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: SHOOTING: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged -- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 14, 2012, 10:48:02 AM
Here we go again...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/reports-connecticut-police-evacuating-elementary-school-where-shooting-153815107.html

Reports: Connecticut police evacuating elementary school where shooting reported

State police are entering a Connecticut elementary school after a shooting was reported there. The building, Sandy Hook Elementary in Newton, Conn., is on lockdown and police are evacuating people inside the building, NBC Connecticut reports.
 
Connecticut's News 8 WTNH-TV says a witness saw one child with a bloody face leaving the building.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 11:25:59 AM
One Confirmed Dead In School Shooting In Newtown:
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story


Sources said a person believed to be a shooter is dead. Earlier reports of a second shooter are unconfirmed.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
(http://www.infosalvo.com/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/elemshooting.fc500e0b56e859f741003a5a781506b1336.png)

NEWTOWN, CT (WFSB) -
Connecticut State Police said they were assisting Newtown police after a shooting was reported inside a Newtown school Friday morning.

The shooting was reported at Sandy Hook Elementary School around 9:41 a.m., according to Connecticut State Police. Few details have been released during this unfolding situation, but state police said this is one of the worst shootings emergency officials have seen in a long time.

According to the NewsTimes, the children inside the school have been evacuated to a nearby fire station.

Read More...
http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/elementary-school-shooting-in-connecticut/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 11:39:18 AM
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-pictures-newtown-school-shooting-20121214,0,2741090.photogallery


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 11:40:52 AM
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-pictures-newtown-school-shooting-20121214,0,2741090.photogallery
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 11:45:08 AM


  At least the shooter is dead.  Pray for the children.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 14, 2012, 11:56:19 AM

  At least the shooter is dead.  Pray for the children.

Reports of "multiple fatalities" now.  Indeed, pray all you can.

Makes me sick to my stomach.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 11:56:35 AM
CNN - A local correspondent just interviewed a family of 3

Kid said roughly, first there were people, then there were police on the roof,... she did not say she heard shots fired, not even when the reporter asked her directly,... she added that she could see so much because it was close to her classroom window

Father said roughly, he though there were more shooters in the school, and just said he wondered how these people got into the school given its high security, even saying he thought it would have to be an inside job

The reporter referenced a man being led away in cuffs by police on the scene, witnessed, and CNN disreguarded it, Ashley Banfield reporting, and just keeps reporting that the gunman is dead at the scene.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 14, 2012, 11:59:11 AM
early news reports say second gunman on CNN.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 12:07:54 PM


  WHY DO PEOPLE KILL KIDS?

  The greatest gift anyone has in their life is their childhood.
                                    -------Jeff Rense

 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 12:11:51 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-ct-school-shooting/


LIVE UPDATES: Newtown, CT School Shooting
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11:55 a.m.: Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton tells WABC three victims in hospital are in “very serious condition.”
11:52 a.m.: Danbury Hospital confirms three patients have been taken there for treatment.
A shooting involving two gunmen erupted at a Connecticut elementary school this morning, prompting the town of Newtown to lock down all of its schools and draw SWAT teams to the school, authorities said today.
State Police confirm that one shooter is dead. A second gunman is apparently at large, sources told ABC News.
The shooting occurred at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, about 12 miles east of Danbury.
State Police received the first 911 call at 9:41 a.m. and immediately began sending emergency units from the western part of the state. Initial 911 calls stated that multiple students were trapped in a classroom, possibly with a gunman, according to a Connecticut State Police source.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 12:21:03 PM
A second witness-hand on CNN right now is saying that over a hundred rounds were fired at three people, Principle, Vice Principle, and school Psychologist,... only the Vice Principle come out of the fire but he was wounded in the foot.

The shooting occured at the time of a school meeting, at the beginning of it, and the second-hand witness is claiming that the witness felt the shooting was timed with the meeting,... the three above walked into the hall into the hail of fire in the hallway outside of the meeting.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 12:34:57 PM
Local Coverage: School Shooting in Connecticut

ABC/Disney/Viacom affiliate (http://www.9wsyr.com/content/mediacenter/live/story2/Local-Coverage-School-Shooting-in-Connecticut/BmItwKLgYkGc9-yTKF8Gyg.cspx)

Reporting that children are being directed to a local firehouse and aren't allowed to leave.  Kids still on lockdown within school too

CBS reporting multiple children dead, death toll expected to reach double digits.

One reporter saying, police are still surrounding the building because there might be someone else involved in the shooting.

God help the targets of this attrocity.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 12:40:03 PM
ABC LIVE STREAM

         http://abcnews.go.com/live



    ABC REPORTING MORE THAN A DOZEN DEAD
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 12:41:57 PM
reporter a the scene just asked a policeman at a briefing, were more than two dozen killed and were 14 children?


CBS just reported 27 dead, (14 children) correct that, larsondoc got it right, at least 9 adults.

Just two handguns recovered.  Started with a confrontation outside the school office.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 12:44:14 PM


  CBS REPORTING 27 DEAD.  AT LEAST 9 OF THEM ADULTS
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: CheneysWorstNightmare December 14, 2012, 12:45:57 PM

  CBS REPORTING 27 DEAD.  AT LEAST 9 OF THEM ADULTS

Whoa. This is REALLY gonna get the anti-gun leftist rolling.

This is like OKC bombing, a bunch of kids dead.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 12:47:21 PM


  A BETTER LIVE FEED
            http://www.9wsyr.com/content/mediacenter/live/story2/Local-Coverage-School-Shooting-in-Connecticut/BmItwKLgYkGc9-yTKF8Gyg.cspx
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 12:48:27 PM
18-20 year old male, local in the community
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: CheneysWorstNightmare December 14, 2012, 12:51:40 PM
Columbine II...one week before 12-21-12.

Methinks their could be another MK-Ultra victim ready to unleash on 12-21-12.

That would make the NWO happy for their special day. 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 12:52:45 PM



  Kids from kindergarten to grade 4.  Awful.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 14, 2012, 12:53:46 PM
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/?hpt=us_c2
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 12:54:16 PM
Columbine II...one week before 12-21-12.

Methinks their could be another MK-Ultra victim ready to unleash on 12-21-12.

That would make the NWO happy for their special day. 

  Let's hope you are wrong.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 12:55:01 PM
And if any of the teachers had a gun in a locked draw ?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 12:59:22 PM
reporter Robert Gouldsen, abc local on the ground just reported that one child told their father that someone walked into the classroom and shot the teacher
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: CheneysWorstNightmare December 14, 2012, 01:00:40 PM
  Let's hope you are wrong.

Me, too.  Ironically I was listening to Steve Quayle and Russ Dizdar on the Hagmann and Hagmann report last night on blogtalk radio.  Russ Dizdar wrote a book about mind-control.  He believes that there are millions of MK-Ultra/SRA victims around the world.  He also believes, through interviews with these victims, that when the New World Order starts making major moves, many of these MK-Ultra victims will "snap" and start pulling triggers on citizens, like what we saw today.  This would be part of the "Ordo ab Chao" (out of the order comes the chaos) philosophy of the Illuminati.  Russ Dizdar's book about MK-Ultra/SRA victims is called "The Black Awakening".  It is very dark, disturbing, and scary.  
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 01:01:21 PM
http://fox40.com/2012/12/14/close-to-20-people-killed-in-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting/

CNN) — The suspected gunman’s body was found in a classroom inside a Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school where authorities say as many as 20 were killed, including 10 children, a source close to the investigation told CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

More information to come. Keep checking FOX40.com.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 01:02:49 PM
Me, too.  Ironically I was listening to Steve Quayle and Russ Dizdar on the Hagmann and Hagmann report last night on blogtalk radio.  Russ Dizdar wrote a book about mind-control.  He believes that there are millions of MK-Ultra/SRA victims around the world.  He also believes, through interviews with these victims, that when the New World Order starts making major moves, many of these MK-Ultra victims will "snap" and start pulling triggers on citizens, like what we saw today.  This would be part of the "Ordo ab Chao" (out of the order comes the chaos) philosophy of the Illuminati.  Russ Dizdar's book about MK-Ultra/SRA victims is called "The Black Awakening".  It is very dark, disturbing, and scary.  

  Interesting.  I believe there are many under MK Ultra.  Can you give us a link to the show?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 01:03:47 PM
eyewitness, 14 yo who lives behind the school reporting to abc (which seems to be carrying the cbs local feed), that the first three police cars responding to the school pulled up around a black vehicle,...

reporting that lockdown was just lifted
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
I am waiting for this to happen in Illinois. especially after the fed judge passed the conceal carry in this state.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: CheneysWorstNightmare December 14, 2012, 01:10:57 PM
  Interesting.  I believe there are many under MK Ultra.  Can you give us a link to the show?

Here you go, bro.  It is 3 hours long. I listened to the first 90 minutes and need to listen to the last half.  The first 90 minutes were POWERFUL.  I am one that constantly listens to Quayle.  However, I know many do not like Quayle.  But I would say that this is a MUST LISTEN! This show does bring in some Bible prophecy.

Show:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2012/12/14/the-hagmann-hagmann-report

Russ Dizdar's Web Site:

http://shatterthedarkness.net/

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: bento December 14, 2012, 01:12:06 PM
Hands down this has to be an op I can feel it what kind of sick f**k kills children like this? They want your guns and will kill as many children as they need to to get them!!!!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: CheneysWorstNightmare December 14, 2012, 01:12:22 PM
I am waiting for this to happen in Illinois. especially after the fed judge passed the conceal carry in this state.

Yeah.  A major one would be ideal for the NWO.  Illinois is perfect.  Plus, it's Obummer's "home state".  And that scumbag Rham Emmanuel is mayor of Chicago.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 14, 2012, 01:13:31 PM
Oh boy...this is WORSE than Columbine...

I wonder if we'll hear any outrage from Lynne Cheney, Joe Lieberman, John McCain, and Lt. Dave Grossman over "violence in the media" this time around...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 01:14:11 PM
cbs/abc local:  shooting spread all through out the school, the largest part occuring in one classroom and that the incident began at the school office

just reported:  an unprescidented call went out state wide to all police on duty and off duty to respond to this high school shooting

 


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 01:19:18 PM
AJ show:  call in witness reporting rumors of two gunmen dressed as nuns (?!?!) and one other gunman


...did I hear him right?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: CheneysWorstNightmare December 14, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
AJ show:  call in witness reporting rumors of two gunmen dressed as nuns (?!?!) and one other gunman


...did I hear him right?


Yes, you did.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 14, 2012, 01:24:51 PM
18-20 year old male, local in the community
Source?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Optimus December 14, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
They can't account for an entire classroom of kids?



At least 27 people are dead after a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, according to the Associated Press.

At least 18 children were among those killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School, according to the news service, which cited an unidentified official with knowledge of the situation. The shooter is dead and had two guns, the AP said. CNN said the shooter’s body was found in a classroom.

Many shootings took place in a kindergarten class, according to the Hartford Courant. One entire classroom is unaccounted for outside the school, the paper reported on its website.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-12-14/connecticut-shooting-leaves-27-dead-including-pupils-ap
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 01:25:41 PM
AJ show:  call in witness reporting rumors of two gunmen dressed as nuns (?!?!) and one other gunman


...did I hear him right?

Yes...

Maybe Obama will ban Nuns Habits ?
OR
Its staged and designed to Ban Guns ?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 01:26:20 PM
CNN just had a policman on who was calling for neurological screening for firearms purchases,... they didn't wait long,... the bodies aren't even cold - creeps.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Optimus December 14, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
FOX news is reporting a possible second shooter, wearing camo and body armour is in custody.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 01:29:13 PM
Yes...

Maybe Obama will ban Nuns Habits ?
OR
Its staged and designed to Ban Guns ?

yessir.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 01:31:26 PM
CNN:   kid witnessed police outside of firehouse on top of a man on the ground in cuffs
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 01:35:39 PM
You notice how they cut the camera and audio on that kid as soon as he started talking about the guy on the ground in hand cuffs.

Reports of multiple shooters all morning, CNN trying to spin it to just 1 shooter.  Already calling for gun control. 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 01:36:48 PM
two handguns and one witness reported around a 100 shots fired at the Principle, Vice Principle, and school Psychologists alone,...

This are not handguns alone, and the psychology of a child killer is not just a normal parent-teacher-principle squabble (Jones is good, he covered it while I was typing :) ).
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 01:37:43 PM
Can anybody get to the school with a video camera . . . ?
Any video could be immeasurable useful..
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: JConner December 14, 2012, 01:38:35 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/connecticut-towns-schools-locked-down-following-shooting-report-153953370.html

NEWTOWN, Connecticut (Reuters) - At least 27 people, including 18 children, were killed on Friday when at least one shooter opened fire at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, CBS News reported, citing unnamed officials.
If confirmed, it would be one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history. It comes after a series of shooting rampages in the United States this year that have killed multiple victims.


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 01:41:03 PM
Parent at firehouse reports that the guy who they arrested in the woods looked her dead in the eyes and said 'I DID NOT DO IT'.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 14, 2012, 01:42:47 PM
To the mod who just moved this thread and renamed it.  You should be ashamed in your renaming, saying it was a "Staged Shooting" at this point.

Hold your editorial comments for when you have better information.  You just did a great service toward discrediting this forum.

Sorry, but that's pathetic on your part.

I hope Alex fires your ass for it.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 01:42:57 PM
Parent at firehouse reports that the guy who they arrested in the woods looked her dead in the eyes and said 'I DID NOT DO IT'.

Sure sign of a Mind Control Drugged Up Brainwashed Patsy
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 01:44:00 PM
To the mod who just moved this thread and renamed it.  You should be ashamed in your renaming, saying it was a "Staged Shooting" at this point.

Hold your editorial comments for when you have better information.  You just did a great service toward discrediting this forum.

Sorry, but that's pathetic on your part.

I take it you are not listening to the radio show, in fact I bet you never listen to the show.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: stymo1 December 14, 2012, 01:44:36 PM
two handguns and one witness reported around a 100 shots fired at the Principle, Vice Principle, and school Psychologists alone,...

This are not handguns alone, and the psychology of a child killer is not just a normal parent-teacher-principle squabble (Jones is good, he covered it while I was typing :) ).

Can someone download this while we can?

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2012/12/14/bpr-artley-shooting.cnn (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2012/12/14/bpr-artley-shooting.cnn)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Optimus December 14, 2012, 01:45:10 PM
Oh crap! If I heard this talking point right then there IS going to be more false flag school shootings to come.

FOX NEWS: UNFORTUNATELY WHEN THESE KINDERGARTEN SHOOTINGS GET STARTED "THERE WILL BE OTHERS".
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Hawkwind December 14, 2012, 01:46:26 PM
gotta be mossad op...come on, kindergarden kids? i mean really?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 01:46:52 PM
Oh crap! If I heard this talking point right then there IS going to be more false flag school shootings to come.

FOX NEWS: UNFORTUNATELY WHEN THESE KINDERGARTEN SHOOTINGS GET STARTED "THERE WILL BE OTHERS".

Since this is agenda driven so St Obama can save us from owning guns, that well might be a prophetic statement.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: SUPREMEMASTER December 14, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
One Confirmed Dead In School Shooting In Newtown:
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story

Sources said a person believed to be a shooter is dead. Earlier reports of a second shooter are unconfirmed.

For the record, I was thinking of making a post saying "Well I bet the second shooter was the mop-up agent that killed the first shooter. Then they will blame suicide as being the first (and ONLY) shooter's death, because the first shooter was a mind-control victim used by our treasonous multi-trillion dollar military in a hostile psy op against the united states of america to destroy the second ammendment and then the first ammendment, in that order, once they blame people like Alex Jones for obviously committing the mass murder that he didn't commit, and was only framed for." But I got distracted by alot of crap and let my guard down and underestimated the situation, therefor delaying the post.

To the mod who just moved this thread and renamed it.  You should be ashamed in your renaming, saying it was a "Staged Shooting" at this point.

Hold your editorial comments for when you have better information.  You just did a great service toward discrediting this forum.

Sorry, but that's pathetic on your part.

I hope Alex fires your ass for it.

http://www.infowars.com/audiobox.html (http://www.infowars.com/audiobox.html)

Step 1: Click link above^

Step 2: There is no step 2.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
911 is their big code

27 dead 2+7=9

12-14-12 = 11

1+2+1+4+1+2 = 11
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Dorrogeray December 14, 2012, 01:52:13 PM
And so the agenda moves forward..
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 01:53:50 PM
911 is their big code

27 dead 2+7=9

12-14-12 = 11

1+2+1+4+1+2 = 11

I'm impressed.
Your quite right, and it is a signature.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 01:54:48 PM
27 Dead 2+7=9 also 12-14-12 add them to get 11.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 01:55:17 PM
You notice how they cut the camera and audio on that kid as soon as he started talking about the guy on the ground in hand cuffs.

Reports of multiple shooters all morning, CNN trying to spin it to just 1 shooter.  Already calling for gun control.  

That's been happening all day long, to witness all over the networks.  The local abc/cbs feed that been fine all morning just switched over to some new format that requires a brand new version of Adobe (I updated only days ago???)

Scratch that last part about the local feed,... it just kicked back in, no update.  What's going on,... Mike Adams is reporting live time scrubbing of second shooters references?  If this isn't an op they are doing a great immitation.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Constitutionary December 14, 2012, 01:56:02 PM
Looks like the Globalists are pulling out all the stops now.

They are desperate like a cornered animal.

This should be interesting to see it played out.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 02:03:23 PM
CNN:  a kid reported (roughly) that the police came in secured the school interior and then started yelling, "We're activating everyone!  We're activating everyone!  We're activating everyone!" before getting the kids up and exacting an escape.

He's on again, he's a bit shook up, but I think he said the cops said, "We're evacuating people.  We're evacuating people.  We're evacuating people."

But the kid did go on to say that the police had one guy in custody that he saw as they were being evacuated.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Constitutionary December 14, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
Definitely a false-flag op.....
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: lee51 December 14, 2012, 02:06:38 PM
This is the sickest thing I've ever heard of.  Anyone who murders a child is just plain SICK!!

Good to pay attention to individual early reports to compare with the final report that comes out.  I feel for those who saw things they should not have seen and who will report it--no doubt they will be "silenced."

 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-connecticut-elementary-shooting-is-a-staged-false-flag/

(http://www.infosalvo.com/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/shootingelementary.fc500e0b56e859f741003a5a781506b1338.png)

Newton Connecticut Elementary Shooting Is A Staged False Flag
by Matt McCarson | InfoSalvo.com

At least 27 people were murdered (including 18 children) at Newton Elementary in Connecticut Friday during a staged false glag attack against our guns when multiple shooters were initially reported opening up fire in an elementary school resulting in one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history.  This comes after a series of shooting rampages spreading across the country taking place in mostly white, suburban areas.  

Within minutes of the reported shooting CNN had a police officer on calling for neurological screening for firearm purchases.  Witnesses report at least 100 rounds were fired inside of the school from 2 gunmen.  One of the gunmen was reported killed and the other was arrested in the woods just outside of the school. The one shooter in custody was reported to have multiple weapons and body armour according to fox news. CNN reports the gunman looked directly at one of the parents while being escorted to a police car and said "I DID NOT DO IT".  

The first shooter will no doubt be dubbed the lone shooter, will be framed with the 3 name mind control tag, and paraded on the news as the lone nut as the military psy ops land a direct hit on our second amendment. There will no doubt be more shootings to frame gun owning americans as Fox News leaves us with the premonition stating "..unfortunately when these kindergarten shootings get started THERE WILL BE OTHERS".

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: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Byrne0ut December 14, 2012, 02:10:32 PM
There is no way somebody did this much damage with 2 handguns. Firing over 100 shots at 3 people would have taken multiple reloads with any semi-auto handgun on the market.
I am praying for all of the families of those who lost their lives.
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: Byrne0ut December 14, 2012, 02:12:15 PM
also they will probably come out saying he was high on marijuana when the shooting happened. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Ban handguns and sway the popular opinion on marijuana legalization.
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: stymo1 December 14, 2012, 02:12:21 PM
There is no way somebody did this much damage with 2 handguns. Firing over 100 shots at 3 people would have taken multiple reloads with any semi-auto handgun on the market.
I am praying for all of the families of those who lost their lives.

They are now saying he carried a .223 rifle also.

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/ (http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-shooting-at-connecticut-elementary-school/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-shooting-at-connecticut-elementary-school/)
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: Byrne0ut December 14, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
They are now saying he carried a .223 rifle also.

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/ (http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-shooting-at-connecticut-elementary-school/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-shooting-at-connecticut-elementary-school/)

ok well that makes more sense
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/us/2012/12/14/sot-shooting-witness.cnn
3rd grader describes shooting from class

THIS FATHER SHOULD BE IN TEARS AND NOT CALM!  I would be
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 14, 2012, 02:20:57 PM
How 'bout that Fiscal Cliff  Huh? Worried about that now?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
Timeline: School violence in the U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/us/timeline-school-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: stymo1 December 14, 2012, 02:35:26 PM
Newtown, Conn. School District Had Recently Installed New Safety Protocols

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/newtown-conn-school-district-had-recently-installed-new-safety-protocols/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/newtown-conn-school-district-had-recently-installed-new-safety-protocols/)

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — In the wake of the tragic school shooting in Newtown, Conn., that left more than two dozen people dead, including 18 children, CBS 2 has learned the school district had just installed a new safety policy designed to prevent situations such as what happened on Friday.

Photos: Newtown School Massacre

At approximately 9:41 a.m. a gunman opened fire inside Sandy Hook Elementary School. Early reports indicated one child and the gunman, who has not been identified yet, were killed, but later the horror of what actually took place started to come to the surface. It was later learned a second person connected to the massacre was taken into custody, but the specifics of who he is and how he was possibly connected to the tragedy were not immediately known.

The district took proactive measures to ensure the safety of students and faculty when it unveiled new safety protocols earlier in the school year, but it is unknown if school officials followed the new guidelines prior to the shooting.

Students were seen being escorted to a nearby firehouse in what was described as a very calm and controlled evacuation, a protocol that had been in place for some time, officials said. Hundreds of students and faculty members were reportedly met by dozens of emergency vehicles. Relieved parents then met their children at the firehouse and took them home, by car and even by foot.

CBS 2 has obtained the letter sent home to parents describing the new safety protocols:

Dear Members of our Sandy Hook Family,

Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry. Visitors will still be required to report directly to the office and sign in. If our office staff does not recognize you, you will be required to show identification with a picture id. Please understand that with nearly 700 students and over 1000 parents representing 500 SHS families, most parents will be asked to show identification.

Doors will be locked at approximately 9:30 a.m. Any student arriving after that time must be walked into the building and signed in at the office. Before that time our regular drop-off procedures will be in place. I encourage all parents to have their children come to school and return home on the bus and to remain in school for the entire school day. The beginning and ending of our school day are also important instructional times and therefore we want all our students to reap the benefits of full participation in our program.

We need your help and cooperation for our system to work effectively. Our office staff is handling multiple tasks. Though they will work diligently to help you into the building as quickly as possible, there may be a short delay until someone can view you on the handset and allow you to come in electronically. There are times during the day when office personnel are on the telephone, addressing student concerns, or in the copy room; there are other times when only one person is in the front office. Please help our staff by identifying yourself and provide your child’s name.

Keep in mind we will be following our district guidelines which may need revision once we test the system.

Please know your involvement continues to be critical to our school’s effectiveness and your child’s success. We continue to encourage and value your presence in our classrooms and are counting on your cooperation with the implementation of this safety initiative.

Sincerely,

Mrs. Hochsprung


It is unclear how the shooter, reportedly armed with two semi-automatic handguns, gained access to the school or if he showed identification, or if he had entered prior to the 9:30 a.m. doors-locked mandate. It is also unclear how the shooter gained access to the school halls and classrooms.
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: Sasha December 14, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
Is this the dead gunmen:  Ryan Lanza, 24 Sandy Hook, CT?
mylife (http://s1.mylife.com/c-103234265698)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: stymo1 December 14, 2012, 02:38:23 PM
Is this the dead gunmen:  Ryan Lanza, 24 Sandy Hook, CT?
mylife (http://s1.mylife.com/c-103234265698)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooter-identified_n_2301764.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooter-identified_n_2301764.html)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
People are saying this Ryan Lanza is the wrong guy???

