs have “never been subject to vigorous public debate”.
...
Alexander Abdo, an ACLU attorney, noted that the government’s bulk surveillance disclosures have yet to include, among other efforts, a reported CIA program to collect international money transfers in bulk, revealed in November by the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.

“It appears that the government is concealing the existence of other bulk collection programs under the Patriot Act, such as the CIA’s reported collection of our financial records,” Abdo said.

“In other words, on the same day that President Obama recognized the need for a vigorous debate about bulk collection, the government appears to be hiding the ball. We can't have the public debate that President Obama wants without the facts that his agencies are hiding.”

Abdo said that the scope of the ACLU’s disclosure lawsuit only concerned surveillance efforts under Section 215 of the Patriot Act and that surveillance authorizations containing individualized suspicion were already excluded.

The NSA conducts other bulk data collection under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, an update to that law in 2008, and under a three-decade-old executive order known as 12333, all of which are outside the terms of the ACLU’s lawsuit.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 January 22, 2014, 01:45:43 PM
When a known Commie has more clout than leaders of Freedom! Well planet earth is Fading into the abyss of total control: and it is just around the Commie Corner!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue January 22, 2014, 01:52:19 PM
When a known Commie has more clout than leaders of Freedom! Well planet earth is Fading into the abyss of total control: and it is just around the Commie Corner!

Putin is the new Reagan !!! un freaking believable

http://thinksquad.net/2010/10/25/from-russia-with-love/

From Russia With Love
Posted on October 25, 2010   by Thinksquad
...
(http://brainsyndicate.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/19_mhg_putin-reagan.jpg)
Putin and Reagan

Back when Putin was just a KGB spy, he disguised himself as a tourist, and even got closer then John Hinckley Jr. did to the president.

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2429/reaganputin1.jpg)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 January 22, 2014, 01:57:07 PM
Putin is the new Reagan !!! un freaking believable

http://thinksquad.net/2010/10/25/from-russia-with-love/

From Russia With Love
Posted on October 25, 2010   by Thinksquad
...
(http://brainsyndicate.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/19_mhg_putin-reagan.jpg)
Putin and Reagan

Back when Putin was just a KGB spy, he disguised himself as a tourist, and even got closer then John Hinckley Jr. did to the president.
Great Photo Find TahoeBlue: as you have shown proof of the deep infiltration from these Commie Cockroaches!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: WarChest January 22, 2014, 03:32:34 PM
I heard something today.

Vladimir Putin says that dealing with Barack Obama is like playing chess with a pidgin. It walks around knocking over pieces, It $hits all over the board and still thinks that it won.

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 January 22, 2014, 03:47:26 PM
I heard something today.

Vladimir Putin says that dealing with Barack Obama is like playing chess with a pidgin. It walks around knocking over pieces, It $hits all over the board and still thinks that it won.


O'bumbles only plays Chess in the Bath Tub with himself  :P: and he still is Check Mated!...drop the Queen down the drain... ???
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight January 22, 2014, 04:06:56 PM
What is the deal with the little hand shaking kid?  It looks like the same kid in the same pose in both photos.  Wieeerrrrd. :o



Putin is the new Reagan !!! un freaking believable

http://thinksquad.net/2010/10/25/from-russia-with-love/

From Russia With Love
Posted on October 25, 2010   by Thinksquad
...
(http://brainsyndicate.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/19_mhg_putin-reagan.jpg)
Putin and Reagan

Back when Putin was just a KGB spy, he disguised himself as a tourist, and even got closer then John Hinckley Jr. did to the president.

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2429/reaganputin1.jpg)


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly January 22, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
 ^ ^ ^ ^

quote; OpenSight:
What is the deal with the little hand shaking kid?  It looks like the same kid in the same pose in both photos.  Wieeerrrrd.


 …  ??? VERY Wieeerrrrd! Kid looks like a cardboard cutout!
Gotta be some kind a mash-up. Maybe they just photoshopped
Putin in to a couple different views of the same scene?

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue January 26, 2014, 10:28:20 PM
Romney been readin' this thread:

http://nypost.com/2014/01/25/putins-a-better-president-than-obama-romney-says/
Putin a better president than Obama: Romney
By Aaron Short
January 25, 2014

Mitt Romney thinks Vladimir Putin is better at being president than Barack Obama.

Romney, who lost the presidential race to Obama, told NBC that the Russian leader “outperformed” the president “time and time again on the world stage.”

The former GOP nominee called the US and Russia “geopolitical adversaries,” blamed Putin for giving cover to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and said fugitive leaker Edward Snowden’s asylum in Russia was a “bit of a stick in the eye of America.”

But Romney gave Putin grudging respect as his nation prepares to host the Winter Olympics.

“I think most observers of the international political scene suggest that Russia has elevated itself in stature and America has been diminished,” Romney said.
...
Romney, who managed the 2002 Winter Games in Salt Lake City, said he had no qualms about bringing his family to the Olympics in Sochi next month, despite the threat of terrorism.

(http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/2012/12/se-cupp-duck-dynasty1.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01768/putin_1768930b.jpg)

(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003182461/Putin_Romney200dpiColor_answer_3_xlarge.jpeg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid January 27, 2014, 10:34:08 AM
Romney been readin' this thread:

Putin might !!!

FSB reads the entire forum

 ;D
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones January 27, 2014, 01:00:54 PM
 The communist USSR had their Afghanistan later Gorbachev brought down the wall.
 Russia is no longer communist.
 Putin.
achievements and failures
14:42 01/03/2008
Achievements
1. A rapid economic growth. The progress made by the Russian economy in the past eight years is truly impressive. GDP has gone up about 70%, industrial growth has been 75% and investments have increased by 125%, regaining Russia its place among the world's top 10 economies. Russia's GDP in 2007 reached the 1990 level, which means that the country has overcome the consequences of the economic crisis that devastated it in the 1990s. Now it is facing a more challenging task of making a transition to an innovation-driven economy.
2. Russia has become an energy superpower thanks to a policy under which the government controls a substantial part of the oil and gas sector and its revenues. The same is going on in the bulk of raw materials producing countries.
State control of the sector in Russia has made the fuel and energy companies completely open and transparent to investors.
After the government has taken over a controlling stake in Gazprom, the energy giant became a truly public company, and liberalized its share market.
Rosneft, the largest state-controlled oil company in Russia, went public in 2006, attracting thousands of Russian and foreign investors, including many individuals.
The ultra-liberal reform of electricity monopoly RAO UES is to result in its liquidation this summer. The government will hold only the grid and distribution services, while all energy sales and generating companies will belong to private investors.
3. An efficient management of oil revenues. It has become clear by the end of Vladimir Putin's second term that the state has adopted a wise policy of managing oil export revenues, considering that oil prices have been growing for the past eight years.
The Stabilization Fund was established in 2004 to accumulate oil revenues for a rainy day. A year later it exceeded 500 billion rubles ($18 billion) and within two years it accumulated enough revenues to repay all of the Soviet Union's debts. Deductions to the fund helped reduce the inflation pressure on the economy.
In 2007, the fund accumulated enough for investment; some of it was channeled into Russian development institutions. In late January 2008, it was split into the Reserve Fund (designed to protect Russia from possible global financial shocks) and the National Welfare Fund, whose revenues will be used for the pension reform.
4. A growth of industrial production. The 1998 financial crisis in Russia boosted industrial development. According to the Federal State Statistics Service, industrial growth made 11.9% in 2000 but slowed down to 3.7% in the next two years as the effects of the crisis wore off. A new rise began in 2003 and industrial growth reached 6.3% in 2007. The situation in manufacturing was especially good, its growth exceeded that of GDP. Last year, production in manufacturing grew by 9.3%, while growth in mining was only 1.9% and electricity production dropped by 0.2%.
5. A growth of incomes. In the last eight years, real incomes in Russia more than doubled while poverty halved. The proportion of population living below the poverty line decreased from 30% in 2000 to 14% now. The average wage increased from 2,200 rubles ($90) to 12,500 rubles ($500) over the past eight years, and the average pension, from 823 rubles ($33) to 3,500 rubles ($140). Most importantly, wages and benefits have been growing faster than inflation (by 20%-25% in 2007).
  Putin, can we believe all of the slander we read produced by the controlled MSM, if you want to, sure go ahead.
My take on this guy, he is clever and maintains an insight into the core of the global NWO takeover, I don't believe he is playing along as the elites would like to see.
 He is not intimidated by the powers on high, he maintains a giant ego but makes no bones about about. Despite all the criticism of being a bully, he has made moves to put Russia and the citizens on the curve upward.
 It's been said he made promises and kept them, unlike some others we know.
 Russia is not longer a communist government and *just to mention I am not a communist.
 Are there still problems, sure its not Disney land by any means but it has shed communist doctrine.
 The people are doing better, for that reason alone ya just have to tip your hat.What stands out is the people are doing a a tad better.
 
Russia has a flat tax rate, Russia's New 13% Flat-Tax On
Income Rakes In The Cash
4-15-2

MOSCOW (AP) - Like many Russians, Nellie dreads her annual visits to the local tax office, with its long lines, surly officials, and Byzantine tax forms. But recently, the 66-year-old grandmother, who supplements her meager pension by cleaning apartments, had a pleasant surprise.
"My taxes were three times lower," she said. "They must have understood they were too high before."
 
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue January 27, 2014, 09:31:27 PM
A lot of people don't know that Putin put a BILLIONAIRE in jail for years ...    

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/russian-oil-tycoon-mikhail-khodorkovsky-leaves-jail-a-free-man-flies-to-germany-1.1601814
Russian oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky leaves jail a free man, flies to Germany

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/12/19/Foreign/Images/2013-12-19T134705Z_01_MOS17_RTRIDSP_3_RUSSIA-PUTIN-KHODORKOVSKY-PARDON-9743.jpg)

Nataliya Vasilyeva and Frank Jordans, The Associated Press
 Published Friday, December 20, 2013 6:31AM EST

BERLIN -- After spending 10 years in Russian jails for what many in the West believe were trumped-up offences, Mikhail Khodorkovsky left prison a free man Friday and immediately flew to Germany.

Russian President Vladimir Putin pardoned his long-time rival Friday morning and the country's Federal Penitentiary Service said Khodorkovsky quickly left the IK-7 prison in the remote northwestern village of Segezha.

Khodorkovsky had petitioned to be allowed to travel to Germany to meet his mother who is undergoing medical treatment, the Penitentiary Service said in a statement.

In a statement released on the website of his lawyers and supporters, Khodorkovsky said his application for a pardon was not an admission of guilt.

"I am very much waiting for the minute when I can embrace my nearest and personally shake the hands of all my friends and colleagues," he said in the statement.

During his time in prison on politically tinged charges of tax evasion and embezzlement, the 50-year-old Khodorkovsky has shifted his image from a powerfully wealthy, often arrogant oligarch into a respected dissident. The former oil tycoon became a political thinker and editorial writer who argued for social justice and placed the blame for Russia's stagnating economy squarely on its longtime leader Putin.

It wasn't clear whether Khodorkovsky would continue his opposition to the Kremlin or even choose to return to Russia.

Putin's announcement less than 24 hours before the release that Khodorkovsky would be pardoned appeared to catch both the public and Khodorkovsky's lawyers by surprise. His release was equally shrouded in mystery. Several hours before he was allowed to go, Khodorkovsky's lawyers and family said they still had no idea when he would be let out.
....

The pardon appeared to be a sudden turnaround for the Kremlin, which has vigorously prosecuted Khodorkovsky since his arrest in 2003, in what was widely seen as Putin's retribution for the tycoon's political ambitions.

Freeing Russia's most famous prisoner -- along with an amnesty this for two jailed members of the Pussy Riot punk band and the 30-member crew of a Greenpeace protest ship -- appears aimed at easing international criticism of Russia's human rights record ahead of February's Winter Olympics in Sochi, Putin's pet project.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight January 28, 2014, 03:46:41 PM
Wow, he really has changed...or maybe he just gets along better with wealthy oligarchs than he does with Journalists...



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Peter Preston, in today's Observer, catalogues the deaths of journalists in Russia in the dozen years since Vladimir Putin came to power.

It makes for grim reading, but it merits repeating by as many journalists outside Russia as often as possible:

    "In 2011, three journalists dead (including newspaper editor Khadzhimurad Kamalov, shot 14 times as he left his office).

    In 2010, two killed; in 2009, five more (including a young reporter from Novaya Gazeta, caught in a hail of bullets). Add four for 2008, one in 2007 and then 2006 as Anna Politkovskaya, the most famous victim of them all, is murdered.

    But she wouldn't forget Yevgeny Gerasimenko – found in his Saratov flat with a plastic bag pulled over his head and computer missing – and nor should we.

    Two Russian journalists died in 2005, and three in both 2004 and 2003; but 2002 was a wicked year, with eight lost (including Valery Ivanov, battling editor, shot in the head) and 2001 added another victim.

    Putin's reign of power in 2000 began with six dead reporters and editors: a grim portent, looking back, of bad things to come."

Preston concludes: "He is elected time and again. Yet a free press seems to mean pitifully little to him. You investigate? You report? You die, unavenged."

Source: The Observer

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/mar/11/journalist-safety-vladimir-putin

see also
http://www.economist.com/node/8023316
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones January 28, 2014, 06:54:35 PM
 No argument from me, my only point was he has at minimum helped the growth of the average Joe citizenry.
 Do I buy into his methods, ..........no I don't.
 I don't think much of our last few administrations as well.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid January 29, 2014, 04:15:15 AM
Oligarchs' power over Kremlin has come to an end, says Putin



By Ben Aris in Moscow
12:00AM BST 29 Jul 2000
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/1350892/Oligarchs-power-over-Kremlin-has-come-to-an-end-says-Putin.html





PRESIDENT PUTIN met 21 of Russia's oligarchs yesterday to tell them that their political power was at an end. He said the businessmen, many of them billionaires, would not be allowed to wield influence in the Kremlin, but offered them the olive branch of keeping the companies they won during Russia's privatisations.

Boris Nemtsov, leader of the Union of Right Forces party and a reformer who helped to organise the meeting, said: "This is the end of the oligarchs in Russia. All the businessmen present agreed to live under equal conditions and that there would be no more special conditions for anyone."

The meeting came at the end of two months that have seen several leading businessmen come under attack, causing rising tension among Russia's rich and powerful. Mr Putin told the heads of industry that he was calling a ceasefire, but would give no guarantees that legal actions against them would not be resumed. Mr Nemtsov said: "The revolutionary period of the redistribution of property has come to an end. The oligarchs are tired of being oligarchs and want to be loyal citizens instead."

Vladimir Potanin, a leading oligarch, said: "Mr Putin confirmed that he will meet the businessmen on a regular basis. I think he perceives the businessmen more as partners than as enemies." Mr Potanin, a former first deputy prime minister, is credited with initiating the loans-for-shares privatisation scheme, from which he was the biggest beneficiary. His Interros company controls some of Russia's largest oil and metal producers.

The small band of top businessmen have amassed vast fortunes over the past 10 years through their close connection with the Kremlin and former president Yeltsin. Mr Putin had pledged to end the cosy relations between business and the Kremlin after he was elected in March, saying he would "rid Russia of the oligarchs as a class". His opening volley came in June when the media mogul, Vladimir Gusinsky, was thrown in jail for three days on graft charges, later dropped.



After Mr Gusinsky's arrest several other businessmen found themselves and their companies under investigation. But the campaign against the oligarchs has largely settled old scores against the Kremlin's political opponents, leaving those oligarchs thought to be closest to the Kremlin untouched. The notable absentees from yesterday's meeting and the attacks of the last two months were Boris Berezovsky and Roman Abramovich.

Both are thought to have been in Mr Yeltsin's innermost circle, and Mr Berezovsky is credited with masterminding Mr Putin's election campaign. The pair's apparent exemption raises questions as to how independent Mr Putin really is. Mr Gusinsky also did not attend the meeting. Prosecutors dropped proceedings against him on Wednesday and he immediately left for Spain to join his family. What is clear is that Mr Putin has been pulling back from the oligarchs.

Sergei Karaganov, the deputy director of the Council on Foreign and Defence Policy, said: "By withdrawing his support from the oligarchs, Mr Putin is giving a signal to various interested groups that they can take actions against these businessmen with impunity." There is little love lost between the largest oligarch groups. Under Mr Yeltsin the most powerful was "the Family", led by Mr Berezovsky and Mr Abramovich. Although this group has lost its prime position, it remains influential and has many allies in the Kremlin.

Mr Putin, already doing battle against regional governors, may have decided the fighting was getting out of hand and called yesterday's meeting to declare victory and a ceasefire.

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones January 29, 2014, 03:05:45 PM
 Hi  EvadingGrid.
                     I read this article two times, I'm getting old and having a hard time getting to the bottom line.
This would be on a par U.S  with telling the .01% to stay out of politics.
              Please give me your thoughts.         Thanks E..
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie February 08, 2014, 06:36:38 PM
PRESIDENT PUTIN met 21 of Russia's oligarchs yesterday to tell them that their political power was at an end. He said the businessmen, many of them billionaires, would not be allowed to wield influence in the Kremlin, but offered them the olive branch of keeping the companies they won during Russia's privatisations.

Boris Nemtsov, leader of the Union of Right Forces party and a reformer who helped to organise the meeting, said: "This is the end of the oligarchs in Russia. All the businessmen present agreed to live under equal conditions and that there would be no more special conditions for anyone."


PUTIN just doesn't like the competition.  He wants to rule it all. :o
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Dude447 February 08, 2014, 06:54:17 PM
Putin is old school KGB mafia  his saving grace for me, He keeps the UK and USA somewhat in check with there freaking lunatic war world wide plans
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 08, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
 Putin, I get it - but at the very least he isn't a fake.
 No fairly tales for the masses, no hundred promises ,, all of em a pizztake.
 There is an common expression in some country's, people respect a guy that "shows his face".. A man who lets people see him for what he is and doesn't hide behind titles, uniforms, positions, and the OLE act.
  What ya see is what ya got, has he done right for the GP of his country, it kinda looks that way.
The MSM will rag on about pussy riots and whatever else they can slam him with, I get it, but they truly don't give him a drop of the Ole positive, the MSM aren't allowed to.
  After the USSR had their Afghanistan, they were flat out broke, busted and disgusted.
Communism , went down the tubes-so they say. Hey this guy, like him or hate him, (doesn't matter )- he did this for his country.
 
 
 
 
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly February 08, 2014, 08:17:17 PM
^ ^ ^ ^ ^


What he said! +1

 … well said, Bro.

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TonkaTim February 08, 2014, 08:21:11 PM
Communism , went down the tubes-so they say.

So they say....
 — 21 —
What will be the influence of communist society on the family?

It will transform the relations between the sexes into a purely private matter which concerns only the persons involved and into which society has no occasion to intervene. It can do this since it does away with private property and educates children on a communal basis, and in this way removes the two bases of traditional marriage – the dependence rooted in private property, of the women on the man, and of the children on the parents.

And here is the answer to the outcry of the highly moral philistines against the “community of women”. Community of women is a condition which belongs entirely to bourgeois society and which today finds its complete expression in prostitution. But prostitution is based on private property and falls with it. Thus, communist society, instead of introducing community of women, in fact abolishes it.


— 22 —
What will be the attitude of communism to existing nationalities?

The nationalities of the peoples associating themselves in accordance with the principle of community will be compelled to mingle with each other as a result of this association and thereby to dissolve themselves, just as the various estate and class distinctions must disappear through the abolition of their basis, private property.

— 23 —
What will be its attitude to existing religions?

All religions so far have been the expression of historical stages of development of individual peoples or groups of peoples. But communism is the stage of historical development which makes all existing religions superfluous and brings about their disappearance

Principles of Communism -1847
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie February 10, 2014, 03:01:01 AM
So they say....
 — 21 —
What will be the influence of communist society on the family?

It will transform the relations between the sexes into a purely private matter which concerns only the persons involved and into which society has no occasion to intervene. It can do this since it does away with private property and educates children on a communal basis, and in this way removes the two bases of traditional marriage – the dependence rooted in private property, of the women on the man, and of the children on the parents.

And here is the answer to the outcry of the highly moral philistines against the “community of women”. Community of women is a condition which belongs entirely to bourgeois society and which today finds its complete expression in prostitution. But prostitution is based on private property and falls with it. Thus, communist society, instead of introducing community of women, in fact abolishes it.


— 22 —
What will be the attitude of communism to existing nationalities?

The nationalities of the peoples associating themselves in accordance with the principle of community will be compelled to mingle with each other as a result of this association and thereby to dissolve themselves, just as the various estate and class distinctions must disappear through the abolition of their basis, private property.

— 23 —
What will be its attitude to existing religions?

All religions so far have been the expression of historical stages of development of individual peoples or groups of peoples. But communism is the stage of historical development which makes all existing religions superfluous and brings about their disappearance

Principles of Communism -1847
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

Yep.  Communism has not died, it's just put on a pretty face.  :D   A 'kinder, gentler' face.  ;)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 10, 2014, 11:31:57 AM
I really get fed up with people trying to make out Putin is a communist.

So annoyed that I'm going to say "If Putin is a communist the Ron Paul is Karl Marx."

Get this, Putin scrapped the progressive Income Tax which increased the more you earn, and replaced it with a Flat Rate of 13%. Now take a moment to imagine how much better off you would be if your tax rate was slashed to 13%.

He also, at the same time told the corporations and oligarchs, who never paid an taxes, because taxes are for serfs, not the ruling elite, that they was now going to pay that 13% tax or rot in jail. At this point, Putin became number one target for the Rottenchild Agent propaganda machine.
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 10, 2014, 11:49:40 AM
I really get fed up with people trying to make out Putin is a communist.
,...
He also, at the same time told the corporations and oligarchs, who never paid an taxes, because taxes are for serfs, not the ruling elite, that they was now going to pay that 13% tax or rot in jail. At this point, Putin became number one target for the Rottenchild Agent propaganda machine.
 

Yes,  Putin is Doing nearly all the right things ... I'd say He's more of a Nationalist and a Socialist ...  And exactly, the Brahmin classes in this country and across the world  pay minimal taxes   (
 see; Its time to Repatriate Offshore Trillions by force if necessary  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=255084.0)

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2003/03/russias-flat-tax-miracle
Russia's Flat Tax Miracle -
March 24, 2003
By Daniel J. Mitchell, Ph.D.

It's never fun to admit failure. But Russia's 13 percent flat tax forces me to confess a certain degree of incompetence. For 10 years, I've been working in Washington to replace our convoluted tax code with a simple and fair flat tax. But as every taxpayer can attest, my efforts have not borne fruit.

 Yet in Russia, President Vladimir Putin -- the former head of the Soviet KGB -- implemented a flat tax in 2001. Not only a flat tax, but a flat tax with a 13 percent rate, four percentage points lower than the supposedly "radical" plan espoused by Steve Forbes and former House Majority Leader Dick Armey. And it's been a big success.

 Imagine how this makes me feel. I've tried to help reform the tax system in the United States, a nation the rest of the world considers the home of unfettered capitalism and free-market principles. Yet every year, our tax code gets bigger and more complicated. In Russia, by contrast, the flat tax has been in place for more than two years now. And this reform took place in a nation still trying to overcome the legacy of more than 70 years of communist dictatorship.

....

But perhaps our luck will change. The Russian flat tax has been so successful that even American politicians might learn the right lessons. Let's look at the evidence: Russia's economy has expanded by about 10 percent since it adopted a flat tax. That may not be spectacular, but it's better than the United States, and it's very impressive compared to the anemic growth rates we see elsewhere in Europe.

 It also appears, conventional wisdom aside, that a low tax rate doesn't mean less money for government. Over the last two years, inflation-adjusted income tax revenue in Russia has grown 50 percent. Why? Because people are willing to produce more and pay their taxes when the system if fair and tax rates are low -- exactly what Ronald Reagan predicted when he triggered America's economic boom with lower tax rates 20 years ago. Ironically, the former communists in Moscow now understand supply-side economics, yet liberals in Congress are still relying on the politics of hate-and-envy.

 Interestingly, the flat tax is just one of several positive reforms enacted by President Putin. Russia also has reduced the corporate rate of tax from 35 percent to 24 percent. (U.S.-based companies still pay 35 percent, the second-highest corporate tax among industrialized nations). Small businesses also get better treatment. The old system with high tax rates has been replaced by a new system where companies can choose either a 6 percent tax on gross revenue or a 15 percent tax on profits.
...

| - - - -

http://thefederalist-gary.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-13-russian-flat-tax-for-gerard.html

Thursday, January 10, 2013
 
A 13% Russian flat tax for Gerard Depardieu

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sWtPXwzCR5M/UOy6A3tjasI/AAAAAAAAhSQ/VZTHpHGbjuw/s400/11-Depardieu-putin.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRaXbA7bFYQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fe8YH5hT1fk


 The film star received a Russian passport at the weekend but retains his French citizenship reports BBC News.
...
He has developed close ties with Russia and during his visit at the weekend hugged President Vladimir Putin, who described him as a friend.

 Moscow has offered him a flat tax rate of 13% if he stays in the country for more than half the year. On his trip to Russia he travelled to the central region of Mordovia, which has invited him to make his home there.

 But the actor said on Monday he was not turning his back on his country.

 "I have a Russian passport, but I remain French and I will probably have dual Belgian nationality," he told French sports channel L'Equipe 21.

...
In his new film, he will play the disgraced former French finance minister and head of the International Monetary Fund, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, a man Depardieu has called "a little like all French people, a little arrogant".
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight February 10, 2014, 06:12:53 PM


What Is Communism? The Definition
In a nutshell, communism is a social system in which the community controls the economy and in which property is commonly owned.

 Plato went a step further and also advocated the sharing of spouses and children. Now I got your attention.

Communism is the opposite of capitalism.



What Is the Difference Between Communism and Socialism?
Communism is Socialism with extra zing.

Here is the more detailed answer phrased by Paul Sweezy and Leo Huberman in their 1968 Introduction to Socialism.


    What is the difference between Socialism and Communism?

    Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning. Socialism grows directly out of capitalism; it is the first form of the new society. Communism is a further development or higher stage of socialism.

    [...]

    The Communists believe that as soon as the working class and its allies are in a position to do so they must make a basic change in the character of the state; they must replace capitalist dictator­ship over the working class with workers dictatorship over the capitalist class as the first step in the process by which the existence of capitalists as a class (but not as individuals) is ended and a class­less society is eventually ushered in. Socialism cannot be built merely by taking over and using the old capitalist machinery of government; the workers must destroy the old and set up their own new state apparatus. The workers state must give the old ruling class no opportunity to organize a counter-revolution; it must use its armed strength to crush capitalist resistance when it arises.

    The Socialists, on the other hand, believe that it is possible to make the transition from capitalism to socialism without a basic change in the character of the state. They hold this view because they do not think of the capitalist state as essentially an institution for the dictatorship of the capitalist class, but rather as a perfectly good piece of machinery which can be used in the interest of whichever class gets command of it. No need, then, for the working class in power to smash the old capitalist state apparatus and set up its own. The march to socialism can be made step by step within the framework of the democratic forms of the capitalist state.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight February 10, 2014, 06:15:34 PM
Sorry, forgot to reference the above definition source.

http://www.emersonkent.com/history_dictionary/communism.htm
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 10, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
 I understand the  word communism is offensive to most folks. Got it, OK.

 Tell me then please, We had Daddy Bush ( more than I can enter), Lil GWB ( 911 & Iraq Invasion) , Jeb ( S & L fraud hall of fame) kinda like the the Corleone family on parade.          Is that capitalism, Democracy, what is it?

 We can spend all day taking shots a Putin, Russia, etc..I would be inclined to first examine home turf..Things here are not so comfy..Is there a 01% running us, the mist is in the air, are we capable of branding a GOV label for the past 50 years and seeing clearly what has happened here..
 My bottom line, capitalism is global, they can call it anything they so desire, but human beings are by nature  capitalists on every level of society. THOUGH Corporations and their elite boss hogs might not appreciate a little guy interfering in their profits or their plans.
   
Communism, the 01% are the power, they run the show, privileged..It doesn't work, disfunctional. OK< what about our nation, who runs the deal..
  End, whats good for Russia is their business, they seem to be doing a tad better than the communist USSR..





Capitalism Definition | Investopedia
www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalism.asp‎
Definition of 'Capitalism'. A system of economics based on the private ownership of capital and production inputs, and on the production of goods and services ...
 
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight February 10, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
I understand the  word communism is offensive to most folks. Got it, OK.

 Tell me then please, We had Daddy Bush ( more than I can enter), Lil GWB ( 911 & Iraq Invasion) , Jeb ( S & L fraud hall of fame) kinda like the the Corleone family on parade.          Is that capitalism, Democracy, what is it?


Capitalism Definition | Investopedia
www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalism.asp‎
Definition of 'Capitalism'. A system of economics based on the private ownership of capital and production inputs, and on the production of goods and services ...
 
 

Hey Chris.  Good question.  Here is the short answer.

What Is Crony Capitalism

Crony capitalism and genuine capitalism, if not opposites, are fundamentally opposed. Unfortunately the broader public, to date, is largely unaware of this.

Crony capitalism is the marriage of the state and private special interests. Some people have called it corporatism, mercantilism, fascism, or even Communism.

We will call it crony capitalism.

By whatever name, it is phony capitalism.

Over the years the public has been taught that many of the problems it faces on a day to day basis such as the lack of jobs, rising prices, corruption in Congress, and so on are a result of capitalism.

If so, it is a perverted capitalism.

These unsavory realities are largely the result of government/private “partnerships.” Whether in banking, agriculture, housing, energy, transportation, manufacturing, or nearly any other facet of the economy, the “unsavory” parts are often the result of public/private collusion.

Why can’t you get any kind of return on your money in a CD, the traditional vehicle for retirees? Crony capitalism.

Why can Goldman Sachs, the largest investment bank, speculate in markets using newly printed government money that has been borrowed virtually for free? Crony Capitalism.

Why is Detroit a shadow, barely a shadow, of what it once was? Crony capitalism.

Why are there more farm regulators than farmers? Crony capitalism.

Why does Congress write laws that are longer than the Old Testament with obscure, impossible to understand language? Crony capitalism.

When the state and powerful private interests collude the result is a cocktail of market distortion.

Genuine capitalism in comparison, is quite simple. Capital is invested by individuals to further ideas and enterprises that the investor thinks will create a return on the money invested. If the enterprise in question is a good one, both investor and business owner win. If not- better luck next time.

It’s clear. It’s simple. It’s moral.

However, invariably once the state gets involved as investor, or “regulator”, things start to morph and twist. As sure as the sun rises, coercion and corruption rear their heads.

Crony capitalism can take many forms including regulatory capture ( regulated interests actually using government power to squelch competition), zoning, licensing, in some cases even copyright, and hundreds of other ways. The one thing all of these “tools” have in common, however, is that they are used by the politically connected few to extract money and power from the unconnected many.

Government gives a veil of legitimacy to actions taken by individuals and groups that would be considered unethical (at best) without government “permission.” More often government also uses its power to make everyone play along. If you break a law, you can go to jail.
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: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 10, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
Opensight, Yaah-that sums it up nicely.......THANKS.
  The hammer hits the nail on the head..
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 10, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
Opensight, Yaah-that sums it up nicely.......THANKS.
  The hammer hits the nail on the head..

Must viewing on crony Crapitalism:

Dr. John Coleman: The Club of Rome, Chatham House And The Committee of 300

A great insight into the ruling hierarchy of the global system, from the Committee of 300 and the Black Nobility of Venice, to the "clearing houses" of global policy, the Club of Rome and the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and their many branches across the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA51CAJTenM
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 11, 2014, 12:35:50 PM
http://www.canada.com/olympics/news/fisher-an-encounter-with-russian-president-vladimir-putin
(http://wpmedia-games.canada.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/putin.1.jpg)
Vladimir Putin (R) is the greatest superstar of the Olympics. (Photo by Mikhail Klimentyev/AFP/Getty Images)

...
An Orthodox priest told Putin that religious freedom was practised in Sochi, with all confessions represented and respected
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 13, 2014, 02:11:59 PM
http://www.actualitte.com/societe/soljenitsyne-appreciait-poutine-identite-des-russes-wikileaks-23027.htm
Solzhenitsyn liked Putin, Russian identity (Wikileaks)
By Clement S. , The Thursday, December 2, 2010

The Wikileaks revelations never end, and political content would necessarily involve at one time or another writers. It would have been great to discover Wikileaks at the time of Aragon to discover what really were his relations with the Russian and French Communist Party ...

But if the little Louis, the little Alexander Solzhenitsyn that we will listen through the indiscretions of Wikileaks, while the latter, four months before his death, had princely compliments ... Vladimir Putin.

Indeed, Ambassador William Burns who visited in April 2008 the Russian writer in his dacha near Moscow had sent a telegram to Washington to deliver his thoughts on the Nobel Prize, the exiled former USSR, from 1974 and returned home 20 years later. memory of man ... "

Solzhenitsyn, who turns 90 in December, declining health for some time , "says the ambassador. And report some health problems, like a sore arm and the loss of energy of the legendary writer. However, his speech was clear, alert and always lucid. He added that his wife, Natalia, did not hesitate to contradict her husband when she felt it necessary. Yet when the conversation turns to politics, Solzhenitsyn is involved and loose comments disavowing the policies of Yeltsin and Gorbachev.

The two men, according to his words then, helped cause irreversible damage to the country 70 years of communism had already quite damaged.

" Under Putin, the nation has rediscovered what it meant being Russian, Solzhenitsyn thought. " Putin, yes, but not without errors What is not no mistake: if the protest philosopher endorses the behavior of Putin, Solzhenitsyn was not completely fooled, and he regretted that he had enlarged the gap between rich and poor.

Similarly, he deplored the decision to abolish the system of election of governors in Russia -., Which now are appointed Medvedev, the writer never had the opportunity to meet him, but he sensed in him a man capable straighten the country permanently. And U.S. Ambassador noted that hostility vis-à-vis the communist regime was probably even more important than we thought " . Younger Russians have not quite understood the dangers of Soviet communism " and Ambassador to conclude that the man kept an eye glued to the news seriously and had kept a mind alert to what is going on ...


http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2008/08/05/toward_end_solzhenitsyn_embraced_putins_russia/
Toward end, Solzhenitsyn embraced Putin's Russia

(http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/08/04/1217904439_3205/539w.jpg)
Vladimir Putin (right) visited Alexander Solzhenitsyn (center) last year in the outskirts of Moscow. For the former dissident, who returned to Russia in 1994, Putin was the country's savior. (ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE)

By Peter Finn 
Washington Post / August 5, 2008 

MOSCOW - In the last years of his long and stubbornly contrarian life, Alexander Solzhenitsyn finally found a political system he could embrace: Vladimir Putin's Russia.

"Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people," Solzhenitsyn told the German magazine Der Spiegel in a 2007 interview, when Putin was still president. "And he started to do what was possible, a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard-pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments."

That Putin, a former KGB officer, should find an ardent champion among the most prominent victims of the agency he once served might seem bizarre. But Solzhenitsyn, who died Sunday at age 89, was always a very Russian puzzle: a brilliant curmudgeon, wrapped in heroism, inside a whopping ego. He was a man who exposed the murderous brutality of the Soviet Union but also lambasted what he saw as the spiritual vacuity of the West.

Solzhenitsyn had long signaled in his writing and speeches that the Russia of his dreams was no clone of Western-style democracy. It was instead a place apart from and suspicious of the West, acutely aware of its destiny as a great power and unique culture and steeped in the values of the Russian Orthodox Church and Slavic nationalism.
...

Putin, who now serves as prime minister, remembered Solzhenitsyn with equal affection yesterday.

"We are proud that Alexander Solzhenitsyn was our compatriot and contemporary," said Putin in a statement released by his office. "We will remember him as a strong, courageous person with a great sense of dignity. His activities as a writer and public figure, his entire long, thorny life journey will remain for us a model of true devotion, selfless service to the people, motherland and the ideals of freedom, justice and humaneness."
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie February 13, 2014, 03:23:58 PM
http://www.actualitte.com/societe/soljenitsyne-appreciait-poutine-identite-des-russes-wikileaks-23027.htm
Solzhenitsyn liked Putin, Russian identity (Wikileaks)
By Clement S. , The Thursday, December 2, 2010




http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2008/08/05/toward_end_solzhenitsyn_embraced_putins_russia/
Toward end, Solzhenitsyn embraced Putin's Russia

(http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/08/04/1217904439_3205/539w.jpg)
Vladimir Putin (right) visited Alexander Solzhenitsyn (center) last year in the outskirts of Moscow. For the former dissident, who returned to Russia in 1994, Putin was the country's savior. (ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE)

By Peter Finn 
Washington Post / August 5, 2008 

MOSCOW - In the last years of his long and stubbornly contrarian life, Alexander Solzhenitsyn finally found a political system he could embrace: Vladimir Putin's Russia.

"Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people," Solzhenitsyn told the German magazine Der Spiegel in a 2007 interview, when Putin was still president. "And he started to do what was possible, a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard-pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments."

That Putin, a former KGB officer, should find an ardent champion among the most prominent victims of the agency he once served might seem bizarre. But Solzhenitsyn, who died Sunday at age 89, was always a very Russian puzzle: a brilliant curmudgeon, wrapped in heroism, inside a whopping ego. He was a man who exposed the murderous brutality of the Soviet Union but also lambasted what he saw as the spiritual vacuity of the West.

Solzhenitsyn had long signaled in his writing and speeches that the Russia of his dreams was no clone of Western-style democracy. It was instead a place apart from and suspicious of the West, acutely aware of its destiny as a great power and unique culture and steeped in the values of the Russian Orthodox Church and Slavic nationalism.
...


Didn't Adolf Hitler do the same thing?  Revive Germany from the ashes of WWI?  I have no problems with Putin restoring Russia and her people to prosperity, that is the job that every country's leader SHOULD do.  THe problem I have is when they get their ambitions further afield.  And the NWO people NEVER do anything without a practice run. WWII and their chosen puppet (Hitler) was the practice run.  And remember, 'nation-states' are not in the plan for GLOBALISM.  A single 'world government/leader/religion/economic system' is what they have designed.  Where Putin fits in to that design, well...............
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 13, 2014, 03:44:25 PM
Didn't Adolf Hitler do the same thing?  Revive Germany from the ashes of WWI?  I have no problems with Putin restoring Russia and her people to prosperity, that is the job that every country's leader SHOULD do.  THe problem I have is when they get their ambitions further afield.  And the NWO people NEVER do anything without a practice run. WWII and their chosen puppet (Hitler) was the practice run.  And remember, 'nation-states' are not in the plan for GLOBALISM.  A single 'world government/leader/religion/economic system' is what they have designed.  Where Putin fits in to that design, well...............

Hitler knew the banks created money, and so by controlling the money supply controlled the economy. So what Hitler did was to trade in commodities, by passing the banks and effectively neutering there control.

Putin has looked at the kick arse capitalist economies, and copied them by slashing taxes to a flat rate of 13%. The looser was the corps and oligarchs, who did not pay taxes.

Just imagine if it happened in America, your income tax was slashed to 13%, and the likes of Rockafella and Rothschild had to pay taxes !


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 13, 2014, 04:02:11 PM
Hitler knew the banks created money, and so by controlling the money supply controlled the economy. So what Hitler did was to trade in commodities, by passing the banks and effectively neutering there control.

Putin has looked at the kick arse capitalist economies, and copied them by slashing taxes to a flat rate of 13%. The looser was the corps and oligarchs, who did not pay taxes.

Just imagine if it happened in America, your income tax was slashed to 13%, and the likes of Rockafella and Rothschild had to pay taxes !
           13% income tax for all people, no corp sellouts. It can't happen here, they won't let it...!!!
           
 DEBT,DEBT, and more DEBT...we are Muked ..Why aren't our elected wonders questioning as to where the money went, congress-gosh, golly, gee willackers-- which way did it go... (3 guesses).. Isn't it about time our boyz on high asked WHY! 
           Didn't Clinton had a bit to do with corp end runs ( banks) legislation.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight February 13, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
Didn't Adolf Hitler do the same thing?  Revive Germany from the ashes of WWI?  I have no problems with Putin restoring Russia and her people to prosperity, that is the job that every country's leader SHOULD do.  THe problem I have is when they get their ambitions further afield.  And the NWO people NEVER do anything without a practice run. WWII and their chosen puppet (Hitler) was the practice run.  And remember, 'nation-states' are not in the plan for GLOBALISM.  A single 'world government/leader/religion/economic system' is what they have designed.  Where Putin fits in to that design, well...............

So, America marches toward "communism", while Russia marches toward "capititalism" to meet in the middle as "globalism".  Meanwhile, the greatest theft of wealth and freedom takes place right under our noses...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 13, 2014, 05:04:57 PM
Just imagine what would happen if Putin ran America.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie February 13, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
So, America marches toward "communism", while Russia marches toward "capititalism" to meet in the middle as "globalism".  Meanwhile, the greatest theft of wealth and freedom takes place right under our noses...

THESIS                     VS                ANTITHESIS            = SYNTHESIS
\         /                                         \              /                 \               /

Capitalism (Crony)                         (Communism)              GLobalism


Yep, looks like the plan is unfolding rather nicely for them.  Antithesis (Communism) already crumbled....now they are in the process of dismantling Capitalism.  For the THIRD WAY.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie February 13, 2014, 06:47:39 PM
Just imagine what would happen if Putin ran America.


I'm sure there were many Polish people who thought the same thing about Herr Hitler.

And I'm sure that Putin probably thinks the above as well.

Don't drink the Putin-Aid. ???
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 13, 2014, 07:33:18 PM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/13/the-making-of-brand-putin.html
The Making of Brand Putin

All this exposure, even if it means ridicule, is part of Putin’s master plan to maintain Russia as a superpower—and himself as its superhero.

Long before there was Obama Girl, there was Putin Girl. Or, rather, Putin Girls.

It’s 2002. Two women—part of a Russian pop duo “Singing Together” —come on screen, dancing to a catchy electro-pop beat. “My boyfriend is in trouble again, got in a fight got drunk on something nasty,” they sing in Russian. No, they say, instead of their intoxicated deadbeat boyfriend, they want someone…someone like Putin.

2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7w3aLRx-qw
Takogo kak Putin/Chlapa jako Putin (Česká verze)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlwaHdfHbJA
One Like Putin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5mlTmaCws
Takogo kak Putin (Superstar 2008)

http://russmus.net/song/1396
One like Putin
Translation by katya

My boyfriend is in trouble once again:
Got in a fight, got drunk on something nasty
I've had enough and I chased him away
And now I want a man like Putin

One like Putin, full of strength
One like Putin, who won't be a drunk
One like Putin, who wouldn't hurt me
One like Putin, who won't run away!

I've seen him on the news last night
He was telling us that the world has come to crossroads
With one like him, it's easy to be home and out
And now I want a man like Putin

One like Putin, full of strength
One like Putin, who won't be a drunk
One like Putin, who wouldn't hurt me
One like Putin, who won't run away!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNSNqV975PQ
Putin with good friends
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie February 14, 2014, 08:30:13 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/13/the-making-of-brand-putin.html
The Making of Brand Putin

All this exposure, even if it means ridicule, is part of Putin’s master plan to maintain Russia as a superpower—and himself as its superhero.

Long before there was Obama Girl, there was Putin Girl. Or, rather, Putin Girls.

It’s 2002. Two women—part of a Russian pop duo “Singing Together” —come on screen, dancing to a catchy electro-pop beat. “My boyfriend is in trouble again, got in a fight got drunk on something nasty,” they sing in Russian. No, they say, instead of their intoxicated deadbeat boyfriend, they want someone…someone like Putin.

2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7w3aLRx-qw
Takogo kak Putin/Chlapa jako Putin (Česká verze)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlwaHdfHbJA
One Like Putin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5mlTmaCws
Takogo kak Putin (Superstar 2008)

http://russmus.net/song/1396
One like Putin
Translation by katya

My boyfriend is in trouble once again:
Got in a fight, got drunk on something nasty
I've had enough and I chased him away
And now I want a man like Putin

One like Putin, full of strength
One like Putin, who won't be a drunk
One like Putin, who wouldn't hurt me
One like Putin, who won't run away!

I've seen him on the news last night
He was telling us that the world has come to crossroads
With one like him, it's easy to be home and out
And now I want a man like Putin

One like Putin, full of strength
One like Putin, who won't be a drunk
One like Putin, who wouldn't hurt me
One like Putin, who won't run away!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNSNqV975PQ
Putin with good friends

Ah, the "Personality Cult" in the making.

Just like Adolf, Josef, Chairman Mao, even Obummer (even though his is being 'tarnished'....in my opinion by design.  Nobody could be as stupid as his actions.  NOBODY.  Except those who continue their cult worship)

History teaches us that man learns nothing from history.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 14, 2014, 09:59:26 AM
I'm sure there were many Polish people who thought the same thing about Herr Hitler.

And I'm sure that Putin probably thinks the above as well.

Don't drink the Putin-Aid. ???

You did not consider the question.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie February 14, 2014, 10:41:47 AM
You did not consider the question.


I doubt he would 'run our country' the same way that he does Russia.  Because there can only be one 'SUPERPOWER" in the future, that much is obvious because 2 are now not needed to compete against each other.  Hitler didn't 'run' Poland or Czechoslovakia the same way he 'ran' Germany, did he?

Anyway, we may just get a chance to see that very thing.  The "third way" that Gorbachev spoke of is happening, whether you realize it or not.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: One Revelator February 14, 2014, 12:05:46 PM
Putin has certainly had one helluva PR campaign over the years. He’s long been painted up as the tough-as-nails, people’s president, not afraid to get his hands dirty. Why, there’s 34 photos of “action man” Putin at this link. In the air, under the water, on the land…


Vladimir Putin, Action Man
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/09/vladimir-putin-action-man/100147/

Even moar photos here:

50 Pictures of Vladimir Putin Looking Like a Complete Badass

http://www.funnyordie.com/slideshows/7df05c1f10/pictures-of-vladimir-putin-looking-like-a-complete-badass

I’m half expecting to see pics of him wrestling with a grizzly bear. No shirt, no weapons. Just brilliant cunning and sheer strength of will.

Wait….what?

(http://media.giphy.com/media/4FmAAThFW0ZjO/giphy.gif)

Close enough.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 14, 2014, 04:48:04 PM
  I get the feeling these were not simply photo ops, that this guy enjoys the lifestyle.
 Why would a guy who has it all take a submerseable down to 1,400 feet if he didn't get a kick out of it. He could break his neck riding a horse in the bush, but he can also play a piano and hug a puppy.

 Well he could on the other hand decided to promote gay marriage, illegal alien rights, have a few wars to feed Russia's MIC, increase taxes, cut pensions, leave the coming generation in debt.

 He has done right for his people whatever you may think of this guy.

P.S. Our MSM is screaming about Pussy Riots for years, not much about our rebs killing civilians, invasions/wars, innocents slaughtered, Gitmo bay, the money (debt) involved, etc?
 Pussy riots was done in a cathedral, a place of worship. What would have happened if they had done this in a Muslim temple of worship.
 I never got a clear picture of why they did their gig in a church, do you guys know? I think the sentencing was over the top, got it, but again why did they have to be in a cathedral to pull this off ,ya know why not in front of the Kremlin. It doesn't mix well or am I off the map, they say this was a political message but why this location?
 

 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly February 15, 2014, 10:01:11 PM
Has President Putin married former Olympic gymnast?
Alina Kabayeva flashes 'wedding ring' at TV cameras


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/screenshot_230.jpg)


 * Renewed rumours President Putin has married gold-medalist Alina Kabayeva
  * Speculation erupted in September that the pair were marrying in the town of Valdai after political opponent tweeted   about the nuptials
  * 30-year-old Olympic gymnast filmed this week flashing a wedding ring at TV cameras while she attended an event
Vladimir Putin, 61, was spotted wearing a ring on his wedding ring finger when he met the Egyptian defence minister last week
  * In Russia wedding rings are worn on the right hand rather than the left


At the time Alexei Navalny, Putin’s most charismatic political rival, tweeted: ‘I’m told that Putin and Kabayeva are marrying today at the Iver Monastery. All of Valdai sealed off.’

However, Mr Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, later dismissed the claims as ‘an internet exercise to relieve boredom’.


READ ARTICLE ~~~>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560278/Has-President-Putin-married-former-Olympic-gymnast-Alina-Kabayeva-flashes-wedding-ring-TV-cameras.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560278/Has-President-Putin-married-former-Olympic-gymnast-Alina-Kabayeva-flashes-wedding-ring-TV-cameras.html)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 15, 2014, 10:46:41 PM
 I get the feeling these were not simply photo ops, that this guy enjoys the lifestyle. ...


I think you are spot on  about this . Sort of What I was thinking anyway. Putin has been very protective of the orthodox church so the P riot action the church was indefensible, so who told them " oh go do that that'll be good!"  ?  Maybe Soros?

I think Putin has a bucket list!



http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/entertainment&id=9373578
Pussy Riot still want to topple President Vladimir Putin
Friday, December 27, 2013

KRASNOYARSK, Russia --  Two members of the Russian punk band Pussy Riot who spent nearly two years in prison for their irreverent protest in Moscow's main cathedral said Friday they still want to topple President Vladimir Putin. They didn't say how they plan to do it.

Nadezhda Tolokonnikova and Maria Alekhina were among three members of the band arrested after its brief, unauthorized performance in Christ The Savior Cathedral in March 2012, calling on the Virgin Mary to protect Russia against Putin who was on the verge of being elected to a third term in office.

All three were convicted of religious hooliganism and sentenced to two years. Tolokonnikova and Alekhina were released this week under a broad general amnesty measure; the third was released on a suspended sentence last year.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 February 17, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Putin is a KGB Commie: what does the West not understand?

When our way of life is dictated by Commies: What does that say for FREEDOM?

Stay in the Light of Christ!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 17, 2014, 10:48:34 PM
Putin is a KGB Commie: what does the West not understand?

When our way of life is dictated by Commies: What does that say for FREEDOM?

Stay in the Light of Christ!

 Hi iamac, I'm not promoting Putin nor communism. Nor do I have a solid line on Putin. The USSR was communist though they assert the fact  communism has been eradicated, they are now Simply Russians seeking to rebuild after their Afghanistan war and dismal fall into the disqrace and devistation.
  I have to say at minimum he has helped his people despite the MSM attacks.
Communism doesn't work, only 10% were party members, ruling factions. He realizes free enterpise, capitolism is a human trait, we all want a better life. It has been said he is religious, I can't back this up for its news chatter.
  Does Russia seeks to make a move on the USA, not likely, they don't have to , our politicians are doing all fine by themselves with the guidance of the NWO,Eilites,supercorps. The power are doing just fine, insiders.
  The take down of this nation could only be accomplished from the inside, it is a syndicate has been in play for a centruy, 1913 began the roller coaster ride.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 18, 2014, 11:46:42 AM
Putin is a KGB Commie: what does the West not understand?

When our way of life is dictated by Commies: What does that say for FREEDOM?

Stay in the Light of Christ!


Tellingly, “a heavy progressive or graduated income tax” is Plank #2 of the Communist Manifesto, which was written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels and first published in 1848. - http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/taxes/


Just remember, Putin introduced a Flat Rate on income tax of 13%. By doing that, it firmly places Putin among the hardcore extreme right wing.

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 18, 2014, 12:01:05 PM
NOTA BENE

They would never ever have done this to undermine Communist Russia, this is all because they can not stand Putin ever since he told the Illuminati Rottenchild Agents to stick it where the sun don't shine.