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-GU_PwCUAAQgFA.png:large)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: CheneysWorstNightmare December 14, 2012, 02:40:13 PM
Ryan Lanza's facebook????

http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?ref=ts&fref=ts
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: donnay December 14, 2012, 02:40:50 PM
And if any of the teachers had a gun in a locked draw ?



Never!  Not with the Zero Tolerance.


This is so very tragic!
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: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
Well if he is still posting on facebook, and he is not dead, then it aint him
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: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 02:53:23 PM

Never!  Not with the Zero Tolerance.


This is so very tragic!

Perhaps Obama ought try and force more parents to do HomeSchooling as the solution to these school shootings...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 02:54:59 PM
IF this server gets overloaded,
Do not Panic
we have a BACKUP FORUM
http://forum.globalgulag.com
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Valerius December 14, 2012, 02:57:38 PM


"Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China"

By Terril Yue Jones
 
Reuters

Copyright © 2012, Reuters


http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-china-stabbingsbre8bd065-20121213,0,5592318.story
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 02:59:17 PM
FOX news is reporting a possible second shooter, wearing camo and body armour is in custody.

I heard this on CNN also. they said he had black jacket and camp pants and caught and arrested in woods nearby!

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 14, 2012, 03:01:41 PM
You notice how they cut the camera and audio on that kid as soon as he started talking about the guy on the ground in hand cuffs. Reports of multiple shooters all morning, CNN trying to spin it to just 1 shooter.  Already calling for gun control. 

I heard this on CNN also. they said he had black jacket and camp pants and caught and arrested in woods nearby!

They always release the second shooter... and escort him safely away from the scene,,,
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:05:34 PM
There're two Ryan Lanza's in Newtown, Conn. that are in there 20's?  One online and tweeting, the other the dead gunman?

The population was 27,560 at the 2010 census - wiki


Local CBS/ABC just reported that the kids thought it was a drill for the first few hours,...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 03:06:20 PM
Ryan Lanza's facebook????

http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?ref=ts&fref=ts

The page you requested was not found.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 03:07:18 PM
I have a forum up and running too with a post on this.
http://consfearacynewz.weebly.com/forums.html#/20121214/official-27-dead-in-conn-school-shooting-2102031/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
CNN saying the shooter killed his mother who was teacher at the school!


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
Update: AP reports police have Ryan Lanza’s brother in custody, but unclear whether it’s just to gather information or as connected in some way.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/14/shooter-identified-in-connecticut-shooting-may-have-targeted-his-teacher-mother/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/14/shooter-identified-in-connecticut-shooting-may-have-targeted-his-teacher-mother/)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 03:09:01 PM
ITS HAPPENED BEFORE
IT ENDED WITH TOTAL BAN ON HANDGUNS


Dunblane

Enters school aged 5-10 with 4 Handguns
Finishes Mind Control by Suicide

RESULT
Handguns Banned


Evidence of previous police interaction with Hamilton was presented to the Cullen Inquiry

but

later sealed under a closure order
to prevent publication
for 100 years.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 03:09:31 PM
The PA was tripped inside the principles office where the scuffle started...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 14, 2012, 03:12:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre
The Dunblane school massacre occurred at Dunblane Primary School in the Scottish town of Dunblane on 13 March 1996. The gunman, 43-year-old Thomas Hamilton (b. 10 May 1952), entered the school armed with four handguns, shooting and killing sixteen children and one adult before committing suicide. Along with the 1987 Hungerford massacre and the 2010 Cumbria shootings, it remains one of the worst criminal acts involving firearms in the history of the United Kingdom.
 
Public debate subsequent to these events centred on gun-control laws, including media-driven public petitions calling for a ban on private ownership of handguns and an official enquiry, the Cullen Report. In response to this debate, the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997 and the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997 were enacted, which effectively made private ownership of handguns illegal in the United Kingdom.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 03:16:04 PM
A Live link
http://www.livestream.com/foxct


Obama on now!

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:16:31 PM
cbs/abc local:  father is dead at his home, mother was kindergarten teacher, brother is in custody and he survived,... "survived" as in he escaped death, and is not in custody for being the guy in camo in the woods presumably
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 03:18:18 PM
As if by magic, Six weeks after the Dunblane massacre in Scotland, they had The Port Arthur massacre in Australia leading to there GUN BAN
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:23:57 PM
CNN just reported that the brother was found dead in the home, now.

Brother went from police custody to dead, probably bad reporting, or the confusion of the situation, but still,... keeping track of the facts here is paramount.
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: empire December 14, 2012, 03:27:34 PM
CNN just reported that the brother was found dead in the home, now.

Brother went from police custody to dead.

What the **** is going on here ???
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: Blowback December 14, 2012, 03:29:53 PM
Obama on TV crying crocodile tears.  Makes me f**king sick....
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: shipgeek December 14, 2012, 03:31:15 PM
Why would somebody go on a shooting rampage in an elementary school?

This is fishy.

 :o
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:32:07 PM
What the **** is going on here ???

I wish I knew.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:33:54 PM
Dr. Drew on CNN with Wolf Blitzer having a mental ilness pow-wow about national means of preventing people from being evil.

"Time for our government and our culture to act like a family."

Self defense classes shouldn't be allowed becacause it empowers people and could be dangerous to the cultural family.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 03:34:39 PM
What the **** is going on here ???


Parents were divorced! Just another piece of the puzzle! Sounding like a family in turmoil and kid acting out in a disastrous way!
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: All4truth December 14, 2012, 03:35:27 PM
I wish I knew.

Wasn't he trying to kill his mother?  I think I read that somewhere.  Probably was on some psycho drugs too.
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: Libertarian Perspective December 14, 2012, 03:36:10 PM
Let me guess, this school as probably part of a gun free zone, where law abiding citizens are not allowed to bring firearms in. I guess criminals don-t respect these gun free zones. So sad when innocent people are slaughtered for the globalists.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: lee51 December 14, 2012, 03:38:45 PM
the Daily Mail says it was Ryan Lanza---

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:42:04 PM
Wasn't he trying to kill his mother?  I think I read that somewhere.  Probably was on some psycho drugs too.

Yes, many basic facts have been corroberated, but that's only leading to more questions.  If you can find a link to the psychoactive drug use that would be important - haven't seen it yet but his behavior tends to suggest something like that.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:45:29 PM
Adam Lanza,...

Newtown Shooter Identified As Ryan Lanza From New Jersey
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/14/2012 14:23 -0500
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-14/newtown-shooter-identified-ryan-lanza-new-jersey (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-14/newtown-shooter-identified-ryan-lanza-new-jersey)
 
Update 2: the reason for the confusion is that the first name reported today by CNN and promptly carried by the rest of the media, Ryan Lanza, may be incorrect, and is in fact Adam Lanza. At this point until the police correctly identify the suspect it is probably best to ignore all further updates from CNN or otherwise on the matter.

Update: there is confusion as to whether this is indeed the correct Lanza or not. As The Inquisitor reports:

A screenshot circulating on Twitter purports to have recent updates from Lanza denying a connection to the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting:
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/438676/ryan-lanza-idd-as-newtown-school-shooting-gunman/#gTP0EJQ5A8XYcLBE.99
* * *

The shooter has been idenitifed by CNN as one Ryan Lanza, 24, out of New Jersey. A quick Facebook scan has identified one Mr. Ryan Lanza in the 18-24 year old age group, out of Hoboken, NJ who lists Newtown, CT as his home city. There is one unconfirmed account of a suspect born in Newtown, CT and currently living in Hoboken, NJ, although it appears it is not the suspect in question. The mother of the suspect was a teacher at the Sandy Hook school, and she is among the dead.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 03:47:42 PM
Newton Shooter's Brother and Mother Found Dea

(http://www.infosalvo.com/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/amomshooter.fc500e0b56e859f741003a5a781506b1339.png)

More than two dozen people, including as many as 18 children, have been killed during a school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut outside of New York City early Friday.

According to preliminary reports, at least one gunman opened fire inside of an office at Shady Hook Elementary at around 9:40 a.m. Friday. Police have verified that the suspected shooter has been found dead on the scene while other reports, still unverified, cite the possibility of a second shooter. Police have a second person in custody but have not confirmed any charges.

Read More...
http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-shooters-brother-and-mother-found-dead/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 14, 2012, 03:49:29 PM
Let me guess, this school as probably part of a gun free zone, where law abiding citizens are not allowed to bring firearms in. I guess criminals don-t respect these gun free zones. So sad when innocent people are slaughtered for the globalists.

fyi - Connecticut is the Illuminati homeland.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:51:00 PM
Dr Drew is teary eyed on CNN, "we must require people with violent tendencies to get help,..."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 03:53:20 PM
Dr Drew CNN:  "...if someone is aware of someone who is suffering you should use law enforcement, and mental health.  They are not punative.  They are there to help."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 03:55:45 PM
Obama on TV crying crocodile tears.  Makes me f**king sick....


I wonder if Obama has those same tears in his eyes when his drones and UN/Nato run armies using US soldiers kill innocent children overseas in all these preemptive, agenda ridden wars he continues? If he is being sincere today with his tears, he should be crying for ALL OF THEM!

Wonder why kids get the idea its okay to kill? LOOK AT THE ENDLESS WARS SINCE IRAQ? OBAMA AND ALL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS NEED TO OWN PART OF THIS KILLING CULTURE! THEY SAY ITS OKAY THEMSELVES! DON'T BLAME IT ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND USE THIS TO END THE 2ND AMENDMENT! OFFICIALS HAVE NOT BEEN AN EXAMPLE TO OUR KIDS!




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: All4truth December 14, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
I'm following the live blog on huttingpost this was just put up.

here's the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/ryan-lanza-connecticut-elementary-shooter_n_2302541.html

WCBS-TV: CBS News learns gunman in Connecticut school shooting died from self-inflicted gunshot wound
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: All4truth December 14, 2012, 03:58:39 PM
more from the blog:

From CNN Justice Prod Terry Frieden: Sr law enforcement official familiar w/investigation says Ryan Lanza's brother found dead in Hoboken
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Brocke December 14, 2012, 03:59:41 PM
As if by magic, Six weeks after the Dunblane massacre in Scotland, they had The Port Arthur massacre in Australia leading to there GUN BAN


In December 1988 New South Wales Premier, Barry Unsworth stated the following at a Special Premier's meeting called in Hobart, where National Firearms Laws were the agenda.

"There will never be uniform gun laws in Australia until we see a massacre in Tasmania."

Study up on what has happened at Port Arthur and to firearms ownership in Australia folks. The U.S. is falling into lockstep behind Australia. 90% of the Australians I speak to are terrified of firearms.


Australia Post building in Queen Street shootings on the 8th December 1987
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=108452.msg664747#msg664747




15 Facts About The Port Arthur Massacre You NEED To Know
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=27092.0

Port Arthur was an inside job!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=77199.0

Alex. Please expose The Port Arthur False Flag Massacre & war on guns Down Under
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=108452.0

Australia - Port Arthur Masscre -False flag that disarmed Australia.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=107447.0

Port Arthur Masscre the Disarmament of Australia.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=185671.0

Port Arthur massacre Australian Army SAS shooter revealed
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=225637.0

Alex check out the similarities of Oslo and The Port Arthur Massacre Australia!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=213202.0

perfectly times "leak" police training video on port Arthur
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=213764.0
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
Adam Lanza: Suspect in school shooting in Connecticut
Posted on: 1:33 pm, December 14, 2012,
by Scott Gustin, updated on: 03:55pm, December 14, 2012
http://myfox8.com/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-suspect-is-20-year-old-with-ties-to-school/ (http://myfox8.com/2012/12/14/elementary-school-shooting-suspect-is-20-year-old-with-ties-to-school/)


WASHINGTON — Fox News is reporting the shooter in the Connecticut elementary school has been identified as Adam Lanza, 20.
 
Law enforcement initially said the shooter was 24-year-old Ryan Lanza, however Fox News said the shooter is Ryan Lanza’s brother, Adam Lanza.
 
Adam Lanza, 20, shot his mother dead and targeted her kindergarten class at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., sources sais. Sources also told The Post that Lanza’s mother was a teacher at the school and he “had a dispute with her.”
 
Police in Hoboken, NJ are questioning Lanza’s older brother Ryan, 24, but he is not a suspect.
 
According to CNN, the suspect’s mother is a teacher at the school and is among those dead.
 
An official said that a gun used in the attacks is a .223-caliber rifle. The official also said that New Jersey state police are searching a location in that state in connection with the shootings, said by an official in Connecticut to have left 27 dead, including 18 children.
 
The official in Washington spoke on the condition of anonymity because the source was not authorized to speak on the record about the developing criminal investigation.
 
At least 27 people were killed on Friday when a shooter allegedly opened fire inside an elementary school in Connecticut, according to the Associated Press.
 
18 of those victims are children.
 
An official, speaking on condition of anonymity for the same reason, told the Associated Press the gunman is among the dead.
 
The killings happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City.
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: TahoeBlue December 14, 2012, 04:04:00 PM
http://www.nowthisnews.com/news/nancy-pelosi-fiscal-cliff-stuff-getting-boring/
Posted: 12/13/2012
Nancy Pelosi: This Fiscal Cliff Stuff Is Getting Boring
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 04:06:40 PM
WTF HOSP was told ahead of time to prep for a mass shooting.  they just said that on the feed.

http://www.livestream.com/foxct
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: poncho December 14, 2012, 04:08:20 PM
WTF HOSP was told ahead of time to prep for a mass shooting.  they just said that on the feed.

http://www.livestream.com/foxct

Need someone in the info community near there to interview the hospital staff ASAP.  (Before they are told to never talk.)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: poncho December 14, 2012, 04:10:06 PM
They are going to push for the banning of gun sales to anyone under the age of 26 (or some other age number.)

This new shooter is age 24 (so they said)
The mall shooter was age 22.
The NFL player was age 25.

One white person, one black person, one hispanic person, all shooters.
They had no priors, but all are young!
Hence why the Bob Costas push of young people not being able to handle guns on national TV.  Costas was foreshadowing the events of this week more than the NFL shooting.  He put it there in people's minds, so that this will reaffirm that he is right.
---
If you strip the liberties all at once people riot.  But take them away, one by one, they are ok with it.  In this case, the right to carry weapons is slowly being taken away...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Geolibertarian December 14, 2012, 04:11:08 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/ (http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/)

25 years murder-free in 'Gun Town USA'
Crime rate plummeted after law required firearms for residents

WorldNetDaily
April 19, 2007

As the nation debates whether more guns or fewer can prevent tragedies like the Virginia Tech Massacre, a notable anniversary passed last month in a Georgia town that witnessed a dramatic plunge in crime and violence after mandating residents to own firearms.

In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of "Wild West" showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.

By comparison, the population of Morton Grove, the first city in Illinois to adopt a gun ban for anyone other than police officers, has actually dropped slightly and stands at 22,202, according to 2005 statistics. More significantly, perhaps, the city's crime rate increased by 15.7 percent immediately after the gun ban, even though the overall crime rate in Cook County rose only 3 percent. Today, by comparison, the township's crime rate stands at 2,268 per 100,000.

This was not what some predicted.

[Continued... (http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/)]


https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm (https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm)

Fact Sheet: Guns Save Lives

A. Guns save more lives than they take; prevent more injuries than they inflict

* Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.

* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.

* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.

* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.

* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606). And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The 'error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."

* Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year. Many of these self-defense handguns could be labeled as "Saturday Night Specials."


B. Concealed carry laws help reduce crime

* Nationwide: one-half million self-defense uses. Every year, as many as one-half million citizens defend themselves with a firearm away from home.

* Concealed carry laws are dropping crime rates across the country. A comprehensive national study determined in 1996 that violent crime fell after states made it legal to carry concealed firearms. The results of the study showed:


* Vermont: one of the safest five states in the country. In Vermont, citizens can carry a firearm without getting permission... without paying a fee... or without going through any kind of government-imposed waiting period. And yet for ten years in a row, Vermont has remained one of the top-five, safest states in the union -- having three times received the "Safest State Award."

* Florida: concealed carry helps slash the murder rates in the state. In the fifteen years following the passage of Florida's concealed carry law in 1987, over 800,000 permits to carry firearms were issued to people in the state. FBI reports show that the homicide rate in Florida, which in 1987 was much higher than the national average, fell 52% during that 15-year period -- thus putting the Florida rate below the national average.

* Do firearms carry laws result in chaos? No. Consider the case of Florida. A citizen in the Sunshine State is far more likely to be attacked by an alligator than to be assaulted by a concealed carry holder.



C. Criminals avoid armed citizens

* Kennesaw, GA. In 1982, this suburb of Atlanta passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89% in Kennesaw, compared to the modest 10.4% drop in Georgia as a whole.

* Ten years later (1991), the residential burglary rate in Kennesaw was still 72% lower than it had been in 1981, before the law was passed.

[Continued... (https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm)]

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(http://bks1.books.google.com/books?id=K6dIvTFsDMkC&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&sig=ACfU3U0ayu-4BRdaFuHRyeDVDnMSNQoQ7g) (http://books.google.com/books?id=K6dIvTFsDMkC)

http://guncite.com (http://guncite.com)
http://www.gunfacts.info/ (http://www.gunfacts.info/)
http://www.constitution.org/cmt/cramer/racist_roots.htm (http://www.constitution.org/cmt/cramer/racist_roots.htm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAU9AJfttls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAU9AJfttls) (Innocents Betrayed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iQPKT9teck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iQPKT9teck) (No Guns for Negroes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XrNzE39J8E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XrNzE39J8E) (Penn & Teller - Gun Control)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 04:11:33 PM
WTF HOSP was told ahead of time to prep for a mass shooting.  they just said that on the feed.

http://www.livestream.com/foxct

/me  chokes on his chips

WOT ?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 14, 2012, 04:13:17 PM
Did FOX News REALLY say this? I need a source for this...

Fox News leaves us with the premonition stating "..unfortunately when these kindergarten shootings get started THERE WILL BE OTHERS".

Thanks!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: All4truth December 14, 2012, 04:19:43 PM
NYC Mayor's Office Tweets About Gun Control

    
@ NYCMayorsOffice: President Obama rightly sent his heartfelt condolences to the families in Newtown. But the country needs him to send a bill to Congress.

    @ NYCMayorsOffice : We heard after Columbine that it was too soon to talk about gun laws. We heard it after VTech, Tucson & Aurora. Now we are hearing it again.

    @ NYCMayorsOffice : For every day we wait, 34 more people are murdered with guns. Today, many of them were five-year olds.

    @ NYCMayorsOffice : We have heard all the rhetoric before. What we have not seen is leadership–not from the White House, not from Congress. That must end today.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: madasheck December 14, 2012, 04:20:55 PM
Well, I guess Belafonte's wish of putting people who oppose Obama in "jail" will soon advance one step further, huh?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Geolibertarian December 14, 2012, 04:24:03 PM
(http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/gun_control3.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mfztu4A81SE/T_nBldnroSI/AAAAAAAAAHI/7jZFVIFSl8Y/s1600/Gun%25252Bcontrol2.jpeg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 14, 2012, 04:26:33 PM
Social media networking, again... ::)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gun-control-debate-erupts-twitter-195914529.html
Gun control debate erupts on Twitter

The horrific shooting at the Newtown, Conn., elementary school that left multiple people dead, including, it's believed, 20 children, has re-ignited the gun control debate. Commenters took to Twitter to express their views, pro and con.
 
Trending topics on Twitter included "2nd Amendment," "NRA" and "Columbine"—a reference to the mass shooting at Columbine High School in Columbine, Colo., in 1999.
 
Ross McCall ‏(@maccageezer) wrote, "Senseless. The 2nd Amendment is NOT what it was originally set up to be. HAS to be more gun control."
 
Daniel Stewart ‏@dnstewart67 tweeted, "Any American who would prefer to see this on their TV rather than lose the 2nd amendment have no humanity. Sheer horror."
 
Comedian Sarah Silverman (@SarahKSilverman) wrote, "Band-Aids-on-Band-Aids @NRA people want MORE access to guns to combat all the people w access to guns."
 
Mediaite tweeted about MSNBC host's Andrea Mitchell's editorializing on air, who said, "When we talk about gun violence in this country, we're not talking about Second Amendment rights." She also called gun violence an "epidemic."
 
Filmmaker Michael Moore (@MMFlint), who made a documentary about the Columbine school shooting, "Bowling for Columbine," tweeted,‏ "Too soon to speak out about a gun-crazy nation? No, too late. At least THIRTY-ONE school shootings since Columbine."
 
Assif Manvi (@aasif) of "The Daily Show,"  posted, "The #NRA politicians will now tell us that this tragedy could have been prevented if children carried guns! #WAKEUPAMERICA."
 
Plenty of people also defended gun rights. SamEwinks (‏@SamEwinks), for instance, wrote, "The only gun reform we need is to allow people the ability to defend themselves, not provide nut jobs with easy targets #nra."
 
josefsmith2011 (@josefsmith2011) posted, "Guns don't kill people people do! Practice the 2nd amendment—keep your gun loaded with you at all times—the younger you are the better."
 
And Cutty (@LilCutty) tweeted, "Changing the 2nd Amendment wont stop ppl from doin foolishness."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 04:26:52 PM
comparing it to 9/11 now  calling it a terrorist attack.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Geolibertarian December 14, 2012, 04:27:41 PM
(http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/s_racist.jpg)

(http://myconstructedreality.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/dredscott2.jpg)

(http://gullyborg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/s_protects.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/fladj11/RKBA/GirlGunControl.jpg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 04:29:58 PM
Since the slime stream media is angling in on mental illness and violent tendencies as preventive measures for the right to bear arms, I wonder if they'll equally apply their criticism for the use of torture, drones, false-flag pretexted unconstitutional wars, mandated vaccines, GMOs or about gun running and destabilizing dozens of countries, and murdering 250+ million people over the past hundred years plus,...

when do we get to sent the NWO to the shrink?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 04:33:45 PM
Michael Moore Calls For “Strict Gun Control” After School Massacre

Piers Morgan implies that all handguns should be banned

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 14, 2012
 (http://www.infowars.com/michael-moore-calls-for-strict-gun-control-after-school-massacre/)

Film maker Michael Moore quickly seized upon the tragic school massacre in Connecticut to call for “strict gun control,” while CNN host Piers Morgan implied that all handguns should be banned.

The way to honor these dead children is to demand strict gun control, free mental health care, and an end to violence as public policy.

Michael Moore


Liberal talking heads wasted no time at all in exploiting the horrendous events this morning at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, where 18 children were amongst the 27 killed, to push their political agenda.

“The way to honor these dead children is to demand strict gun control, free mental health care, and an end to violence as public policy,” tweeted Michael Moore, whose 2002 film Bowling For Columbine was a poster child for firearms regulation.

CNN host Piers Morgan implied that even handguns should be banned in America when he tweeted, “This is America’s Dunblane. We banned handguns in Britain after that appalling tragedy. What will the U.S. do? Inaction not an option.”

However, Morgan is seemingly ignorant of the fact that the decision to ban handguns in Britain did nothing to lower gun crime. In the six years following the ban, gun crime more than doubled.

“Nothing happened after Aurora, now it MUST,” Morgan preached in a subsequent tweet, adding, “This is now President Obama’s biggest test – will he have the courage to stand up to the American gun lobby?”

Morgan also recently went on the offensive against the Second Amendment in the aftermath of the murder/suicide involving Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, remarking that it was, “Quite incredible that Bob Costas makes an impassioned plea for less handguns, and Americans go crazy with indignation. He’s 100% right.”

Given the recent all time record high in Black Friday gun sales amidst fears that Barack Obama will use his lame duck term to take a bite out of the second amendment, today’s tragedy in Connecticut is only likely to spur more firearms purchases by law-abiding Americans. Following the July ‘Batman massacre’ in Aurora Colorado, gun sales spiked by almost double normal figures.