US and EU Are Paying Ukrainian Rioters and Protesters

Paul Craig Roberts
Infowars.com
February 18, 2014
http://www.infowars.com/us-and-eu-are-paying-ukrainian-rioters-and-protesters/


A number of confirmations have come in from readers that Washington is fueling the violent protests in Ukraine with our taxpayer dollars. Washington has no money for food stamps or to prevent home foreclosures, but it has plenty of money with which to subvert Ukraine.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 18, 2014, 01:09:02 PM
 Hi EvadingGrid.
                    Organizers/infiltrators get serious money. These are the guys or gals that have a talent  are recruited or mentored to create a rumble, they then get headlines from the MSM here.
                    Pussi riots, done in a Cathedral, taped and gone world wide. Released and doing interviews on CNN as if they are heroes.You can Bet your bippy they have a cash flow and managed. What amazes me is the G.P. falling for the game. I Take that back CNN addicts are true believers in the faces on their tube.
                    Putin , has put his nation back on track, but do you hear the news media mention that fact, NOPE.
What you do hear is about ragged weather at  the Olympics, or a minute fraction of demos are expounded upon.
                   It's not publicized all Russia's citizens pay a flat 13% income tax, that pensions have been raised or their national debt is next to nothing. They paid the price for their Afghanistan war and communist rule.
                   Folks can think whatever they want about Putin, OK, but they must admit at some point he has done the right thing for his people.
       
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 18, 2014, 01:29:26 PM
Putin Approval Levels 60-70%

(http://b-i.forbesimg.com/markadomanis/files/2014/01/Dec11-Dec13-Putin-Approval.png)


Obama Approval Levels

(http://www.cristyli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Obama-Presidential-Approval-Numbers.jpg)

Congress Approval Levels 9%

(http://c1planetsavecom.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2011/11/Congress-approval-rating-chart.png)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 18, 2014, 02:51:52 PM
 Hi E.
      The comparison is in evidence, thanks E.
       I wonder why folks continue to consider Russia a communist nation.. Borgy and Rony took down the wall, in fact  Migail Borgachov was kidnapped and held hostage by the military die hard communists but escaped, it was the end of the Commie party.
      If there are stones to be thrown pray it not be from glass houses.
        I personally give credit to any leader who cares about the commoner.
     
       
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: OpenSight February 19, 2014, 04:01:27 PM
A SHORT GUIDE TO THE

RUSSIAN POLITICAL SYSTEM


INTRODUCTION

The Russian political system is one of the more recent to embrace democracy but remains deeply flawed in terms of its democratic credentials, overwhemingly tainted by corruption, and massively influenced by the power and personality of one man, Vladimir Putin.

The Russian Federation was the largest nation to emerge from the break up of the Soviet Union in December 1991. Following the constitutional crisis of 1993, Russia adopted a new constitution in a referendum of December 1993. Essentially the country is described as a federal presidential republic.

........

THE PRESIDENT

The constitution of 1993 provides strong powers for the President. The President has broad authority to issue decrees and directives that have the force of law without legislative review, although the constitution notes that they must not contravene that document or other laws. Indeed Russia's strong presidency is sometimes compared with that of Charles de Gaulle in the French Fifth Republic (1958-69).

..........

POLITICAL PARTIES

The main political party is called United Russia. It was founded in April 2001 as a result of a merger between several political parties. It describes itself as centrist, but it is essentially a creation of Vladimir Putin and supports him in the Duma and the Federation Council. In the last Duma elections of December 2011, even with the alleged voting iregularities, United Russia's share of the vote fell by 15% to just over 49% and the number of its deputies fell by 77 to 238.

The main opposition party is the Communist Party of the Russian Federation led by Gennady Zyuganov. In the last election, it won 19% of the vote and took 92 seats.

........

CONCLUSION

While Russian democracy may not be a total oxymoron, it is most certainly a work in progress with Vladimir Putin remaining a massive influence on the acquisition and exercise of power. Observers describe the current state of the Russian political system as "managed democracy" or "sovereign democracy" or simply as "Putinism".

The dismissal of Russia's powerful prosecutor-general Yuri Skuratov in 1999, the indictment of Russia's richest oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky in 2003 and again in 2010, the unexplained murder of investigative journalist Anna Plitkovskaya in 2006, the death in prison of the lawyer Sergei Magnitsky in 2009, the imprisonment of the three Pussy Riot members Maria Alyokhina, Nadezhda Tolokonnikova & Yekaterina Samutsevich in 2012, the expulsion from the Duma of opposition deputy Gennady Gudkov in 2012, and the conviction of opposition leader Alexei Navalny in 2013 are but the most dramatic examples of the iron grip on political power exercised by Putin and his allies.

The dominant political clan in Russia is often referred to as the siloviki, veterans of the security and military establishment led by Putin himself. Some believe that there is a more liberal clan focussed around Medvedev. Perhaps to the surprise of external observers, Putin's leadership is still popular among the public outside the major cities, partly because it is seen as restoring Russia's standing after the humiliating collapse of the Soviet Union, partly because it follows in a long historic tradition of strong central leadership stretching from the Tsars and through Stalin.

More widely, the political battle lines in Russia are not for or against democracy or corruption; all parties are notionally for democracy but know that it does not exist, while all parties are theorectically against corruption but do nothing to tackle it. The real battle line is between centralisation and regionalism, that is whether all meaningful power should reside in the Kremlin or whether power should be shared with the regions and major cities.

http://www.rogerdarlington.me.uk/Russianpoliticalsystem.html
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue March 24, 2014, 12:46:17 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/putin-signs-draft-treaty-making-crimea-part-russia-n55411
Putin Signs Draft Treaty Making Crimea Part of Russia
By Albina Kovalyova

(http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2014_12/259786/140318-putin-jsw-10a_c4a961b800cd0777dc53bd4cade94cec.jpg)

MOSCOW - President Vladimir Putin defiantly signed a draft treaty making Crimea part of Russia Tuesday, despite the threat of even more U.S. sanctions against his country.

The document was signed in front of cameras and cheering lawmakers gathered in the Kremlin. It is expected to be ratified later by Russia’s parliament.

Crimea’s new Prime Minister Sergey Aksyonov, parliamentary speaker Vladimir Konstantinov and Sevastopol Mayor Oleksiy Chaly also signed the document.

The signing came after an impassioned address from Putin in which he attacked the West over its handling of the Ukraine crisis.


Crimeans voted overwhelmingly to secede from Ukraine and join Russia in Sunday's referendum, which was condemned by the Ukrainian government and its allies as illegitimate.

The U.S. and E.U. responded to the referendum Monday by imposing asset freezes and travel bans on Russian and Ukrainian officials.

Lawmakers are expected to consider Friday whether to ratify the treaty, although this could happen sooner in light of Putin’s rapid efforts to secure Russian control of the peninsula.

Alastair Jamieson and Alexander Smith contributed to this report from London.

First published March 18th 2014, 6:39 am
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Outer Haven September 11, 2014, 06:25:45 AM
What about this:
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/vladimir-putin-henry-kissinger-2009-3-20-15-30-15.jpg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 11, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
 What did the Crimean citizens want?
 92% wanted to be annexed by Russia. This is old news and don't have the time for stats, if you have a different poll please advise.
In response: Shaking hands for the PRESS, a photo op.  What would have happened if Putin refused to have this photo op and shake hands with Lil Henry.. 
 I''m a fan of the LIL people, seems to me Russian peons are a tad better of than under the commie regime.


 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue September 11, 2014, 02:39:58 PM
What about this:
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/vladimir-putin-henry-kissinger-2009-3-20-15-30-15.jpg)

It's interesting - this was the "pressing the reset button on US Russia relations !!!  

March 19, 2009

http://www.russiaotherpointsofview.com/2009/03/kissinger-other-former-top-us-officials-push-to-repair-ties-with-welcoming-but-wary-kremlin.html

KISSINGER, OTHER FORMER TOP US OFFICIALS PUSH TO REPAIR TIES WITH WELCOMING BUT WARY KREMLIN

Kissinger_Putin_1 By Douglas Birch, Associated Press

Some of the biggest names in U.S. diplomacy of the past decades met with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and other Kremlin leaders Friday, in an effort to improve frosty relations that experts say could threaten many U.S. foreign policy goals.

In some of his most upbeat comments about U.S. relations since President Barack Obama took office, Medvedev said his meetings with current and former U.S. officials in recent weeks "reflect the goal of our nations to significantly improve ties."

After greeting a delegation led by former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, Medvedev praised the American initiative, first announced by Vice President Joe Biden, to "press the reset button" on U.S.-Russia relations.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Outer Haven September 19, 2014, 11:46:05 AM
Putin says 9/11 inside job would be impossible to conceal:
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-08-03/911-inside-job-impossible-conceal-says-vladimir-putin

He's right! We're talking about it right now!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones September 19, 2014, 03:25:04 PM
 It wasn't concealed it was done in the open.
 The bigger the lie syndrome.
 FAA,NORAD , etc, etc,  etc,  etc,,,ZIPO........ 
  What's the name of that dog'y on the bugs bunny cartoons, ya know , "DUHHHH  WHICH WAY DID HE GO HALL OF FAME".
  Mucken..... sickning.
 
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue October 01, 2014, 12:12:34 PM
Interesting the timing of this article:
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/09/30/garry-kasparov-putin-most-dangerous-man-in-world/
Garry Kasparov: Putin ‘Most Dangerous Man In World’

September 30, 2014 6:22 PM

WASHINGTON (CBS DC) – The world’s best known, and arguably greatest, chess player warns that Russian president Vladimir Putin is playing a dangerous game against the rest of the world.

In an interview on Yahoo News, Garry Kasparov calls the attention on the Islamic State terrorists in Iraq and Syria a sideshow.

“Putin is the most dangerous man in the world, a greater threat to the United States than the Islamic State,” Kasparov told Yahoo News.

He is appalled that the U.S. is now arming Syrian rebels, but have refused to honor a similar request from Ukraine.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie October 13, 2014, 09:32:56 PM
Interesting the timing of this article:
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/09/30/garry-kasparov-putin-most-dangerous-man-in-world/
Garry Kasparov: Putin ‘Most Dangerous Man In World’

September 30, 2014 6:22 PM

WASHINGTON (CBS DC) – The world’s best known, and arguably greatest, chess player warns that Russian president Vladimir Putin is playing a dangerous game against the rest of the world.

In an interview on Yahoo News, Garry Kasparov calls the attention on the Islamic State terrorists in Iraq and Syria a sideshow.

“Putin is the most dangerous man in the world, a greater threat to the United States than the Islamic State,” Kasparov told Yahoo News.

He is appalled that the U.S. is now arming Syrian rebels, but have refused to honor a similar request from Ukraine.
...

As we move towards "SYNTHESIS".......

THESIS     VS    ANTITHESIS   = SYNTHESIS

TPTB rule both sides....now it's just POOTY's turn to assume the MESSIAH mantel...........
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: ncjoe October 13, 2014, 09:44:31 PM
(http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii504/ncjoe67/BzSgf7_CcAA7PxE_zps5a19a9eb.jpg) (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/ncjoe67/media/BzSgf7_CcAA7PxE_zps5a19a9eb.jpg.html)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: One Revelator October 13, 2014, 11:19:33 PM
As we move towards "SYNTHESIS".......

THESIS     VS    ANTITHESIS   = SYNTHESIS

TPTB rule both sides....now it's just POOTY's turn to assume the MESSIAH mantel...........

Well, since he’s the only one sitting on lots of nukes to stop the insane tyranny of this country, I can easily see him playing a future role by, say, 2016. Besides, it’s part of the plan. All that PR painting him up as the ultimate conservative leader appeals to the public and fixes the scenario.

It’s part of turning “govcorp” into just “corp”. They’ll survive just fine. Maybe even thrive.

If the US throws Israel under the bus, then that scenario is guaranteed. There was a hint of this during the GW Bush days.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue November 06, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/us-director-oliver-stone-wants-putin-film-153657138.html;_ylt=AwrBJR5WrVtUKRgAvOfQtDMD
US director Oliver Stone wants to make Putin film
AFP
By Maria Aantonova 2 hours ago


 Moscow (AFP) - US director Oliver Stone wants to make a documentary about Russian President Vladimir Putin, he said Thursday on a visit to Moscow, where he is working on a film about fugitive whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The controversial film-maker has already made a documentary about his relationship with the former Cuban leader Fidel Castro, as well as "My Friend Hugo", a tribute to the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez.

"I would interview (Putin) to show the point of view that Americans don't want to hear about," Stone told RIA-Novosti news agency. "I would like to make a documentary about him."

Stone met Putin earlier this week after an event in a Moscow theatre.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue November 06, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
[ What can I say ... ? ]

http://observer.com/2014/11/russian-lawmaker-proposes-mailing-putin-sperm-to-impregnate-russian-women/
Russian Lawmaker Proposes Mailing Putin Sperm to Impregnate Russian Women

'Each female citizen of Russia will be able to receive by mail the genetic material of the President'

By Kevin B. Sanders | 11/06/14 2:31pm   

...
“The essence of my proposition is simple”, says the Chairwoman Of Parliamentary Commission on Women’s affairs, Children and Family, Yelena Borisovna Mizoulina. “Each female citizen of Russia will be able to receive by mail the genetic material of the President, get pregnant from him and have a baby. These mothers will be receiving special allowances from the government.”

Ms. Mizoulina, who holds a PhD in law, made the proposal in a roundtable discussion regarding the issue of fertility and Russia. She went on to describe what would happen after President Putin’s babies were born, presuming that they will be male, at least in the translation commissioned by the Observer.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Letsbereal November 06, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
I go hard like Vladimir Putin ;) http://youtu.be/K-yw27am0GE?t=40s
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue November 06, 2014, 05:47:07 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Americans4Putin
Americans for Putin

(http://rlv.zcache.com/putin_for_president_usa_2016_pinback_buttons-re374f44def52448abd6eaa7100ebea91_x7j1f_8byvr_512.jpg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Outer Haven November 11, 2014, 04:36:49 AM
Interesting the timing of this article:
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/09/30/garry-kasparov-putin-most-dangerous-man-in-world/
Garry Kasparov: Putin ‘Most Dangerous Man In World’

September 30, 2014 6:22 PM

WASHINGTON (CBS DC) – The world’s best known, and arguably greatest, chess player warns that Russian president Vladimir Putin is playing a dangerous game against the rest of the world.

In an interview on Yahoo News, Garry Kasparov calls the attention on the Islamic State terrorists in Iraq and Syria a sideshow.

“Putin is the most dangerous man in the world, a greater threat to the United States than the Islamic State,” Kasparov told Yahoo News.

He is appalled that the U.S. is now arming Syrian rebels, but have refused to honor a similar request from Ukraine.
...
Bobby Fischer, the best chess player ever, said Kasparov prearranged all his world title matches. He also said, "If Kasparov attacks Putin, that's like an endorsement for Putin!".
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones November 11, 2014, 08:16:33 PM
 Glass houses & stones.
 Any Pol who gives a twit about his people deserves recognition. Thats said I have no serious concerns about Putin taking over the world or returning to the commie regime.
 My concern is  our regime, weighed in the balance, whats your analysis, our present and past few regimes Regimes under the ole spotlight.  For those who may question, my mindset is not to suggest Putin is up for sainthood, just creds for giving a twit about his people.
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O November 19, 2014, 09:22:11 PM
Recent German Interview In English With Putin [video]
http://russia-insider.com/en/2014/11/18/07-50-10pm/ard_interview_russian_president_putin
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid November 20, 2014, 11:33:29 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Americans4Putin
Americans for Putin

(http://rlv.zcache.com/putin_for_president_usa_2016_pinback_buttons-re374f44def52448abd6eaa7100ebea91_x7j1f_8byvr_512.jpg)

Let me see . . . .

He would slash income tax to 10% - and enforce tax on the elite.

He would support marriage

He would support people having more children

He would persecute foreign interests trying to whore the media

He would ban GMO Food


Obviously deeply committed ex-KGB NWO Agent - LOL

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy November 23, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Putin: "Maybe I will candidate for president 2018. Maybe I won`t. I won`t be a president for life."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-president-life-27114012http://
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue November 28, 2014, 01:38:55 PM
http://rt.com/news/209223-mickey-rourke-boxing-moscow/
Mickey Rourke’s Russian adventure: Boxing, meeting Putin, looking to adopt dog
 Published time: November 27, 2014 04:22
 
Hollywood star Mickey Rourke – a sex symbol of the 1980s – is enjoying his time in Russia this week. The actor, who is not a newcomer to the Russian capital, is getting ready for a boxing match in Moscow on Friday.

The 62-year-old, who has also been pursuing a boxing career, will appear in the ring in a five-round match versus a much younger American boxer.
...

(http://blobsvc.wort.lu/picture/bdecda17075c7564afb5eb5b6aaac5dd/577/356/wortv3/9e6e12023bdddb8bd28f4c97a733366b63cf721f)

...

The American A-lister recently made headlines in connection with Russia, after he publicly expressed his favor towards the country’s leader, President Vladimir Putin.

“I actually met Putin and I had a good feeling about him. I liked him, we got along very well and he seemed like a really ok guy to me,” Rourke said at a news conference in Moscow.


 When asked by RT why he bought a t-shirt with Putin’s image on it, Rourke simply said he “felt like it,” adding that he actually bought a few more because several of his friends in New York also “wanted some.”
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly November 30, 2014, 09:58:03 AM


… Putin on ice.

Published on Nov 28, 2014
Russian President Vladimir Putin has played hockey with the former head of the Kontinental Hockey League, Alexander Medvedev, and his successor in office, Dmitry Chernyshenko.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEwzaozwfDI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEwzaozwfDI)

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid November 30, 2014, 02:47:11 PM
Putin: "Maybe I will candidate for president 2018. Maybe I won`t. I won`t be a president for life."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-president-life-27114012http://

At least Putin has some plans to retire, some time in the future.
Not as bad as the Bush-Clinton tag team, with Jeb Bush versus Hilary Clinton coming up next !
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy December 04, 2014, 03:59:11 PM
Russia will not be dismantled like Yugoslavia, says Putin in state-of-the-nation address - See more at:

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/world/europe/story/russia-will-not-be-dismantled-yugoslavia-says-putin-state-the-nation-address#sthash.gGIta2iu.dpufhttp://

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid December 04, 2014, 04:10:48 PM
Putin says 9/11 inside job would be impossible to conceal:
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-08-03/911-inside-job-impossible-conceal-says-vladimir-putin

He's right! We're talking about it right now!

 ;D
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie December 06, 2014, 05:01:51 PM

 ... here's a couple interesting videos ... Putin
and his religion (Catholic) ... to me, he comes off
as thoroughly authentic, not some faux religionist
like so many politicians, no matter the country
or the religion in question.

What do you think?


VLADIMIR PUTIN SPEAKS ABOUT HIS BAPTISM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXhHqfMFLCI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXhHqfMFLCI)


PUTIN AND THE CHURCH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgWVAfHNZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgWVAfHNZM)


"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior... I am fighting for the work of the Lord." - Speech, 12 April 1921 ["Adolph Hitler: A perverted Christian?", Terry Mattingly On Religion] Hitler confesses Jesus as "Lord and Savior".

"Hitler is reported to have spoken, glowingly, about raising the 'treasures of the living Christ,' the persecution of the 'true Christians and sanctimonious churches that have placed themselves between God and man and to turn away from the anti-Christian , smug individualism of the past,' and 'to educate the youth in particular in the spirit of those of Christ's words that we must interpret anew: love one another; be considerate of your fellow man; remember that each of you is not alone a creature of God, but that you are all brothers!" [Turner, "In Hitler-- Memoirs of a Confidant", Ch. 23; Emphasis added]

"In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might ..." ["Catholicism & Fascism: A Brief Retrospective", by Robert E. Nordlander, April, 1990]

"Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross." [Ibid]

"As a Christian ..." [Ibid.; Repeated many times]

"For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." [Ibid.]

"When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited." [Ibid.]

 "The church is certainly necessary for the people. It is a strong and conservative element." ["Memoirs" Albert Speer, p. 95] Later on this same page, Albert Speer noted that Hitler strongly believed that the Christian church was indispensable in political life

"We don't want to educate anyone in atheism. ["Hitler's Table-Talk", p. 6]

"God is with us" - [Calic, Edouard, Ed., "Secret Conversations With Hitler," The John Day Company, p. 6: NOTE: Hitler repeated this phrase exceedingly often in his speeches, and he always drew the applause].

"We do not forget the influence of the churches" [Ibid., p. 79]

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator" [Hitler, Mein Kampf] Like President Bush, Hitler invoked the "Almighty" consistently in his speech; also like Bush, Hitler was NOT speaking of the Biblical Almighty, Omnipotent God, Creator of the Universe. Rather, Hitler and Bush both are thinking of the "Almighty Force" -- god of forces [Daniel 11:38]

Hitler Flashes Martin Luther New Testament!

"The established Methodist church paper, the Friedensglocke, vouched for the authenticity of a story about Hitler where he invited a group of deaconesses from the Bethel Institutions into his home at Obersalzberg .. The deaconesses entered the chamber and were astonished to see the pictures of Frederick the Great, Luther, and Bismarck on the wall ... One sister could not refrain from saying: 'Herr Reichkanzler, 'from where do you get the courage to undertake the great changes in the whole Reich?' Thereupon Hitler took out of his pocket the New Testament of Dr. Martin Luther, which one could see had been used very much, and said earnestly: "From God's word." [Helmreich, Ernst Christian, "The German Churches Under Hitler," Wayne State University Press, 1979, p., p. 139]

 "...that is why the prophet seldom has any honor in his own country." [Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf); referring to Jesus' words, John 4:44]
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly January 06, 2015, 02:11:12 PM


;D

This is good.
It's Rense.com's lead art today …
source unknown.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/putinsplshh.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/putinsplshh.jpg.html)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 12, 2015, 04:10:17 PM
drudge:

BACK FROM THE BRINK
http://news.yahoo.com/leaders-minsk-crucial-ukraine-peace-talks-051912803.html
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/syPbDQpmfXC67vWsKSVN6g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM3NztpbD1wbGFuZTtweG9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz02NzA-/http://globalfinance.zenfs.com/images/US_AFTP_CNBC_E2H_LIVE/102421365-RTR4IZU8.1910x1000_original.jpg)

Marathon talks produce Ukraine peace deal; cease-fire Sunday
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok February 12, 2015, 04:29:19 PM
Putin is (p)resident  8)
: Peter Hitchens 'Why I Like Vladimir Putin' at the University of Bristol
: EvadingGrid February 14, 2015, 03:09:07 PM
Peter Hitchens 'Why I Like Vladimir Putin' at the University of Bristol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeO44STvnJw

Bio : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hitchens

Peter Jonathan Hitchens (born 28 October 1951) is an English journalist and author. He has published six books, including The Abolition of Britain, The Rage Against God and The War We Never Fought. Hitchens writes for Britain's The Mail on Sunday newspaper and is a former foreign correspondent in Moscow and Washington. He continues to work as an occasional foreign reporter and in 2010, in recognition of his foreign reporting, he was awarded the Orwell Prize.

Hitchens describes himself as a Burkean conservative,[1] and he is a frequent critic of political correctness. He is the younger brother of the late writer Christopher Hitchens.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 14, 2015, 05:52:37 PM
 He is on the level. It's refreshing to see a guy with credentials speak strait up.
 Breshnev knew not only the wall had to come down, that the power structure had to hit the road.
 Afhganistan X Soviet Union- was definelty a wake up call.
 Mass Memory loss, Vietnam's collaterall effect in every  manner domestically, the innocents slaughtered, Americas sons KIA, and the following  recession.
 Putin nor the Russian people don't want a full blown war, Russians clawed theyr'e way back ater Afghanistan, safe to say they leaned their lesson.. Did we after Nam, doesn't appear so!
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 28, 2015, 01:00:29 PM

PROMINENT PUTIN CRITIC MURDERED THREE HOURS AFTER CRITIQUING PUTIN. ALTERNATIVE MEDIA CLAIMS THEIR "WORLD SAVIOR" PUTIN SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A SUSPECT, BUT PUTIN'S HISTORY WOULD SUGGEST OTHERWISE, FOR PUTIN EVEN MURDERS PEOPLE ON HIS BIRTHDAY JUST TO SEND A MESSAGE.

Just nine hours after tweeting "Putin annexed Crimea and is now handing over Siberia to the Chinese," and three ours after calling for a "Russian Spring" march, prominent Vladimir Putin critic and former deputy prime minister (in March 1997 Nemtsov was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, with special responsibility for reform of the energy sector), Boris Nemtsov, was killed in the center of Moscow. As The BBC notes, the Russian opposition politician and former deputy PM was shot to death on a Moscow street. Life News is reporting he was shot in the chest four times on a street very close to Red Square.

(Obviously this assassination could be a setup. However, we should research Putin's bloody history, after all, should we think that Putin attained his position by behaving like a choir boy?

1. Putin became elected via the creation of his own 9/11 apartment house bombing, blaming the Chechnya terrorists. Apparently he didn't mind killing hundreds of innocent civilians in the process of creating the right atmosphere for his election in 2000. His cohorts in the USA waited a year before pulling off a similar slaughter. - http://www.darkpolitricks.com/fsb-apartment-bombing-false-flag-attack/

2. Historically, Putin does not hide those he assassinates but makes it easy to connect the dots so others will keep their mouths shut as in the murder of Russian journalists who spoke out against him:

"There is a lot of evidence that the series of Russian apartment bombings which occurred in September 1999, killing 293 people and injuring 651 and which brought Vladimir Putin to power, were actually committed by Russian State security services mainly the FSB. This evidence comes from a number of sources including an eye witness who saw subsequently arrested FSB agents planting bags of explosives at one apartment block in Ryazan, the explosive expert who defused the bomb, an apparent confession by an ex GRU officer and much investigation by brave independent journalists and reporters many of whom paid with their lives for speaking out. This included the famous investigative reporter Anna Politkovskaya who was executed on Putin’s birthday (seen as a message by many) and Alexander Litvinenko the ex Russian spy who wrote about the bombings, accused Putin for Anna’s execution and was executed by being poisoned in London two weeks later. The bombings which were the largest series of coordinated terrorist attacks in Russia’s history were used as a pretext for going to war with Chechnya again and brought the ex KGB agent Vladimir Putin to power as a popular but authoritarian strong man." - http://www.darkpolitricks.com/fsb-apartment-bombing-false-flag-attack/.