*********************

Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: stymo1 December 14, 2012, 04:38:23 PM
"Never let a crisis go to waste......."

Imagine all the possibilities this crisis could create. We are coming up on the holiday season. It will be interesting to see what's passed by the 5-10 people who show up to vote on "whatever" during the upcoming surprise sessions held while the vast majority of the house and senate are home on vacation over Christmas & new years... 

Gun control laws, or out right banning of some if not all types.
TSA at every school, mall, stadium.
VIPR posts at or near school zones.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: A Dissident December 14, 2012, 04:40:07 PM
The initial reports of a second gunman are, of course, disappearing now. It is being replaced with "a lone gunman" (http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/14/nbc-news-26-dead-in-newtown-ct-elementary-school-shooting/) who was later found dead. There is no evidence or eyewitness testimony suggesting "suicide", although I'm sure that's what they will say.

However, more than three guns were found on the alleged shooter's body and in the car. Furthermore, it is being reported that the shooting occurred in three different locations of the school, and the death toll certainly was high. These facts tend to support the possibility that the initial reports were correct and that there was a second assailant.

Another crucial question is how the assailant was even able to enter the school. The main doors are locked during classes, and they had recently implemented new safety measures. How did a man wearing military garb and a bulletproof vest manage to enter? Also, wasn't a "suspect with a bulletproof vest" the initial report in the Portland mall shooting?  

The Mayor of Danbury, Connecticut said:

"We're drilling all the time, practicing all the time for these events"

Was this shooting carried out under the guise of such a drill? Such might help to explain how the assailant entered the building.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 04:43:00 PM
Did FOX News REALLY say this? I need a source for this...

Fox News leaves us with the premonition stating "..unfortunately when these kindergarten shootings get started THERE WILL BE OTHERS".

Thanks!

heard it on the live feed
http://www.livestream.com/foxct
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Spark of Truth Inc. December 14, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
What a mess. I can't help but the name is Sandy-Hook? We'll hear a lot of this name and it reminds me of the unusual 90 degree turn superstorm Sandy did when making landfall?!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 04:47:30 PM
Fox Newtown Conn local feed:  Bo Mitchell:  "This has happened before, it will happen again."

He sounds like Dr Drew.  Report just about anything to supervisor or "we'll have tragic circumstances like today..."

He went on saying roughly, we have to make our campuses and workplaces like sanctuaries, like its supposed to be under Feredal Law.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 04:49:37 PM
 Law enforcement sources told FoxNews.com the shooter was Lanza. His brother, Ryan Lanza, 24, was in custody, but it was not sure if he faced charges. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-shooting-at-connecticut-elementary-school/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 14, 2012, 04:51:07 PM
Curiouser and curiouser: Shooter carrying other person's ID, left 2 more guns in car (http://www.legitgov.org/Shooter-carrying-other-persons-ID-left-2-more-guns-car) --'We're drilling all the time, practicing all the time for these events' -Mayor of Danbury, CT --'New school safety measures' had been implemented--and yet, a man dressed in military garb will a bullet-proof vest gained entrance? --Shooting took place at three diffrerent locations inside the school 14 Dec 2012

http://www.legitgov.org/Shooter-carrying-other-persons-ID-left-2-more-guns-car
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 14, 2012, 04:53:30 PM
Newtown, Conn. School District Had Recently Installed New Safety Protocols

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/...ety-protocols/

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — In the wake of the tragic school shooting in Newtown, Conn., that left more than two dozen people dead, including 18 children, CBS 2 has learned the school district had just installed a new safety policy designed to prevent situations such as what happened on Friday.

Photos: Newtown School Massacre

At approximately 9:41 a.m. a gunman opened fire inside Sandy Hook Elementary School. Early reports indicated one child and the gunman, who has not been identified yet, were killed, but later the horror of what actually took place started to come to the surface. It was later learned a second person connected to the massacre was taken into custody, but the specifics of who he is and how he was possibly connected to the tragedy were not immediately known.

The district took proactive measures to ensure the safety of students and faculty when it unveiled new safety protocols earlier in the school year, but it is unknown if school officials followed the new guidelines prior to the shooting.

Students were seen being escorted to a nearby firehouse in what was described as a very calm and controlled evacuation, a protocol that had been in place for some time, officials said. Hundreds of students and faculty members were reportedly met by dozens of emergency vehicles. Relieved parents then met their children at the firehouse and took them home, by car and even by foot.

CBS 2 has obtained the letter sent home to parents describing the new safety protocols:

Dear Members of our Sandy Hook Family,

Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry. Visitors will still be required to report directly to the office and sign in. If our office staff does not recognize you, you will be required to show identification with a picture id. Please understand that with nearly 700 students and over 1000 parents representing 500 SHS families, most parents will be asked to show identification.

Doors will be locked at approximately 9:30 a.m. Any student arriving after that time must be walked into the building and signed in at the office. Before that time our regular drop-off procedures will be in place. I encourage all parents to have their children come to school and return home on the bus and to remain in school for the entire school day. The beginning and ending of our school day are also important instructional times and therefore we want all our students to reap the benefits of full participation in our program.

We need your help and cooperation for our system to work effectively. Our office staff is handling multiple tasks. Though they will work diligently to help you into the building as quickly as possible, there may be a short delay until someone can view you on the handset and allow you to come in electronically. There are times during the day when office personnel are on the telephone, addressing student concerns, or in the copy room; there are other times when only one person is in the front office. Please help our staff by identifying yourself and provide your child’s name.

Keep in mind we will be following our district guidelines which may need revision once we test the system.

Please know your involvement continues to be critical to our school’s effectiveness and your child’s success. We continue to encourage and value your presence in our classrooms and are counting on your cooperation with the implementation of this safety initiative.

Sincerely,

Mrs. Hochsprung
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 14, 2012, 04:54:19 PM
http://collider.com/mel-gibson-machete-2-sequel/161435/
(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/machete-danny-trejo-image-600x401.jpg) - April 23rd, 2012
Director Robert Rodriguez pulled no punches when he said he wanted star power, in the form of Michelle Williams and Mel Gibson, for his sequel, Machete Kills.

The sequel, Machete Kills, features the return of Trejo as the title character, who is recruited by the U.S. Government and tasked with tracking an arms dealer through Mexico before he can launch a rocket attack.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: stymo1 December 14, 2012, 04:56:46 PM
-Mayor of Danbury, CT --'New school safety measures' had been implemented--and yet, a man dressed in military garb will a bullet-proof vest gained entrance?

Thats what I posted about earlier.....

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.msg1390310#msg1390310 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.msg1390310#msg1390310)

There was no way the guy got in the building dressed in a military vest, let alone carrying four weapons........ just sayin.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Monkeypox December 14, 2012, 04:59:39 PM
They WILL be coming after guns now after these recent shootings.  No doubt.

Get ready.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 05:07:16 PM
Newtown, Conn. School District Had Recently Installed New Safety Protocols

At approximately 9:41 a.m. a gunman opened fire inside Sandy Hook Elementary School. Early reports indicated one child and the gunman, who has not been identified yet, were killed, but later the horror of what actually took place started to come to the surface.


Doors will be locked at approximately 9:30 a.m. Any student arriving after that time must be walked into the building and signed in at the office. Before that time our regular drop-off procedures will be in place.


Again, this could be reporting errors, or just confusing info but, state and local police descended on Sandy Hook Elementary School after a 911 call  (http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/20346017/reports-of-school-shooting-in-conn) at 9:30 a.m. Friday regarding a shooting.

By one report, there was an unprecidented statewide call for all on duty and off duty police officers to respond to the school too.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: A Dissident December 14, 2012, 05:10:55 PM
Now it is being said that the gunman was using someone else's identification. Perhaps that of his brother, Adam, who was also found dead. Is this case going to be rife with 'doubles' and 'doppelegangers', like the Kennedy assassination?

One interesting fact is that Newtown is where Sleepers, a 1995 film, is set. In it, four boys are subjected to horrific rape and abuse at the Wilkinson School for Boys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepers_(film)

"Sleeper" is another term for a mind controlled operative.

Another fact about Newtown is that it was the home of Richard Crafts, an airline pilot and special constable who brutally murdered his wife, Helle, on November 19, 1986, feeding her corpse into a wood chipper. Crafts, born on the eve of the Winter Solstice of 1934, was formerly a CIA operative who had been involved in covert activities in Indochina with Air America.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/family/woodchipper_murder/index.html

A very surreal shooting occurred outside of a school in Connecticut only months ago. A fifth-grade teacher spotted a black-clad, armed assailant, approached them, and shot them. It turned out to be the teacher's fifteen-year old son, who hadn't given his friends or acquaintances (who had spoken to him shortly before) any hint as to what he was going to do.
http://www.mail.com/news/us/1593082-conn-teacher-kills-masked-teen-learns-was-son.html#.23140-stage-mostviewed1-3

So murder, mystery, and weirdness hang over Connecticut.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 05:12:15 PM
heard him or brother may have had AUTISM
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Optimus December 14, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
Look at all the petitions the gun grabbers have started

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

we petition the obama administration to:
Today IS the day: Sponsor strict gun control laws in the wake of the CT school massacre
871  Signatures
Find out more
Start the process to enact Federal Gun control reforms.
974  Signatures
Find out more
Make Mental Health a National Emergency
632  Signatures
Find out more
begin a national conversation on sensible gun control.
1,511  Signatures
Find out more
create a national commission to review our gun laws and recommend legislation to address the epidemic of gun violence.
1,115  Signatures
Find out more
Set a date and time to have a conversation about gun policy in the United States.
5,471  Signatures
Find out more
Immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress.
12,049  Signatures
Find out more


/me sigh
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 05:14:39 PM
A Timeline of events at Newtown:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/comment-page-85/


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 05:15:03 PM
CNN’s Piers Morgan Calls for Immediate Handgun Ban as Gun Control Shills Seek to Exploit Mass Shooting Tradegy

By Alex Thomas
theintelhub.com
December 14, 2012

Just minutes after the news broke that a shooter in his 20′s had opened fire at an elementary school in Connecticut, noted gun control advocate and CNN primetime host Piers Morgan began tweeting calls for stricter gun control.

As most of the country set glued to their TV or computer screen watching the horror unfold on TV, Morgan began posting a series of tweets that, among other things, implied the need for an across the board handgun ban.

This is America’s Dunblane. We banned handguns in Britain after that appalling tragedy. What will the U.S. do? Inaction not an option.— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) December 14, 2012

The fact that the host of a CNN primetime show would openly call for the outright destruction of one of America’s most prized freedoms just goes to show how deep the bankster globalist take over goes.

Not wanting to stop after calling for what would amount to the end of the Second Amendment, Morgan, showing his complete disdain for everything American, then published a series of tweets that challenged Obama and others to EXPLOIT this tragedy to implement gun control.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan – White House spokesman Jay Carney’s right – today’s not the day to debate gun control. YESTERDAY was the day to debate it.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan – Don’t just mourn these poor dead children America – get angry and do something to stop these senseless shootings happening.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan - Any moment now, a gun nut will tweet me saying ‘If all the kids in that school had been armed, the shooters would have been stopped…’ (a clear-cut fallacy as no one would claim the kids need to be armed, rather the adults in the school should have been armed)

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan -Last 2yrs: movie theatres, shopping malls, temples, a congresswoman, now an elementary school – when will America deal with its gun madness?

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan - Another day, another horrific shooting – this time at an elementary school in Connecticut. America’s gun culture has to change.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan -This is now President Obama’s biggest test – will he have the courage to stand up to the American gun lobby?

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan -No more weasly words of ‘comfort’ Mr President. This is the latest, and worst, gun outrage on your watch. Time to act. #GunControl

As you can see, Morgan has absolutely no problem exploiting this horrible tragedy for his own political agenda which just so happens to include disarming the American people, a move that WILL, in turn, lead to many deaths as well as the possibility that our government could easily attack the people with little to no consequences.

The fact that there has been so many shootings in the last two years just as calls for gun control are gaining ground is simply too perfect to be a coincidence.

The gun control lobby and their globalist backers could very easily be using MK Ultra type mind control on the numerous “lone gunman” who have committed horrific acts of murder which are then used to call for the banning of firearms for law-abiding citizens.

The gun control that Piers Morgan and the rest of the out of control gun control lobby want would literally take guns out of YOUR hands and put them into the hands of criminals throughout the country. The fact of the matter is that criminals do not purchase guns legally and the vast majority of murders are NOT carried about by citizens who have guns registered in their own name.

While some of the past mass shooting lone gunman, including the Connecticut shooter, may have obtained their weapons legally, this doesn’t change the fact that law-abiding citizens have a god given right to legally purchase and have firearms that can’t be taken away or limited due to the actions of a very small minority.

It is also important to note that one of the main reasons we have a 2nd Amendment is because the BRITISH didn’t allow private gun ownership and, after fighting for and obtaining our freedom from the hands of the corrupt British Monarchy, our founding fathers KNEW it was very important that the public had the right to bare arms in the case that they were ever needed to fight back against an out of control government.

That’s right, we now have what many believe to be a British agent with a primetime show in America that has gone on the offensive against the US Constitution and the 2nd amendment in particular.

Although many Americans already consider CNN to be nothing more than a propaganda outlet, these tweets and startling call for a handgun ban by one of their primetime hosts directly shows that they are anything but unbiased in their pro-government, pro liberal coverage.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/14/cnns-piers-morgan-calls-for-immediate-handgun-ban-as-gun-control-shills-seek-to-exploit-mass-shooting-tradegy/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 05:15:42 PM
heard him or brother may have had AUTISM

...vaccine victims?

do you have a source?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 05:18:13 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-ct-school-shooting/
4:52 p.m: Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of  gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.”  Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 05:22:18 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-ct-school-shooting/
4:52 p.m: Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of  gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.”  Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

WOW.  Aspergers even?  Maybe vaccines.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
CNN’s Piers Morgan Calls for Immediate Handgun Ban as Gun Control Shills Seek to Exploit Mass Shooting Tradegy
Piers Morgan ...

While I know why we in england let him leave, its a mystery to me why you americans let him into the country.  ;D
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: A Dissident December 14, 2012, 05:24:08 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-ct-school-shooting/
4:52 p.m: Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of  gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.”  Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

A "personality disorder", huh? MPD/DID?

And obsessive compulsive tendencies can be an indication of mind control.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 05:26:09 PM
Another School Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? Federal Investigation Long Overdue
http://www.cchrint.org/2012/07/20/the-aurora-colorado-tragedy-another-senseless-shooting-another-psychotropic-drug/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: A Dissident December 14, 2012, 05:27:20 PM
Fairfield Hills State Hospital, Newtown

By Ray Bendici

The Damned Story: Opened in 1931 to help alleviate the overcrowding at other state mental hospitals, Fairfield Hills housed “mentally ill” (aka “the criminally insane”) patients from across the state. Built on over 770 bucolic acres, the 16 buildings — all connected by underground tunnels — were home to over 4,000 patients when filled to capacity. Like many of its patients, Fairfield Hills projected an outward image that seemed quite pleasing; what was happening inside behind closed doors and out of the public eye, however, was much darker and disturbing.

As you might expect, Fairfield Hills was like many hospitals in how the mentally ill were treated — with electric shock therapy, hydrotherapy, psychosurgery and frontal lobotomies, as well as a few suicides and “mysterious” deaths. Stories of abuse and cruelty were rampant. In short, it wasn’t a happy-smiley, fluffy-kitty and shiny-rainbow type of place.

With less and less patients being treated there, Fairfield Hills was closed by the state in 1995. And that’s when it seems the troubles began.

Because of its classic stately hospital look (red brick buildings, tall white columns, etc.), and its long, cruel history, it was used as a setting for the movie Sleepers as well as for MTV’s “Fear.” And as any abandoned mental hospital that’s been on TV will do, it’s brought a bevvy of paranormal investigators, psychics, abandoned-site explorers and other trouble seekers, who have claimed to have found evidence of hauntings, although no specific ghost/spirit/story is synonymous with the place.

Old hospital, underground tunnels, cruel history — must be haunted, right? Right? As with many hauntings, no definitive proof or evidence, just a lot of odd experiences and unusual claims.

If you’re interested in reading more, there’s an interesting site — fairfieldhills.com — that seems to have a lot of history of the site, along with numerous images, plus interviews with former employees and patients.

Our Damned Experience: Are the Hills alive with the sound of patients past? We have yet to be checked in for an examination.

If You Go: After so much national exposure, Fairfield Hills has drawn a little too much interest from aspiring paranormal groups and locals just looking to get into trouble, so the town of Newtown now actively and stridently patrols and enforces the “No Trespassing” rules, and are very quick to arrest. So don’t go.

http://www.damnedct.com/fairfield-hills-state-hospital-newtown/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 05:28:04 PM
Curiouser and curiouser: Shooter carrying other person's ID, left 2 more guns in car (http://www.legitgov.org/Shooter-carrying-other-persons-ID-left-2-more-guns-car) --'We're drilling all the time, practising all the time for these events' -Mayor of Danbury, CT --'New school safety measures' had been implemented--and yet, a man dressed in military garb will a bullet-proof vest gained entrance? --Shooting took place at three different locations inside the school 14 Dec 2012

http://www.legitgov.org/Shooter-carrying-other-persons-ID-left-2-more-guns-car

Odd.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 14, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
What a mess. I can't help but the name is Sandy-Hook? We'll hear a lot of this name and it reminds me of the unusual 90 degree turn superstorm Sandy did when making landfall?!

Now that is interesting
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 05:28:48 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-ct-school-shooting/
4:52 p.m: Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of  gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.”  Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

We can almost be certain with a 'personality disorder' he's on SSRIs or some other mood-lucination drugs, if not several others as well to supress the symptoms the Autism/Aspergers.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Optimus December 14, 2012, 05:34:46 PM
911 is their big code

27 dead 2+7=9

12-14-12 = 11

1+2+1+4+1+2 = 11

It's also 11 days before Christmas.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 05:35:01 PM
Politicians Call Connecticut Shooting ‘Senseless,’ Some Urge Gun Restrictions
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/12/politicians-call-connecticut-shooting-senseless-some-urge-gun-restrictions/
Politicians on Twitter and in written statements reacted with horror to the school shooting that left 27 people dead, including 18 children,  in Newton, Conn., Friday.

Mark Kelly, husband of former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who survived a shooting at a Tucson shopping mall in January 2011, said it is time for U.S. officials “to stand up and do what is right.”

“This time our response must consist of more than regret, sorrow, and condolence. The children of Sandy Hook Elementary School and all victims of gun violence deserve leaders who have the courage to participate in a meaningful discussion about our gun laws – and how they can be reformed and better enforced to prevent gun violence and death in America,” Kelly wrote on his Facebook page.

New York Mayor Bloomberg, one of the co-chairs of Mayors Against Illegal Guns said he is determined “to stop this madness.”

“With all the carnage from gun violence in our country, it’s still almost impossible to believe that a mass shooting in a kindergarten class could happen. It has come to that,” Bloomberg said in a statement. “President Obama rightly sent his heartfelt condolences to the families in Newtown. But the country needs him to send a bill to Congress to fix this problem. Calling for ‘meaningful action’ is not enough. We need immediate action.”

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said he was “shocked and saddened” by the tragic shooting. He said society should “unify” to “crack down on the guns.”

“During times of such unthinkable tragedy, all New Yorkers stand together with the people of our neighboring state to grieve the loss of life and help bear the pain and anguish that will be felt by so many in the weeks, months and years to come,” Governor Cuomo wrote in a statement. “Let this terrible tragedy finally be the wake-up call for aggressive action and I pledge my full support in that effort.”

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., also called immediately for tougher gun laws. He said he was “absolutely horrified” by news of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

“Yet another unstable person has gotten access to firearms and committed an unspeakable crime against innocent children.  We cannot simply accept this as a routine product of modern American life,” Congressman Nadler said in a statement.

Nadler reacted to White House Press Secretary Jay Carney‘s assertion that today is not the day to discuss gun control policy. Carney was asked if today’s shooting makes “limiting handgun violence or other gun violence” a higher priority for the president.

“There is, I’m sure — will be, rather, a day for discussion of the usual Washington policy debates, but I don’t think today is that day,” Carney said.

“If now is not the time to have a serious discussion about gun control and the epidemic of gun violence plaguing our society, I don’t know when is.  How many more Columbines and Newtowns must we live through?  I am challenging President Obama, the Congress, and the American public to act on our outrage and, finally, do something about this.”

New York Congresswoman Nita Lowey echoed Nadler’s sentiments in a statement: “Our expressions of sympathy must be matched with concrete actions to stop gun violence.”

Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell related today’s events to the shooting that took the lives of 32 people at a university in his state.

“My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those impacted by the events transpiring today, and to the teachers, emergency responders, and all others touched by this tragedy. Unfortunately, Virginia has our own painful memories of the tragic shootings at Virginia Tech in 2007. Those memories will never fade, and we continue to grieve for all those lost on that April day,” Governor McDonnell wrote in a statement. “We are all too aware of the impact that events like this can have on a community. If there is anything Virginia can do to assist Governor Malloy and the citizens of Connecticut, we stand ready to do so.”

Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado — where the Columbine High School shooting took 13 lives in 1999, and where this past July,  12 were killed by a gunman in an Aurora movie theater — also offered his condolences.

“The shooting in Connecticut is absolutely horrific and heartbreaking,” the Colorado governor wrote in a statement. “We know too well what impact this kind of violence has on a community and our nation. Our thoughts and prayers are immediately with the families of those killed. We can offer comfort, but we all know the pain will stay forever.”

More than 70 members of the House of Representatives used Twitter to express their sadness over the violence in Connecticut.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 05:37:17 PM
Dec. 14, 17:20 ET: The suspected shooter, Adam Lanza, is autistic, or has aspergers syndrome and a “personality disorder,” his elder brother Adam Lanza told authorities, ABC reports.
http://rt.com/usa/news/sandy-school-live-updates-091/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 14, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Thats what I posted about earlier.....

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.msg1390310#msg1390310 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.msg1390310#msg1390310)

There was no way the guy got in the building dressed in a military vest, let alone carrying four weapons........ just sayin.

My apologies, I didn't see it.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 14, 2012, 05:43:34 PM
27 Killed in Connecticut Shooting, Including 20 Children ...
A gunman killed 26 people, 20 of them children between the ages of 5 and 10, in a shooting on Friday morning at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn ...
www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/​shooting-reported-at...

 God help the parents......So far all I can get on is the shooter  is dead, no reason as to the method. There was a cop car stationed in front of the school during the  time of entry, the suspect... the suspects mother was found dead at the school/ later changed to body found at her home, the attacker was wearing black fatigues a military vest and a bushmaster 223 and glock side arm.
 They are saying the school had surveillance cameras?
WTF, its convoluted.  I feel to the bottom of my heart for the victims and family's, that said this will be a political issue, the MSM will be all over this one of course, but at the bottom of all this misery this will be an attack on gun ownership.
 I can't help saying as cold as it may sound, would the inner circle do this to scale down any type of weaponry comparible to military, only if they have a plan for the future of this nation and will go to any lenghts to insure the qualfied resistance is at a minimum..
  This is happening here USA, it sickens me.
 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
cbs/abc appologies FOX Conn now reporting:  no dead person found at second third crime site (Hoboken), but one two in custody,... info in flux


According to one source the brothers were not exactly close, they hadn't seen eachother for years:

"A source told The Post Ryan has told investigators he last saw Adam in 2010 and that Adam is autistic."
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/potential_connecticut_school_shooting_8HMOSbP38TXwSYYsVGkYLO (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/potential_connecticut_school_shooting_8HMOSbP38TXwSYYsVGkYLO)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: A Dissident December 14, 2012, 05:44:46 PM
Second man wearing camouflage led out of woods in handcuffs, said 'I did not do it' (14 Dec 2012) A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, "I did not do it."
http://www.legitgov.org/Second-man-wearing-camouflage-led-out-woods-handcuffs-said-I-did-not-do-it
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 14, 2012, 05:48:35 PM
Autistic? This is total HOGWASH! Autistic people have angry/wild tendencies, to the point where they get physical and throw things around, but never, NEVER to they get to the level of THIS kind of violence!

Also, autistic people are SCARED of LOUD SOUNDS, which would make them not only touch a gun with a 10 foot pole!

There's just NO WAY this guy did it - and if he did, there's NO way he had any signs of autism.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 14, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
Second man wearing camouflage led out of woods in handcuffs, said 'I did not do it' (14 Dec 2012) A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, "I did not do it."
http://www.legitgov.org/Second-man-wearing-camouflage-led-out-woods-handcuffs-said-I-did-not-do-it

Maybe the mystery man in the woods was the third brother, Mario:
 
(http://www.plaatjesdump.nl/upload/dd231e30adcbc42ba34ac925327e8d52.jpg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Satyagraha December 14, 2012, 05:50:52 PM
How 'bout that Fiscal Cliff  Huh? Worried about that now?

Right.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: AdhocalypseNOW December 14, 2012, 05:52:46 PM
The Role of (Collectivist) Culture in Protecting People from Innate Death Anxiety


Culture (and religion) offers a system of meaning that affords psychological protection from the fear of death caused by human instinct (self-preservation).  By assigning a greater significance to our lives and deaths, we can calm the anxiety that accompanies the inevitability of death.  In effect, culture and religion liberate us from human instinct and allow us to live life in the here-and-now by establishing a sense of order (e.g. clocks track time across the 9-to-5 work day) and predictability (e.g. calendars institute predictable dates on a daily, weekly, monthly, and annual basis).  Additionally, cultures frequently encourage a sense of permanence that symbolically, extends our existence beyond the point of death; they often socialize explicit beliefs describing (speculating) the experience following death.  When death is perceived as part of a greater process, human existence continues indefinitely.  

   Literal and symbolic immortality reinforce these cultural systems.  Conforming to the standards of rigid cultures may directly spare that individual from dire consequences (i.e. death), in which case that person achieves literal immortality.  Individuals may also achieve symbolic immortality by identifying with a larger group; collectivism infers symbolic immortality that individualism obstructs.  While individuals themselves die, their role in and significance to the common group persist regardless and thus, become immortal in a symbolic sense.  

   The communal satisfaction of belonging to a culture or group promotes self-esteem, which also subdues death anxiety.  In this scenario, adopting culturally valued social roles, responsibilities, and attributes increases self-esteem through a sense of life purpose.  Culturally respected behaviors and achievements (e.g. College Graduation) also positively affect self-esteem - especially defending one's culture in confronting a threat it.  This is socially rewarded with gratitude, admiration and respect in American culture (e.g. military service).  
   
   The attenuation of death anxiety by enhancing self-esteem requires one to bestow faith in his or her culture - to sincerely believe the cultural worldview is accurate.  It also necessitates the individual to meet the cultural standards and expectations prescribed by that worldview.  

How Terror Management Theory Explains the Existence of Prejudice

TMT suggests that culture operates as a mechanism for averting death anxiety, building self-esteem through identifying with a collectivist worldview.  When self-esteem is motivated by instinct (e.g. self-preservation), the individual's investment in culture is deep-seated and inherently faithful.  Gratification is derived through the appraisal of conforming to cultural values and norms.  By the same token, worldviews that contradict, are incongruent with, or question one's culture become taboo.  The faithful prospect of one's own culture tends to negatively project onto those subscribing to alternative worldviews.  Because cultures depend on social consensus, they are fragile, which causes group members to quickly jump to the defense of their worldview (and more easily perceive alternative cultures to be a threat to their own).  Morality salience, or the awareness of death, amplifies the tendency to perceive cultures different from our own as threats; it increases our liking of our own group and the disliking of others', thus creating prejudice against other worldviews.  

The Abuse-potential of TMT

TMT, for obvious reasons, carries significant abuse-potential as implicated moderators (e.g. worldview/ideology) exhume enormous influence over how individuals will presumably react to events that aggravate mortality salience.  Note that sociological reactions to terroristic events (e.g. school shootings) are prescribed by the worldview and not by the individual.  This means that syndicated media newscasts marketing anti-gun measures (a historically "Liberal" position) can easily incite robustly emotional responses that do not rest on rhyme or reason, but rather the prescribed ideals recognized as part of a greater ideology.  

It is important to keep this in mind with respect to subverting the advancement of anti-gun measures.  WHEN CONFRONTING EMOTIONAL ACCUSATIONS RIDICULING 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS, RETURN THE FOCUS OF ATTENTION TO RATIONAL ARGUMENTS BASED ON FACTS AND DEDUCTIVE LOGIC.  Cite historical events, facts and figures that explain why Gun Control (and government regulation) amplifies the prevalence of violent crime rather than mitigates it.  When mass media attempts to instigate widespread hysteria, we need to be the voice of reason in order to re-stabilize the encouraged emotional excitement.  If possible, cite research evidence that correlates restrictive measures with increased violence and misuse of weapons.  RAISE QUESTIONS about the history of the entity attempting to construe itself as the ideal regulator of 2nd amendment rights; what events and phenomena make government the least responsible and trustworthy arms regulator?  Certainly, most of us won't have trouble thinking of instances that debunk how this event will be used to manipulate the masses into advancing the Neo-con agenda.

Hope this helps preserve gun rights in the face of this outrageously evil atrocity.  We need to be honest about what these events are being used to do.  When faced with people who argue preserving 2nd amendment rights is morally depraved, spin it to condemn anyone who would exploit the murder of children for political gain.  
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Monkeypox December 14, 2012, 05:54:31 PM
How 'bout that Fiscal Cliff  Huh? Worried about that now?

How...convenient.

Even if "they"  don't stage these events, "they" sure take advantage of them when they occur.

Wasn't it Rahm Emanuel who said "never let a good crisis go to waste"?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 05:56:51 PM
Dec. 14, 17:20 ET: The suspected shooter, Adam Lanza, is autistic, or has aspergers syndrome and a “personality disorder,” his elder brother Adam Lanza told authorities, ABC reports.
http://rt.com/usa/news/sandy-school-live-updates-091/

Let me guess....
A Paitent of Dr. Louis Jolyn West
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 05:57:38 PM
abc/cbs Conn local:  Mother found shot to death at home, not at the school.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 05:58:46 PM
How...convenient.

Even if "they"  don't stage these events, "they" sure take advantage of them when they occur.

Wasn't it Rahm Emanuel who said "never let a good crisis go to waste"?

Yes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs6TgitlNIA
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 06:00:44 PM
hate to be the doubting thomas here but anyone actually see any bodies removed, 27 people that's a big mess to clean up too.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Maybe the mystery man in the woods was the third brother, Mario:
 
(http://www.plaatjesdump.nl/upload/dd231e30adcbc42ba34ac925327e8d52.jpg)

Dat woz funny
 ;D
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Catalina December 14, 2012, 06:04:46 PM
Live feed Ct   http://betaplayer.radio.com/player/1080-wtic-newstalk
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: poncho December 14, 2012, 06:06:46 PM
How 'bout that Fiscal Cliff  Huh? Worried about that now?

I have some friends that are somewhat afraid to go to the theatre to see "The Hobbit."
I guess we should start to be afraid of schools & malls too.

But they couldn't hit a movie theatre on such a big premiere.  Too obvious.  But still use the day... you bet.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Catalina December 14, 2012, 06:10:22 PM
I get home this afternoon and all I hear is the determinant factor of gun control. Nonsense! Look at how Costas sold out his soul regarding his former beliefs.


Bob Costas Fan of Western Justice in the Days

Bob Costas recently made news with his comments about gun control in America during halftime of NBC’s Sunday Night Football. Costas was actually quoting a piece written by Jason Whitlock. However, Costas himself may have been a bit disingenuous with the whole discussion. At the very least, he was a fan of guns at one point and time in his life. In 1989, he revealed that his greatest idol was Chuck Connors.

Chuck Connors was the western star of the television show The Rifleman in the 1960s. Now, let’s review this for just a moment. Does Bob Costas want gun control but just not on television? Or rather, what is the exact year in which firearm ownership a bad idea? Because Costas (as evidenced by this video) is clearly beside himself with fanboy joy at the mere thought of Chuck blowing some bad types away with his trusty steel.

Costas describes Connors as an all-time hero based in no small part on the fact that Lucas McCain was perfectly willing to restore law and order with a vigilante twelve gauge. Maybe Costas has simply changed. Maybe he has moved past thinking that even if violence does not solve everything, no one said that it didn’t solve anything. No one is downplaying the tragedy that occurred in Kansas City. However, isn’t it ironic that at one point, the person that Bob Costas wanted to meet more than anyone else was … The Rifleman?

http://sports.gunaxin.com/bob-costas-fan-western-justice/139344?utm_source=scribol.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=scribol.com

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 06:13:19 PM
"Deeply shocked and saddened": Queen sends message to President Barack Obama
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/connecticut-school-shooting-queen-sends-1490633 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/connecticut-school-shooting-queen-sends-1490633)
14 Dec 2012 22:53

The monarch sent the messsage after Mr Obama made an emotional address to the nation

The Queen sent a message to President Barack Obama tonight in which she said she was "deeply shocked and saddened" to hear of the shootings.

The message, which began "To President Obama", read: "I have been deeply shocked and saddened to learn of the dreadful loss of life today in Newtown, Connecticut; particularly the news that so many of the dead are children.

"Prince Philip joins me in extending our heartfelt sympathy to you and the American people at this difficult time.

"The thoughts and prayers of everyone in the United Kingdom and throughout the Commonwealth are with the families and friends of those killed and with all those who have been affected by today's events."

The message was signed Elizabeth R.

President Barack Obama made an emotional address to the nation and wiped tears from his eyes as he spoke.

At least 26 people, including 20 children, were killed in the horrific gun rampage at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

The 20-year-old suspect - Adam Lanza - slaughtered youngsters aged five to 10 in two classrooms before killing himself.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 06:17:51 PM
hate to be the doubting thomas here but anyone actually see any bodies removed, 27 people that's a big mess to clean up too.

abc/cbs:  Robert Goulston:  20 of the childrens' bodies are still inside of the school

...he said 20 I'm pretty sure, not 18, but reporting has been spotty all day and 'facts' are changing rapidly
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 06:23:01 PM
dad is alive now?  wtf
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: Blowback December 14, 2012, 06:31:50 PM
dad is alive now?  wtf

Was the dad reported dead?  I thought it was just the Brother and the Mother....??

Wait how could the brother be dead he was online tweeting and facebooking after the shooting...?

Man I can't follow whats going on at all hardly with all the flip flopping going on by the MSM while they figure out what narrative they are going to go for...

http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-connecticut-elementary-shooting-is-a-staged-false-flag/ (http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-connecticut-elementary-shooting-is-a-staged-false-flag/)
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: Catalina December 14, 2012, 06:34:09 PM
Was the dad reported dead?  I thought it was just the Brother and the Mother....??

Wait how could the brother be dead he was online tweeting and facebooking after the shooting...?

Man I can't follow whats going on at all hardly with all the flip flopping going on by the MSM while they figure out what narrative they are going to go for...

http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-connecticut-elementary-shooting-is-a-staged-false-flag/ (http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-connecticut-elementary-shooting-is-a-staged-false-flag/)

CNN, ABC, FOX is reporting the mother is dead only. The father and brother was taken into custody for questioning.
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: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 06:38:09 PM
Originally the father was reported as dead.

side note.  now the public will DEMAND that guns be taken away.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 06:39:43 PM
The brother was reported dead too tho...
http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-shooters-brother-and-mother-found-dead/

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: KazKru December 14, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
No inference here, but thought it was worthy of note that Sandy Hook is the home to Suzanne Collins, author of The Hunger Games series.
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: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 06:43:00 PM
http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/14/nbc-news-26-dead-in-newtown-ct-elementary-school-shooting/
DonnaScorp commented 4 hours ago

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As a retired NYPD Detective I have to say this-At least 18 children KILLED-SHOT in Newtown Ct. at an elementary school! NOW TELL ME WHY THE HELL ARE ASSAULT WEAPONS NOT ILLEGAL??? Are you gun enthusiasts THAT STUPID to not realize WE DON'T NEED THESE WEAPONS LEGAL??? IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM GO AND ENLIST! HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE???

Hey dumbshit  they were PISTOLS!
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: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 06:47:10 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/302700_549021555125398_28455168_n.jpg)
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: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 06:49:07 PM
Someone mentioned that Suzanne Collins is from Newtown. The people that did the Magic School Bus books are from there too.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 14, 2012, 06:54:31 PM


 ... this is why.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/zombie-entertainment-a-lesson-in-cognitive-dissonance-and-the-red-pill_122012 (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/zombie-entertainment-a-lesson-in-cognitive-dissonance-and-the-red-pill_122012)

... we are in hell.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Valerius December 14, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
Is there no such thing as security, police, etc?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 06:57:38 PM
Gun control? We need medication control! Newton elementary school shooter Adam Lanza likely on meds; labeled as having 'personality disorder'

http://www.naturalnews.com/038353_gun_control_psychiatric_drugs_Adam_Lanza.html#ixzz2F4dWm0E (http://www.naturalnews.com/038353_gun_control_psychiatric_drugs_Adam_Lanza.html#ixzz2F4dWm0E)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 06:58:23 PM
The only gun ban I'm in favour of is removing guns from Govt.
 ;D

See Democide (http://www.infowars.com/democide-government-killed-over-260-million-in-the-20th-century-poised-to-kill-billions-more-in-the-21st/)


Democide:
Government Killed Over 260 Million in the 20th Century, Poised to Kill Billions More in the 21st

http://www.infowars.com/democide-government-killed-over-260-million-in-the-20th-century-poised-to-kill-billions-more-in-the-21st/

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 07:00:20 PM
Man when you typed "connecticut shooting staged" into google an hour ago my website came up on the first page.  Now its nowhere to be found. 

Google is playing dirty.
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: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 07:00:57 PM
Anyone notice what time Obama took the podium today for his speech?

3:16

Today is also the date of the dark moon ritual.
ritualistic black magik 27 mostly children 7 days before winter solstice
http://www.northstarastrology.net/darkmoonritual.html
http://www.hecatescauldron.org/dark_moon_ritual.htm

GAIA Moon Magic Forecast - DECEMBER 2012

Every 500 years the Phoenix dies and is born anew from its ashes, an old world passes away and a new world is born. 500 years ago a Native American holy man called 'the Messenger' had a vision of a great eagle perched in the top of a World Tree. Degandiwidah saw that each branch of the tree was a tribe and all were united sharing a common soil. From this vision grew the Iroquois Confederacy with its symbol, an eagle clutching arrows, to represent the united tribes. The Iroquois pact inspired the more farsighted of the American colonists to form a similar tripartite system of self-government. Now 500 years later this same vision inspires the formation of a global round table of nations for our new world.

 

Every 2160 years a new zodiacal age begins and everything changes as new symbols and new myths come to life. Now we begin the new Aquarian Age. Every 5000 years a great Mayan cycle ends and a new creation begins; now we begin the era of the 5th Sun. Every 7000 years we begin a Millennium of the Sun and so it is now as we enter the much anticipated thousand years of peace. This month the stage is set for the convergence of many great cycles and the beginning of a new world.

 

At the Venus Transit earlier this year the Woman of Revelation was “clothed with the Sun.” Venus rising before the Sun aligning with the galactic center at this Winter Solstice (Dec 17-25) signals the birth of a new Golden Age. Now we come to the heart, the magical, mystical fulfillment of it all when Mayan elders say the Feathered Serpent will fly and this nation will come to full spiritual life to lead the world into the new Age of Light.

 

Why just now? A number of cosmic elements come together to bring us into the new age; mythic traditions tell us how. Venus as Morning Star is key for this new world to be. The return of Venus as Morning Star after her June 5 solar transit signals the flight of the Phoenix. The Mayans call Venus rising Quetzalcoatl, the Egyptians know her as “Bennu.” The chant to invoke the Phoenix return is “Tee ee ee wah lay yay, Ba, Bak, Bennu.”

 

Rising before the Sun to see the Morning Star facilitates the emergence of this new consciousness. In this time of new creation, we wish on the Morning Star. And we sing “Good Morning Starshine,” a mythic song for this mythic time. Venus rising now invokes the transforming power of love. Love rules in this new world.

 

The final key for the global awakening is the Sun’s alignment with the Galactic Center at this Winter Solstice Dec 21, 2012. The Mayans revere the galactic core as the divine being Hunab Ku. This great deity manifests on Earth as the god/goddess Itzamna-Ixchel or Whirling Rainbow whose 4-fold form is suggested by the spiral arms of the Milky Way. Sunwise circular dance aligns hearts with the heart of the Sun and the transcendent Hunab Ku.

 

White Rabbit! Dec 1 – Magic Is Afoot

Say ‘White Rabbit’ first thing today for luck throughout the month. #1 days resonate with the Magician Tarot Key 1, the Moon Hare is our magic guide.

 

1st Advent Sunday, Dec 2 – Invoking the Return of the Light

The 4 candles of the advent wreath represent the 4 elements of being to be purified for the Solstice rebirth of the divine light. One candle is lit each week in the order east, south, west and north. First to be purified is the mind (air), then will (fire), emotion (water) and finally body (earth). At midnight Christmas Eve a 5th candle is lit at center marking the coming of new light.

 

3rd Quarter Moon, Dec 6-8 (exact 10:30 am 12/6) – Realizing Dreams

This Moon cuts away all that distracts from putting dreams into action, Moon in Virgo trine Mars in Capricorn prospers all new creations. 3rd Quarter Moon integrates ideas into creative expression; it's time to follow our bliss and do what feels good in concert with the whole. Dec 6 is St Nicholas Day, Nicholas means “victory to the people.”

Balsamic Moon, Dec 8-11 – Make a Wish!

This is the Wishing Moon, the best time to put wishes on the air. It is also called the Witches Moon, a time to bring to mind those who need healing. Feeling invokes healing, the deeper we feel, the deeper we heal. The deeper we feel, the more Moon magic comes through the new lunar cycle. This Balsamic Moon is especially powerful as it precedes this Winter Solstice when the world begins anew. Shadows before New Moon can be cleared through deep breathing with attention to the light of the crown. See the wee crescent rising before the Sun with bright Venus, the Goddess of Dawn.

 

Hanukkah, Dec 9-17 – Illumination

This 8-day Festival of Lights (from Sunset Dec 8) celebrates spiritual purification and the miracle of Light. The deeper we go in the purifying dark of Hannukkah New Moon (Dec 13) the brighter the Light of the New Year.

 

Dark of the Moon/New Moon, Dec 12-14 – Going Within, Discovery

The day before New Moon until Sunset a day after is ideal for inner work to clear shadows past and seed the new cycle; outer activity is favored after the new lunar crescent appears. The New Moon (3:42 am 12/13) is a cosmic spring that flows freely as we slow down. Nostradamus calls New Moon "the day of Diana, a time for silent rest." A Solar Eclipse is a psychic black hole like Alice's rabbit hole. Many wonders await our following the Moon Hare within. Here we can know what is and how to help shape what’s to be.

 

Crescent New Moon, Dec 14-18 – A Time to Sow

It's time to bring forward what we wish to be realized. Farmers plant seeds when the crescent appears, seeds become fertile on every level, all new beginnings are favored now. Meditation opens doorways, wishes take wing, prayers bring blessings for this Moon and the New Year to be.

 

1st Quarter Moon, Dec 19-23 (exact 12:19 am 12/20) – Time to Choose

This Moon is like a scythe cutting across the sky, it's a time to cut free from the trappings of the past and affirm our purpose moving forward. Sacred to the Druids, this Moon is pivotal in the cycle of creation. Choices made are likely the right ones. Breathing deeply through the light of the crown frees energy flow up and down the spine to clear shadows and power our dreams.

 

Winter Solstice, Dec 21 (exact 6:12 am) – Seeding the New Creation

All that’s new gets seeded true as the Sun comes to its magic zero point. The Druids call Winter Solstice the Day of Liberation, the Day Out of Time. It’s a time to celebrate and invoke the return of the Light, our Light, to recreate our world. Today is when the Feathered Serpent flies according to the Mayan prophecy, it is when we fly free. First we train our dragons, then we fly. Tarot Key 21 the World shows us how this can be. Dance is key to training up the primal energy and opening the Solstice Gate of Ascension, dance sets our souls free. Winter Solstice (the “still standing Sun”) continues for 3-4 days until the Sun begins to move northward on Christmas Day.

 

Christmas Day, Dec 25 – Rebirth of Light and Love

Christmas is Dies Invictus Solis, “the Day of the Unconquerable Sun,” when the Sun begins to move northward again and the Light of the World born anew. This Light manifests through the 12 days of Yule culminating with Epiphany Jan 6. Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, the Egyptian Horus, Phrygian Attis and Persean Mithras; all represent the solar logos

reborn at midnight on Christmas Eve.

 

Sun in Capricorn Full Moon, Dec 26-30 – Transformation and Liberation

Each Full Moon brings revelation and opportunities for healing body, mind and soul. The Full Moon is like a pitcher that pours out a magic elixir we raise our cups to receive. Cosmic energies flow for 3 days following Full Moon (exact 5:21 am 12/28). Revelations come in dreams, chance encounters and flashes of inspiration. Stay tuned!

 

New Year Gate of Inspiration, 2 am 12/31- 2 am 1/1 – Open to Receive

A Muse Gate opens every 40 days, 9 times each year. Queen Cerridwen stirs her cauldron for a year and day to brew the “greal” of Inspiration. Nine maidens, the Muses, alternate their breaths to keep her fire burning. Polyhymnia is the muse of spiritual song, singing together channels the energy that creates the new world. Whatever blocks energy flow comes before the Gate to be let go. It’s time to dissolve body tensions that hold outmoded ways of thinking and feeling. Breathe deeply and move freely (do yoga, tai chi, dance!) to shed the old and open to the magic of this new time. Happy New Year!

 

Steve Nelson is a professional astrologer who uses Tarot, name analysis, and traditional astrology to help clients understand personal myths and realize natural abilities. He can be reached at 704-375-3759 or email stevenelson@carolina.rr.com.
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GAIA Moon Magic Forecast – NOVEMBER 2012

After the great storm, the world begins anew, this is the month everything changes. Nov 1-7 is Celtic New Year and it is the Egyptian Isia when Osiris is restored to life and a new cycle of creation begins. According to Tolkien's Chronology of the Great Year (see Lord of the Rings: Return of the King), the Ring War ends and a new world begins Nov 3. The ‘ring’ is the ring of power to be broken in this time. The pattern of the new creation is revealed as we look within to discover our own unique note in the chord of the new creation. After the Nov 13 solar eclipse we all come to discover our own story line and from our unique vantage the whole story becomes clear.

The Isia is a 7-day ritual drama when Isis and her companions gather the pieces of the slain Osiris and restore him to life. Now the essential myths of all time come to life and are reintegrated like the many parts of Osiris being rejoined. In the Egyptian myth it is Isis who gathers the scattered pieces of Osiris and restores him to life. So in our present era it is the new woman who gathers the essential elements of spiritual nature and joins these together in a new integral myth for our time.

It is better to trust our heart and intuition rather than thoughts and external communications while Mercury is retrograde from Nov 6 until Nov 17 when the New Mercury cycle begins. Then a new magic enters our world and our minds are reformed fit for the new time.

A solar eclipse is Mother Nature's most powerful editing tool. When an eclipse occurs above, things get eclipsed in the world below. As well as eclipsing old patterns of being this eclipse encodes a new creation story, Leading up to a solar eclipse outmoded patterns of thought and behavior are highlighted as shadows of our psychic nature come up to be transformed. Solar eclipses are opportunities to eliminate patterns of being that trouble our world. It is time to let go what stands in way of dreams being realized. The more old patterns are eliminated, the more psychic energy is set free for new creation. The energy freed from the old patterns breaking reconstellates toward intentions brought forward in the weeks following the eclipse.