"That evening the bombers made a mistake. Using a public telephone one of them called a number in Moscow for instructions, saying it was impossible to leave the city undetected. An operator traced the call. The number called belonged to the FSB. Shortly afterwards the two men were arrested. Each produced documents showing that he worked for the FSB. Later an order came down from Moscow ordering the local police release them." - http://www.whale.to/b/putin.html

3. At one time after the fall of Russia, the Russian Mafia was the only viable business alternative (i.e. black market) and it was complete with protection rackets, the murdering of journalists who exposed their criminality and the assassination of politicians who opposed this group of which Putin was a prominent member. Putin has been a key player in the rise of the former KGB/Russian mafia as the ruling party in the Russian Federation. - http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/11/11/putin-obama-the-banksters-vs-all-of-humanity/

4. Here are just a few items that seem to have slipped down the memory hole:

• Assuming & exercising dictatorial powers throughout Russia, unprecedented since Stalin’s time.

• Appointing more KGB/FSB agents to government positions than at any previous time in Soviet or Russian Federation history. As reported by the BBC, studies show that 80 percent or more of Putin’s political appointees and administrators come from the security/intelligence agencies.

• Murdering Russian citizens through a number of FSB-run “Chechen terrorist attacks” in order to whip up public support for invading Chechnya.

• Invading, bombing, and occupying Chechnya, including destroying much of the country and wantonly killing many civilians.... Independent estimates of the number of civilian casualties in Chechnya range from 25,000 to 200,000.

• Restoring a bust of Lenin’s first Cheka chief, Felix Dzerzhinsky (who proclaimed, “We stand for organized terror”) to a place of honor at the notorious KGB Lubyanka headquarters.

• Murdering Russian journalists, whistleblowers, and dissidents who are brave enough to challenge his corrupt dictatorship. Famous investigative reporter Anna Politkovskaya is the most well-known example, but Reporters Without Borders and the Committee to Protect Journalists cite dozens of additional cases and have named Putin one of the world’s top “predators” of journalists.

• Expanding the “soft persecution” of Christian churches and organizations that are outside of the rigid state control exercised within the Russian Orthodox Church.

...organ­izations such as the Keston Institute of Oxford, England; International Christian Concern; documented that Russia’s Ministry of Justice has been using the pretext of “looking for religious extremism” to carry out illegal inspections, harassment, and suppression of Baptist, Roman Catholic, Pentecostal, Adventist, Latter Day Saints, Jehovah’s Witnesses.... While Putin was hailed by pro-life forces in the West for signing a law restricting advertising for abortion, Russia maintains the highest abortion rate (37.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44) of any country reported in United Nations data. The official number of abortions in Russia hovers around one million annually, but pro-life critics say the actual number may be several times that. - http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/19162-putin-defender-of-christian-faith-and-morality)

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/News3.html
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O February 28, 2015, 01:11:58 PM
PROMINENT PUTIN CRITIC MURDERED THREE HOURS AFTER CRITIQUING PUTIN. ALTERNATIVE MEDIA CLAIMS THEIR "WORLD SAVIOR" PUTIN SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A SUSPECT, BUT PUTIN'S HISTORY WOULD SUGGEST OTHERWISE, FOR PUTIN EVEN MURDERS PEOPLE ON HIS BIRTHDAY JUST TO SEND A MESSAGE.
----------------------------------------------------
Don't worry folks Putty Putin has taken over the investigation and his crack team of investigators who 'investigated' the Chechen FF has it all under control.   ;)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: stockholmimmune February 28, 2015, 03:06:39 PM
It's probably a setup.  This doesn't benefit Putin at all.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 28, 2015, 03:15:05 PM
 I agree, the MSM is attempting to put the smoking gun in Putins hand.
 No I'm not a Putin flag wiggler, but he has done right for his people, thats the key to my philosophy.
 After Afghanist they were the USSR went down the tubes. Russia was on its way crawling out of the hole, at minumum Putin has shown his people a better life.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue February 28, 2015, 03:21:31 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/boris-nemtsov-im-afraid-putin-will-kill-me-politician-said-weeks-before-being-shot-dead-10077000.html
Boris Nemtsov: 'I'm afraid Putin will kill me,' politician said weeks before being shot dead

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/49/4b/e0/494be0f20cbf4b0fd346a73244968775.jpg)

I agree, the MSM is attempting to put the smoking gun in Putins hand.
 No I'm not a Putin flag wiggler, but he has done right for his people, thats the key to my philosophy.
 After Afghanist they were the USSR went down the tubes. Russia was on its way crawling out of the hole, at minumum Putin has shown his people a better life.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 28, 2015, 04:01:18 PM
It's probably a setup.  This doesn't benefit Putin at all.

Exactly.

Cui Bono
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 28, 2015, 04:03:15 PM
Question : Was Nemtsov some kind of CIA Asset ?

I'm looking at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfFhnqw0sE8

Its MH-17 was Putin
Moscow owns the Rebels
Etc ....

It looks like Ukrainian / American propaganda, and Boris Nemtsov is involved.

Horrible, Disgusting Video by Boris Nemtsov.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 28, 2015, 04:03:51 PM
Gorbachev:

"Certain forces will try to use the killing to their own advantage.  They are thinking how to get rid of Putin."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/boris-nemtsov-im-afraid-putin-will-kill-me-politician-said-weeks-before-being-shot-dead-10077000.html
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 28, 2015, 04:04:55 PM
Paul Craig Roberts – The CIA May Have Just Assassinated Boris Nemtsov In Moscow To Blame Putin
27 February 2015
, by Eric King (King World News)
http://kingworldnews.com/paul-craig-roberts-cia-may-just-assassinated-boris-nemtsov-moscow-blame-putin/

Dr Paul Craig Roberts
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid February 28, 2015, 04:06:23 PM
A TON of excellent posts,
ALL form HERE onwards
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=254874.msg1505713#msg1505713
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 28, 2015, 05:14:50 PM
    There have been no details, no cams, 00000  ZIP.
This is a ploy to convince the masses Putin did it, thats my opinion. I go along with you guys it would be insanity for Putin to gleefully wack out a political opponent. Those who buy into the Putin ordered theory are being led by the nose.
  Smoke & mirrors, watch how the MSM spins this, I'll bet a buck to a dime they attempt to lay blame on Putin.  It serves the elites goal if the masses fall for it... , our MSM is owned, controlled...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Dude447 February 28, 2015, 06:03:17 PM
I dont know if Putin was involved with this or not , but I do think the UK and maybe the USA press taking the moral high ground on it is more than ironic ,when our elected governments are happy to remove political leaders and there governments who dont happen to agree with them . As for Putin being a commie I dont think so ( The Russian Communist Party hate him ) I would call him a nationalist.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O February 28, 2015, 06:46:03 PM
As for Putin being a commie I dont think so ( The Russian Communist Party hate him ) I would call him a nationalist.

Although nobody holds a candle to the number of bonafide psychopaths running loose in USA.  I mean, from the President right down to our local yokal politicians, judges, cops....   and outside of the Putty Putin love fest on this forum Putin is a 100% bonafide globalist.

If the USA really disliked Russia and putty Putin so much, why do they, as of recently, buy rocket engines from him?  Why does the USA allow Putin and Rockefeller to cut oil drilling deals where Rockefeller employs the Russian army and navy to guard their 'joint' arctic projects.

I think Russia should write out a check to USA for getting their seaport back under Russian control while at the same time making Russia look like heroes in the process. ...and USA has F'd up Ukraine so badly many of the Ukrainians are begging for Russian annexation and Putin never had to do a thing to get something Russia has always wanted to get.  (SUPPORT for Russian annexation)

But it NOT jut about Russia now....

If Putty Putin was everything people on this board 'imagine' he is, the very FIRST thing he would do is tell the Rothschilds, who set up camp in his home town, to pound 'vodka'. Immediately start issuing the Ruble as an interest free currency and public utility, (i.e like USA / Canada is SUPPOSED to) then tell ALL the mutlinationals he cut mega deals with like Goldman Sachs, Monsanto, ExxonMobile / BP..... to SCRAM, and INSTEAD, invest interest free rubles in Russia's small and medium business and the countries infrastructure.   

Putin right now, could be the man everyone on this board thinks he is and Russia could be a Rothschild's 'central bank' free power house BUT, Putin ain't that guy.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Dude447 February 28, 2015, 07:18:02 PM
I dont see this thread as a Putin love fest at all far from it
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 28, 2015, 07:54:45 PM
I'm not wiggling a Putin banner, just saying:

Putin Orders War Alert, Tells Obama: “Stop Monsanto, Or ...
www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1778.htm
22 de jun de 2014 - An ominous memorandum from the Office of the President (OP) circulating in the Kremlin today states that President Putin ordered Russian ...
Russia Warns Obama: Monsanto - The Top Information Post
topinfopost.com/.../russia-warns-obama-monsanto
28 de mai de 2013 - The shocking minutes relating to President Putin's meeting this past ... and plant bio-genetic giants Syngenta and Monsanto in the face of a ...
OIL.
Your right, Exon bought the rights to drill.  drilling is done on a exploratory basis, an oil co. pays for the rights to areas and a % of the profit if they make a hit.
Exxon Wins Prized Access to Arctic With Russia Deal ...
www.nytimes.com/.../exxon-and-rosneft-partner-in-r...
30 de ago de 2011 - Exxon Mobil struck an agreement ( paid ) to explore for oil in a Russian sector of the Arctic Ocean that is opening for drilling in a deal that could grow to

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O February 28, 2015, 08:44:44 PM
I'm not wiggling a Putin banner, just saying:

Putin Orders War Alert, Tells Obama: “Stop Monsanto, Or ...
www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1778.htm
22 de jun de 2014 - An ominous memorandum from the Office of the President (OP) circulating in the Kremlin today states that President Putin ordered Russian ...
Russia Warns Obama: Monsanto - The Top Information Post
topinfopost.com/.../russia-warns-obama-monsanto
28 de mai de 2013 - The shocking minutes relating to President Putin's meeting this past ... and plant bio-genetic giants Syngenta and Monsanto in the face of a ...


On Monsanto / Russia.  Monsanto , like 'measles combusting babies', ' IT JUST HAPPENS'

You've got to just love the spin in this article...  'Monsanto's Next Victim: Russia'  (as if being 'Monsantoed' 'just happens'   ::) )
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/01/26/2730

This article originally appeared in The Moscow Times

'Monsanto currently operates in Russia through a network of local partners and distributors.'

Hit the pause button, and use just a little discernment here.  Don't you think it's rather dishonest and 'covert' of both Monsanto and the Russian government to be 'cloaking' Monsanto farm operations as 'LOCAL' farms (i.e. Farms)? 

I ended up stumbling upon Monsanto's own internal propaganda through Goldman Sachs white papers and according to Monsanto they and Russia are working out long range plans for major Russian agro development.

as this article confirms...

Goncalves declined to name them or give financial details of the firm's ongoing or future business in the country.  (Hey no kidding.  Imagine my surprise.)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones February 28, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
Ukraine, the,,, bread basket it wa called long ago.............

Monsanto currently operates in Russia through a network of local partners and distributors.
Goncalves declined to name them or give financial details of the firm's ongoing or future business in the country. How come they won't name them.
Last year the company said it would launch a corn seed plant in neighboring Ukraine, whose currency has also dived, with initial investments of about $140 million possibly rising to $300 million over several years.
Ukraine is the world's sixth largest grain grower this season, and Goncalves said the region remained a priority for Monsanto.

  It seems as if they have wormed their way in, the Ukraine would be gold for Monsanto. It doesn't sound as if Russia is big on Monsanto,I find it  interesting they refuse to give specifics.
  The elites want all of it, no rant, the oil deal is not uncommon, about every nation on this planet sells exploratory rights.. Didn't the Brit oil firm some years ago have a bad time off our coast.
  If a leader cares a twit about his people, I pay attention. Seems to me Putin has, not wiggling his flag just saying, that is my gut feeling about this guy..I'm not putting any pol up for sainthood.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O February 28, 2015, 09:20:31 PM
Ukraine, the,,, bread basket it wa called long ago.............

Monsanto currently operates in Russia through a network of local partners and distributors.
Goncalves declined to name them or give financial details of the firm's ongoing or future business in the country. How come they won't name them.
Last year the company said it would launch a corn seed plant in neighboring Ukraine, whose currency has also dived, with initial investments of about $140 million possibly rising to $300 million over several years.
Ukraine is the world's sixth largest grain grower this season, and Goncalves said the region remained a priority for Monsanto.

  It seems as if they have wormed their way in, the Ukraine would be gold for Monsanto. It doesn't sound as if Russia is big on Monsanto,I find it  interesting they refuse to give specifics.
  The elites want all of it, no rant, the oil deal is not uncommon, about every nation on this planet sells exploratory rights.. Didn't the Brit oil firm some years ago have a bad time off our coast.
  If a leader cares a twit about his people, I pay attention. Seems to me Putin has, not wiggling his flag just saying, that is my gut feeling about this guy..I'm not putting any pol up for sainthood.
^^^^^^
Don't worry Chris, NATO never stood a snowballs chance in Al Gores armpit to take the Ukraine.  The Russians and BRICS will be their savior and will restructure Agenda 21 BRICS loans and the joint Russia / Monsanto multinational operation will be underway.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O February 28, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
GORBY!!!!!
-----------------------------
Gorbachev: Killing Could Have Been A Provocation, Aimed At “Destabilizing The Situation In The Country, At Heightening Confrontation” With The West
http://investmentwatchblog.com/gorbachev-killing-could-have-been-a-provocation-aimed-at-destabilizing-the-situation-in-the-country-at-heightening-confrontation-with-the-west/#JQGzsG5bGQcfBf2F.99

by WashingtonsBlog
False Flag Terror?

Sniper attacks are commonly used as a form of false flag terror.

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev says the the killing is aimed at “destabilizing the situation in the country, at heightening confrontation” with the West.

Gorbachev says:

The assassination of Boris Nemtsov is an attempt to complicate the situation in the country, even to destabilize it by ratcheting up tensions between the government and the opposition.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid March 01, 2015, 11:19:46 AM
GORBY!!!!!
-----------------------------
Gorbachev: Killing Could Have Been A Provocation, Aimed At “Destabilizing The Situation In The Country, At Heightening Confrontation” With The West
http://investmentwatchblog.com/gorbachev-killing-could-have-been-a-provocation-aimed-at-destabilizing-the-situation-in-the-country-at-heightening-confrontation-with-the-west/#JQGzsG5bGQcfBf2F.99

by WashingtonsBlog
False Flag Terror?

Sniper attacks are commonly used as a form of false flag terror.

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev says the the killing is aimed at “destabilizing the situation in the country, at heightening confrontation” with the West.

Gorbachev says:

The assassination of Boris Nemtsov is an attempt to complicate the situation in the country, even to destabilize it by ratcheting up tensions between the government and the opposition.

Yup.

Its an open secret that the USA wishes to overthrow Putin with a colour revolution.
Then they can go back to destroying Russia.

Just this once I agree with Gorby.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O March 01, 2015, 11:22:36 AM
Nemtsov Murder: Putty Putin Warned 3 Years Ago That This False Flag Might Happen (Video)
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/02/28/3962

The Saker is our regular contributor. This article also appeared at The Saker

Already in February 2012 (three years ago!) Putin was warning Russians about exactly the kind of false flag which we just saw happening with the murder of Nemtsov.  See for yourself:

[VIDEO}

Note: the Russian word "provocatsiia" is often translated as "provocation" which is not incorrect as long as you are aware that in Russian "provocation" can mean "false flag", as it does in this context.  Putin is clearly warning about a false flag "sacrifice".

As for the "liberal" or "democratic" "non-system" opposition it has already announced that it will convert the planned protest into a memorial rally.

We will keep you posted.
^^^^^^^^^
The Rothschild's won't allow their man Putty Putin go the way of Saddam (or like other US installed puppets)  by US intervention.  The Rothschild's put their foot down the US throat over intervening in their asian garden China.

When the green light is given, the world will come after the US once and for all.   The NWO goal is to throw the liberty baby out with the filthy bath water.   NWO order history books will write the United States experiment far worse than the Nazis. 

However, all the 'top level' evil in the US will be given 'safe havens' to live out the rest of their pathetic lives by the same NWO 'rewriters' of US history.

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver March 01, 2015, 11:52:14 AM
YA,, John is telling truth.

I've felt this since 9/11.

US has been doing false flags since the Boston tea party. The US of A constitution Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights are wonderfully crafted documents. Without implementation . Sad commentary on what could have been.
 
: Misperceptions: Nemstov Gorbachev USSR Ukraine Putin - Joaquin
: Letsbereal March 02, 2015, 12:00:29 AM
Misperceptions: Nemstov Gorbachev USSR Ukraine Putin - Joaquin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cccAJcsOIzg

March 1, 2015 108morris108
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 02, 2015, 05:27:04 PM
L.
        Hammer hits the nail on the head........
Amapor, the CNN face is saying Putin had the competions wacked out, I watch the CNN,( what was the guys name that said know your enemy)..
       She did a spread on the Ukrainian woman pilot being held and is on a hunger strike, the one accused of killing 2 Russian reporters. Amapor is laying blame on Putin for jailing her.
       No mention is made Gitmo & the hunger strikes, torture-etc. Iraq grid bomed, Afgh, etc..
WTF, truly.. 
       Enough is enough... Whoever wacked out this guy knew this would happen..
                           The Elites Choir MSM is on a mission.
       
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 02, 2015, 07:55:52 PM


"

Putin eerily predicted this possibility in a comment
made three years ago when he suggested that his
enemies were not above murdering a prominent
opposition figure so they could blame it on him.


Who Killed Boris Nemtsov?
A verdict has already been reached – without evidence

by Justin Raimondo, March 02, 2015

Practically no one in the West doubts the murder of once-rising reform politician Boris Nemtsov was the work of Vladimir Putin, and/or his allies in government. If Putin didn’t give the direct order, the pundits say, the Russian leader created the "atmosphere of hatred" directed at the Russian opposition, of which Nemtsov was a half-forgotten yet still active leader.

This obviates the need for evidence, while giving the accusers ample room to back off if and when facts to the contrary are uncovered – evidence which can then be easily discounted, because, after all, everyone knows a real investigation is impossible in Putin’s Russia. Thus freed of the facts, our new Cold Warriors can elaborate their conspiracy theories without fear of contradiction.

Funny how political murders in the US – the Kennedy brothers, Martin Luther King – are invariably the work of a “lone nut,” but in Russia it’s always the Putin government. When Dr. David Kelly, a prominent weapons expert and critic of the evidence Whitehall had publicized to justify the Iraq war, committed "suicide" just as he was about to reveal how the British government had doctored up its brief, there were suspicions but these were dismissed as a "conspiracy theory."

An entirely different standard is applied to Russia, and yet, aside from Anglo-American exceptionalism, perhaps there are some good reasons for this. Russia, after all, is a country where contract killings were once a staple of doing business: where gangsterism is widespread, and oligarchs, gorging on the riches of "privatized" companies, are in deadly competition for spoils in a system where government, and not the market, rules.

Boris Nemtsov, a reformer who rose to prominence in the chaos of post-Soviet Russia, made a lot of enemies along the way. That he met his end on a bridge a stone’s throw from the Kremlin, murdered in cold blood by a hit man, shocked the country and the world only because everyone thought the days when Russia resembled the Wild West were over. Vladimir Putin, we all thought, had ushered in an era of stability if not justice. Yet even Putin’s enemies, with some alarm, are now throwing doubt on the West’s conventional wisdom.

"
Nemtsov’s many enemies include the oligarchs he allied himself with,
and then later turned on, who were no doubt eager to exact their revenge.


Putin is no angel, but if you want to see devils just look at his probable successors – no, not the Putinists, none of whom have the stature to measure up to the original, but the outright fascists and ultra-nationalists who will take full advantage of Washington’s open hostility. Add to this the fact that Russia, while nowhere near the power it once was, yet retains its nuclear arsenal, and you have all the makings of a global calamity in progress.

CONTINUE ARTICLE~~~>http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/03/01/who-killed-boris-nemtsov/
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 02, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
   Hi Holly......Great digs,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 02, 2015, 08:56:38 PM
^ ^ ^
Thank you CJ …  :D

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok March 03, 2015, 07:54:25 AM
now we are having mr. Petrov as a president  ;D
: Daily Mail: Claims that Putin has been 'Neutralised' by a Stealthy Coup
: Sasha March 15, 2015, 09:58:25 PM
Vladimir Putin has been 'neutralised' by a stealthy coup as rumours about his health and well-being continue to flourish
March 14, 2015

Vladimir Putin is 'alive' but 'neutralised' as shadowy security chiefs stage a stealthy coup in Moscow, it was claimed last night.

Former FSB chief Nikolai Patrushev was behind the plot, claimed chairman of the pro-Kremlin national Islamic Committee, Geydar Dzhemal.

There have been no confirmed sightings of Putin for nine days, while in the febrile atmosphere engulfing Moscow a convoy of large trucks parked outside the Kremlin fueled rumours of a flit by the president.

In fact, the lorries close to St Basil's Cathedral were more likely connected to a nationalist celebration of the first anniversary of the return of Crimea to Russia - seen by Putin's supporters as his ultimate masterstroke.

Despite this, bloggers likened it to Ukrainian leader Viktor Yanukovych's treasure-grab as he fled into exile just over a year ago in Kiev.

'I think that Putin is neutralised at the moment, but of course, he is alive,' said Dzhemal, seen as a Kremlin loyalist.

'He is under the control of the power-wielding agencies, who have, in my opinion, organised a coup d'etat.'

continues:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995335/Vladimir-Putin-neutralised-stealthy-coup-rumours-health-continue-flourish.html

related:
Israel’s former ambassador to Russia: 'There are signs of a coup'
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.647001

Has Vladimir Putin been 'neutralised' by security chiefs staging 'secret coup'?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-been-neutralised-security-5338390

Vladimir Putin Ousted In Silent Coup, Reports Say, As Mystery Over Russian Strongman Continues
http://www.inquisitr.com/1925312/vladimir-putin-coup/
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O March 15, 2015, 10:09:34 PM
HE IS ALIVE!!!!
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9NxJXt5mxCo/Tq_xuSxQS-I/AAAAAAAAAzs/UpLfx4P9JvE/s1600/its_alive2.jpg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 16, 2015, 11:01:35 PM
The game continues, so does NATO  and they have pushed the line as well.
We peons are not the players.
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O March 16, 2015, 11:37:08 PM
PUTIN ON THE RITZ  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNXd3wX_USc
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Sasha March 17, 2015, 12:35:01 AM
Amazing propaganda.  Gotta wonder who was behind that.

A flash mob, with such entendricly heavy, statist 80's glib jingoism would have been all over the news here for weeks if the song was something like 'Ba'Rock Me Amadeus', 'Ba'Rock With You', or 'Obama Said Knock You Out'.

Anyway, I see your Ritz and raise you one...

(http://bigtengirl.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/putin_on_the_ritz.jpg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O March 17, 2015, 01:14:12 AM
Amazing propaganda.  Gotta wonder who was behind that.

A flash mob, with such entendricly heavy, statist 80's glib jingoism would have been all over the news here for weeks if the song was something like 'Ba'Rock Me Amadeus', 'Ba'Rock With You', or 'Obama Said Knock You Out'.

Anyway, I see your Ritz and raise you one...

(http://bigtengirl.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/putin_on_the_ritz.jpg)

The number was actually 'Putting' on the Ritz.  I just embellished it a little for my own little Putin coming out party on this forum.

Love the Putin on the Ritz cracker though.  However, it could be viewed as racist.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 17, 2015, 06:55:40 AM
^^^^

…. great vibe and sense of humor. I remember seeing this
a couple years ago … but today, the ritz fitz.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Sasha March 17, 2015, 12:08:25 PM
The number was actually 'Putting' on the Ritz.  I just embellished it a little for my own little Putin coming out party on this forum.

Love the Putin on the Ritz cracker though.  However, it could be viewed as racist.

Yes, definitely a case of cracker on cracker thought crime.  I should seek the redemptive counsel of a materialistic religious charlatan.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 17, 2015, 12:15:44 PM
^ ^ ^ ^

… I believe those crackers are good with some
black Russian caviar … oh, wait … is that racist?

 ;D

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/691035235_o.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/691035235_o.jpg.html)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O March 17, 2015, 12:19:54 PM
^^^^
Black caviar on a white cracker good one.  The control freaks are fainting from just the thought.   ;)
: Putin signs treaty integrating South Ossetia into Russia
: Sasha March 18, 2015, 10:30:56 PM
Putin signs treaty integrating South Ossetia into Russia
LYNN BERRY - 6 hours ago

MOSCOW (AP) — Russia tightened its control Wednesday over a second breakaway region of Georgia, with Russian President Vladimir Putin and the leader of South Ossetia signing a new treaty that calls for nearly full integration.

Georgian President Giorgi Margvelashvili denounced the signing as a "destructive" move against his nation's sovereignty and territorial integrity and said it would further exacerbate tensions. The United States, the European Union and NATO also strongly condemned the signing.

South Ossetia broke away from Georgia in the early 1990s as the Soviet Union collapsed. Russia effectively gained complete control over it and a second breakaway Georgian region, Abkhazia, after a brief war against Georgia in 2008.

A similar treaty was signed last year with Abkhazia. Both regions depend on subsidies from Russia. While Abkhazia is a lush sliver of land along the Black Sea coast, South Ossetia sticks like a thumb into northern Georgia.

Under the agreement signed Wednesday in the Kremlin, South Ossetia's military and economy are to be incorporated into Russia's. The treaty also promises to make it easier for South Ossetians to get Russian citizenship and to raise salaries for civil servants and state pensions.

U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Washington doesn't recognize the legitimacy of the agreement.

continues:
http://news.yahoo.com/putin-signs-treaty-integrating-south-ossetia-russia-134209512.html

related:
Putin says Russia regained 'historic roots' in Crimea
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/international/europe/2015/03/putin_says_russia_regained_historic_roots_in_crimea

Massive surprise drills launched in Arctic on Putin’s orders (VIDEO)
http://rt.com/news/241021-miliary-drills-unplanned-readiness/

How Putin can win global economic war against Russia
http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/17-03-2015/130048-putin_can_win_global_war-0/
: Putin proposes currency union with Belarus, Kazakhstan
: Sasha March 20, 2015, 11:34:59 AM
Putin proposes currency union with Belarus, Kazakhstan
March 20, 2015

It’s time to think about the prospects of creating a currency union between Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, President Vladimir Putin has said.

“We think the time has come to talk about the possibility to form a currency union in the future,” Putin said Friday at a meeting with his Kazakh and Belarusian counterparts Nursultan Nazarbaev and Aleksandr Lukashenko in Astana.

It’s easier to protect the common financial market when working shoulder to shoulder, Putin added.

continues:
http://rt.com/business/242553-russia-belarus-kazakhstan-currency/

related:
Russia and China: The Dawning of a New Monetary System?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-and-china-the-dawning-of-a-new-monetary-system/5423637

BRICS establish $100bn bank and currency pool to cut out Western dominance
http://rt.com/business/173008-brics-bank-currency-pool/
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: CaptObvious1234 March 20, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
To make it short and sweet... Putin is a spokesperson of Russias elite that controls Russia. He is a charismatic actor. Things are run this way in all countries. Democracy is a myth.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 20, 2015, 12:48:08 PM


I see very little evidence that Putin is PURELY NWO … though
he, no doubt, has to keep the business/indistrial doors open
until an alternative system can be built … so his people
do not starve.

Russian oligarch's arrest a warning from Putin, says hedge fund boss
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/sep/21/oligarch-arrest-warning-from-putin-says-bill-browder

Confrontation Between Rothschild and Vladimir Putin
http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/03/11/confrontation-between-rothschild-and-vladimir-putin/

GOOGLE SEARCH: PUTIN versus oligarchs
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=putin+arrests+oligarths&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gws_rd=ssl#q=putin+versus+oligarchs&rls=en&nfpr=1&start=20

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: CaptObvious1234 March 20, 2015, 01:00:38 PM
Jackson, what I was leading to is that Putin represents Russias national elite, that should be mostly independent because how much Putin loves too say truth.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue March 20, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putins-modern-love
(http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/putin-dog-290.jpeg)
September 12, 2013
Putin’s “Modern Love
By Andy Borowitz
...

Modern Love  by Vladimir V. Putin

They say love is like a polar bear. If you want to take it in your arms and hug it, first you must be sure that it is properly drugged. Or perhaps love is like a tiger. If it escapes from the zoo and starts charging at you, you must shoot it with a tranquilizer dart. Whether it is a polar bear or a tiger, though, one thing is true: you must make love drop to the ground, preferably with some kind of drug, or it will maul you to death and eat you.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok March 22, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Jackson, what I was leading to is that Putin represents Russias national elite, that should be mostly independent because how much Putin loves too say truth.

I would say that he represents Britain(&European) national elite :) ... or at least post-communistic nomenklatura (CPSU/KPSS)+KGB elites and strange guys like Abramovich, Usmanov (etc) who buys britain real estate, have shares in Britain football clubs (etc) and keep money in britain offshores and banks.

Since 1917 Russian (in ethno/historical-cultural sense) elite no longer exist. might be forming. 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: CaptObvious1234 March 22, 2015, 01:44:41 PM
I would say that he represents Britain(&European) national elite :) ... or at least post-communistic nomenklatura (CPSU/KPSS)+KGB elites and strange guys like Abramovich, Usmanov (etc) who buys britain real estate, have shares in Britain football clubs (etc) and keep money in britain offshores and banks.

Since 1917 Russian (in ethno/historical-cultural sense) elite no longer exist. might be forming.

 USA, Canada, Australia, Britain has the same owners. EU is a group of small counties which have the same owners as first group. Then there is asia, which is divided from the looks of it. If Russias goverment is hijacked, then China even if its independent will or already in the process of being hijacked to bring unofficial one world goverment and in time official.

One world government theoretically can be opposed by Chinas and Russias and its sattelite countries. But if those two countries aren't independent...





: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 22, 2015, 02:20:37 PM

SAINT or SATAN?

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Putin1.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/Putin1.jpg.html)