The Druids built fires and beat drums after a solar eclipse to restore natural order and power on a new mythic story. The Nov 13 Total Eclipse of the Sun sets the stage for Winter Solstice Dec 21 when a great cycle ends and the world becomes transformed. It’s not the end of the world, it’s a new world beginning.

Hallowmas / Celtic New Year / The Isia Nov 1-7 – Spiritual Reunion

This is traditionally a time to renew ancestral power by recalling those who have gone before. It is time for the rejoining of the sacred circle and renewal of the light within that will emerge triumphant in the coming Spring. The Isia is a 7 day ritual drama when Isis and her 5 companions gather the pieces of the slain Osiris and restore him to life.

3rd Quarter Moon, Nov 5-8 (exact 7:36 pm 11/6) – Realizing Dreams

This Moon cuts away all that distracts from putting dreams into action, Sun trine Jupiter powers our dreams. 3rd Quarter Moon integrates new ideas into creative expression; it's time to follow our bliss and do what feels good in concert with the whole.

Mercury Retrograde, Nov 6 (6:04 pm) – Completion and Clearing

These next 11 days (until 11 am Nov 17) are ideal for finishing up old business but not for beginning new. Old patterns of thinking that inhibit soul expression are exposed and transmuted as Mercury moves retrograde in Scorpio now. This clearing is augmented while Mercury is stationary all day and evening Nov 6. Simplifying communications and eliminating mental clutter helps open to new possibilities coming through. It’s time to clear the way for a new state of mind that comes with the New Mercury Nov 17.

Hallowmas / Samhain / Celtic New Year, November 7 – Happy New Year!

Hallowmas is one of 8 fire festivals celebrated at equinoxes, solstices and cross-quarter days. These are times when change comes more easily to our inner and outer world. The Celts celebrated their New Year on Nov 7 when the Sun is at the Autumn cross-quarter. Fixed sign midpoints fix or focus energy for the coming season; mid-Scorpio forecasts what will be in Winter and the coming year. Mid-Scorpio’s solar gate is the creative source of the year. At this time the astral veil is thinnest and shadows of the past (year and lifetimes) are revealed and transformed opening way for the future to be.

The Nov 7 mid-Scorpio solar gate is the station of the angel Gabriel who blows the horn of divine judgment calling forth the essence of our being from the tombs of old ways. Mid-Scorpio is the Ace of Cups in Tarot and Ace of Hearts in playing cards. All that would block hearts from loving comes before this gate to be cleared. Astral shadows are dispelled and love is born anew. The Ace of Cups of Mid-Scorpio is symbolized by the witch's Cauldron and it is the Holy Grail that gives to each according to their need.

Bubble, bubble, bubble, no more toil and trouble!

Good Fortune and a Love that's true, abiding Luck I wish for you.

Out with the Old and in with the New, Blessings Be in this Witch's Brew!

Balsamic Moon, Nov 9-11 – Make a Wish!

This is the Wishing Moon, the best time to put wishes on the air. It is also called the Witches Moon, a time to bring to mind those who need healing.

Feeling invokes healing, the deeper we feel, the deeper we heal and the more Moon magic is invoked for the new cycle. Shadows before New Moon are transformed through deep breathing with attention to the light of the crown. See the wee waning crescent rising with Venus (Love!) before the Sun.

Dark of Moon/Eclipse of the Sun, Nov 12-14 – Going Within, Discovering

The day before New Moon until Sunset a day after is ideal for inner work to release shadows of the past and seed the new cycle; outer activity is favored after the new lunar crescent appears. This New Moon Solar Eclipse (exact 5:08 pm 11/13) is a cosmic spring that flows freely as we just slow down. Nostradamus calls New Moon "the day of Diana, a time for silent rest." A Solar Eclipse is like a psychic black hole, like Alice's rabbit hole. Many wonders await our following the Moon Hare within. Here we can know what is and how to shape what's to be.

New Mercury, Nov 17 (10:47 am) – Think and Create Anew

Mercury crosses between Earth and Sun beginning a new 4-month cycle of communication, invention and commerce. Mind and magic are reborn. This Scorpio New Mercury brings a special magic to power and realize our dreams. We have the next 3 months to bring this new magic to Earth.

Crescent New Moon, Nov 14-18 – A Time to Sow

It's time to bring forward what we wish to be realized. Farmers plant seeds when the crescent appears, seeds become fertile on every level, all new beginnings are favored now. Meditation opens doorways, wishes take wing, prayers bring blessings for this Moon and the New Year to be.

1st Quarter Moon, Nov 19-22 (exact 9:30 am 11/20) – Time to Choose

This Moon is like a scythe cutting across the sky, it's a time to cut free from the trappings of the past and affirm our purpose moving forward. Sacred to the Druids, this Moon phase is pivotal in the cycle of creation. Choices made now are likely the right ones. Breathing deeply through the light of the crown frees energy flow up and down to clear shadows and power dreams.

Gate of Inspiration, Nov 21-22 (5pm - 5 pm) – Open to Receive

A Muse Gate opens every 40 days, 9 each year. Whatever blocks our flow comes before the Gate to be let go. Cerridwen stirs her cauldron for a year and day to brew the “greal” of Inspiration. 9 maidens, the Muses, alternate their breaths to keep her magic fire burning. Euterpe is the muse of music and “bringer of pleasure.” This is a time to release body tensions that hold old ways of thinking and feeling. Breathe deeply and move freely (dance!) to shed the old and open to the magic of the new time.

Thanksgiving, Nov 25 – Family Gathering, Celebration, Gratitude

Thanksgiving is always celebrated in fun-loving Sagittarius on a Thursday, the day of Jupiter (or Thor), the ruler of Sagittarius. Jupiter is the planet of enjoyment, joviality, and good cheer. Enjoy!

Sun in Sagittarius Full Moon, Nov 26-30 – Transformation and Liberation

The Cherokee call this Bounding Bush Moon because it brings awareness of the cosmic World Tree, the Winter Solstice and Galactic Center Dec 21.

Each Full Moon brings revelation and opportunities for healing body, mind and soul. The Full Moon is a pitcher that pours out a magic elixir we raise our cups to receive. Cosmic energies flow for 3 days following Full Moon (exact 9:46 am Nov 28). Revelations come in dreams, chance encounters and flashes of inspiration. Stay tuned!

Steve Nelson is a professional astrologer who uses Tarot, name analysis, and traditional astrology to help clients understand personal myths and realize natural abilities. He can be reached at 704-375-3759 or email stevenelson@carolina.rr.com
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GAIA Moon Magic Forecast – OCTOBER 2012

The Sun in Libra Full Moon Sept 27 - Oct 2 brings a vision of what’s to be. This is Atohuna, the Cherokee Friends Made Moon when two are joined together as one in the presence of Yowa. From this inner marriage and union of souls new creation flowers. As two agree it will be. This is Nuetiegwa, the Big Medicine Moon when women dance to help the world be reborn. This Sun in Libra Full Moon begins Sukkoth, the Season of Joy that is celebrated in the sukkah, a simple shelter open to the sky and spirit. Water sprinkled with myrtle to the four directions blesses the space within. It’s time to create sacred space and make all things new. Re-creation in spirit makes way for the New World to be. All fortunes turn on the tide of this 7th Moon. The Atohuna Full Moon tells us what, the Oct 27-31 Full Moon will show us how.

Strange things happen at the Full Moon when the lunar orb passes through the Earth's magnetotail. Then, for 5 days (2 days before and 2 after the day of Full Moon), solar plasma flows strongly through the Earth-Moon connection and the Moon becomes so highly charged electrically that Moon dust floats above the lunar surface. This is the science, the metaphysical teaching is that solar prana and consciousness is drawn most strongly through the Earth - and through our bodies - when the Moon is Full.

October begins with an awesome flow of cosmic energies from auspicious double grand trines (double fun, double good luck) in air and water signs. Saturn just out of its shadow loop Oct 1 trines Neptune in Pisces anchoring  the vision of what we’re to be. By the next Full Moon plans are laid and in the works to realize our greatest dreams. Pluto conjunct in parallel with Mars and North Node in Scorpio transforms psychic shadow and eliminates illusions opening the way to enlightened awareness. As old patterns of belief transform energy is freed for new creation.

Grand trines are the most fortunate of cosmic signs and the sky is filled with them this month - including another double triangle at the Oct 15 New Moon. The big October surprise is a much stronger than expected up tick in the global and U.S. economy along with increasing consumer confidence and hope for the future of the world.

This month is blessed with strong focus and energy, which is good because there is a lot of work to do. While the Sun moves through Libra, the sign of the Egyptian goddess Maat, balance is restored within and all that makes the heart heavy is let go so we become light like the Feather of Maat.

The Oct 15 New Moon in Lupus the Wolf decan Libra begins a great transformation and release that will bring us into the New World. The transforming proceeds quickly as the Sun moves through Scorpio.  The mythic Ring War ends on Nov 3 or in the days just after according to Tolkien’s Chronology for this prophetic year. All the forces of the universe are working with us now yet we still have to do what is needed to bring our new creation forward. We’re awakening now to who we are and beginning to see what we’re to do in this new time. There will be much for us to celebrate by the close of this magical and fortunate month.

White Rabbit! Oct 1 – New Magic Afoot

Say ‘White Rabbit’ first today for luck throughout the month. The first day each month is the day of the Magician, the  #1 card in Tarot. The Magician pulls a rabbit from his hat and this is the Moon Hare standing high in the sky as the month begins.

Atohuna Full Moon, Oct 1-2 / Sukkoth, Oct 1-6 – Divine Union

The Harvest Moon brings people together in celebration. The Cherokee call this Atohuna “the Friends Made Moon” when eternal friendship is declared in the presence of Yowa. Sukkoth ‘the Jewish season of joy’ is celebrated in a suka, a simple shelter of greenery decorated with fruits of the harvest and with open roof to signify openness to the Divine.

3rd Quarter Moon, Oct 7-10 (exact 3:33 am 10/8) – Realizing Dreams

This Moon cuts away all that distracts from putting dreams into action, Sun trine Jupiter powers our dreams. 3rd Quarter Moon integrates new ideas into creative expression; it's time to follow our bliss and do what feels good in concert with the whole.

Balsamic Moon, Oct 11-14 – Make a Wish!

This is the Wishing Moon, the best time to put wishes on the air. It is also called the Witches Moon, a time to bring to mind those who need healing.

Feeling invokes healing, the deeper we feel, the deeper we heal and the more Moon magic is invoked for the new cycle. Shadows before New Moon are transformed by deep breathing with attention to the light of the crown. See the wee waning crescent rising before the Sun.

Gate of Inspiration, Oct 12-13 (6:40 pm - 6:40 pm) – Dance and Be Free

A Muse Gate opens every 40 days, 9 each year. The witch queen Cerridwen stirs her caldron for a year and day to brew the “greal” of  Inspiration. Nine maidens alternate their breaths to keep the magic fire burning, each maiden is a Muse. Whatever is blocking energy flow comes before the Gate to be let go. This is a time to release body tensions that hold old ways of thinking and feeling. Breathe deeply and move freely (dance!) to shed the old and open to the special magic of this new time.

Dark of Moon/New Moon, Oct 14-16 – Going Within

The day before New Moon until Sunset a day after is ideal for inner work to release shadows of the past and seed the new cycle; outer activity is favored after the new lunar crescent appears. The New Moon (exact 8:03 am 10/15) is a cosmic spring that flows freely as we just slow down. Nostradamus calls this "the day of Diana, a time for silent rest." New Moon is a psychic black hole like Alice's rabbit hole. Many wonders await our following the Moon Hare within. Here we can know what is and how to shape what’s to be.

Crescent New Moon, Oct 16-19 – A Time to Sow

It's time to bring forward what we wish to be realized. Farmers plant seeds when the crescent appears, seeds become fertile on every level, all new beginnings are favored now. Meditation opens doorways, wishes take wing, prayers bring blessings for this Moon and the Year to be.

Going Out of the Signs, Oct 18-26 – Out With the Old, Power On the New

The best time to break addictions or eliminate attachments is when the Moon wave moves down beyond vital organs from Sagittarius (thighs) through Pisces (feet). Now we can more easily let go outmoded patterns and eliminate toxins physical, emotional and psychic. It’s purging time again and this with Sun in Scorpio brings a big release before the great increase.

1st Quarter Moon, Oct 21-24 (11:32 pm 10/21) – Time to Choose

This Moon is like a scythe cutting across the sky, it's a time to cut free from the trappings of the past and affirm our purpose moving forward. Sacred to the Druids, this Moon phase is pivotal in the cycle of creation. Choices made now are likely the right ones. Breathing deeply through the light of the crown frees energy flow up and down to clear shadows and power dreams.

Tripuri Purnima / Phoenix Full Moon, Oct 27-31 – Transformation

Hindus celebrate Shiva's victory over the “city demons” Tripuri. Shiva is the god of dance, death and transformation (all things Scorpio). Lamps are lit to honor and welcome the Lord of the Dance. Scorpio is the Scorpion, Eagle and Phoenix. This Sun in Scorpio Full Moon is called the Phoenix Moon. Shadows come before the light, astral illusions transformed free energy to power our dreams. Each Full Moon brings revelation and opportunities for healing body, mind and soul. The Full Moon is a pitcher that pours out a magic elixir we raise our cups to receive. Cosmic energies flow for 3 days following Full Moon (exact 3:49 pm Oct 29). Revelations come in dreams, chance encounters and flashes of inspiration. Stay tuned!

Halloween / All Hallow’s Eve - Oct 31 Gather with Friends and Celebrate!

The astral veil thins as the Celtic New Year begins, psyches are unfettered and fantasy reigns. Spectral phantasms are seen dancing around caldron and candle. With a stirring of shadow and primal nature, shades of the past are conjured and cleared opening way for what’s to be. As the veil of the astral world is lifted, masks are put on reflecting fears and heartfelt wishes. As the old year lets go faces let go revealing new inner beauty. Stroke your crystal ball and look within to see what your future will bring. Happy Halloween!

Steve Nelson is a professional astrologer who uses Tarot, name analysis, and traditional astrology to help clients understand personal myths and realize natural abilities. He can be reached at 704-375-3759 or email stevenelson@carolina.rr.com
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GAIA Moon Magic Forecast – SEPTEMBER 2012

September begins with the Moon Hare Full Moon when we bring in the harvest and glean the essence of the year. The alchemical lunar rabbit gathers the Elixir of Immortality, the eternal essence of what is to be.

At the Sept 1-2 Gate of Inspiration Mercury rises before the Sun in home sign Virgo bringing new fire to mortal minds. Mercury’s higher octave Uranus moves through Aries with Athena quickening understanding and effective communication. Mercury aligning with Neptune in Pisces dissolves shadows of the astral world. Whatever makes the heart heavy is illuminated to be eliminated during the Melpomene Muse Season 9/1-10/12. Venus square Saturn with Persephone in T-square exposes emotional wounds and invokes the healing soul of the world. All past patterns that hold back from love are dissolved in this time.  As old patterns break energy is set free for new creation, new love, a new world awakening. All we need do is breathe, feel through and focus on the light of the new.

This month begins a 7-month period of extraordinary discoveries and new enterprises that transform the world. New couples forming, reuniting soul mates, partner successfully in global business as this influence grows. Awakened global woman mediates the emergence of the new masculine. New Woman and New Man come together in the 7th Moon (9/16 - 9/30) and from their union the new creation flowers.

Now slow moving Neptune parallels Spica (Arista) the bright star of Virgo representing Ceres/Demeter, the star-crowned Empress in Tarot Key 3. She is the revealer of the sacred mysteries in Greek mythology and she is the Woman of Revelation pursued by the Dragon (Sauron, Saturn’s shadow) in our time.  The Woman is aided by the great Eagle Aquila that wields the thunderbolts of Zeus. Now we enter the great drama of our Age, “the war in heaven” or Ring War that is to be won in 2012 so we can enter the new millennium of peace and prosperity that is due.

The appearance of the lunar crescent Sept 16 begins a 10-day / 9-night celebration time when the world is recreated according to Cherokee, ancient Chinese, Hindu and Greek Mystery traditions. All say this 7th Moon of the zodiac year is when the world was first created and is recreated each year. During these 9 Nights (Hindu Navaratri) Kali is welcomed into homes to consume the old year's discord and Cherokee celebrate "Nuetiegwa” the Big Medicine Moon. Cherokee women dance from the time the crescent appears until the Moon sets to help the world be reborn. Their dance continues for several evenings. All deemed worthy of the new creation will be empowered by the close of this celebration. Re-creation in spirit makes way for the New World to be. All fortunes turn on the tide of the 7th Moon.

Everything is weighed on the scale of Libra at Autumn Equinox Sept 23-25. Balance is restored within and without as the Sun moves through Libra, the sign of Maat. The Egyptian goddess of Truth and Justice is seen standing on the western horizon in this season and at every Sunset. In her left hand Maat holds a scale balancing a human heart with the Feather of Truth. In her right hand she holds the Goddess Eye in a fiery golden triangle. This Eye is key to the old Egyptian religion and it is the Eye in Triangle on the U.S. Great Seal. When the Eye retreats from the world evil reigns for a time, when the Eye returns old world shadows are dispelled and a new world begins. From the Eye comes a beam of light or bolt of lightning that appears in Tarot Key 16 The Tower. The Goddess Eye eliminates all that makes the heart heavy so it becomes as light as the Feather of Truth.

Maat Magic: Be aware of the patterns of behavior or thought that are causing problems (whatever makes the heart heavy).  Imagine the pattern separate from the person or people involved, it's not who they are as souls, just trappings picked up along the way that inhibit soul expression. If the pattern is truly inappropriate and out of sync with their inner being that person's soul will work with you to eliminate it. Feel what you feel about the pattern while taking several deep breaths, then on a final out breath release your emotion as a bolt of lightning to break the pattern. See the pattern break, then shift attention to a good purpose or an ideal you wish to make real. Energy flows where attention goes. This is transformation: breaking an old form and moving the energy released to a new and better form. Social justice and economic democracy become realized through the liberating influence of Libra / Maat / Key 11 Justice and her divine yin counterpart Key 2 the High Priestess, Kwan Yin, Persephone, the feminine soul of the world.

Moon Hare Full Moon  / White Rabbit! Sep 1 – New Magic

Say ‘White Rabbit’ first thing today for luck throughout the month. This is a widespread folk custom for the first day each month, the day of the Magician, the #1 card in Tarot. The Magician pulls another rabbit from his hat and this is the Moon Hare, the rabbit of magic, alchemy and the Moon. The Moon Hare is seen standing on the Moon pounding out the Elixir of Immortality just as our psyches (perhaps with the aid of a timely storm) pound out the good of the passing year. Gathering the Elixir at the Full Moon is key to psychic alchemy. The energies of the 7th Ray planets Uranus and Persephone (aka Eris), our new world planetary guides, come to us through the Moon. The Full Moon (Aug 30-Sept 2, exact 9:58 pm 8/31) is a pitcher pouring out healing elixir we raise our cups to receive. Cosmic energies flow for 3 days following. Revelations come in dreams, chance encounters and flashes of inspiration.

 

Gate of Inspiration, Sep 1-2 (9:50 pm – 9:50 pm edt) – Dance, Be Free

Muse Gates open every 40 days, 9 each year. Whatever blocks our energy flow comes before the Gate to be let go. It’s time to release body tensions that hold outmoded ways of thinking and feeling. Breathe deeply and move freely (dance!) to shed the old and be present to the magic of this new time.

 

3rd Quarter Moon, Sep 8-10 (exact 9:15 am 9/8) – Realizing Dreams

This Moon cuts away all that distracts from putting dreams into action. 3rd Quarter integrates new ideas into creative expression; it's time to follow our bliss and do what feels good in concert with the whole.

 

Balsamic Moon, Sep 11-14 – Make a Wish!

This is the Wishing Moon, the best time to put wishes on the air. It is also called the Witches Moon, a time to bring to mind those who need healing.

Feeling invokes healing, the deeper we feel, the deeper we heal. This wishing Moon with Venus trine Uranus is opportunity to invoke new love, peace and creative prosperity. The deeper we feel, the more Moon magic is invoked for this cycle. Shadows before New Moon are cleared by deep breathing with attention to the light of the crown. See the waning crescent rising before the morning Sun.

 

Dark of Moon/New Moon, Sep 14-16 – Going Within

The day before New Moon until Sunset a day after is ideal inner work to release shadows of the past and seed the new cycle; outer activity is favored after the new lunar crescent appears. The New Moon (exact 10:11 am 9/15) is a cosmic spring that flows freely as we slow down. Nostradamus calls this "the day of Diana, a time for silent rest." This is when mystics descend to drink from the magic well within.

 

Rosh Hashanah / Crescent New Moon, Sep 17-20 – A Time to Sow

It's time to bring forward what we wish to be realized. Farmers plant seeds when the crescent appears, seeds become fertile on every level, all new beginnings are favored now. At the sighting of this 7th Moon, the Cherokee women start their new creation dance, the 9 North Star Spirits begin their descent (China), Jews blow the shofar, Kali enters homes to consume the old year's discord and initiates gather at Eleusis to receive the Mysteries. Moon magic is strongest Sunset to Moonset when the Moon is in the 7th House. Meditation opens doorways, wishes take wing, prayers bring blessings for this Moon and the Year to be.

 

Going Out of the Signs, Sep 20-28 – Out With the Old, Powering the New

The best time to break addictions or eliminate attachments is when the Moon wave moves down beyond vital organs from Sagittarius (thighs) through Pisces (feet). Now we can more easily let go outmoded patterns and eliminate toxins physical, emotional and psychic. It’s purging time and with Sun in Virgo and Libra, time to bring in the harvest and broom out the chaff.

 

Autumn Equinox, Sept 22-25 (exact 10:49 am 9/22) – Balance Within

Maat, the Egyptian Goddess of Justice, stands on the western horizon holding a scale with human heart on one side and feather on the other. This is the time to let go whatever makes the heart heavy so it becomes as light as the feather of Truth. All that’s heavy (personal and global) comes up now to be released. How to let it go? Breathe and release, breathe and set free. Maat is Libra, Libra is air. Emotions are converted from one form to another through the breath - especially at the Fall Equinox and in the Sunset hour.

 

1st Quarter Moon, Sep 22-24 (exact 3:41 pm 9/22) – Time to Choose

This Moon is like a scythe cutting across the sky, it's time to cut free from trappings of the past and affirm our purpose moving forward. Sacred to the Druids, this lunar phase is pivotal in the cycle of creation. Choices made now are likely to be the right ones. Breathing deeply through the light of the crown frees energy flow up and down the spine to power our dreams.

 

Yom Kippur / Atohuna / Kali Victory Day, Sep 26 – Mystical Union

This is the Jewish Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement or At-one-ment.

This is the Hindu Dasha-Hara when Kali slays the demon bull ending the reign of evil. Heaven and earth are united as one. The Cherokee call this Atohuna, the Friends Made Ceremony when two are joined together as one in the presence of Yowa. A New Fire is kindled, vows of eternal friendship are declared. This celebration continues until the Full Moon on Sep 29.

 

Moon at the Equator, Sep 28 7:12 am – 5:38 pm – Imagine!

Lunar 0 Points are cosmic balance times for creative imagination. Moon at the Equator going North is time to envision what we wish to be.

 

Atohuna Full Moon, Sep 27 - Oct 1 (exact 11:19 pm 9/29) – Illumination!

This is Atohuna, the Cherokee Friends Made Moon, when two are joined as one in the presence of Yowa. Libra rules relationships. Each Full Moon brings revelation and opportunities for healing body, mind and soul. The Full Moon is a pitcher that pours out a magic elixir, we raise our cups to receive. Cosmic energies flow for 3 days following Full Moon. Meditation, deep breathing, music and dancing help open to receive. Revelations come in dreams, chance encounters and flashes of inspiration. Stay tuned!

 

Michaelmas Sept 29-30 Celebrate Arts, Celebrate Community!