P U T I N
~~~o~~~

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Rasputin.gif) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/Rasputin.gif.html)

R A S P U T I N


"Putin is the president of Russia, and, so far, has served the interest of his people better
than any one in the west can be credited with. In comparison to the clowns and
turkeys in the West, he certainly qualifies to be called a world class leader – a statesman.
But, as a matter of fact, he is not a Saint nor an Evil – certainly not the Savior of Humanity.
 Above all, at this juncture, he is the token of hope to the humanity
suffering from the onslaught of the Empire. And, he is a tough cookie for The Empire to chew on."


INTERESTING ARTICLE
http://viewsandpreviews.com/what-is-up-with-putin/

: Top Russia Scholar Stephen Cohen: War between NATO and Russia a Real Possibility
: Sasha March 22, 2015, 04:26:55 PM
Top Russia Scholar Stephen Cohen: War between NATO and Russia a Real Possibility
Damir Marinovich - 8 hours ago

Professor Stephen Cohen is one of the most respected authorities on Russia among American and Western scholars. He is an American scholar of Russian studies at Princeton University and New York University. His academic work concentrates on modern Russian history and Russia's relationship with the United States.

The key points of Cohen's extraordinary speech:

•The possibility of premeditated war with Russia is real; this was never a possibility during Soviet times.

•This problem did not begin in November 2013 or in 2008, this problem began in 1990's when the Clinton administration adopted a "winner-takes-all" policy towards post-Soviet Russia.

•Next to NATO expansion, the US adopted a form of a negotiation policy called "selective cooperation" - Russia gives, the US takes.

•There is not a single example of any major concession or reciprocal agreement that the US offered Russia in return for what it has received since the 90s.

•This policy has been pursued by every president and every US Congress, from President Clinton to President Obama.

continues:
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/20/4761
: Re: Top Russia Scholar Stephen Cohen: War between NATO and Russia a Real Possibility
: CaptObvious1234 March 22, 2015, 04:39:12 PM
Top Russia Scholar Stephen Cohen: War between NATO and Russia a Real Possibility
Damir Marinovich - 8 hours ago

Professor Stephen Cohen is one of the most respected authorities on Russia among American and Western scholars. He is an American scholar of Russian studies at Princeton University and New York University. His academic work concentrates on modern Russian history and Russia's relationship with the United States.

The key points of Cohen's extraordinary speech:

•The possibility of premeditated war with Russia is real; this was never a possibility during Soviet times.

•This problem did not begin in November 2013 or in 2008, this problem began in 1990's when the Clinton administration adopted a "winner-takes-all" policy towards post-Soviet Russia.

•Next to NATO expansion, the US adopted a form of a negotiation policy called "selective cooperation" - Russia gives, the US takes.

•There is not a single example of any major concession or reciprocal agreement that the US offered Russia in return for what it has received since the 90s.

•This policy has been pursued by every president and every US Congress, from President Clinton to President Obama.

continues:
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/20/4761


Nukes and other wepons of m.d. doesn't allow conventional war to happen in full scale. Its a dillema for warmongers. There was always this race between "sword" destructive force and "armors" protecfive capabilities. Nowdays "swords" can destroy most of the planets population in few hours. How to you defend yourself against that?

Even NWO needs green flurishing earth for themselves to enjoy, thats why I doubt that they will let it to be poisoned by radiation. But everything is possible.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 22, 2015, 04:54:39 PM


… and there is war for profit (for both sides), population
control and ritual sacrifice … as well as for terror and/or
political power/gain.

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Dude447 March 22, 2015, 06:22:39 PM
Putin is more Saint than Satan imho . Russia is not fighting wars on a global stage .And all this BS about Iran nukeing the world is just the Iraq war stage whatever . And before anyone starts huffing and puffing I am not a ravining pinky commie
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 23, 2015, 12:10:48 PM
Putin is more Saint than Satan imho . Russia is not fighting wars on a global stage .And all this BS about Iran nukeing the world is just the Iraq war stage whatever . And before anyone starts huffing and puffing I am not a ravining pinky commie
               Bumped. If ya stand back and weigh in the invasions, genocide, and body count, which nation is the heavy..
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid March 23, 2015, 12:11:57 PM
               Bumped. If ya stand back and weigh in the invasions, genocide, and body count, which nation is the heavy..

Yup.
 ;D
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok March 23, 2015, 01:47:42 PM
USA, Canada, Australia, Britain has the same owners. EU is a group of small counties which have the same owners as first group. Then there is asia, which is divided from the looks of it. If Russias goverment is hijacked, then China even if its independent will or already in the process of being hijacked to bring unofficial one world goverment and in time official.

One world government theoretically can be opposed by Chinas and Russias and its sattelite countries. But if those two countries aren't independent...

Canada,Australia belong to Britain
USA belongs to usa
old EU contries belong to France+Germany
new EU countries, China belong to Britain+EU (with some influence of the usa, up to 1/3 of the [country_name] 'shares')
Russia belongs to Britain+EU (with insignificant influence of the usa)
no 'same owners' and 'nwo' exist in my view of the world.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: CaptObvious1234 March 23, 2015, 01:57:15 PM
Canada,Australia belong to Britain
USA belongs to usa
old EU contries belong to France+Germany
new EU countries, China belong to Britain+EU (with some influence of the usa, up to 1/3 of the [country_name] 'shares')
Russia belongs to Britain+EU (with insignificant influence of the usa)
no 'same owners' and 'nwo' exist in my view of the world.

English speaking governments should easily find common goal - subdue former and present communists - Russia and China. Non english strong governments from EU are weak compared to english elite, so they are doing the same thing as english union of governments.

But its all speculations and honestly who gives a **** what those governments do. Because REAL involvement in government egoistic and criminal affairs will be ruined social life or death if you are enough persistent. Almost nobody will take that risk...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok March 23, 2015, 02:09:32 PM
English speaking governments should easily find common goal - subdue former and present communists - Russia and China. Non english strong governments from EU are weak compared to english elite, so they are doing the same thing as english union of governments.

But its all speculations and honestly who gives a **** what those governments do. Because REAL involvement in government egoistic and criminal affairs will be ruined social life or death if you are enough persistent. Almost nobody will take that risk...

bush's nwo speeches was about a sort of common goal. usa accepted uk fullton speech proposals to share the world. but it is smth like keep your enemy closer. ussr and jugoslavia was dismantled as a result.
eu is not in its best shape but has some potential especially if united with britain.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue March 23, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
The Cutest Pictures Of Vladimir Putin With Animals (http://www.barnorama.com/the-cutest-pictures-of-vladimir-putin-with-animals/)
(http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content/galleries/01/putin/06.jpg)
: Re: Top Russia Scholar Stephen Cohen: War between NATO and Russia a Real Possibility
: chris jones March 23, 2015, 09:47:56 PM

Nukes and other wepons of m.d. doesn't allow conventional war to happen in full scale. Its a dillema for warmongers. There was always this race between "sword" destructive force and "armors" protecfive capabilities. Nowdays "swords" can destroy most of the planets population in few hours. How to you defend yourself against that?

Even NWO needs green flurishing earth for themselves to enjoy, thats why I doubt that they will let it to be poisoned by radiation. But everything is possible.
                I'm convinced the elites would never eradicate their greenery, humans reduction-- they would. In fact arent they! 
: Re: Top Russia Scholar Stephen Cohen: War between NATO and Russia a Real Possibility
: CaptObvious1234 March 24, 2015, 12:34:32 PM
                I'm convinced the elites would never eradicate their greenery, humans reduction-- they would. In fact arent they!

There is a law of karma(Google Vedas). Same as bible rule "what you saw, you shall reap". For example, you are very hardworking person and that grants you an abiliy to be born in heavens to temporary enjoy there for extreme hardwork, because while on earth you were so much in to the work and progress, that you left a huge fortune after you death, that was consumed by people. Alternatively you can be born like had Justin Bieber who would be very rich, but with much better vocal skills of course. Lol.

A ruler that orchestrates mass murder for profit,  propaganding  lust, intoxication(drugs, alcohol) are the most miserable persons on face of the earth as the weight of karmic debt that they carry will put them in hell, which has constant pain of thousands time higher then we can experience here. Illuminated who spread pain an misery on global scale are true masochists as bible and all other saint scriptures state that even if they won't get their ass kicked in this life, afterlife will unimaginably painful.

In the end almost nobody is brave enough to put his life on the line and oppose governments tyranny. We can only watch and speculate in peaceful times, which is pointless for the most part and is just a waste of time.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 24, 2015, 05:40:50 PM
Hi Cap.
  "Your last few lines:In the end almost nobody is brave enough to put his life on the line and oppose governments tyranny. We can only watch and speculate in peaceful times, which is pointless for the most part and is just a waste of time".
 An era of Peace hasn't been around for some time. Korea, the cold war, Vietnam, the war on drugs, and so on.. The people will wake up when their lifestyles are hit on. I came home on leave from Nam to see more demos and violence caused by lack of gasoline and the price hikes than the war.  It gave me a heads up on what  I consider to be the nature of mankind, in general that is.
 I have a serious hangup about innocents being slaughtered. That said, I wonder what the greater percent of our fellow citizens justification of the invasion of Iraq based on the WMD fairytale and the 1/2 million slaughtered mostly innocents. Contray to CNN now pumps us up with the slobs statue being taken down , we did not invade this nation to get Saddam as they would like to  have us believe.  It definitely offends my sensitivity, in fact my very soul.
                  A nation without honor will not prevail.
 
 
: Putin Security Council Slams Obama Attempts At "New World Order"
: Sasha March 25, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
Putin Security Council Slams Obama Attempts At "New World Order"
Tyler Durden - 03/25/2015

Moscow — which may or may not have to nuke Denmark — says the US has adopted a national security strategy that is decidedly anti-Russian. Although attempts to prove how “isolated” Putin truly is on the geopolitical stage haven’t fared very well of late (what with Russian bombers refueling at former U.S. air bases and Putin plotting Eurasian currency unions) and although Washington’s experience with China’s AIIB membership drive seems to indicate it may be the US that is in fact isolated, The Kremlin doesn’t think The White House is likely to give up on its attempts to ostracize Russia any time soon.

From a Russian Security Council statement entitled "About The US National Security Strategy":

In the long term, the United States, in cooperation with its allies will continue the policy of political and economic isolation of Russia, including limiting its ability to export energy and the displacement of all markets for military products, while making it difficult for the production of high-tech products in Russia.

Putin's security council then proceeds to deliver a remarkably accurate description of Washington’s foreign policy aims including the desire to show off NATO military capabilities (on full display along the Russian border currently), installing puppet governments and propping them up with financial and military support (which is precisely what’s going on now in Ukraine as the US is set to provide military assistance and also financial assistance via a Ukrainian bond issue back by the full faith and credit of the US government), and preserving US hegemony by taking unilateral action across the globe at Washington’s behest (something the US does all the time):

The Strategy emphasizes the US desire to proceed with the formation of a new global economic order. A special place in this order should take a Trans-Pacific Partnership and transatlantic trade and investment partnership that will enable the US central position in the free trade zones, covering two-thirds of the world economy.

The armed forces are considered as the basis of US national security and military superiority is considered a major factor in the American world leadership. While maintaining the continuity of the plants to use military force unilaterally and anywhere in the world, as well as to maintain a military presence abroad...


continues:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-25/putin-security-council-slams-obama-attempts-new-world-order
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc March 25, 2015, 07:55:06 PM
^^^^^^

  It's a good thing we have Putin around to slam obama.  Death to the NWO.

  Now obama's significant other is starting to look like Putin.

(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HR.213322656626&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Sasha March 25, 2015, 09:59:16 PM
I'd be happy if the NWO had to retreat to their DUMBs because they've been run off of the surface by their former minions who've decided a free life in the light beats the hell out of a rich life serving the dark.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 25, 2015, 10:28:33 PM
English speaking governments should easily find common goal - subdue former and present communists - Russia and China. Non english strong governments from EU are weak compared to english elite, so they are doing the same thing as english union of governments.

But its all speculations and honestly who gives a **** what those governments do. Because REAL involvement in government egoistic and criminal affairs will be ruined social life or death if you are enough persistent. Almost nobody will take that risk...
                Bumped, especialy so the political wonders on the suk straw.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 27, 2015, 08:51:32 AM
I'd be happy if the NWO had to retreat to their DUMBs because they've been run off of the surface by their former minions who've decided a free life in the light beats the hell out of a rich life serving the dark.
              Hi Sasha, that would be an event and 1/2+, I wish it would be a choice for the sold outs..If the ship goes down the rats will be the first off. The problem is if the crew detects any pol , insiders public figure straying from their plan, finding their soul, they will be erased one way or another. Their minions of suklings are blood oathed, feet first.   The list of would be whistle blowers, be they insiders or civilian status with information have been eradicated in the numbers. The Omerta.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Sasha March 27, 2015, 11:30:41 AM
              Hi Sasha, that would be an event and 1/2+, I wish it would be a choice for the sold outs..If the ship goes down the rats will be the first off. The problem is if the crew detects any pol , insiders public figure straying from their plan, finding their soul, they will be erased one way or another. Their minions of suklings are blood oathed, feet first.   The list of would be whistle blowers, be they insiders or civilian status with information have been eradicated in the numbers. The Omerta.

And yet rebellion against that silence in their own conscience is what drives some of them to brave the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and blow their whistles like the trumpets of Jericho.  So many of them joined and swore truthful oaths in the military and intel without illusions about the life and death struggles they will endure there. That reason compels them still to defy what is wrong with their oath givers and keep that truthful oath for themselves, with the Constitution, and with us, without illusion about the life and death struggles we will all endure here.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 30, 2015, 11:45:01 AM

"
Democrats were more concerned about climate change ...


Republicans see Obama as more imminent
threat than Putin

WASHINGTON | BY ROBERTA RAMPTON
Mon Mar 30, 2015

(Reuters) - A third of Republicans believe President Barack Obama poses an imminent threat to the United States, outranking concerns about Russian President Vladimir Putin and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

A Reuters/Ipsos online poll this month asked 2,809 Americans to rate how much of a threat a list of countries, organizations and individuals posed to the United States on a scale of 1 to 5, with one being no threat and 5 being an imminent threat.

The poll showed 34 percent of Republicans ranked Obama as an imminent threat, ahead of Putin (25 percent), who has been accused of aggression in the Ukraine, and Assad (23 percent). Western governments have alleged that Assad used chlorine gas and barrel bombs on his own citizens.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/30/us-usa-threats-poll-idUSKBN0MQ0AV20150330
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc March 30, 2015, 02:20:16 PM
^^^^^

  I guess liberties are more important to Republicans and shelling out money for global warming scams is more important to Democrats.

  Yes obama should be more feared for his stupidity and foolishness.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 30, 2015, 02:45:45 PM
Hi Larson.
      Obama is what he is, an actor performing on the greatest stage on earth. A mentored con artist, a professional.
The next president will be a shoe in, sad for me to say that but the deck is being stacked. i realize my cynasism may seem a tad over the edge but consider what would happen if a man of honor & integrity constitutionaly bound, who cares about this nation were to step up.
 The elites made it crystall clear they are not fond of competion, JFK,RFK,MLK.etc.
 The assassination of these men was a message to future pols, this is what happens when a president steps outa line.
 As we speak I'll bet a buck to a dime they have their guy preped.. If a true American becomes the leader they may not have to murder him, the US is not without problems and these muckers simply have to turn their back on him and allow the house of cards to get winded.

       
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid March 30, 2015, 02:52:56 PM
I think a lot of people besides republicans see american presidents as a greater threat than pretty much most other "Foreign" presidens. Ya got to be some wack job to present a biggger threat than any american president.

America simply spendz so much on war machine.....
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc March 30, 2015, 03:10:46 PM
Hi Larson.
      Obama is what he is, an actor performing on the greatest stage on earth. A mentored con artist, a professional.
The next president will be a shoe in, sad for me to say that but the deck is being stacked. i realize my cynasism may seem a tad over the edge but consider what would happen if a man of honor & integrity constitutionaly bound, who cares about this nation were to step up.
 The elites made it crystall clear they are not fond of competion, JFK,RFK,MLK.etc.
 The assassination of these men was a message to future pols, this is what happens when a president steps outa line.
 As we speak I'll bet a buck to a dime they have their guy preped.. If a true American becomes the leader they may not have to murder him, the US is not without problems and these muckers simply have to turn their back on him and allow the house of cards to get winded.

     
Hi Chris,
  America had it's chance to have a great president that has morals and the highest of standards but we blew it.  It will probably be a century before another Ron Paul comes along.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 30, 2015, 03:56:35 PM
Hi Chris,
  America had it's chance to have a great president that has morals and the highest of standards but we blew it.  It will probably be a century before another Ron Paul comes along.
               It was depressing to see Ron P.being ignored, shunned by the sh**bags during the debates as well as their darling M**Ken MSM. The memory of him leaning on his podium while listening to the meatballs roaring away, the expression on Rons face was, OMG what has this nation come to listening to these muppet rat bastards.   He was totaly exasperated.. Do you remember the 3 verses Perry had and couldn't remember/continue, Ron had to give him the answers...
  Truthers had their wake up call, I can but imagine how it has been for RP being in the middle of it swinging away, watching his country he loved taken over by suklings.
  I continue to have a feeling had he gone 3rd party with JV as he might have made it.. I don't get why he had to remain GOP.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones March 30, 2015, 06:33:40 PM
I think a lot of people besides republicans see american presidents as a greater threat than pretty much most other "Foreign" presidens. Ya got to be some wack job to present a biggger threat than any american president.

America simply spendz so much on war machine.....
             Hi E..  18 trillion,     how many millions is that?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly March 30, 2015, 10:08:53 PM
^^^^

… trillion … a huge number … a thousand billion.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Outer Haven April 07, 2015, 01:14:36 AM
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putins-modern-love
(http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/putin-dog-290.jpeg)
September 12, 2013
Putin’s “Modern Love
By Andy Borowitz
...

Modern Love  by Vladimir V. Putin

They say love is like a polar bear. If you want to take it in your arms and hug it, first you must be sure that it is properly drugged. Or perhaps love is like a tiger. If it escapes from the zoo and starts charging at you, you must shoot it with a tranquilizer dart. Whether it is a polar bear or a tiger, though, one thing is true: you must make love drop to the ground, preferably with some kind of drug, or it will maul you to death and eat you.
...
Go, go, Putin, Russia's greatest love machine!

;D
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy May 13, 2015, 03:42:38 PM
Vladimir Putin’s Next Takeover Target Is Oil Giant's $34 Billion Cash Pile  :D

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-11/putin-s-34-billion-siberian-hoard-hunted-by-cash-starved-allieshttp://
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid May 13, 2015, 07:34:00 PM
Vladimir Putin’s Next Takeover Target Is Oil Giant's $34 Billion Cash Pile  :D

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-11/putin-s-34-billion-siberian-hoard-hunted-by-cash-starved-allieshttp://

Breaks my heart to think a Rothschild RottenChild agent might get mugged.
LOL
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue May 17, 2015, 02:37:59 PM
You see what trouble were in when stunts like this are NOT done by Americans ...  Where is Teddy Roosevelt ?

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111113893/3034691-you-may-be-cool-but-youll-never-be-teddy-roosevelt-riding-a-moose-cool%5B1%5D.jpg)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/17/he-shoots-he-scores-vladmir-putin-celebrity-cult-achieves-new-goals
He shoots, he scores: Vladimir Putin celebrity cult achieves new goals

(http://i.guim.co.uk/media/w-620/h--/q-95/68167145b8ea1afea92f718d6410f764aa721bb8/0_253_4096_2457/1000.jpg)

The carefully weighted pass came in, the crowd cheered, and the puck was swept deftly into the goal by Vladimir Putin. It was a routine repeated again and again, as the 62-year-old Russian president took to the ice in Sochi to lead an “all-star” team featuring former NHL legends to an 18-6 victory, in which Putin himself scored eight of the goals...

Every player on the ice wore the number 70, to mark the 70th anniversary of victory in the second world war, which was celebrated with pomp on 9 May. The defence minister, Sergei Shoigu, oversaw a huge parade on Red Square, featuring 16,000 soldiers, tanks and aircraft. This weekend, Shoigu also took to the ice, playing on Putin’s team and scoring three goals of his own.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid May 17, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
In the west, politicians can only be relied upon to slip up.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 May 17, 2015, 09:37:17 PM
In the west, politicians can only be relied upon to slip up.
Spot on mate: and may I add that they always end up RICH! and this is compensation for F-ing up the world! go figure: this planet is spinning towards oblivion! and YES the West is making the spin go faster...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid May 19, 2015, 11:25:53 AM
Spot on mate: and may I add that they always end up RICH! and this is compensation for F-ing up the world! go figure: this planet is spinning towards oblivion! and YES the West is making the spin go faster...

More proof that there is no direct correlation between IQ and Earnings.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 May 20, 2015, 05:17:23 AM
More proof that there is no direct correlation between IQ and Earnings.
   ;D  8)  ;)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy May 28, 2015, 01:02:26 PM
Poll: 86% of Russians still support Putin
28.05.2015 | 12:43

The ruble and salaries may have plunged, but the number of Russian citizens who support Russian President Vladimir Putin remains at the record level of 86%, according to the results of a survey carried out by the Levada Center, an independent Russian polling and sociological research organization, according to an UNIAN correspondent.

http://www.unian.info/politics/1083020-poll-86-of-russians-still-support-putin.htmlhttp://
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid May 28, 2015, 01:42:03 PM
Poll: 86% of Russians still support Putin
28.05.2015 | 12:43

The ruble and salaries may have plunged, but the number of Russian citizens who support Russian President Vladimir Putin remains at the record level of 86%, according to the results of a survey carried out by the Levada Center, an independent Russian polling and sociological research organization, according to an UNIAN correspondent.

http://www.unian.info/politics/1083020-poll-86-of-russians-still-support-putin.htmlhttp://

To put that in perspective, to get an American President with that kind of approval rating, you would have to look at F. Roosevelt - who had a brief spike of 80% in January 23rd 1942. This would because on the 19th of January Japan invaded Burma . . . and Isolationist America although angered by Pearl Harbour was not that enthused to be a late entry into world war 2.

Truman had an approval rating of 90% when World War 2 finished early with the A-Bomb, but it immedaitely fell like a led zepplin afterwards - it really was a one off spike.

JFK managed an 80% approval rating for just 7 months, I presume you all know why . . . And of LBJ got a free ride for 5 minutes following the assassination in Dallas, then it just steadily went downward for the rest of his presidency.

Obama has HALF the presidential approval of Putin.

So next time they run that propaganda that Putin is some kind of tyrant that hijacked the Kremlin and is deeply unpopular LAUGH.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie June 01, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
To put that in perspective, to get an American President with that kind of approval rating, you would have to look at F. Roosevelt - who had a brief spike of 80% in January 23rd 1942. This would because on the 19th of January Japan invaded Burma . . . and Isolationist America although angered by Pearl Harbour was not that enthused to be a late entry into world war 2.

Truman had an approval rating of 90% when World War 2 finished early with the A-Bomb, but it immedaitely fell like a led zepplin afterwards - it really was a one off spike.

JFK managed an 80% approval rating for just 7 months, I presume you all know why . . . And of LBJ got a free ride for 5 minutes following the assassination in Dallas, then it just steadily went downward for the rest of his presidency.

Obama has HALF the presidential approval of Putin.

So next time they run that propaganda that Putin is some kind of tyrant that hijacked the Kremlin and is deeply unpopular LAUGH.

What was Hitler's approval rating I wonder....in 1939 or so?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 01, 2015, 08:41:58 PM
What was Hitler's approval rating I wonder....in 1939 or so?

Not that good, but its a lesson in democracy. See after the Riechstag Fire, in a wave of popularity, bit like 911, they had an election and the Nazis only got 44% of the vote - but enough to get Hilter into real power. To be fair, Bush spiked a higher rating after 911.

Its one of the forgotten lessons, that Hilter actually came to power through the ballot box. Of course, once in power within a couple of months all other parties and opposition ceased to exist.

Putin is genuinely popular, I would imagine that if American President set income tax to a flat rate of only 11% - and at the same time dragged all the Barons and Oligarchs into the White House and said "I run the country not you, and your gonna pay taxes just like everyone else".

Of course that is what Putin did, which is why the media is busy painting him as a deeply unpopular tyrant.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy June 02, 2015, 01:18:08 AM
Not that good, but its a lesson in democracy. See after the Riechstag Fire, in a wave of popularity, bit like 911, they had an election and the Nazis only got 44% of the vote - but enough to get Hilter into real power. To be fair, Bush spiked a higher rating after 911.

Its one of the forgotten lessons, that Hilter actually came to power through the ballot box. Of course, once in power within a couple of months all other parties and opposition ceased to exist.

Putin is genuinely popular, I would imagine that if American President set income tax to a flat rate of only 11% - and at the same time dragged all the Barons and Oligarchs into the White House and said "I run the country not you, and your gonna pay taxes just like everyone else".

Of course that is what Putin did, which is why the media is busy painting him as a deeply unpopular tyrant.

Bingo, mate.  :)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 June 02, 2015, 06:50:21 PM
Tic-Tock socialism is creeping across the globe---and it started in the WEST: in about 1913!!!

I'll give Putin the thought that he is trying to do the right thing for his Nation---but: The New World Nazis always have a way of derailing change for the good...

I give Obama a '0' for doing NOTHING for my nation!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 03, 2015, 06:00:35 AM
The Silent Coup: Putin vs. the Oligarchs
The putsch
http://nationalvanguard.org/2012/05/the-silent-coup-putin-vs-the-oligarchs/

It all started with NATO’s criminal war of unprovoked aggression against the sovereign state of Yugoslavia. The war was extremely unpopular in Russia, where the Serbs are viewed as Russia’s “little brothers” and fellow Orthodox Slavs. While he was in flight to the US to meet with American leaders, Primakov was told by Al Gore about the decision to bomb Yugoslavia. In mid-flight, Primakov ordered the plane to turn around and return to Moscow. Because Russia depended on loans and other financial aid from the West, Yeltsin’s government was not willing to risk confronting the United States and did nothing for the Serbs. Beginning to flounder, Yeltsin replaced Primakov with Sergei Stepashin. I happened to be in Moscow when the bombing started, and I remember seeing angry crowds as far as the eye could see protesting against the war. Upon learning that I was an American, every Russian I met wanted to express his opposition to the war and wanted me to try to explain why the United States government was acting in such a manner.

The American administration either did not know it at the time, or simply was too arrogant to care, but its actions had a huge impact on the future of Russia and its relations with the West. For many Russians, the bombing of Yugoslavia was simply too much: It was the ultimate sign that America could not be trusted and would attack Russia if it could. On June 11, 1999, the Russian military rejected the Kremlin’s capitulation and ordered Russian troops to seize the airport in Pristina, Kosovo. Yeltsin had lost control over his military. This was the beginning of a silent coup. With little choice, Yeltsin’s administration agreed to require the Foreign Ministry to coordinate its activities with the military and security apparatus. Yeltsin was left in office, but his time was running out. On August 10, Yeltsin fired Prime Minister Sergei Sephashin and replaced him with Vladimir Putin, an unknown former KGB officer and former head of the FSB.

Nobody knew what to think of Putin. He had very little political experience; he had only served as deputy mayor of St. Petersburg for a short time. He mouthed the right words about ‘democracy’ and ‘open markets.’ His actions as Prime Minister would soon increase his popularity. The Chechen war was reignited when Chechen rebels attacked several towns in the neighboring Russian Republic of Dagastan in August of 1999. Putin responded to the crisis with a firm hand. Without hesitation, he sent in the Russian military to crush the rebels. A series of apartment bombings in Moscow gave Putin even more room to move. Putin said that he would wipe out the Chechens “in the outhouse.” It is important to point out the widespread hostility many Russians have for Chechens and other ethnic groups from the Caucasian region. Soon, Putin’s popularity ratings went sky-high. After years of Yeltsin’s weak leadership, it seemed that a strong leader had finally arrived.

NOTE The Apartment Bombing is Russia's 911 False Flag
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 03, 2015, 06:06:37 AM
The Silent Coup: Putin vs. the Oligarchs
The hunters become the hunted
http://nationalvanguard.org/2012/05/the-silent-coup-putin-vs-the-oligarchs/

For Berezovsky and the others, it seemed that Putin was the man they could count on for a “continuity of power.” However, Putin wasn’t their man at all. He represented different interests, and the security agencies were in the process of reclaiming power.

Berezovsky went about the task of preparing for the 2000 Presidential election. He organized and funded a new political party to back Putin called Unity. Even though this party had no real ideology, it won enough seats to make Unity the second largest bloc in the Duma, all on account of Putin’s popularity. (Other than the Communist Party, most political parties in Russia are not grass-roots organizations. They are simply parties set up to support a politician and people simply vote for the party that is headed by the politician they most agree with. When Russians think of the LPDR, they think of Zhirinovsky. When they think of Fatherland, they think of Lushkov. When they think of Unity, they think of President Putin.) At this time, Yeltsin’s primary concern was shielding himself and his family from future prosecution. The Duma’s earlier attempt to impeach him gave him an idea of what these forces might do if they ever came to power. He was even accused of “genocide against the Russian people.” In short, he believed his enemies would make him pay for his real or alleged crimes against Russia. Most likely, as part of the silent coup, a deal was struck to protect Yeltsin and his family from prosecution in exchange for Putin becoming Prime Minister and later President. When he became President, Putin’s very first act was to sign a decree granting Yeltsin immunity from prosecution. Yeltsin was saving his skin. After nine years of impoverishment, privatization scandals, the rise of the oligarchs, the use of the military against opposition forces, and two wars in Chechnya, Yeltsin had plenty to fear. And it seemed at first that Putin was indeed “one of the boys,” willing to play along with the Jewish money men.

On New Year’s eve 1999, President Yeltsin gave a surprise address to the nation. He announced that he was stepping down as President and naming Vladimir Putin acting President. In March of 2000, Putin easily won the election, but nobody knew exactly what to expect. They would soon find out.

Putin began to move with lighting speed. He announced that he would create one set of rules for everyone, including the oligarchs. He stated that he would initiate “vertical control” over the country, and began to move on the regional governors, who enjoyed a great deal of autonomy under Yeltsin. To do this, he launched a plan to divide the country into federal districts, with each district controlled by a supergovernor appointed by Putin. The existing 89 regional chiefs now had to report to these Putin appointees. Five of the seven men appointed by Putin were either former KGB or military officers — all people loyal to Putin. He followed this up with a campaign to oust certain governors on corruption charges. Then, Putin began to move against the same people who had supported him and helped him get elected: the oligarchs. Putin’s words about gaining control over “bandit capitalism” were for real, but he couldn’t go after all of the oligarchs at once. First on his hit list was Gusinsky.

Putin and his surrogates launched a relentless campaign against Gusinsky and his empire. Within one year, they were victorious. Gusinksy’s media conglomerate was called Media-Most. Media-Most was guaranteed a loan by Gazprom, a large state-controlled energy company, for $211 million in 1996. When Gusinsky was unable to pay back the loan to the creditor, Gazprom did, which boosted Gazprom’s stake in Media-Most. Gazprom received 25 per cent. plus one share of Gusinsky’s media empire. After Putin came to power, Gazprom soon became a hostile partner. Gazprom was no longer willing to take Gusinsky’s equity, and demanded cash. Putin’s team knew that Gusinsky wouldn’t be able to come up with the needed amount, which was part of their whole plan. Gusinsky began to openly criticize Putin, calling him an opponent of free speech. On May 11, 2000, Gusinsky was arrested as a suspect in a fraud case in a privatization deal involving a St. Petersburg television company, Russian Video. Gusinsky, one of Russia’s wealthiest men, a person who thought he was untouchable, was thrown into Moscow’s most notorious prison, Butyrskaya, an overcrowded eighteenth century jail.

While on a trip to Spain, Putin was asked about the scandal, but he replied that it was all a matter of business disputes. He replied that Gusinsky had taken out $1.3 billion in loans for his Media-Most and had “returned almost nothing.” He also added that “several days ago Gusinsky did not pay back another $200 million loan, and Gazprom again paid the outstanding debt. I wonder why Gazprom should spend money on this.”34 The Kremlin’s plan was brutally simple: to force Gusinsky to repay all of the loans at once, bankrupting him. Although the Western media did make claims that this was a matter of free speech in Russia being crushed, and President Clinton did speak with Putin on behalf of Gusinsky, the writing was already on the wall. Gusinsky’s time was up. The feared backlash had started. Once again, the cry of “anti-Semitism” was voiced, but this wouldn’t help Gusinsky. If the other oligarchs had realized that Putin wasn’t only after Gusinsky, they might have been able to come to his defense and save their corrupt system. They didn’t, and it would only be a matter of time before their turn came.

Gusinsky was formally charged with fraud and released on June 16. The pressure continued. Mikhail Lesin, the recently appointed Press Minister, was given the task of destroying the oligarch. Secret negotiations were held. In total, Gusinsky owed $473 million in dept to Gazprom. An ultimatum was presented to Gusinsky: If he sold his media empire to Gazprom, he would go free. Quite simple, really. They even offered the oligarch $300 million in cash, proving that this wasn’t really about money, but about control over Gusinsky’s media. Threats continued against Gusinsky. Raids continued against his businesses. On July 7, investigators hauled off boxes of documents from NTV. According to Gusinsky, “They said it more than once. There were constant threats to put me in jail cells with tubercular prisoners and people with AIDS…. I was indeed a hostage. When you have a gun to your head, you have two options: To meet the conditions of the bandits or take a bullet in your head.”35 It was wheeling and dealing, Russian style.

On July 18, Gusinsky signed a written statement saying that he was being forced against his will to sell his business, in exchange for a promise to drop the criminal charges and permission to go abroad. According to Gusinsky, it was Lesin who was forcing him to do it. On July 20, he signed a secret agreement to sell his empire for $300 million. On July 27, the prosecutors announced that they were dropping all charges against Gusinsky. He immediately boarded his private jet and flew to Spain, never to return to Russia. While in Spain, Gusinsky changed his mind about the deal, which resulted in prosecutors issuing arrest warrants through Interpol. Gusinsky was indeed detained in Spain and twice jailed, but the Spanish high court threw out the case. In April, Gazprom held a board meeting and moved to seize control of NTV. A new general director was appointed. On April 14, NTV was taken over by armed men, and the new director assumed control. Sevyodna, Gusinsky’s first newspaper, was closed. Gusinsky should have taken the $300 million while he had the chance, but he foolishly thought that he could fight Putin. Now it was all over for him.

Gusinsky was only the first. Other oligarchs who thought that they could escape were sadly mistaken. One of these was Boris Berezovsky, the man who did more than anyone else to get Putin elected. Berezovsky was under the mistaken impression that Putin owed him something for his support and that he was therefore ‘immune.’ When asked about any charges being brought against him, he replied: “To be honest, I am not expecting this, neither tomorrow nor in the near future.”36 However, as Putin had said during his meeting with the oligarchs, the rules of the game were now different. Berezovsky was next.

In August, Putin said that the oligarchs and their television channels had been destroying the state, as well as the army and navy. Kremlin aide Alexander Voloshin told Berezovsky “Listen, either you give up ORT within two weeks or you will follow Gusinsky.”

“This is not the way to talk to me,” Berezovsky replied. “You are forgetting something. I am not Gusinsky.”37Berezovsky arranged a meeting to speak directly with President Putin and get to the bottom of things. Apparently, he felt that he was powerful enough to convince the President to change his mind. Putin told Berezovsky that he had something to tell him. He opened a file, the same file prepared by Primakov when he started to go after Berezovsky. Putin began to read a document, which detailed the corruption of ORT. Berezovsky was in shock. Putin was completely serious, and he meant business. Realizing that it was useless to fight and that he could very well end up in prison, Berezovsky sold his interest in ORT and left the country. However, his troubles were not over. He would not be safe in London, and Berezovsky could not resist the temptation to continue to meddle in Russian politics. He was an addict, and power and politics were his drugs of choice. It is simply not in Berezovsky’s nature to keep quiet and be content with his money. This was his downfall.

While in London, Berezovsky set up yet another new political party in Russia, Liberal Russia, in 2002. Liberal Russia was meant to be an opposition party, and was bankrolled by Berezovsky. The fact that Berezovsky is such an unpopular figure in Russia gave this party little chance of success from the start. Berezovsky also continued to make accusations against the Kremlin, accusing the FSB of being behind a series of apartment blasts in 1999. He even accused the FSB of being behind the 2002 siege of a Chechen-seized theater in Moscow that left 129 hostages dead. Putin’s government responded by releasing information indicating that, in fact, Berezovsky has very close ties to the Chechen separatists — and has funded them.

The Kremlin had had enough of Berezovsky’s mischief. In March of 2003, Berezovsky was arrested in London on an extradition warrant charging him with fraud while head of the Logovaz car company.

Though he has so far managed to remain in his safe haven in Britain, it is very likely that Berezovsky could end up paying for some of his early crimes against the Russian people. In an effort to gain immunity, Berezovsky announced in early April 2003 that he was planning to run in the legislative elections in Russia: As a member of the Russian State Duma, he would enjoy parliamentary immunity. His effort fizzled out, and he has lost most of his support. Berezovsky is like a gambler who cannot quit while he is ahead. If he continues to insist on trying to influence Russian politics, it is very likely that he could end up in prison for the rest of his life, or even could lose his life. Those who know what he has done are now in a good position to fight him — and they are never going to forgive.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok June 03, 2015, 07:21:49 AM
Poll: 86% of Russians still support Putin
28.05.2015 | 12:43

The ruble and salaries may have plunged, but the number of Russian citizens who support Russian President Vladimir Putin remains at the record level of 86%, according to the results of a survey carried out by the Levada Center, an independent Russian polling and sociological research organization, according to an UNIAN correspondent.

http://www.unian.info/politics/1083020-poll-86-of-russians-still-support-putin.htmlhttp://

I would say that it is not correct. Have always wondered how they cook such numbers.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 03, 2015, 08:57:56 AM
I would say that it is not correct. Have always wondered how they cook such numbers.Hunter ValleyHunter Valley

I would say that they don't want another Boris Yeltsin.  ;D

Also aproval and votes are not the same as "like", "admire", "adore", or "love".

In 1945 Churchill - having just won the war and having a massive approval rating, promplty lost the election. Churchill did not just loose the election, it was a massacre landslide victory against Churchill. The opposition had ideas that there should be a new society after the war, Churchill wanted to return to the old society and cursed "socialism". So despite his approval ratings, he lost the election by a spectaculor margin. Well, at least by British standards of elections.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy June 03, 2015, 09:06:56 AM
I would say that they don't want another Boris Yeltsin.  ;D

Also aproval and votes are not the same as "like", "admire", "adore", or "love".

In 1945 Churchill - having just won the war and having a massive approval rating, promplty lost the election. Churchill did not just loose the election, it was a massacre landslide victory against Churchill. The opposition had ideas that there should be a new society after the war, Churchill wanted to return to the old society and cursed "socialism". So despite his approval ratings, he lost the election by a spectaculor margin. Well, at least by British standards of elections.

Lot of British died in WW2. Like old-new prime minister Churchill will remind live British on WW2 ?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 03, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Churchlll was a conservative, he wanted to go back to how things was before the war.

People had dreams of a better brighter modern Britian at the end of the War, after all that suffering they wanted welfare, health care, housing and Churchill did not.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy June 03, 2015, 10:49:26 AM
Churchlll was a conservative, he wanted to go back to how things was before the war.

People had dreams of a better brighter modern Britian at the end of the War, after all that suffering they wanted welfare, health care, housing and Churchill did not.

I am sure that David Irving have other explanation for Churchill`s defeat on elections ( secret society "Focus").  ;)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 03, 2015, 12:43:28 PM
I am sure that David Irving have other explanation for Churchill`s defeat on elections ( secret society "Focus").  ;)

Two Views of History
http://www.threeworldwars.com/intro.htm

There are two fundamental ways to view history. We call one the catastrophic or accidental view of history. We call the other view the conspiratorial view of history.

Accidental History

In the catastrophic or accidental view of history we are led to believe that historical events, such as wars and revolutions were the direct result of some sudden or surprising event. While the catastrophic view is accurate for weather, volcanoes and earthquakes, it does not always provide a realistic view of humanity and events influenced by man.

Young, malleable American and other Western minds are sadly taught the Accidental view of history in the government school systems.  This view is reinforced throughout their lives by the controlled mass media.  As a result, when most discover the Conspiratorial View of History, the immediate reaction is shock, disbelief and a refusal to accept something other than they've been taught to believe.

Conspiratorial History

Conspiratorial history studies that part of history that is a product of man's planning. In conspiratorial history we are led to believe that events, such as wars and revolutions, are the result of planned events. While the conspiratorial view is not accurate for weather, volcanoes and earthquakes, it is a realistic and accurate view of the interrelationship of man and nations. Since the planning for most of these events was done in secret, we use the term conspiratorial history. That is; this history is the result of plans constructed in secret, which by definition is a conspiracy.

Interestingly enough, the Conspiratorial View of History is also the Biblical View of History.  Try Psalms 2 for starters.*

We believe that current world events are not simply circumstantial, but the result of an organized campaign by an elite group of unseen and widely unknown world leaders. Their goal is to exercise absolute dictatorial control over the world, to establish a New World Order.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok June 03, 2015, 02:44:47 PM
thing to be noted is that sociology is a tricky thing. who are you asking, what are you asking (approval of Putin v approval of Putin with regard to Crimea event сould be two different things. and the word(ing) 'approval, approval of Putin as a president' is too abstract, you can simply imagine one good thing that you think putin is responsible for and say 'yes' or just say it because Putin is presented as unresponsible for bad things so why not to say 'yes'), who is paying you (as I remember it is an old trick to exaggerate some numbers and show them to the public, and the public will take them into account from the point that 'so many people could not be wrong so I should take a similar position').

with regard to Putins 80% I remember one interview with gleb pavlovsky (kremlin ex-political advisor/technologist) who answered to ukranian interviewer that it is simply a bullshit. I cannot but agree.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 03, 2015, 03:12:50 PM
thing to be noted is that sociology is a tricky thing. who are you asking, what are you asking (approval of Putin v approval of Putin with regard to Crimea event сould be two different things. and the word(ing) 'approval, approval of Putin as a president' is too abstract, you can simply imagine one good thing that you think putin is responsible for and say 'yes' or just say it because Putin is presented as unresponsible for bad things so why not to say 'yes'), who is paying you (as I remember it is an old trick to exaggerate some numbers and show them to the public, and the public will take them into account from the point that 'so many people could not be wrong so I should take a similar position').

with regard to Putins 80% I remember one interview with gleb pavlovsky (kremlin ex-political advisor/technologist) who answered to ukranian interviewer that it is simply a bullshit. I cannot but agree.

Well our NATO politicians are in love with Oligarchs and Robber Barons, and Income Tax is at least double the rate in Russia. The lowest rate is about 25% and middle class like Doctors pay around  50% income tax ( roughly )

Want to swap ?
Say Putin for Obama ?
 ;D  :D  :o  ::)
: Re: Vladimir Putin - Secret Money Behind Vladimir Putin's War Machine
: EvadingGrid June 03, 2015, 04:17:57 PM
The Secret Money Behind Vladimir Putin's War Machine
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-02/putin-s-secret-budget-hides-shift-toward-war-economy

 If Vladimir Putin’s ends remain mysterious, so do the means.

Putin is allocating unprecedented amounts of secret funds to accelerate Russia’s largest military buildup since the Cold War, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The part of the federal budget that is so-called black -- authorized but not itemized -- has doubled since 2010 to 21 percent and now totals 3.2 trillion rubles ($60 billion), the Gaidar Institute, an independent think tank in Moscow, estimates.

Stung by sanctions over Ukraine and oil’s plunge, Putin is turning to defense spending to revive a shrinking economy. The outlays on new tanks, missiles and uniforms highlight the growing militarization that is swelling the deficit and crowding out services such as health care. Thousands of army conscripts will be moved into commercial enterprises for the first time to aid in the rearmament effort.

“The government has two urgent tasks: strengthening security at all levels of society and promoting innovation to end the macroeconomic stagnation,” said Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies and an adviser to the Defense Ministry in Moscow. “The solution to both problems is to intensify the development of the military-industrial complex.”

READ MORE
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-02/putin-s-secret-budget-hides-shift-toward-war-economy
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok June 04, 2015, 02:30:30 AM
Well our NATO politicians are in love with Oligarchs and Robber Barons, and Income Tax is at least double the rate in Russia. The lowest rate is about 25% and middle class like Doctors pay around  50% income tax ( roughly )

Want to swap ?
Say Putin for Obama ?
 ;D  :D  :o  ::)
Yes, we can (swap).
1. dont know what to compare with NATO. but our military secret budget lines have surely created dozens of oligarchs.   
2. in Russia there are many somewhat hidden 'taxes'. 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 04, 2015, 04:40:13 AM
Yes, we can (swap).
1. dont know what to compare with NATO. but our military secret budget lines have surely created dozens of oligarchs.   
2. in Russia there are many somewhat hidden 'taxes'.

Sorry to tell you but we have even more hidden taxes.

Sales Tax called VAT is 17.5% on everything bought and  sold. .. .. ..
Petrol - Gas car go go juice is £1.20 a litre
Green Taxes on all energy Electric, Gas .. ...

I'm sure Russia will eventually catch up, but being behind is not allways bad !
Like being behind in Taxes !

Ok my examples are specific to Britian, but it is effectively the same across Europe. Our Govts are bigger and more powerful because they raise more Taxes.

America has lower Taxes, but hidden costs. You end up paying private companies insurance, and often the insurance costs a lot more. For example health insurance is about double the cost in america.

Western Govts have been running Monopolies and running at a Profit for a very long time. It is like the Mafia, but after many 100's years it has become 'respectable', but it is Mafia Family. Every biz pays protection money, every time anyone buys or sells it collects tax, everything it collects tax.

Don't get me wrong, I do not think Putin is an Angel. Its not that Putin is better, it is that in the West the Politicians are so bad its a joke.

They tell you in Russia that life in the West is "better", but is not better, just different.

For example, having a Dacha is impossible dream for anyone living in my country. You would have to be amazingly super rich to buy a Dacha. You have the world "dacha", we do not even have our own word for it.


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok June 04, 2015, 11:10:47 AM
vat 18%
petrol seems to be 4 times cheaper  if I count correctly. 0.39£ per litre
have not heard about green taxes though

and dont know how to compare insurance spendings. in Russia 13% is income tax (and dont know how comparable this wording would be). and 34% is payments to all sorts of funds (medicine and other work related insurance, pension funds) but it is paid by employer so technically such payments are not figured on your account.
 
some attention to be paid to the tariffs of natural monopolies resulting in the final consumer's spendings, the growth of housing and communal services rates,  economic costs emerged due to ineffective burocracy and corruption,  12-15% morgage intest rate, 12,5% central bank interest rate (and i guess commercial credit intrest rate are similar) which is definitely no good for the buisnesses or any final consumers  ...custom duties makes car costs 40-50% bigger than in the west...

different indeed, but overall western people seems to be better off.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid June 04, 2015, 11:41:53 AM
Yes different.

When I lived in Europe many of the young people though life was better in America.
When I lived in America many of the young people though life was better in Europe.

We have an old saying "Grass is always greener the other side of the fence"

It always depends on who you are, what job do you do, etc .. .. ..

If you want land, then Europe is a very bad place. America is better, and Russia has more land than any other country in the world. See, depends what you want. If you want pop music, Russia is a bad place to be, Europe is a little better, and America is best.

I say this because it depends on the person.

I live now in Europe because my wife needs healthcare, and America is at least twice as expensive.


The best maths for working out where the best places to live is called GINI, it measures wealth inequality, which is what matters to normal ordinary people.

See Map, America might be rich, but many ordinary Americans live in poverty, the best place are scandinavian countries, like Sweeden. Russia ain't that bad. In fact for wealth inequality, its slightly better than America by a small amount.

How rich a country is on paper, is not the same as how rich normal people feel.
GINI gives a good maths answer.

(http://geocurrents.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Gini_Coefficient_World_CIA_Report_2009.png)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue June 05, 2015, 01:49:33 PM
Soccer 2018 Russia .... was that why Lynch exposed the fifa corruption?
(http://media.newindianexpress.com/Brazil_russia_ap.jpg/2014/07/16/article2332189.ece/alternates/w620/Brazil_russia_ap.jpg)

(http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2014/06/10/the-west-should-boycott-putin-s-2018-world-cup/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/1402424372457.cached.jpg)

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118105/obama-clinton-cameron-and-more-world-leaders-soccer-balls
(http://www.newrepublic.com/sites/default/files/u186967/ball_putin.jpg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue June 06, 2015, 06:13:05 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/dont-afraid-russia-putin-tells-west-093154948.html
Don't be afraid of Russia, Putin tells West

By Anna SMOLCHENKO
10 hours ago
...
"I would like to say - there's no need to be afraid of Russia," Putin told Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera in an interview published Saturday, ruling out a major conflict between Russia and NATO member countries.

"The world has changed so much that people in their right mind cannot imagine such a large-scale military conflict today."

"We have other things to do
, I can assure you," the Russian president said.

"Only a sick person -- and even then only in his sleep -- can imagine that Russia would suddenly attack NATO."
,...

(http://i.guim.co.uk/media/w-620/h--/q-95/92428cdd4ccc7089a7cb4b5d920f9561380a169b/0_45_3500_2100/1000.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1ENL2GCMAE5YoQ.jpg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue June 07, 2015, 03:55:48 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/04/putin-pope-francis-meet/28503815/
Russia's Putin to meet with Pope Francis at the Vatican
Rosie Scammell, Religion News Service 7:06 p.m. EDT June 4, 2015

VATICAN CITY — Russian President Vladimir Putin will meet Pope Francis on Wednesday, with pressure on the pontiff to speak up about the Kremlin's role in the Ukraine conflict.

The visit, which was confirmed Thursday by the Holy See's chief spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, will be Putin's second meeting with Francis. The two leaders also met in the Vatican in November 2013.

But the ground between Moscow and Rome has shifted significantly in the interim, with Russia annexing the Crimea Peninsula last year and being accused of fomenting the ongoing war in eastern Ukraine.

The pope has previously expressed concern over the conflict; in his Easter message he wished for Ukraine to "rediscover peace and hope thanks to the commitment of all interested parties."

But Francis' decision not to specifically mention Russia has led to disappointment among Ukrainian Catholics — and speculation over whether the pope will raise the issue with Putin in their private meeting.

The two leaders may also revisit their earlier discussion of the Syrian war, a crisis the pope has highlighted repeatedly and one in which the Kremlin plays an important role.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones June 07, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
 I can't say much about the pope, I can say organized religions playing politics, keeping secret vaults, owning banks, wearing costumes, is beyond my comprehension of the Christs message as I interpret it.
 Corporate religions  irritate me. 

 ISIS will be a topic, what won't be mentioned is how they began, and what sector of governments and their controllers funded them and provided arms. The Ukraine will be discussed, what won't be mentioned is the Crimea was voted on by the people by an astounding 87% of the citizens.


 
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue June 20, 2015, 07:29:08 PM
http://rt.com/business/268546-russia-greece-gas-deal/
Putin: €2bn Russia-Greece gas deal will help Athens pay its debt
 Published time: June 20, 2015 12:09

(http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/41/90/20/00/russia-greece-gas-deal.si.jpg)
Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras (L) speaks with Russian President Vladimir Putin during a session of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum 2015 (SPIEF 2015) in St. Petersburg, Russia, June 19, 2015. (Reuters/Mikhail Klimentyev/RIA Novosti/Kremlin)

A deal to jointly build an extension of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline across Greece will help Athens to settle its multibillion euro debt to international creditors, President Vladimir Putin said at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones June 21, 2015, 11:32:40 AM
Big oil won't cotton to this.
   The US $ oil standard is and allways has been manipulated. The Saudis and USA among others have attempted to break the Russian economy which depended on 80% of its revenue.
   They in doing so will eventualy create competition , it is safe to say they will not cotton to Putin coming to the aid of of greece.
    Beside the point, Russia desires stability just as we do, (the people that is) not the superpowers.
This is but a cloud in the storm of the horizon, there will be much more fearmongering, black ops both finacialy and otherwise.  I anticipate severe reactions from the IMF players.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly July 26, 2015, 01:02:27 PM


… Bbwaaa-haa-HAA-hhahaha!

Gotta see this STUPID TV Propaganda piece
that they run in KIEV and other Western
UKE markets.


1 Minute Propaganda Clip Reveals Intellectual
Level of Ukraine's "Democracy" (Video)

Free advice to Obama, Cameron, Merkel, et al:
You are backing the mental midgets in this affair.
Note giggling of viewers in the background


~~> SEE! http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/1-minute-propaganda-clip-reveals-intellectual-level-ukraines-democracy-video-q/ri8944
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones July 26, 2015, 05:31:01 PM
  Looks like CNN at its finest.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy July 27, 2015, 05:17:14 PM
Putin: Europe must become more emancipated from the United States.  :)

http://www.srf.ch/news/international/europa-muss-unabhaengiger-von-den-usa-werdenhttp://

P.S. That is solution a problem in Europe and USA.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok July 28, 2015, 08:42:00 PM
https://youtu.be/5XCCGwbrYr0 (ignore speech, nothing funny, but video more or less watchable)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid July 28, 2015, 09:27:24 PM
Thank you regmeok
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: donnay July 28, 2015, 11:06:27 PM
I think this goes here... 

Putin on the Ritz.
(http://i.imgur.com/9vw5l2e.gif)

 8) :D
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc July 29, 2015, 01:28:57 AM
^^^^^^^

  Nice donnay.

  Like him or not,  we would have been in full scale WW3 without him blocking some of the agenda of Oby and his puppet handlers.  Case in point--Putin has vowed to defend Syria---this limits what Oby can do. 

 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: donnay July 29, 2015, 08:43:25 AM
^^^^^^^

  Nice donnay.

  Like him or not,  we would have been in full scale WW3 without him blocking some of the agenda of Oby and his puppet handlers.  Case in point--Putin has vowed to defend Syria---this limits what Oby can do.

Agreed.  However, they are all just fighting to see who sits at the head of the NWO table.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy July 29, 2015, 09:12:16 AM
Agreed.  However, they are all just fighting to see who sits at the head of the NWO table.

No. Vladimir Putin is a traitor of NWO. That is not my words !
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: larsonstdoc July 29, 2015, 09:28:57 AM
No. Vladimir Putin is a traitor of NWO. That is not my words !

  I think you are right Al.  If Putin was not there, the NWO would have already taken the countries of Ukraine and Syria and we would all be in WW3 now.  They are upset that they have spent billions on these projects and still haven't advanced their agenda.  They are way behind schedule. 

  BUT WE HAVE THIS FROM ZEROHEDGE....EXCERPT BELOW
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-28/end-draws-near-syrias-assad-putins-patience-wears-thin

The End Draws Near For Syria's Assad As Putin's Patience "Wears Thin"

Maybe not yet, but that could change quickly, especially if Assad were to lose the support of his most important ally, Vladimir Putin.

As we noted last month, the key outstanding question is this: what is the maximum pain level for Russia, which has the greatest vested interest in preserving the Assad regime?

We could have an answer to that very soon, as slumping commodities prices, falling demand from China (which was recently cited as the reason for "indefinite" delays to the Altai pipeline joint venture which would have delivered 30 bcm/y of Siberian gas to China), and economic sanctions from the West are squeezing Moscow and may ultimately prompt Putin to "consider the acceptability of other candidates" for the Syrian Presidency. Here’s WSJ with more:

And with Russia’s economy battered by a plunge in oil prices and Western sanctions, the government may be considering both the strategic and economic benefits of changing its stance on Mr. Assad.

But Fyodor Lukyanov, chairman of a Kremlin foreign-policy advisory council, said Russian policy makers are likely considering possible alternatives to the Syrian president.

"They are looking at the acceptability of other candidates at this point," he said, adding that he had not heard any names.

If Moscow does provide an opening to broker a negotiated exit for Mr. Assad, it would be a dramatic turn in the conflict.

Mr. Assad’s other major international backer, Iran, shows no signs of wavering in its crucial military and financial support for the Syrian regime. But the long-sought nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers reached earlier this month has also opened up the possibility of broader political cooperation between Tehran and the West on other regional issues such as the war in Syria.

Hadi al-Bahra, a senior member of the Turkey-based opposition umbrella group the Syrian National Coalition, said his alliance discussed Mr. Assad’s political fate with Russian officials for the first time in a meeting last month led by Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov. Ahmed Ramadan, another senior coalition member, also attended that meeting in the Turkish capital Ankara.

“We have been speaking with the Russians from the very beginning and we have not heard one word of criticism of Assad," Mr. Ramadan said. "But now, the Russians are discussing the alternatives with us."



 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid July 29, 2015, 09:35:06 AM
  I think you are right Al.  If Putin was not there, the NWO would have already taken the countries of Ukraine and Syria and we would all be in WW3 now.  They are upset that they have spent billions on these projects and still haven't advanced their agenda.  They are way behind schedule.

I think you are right, Putin has blocked too many of their moves and has policies such as population growth and old fashioned family values to be New World Order.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: donnay July 29, 2015, 09:50:05 AM
No. Vladimir Putin is a traitor of NWO. That is not my words !

Yeah but I still think there is a lot of infighting which is stalling the agenda.

Putin would probably like to rule the world.  He is no saint.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy July 29, 2015, 10:04:27 AM
Yeah but I still think there is a lot of infighting which is stalling the agenda.

Putin would probably like to rule the world.  He is no saint.

No and No. Vladimir Putin would not like to rule the world and he is not saint.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: chris jones July 29, 2015, 08:14:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wkoPlKKMQc

  Your right, Putin doesn't want to rule the world nor to see the elites run it.




: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok July 31, 2015, 06:21:52 AM
(1) If Putin was not there, the (2) NWO would have already taken the countries of (3) Ukraine and (4) Syria and (5)we would all be in WW3 now. (2)They are upset that they have spent billions on these projects and still haven't advanced their agenda.  They are way behind schedule. 
 Maybe not yet, but that could change quickly, especially if Assad were to lose the support of his most (4) important ally, Vladimir Putin.

1. too much attention to Mr Putin. anyway RusFed's authorities are guided only by profit of oil-gas quasi-private companies. (ukraine would be the best example) and Mr Putin is more like arbitr, not decision maker per se
2. some of the guys know that i am sceptical about many things taken for granted in this forum. NWO is one of them. 
my position (to be honest, for all the conflicts in the world  ) is that USA is fighting with EU (plus England with hands in two baskets).  so that why u cannot discern a progress of 'nwo'.
3. imho RusFed tottaly failed in Ukraine.
4. Best syrian friend is Iran and its secret services... cannot say the same for Russia
5. doubtful concept. costly. the age of fighting for severe control of territories is over long time ago. local conflicts, hybrid wars are to be ongoing and that is how it will be further
 
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid July 31, 2015, 06:28:06 AM
I imagine the NWO as like the Mafia . .  .
it is made up of several competing crime families.

We have several factions, such as the American's Columbian faction.
Russia no doubt has its own NWO Mafia.
Ukraine seems to have 2 big NWO Mafia Crime Familes, and several smaller factions controlled by the bigger players.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy July 31, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
I imagine the NWO as like the Mafia . .  .
it is made up of several competing crime families.

We have several factions, such as the American's Columbian faction.
Russia no doubt has its own NWO Mafia.
Ukraine seems to have 2 big NWO Mafia Crime Familes, and several smaller factions controlled by the bigger players.

Buddy, I do not think so.

Putin was put under control NWO Mafia in Russia ( Oligarchs ) rest are NWO "fifth column" ( Alexey Navalny who is under control of US Embassy in Moscow). Zhirinovski is clown, Christian Orthodox Patriarch of Russia Kirill definitely is not serve "NWO Mafia". Russian Army is under control of Putin like whole ministres because he won elections. 

NWO have installed puppet government in Kiev ( "Porky", General Sivak, PM  Arseniy Yatsenyuk, oligarch Rinat Ahmetov...)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok August 01, 2015, 11:16:14 PM
(1)Putin was put under control NWO Mafia in Russia ( Oligarchs ) (2)rest are NWO "fifth column" ( Alexey Navalny who is under control of US Embassy in Moscow). (3)Zhirinovski is clown, (4)Christian Orthodox Patriarch of Russia Kirill definitely is not serve "NWO Mafia". (5) Russian Army is under control of Putin like whole ministres because he won elections. 

(6)NWO have installed puppet government in Kiev ("Porky", General Sivak, PM  Arseniy Yatsenyuk, oligarch Rinat Ahmetov...)


(ommiting nwo talks)
1. yep. by post-soviet nomenklatura ('family',eltsin clan) & oligarchs
2. nope. that is 'ohranitels' (pro-Putin hooray-patriots) / government propaganda myth. Navalny has connections with financial 'block' which, in turn, little bit more oriented to the west.
3. yep.
4. x. afaik Kirill aka Tabacco-Metropolitan served in KGB. one thing for sure: he serves ugly system.
5. hard to tell. Shoigu is an oldshool 'family' soldier.
6. Ahmetov - Donetsk clan, Porky - Dnepropetrovsk clan. both these rivalry clans are affiliated with EU+UK, while Yatsenyk (dunno what clan) is linked to US.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok August 01, 2015, 11:25:27 PM
Evading Grid, there is one saying

after translation it sounds not that great as there is a wordplay

the world is ruled not by a secret lodge [lozha], but by evident mess [lazha] :)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid August 21, 2015, 08:36:35 PM
The translation works, I can guess that it sounds better in actual Russian

ложа лажа ?

I think its the (illuminati) Google Translate -> интеллектуалы !

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: White Rose Sophie August 22, 2015, 02:55:41 PM
Agreed.  However, they are all just fighting to see who sits at the head of the NWO table.

THESIS vs ANTITHESIS = SYNTHESIS

Only now, the roles are reversed.  America is now "THE LEFT"  (ie Socialism/Communism) and Russia is the "RIGHT" (Capitalism, Conservatism, etc)

There may be a power struggle going on at the top of the 'pyramid', but the end result will be the same for those of us at the bottom.  (The Slave class)  World Government.

Do not be deceived.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jerryweaver August 24, 2015, 07:35:18 PM
Didn't really think Putin was falsely fagging..  Oh well. 

The Assassination of Russia - FSB false flag bombings of 1999

https://youtu.be/y9cRoXgawVA

In the fall of 1999, a wave of bloody apartment bombings swept through Russian cities, killing 293 people and causing widespread panic. Although blamed on the Chechen terrorists that the Russians were fighting in the Second Chechen War, FSB agents were caught planting the exact same type of bombs as in the other blasts later that month. The government claimed that the bomb was part of a security exercise and Vladimir Putin came to power as the next Russian President on the back of the terror wave later that year.

http://www.politicaljunkienewsmedia.com/history-of-the-false-flag--the-ultimate-deception.html

(http://cdn.historycommons.org/images/events/b207_ryazan_detonator_2050081722-22677.jpg)
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a092299ryazanbomb#a092299ryazanbomb

On the evening of September 22, 1999, several residents of an apartment block in Ryazan, a city about a hundred miles south of Moscow, observe three strangers at the entrance of their building. The two young men and a woman are carrying large sacks into the basement. The residents notice that the car’s plate has been partially covered with paper, although they can still see a Moscow license plate number underneath. They decide to call the local police. After several bombings of apartment buildings in Moscow earlier in the month (see September 9, 1999 and September 13, 1999), their vigilance is understandable. When the police arrive, around 9:00 p.m., they uncover what appears to be huge bomb: three sacks of sugar filled with a granular powder, connected to a detonator and a timing device set for 5:30 a.m. The bomb squad uses a gas testing device to confirm that it is explosive material: it appears to be hexagen, the military explosive that is believed to have been used to blow up two Moscow blocks. The residents are evacuated. Then the bomb carted away and turned over to the FSB. (In an apparent oversight, the FSB fails to collect the detonator, which is photographed by the local police.) The following morning, September 23, the government announces that a terrorist attack has been averted. They praise the vigilance of the local people and the Ryazan police. Police comb the city and find the suspects’ car. A telephone operator for long-distance calls reports that she overheard a suspicious conversation: the caller said there were too many police to leave town undetected and was told, “Split up and each of you make your own way out.” To the police’s astonishment, the number called belongs to the FSB. Later this day, the massive manhunt succeeds: the suspects are arrested. But the police are again stunned when the suspects present FSB credentials. On Moscow’s orders, they are quietly released. On September 24, the government reverses itself and now says the bomb was a dummy and the whole operation an exercise to test local vigilance. The official announcement is met with disbelief and anger. Ryazan residents, thousands of whom have had to spend the previous night outdoors, are outraged; local authorities protest that they were not informed. However, the suspicion of a government provocation is not widely expressed and press coverage fades after a few days. It is only several months later that an investigation by the independent weekly Novaya Gazeta re-ignites the controversy (see February 20, 2000 and Fall 1999). The government’s explanations will fail to convince skeptics (see March 23, 2000). The Ryazan incident later becomes the main reason for suspecting the government of having orchestrated previous bombings. The controversy is then widely reported in the international press. [BBC, 9/24/1999; MOSCOW TIMES, 9/24/1999; CNN, 9/24/1999; BALTIMORE SUN, 1/14/2000; LOS ANGELES TIMES, 1/15/2000; MOSCOW TIMES, 1/18/2000; INDEPENDENT, 1/27/2000; OBSERVER, 3/12/2000; NEWSWEEK, 4/3/2000; INSIGHT, 4/17/2000; NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE, 4/30/2002; LE MONDE (PARIS), 11/17/2002; SATTER, 2003; MOSCOW TIMES, 9/24/2004]
Entity Tags: Russian Federal Security Service, Novaya Gazeta
Timeline Tags: Alleged Use of False Flag Attacks, Complete 911 Timeline
February 20, 2000: Ryazan Bomb Was Real, Local Police Tell Independent NewspaperEdit event 
Yuri Tkachenko
Yuri Tkachenko [Source: Terror99.ru]
In its February 14-20, 2000, issue, the Russian newsweekly Novaya Gazeta reports that Ryazan police officers insist that the bomb they uncovered and defused was real. On September 22, 1999, a bomb was discovered in the city of Ryazan, about 100 miles south of Moscow. After the chief bomb suspects were discovered to be FSB agents, the government claimed the bomb was a dummy and the incident was a training exercise (see September 22-24, 1999). But the bomb-squad officer, Yuri Tkachenko, is adamant that it was a professionally-prepared, military-style bomb. He defends the accuracy of his sophisticated gas-testing device which identified the explosives as hexogen. The article provokes much comment in Russia but is ignored by the government. [SATTER, 2003, PP. 29]