Each season has its angel and element, Michael the angel of fire rules the Autumn season. Michael leads a legion of angels to break the spell of astral evil in this time. Through Rudolf Steiner’s teachings, Michaelmas has become a harvest and arts festival when people come together to share the creative fruits of their year. Our work is done, it’s time to play.

 

Steve Nelson is a professional astrologer who uses Tarot, name analysis, and traditional astrology to help clients understand personal myths and realize natural abilities. He can be reached at 704-375-3759 or email stevenelson@carolina.rr.com
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GAIA Moon Magic Forecast – AUGUST 2012


The Sun, Moon and other cosmic forces come together this month to realize our dreams. Sun in Leo illuminates who we are and what we are here to do. Everything comes into focus during the Aug 6-8 mid-Leo power gate and the 2-week solar Hora that follows. We are supported by the dance of the planets and stars to realize what we are here to do. And, if all goes to cosmic plan, we will know completely by the Aug 22 Point of the Sphinx (Leo/Virgo cusp). This self-realizing means understanding our unique design and destiny for the new time. The work we’re to do, living it through, will follow as the new creation flowers in the months to come.

Leo Sun trine Aries Uranus and Pallas Athena at this Aug 1 Full Moon brings new technological (and magical) breakthroughs that will, with Uranus square Pluto, transform the global status quo. It’s time to take the initiative and bring forward those bold new projects, time to put best foot forward and make that proposal. After Aug 21 it will be time to come onto the world stage, each in our own way. Here we will find we’re part of an integral planetary being many call Gaia and we all have a special role to play in this new world creation story.

Venus rises before the Sun now fresh out of her shadow loop and aligned with El Nath, the bright star Hindus call Agni, the source of cosmic fire. Venus parallels Arcturus the wizard hermit star identified with Gandalf in Lord of the Rings. Venus/Arwen allies with the new Gandalf the White to bring forth the true king and new order of light. Venus powers a Mystic Triangle focusing through the old world ruler Saturn now hovering just over Spica (aka Arista). This bright star in Virgo represents the goddess Ceres or Demeter, the star-crowned Empress Tarot Key 3, the Woman of Revelation pursued by the Dragon or Sauron / Saturn’s shadow.

As August begins Spica/Arista and Saturn form a spectacular triangle with Mars in the early evening sky. They can be found by following the curve of the Big Dipper’s handle. Just above this triangle appears the Pleiades or 7 Sisters who are the nurses of the New Mars, the new hero, new masculine, new king, now entering our world. Directly opposite Spica, Saturn and Mars is the new planet Eris / Persephone, the High Priestess Tarot Key 2 with feet on the Moon. The Moon is the universal unconscious, the collective ocean of possibilities from which New Woman (Empress Ceres and her daughter Persephone reunited) emerges pursued by the Dragon named Cetus and Leviathan. The Woman is aided in her struggle by the great Eagle Aquila wielding the thunderbolts of Zeus. This is the grand drama of our Age, “the war in heaven” that is to be waged before we get on with the New Age of peace and universal prosperity that is due.

August 7 begins a 5-month period when we come to realize the special gifts we bring and the part we’re to play in this new creation. Now begins the Global Initiation when Earth and humanity as a whole enter a higher state of being. This universal shift in consciousness begins during this Aug 6-22 solar hora culminating with the August 22 Point of the Sphinx. Then Mercury will have left his retrograde shadow loop and Venus rises before the Sun with Sirius signaling the  beginning of a new 500-year Renaissance and a new 2000-year Age. This New Venus “clothed with the Sun” is the Bennu Phoenix rising, a New World is being born and Love will be Queen.

Lammas Day / Lughnasa, August 1-7 – Illumination

August begins with Lughnasa celebrating the Celtic Sun god Lugh. Also known as Lammas or Loaf-mass, it is traditional to share bread of the first harvest now. “Lammas bread” grounds and make flesh, the illumination of this time. The Lughnasa celebration culminates Aug 6-7 when the Sun is at the mid-Leo “power gate of fire,” the mid-Summer cross-quarter. Say “White Rabbit” on Aug 1 for luck throughout the month.

 

Leo Full Moon, Aug 1-4 (exact 11:27 pm 8/1) – Love and Revelation

Each Full Moon brings revelation and opportunity for healing body, mind and soul. The Full Moon is a pitcher pouring out a healing elixir. Meditation, deep breathing, music and dancing help us open to receive. Movement is key. Cosmic spiritual energies flow strongly for 3 days following the Full Moon. Revelations come in dreams, chance encounters and flashes of inspiration. Stay tuned. Leo rules the heart and it is home sign of Sol, the cosmic source of love. The meditation keynote of this Sun in Leo Full Moon is: "May the wellspring of Love find in us an unimpeded channel."

 

Lammas/Lughnasa Cross-Quarter, Aug 6-8 – Illumination

The Lammas cross-quarter (exact 10:40 pm 8/6) culminates at the mid-Leo “power gate of fire.” This is a time for mountain top picnics, bread shared now (hence Lammas or "loaf mass") is imbued with special energy like the Hobbits “Lammas bread” which sustains them in their Quest. Dreams and portents now predict what will be. The Feast of Transfiguration celebrates the mountaintop illumination of Jesus. At this mid-Leo power gate solar prana flows down to the tops of mountains all over the world. Note: The August 7 Lammas celebration may be done at any place of natural power (including city center) where a suitable mountain top isn’t available. Focused intention is key to this magical time. Whatever is focused and seeded now will come to flower in the autumn season.

 

3rd Quarter Moon, Aug 9-11 (exact 2:55 pm 8/9) – Realizing Dreams

This Moon cuts away all that distracts from putting dreams into action. 3rd Quarter integrates new ideas into creative expression; it's time to follow our bliss and do what feels good in concert with the whole.

 

Balsamic Moon, Aug 13-16 – Make a Wish!

This is the Wishing Moon, the best time to put wishes on the air. It is also called the Witches Moon, a time to bring to mind those who need healing.

Feeling invokes healing, the deeper we feel, the deeper we heal. This wishing Moon with New Venus, Sirius and Mercury Prometheus brings opportunity to invoke new love, peace and creative prosperity. The deeper we feel, the more Moon magic is invoked for this new lunar cycle. Shadows before New Moon are cleared by deep breathing with attention to the light of the crown. See the waning crescent rising before the morning Sun.

 

Dark of Moon/New Moon, Aug 16-18 – Going Within

The day before New Moon until Sunset a day after is ideal for psychic and physical house clearing to make way for the new cycle; outer activity is favored after the crescent appears. New Moon (11:54 am 8/17) is a great cosmic spring that flows freely as we just slow down. Nostradamus calls this "the day of Diana, a time for silent rest." It’s when mystics descend to drink from the magic well within.

 

Crescent New Moon, Aug 19-23 – A Time to Sow

It's time to bring forward what we wish to be realized. Farmers plant seeds when the crescent appears, seeds become fertile on every level, all new beginnings are favored now. Moon magic is strongest Sunset to Moonset when the Moon is in the 7th House. Meditation now opens doorways, wishes take wing, and prayers bring blessings through the lunar cycle.

 

Point of the Sphinx, Aug 22 – Balancing Forces Within

The Egyptian Sphinx half lion/half woman is celebrated at this Leo/Virgo cusp, it is illustrated in the Tarot card Strength. Aug 22 begins the 5-day Egyptian New Year that signals a new renaissance on Earth. During this time the riddle of the sphinx will be solved and the magic of the sphinx, the harmonious balance between Spirit and Nature, will be realized.

 

1st Quarter Moon, Aug 24-27 (9:54 am 8/24) – Time to Choose

This Moon is like a scythe cutting across the sky; it's time to cut free from trappings of the past and affirm our purpose moving forward. Sacred to the Druids, this lunar phase is pivotal in the cycle of creation. Choices made now are likely to be the right ones. Breathing deeply through the light of the crown frees energy flow up and down the spine to power our dreams.

 

Going Out of the Signs, Aug 24-31 – Breaking Habits, Liberation

The best time to break addictions or eliminate attachments is when the Moon wave moves down beyond vital organs from Sagittarius (thighs) to Pisces (feet). Now we can more easily let go outmoded patterns of being and eliminate toxins physical and psychic. It’s time to set ourselves free.

 

Women’s Equality Day, Aug 25 – Balance and Be New

This culminating 5th day of the old Egyptian New Year is celebrated by honoring women and the yin as equal to the yang and to men. As this balance is achieved we discover the answer to the riddle of the Sphinx and Heaven and Earth are joined as one. As Bennu Venus rises we all given the opportunity to be new, balance and be reborn, raise the spirit and transform.

 

Moon Hare Full Moon, Aug 30-Sept 2 (exact 9:58 am 8/31) – Illumination!

Each Full Moon brings revelation and opportunity for healing body, mind and soul. Meditation, deep breathing, music, dancing help open to receive. This is the Harvest Moon, the time to separate wheat from chaff. The Moon Hare pounds herbs extracting the “Elixir of Immortality” as our psyches extract the good from the year. Gathering the Elixir now is key to psychic alchemy. The Full Moon is like a pitcher pouring out elixir, we raise our cups to receive. Cosmic energy flows for 3 days after. Revelations come in dreams, chance encounters and flashes of inspiration.  It’s magic time!




: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 14, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
           Hi S. +++++
Your post:For the record, I was thinking of making a post saying "Well I bet the second shooter was the mop-up agent that killed the first shooter. Then they will blame suicide as being the first (and ONLY) shooter's death, because the first shooter was a mind-control victim used by our treasonous multi-trillion dollar military in a hostile psy op against the united states of america to destroy the second ammendment and then the first ammendment, in that order, once they blame people like Alex Jones for obviously committing the mass murder that he didn't commit, and was only framed for." But I got distracted by alot of crap and let my guard down and underestimated the situation, therefor delaying the post.
  It's all coming home, innocent kids. Last night Pearce morgan, the elites face, was ranting about gun controll when the gal a 2nd amendment advocate began to mention our debt 16 trillion and possible violence, Pearce held his hands up for her to stop and the show came to an abrupt end..
 Today will go down in infamy, lets pray the true culprits are exposed. Innocent children slaughtered in our nation, God have mercy on the parents and family's!!!  Some poster wrote we should be ashamed suspecting our %GOV would do this to innocents. I ask him to visit Vietnam, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan and count the gravesites of infants, children and mothers.  give hugs and condolences to the surviving families and tell them our illustrious leaders are the good guys.
 *Maby, just maby, they will slip up on this one. PRAY for it get the word out.. The lone looney senario is worn the FK out.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Monkeypox December 14, 2012, 07:03:37 PM
I have some friends that are somewhat afraid to go to the theatre to see "The Hobbit."
I guess we should start to be afraid of schools & malls too.


They will goad the Sheeple into living in a constant state of fear, and then the Sheeple will DEMAND that the Government "do something."  The Government will happily comply with the "will of the people."

Problem-Reaction-Solution.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 07:03:47 PM
Man when you typed "Connecticut shooting staged" into google an hour ago my website came up on the first page.  Now its nowhere to be found. 

Google is playing dirty.

Wow they sure are playing dirty...
Not the first time they have edited the results.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 07:03:56 PM
http://www.meetup.com/West-Valley-Witches/events/91825932/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 07:04:46 PM
FOX Conn:  Guns legally owned by suspect's mother

also reporting,... White House innundated with petitions for gun control legislation.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Monkeypox December 14, 2012, 07:05:03 PM
Man when you typed "connecticut shooting staged" into google an hour ago my website came up on the first page.  Now its nowhere to be found. 

Google is playing dirty.

What happened, was your website telling the truth about things and asking the tough questions?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 07:07:45 PM
What happened, was your website telling the truth about things and asking the tough questions?

I would like to think so..

Mark Dice may disagree....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6GDzzqXlVk&feature=youtu.be
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
What happened, was your website telling the truth about things and asking the tough questions?

Yea he runs :

Info Salvo
http://www.infosalvo.com/

(http://www.infosalvo.com/images/logo.png) (http://www.infosalvo.com/)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 14, 2012, 07:18:38 PM
They will goad the Sheeple into living in a constant state of fear, and then the Sheeple will DEMAND that the Government "do something."  The Government will happily comply with the "will of the people."
Problem-Reaction-Solution.
  BINGO**
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 14, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Yea he runs :

Info Salvo
http://www.infosalvo.com/

(http://www.infosalvo.com/images/logo.png) (http://www.infosalvo.com/)

lol, thanks EG.  Check's in the mail.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Tokiem December 14, 2012, 07:22:41 PM
Obama on TV crying crocodile tears.  Makes me f**king sick....

I wonder if Obama has those same tears in his eyes when his drones and UN/Nato run armies using US soldiers kill innocent children overseas in all these preemptive, agenda ridden wars he continues? If he is being sincere today with his tears, he should be crying for ALL OF THEM!

Wonder why kids get the idea its okay to kill? LOOK AT THE ENDLESS WARS SINCE IRAQ? OBAMA AND ALL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS NEED TO OWN PART OF THIS KILLING CULTURE! THEY SAY ITS OKAY THEMSELVES! DON'T BLAME IT ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND USE THIS TO END THE 2ND AMENDMENT! OFFICIALS HAVE NOT BEEN AN EXAMPLE TO OUR KIDS!


[/b]crying crocodile tears @ 00:50 seconds >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIA0W69U2_Y
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 07:27:03 PM
No inference here, but thought it was worthy of note that Sandy Hook is the home to Suzanne Collins, author of The Hunger Games series.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/apr/27/suzanne-collins-hunger-games-profile

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Joseon December 14, 2012, 07:31:57 PM
they obviously are serious about banning guns from this incident. This will never end, the staged shootings.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 14, 2012, 07:39:25 PM
they obviously are serious about banning guns from this incident. This will never end, the staged shootings.

This is exactly how they got the gun ban passed in England, and Australia. There is some stuff about that on this thread a few pages back, but you only need to google "Dunblane". Brocke filled in the detail for the Australian "Port Arthur massacre"...

It worked in the past, so they are bound to try it out in america.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 07:40:59 PM
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: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Tokiem December 14, 2012, 07:43:04 PM
Obama crying crocodile tears @ 00:59 seconds >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIA0W69U2_Y
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 14, 2012, 07:43:40 PM
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: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 14, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Courant in Connecticut Updated Pg at 7:41pm more details:
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,7266220,full.story
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: Blowback December 14, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
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Spreading this to 4 winds....
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: America2 December 14, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
Al Gore supported gun rights in the 80's, FWIW.

I get home this afternoon and all I hear is the determinant factor of gun control. Nonsense! Look at how Costas sold out his soul regarding his former beliefs.


Bob Costas Fan of Western Justice in the Days

Bob Costas recently made news with his comments about gun control in America during halftime of NBC’s Sunday Night Football. Costas was actually quoting a piece written by Jason Whitlock. However, Costas himself may have been a bit disingenuous with the whole discussion. At the very least, he was a fan of guns at one point and time in his life. In 1989, he revealed that his greatest idol was Chuck Connors.

Chuck Connors was the western star of the television show The Rifleman in the 1960s. Now, let’s review this for just a moment. Does Bob Costas want gun control but just not on television? Or rather, what is the exact year in which firearm ownership a bad idea? Because Costas (as evidenced by this video) is clearly beside himself with fanboy joy at the mere thought of Chuck blowing some bad types away with his trusty steel.

Costas describes Connors as an all-time hero based in no small part on the fact that Lucas McCain was perfectly willing to restore law and order with a vigilante twelve gauge. Maybe Costas has simply changed. Maybe he has moved past thinking that even if violence does not solve everything, no one said that it didn’t solve anything. No one is downplaying the tragedy that occurred in Kansas City. However, isn’t it ironic that at one point, the person that Bob Costas wanted to meet more than anyone else was … The Rifleman?

http://sports.gunaxin.com/bob-costas-fan-western-justice/139344?utm_source=scribol.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=scribol.com


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: poncho December 14, 2012, 08:10:17 PM
I had a scary thought a bit ago watching the coverage.

They know they cannot collect most of the guns out there.  Too many people have them.
So even if they stop allowing the selling of guns, that will not make people turn thier guns in.

But if they stop the manufacturing of bullets... they will in effect take away our guns.
Remember all those rounds of ammo the govt stockpiled for all thier agencies across the US?  Well if ammo is no longer being sold, they will have a decided advantage won't they.   Much safer to collect those guns years from now when ammo is scarce for us but plentiful for them.
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: chris jones December 14, 2012, 08:12:29 PM
 A twinge of guilt tears, NOPE.
 He is on a mission for the masters, these events were foretold Mr. Obama was the perfect profile for the job, he remains forever loyal.
  
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: Effie Trinket December 14, 2012, 08:18:09 PM
http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_22192397/school-shooting-reported-newtown-conn?source=most_viewed

Man kills mother, then 26 at Conn. grade school
By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN Associated Press
Posted:   12/14/2012 08:26:26 AM MST
Updated:   12/14/2012 05:57:23 PM MST

NEWTOWN, Conn.—A man killed his mother at home and then opened fire Friday inside the elementary school where she taught, massacring 26 people, including 20 children, as youngsters cowered in fear to the sound of gunshots echoing through the building and screams coming over the intercom.

The 20-year-old killer, carrying two handguns, committed suicide at the school, bringing the death toll to 28, authorities said.

The rampage, coming less than two weeks before Christmas, was the nation's second-deadliest school shooting, exceeded only by the Virginia Tech massacre that left 33 people dead in 2007.

"Our hearts are broken today," a tearful President Barack Obama, struggling to maintain his composure, said at the White House. He called for "meaningful action" to prevent such shootings. "As a country, we have been through this too many times," he said.

Police shed no light on the motive for the attack on two classrooms. The gunman was believed to suffer from a personality disorder and lived with his mother, said a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation but was not authorized to discuss it.

Panicked parents looking for their children raced to Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, a prosperous community of about 27,000 people 60 miles northeast of New York City. Police told youngsters at the kindergarten-through-fourth-grade school to close their eyes as they were led from the building.

Schoolchildren—some crying, others looking frightened—were escorted through a parking lot in a line, hands on each other's shoulders.

Law enforcement officials speaking on condition of anonymity said 20-year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother, Nancy Lanza, and then drove to the school in her car with three guns, including a high-powered rifle that he apparently left in the back.

Authorities said he shot up two classrooms but otherwise gave no details on how the attack unfolded.

Youngsters and their parents described teachers locking doors and ordering the children to huddle in the corner or hide in closets when shots echoed through the building.

A custodian ran through the halls, warning of a gunman on the loose, and someone switched on the intercom, alerting people in the building to the attack by letting them hear the hysteria apparently going on in the school office.

State police Lt. Paul Vance said 28 people in all were killed, including the gunman, and a woman who worked at the school was wounded.

Lanza's older brother, 24-year-old Ryan, of Hoboken, N.J., was being questioned, but the law enforcement official who said Adam Lanza had a possible personality disorder said Ryan Lanza was not believed to

have had any role in the rampage.

Investigators were searching Ryan Lanza's computers and phone records, but he told law enforcement he had not been in touch with his brother since about 2010.

The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the unfolding investigation.

Robert Licata said his 6-year-old son was in class when the gunman burst in and shot the teacher.

"That's when my son grabbed a bunch of his friends and ran out the door," he said. "He was very brave. He waited for his friends."

He said the shooter didn't utter a word.

Stephen Delgiadice said his 8-year-old daughter was in the school and heard two big bangs. Teachers told her to get in a corner, he said.

"It's alarming, especially in Newtown, Connecticut, which we always thought was the safest place in America," he said. His daughter was fine.

Theodore Varga said he was in a meeting with other fourth-grade teachers when he heard the gunfire, but there was no lock on the door.

He said someone turned on the public address system so that "you could hear people in the office. You could hear the hysteria that was going on. I think whoever did that saved a lot of people. Everyone in the school was listening to the terror that was transpiring."

Also, a custodian ran around, warning people there was a gunman on the loose, Varga said.

"He said, 'Guys! Get down! Hide!'" Varga said. "So he was actually a hero." The teacher said he did not know if the custodian survived.

Mergim Bajraliu, 17, heard the gunshots echo from his home and ran to check on his 9-year-old sister at the school. He said his sister, who was fine, heard a scream come over the intercom at one point. He said teachers were shaking and crying as they came out of the building.

"Everyone was just traumatized," he said.

Mary Pendergast said her 9-year-old nephew was in the school at the time of the shooting but wasn't hurt after his music teacher helped him take cover in a closet.

Richard Wilford's 7-year-old son, Richie, is in the second grade at the school. His son told him that he heard a noise that "sounded like what he described as cans falling."

The boy told him a teacher went out to check on the noise, came back in, locked the door and had the kids huddle up in the corner until police arrived.

"There's no words," Wilford said. "It's sheer terror, a sense of imminent danger, to get to your child and be there to protect him."

On Friday afternoon, family members were led away from a firehouse that was being used as a staging area, some of them weeping. One man, wearing a T-shirt without a jacket, put his arms around a woman as they walked down the middle of the street, oblivious to everything around them.

Another woman with tears rolling down her face walked by carrying a car seat with a young infant inside and a bag that appeared to have toys and stuffed animals.

"Evil visited this community today and it's too early to speak of recovery, but each parent, each sibling, each member of the family has to understand that Connecticut—we're all in this together. We'll do whatever we can to overcome this event," Gov. Dannel Malloy said.

Adam Lanza and his mother lived in a well-to-do part of Newtown where neighbors are doctors or hold white-collar positions at companies such as General Electric, Pepsi and IBM.

Three guns were found—a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car.

The shootings instantly brought to mind episodes such as the Columbine High School massacre that killed 15 in 1999 and the July shootings at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., that left 12 dead.

"You go to a movie theater in Aurora and all of a sudden your life is taken," Columbine principal Frank DeAngelis said. "You're at a shopping mall in Portland, Ore., and your life is taken. This morning, when parents kissed their kids goodbye knowing that they are going to be home to celebrate the holiday season coming up, you don't expect this to happen. I think as a society, we need to come together."

He added: "It has to stop, these senseless deaths."

Obama's comments on the tragedy amounted to one of the most outwardly emotional moments of his presidency.

"The majority of those who died were children—beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old," Obama said.

He paused for several seconds to keep his composure as he teared up and wiped an eye. Nearby, two aides cried and held hands as they listened to Obama.

"They had their entire lives ahead of them—birthdays, graduations, wedding, kids of their own," Obama continued about the victims. "Among the fallen were also teachers, men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 14, 2012, 08:38:07 PM
 The contradictions are boggling, according to this account he didn't use the rifle, two handguns?
 
 
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: Blowback December 14, 2012, 08:42:19 PM
Obama Cries Crocodile Tears After Newton School Shooting
http://www.infosalvo.com/politics/obama-cries-crocodile-tears-after-newton-school-shooting/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Valerius December 14, 2012, 09:10:38 PM
Alex called it!


"Newtown, Conn. School District Had Recently Installed New Safety Protocols"

©2012 CBS Local Media

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/newtown-conn-school-district-had-recently-installed-new-safety-protocols/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Monkeypox December 14, 2012, 09:21:51 PM
I had a scary thought a bit ago watching the coverage.

They know they cannot collect most of the guns out there.  Too many people have them.
So even if they stop allowing the selling of guns, that will not make people turn thier guns in.

But if they stop the manufacturing of bullets... they will in effect take away our guns.
Remember all those rounds of ammo the govt stockpiled for all thier agencies across the US?  Well if ammo is no longer being sold, they will have a decided advantage won't they.   Much safer to collect those guns years from now when ammo is scarce for us but plentiful for them.


Or...they put a $10/round tax on ammo.  Or $20.  Or whatever they want.
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: Sasha December 14, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
Pierce Morgan is getting served with his gun grabbing nonsense, on his own show.

Oh my, he just brought op the Scottland incident and said that this was ours!  He wants a total ban.
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: bento December 14, 2012, 09:48:08 PM
Well this is why Obama was selected. All according to plan. He could get away with a gun banning drive where Romany would have had some opposition from his party and other conservatives. Obama is also the better actor and smooth talker(the more effective evil). These things always happen(started) when democrats are in control. The republicans are used, traditionally to start wars. Now we have a president that can get away with doing both. This is going to get ugly really fast.
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: Theo42 December 14, 2012, 09:51:46 PM
Pierce Morgan is getting served with his gun grabbing nonsense, on his own show.

Oh my, he just brought op the Scottland incident and said that this was ours!  He wants a total ban.
It's unbelievable.

We have a Red Coat on tv shouting down pro gun proponents in America.

Twilight Zone.
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: larsonstdoc December 14, 2012, 09:55:02 PM
It's unbelievable.

We have a Red Coat on tv shouting down pro gun proponents in America.

Twilight Zone.

  MORGAN is such a jackass.  That's the only thing good I can say about him.
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: Monkeypox December 14, 2012, 10:05:26 PM
  MORGAN is such a jackass.  That's the only thing good I can say about him.

Why the f**k is he here on American TV?
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: bento December 14, 2012, 10:06:49 PM
Why the f**k is he here on American TV?

Because Obama is the Queens Royal ass kisser.
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: Sasha December 14, 2012, 10:07:46 PM
  MORGAN is such a jackass.  That's the only thing good I can say about him.

...but it's true.



It's unbelievable.

We have a Red Coat on tv shouting down pro gun proponents in America.

Twilight Zone.

He's still mad about the shot heard round the world.
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: bento December 14, 2012, 10:20:52 PM
So do people remember the fiscal cliff, WWIII about to start, Fast and furious, election fraud, NDAA, Obama care? No all they worry about now, like a herd stampeding animals is gun control, evil gun owners(that like to kill children), people that need to have mandatory brain scans(mental health checks)new psychology manual makes every emotion a mental illness, NDAA will be good for making the evil gun clingers be disappeared. They are gonna get so much mileage outta this...........
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: bento December 14, 2012, 10:44:13 PM
For the NWO Christmas has come early they have got everything on their list... they must have been very nice?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: FreeinTX December 14, 2012, 10:46:24 PM
Why the f**k is he here on American TV?

Piers Morgan is on American TV because he fled to the USofA to avoid the phone hacking scandals that are taking his former employees careers away.

Piers Morgan was heavily involved in the phone hacking and if he was in the UK, he might be facing indictment.
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: FreeinTX December 14, 2012, 10:54:40 PM
FOX Conn:  Guns legally owned by suspect's mother

also reporting,... White House innundated with petitions for gun control legislation.

It is more than obvious that his mother bought those guns for him.  He lived with her, and those guns are not your average female substitute teacher purchases, but fit right in with the average 20 year old man-child of today's society.

A Glock, a Sig, and an AR.  ALL THREE ARE COP WEAPONS!  Most popular guns owned and used by PD's throughout the country, and the "what to buy when buying tactical firearms" for SWAT.

Who is the second man taken into custody?  Can't be the brother, if the brother says he isn't close to his bro, and hadn't seen him in years.  Camo pants, Black vest, in cuffs sayin' "I didn't do it."  WHO IS THAT GUY?  Is he going to be another "John Doe #2" like in OKC?  A guy that later showed up at Reagan International on 911?

And reports WERE that the .223 was found in a trunk or something, and the 2 handguns were recovered inside the school, likely on the shooters (or whatever) dead body.

Cable News rots your brain, makes you stupid, and clouds up the facts with their BS and agandas.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 14, 2012, 11:01:15 PM
It is more than obvious that his mother bought those guns for him.  He lived with her, and those guns are not your average female substitute teacher purchases, but fit right in with the average 20 year old man-child of today's society.

A Glock, a Sig, and an AR.  ALL THREE ARE COP WEAPONS!  Most popular guns owned and used by PD's throughout the country, and the "what to buy when buying tactical firearms" for SWAT.

Who is the second man taken into custody?  Can't be the brother, if the brother says he isn't close to his bro, and hadn't seen him in years.  Camo pants, Black vest, in cuffs sayin' "I didn't do it."  WHO IS THAT GUY?  Is he going to be another "John Doe #2" like in OKC?  A guy that later showed up at Reagan International on 911?

And reports WERE that the .223 was found in a trunk or something, and the 2 handguns were recovered inside the school, likely on the shooters (or whatever) dead body.

Cable News rots your brain, makes you stupid, and clouds up the facts with their BS and agandas.

Well said, and msm is brain rot, but its also a means of monitoring the fourth estate, the state media complex that revels in control and manipulation of information.  They're not as good at it as they think they are so they make lots of mistakes and are all too easy to sus out.

You bring up a great point, who's the, "I didn't do it guy"?  He's dressed just like the dead gunman, all SWATed up.  If his story is swept under the info rug then we have serious reason to believe he's a shooter too.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 14, 2012, 11:06:42 PM
FOX/Greta reporting Team of Medical Examiners are working through the night, in the school building, to identify each person killed.  They hope to release the bodies sometime tomorrow.  From there they will go to the Coroner's facility for further investigation. 
Since when does the medical examiner ID bodies at the crime scene?  The only reason to hold the bodies is so the crime scene can be photographed.  After that there is no reason to keep them there.  My guess is they are waiting for any wounded victims to just die.

It should be noted that one of the seriously wounded survivors of the shooting inside the school library at Columbine later considered legal action against the police for the lengthy delay before she was given medical aid.  And the 'kid in the window' filmed crawling from a second story window wasn't crawling out because he was frightened.  He got tired of waiting for rescue so he figured he was going to have to save himself.

Consider the high death toll at Sandy Hook Elementary with just one wounded survivor.  The shooter must have had extraordinary shooting abilities to achieve such a high kill rate.

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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-ct-school-shooting/#.UMuSDnphJZY.twitter
Shooting took place in “one section of the school in two rooms”

http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_22192397/school-shooting-reported-newtown-conn?source=most_viewed
Youngsters and their parents described teachers locking doors ....
A custodian ran through the halls, warning of a gunman on the loose, and someone switched on the intercom, alerting people in the building to the attack by letting them hear the hysteria apparently going on in the school office.

If the teachers had all this warning of trouble, and if they had lockable doors, how did the shooter gain access to even one classroom?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 14, 2012, 11:13:25 PM
NEWTOWN -- The man who authorities believe unleashed a bloody rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School Friday was an honors student who was described a "socially awkward" youth.

Several sources have identified Adam Lanza as the 20-year-old man responsible for the deaths of 20 children and six adults at the school in a horrific scene that gripped the nation.

State police, who as of late Friday had yet to identify the shooter by name, said the shooter was found dead in the school. Sources cited by the Associated Press said it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

A woman who lives near the Lanza family said Lanza was a "reserved" and shy youth who appeared to be "troubled."

"His mother would always say how smart he was," said Beth Israel, who lives in the neighborhood and whose daughter was friends with Lanza while attending elementary school.

She added that Lanza, who was listed as receiving "high honors" while attending the ninth-grade at Newtown High School in May 2007, may have had a developmental disability.

Lanza's parents, Nancy and Peter Lanza, were divorced in 2009 after 28 years of marriage due to "irreconcilable differences," according to court documents.

About nine months after Nancy Lanza filed for the divorce, the couple worked out an agreement that included joint custody of Adam Lanza, who was 17 at the time, although he was to live primarily with his mother, the records state.

The divorce filings indicated that Adam Lanza had lived in Sandy Hook since his birth.

A source told Hearst Connecticut Newspapers that Nancy Lanza was a substitute teacher at the elementary school but was not at work on Friday when the shooting occurred.

The Associated Press reported that Nancy Lanza was found dead in her home.

State and local police blocked off the neighborhood surrounding a house in Newtown Friday on Yogananda Street that local property records state is owned by Nancy Lanza.

While State Police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance confirmed there was one fatality in a different location other than the school, he declined to identify the victim.

Officials cited by the Associated Press said Adam Lanza drove to the school in his mother's car and three guns were found at the scene. Two handguns, a Glock and a Sig Saur were found inside the school, officials said, while a .223-caliber rifle was recovered from the back of car in the school parking lot.

CNN, citing an unnamed law enforcement official, reported that Lanza entered the school building wearing "black battle fatigues and a military vest."

Originally, sources had identified the shooter as Ryan Lanza, 24, Adam Lanza's older brother who lives in Hoboken, NJ.

According to reports with NorthJersey.com, police surrounded a Hoboken apartment on Friday afternoon where the alleged shooters' older brother lived before taking him into custody for questioning.

Ryan Lanza has a Facebook page that posted updates Friday afternoon that read "it wasn't me" and "I was at work."

Peter Lanza, a vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services, declined to answer questions from reporters in front of his home in Stamford in the Westover section of the city.

Lanza has worked as tax specialist and had served as an adjunct professor at Northeastern University in Boston since 1995.

A neighbor said Peter Lanza had recently remarried.

According to court documents, Peter Lanza was required to send significant alimony payments to Nancy Lanza, including monthly payments of $10,000 a month and increasing to a minimum of $12,450 up until 2023.

The court documents list Peter Lanza's gross weekly income as $8,556 and that he was required to pay all of Adam Lanza's college and graduate school expenses.

It wasn't immediately clear, however, if Lanza was attending college at the time of the shooting.

Peter and Nancy Champion Lanza were married in 1981 in Kingston, N.H.

According to a report Friday on the website of the Tampa Bay Times, Nancy Lanza's mother has a winter home in Brookville, Fla. In the article, she acknowledged to a reporter over the phone that Adam and his brother Ryan are her grandchildren. Her Facebook page links to two sons, Jack and James Champion.

James Champion, who lives in Kingston, N.H., where the Lanzas were married, is identified as a police officer. The Union Leader reported that he was "too distraught to comment" when reached by one of its reporters and that media arriving at his home were turned away by police.

Some of the early descriptions of Lanza are eerily similar to the two teenagers responsible for killing 13 people in April, 1999 at Columbine High School in Colorado.

Both Eric David Harris and Dylan Bennet Klebold, who also took their lives after the shooting rampage, were described as social outcasts who were troubled students and often the victim of bullies.

Harris and Klebold entered the Colorado school wearing black overcoats and were heavily armed in what was at the time the deadliest school shooting in the country's history.

The shooter in the April 2007 Virginia Tech killings that claimed 32 lives, Seung-Hui Cho, was found in an independent review after the slayings to have shown signs of depression and isolation and occasional instances of aberrant behavior at the university.

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Reported-shooter-appeared-troubled-4120058.php
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: Sasha December 14, 2012, 11:18:31 PM
The preprograming for copy cats and inherant grand national infamy is being set into motion,... including a St. Louis program for kids called, "Run.  Hide.  Fight."

Run, Hide, Fight: St. Louis County Police post controversial shooting video online
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Police-Tips-on-How-to-Survive-Shooting-166065586.html (http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Police-Tips-on-How-to-Survive-Shooting-166065586.html)


St. Louis County Police beef-up patrol of elementary schools
by Sharon Reed/NEWS-4
KMOV.com (http://www.kmov.com/home/St-Louis-County-Police-beef-up-patrol-of-elementary-schools-183578701.html)
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 5:37 PM
Updated today at 7:01 PM

ST. LOUIS, Mo. (KMOV.com) -- Friday morning’s mass shooting at a Connecticut elementary school has got St. Louis County Police on high alert for fear of copycat crimes.  There are additional officers patrolling elementary schools across the area and telling people to always be prepared.
 

Shortly following the shooting in Connecticut, St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted, “St. Louis County officers will provide extra patrols at elementary schools until further notice. We hope our presence will calm fears.”
 
The chief quickly ordered his commanders to mobilize extra patrols at elementary schools throughout the county.  Officers want people to know that if such a tragedy were to occur nearby, they’re ready.
 
“Our tactical officers receive terror training on a regular basis,” said St. Louis County Police officer Randy Vaughn.  “We decided a few years ago that this should extend to all first responders.”
 
Following the mass shooting at Kirkwood City Hall in 2008, many police officers suggested to parents to teach their children about making a plan.
 
“If you are ever part of an active shooter event, your survival depends on whether you have a plan,” Vaughn said.  “We provide security for the neighborhoods.  It’s up to the parents to care for their children.  I really think that included having conversations with their children about ‘What-ifs’.  As horrific this as this conversation may be, it’s important they know what needs to be dealt with if something happens.”

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: FreeinTX December 14, 2012, 11:20:34 PM

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Reported-shooter-appeared-troubled-4120058.php

GE Energy Financial VP?  10,000 a month alimony? 

WOW!

Now, this is getting very, very fishy.
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: donnay December 14, 2012, 11:48:58 PM
GE Energy Financial VP?  10,000 a month alimony? 

WOW!

Now, this is getting very, very fishy.

And increasing to a minimum of $12,450 up until 2023.  Wow, that is definitely a significant amount of alimony. 

Now, I wonder what the brother was doing in Hoboken, NJ?  He said on his facebook page when he was being accused of this tragedy that he didn't do it and that he was at work.  He also said he had not seen his brother, and I am assuming his mother, since 2010.  I am curious what caused him to be distant from them?  CT is not that far from NJ.

Lots of questions...but will we ever get any answers?
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: starvosan December 15, 2012, 01:08:30 AM
Consider the high death toll at Sandy Hook Elementary with just one wounded survivor.  The shooter must have had extraordinary shooting abilities to achieve such a high kill rate.  Come to think of it, 26 dead and 1 wounded has got to be a new record in whack shooter marksmanship.  This guy had a higher kill-to-wounded ratio than Bryant(Tasmania), Cho(VTech), Breivik(Utoya), and Loughner(Tucson/Giffords).  All from an autistic/asperger kid who are known to freak out at loud noises.

Fuhgeddiboutit.  This killer was a pro.
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: larsonstdoc December 15, 2012, 01:09:17 AM

  My son says the next 7 days are critical.  He says who knows what other gun incident could happen--people at malls shopping and kids at schools all over America.  Most schools will probably dismiss for Christmas Holidays next Friday 12-21-2012.  Of course we know that 12-21-2012 is the supposed Mayan End Of the World.  Pray that nothing bad happens.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 15, 2012, 01:16:17 AM
I know one thing, when I go shopping in the next few days--have gun will travel.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 15, 2012, 01:26:21 AM
Consider the high death toll at Sandy Hook Elementary with just one wounded survivor.  The shooter must have had extraordinary shooting abilities to achieve such a high kill rate.  Come to think of it, 26 dead and 1 wounded has got to be a new record in whack shooter marksmanship.  This guy had a higher kill-to-wounded ratio than Bryant(Tasmania), Cho(VTech), Breivik(Utoya), and Loughner(Tucson/Giffords).  All from an autistic/asperger kid who are known to freak out at loud noises.

Fuhgeddiboutit.  This killer was a pro.

  I don't know if I can believe he had extraordinary shooting abilities.  The NBC video below states that someone said the shooter SHOT 100's OF ROUNDS.  The video also states that HE HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS.  When I'm thinking his mom was a teacher, there is no doubt in my mind that the shooter was on SSRI's.  Teachers are taught to get kids on SSRI's if they are problems in the classroom.

         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=271AW6IjF3s
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: BossDude December 15, 2012, 01:41:06 AM
I had a scary thought a bit ago watching the coverage.

They know they cannot collect most of the guns out there.  Too many people have them.
So even if they stop allowing the selling of guns, that will not make people turn thier guns in.

But if they stop the manufacturing of bullets... they will in effect take away our guns.
Remember all those rounds of ammo the govt stockpiled for all thier agencies across the US?  Well if ammo is no longer being sold, they will have a decided advantage won't they.   Much safer to collect those guns years from now when ammo is scarce for us but plentiful for them.

In that case,save your bullets for when you will need them.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Brocke December 15, 2012, 01:46:06 AM
 My son says the next 7 days are critical.  He says who knows what other gun incident could happen--people at malls shopping and kids at schools all over America.  Most schools will probably dismiss for Christmas Holidays next Friday 12-21-2012.  Of course we know that 12-21-2012 is the supposed Mayan End Of the World.  Pray that nothing bad happens.


Werther Syndrome/The Werther Effect


Origin

The Sorrows of Young Werther is a loosely autobiographical novel by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, first published in 1774. It is widely regarded as an important work of the Sturm und Drang (Storm and Stress) period in German literature and its international success made Goethe one of the first literary celebrities by modern standards. Toward the end of his life, a personal visit to Weimar became crucial to any young man’s tour of Europe.


Werther Fever

Werther Fever refers to the IRL phenomenon inspired by Goethe’s novella The Sorrows of the Young Werther (1774) and spread across Europe in the 18th century. In the book, main protagonist Werther falls in love with Charlotte, a fiancee already engaged to another man, and upon realizing there’s no hope for romance, he takes his own life at the end. Considered one of the first “literary sensations” in Europe, The Sorrows of Young Werther reportedly led to as many as 2,000 cases of copycat suicides among young men and spawned a fashion trend of wearing custard yellow trouser and electric-blue jacket combination.


Mass Media & Copycat Suicides (Wiki Excerpt)

Belief in the media contagion of suicide is so pervasive that voluntary censorship is widely observed in reporting on suicide. There is evidence that many behaviors other than suicide are similarly “contagious”. Violence against others is well-studied in its relation to media contagion. The harm of violence, especially homicidal violence like murder and murder-suicide, is much greater than that of suicide.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/werther-effect
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 15, 2012, 01:56:48 AM

  Interesting article Brocke.  We should all be weary of the dreaded copycats that could give us more bad days.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: InsideJob December 15, 2012, 02:21:39 AM
Here is the original CBS News report of the second arrest:

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/ (http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/)

The gunman was believed to suffer from a personality disorder and lived with his mother in Connecticut, said a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation but was not authorized to publicly discuss it.

CBS News reports that a potential second suspect was in custody and that SWAT was investigating the home of the suspect. It was not known if that alleged second suspect fired any of the shots in the massacre.

A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, “I did not do it.”

“It’s just a bad situation,” Newtown Assistant Fire Chief Kevin Stoyak told WCBS-TV.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 15, 2012, 02:55:22 AM

Some of the deadliest mass shootings around the world


A gunman at a Connecticut elementary school killed 27 people, including 18 children on Friday. It is among the world's worst mass shootings. Here is a look at some others:

— Aug. 5, 2012: Army veteran Wade Michael Page kills five men and one woman and wounds three other people, including a police officer, before taking his own life at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin outside Milwaukee.

— July 20, 2012: At least 12 people are killed when a gunman enters an Aurora, Colorado, movie theatre, releases a canister of gas and then opens fire during opening night of the Batman movie "The Dark Knight Rises." James Holmes, a 24-year-old former graduate student at the University of Colorado, has been charged in the deaths.

— March 11, 2012: Sixteen Afghan villagers, including nine children, are killed during a predawn attack in which Army prosecutors have charged Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, 39.

— July 22, 2011: Confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik kills 77 in Norway in twin attacks: a bombing in downtown Oslo and a shooting massacre at a youth camp outside the capital. The self-styled anti-Muslim militant admitted both attacks.

— Nov. 5, 2009: Thirteen soldiers and civilians were killed and more than two dozen wounded when a gunman walked into the Soldier Readiness Processing Center at Fort Hood, Texas, and opened fire. Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.

— April 30, 2009: Farda Gadyrov, 29, enters the prestigious Azerbaijan State Oil Academy in the capital, Baku, armed with an automatic pistol and clips. He kills 12 people before killing himself as police close in.

— March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people — including his mother, four other relatives, and the wife and child of a local sheriff's deputy — across two rural Alabama counties. He then killed himself.

— Sept. 23, 2008: Matti Saari, 22, walks into a vocational college in Kauhajoki, Finland, and opens fire, killing 10 people and burning their bodies with firebombs before shooting himself fatally in the head.

— Nov. 7, 2007: After revealing plans for his attack in YouTube postings, 18-year-old Pekka-Eric Auvinen fires kills eight people at his high school in Tuusula, Finland.

— April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, kills 32 people and himself on Virginia Tech campus in Blacksburg, Virginia.

— April 26, 2002: Robert Steinhaeuser, 19, who had been expelled from school in Erfurt, Germany, kills 13 teachers, two former classmates and policeman, before committing suicide.

— April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, opened fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before killing themselves in the school's library.

— April 28, 1996: Martin Bryant, 29, bursts into cafeteria in seaside resort of Port Arthur in Tasmania, Australia, shooting 20 people to death. Driving away, he kills 15 others. He was captured and imprisoned.

— March 13, 1996: Thomas Hamilton, 43, kills 16 kindergarten children and their teacher in elementary school in Dunblane, Scotland, and then kills himself.

— Oct. 16, 1991: A deadly shooting rampage took place in Killeen, Texas, as George Hennard opened fire at a Luby's Cafeteria, killing 23 people before taking his own life. 20 others were wounded in the attack.

— June 18, 1990: James Edward Pough shoots people at random in a General Motors Acceptance Corp. office in Jacksonville, Florida, killing 10 and wounding four, before killing himself.

— Dec. 6, 1989: Marc Lepine, 25, bursts into Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique college, shooting at women he encounters, killing nine and then himself.

— Aug. 19, 1987: Michael Ryan, 27, kills 16 people in small market town of Hungerford, England, and then shoots himself dead after being cornered by police.

— July 12, 1976: Edward Charles Allaway, a custodian in the library of California State University, Fullerton, fatally shot seven fellow employees and wounded two others.

— Aug. 20, 1986: Pat Sherrill, 44, a postal worker who was about to be fired, shoots 14 people at a post office in Edmond, Oklahoma. He then kills himself.

— July 18, 1984: James Oliver Huberty, an out-of-work security guard, kills 21 people in a McDonald's restaurant in San Ysidro, California. A police sharpshooter kills Huberty.

— Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman opened fire from the clock tower at the University of Texas at Austin, killing 16 people and wounding 31.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 15, 2012, 03:05:43 AM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/155928_354075584691071_681608195_n.jpg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Hawkwind December 15, 2012, 04:31:12 AM
helicopter footage showing police chasing what appears to be, possible second shooter through woods behind school

http://www.ravallirepublic.com/vmix_310426da-3a79-5798-8ae2-aba15d2e5f7d.html


somebody please rip capture this before its "disappears"
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 15, 2012, 04:37:04 AM
helicopter footage showing police chasing what appears to be, possible second shooter through woods behind school

http://www.ravallirepublic.com/vmix_310426da-3a79-5798-8ae2-aba15d2e5f7d.html


somebody please rip capture this before its "disappears"

got it
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: SUPREMEMASTER December 15, 2012, 04:46:13 AM
helicopter footage showing police chasing what appears to be, possible second shooter through woods behind school

http://www.ravallirepublic.com/vmix_310426da-3a79-5798-8ae2-aba15d2e5f7d.html


somebody please rip capture this before its "disappears"

http://www.speedyshare.com/CwwDb/download/663bb90bac83ab7a00f23cd574c93427.flv

^Video
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 07:43:38 AM

The court documents list Peter Lanza's gross weekly income as $8,556 and that he was required to pay all of Adam Lanza's college and graduate school expenses.



I wonder what he was studying in graduate school?

I also wonder where he got all of his tactical gear? How did he know how to shoot so accurately?


"Seemed troubled"? Did he have a psychiatrist? Was he also on SSRIs or some mental drugs?


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 15, 2012, 08:41:19 AM
Someone said that they pulled this info off the school's website before they pulled it down:

Just got back into the web page from a link I saved earlier today... Here is her full bio.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2080583/pg88


"About Me

I have been employed as a School Psychologist at the Sandy Hook School since August of 1994, having previously worked as a School Psychologist in Redding, North Haven and New Haven Public Schools. I recieved my Masters and Sixth Year Professional Degrees from Southern Connecticut State University, and my undergraduate degree in Psychology from SUNY Cortland. Prior to working as a School Psychologist, I was employed in the Mental Health field as a Rehabilitation Assistant at a Psychiatric facility, a Psychology Assistant working in a group home with disabled adults as well as Community Mental Health Placement Specialist.