Entity Tags: Novaya Gazeta, Yuri Tkachenko
Timeline Tags: Alleged Use of False Flag Attacks
March 23, 2000: Broadcast on Ryazan Incident Fails to End ControversyEdit event 
Alexander Zdanovich.
Alexander Zdanovich. [Source: Terror99.ru]
A team of FSB officials, led by Alexander Zdanovich, agrees to a televised meeting with angry and suspicious residents of Ryazan, hoping to put down rumors of a government provocation and shore up the credibility of the official account. In September 1999 a bomb was found in the basement of a building in Ryazan and the people arrested for planting the bomb were discovered to be FSB agents. The government then claimed the incident was merely a training exercise, but residents suspect the FSB wanted to bomb the building to create a fake terrorist incident (see September 22-24, 1999). Zdavonich apologizes for the inconvenience suffered by Ryazan inhabitants but then suggests the renewed interest in the event is a campaign ploy: “For months, there was no interest and there were no publications. The theme was activated on the eve of the presidential election with the most fantastic details in order to accuse the FSB of planning a real explosion with the death of people. This is actively used in the political struggle.” (The presidential election is only one week away.) A soldier named Alexei Pinyaev has claimed that he worked at a nearby base where hexogen was reportedly kept in sacks marked “sugar” (see Fall 1999). The commander of the base denies that there was any soldier named Pinyaev, but the Novaya Gazeta reporter who had found Pinyaev then shows pictures of him and plays a recording of his interview. The FSB will not let its three agents appear in public or allow journalists to interview them. The broadcast does not allow any discussion of a possible connection between the Ryazan incident and the apartment bombings in Moscow earlier that month (see September 9, 1999 and September 13, 1999). The FSB officials did not have good explanations for the fact that local authorities, including its own FSB office in Ryazan, were not informed of the supposed exercise, or for the lack of medical resources for the thousands of people forced to spend the night outdoors. According to David Satter, a long-time correspondent in Moscow for the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times who believes the Ryazan incident was a failed provocation, the broadcast only serves to increase the public’s misgivings. [SATTER, 2003, PP. 30, 261-264]
Entity Tags: Alexander Zdanovich, Russian Federal Security Service, Alexei Pinyaev
Timeline Tags: Alleged Use of False Flag Attacks
March 6, 2002: Russian Billionaire Berezovsky Accuses FSB, Putin of Terror PlotEdit event 
Boris Berezovsky.
Boris Berezovsky. [Source: BBC]
At a well-publicized press conference in London, where he now lives in self-imposed exile, Russian billionaire Boris Berezovsky accuses President Putin of involvement in an alleged FSB plot behing the 1999 apartment bombings (see September 22-24, 1999, September 9, 1999 and September 13, 1999). After an overview of many well-known facts about the bombings and the controversial Ryazan security exercise, as well as a documentary called “The Assassination of Russia”, Berezovsky introduces the testimony of Nikita Chekulin. According to Chekulin, an explosive expert who says he was recruited by the FSB, large quantities of hexogen were purchased through his research institute, the Russian Conversion Explosives Center (Rosconversvzryvtsenter), and shipped under false labels in 1999-2000 out of military bases to cover organizations linked to the FSB. Chekulin says the FSB suppressed a governmental investigation into the scheme. “I am sure the bombings were organized by the FSB,” Berezovsky declares. “The FSB thought that [Russian President Vladimir] Putin would not be able to come to power through lawful democratic means.” [BBC, 3/6/2002; GUARDIAN, 3/6/2002; WASHINGTON POST, 3/6/2002; KOMMERSANT (MOSCOW), 3/6/2002; MONITOR (JAMESTOWN FOUNDATION), 3/6/2002; SBS, 5/21/2003]
Entity Tags: Nikita Chekulin, Russian Federal Security Service, Boris Berezovsky, Vladimir Putin
Timeline Tags: Alleged Use of False Flag Attacks
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok August 29, 2015, 04:59:55 PM
  America is now "THE LEFT"  (ie Socialism/Communism) and Russia is the "RIGHT" (Capitalism, Conservatism, etc)
 

 why r u applying left,socialism,communism to the US? i think i will never get it.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy August 29, 2015, 05:18:40 PM
The translation works, I can guess that it sounds better in actual Russian

ложа лажа ?

I think its the (illuminati) Google Translate -> интеллектуалы !

лажа - lie, deception
ложа - lodge
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue August 30, 2015, 01:20:29 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3215995/Hilarious-pictures-Vladimir-Putin-revealing-workout-secrets-hits-gym-alongside-Prime-Minister-time-keeps-shirt-on.html
Putin launches a new arms race: Action man Vlad's latest photo stunt shows him and Russian PM Medvedev pumping iron in the gym (... but this time he keeps his shirt ON)
Putin and his prime minister  Dmitry Medvedev were busy working out in a gym in Bocharov Ruchei, Sochi
Vladimir Putin, 62, demonstrated his muscular arms but managed to keep his shirt on for his whole workout
The Russian President has previously been seen playing ice hockey and recently pledged to start yoga
By Tom Wyke for MailOnline

Published: 08:23 EST, 30 August 2015  | Updated: 10:10 EST, 30 August 2015
...
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: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok August 31, 2015, 09:02:07 AM
лажа - lie, deception
ложа - lodge

has never heard that лажа was used as synonym for lie/deception. i would even say that it doesnot have that meaning.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy August 31, 2015, 09:32:34 AM
has never heard that лажа was used as synonym for lie/deception. i would even say that it doesnot have that meaning.

Sorry, I meant on Serbian. :-[
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok August 31, 2015, 02:50:27 PM
i bet this photosession is anglosaxonian PR agency's/polittechnologists' job. Putin get rid of US's Ketchum  but some British guyz must have continued working with him...

Putin without a shirt (previous photosession with horses somewhere in the forest) was mentioned on John Steward's show for dozens of times. ...my suggestion is that western audience pays more attention to appearences etc... so when i see smth like that i conclude that it is made by not RusFed PR agencies...
: Re: Vladimir Putin - Putin Comes to WASHINGTON
: Jackson Holly September 27, 2015, 02:22:43 PM

… Monday the 28th the MAN is
scheduled to hit DC … and look
BHO in the eyes with his steely blues:


"
Last week, Putin said removing Assad would
create a situation such as that seen in Libya
where "all the state institutions deteriorate".


Putin calls US support for rebel forces
in Syria 'illegal' and says it just arms ISIS

By ROB VIRTUE
PUBLISHED: 13:02, Sun, Sep 27, 2015

RUSSIAN president Vladimir Putin has called United States' backing
of rebel forces in Syria "illegal" in a scathing shocking attack
on Barack Obama's policy in the Middle East.


By ROB VIRTUE
PUBLISHED: 13:02, Sun, Sep 27, 2015

The US has backed groups against Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad with weapons and training.

But Putin, who is supporting Assad in his fight against both the rebels and Islamic State, said today the backing is contrary to the United Nations charter.

And in a scathing attack on the US support he said many of the weapons have just ended up with ISIS.

In an interview with American media ahead of Putin's meeting with US president Obama tomorrow, the Russian leader said: "In my opinion, provision of military support to illegal structures runs counter to the principles of modern international law and the United Nations Charter."

  http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/608267/Putin-US-support-for-rebel-forces-Syria-illegal-ISIS
: Re: Vladimir Putin 'in New York'
: Jackson Holly September 29, 2015, 10:06:23 AM

… so what's the verdict?


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/CP_rRAzWwAUJI0z.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/CP_rRAzWwAUJI0z.png.html)

Obama has turned Putin into the world’s most powerful leader
http://nypost.com/2015/09/29/obama-has-turned-putin-into-the-worlds-most-powerful-leader/
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid September 29, 2015, 11:42:05 AM
Obama supports ISIS
Putin supports States Rights and International Law

Obama thinks its okay to fly over another country and drop bombs, without permission from the country or a UN mandate.

How would he like it if another country took that position and started bombing the good old USA ?


: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Pirate October 02, 2015, 01:09:58 PM
(http://media.cagle.com/62/2013/09/11/137294_600.jpg)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue October 21, 2015, 07:16:20 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3282371/President-Assad-holds-talks-Putin-Moscow-Russia-s-air-strikes-Syria-Canada-s-new-PM-announces-nation-withdraw-jets.html
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/21/17/article-3282371-2D9E4C6600000578-623_636x464.jpg)
To Russia with love:
Assad makes first foreign trip for four years to Moscow so he can personally thank Putin for military support
Syrian leader makes his first foreign visit since civil war broke out in 2011
Assad thanks main backer for helping to contain 'terrorism' in his country
Comes as new Canadian PM Justin Trudeau pulls out of U.S.-led air strikes
Told Obama he would remove Canada's six jets that were targeting ISIS
Full coverage of Vladimir Putin as he meets with Assad in Moscow
By Simon Tomlinson for MailOnline

Published: 02:36 EST, 21 October 2015  | Updated: 11:45 EST, 21 October 2015

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: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Pirate October 22, 2015, 01:14:51 PM
Putin's approval rating is now at 89.9%
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy October 22, 2015, 03:28:06 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3282371/President-Assad-holds-talks-Putin-Moscow-Russia-s-air-strikes-Syria-Canada-s-new-PM-announces-nation-withdraw-jets.html
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/21/17/article-3282371-2D9E4C6600000578-623_636x464.jpg)
To Russia with love:
Assad makes first foreign trip for four years to Moscow so he can personally thank Putin for military support
Syrian leader makes his first foreign visit since civil war broke out in 2011
Assad thanks main backer for helping to contain 'terrorism' in his country
Comes as new Canadian PM Justin Trudeau pulls out of U.S.-led air strikes
Told Obama he would remove Canada's six jets that were targeting ISIS
Full coverage of Vladimir Putin as he meets with Assad in Moscow
By Simon Tomlinson for MailOnline

Published: 02:36 EST, 21 October 2015  | Updated: 11:45 EST, 21 October 2015

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3282371/President-Assad-holds-talks-Putin-Moscow-Russia-s-air-strikes-Syria-Canada-s-new-PM-announces-nation-withdraw-jets.html#ixzz3pFQ0f1FH
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Canada definitely have puppet government.
: MSM: Putin accuses US of backing terrorism in Middle East (Duh!)
: One Revelator October 22, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
Russian president Vladimir Putin launched a stinging attack on US policy in the Middle East on Thursday, accusing Washington of backing terrorism and playing a “double game” in the Middle East.   

In a speech at the annual gathering of the Valdai Club, a group of Russian and international analysts and politicians, Putin said the US had attempted to use terrorist groups in its own interests.

“It’s always hard to play a double game: to declare a fight against terrorists, but at the same time try to use some of them to move the pieces on the Middle Eastern chessboard in your own favour,” said the Russian leader.

More:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-accuses-us-of-backing-terrorism-in-middle-east/ar-BBmkAAU?li=AAa0dzB

Sure took the world leadership long enough to point out the obvious. Now if someone would just bring up 9/11, that would be peachy.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok October 31, 2015, 06:36:41 PM
Putin's approval rating is now at 89.9%

there is a joke about dictators being hang  when having rating 90%
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly December 19, 2015, 01:28:21 PM


... why am I not surprised?


Putin for PM: 4 out of 5 say they would prefer
Russian president than Cameron as UK leader


RUSSIAN President Vladimir Putin has beaten David Cameron to be crowned
the most popular choice for the next prime minster of the United Kingdom.

By TOM BATCHELOR   Fri, Dec 18, 2015

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/putin-627989.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/putin-627989.jpg.html)

The ex-KGB strongman attracted the support of four out of five Express.co.uk readers, compared with just one in five who opted for the current PM running the country.

Asked 'Who would you rather was Britain's prime minister?', 78 per cent chose the Russian president, while 22 per cent voted for Mr Cameron.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/627989/Vladimir-Putin-David-Cameron-poll-who-want-British-PM
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy December 19, 2015, 02:27:26 PM

... why am I not surprised?


Putin for PM: 4 out of 5 say they would prefer
Russian president than Cameron as UK leader


RUSSIAN President Vladimir Putin has beaten David Cameron to be crowned
the most popular choice for the next prime minster of the United Kingdom.

By TOM BATCHELOR   Fri, Dec 18, 2015

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/putin-627989.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/putin-627989.jpg.html)

The ex-KGB strongman attracted the support of four out of five Express.co.uk readers, compared with just one in five who opted for the current PM running the country.

Asked 'Who would you rather was Britain's prime minister?', 78 per cent chose the Russian president, while 22 per cent voted for Mr Cameron.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/627989/Vladimir-Putin-David-Cameron-poll-who-want-British-PM

Jackson, unfortunately I have to disappoint you. "Daily Express "is still one of the tabloids in England.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Expresshttp://
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly December 19, 2015, 05:45:24 PM
Jackson, unfortunately I have to disappoint you. "Daily Express "is still one of the tabloids in England.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Expresshttp://

^^^^ THANKS!


... too good to be true!  :)
Wikipedia says they have
been around since 1927 ...
supports UKIP party ... and
has circulation around 1/2M.
Most of those UK sites have a
lot of pop-culture/sexy fluff ..
it IS hard to tell what's
believeable!
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy December 19, 2015, 05:49:19 PM
^^^^ THANKS!


... too good to be true!  :)
Wikipedia says they have
been around since 1927 ...
supports UKIP party ... and
has circulation around 1/2M.
Most of those UK sites have a
lot of pop-culture/sexy fluff ..
it IS hard to tell what's
believeable!

"Daily Mail", "Express"...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy May 29, 2016, 12:06:33 PM

Orthodox monks on Mount Athos, Greece hosted Russian President Vladimir Putin at the place where once sat the Roman emperors, Byzantine( East Roman ) emperors and emperors of Tzar Russia.

I see Putin was not invited to the Bilderberg conference in June. Why?

Because it's the right one, which first wrote "Putin is a traitor to the New World Order."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36405480http://
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue May 29, 2016, 12:08:29 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36405480
Vladimir Putin visits Mount Athos, all-male Orthodox enclave
28 May 2016

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/15538/production/_89825378_1f6eeb68-5f1f-451d-8fbd-e8159134299b.jpg)

Russian President Vladimir Putin has visited the monasteries at Mount Athos, in northern Greece, one of Orthodox Christianity's holiest sites.

Mr Putin joined celebrations at the monastery of St Panteleimon to mark 1,000 years of Russian monks at Mount Athos.

He was accompanied by Patriarch Kirill, head of the Russian Orthodox Church.

Mount Athos is an enclave of 20 monasteries. Women have been banned for over 1,000 years.

Greece and Russia are both largely Orthodox Christian countries and have close religious ties.
...

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[ This is interesting since it breaks the 1988 deal with the USSR breakup to agree to never expand Nato eastward ...  so this is pissing Putin off ...  oh well


(https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.history.state.gov/milestones/us-soviet.jpg)
Gorbachev, Reagan, and Bush in New York City, December 1988. (Ronald Reagan Presidential Library)


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/05/28/putin-warns-romania-poland-over-implementing-us-missile-shield.html
Putin warns Romania, Poland over implementing US missile shield
Published May 28, 2016
· FoxNews.com
 
Romania and Poland are in the potential crosshairs of Russian rockets because they are hosting parts of the U.S. missile defense shield that Moscow considers a threat to its national security, President Vladimir Putin warned Friday.

Putin warned the European nations that Moscow has repeatedly said it would have to retaliate
if the missile defense shield was put into place, but U.S. allies have ignored Russia’s warnings.

Earlier this month, the U.S. program was declared operational at a site in Romania, drawing an angry reaction from Russia. NATO said the system is purely defensive and a response to a growing capability of ballistic missiles globally.
...

Washington has said that the shield is needed to protect Europe from Iran and is not a threat. Another part of the shield is getting ready to be implemented in Poland.

...

Reuters reported that Putin didn’t lay out the actions that Moscow would take, but insisted that it was not making the first move. It was only going to respond to Washington’s moves.

"We won't take any action until we see rockets in areas that neighbor us,” Putin added.

Putin cried foul over the claim that the defense system was need to protect from Iran. He said that excuse made no sense because of the landmark nuclear deal that was struck to curb Tehran’s nuclear ambitions.

Putin said the missiles coming out of Europe could easily hit Russia.

"We've been repeating like a mantra that we will be forced to respond... Nobody wants to hear us. Nobody wants to conduct negotiations with us."
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly September 13, 2016, 09:00:16 PM


... this whole article is RICH, LOL!    ;D

Putin Politely Expresses His Amazement At Western Stupidity
September 8, 2016  - Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

EXCERPTS:
"Are we really about to fight NATO? How many people live in NATO? About 600 million, correct? There are 146 million in Russia. Yes, we’re the biggest nuclear power. But do you really think that we’re about to conquer the Baltics using nuclear weapons? What is this madness?"

“As far as expanding our zone of influence is concerned, it took me nine hours to fly to Vladivostok from Moscow. This is about the same from Moscow to New York, through all of Eastern and Western Europe and the Atlantic Ocean. Do you think we need to expand something?”

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/09/08/putin-politely-expresses-his-amazement-at-western-stupidity/
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy October 26, 2016, 03:29:21 PM
Nick Butler ( Financial Times ) suggest Russian oligarchs to overthrow President Putin and "save Russia" .  :o

http://blogs.ft.com/nick-butler/2016/10/17/http://

Nick Butler is Visiting Professor and Chair of the Kings Policy Institute at Kings College London.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: marlowe October 28, 2016, 06:42:44 PM
Russia loses UN Human Rights Council place, Saudi Arabia re-elected

https://www.rt.com/news/364584-russia-saudi-unhrc-election/

we don't have a thread for insanity on the world stage so I'm posting this here....

For the first time since its inception in 2006, Russia has lot an election to the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) after being narrowly beaten by Croatia in a vote. Saudi Arabia was successfully re-elected, despite criticism from human rights organizations.




Read more

© Denis BalibouseOver 80 NGOs call for Russia to be dropped from UN rights council over Syria
The 47 places on the council are distributed on a regional basis, with staggered ballots seeing a third of the body re-elected each year. Russia had finished its three-year term and was running against Hungary and Croatia for the two available seats from Eastern Europe.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy October 28, 2016, 07:24:25 PM
Russia loses UN Human Rights Council place, Saudi Arabia re-elected

https://www.rt.com/news/364584-russia-saudi-unhrc-election/

we don't have a thread for insanity on the world stage so I'm posting this here....

For the first time since its inception in 2006, Russia has lot an election to the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) after being narrowly beaten by Croatia in a vote. Saudi Arabia was successfully re-elected, despite criticism from human rights organizations.




Read more

© Denis BalibouseOver 80 NGOs call for Russia to be dropped from UN rights council over Syria
The 47 places on the council are distributed on a regional basis, with staggered ballots seeing a third of the body re-elected each year. Russia had finished its three-year term and was running against Hungary and Croatia for the two available seats from Eastern Europe.


Marlowe, that is New world order.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue October 28, 2016, 08:26:25 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/256757-saudi-arabia-beheadings-rights/
Beheading of 5 foreigners in Saudi Arabia triggers outcry from human rights campaigners
Published time: 8 May, 2015 09:26
Edited time: 12 Sep, 2015 12:23

(https://img.rt.com/files/news/3e/af/50/00/saudi-arabia-beheadings-rights.jpg)

Human rights groups have condemned Saudi Arabia after the beheading of five foreigners this week. Experts warn 2015 will mark a dramatic increase in public executions, as 80 people have already been killed, compared to 88 in the whole of 2014.
...
Despite mounting international criticism from foreign governments and human rights campaigners, Saudi Arabia has shown no willingness to end public executions.


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Americans PAY for this crap ...

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
U.S. Pays $3B for UN--More Than 185 Other Countries Combined
By Patrick Goodenough | May 7, 2015 | 4:23 AM EDT

(CNSNews.com) – American taxpayers will pony up around $3.024 billion this year towards the United Nations’ regular and peacekeeping budgets, more than what 185 other countries combined are paying, an expert on the international body told U.S. lawmakers on Wednesday.

While the U.S. contribution in 2015 to the U.N. regular budget is $621.9 million, the 35 countries contributing the least will pay just $28,269 each, Heritage Foundation scholar Brett Schaefer told the Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee responsible for multilateral institutions.

And where the U.S. will pay $2.402 billion towards the separate peacekeeping budget, the 20 countries contributing the least will pay just $8,470 each.




Russia loses UN Human Rights Council place, Saudi Arabia re-elected

https://www.rt.com/news/364584-russia-saudi-unhrc-election/

we don't have a thread for insanity on the world stage so I'm posting this here....

For the first time since its inception in 2006, Russia has lot an election to the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) after being narrowly beaten by Croatia in a vote. Saudi Arabia was successfully re-elected, despite criticism from human rights organizations.

: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Olga January 06, 2017, 07:16:10 AM
When globalists attack another country, then it's freedom.

When Putin, it's murder....
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy January 06, 2017, 05:27:16 PM
Russian President Putin in small church on God Service  :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mdJdJNVoJw4&time_continue=1788http://Russ
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: EvadingGrid January 07, 2017, 05:26:49 AM
Russian President Putin in small church on God Service  :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mdJdJNVoJw4&time_continue=1788http://Russ

:-)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue January 07, 2017, 11:22:42 AM
another cute Putin photo:

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/world/russia-resists-diplomatic-tit-for-tat-over-hacking-fracas/
Russia resists diplomatic tit-for-tat over hacking fracas
Author AAP,  SectionWorld,  Publish DateSaturday, 31 December 2016, 8:13AM 

(http://img.newstalkzb.co.nz/media/16873915/vladimir-putin-smiling-suit-getty.jpg)

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ruled out expelling anyone in retaliation for Washington's decision to throw out 35 Russian diplomats and impose sanctions on two of the country's intelligence agencies.

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[ Globalist Double down ... ] :

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/russia-hack-report.html?_r=0
Putin Ordered ‘Influence Campaign’ Aimed at U.S. Election, Report Says
By DAVID E. SANGER JAN. 6, 2017

WASHINGTON — American intelligence officials have concluded that the president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, personally “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election,” and turned from seeking to “denigrate” Hillary Clinton to developing “a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”

The conclusions were part of a declassified intelligence report, ordered by President Obama, that was released on Friday. Its main determinations were described to Mr. Trump by the nation’s top intelligence officials earlier in the day, and he responded by acknowledging, for the first time, that Russia had sought to hack into the Democratic National Committee’s computer systems. But he insisted that the effort had no effect on the election, and he said nothing about the conclusion that Mr. Putin, at some point last year, decided to aid his candidacy.
...
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http://a.abcnews.com/Politics/Story?id=7586530&page=1
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi: CIA Lied to Me
 By Rick Klein
  HUMA KHAN
May 14, 2009

 House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., accused CIA briefers today of lying to her and other lawmakers about the use of enhanced interrogation techniques, such as waterboarding, and said she had only been informed of their use five months lat
er.

"The CIA briefed me only once on enhanced interrogation techniques in September 2002 in my capacity as ranking member of the Intelligence Committee. I was informed then that the Department of Justice opinions had concluded that the use of enhanced interrogation techniques were legal. The only mention of waterboarding at that briefing was that it was not being employed," Pelosi said today, reading from a prepared statement.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Jackson Holly January 07, 2017, 12:31:50 PM
^^^

... well, it is no secret that SPY -vs- SPY all over the place!
But I still am convinced, like Trump, Inc. is, that Clapper
and the other outgoing crowd are just trying to push this
non-story for whatever it is worth in the BIG GET TRUMP
SCHEME OF THINGS.

... it IS a MAD world!
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/spy-61.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/spy-61.jpg.html)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue June 06, 2017, 02:35:09 PM
this is good ... sorry ladies ...

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-06/macho-putin-in-driver-s-seat-as-he-takes-oliver-stone-for-a-ride

Macho Putin in Driver’s Seat as He Takes Oliver Stone for a Ride
by Jake Rudnitsky
, Ilya Arkhipov
, and Henry Meyer
June 6, 2017, 5:00 AM PDT June 6, 2017, 5:54 AM PDT

Putin says he’s ‘not a woman, so I don’t have bad days’

,...
President Vladimir Putin behind the wheel as filmmaker Oliver Stone quizzes him on the fugitive Edward Snowden in a scene from his new documentary on the Russian leader.
...
While Putin expounds on favorite subjects including U.S. geopolitical overreach, he’s also shown staring stone-faced at the classic Cold War doomsday satire Dr. Strangelove. He explained that he never has an off day as president because he’s a man.

“I am not a woman, so I don’t have bad days,” he tells Stone while giving a tour of the Kremlin’s gilded throne room. “I am not trying to insult anyone. That’s just the nature of things. There are certain natural cycles.”
...

“As of today a missile shield would not protect the territory of the United States,” he tells Stone after the director points out that it was U.S. Independence Day. “Nobody would survive” a war between nuclear superpowers, he said.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Outer Haven June 09, 2017, 09:37:55 AM
Pigeon SALUTES Putin!

youtube.com/watch?v=GZ41VpBif7Q
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy August 09, 2017, 05:00:27 PM
What did Putin do as a KGB agent?

"Russian word" Oleg Jegorov, | 08. 08. 2017

KGB agent Vladimir Putin, the future president of Russia, spent five years in Dresden in East Germany. Here's what we know about this period of Putin's career.
- The secret agent can never be ex-says the Russian proverb, and Vladimir Putin is, in all likelihood, a living example that she is true. He was from 1975-1991. He was an agent of the KGB. He does not talk much about his career in the KGB, nor about the years he spent in Dresden (1985-1989) as an agent in East Germany. Almost nothing is known about the operations in which he participated as an agent of the external intelligence service. However, some data are known, and the site "Russian word" has published them in its text.

"A pretty routine job"

Putin was a very young agent (33 years old) when sent by the KGB leadership to East Germany. He was already married (now his ex-wife) Ljudmila and had one child - his daughter Maria (younger daughter Yekaterina was born in Dresden in 1986). After finishing his training at the Academy of Foreign Intelligence in Moscow, Putin could choose (since he spoke German) would he wait a few years to direct him to West Germany or immediately go to East Germany. He chose this other.

In a book of interviews with Russia's first man, Putin talks about how KGB agents were interested in gathering all information related to a strategic opponent, thinking about NATO. The Russian president modestly characterized his work as a "rather routine job" and outlined his activities at the time: recruiting informants, collecting data and forwarding them to Moscow.

In an interview for state television "Russia 24" in 2017 Putin said that all his work in the external intelligence service was closely related to the illegal, i.e. Secret agents. Since Putin himself was the legal agent of the KGB, this means that he communicated with illegal residents and helped them stay connected with the "center".


The impression is that now Putin as president speaks of a period spent in Germany as something that he remained in a good memory, and that he does not forget his old colleagues. For example, in 2017, he personally visited his former chief Lazar Mojsejev, a former KGB representative in the State Security Service of East Germany, and congratulated him on his 90th birthday.

Beer and neighbors from Stazia

Putin (now ex-wife) Ljudmila in the interview said that their family was thrilled with German cleanliness and organization. As far as Putin is concerned, he admitted that he received 12 kilograms in Germany thanks to the German beer he consume while resting after a hard working day in the KGB. Upon his return to Russia he lost excess pounds, perhaps because the Russian beer in the 1990s was not so good.

According to Ljudmila, they organized family lunches, which were also invited by Putin's colleagues and Germans. Of course, there were also several agents of Stasi, because the USSR and East Germany were allies, and members of the East German secret police lived in Putin's neighborhood.


A Russian leader says his family did not live luxuriously. They only managed to save money for the car, which in the socialist countries at that time was rare. Ljudmila stated in the interview that she had the impression that the agents of Stasi had higher salaries than KGB agents.

Putin and a crowd of disgruntled Germans

However, the Stazes went badly in 1989 when the Berlin Wall fell and the unification of Germany began. On December 5, 1989, Putin saw that a crowd of angry citizens were attacking a German state security building located on the same street as the KGB headquarters, and he realized that his staff would be attacked. He tried to establish contact with KGB administration in Moscow, but nobody answered him. Then Putin independently withdrew a determined move.

Zigfrid Danat, who was in that crowd, remembers that a Russian officer came out of the building and approached the closed gate. He told the crowd that people had to leave the facility because it was a Soviet territory and armed security was ready to shoot if someone broke in. Danat says that this KGB member was polite and spoke German well. These words calmed the crowd (no one wanted bloodshed) and everyone left the KGB headquarters alone.

Vladimir Putin (and he was that officer) did not have much time to enjoy the triumph. Within days, he and his colleagues have destroyed all KGB-related material in East Germany. The most valuable documents were sent to Moscow, and everything else was burned. "We ate them day by day," Putin said. "We burned so much of the paper that the oven was ruined." Shortly afterwards, Putin left his Dresden with his family. His mission was completed, as was the presence of the KGB in Germany.

http://www.blic.rs/vesti/svet/cime-se-bavio-putin-kao-agent-kgb-malo-pio-pivo-malo-spaljivao-dokumenta-uobicajene/kzxjczjhttp://
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok August 29, 2017, 06:32:36 AM
to bundy. he was somewhat a master of ceremony + pimp in eastern germany. in other words he helped comrads to have some leisure time.
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy August 29, 2017, 06:57:28 AM
to bundy. he was somewhat a master of ceremony + pimp in eastern germany. in other words he helped comrads to have some leisure time.

Maybe I do not understand English so well but let me explain: Putin was a "master of ceremony + pimp"  ???

P.S. Where you get that stories ?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Outer Haven September 20, 2017, 12:36:35 PM
>Putin
>KGB
What about George "nWo" Bush I being the boss of the CIA...?
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue September 20, 2017, 01:53:55 PM
http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/international/putin-asista-la-exercitiul-militar-zapad-care-simuleaza-un-razboi-cu-nato.html
Putin witnesses the Zapad military exercise, which simulates a war with NATO
 18 Septembrie 2017
(http://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/680xX/Sep2017/61910303.jpg)

Russian President Vladimir Putin witnesses Monday the joint military maneuvers with Western Belarus 2017, which worry the countries in the region.

Accompanied by Defense Minister Serghei Soigu, Putin witnessed the west-west exercises at the Lujchi polygon in western Russia, just 100 kilometers east of the Estonia border. Newsweek writes that the Kremlin leader will not assist in the first contact of US President Donald Trump with the UN.
...

Western analysts, as well as the governments of NATO states on the border with Russia (Poland and the Baltic States), are afraid of a much wider mobilization of up to 100,000 soldiers. The most optimistic scenarios talk about testing Russia's reaction capacity in the event of an armed conflict with NATO and the most pessimistic about the prelude to an invasion. The alert was launched by General Philip Breedlove, the former head of the American forces in Europe, who said that, according to his information, the Russians mobilized 83 times more train wagons than the previous Zapad exercise, the 2013 one, to which there were about 10,000 soldiers.
...
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: Al Bundy September 20, 2017, 02:34:52 PM
http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/international/putin-asista-la-exercitiul-militar-zapad-care-simuleaza-un-razboi-cu-nato.html
Putin witnesses the Zapad military exercise, which simulates a war with NATO
 18 Septembrie 2017
(http://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/680xX/Sep2017/61910303.jpg)

Russian President Vladimir Putin witnesses Monday the joint military maneuvers with Western Belarus 2017, which worry the countries in the region.

Accompanied by Defense Minister Serghei Soigu, Putin witnessed the west-west exercises at the Lujchi polygon in western Russia, just 100 kilometers east of the Estonia border. Newsweek writes that the Kremlin leader will not assist in the first contact of US President Donald Trump with the UN.
...

Western analysts, as well as the governments of NATO states on the border with Russia (Poland and the Baltic States), are afraid of a much wider mobilization of up to 100,000 soldiers. The most optimistic scenarios talk about testing Russia's reaction capacity in the event of an armed conflict with NATO and the most pessimistic about the prelude to an invasion. The alert was launched by General Philip Breedlove, the former head of the American forces in Europe, who said that, according to his information, the Russians mobilized 83 times more train wagons than the previous Zapad exercise, the 2013 one, to which there were about 10,000 soldiers.
...

In Ukraine, military manouvers  " Rapid Trident 2017 "- Seems nothing is changed  :'(

http://www.eur.army.mil/RapidTrident/http://
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: regmeok October 14, 2017, 03:50:12 PM
P.S. Where you get that stories ?

i came up with master of ceremony as dont know any other english variation for entartainers and leisure time providers.

quite probable speculation to say the least (based on info from the times of more or less free press). as he was a 'club manager/administrator' or smth like that. but let us think other way. imagine low-level officer somewhere in $hithole of  GDR. and all it was happening in mid 80s (the time when soviet nomenklatura was ready to *uck up the soviet union ).
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: TahoeBlue October 25, 2017, 04:33:52 PM
RUSSIA SCRIPT FLIPPED...
Top Hillary lawyer lied for YEAR about dossier...
MESS: Pressure builds on Mueller to recuse himself...
FBI On Hot Seat...
Busted Media Downplay Revelations...
TRUMP: 'HOAX IS TURNED AROUND'...
'They are very embarrassed'...

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/clinton-campaign-dnc-helped-pay-for-work-on-dossier-about-russia-and-trump/
DC ROCKED: CLINTON PAID FOR KREMLIN DIRT ON TRUMP
(https://s.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/M1b6PagOcxzMOYUcUYxJ6g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYwMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/theatlanticwire/Vladimir_Putin_Has_Weird__Sexist-b67be469ef66188b211fba91dcd014af.cf.png)
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: iamc2 October 29, 2017, 06:45:42 PM
The old Hag Clinton is a Nazi commie and that is True!

...this Old hag should be in prison... :P

..,the Crazy Clintons/ with Obama, have set America back into the Dark Age: but Trump/ with our help will turn our Nation back on course!~
: Re: Vladimir Putin
: jofortruth November 03, 2017, 03:37:51 PM
Crooked Hillary Defends Paying For Fake Russia Dossier After Lying About it For Months (VIDEO) (Such a liar! She needs to get out of politics. She is too corrupt and no one trusts her anymore. Shameful)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/hillary-defends-paying-fake-russia-dossier-lying-months-video/


Democrat party going down

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=320391.0