During my employment for the Newtown Public Schools, I have participated in many district and building based committees, including the District PPT Task Force, District Inclusion Committee and the District Conflict Resolution Committee. I have also attended meetings with the SHS Responsive Classroom Committee, Safe School Climate Committee, Special Education PLC, School Psychology Department meetings, building based SRBI grade level teams, Crisis Intervention Team, Safety Committee, the Student Instructional Team and the Planning and Placement Team, of which I am the chairperson. This school year I will be working as a team member with the Newtown Preschool Program for the two preschool classrooms who have relocated to our school.

My husband Bill and I have been married 31 years and are the proud parents of two beautiful daughters, ages 25 and 28. My oldest daughter is employed as a High School Chorus Teacher in Southern New Jersey and is living with her husband Eric, who is a sportswriter. My younger daughter is attending Georgetown University full time to achieve a PhD in Chemistry. She is in her fourth year of graduate school and she received a Chemistry fellowship for her work in the area of malaria research. She hopes to work for the government when she completes her degree.

My husband Bill is employed as a Financial Consultant. We enjoy traveling and spending time at our lake home in the Finger Lakes in upstate New York. My hobbies include gardening, reading and the theater.

I truely enjoy working with the SHS staff, parents and children and am always ready to assist in problem solving , intervention and prevention.

RIP Mary!!!"
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Valerius December 15, 2012, 09:18:09 AM
Total memory holing of multiple early reports  of others involved


http://www.naturalnews.com/038352_school_shooting_lone_gunman_media_cover-up.html
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 15, 2012, 09:25:27 AM
Someone said that they pulled this info off the school's website before they pulled it down:

Just got back into the web page from a link I saved earlier today... Here is her full bio.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2080583/pg88


"About Me

I have been employed as a School Psychologist at the Sandy Hook School since August of 1994, having previously worked as a School Psychologist in Redding, North Haven and New Haven Public Schools. I recieved my Masters and Sixth Year Professional Degrees from Southern Connecticut State University, and my undergraduate degree in Psychology from SUNY Cortland. Prior to working as a School Psychologist, I was employed in the Mental Health field as a Rehabilitation Assistant at a Psychiatric facility, a Psychology Assistant working in a group home with disabled adults as well as Community Mental Health Placement Specialist.

During my employment for the Newtown Public Schools, I have participated in many district and building based committees, including the District PPT Task Force, District Inclusion Committee and the District Conflict Resolution Committee. I have also attended meetings with the SHS Responsive Classroom Committee, Safe School Climate Committee, Special Education PLC, School Psychology Department meetings, building based SRBI grade level teams, Crisis Intervention Team, Safety Committee, the Student Instructional Team and the Planning and Placement Team, of which I am the chairperson. This school year I will be working as a team member with the Newtown Preschool Program for the two preschool classrooms who have relocated to our school.

My husband Bill and I have been married 31 years and are the proud parents of two beautiful daughters, ages 25 and 28. My oldest daughter is employed as a High School Chorus Teacher in Southern New Jersey and is living with her husband Eric, who is a sportswriter. My younger daughter is attending Georgetown University full time to achieve a PhD in Chemistry. She is in her fourth year of graduate school and she received a Chemistry fellowship for her work in the area of malaria research. She hopes to work for the government when she completes her degree.

My husband Bill is employed as a Financial Consultant. We enjoy traveling and spending time at our lake home in the Finger Lakes in upstate New York. My hobbies include gardening, reading and the theater.

I truely enjoy working with the SHS staff, parents and children and am always ready to assist in problem solving , intervention and prevention.

RIP Mary!!!"

http://myschooldesk.net/newtown/teachersite.aspx#site.7325_pid.31151_mid.56275
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Tokiem December 15, 2012, 11:07:13 AM
I think this brutal mindless killing of innocent children and others, could have been the actions of a Mind Controlled operative. Here is what I see as most peculiar. The alleged shooter kills his mother at their home and then drives several miles to her school to then kill her classroom full of innocent children. Could it be that the shooter was given the directive "kill your mother and her entire class room of children"? His mother by some odd chance is not at school and is killed at home during regular school hours. Now to completely fulfill the directive "mother AND children" the shooter now has to go to the school to complete the assignment.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: lucy_st1 December 15, 2012, 11:26:13 AM
Notes to review:

1.  Is there a record of the purported lone gunman practicing shooting? Local gun range, just off in the woods, what?
"Chillingly accurate"  http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-school-shooting-in-connecticut-28-dead-including-killer-305680
all dead, none wounded?
Why did they leave the bodies in the school until nightfall to remove them -- for over 12 hours?  Is that normal practice?

2.  How many guns were there? Why did the substitute mom have 5 registered guns including tactical  weapons? If it was just the two pistols he had with him, how could he get off 'hundreds of shots' within a few minutes.
http://news.msn.com/us/conn-gunman-recalled-as-intelligent-but-remote and links elsewhere"
"Authorities say Adam Lanza shot his mother at their home,  then drove her car to Sandy Hook Elementary School and — armed with at least two handguns — carried out the massacre.
A third weapon, a .223-caliber rifle, was found in the car, and more guns were recovered during the investigation."

conflicting with:  http://news.msn.com/us/officials-suspect-had-ties-to-school
"The official said that a gun used in the attacks is a .223-caliber rifle."

Seems State Media MSN rapidly and consistently contradicts itself throughout.
The rifle was found in the car, but it was used in the attacks. Which is it?

Why does mom have "Lanza's rifle was similar to a weapon widely used by troops in Afghanistan and Iraq."  ?

3.  Head's up for pre-crime gadget implementation:
http://t.news.msn.com/us/experts-conn-school-could-not-have-prevented-shooting

"Security experts say prior knowledge is one of the only ways to prevent school shootings.

U.S. school districts have spent millions of dollars on metal detectors, security cameras and elaborate emergency-response plans since the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School, but almost nothing could have prevented Friday's massacre at a Connecticut elementary school, security experts say. ...
"The school could not have stopped it without prior knowledge that he was coming," said Bill Bond, a school safety specialist and former high school principal who had a deadly student shooting on his watch."
IF it couldn't have been prevented, why this?
"Still, Bond said, there is no way for students and teachers to protect themselves when someone begins shooting with a weapon. He said even a security guard and locked doors could not have stopped the killer.

Without knowing the school's security system, Kenneth Trump, president of consulting firm National School Safety and Security Services, stresses that schools need to be "looking for these lone wolf actors."
 ...
But he has seen the danger drop at schools in the wake of Columbine. Dozens of shootings have been thwarted by students, teachers and principals sharing information and warning about students with weapons or plans to kill.

"There was a substantial amount of progress in the months and years after Columbine in prevention, security and emergency preparedness in our schools," said Trump. "A lot of those measures have become part of the school culture."  But he worries about maintaining that culture in the future because of budget constraints. As the risk of violence has increased because of the stress inflicted by the struggling economy, the time and funding allocated to these prevention and safety programs have declined."

4.  (from same link above), I also believe it may well be 'the same as what happened in Aurora':
"This is going to go down as a school shooting, but it's exactly what happened in Aurora," said Bond, referring to the mass shooting by a lone gunman at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., in July that left 12 dead and 58 wounded. "That was a movie theater, this was a school," he added.

5.  Note RT's coverage: http://youtu.be/R1c5VnqIdxQ

6.  What's up with the second gunman? Error?:
 http://www.naturalnews.com/038352_school_shooting_lone_gunman_media_cover-up.html
http://www.ravallirepublic.com/vmix_310426da-3a79-5798-8ae2-aba15d2e5f7d.html

7.  May be off topic, but are there really still 'pocket protectors'? --
Other than that, the genius thing, another similarity to Aurora/Holmes:
http://news.msn.com/us/conn-gunman-recalled-as-intelligent-but-remote

"Adam Lanza attended Newtown High School, and news clippings from recent years show him on the honor roll. Joshua Milas, a classmate who was in the technology club with Lanza, said that he was generally a happy person but that he hadn't seen him in a few years.

"We would hang out, and he was a good kid. He was smart," said Milas, who graduated in 2009. "He was probably one of the smartest kids I know. He was probably a genius."

The tech club held "LAN parties" — short for local area network — in which students would gather at a member's home, hook up their computers into a small network and play games. Gloria Milas, Joshua's mother, said Adam Lanza's mother hosted one of the parties.

She recalled a school meeting in 2008 organized by the gunman's mother to try to save the job of the club's adviser. At the meeting, Milas said, Adam Lanza's brother Ryan said a few words in support of the adviser, who he said had taken his brother under his wing.
"My brother has always been a nerd," Ryan Lanza said then, according to Milas. "He still wears a pocket protector."

8.  Parents -- dad is tax director for G.E.; saw nothing out of the ordinary.  Opinion conflicts with suggestion of 'possible mental disorder' ...? which the other son mentioned.
msn ... hmm
http://news.msn.com/us/conn-gunman-recalled-as-intelligent-but-remote
"Lanza's parents filed for divorce in 2008, according to court records. His father, Peter Lanza, lives in Stamford, Conn., according to public records, and he reportedly works as a tax director for General Electric.

Lanza's aunt Marsha Lanza, of Crystal Lake, Ill., said her nephew was raised by kind, nurturing parents who would not have hesitated to seek mental help for him if he needed it.

If her son had needed counseling, "Nancy wasn't one to deny reality," she said Friday. Marsha Lanza said her husband had seen Adam as recently as June and recalled nothing out of the ordinary."

9.  ?  the lone gunman either had several connections to the school, or nothing recent, or several. The mom was a substitute teacher, but is not on any staff list or any connection found.
http://news.msn.com/us/officials-suspect-had-ties-to-school

vs
 http://news.msn.com/us/conn-gunman-recalled-as-intelligent-but-remote

"A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Adam Lanza attended Sandy Hook school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to the place.

At least one parent said Adam Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher there. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the law enforcement official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.

An official who spoke on condition of anonymity said it was not clear that Adam Lanza had a job, and there was no indication of law enforcement interviews or search warrants at a place of business.

10.  Why did lone gunman have Ryan's, his brother's, ID?  Why did Ryan know or suggest this, if he hadn't seen him in a couple of years?

11.  Who admitted the lone gunman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
"According to a letter sent to parents at the beginning of the year, the school had recently upgraded its security protocol, requiring visitors to be individually admitted after visual and identification review over a video monitor;"

"Adam Lanza may have been admitted to the school by the principal because he was recognized as the son of a colleague.[15] He was described as wearing black military-style gear, including a bullet-proof vest[16][17] and a mask during the shootings."

So ... the principal admitted a guy wearing black military-style gear and -- or at least carrying something bulk enough to be 'military style gear, bullet proof vest, mask, and at least two handguns or a rifle?
Am I getting this right?

12.  note: it took SIX MINUTES? before anyone called 911?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
ie, shooting started at 9:35, 911 call was at 9:41.

13.  Did Adam have autism or aspergers, or what?  Did he have friends, or not?  Friends are quoted as saying he was generally happy and probably 'a genius'.  HE had parties; LAN parties -- his mom hosted one.

14.  Were any teachers or students or other staff, who normally would be present that day, not there -- due to interesting circumstances? What are their other connections?

etc.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: lucy_st1 December 15, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
(continuing)
#15 -- from post above:

Who are these 3 victims, when did they arrive at the hospital?

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: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: lucy_st1 December 15, 2012, 11:41:11 AM
"carried four weapons".
What was that report, and how would this be known? Where are the surveillance videos?
Did no one notice someone carrying four weapons from the parking lot to the classrooms?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting_n_2300831.html
"Reports say that the gunman carried four weapons, and wore black clothing as well as a bullet proof vest."

However, from here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting_n_2300831.html#PHOTOS
    @ DavidGrann : MT @maggiepolitico: Shooter forced his way into the school, per investigators at presser. Not buzzed in by principal as widely reported.

Note than @DavidGrann is part of State Media.

David Grann ‏@DavidGrann
RT @JesseRodriguez: NBC's Pete Williams: Theory of second suspect not looking likely

and from Kelly in the Raw:  http://www.youtube.com/user/KelliInTheRaw?feature=watch
"this one doesn't feel right at all"  http://youtu.be/rsH4l0AK2j8
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 15, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
(http://www.infosalvo.com/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/obama.3f51e0375f9d25c28e46cdb543494004346.jpg)

Obama has caused the death of nearly 200 children in Pakistan

In his second term, it was expected that the U.S. President Barack Obama would reassess America’s controversial foreign policy, especially by ceasing CIA-operated drone attacks on Pakistan. But these aerial strikes continue on Pak tribal areas.

It is worth mentioning that Director General of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt. Gen. Zaheerul Islam, who visited America in August, 2012, emphatically told the then-CIA Director David Petraeus that predator strikes are a violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty that must be stopped. He pointed out that these strikes are proving counterproductive, giving a greater incentive to fundamentalist and extremist elements in Pakistan and are increasing anti-U.S. sentiments among the people.

While addressing the UN General Assembly on September 25, President Asif Ali Zardari said, “Drone strikes and civilian casualties on our territory add to the complexity of our battle for hearts and minds through this epic struggle” against terrorism. 

Read More...
http://www.infosalvo.com/politics/killing-civilians-obama%E2%80%99s-drone-war-in-pakistan/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Valerius December 15, 2012, 11:53:06 AM
Something left out of this?


"Newtown, Conn., Remains In Shock, Horror After Elementary School Massacre"

December 15, 2012 ©2012 CBS Local Media


"...Three crime investigation teams were working at the scene Saturday morning, he said.

Thus, he would have been able to get around the new security system that was put in place earlier this year, which includes a remote control lock and intercom with a video buzzer system to let visitors in..."

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/15/newtown-conn-remains-in-shock-horror-after-elementary-school-massacre/


Something taken out in the edit because that thus does not follow from the preceeding sentence or paragraph.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 15, 2012, 11:58:54 AM
"A federal official also told CBS News on Friday evening that all three weapons recovered in the shooting were, according to state records, bought legally and registered to the gunman’s mother.

The Associated Press reported that more guns were found inside of the school and that state and federal authorities were tracing them."

Ummm what does that mean? Am I just retarded or is there a blatant contradiction there?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-report-of-school-shooting-in-conn/   (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-report-of-school-shooting-in-conn/)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 15, 2012, 11:59:32 AM
how to: DESTROY EVIDENCE school shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RDw0DUpKssA#at=25
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Libertarian Perspective December 15, 2012, 12:06:58 PM
Some help in this Yahoo thread in combating the anti-gun trolls, there are a lot of them.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/newtown-shooting-adam-lanza-leaves-27-dead-071231815.html
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 12:45:27 PM
“I’m Going to Kill Myself on Friday and it Will Make the News”
Did shooter post pre-massacre threat on Internet messageboard?
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 15, 2012
http://www.infowars.com/im-going-to-kill-myself-on-friday-and-it-will-make-the-news/ (http://www.infowars.com/im-going-to-kill-myself-on-friday-and-it-will-make-the-news/)


CT Killer Posts On 4Chan His Plan
Topic started on 14-12-2012 @ 04:42 PM by CALGARIAN
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread907846/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread907846/pg1)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 15, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
“I’m Going to Kill Myself on Friday and it Will Make the News”
Did shooter post pre-massacre threat on Internet messageboard?
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 15, 2012
http://www.infowars.com/im-going-to-kill-myself-on-friday-and-it-will-make-the-news/ (http://www.infowars.com/im-going-to-kill-myself-on-friday-and-it-will-make-the-news/)


CT Killer Posts On 4Chan His Plan
Topic started on 14-12-2012 @ 04:42 PM by CALGARIAN
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread907846/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread907846/pg1)


Do you realize how much of this crap we see on 4chan, especially on /b/.  TONS!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 15, 2012, 01:33:05 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_School_massacre

The Cleveland School massacre (also known as the Stockton schoolyard shooting) occurred on January 17, 1989, at Cleveland Elementary School at 20 East Fulton Street in Stockton, California, United States. The gunman, Patrick Purdy, who had a long criminal history, shot and killed five schoolchildren, and wounded 29 other schoolchildren and one teacher, before committing suicide. His victims were predominantly Southeast Asian refugees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Ann_Spencer

Brenda Ann Spencer (born April 3, 1962) is an American convicted murderer who, at the age of 16, carried out a shooting spree from her home in San Diego, California, on January 29, 1979.
 
During the shooting spree, she killed two people and injured nine others at Cleveland Elementary School, which was located across the street from her home. Spencer showed no remorse for her crime, and her full explanation for her actions was "I don't like Mondays; this livens up the day."[1]

The explanation inspired the song "I Don't Like Mondays", by the Irish, New Wave band The Boomtown Rats, which was a number-one single in the United Kingdom for four weeks in mid-1979.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 01:37:09 PM
Do you realize how much of this crap we see on 4chan, especially on /b/.  TONS!

I read that same sentiment on the threat from abovetopsecret from several people there, and since I don't frequent 4chan, or really know to much about it at all,... and who knows, maybe they're for real but, I maintain scepticism about these posts too.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 15, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
Does anyone see how this destroys the Christmas season?
How can you enjoy it now? How can you say Merry  Christmas now?

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 01:52:22 PM
Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Police Scanner Audio pt. 1 (GRAB THIS AND SAVE IT! (Mentions possible 2nd shooter)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59IXI9g6VE



: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 15, 2012, 01:55:01 PM
I don't want to get off-topic here, but here's one example of how this tragedy is being used to distract from other important agendas on the table...

http://news.yahoo.com/opposition-immigration-reform-may-slowly-fading-050202359.html

.
OPPOSITION TO IMMIGRATION REFORM MAY BE SLOWLY FADING

By Cynthia Tucker | Cynthia Tucker – 13 hrs ago.

Excerpt:

But since Obama won re-election with a hefty assist from Latino voters, several GOP leaders have noted that the party's hostility to immigration reform is a burden. And their constituents may be ready to abandon that stance, too.
 
A November exit poll showed that 65 percent of voters favor giving illegal immigrants a shot at legal status; while 79 percent of Democrats support the idea, 51 percent of Republicans do as well.
 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: DireWolf December 15, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
My heart breaks for the families of those innocent victims but the NWO control freaks are probably celebrating the death and carnage they have orchestrated. I and many others suspected that another term B.H.O. would lead to this type of evil insanity.

For many it's hard to comprehend that as tragic as these staged atrocities are, if the momentum continues in this same general direction, much worse events are yet to follow. A civil, or race war on our soil would be beneficial to the NWO eliminating those "useless eaters" they so despise.

The depth of dread for our country and way of life I now feel is more intense than that felt on Sept 11 2001, and I didn't think that possible.

This tyranny must not continue and those responsible must be held accountable for their crimes against humanity. They are counting on blind rage and emotion to carry their agenda forward, we must remain calm, focused, and rational if we are to have a chance of winning the day without bringing devastation to us all.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 02:03:26 PM
A Tribute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7hn4Zmtb4w


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: poncho December 15, 2012, 02:08:00 PM
Where is the video footage of him entering the building? 

In this big brother era, it should exist... and would answer a lot of questions.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 02:15:13 PM
Where is the video footage of him entering the building? 

In this big brother era, it should exist... and would answer a lot of questions.

You'd think, and especially since they just had a new system installed that required being buzzed in, which means a closed circut system to see the door's buzzer.  This morning they released a brief statement about him breaking into the building:

Connecticut shooting: Gunman forced his way into school, police say
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sandy-hook-school-shooting-20121215,0,5203637.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sandy-hook-school-shooting-20121215,0,5203637.story)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 15, 2012, 02:16:04 PM
A Tribute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7hn4Zmtb4w




  It's over for the dead but never over for all the others---parents, teachers, friends, family, the people of Newtown, the people of Connecticut, and the people of the USA.  I still can't believe someone would kill little kids.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 15, 2012, 02:17:04 PM
LIBOR Batman?
http://deadlinelive.info/2012/12/15/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-according-to-reports/ (http://deadlinelive.info/2012/12/15/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-according-to-reports/)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 15, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Police Scanner Audio pt. 1 (GRAB THIS AND SAVE IT! (Mentions possible 2nd shooter)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59IXI9g6VE





listen up at 51 secs, two shooters!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 02:56:13 PM
Kids died in Connecticut school shooting, but not in China attack. Column: Time to take a stand on gun control
David Callaway, USA TODAY2:11p.m. EST December 15, 2012

Column: Gun control is a divisive issue, and in the U.S. politicians are barely able to discuss it. Now, however, President Obama and Congress have a chance to make history and address changes.

McLean, Va – Several hours before Adam Lanza shot and killed 20 children and six adults Friday in an attack on a school in Newtown, Conn., a 36-year-old man a half-a-world away in China attacked 22 children at a primary school. None of the kids died. The reason? The man in China had only a knife.
_______________________________

This kind of drivel is all over the net right now, and I wouldn't trouble with it as such except for being a great example of poor logic, virtual complete ignorance of history, and a ethics-free ethos argument.

Knives and swords have been used for thousands of years as a primary tool of war.  They are potentially lethal, as are spears, bows and clubs,... not to mention sticks and stones.  Unaccountable governments, vaccines, big pharma drugs, and malnutrition are far more potentialy lethal than most handheld weapons, even if you're Jessie Ventura with a gatling gun - sorry, no offence Governor.  So, at this point the solution is almost too easy if I worn my bleeding heart on my sleeve:  get rid of the real threat, or at the very, very, very least admit what the real threat is.  But no, some assert that guns alone are the problem.

And as for using China as a model of State perfection (we know where that goes), before this latest string of violence, there were other strings of violence:  Aug 2, 2012, "This latest in a series of knife attacks brings the total number of people killed in targeted acts of violence in the People’s Republic of China to 28 people with nearly 60 wounded in the past twenty four months.  Many other victims have been killed and wounded in a series of firearms and knife attacks as well as in attacks without weapons in Chinese schools over the past decade." link (http://www.safehavensinternational.org/signs-of-a-global-phenomenon-chinese-teens-deadly-rampage-leaves-eight-dead-and-five-more-wounded/)

The vast majority of well meaning, scared stiff, PTSDed out parents calling for the guns right now are the some ones, as Mike Adam's points out beautifully, that will sit their kid infront of a psychological conditioning tool whose content they do not control and yet these parents trust and treat that boob tube like it was a babysitter.  Furthermore, and perhaps even more disturbing, is the fact, and I mean FACT, that the vast majority of the gun grabbers are the same ones who supported our Nobel Peace Prized Humanitarian Love Bomber, el Presidente Barry Sotero Obama in the last election despite his policies of torture, extraordinary rendition, secret kill lists, drone strikes, criminal foreign wars and unending occupations.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Valerius December 15, 2012, 03:20:59 PM
Even the local news is has "experts" talking forced helplessness nonsense. They aren't even pretending to be unbiased or multiple sides.

Is this the same at y'all's place?

If only people were more helpless everything would be great!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
Does anyone see how this destroys the Christmas season?
How can you enjoy it now? How can you say Merry  Christmas now?



They're understandably having trouble with it in Newtown:

"People in my neighborhood are feeling guilty about it being Christmas. They are taking down decorations," said Jeannie Pasacreta, a psychologist who volunteered her services and was advising parents struggling with how to talk to their children.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-connecticut-school-shooting-20121215,0,4744013.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-connecticut-school-shooting-20121215,0,4744013.story)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 15, 2012, 03:45:07 PM
They're understandably having trouble with it in Newtown:

"People in my neighborhood are feeling guilty about it being Christmas. They are taking down decorations," said Jeannie Pasacreta, a psychologist who volunteered her services and was advising parents struggling with how to talk to their children.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-connecticut-school-shooting-20121215,0,4744013.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-connecticut-school-shooting-20121215,0,4744013.story)

  To me, (just an old dad talking) the worst thing they could do is not have Christmas.  The healing has to start sometime.  Why not during the break?  If I was there with kids, I would take some time off with my kids and maybe leave the city of Newtown for a week and talk to my kids.  SKIPPING CHRISTMAS FOR ANYONE IN THAT TOWN WILL ONLY MAKE MATTERS WORSE.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 03:48:01 PM
FOX:  correcting prior reports,... 3 guns found inside of the school, all registered to his mother, more found at his mother's house

Wayne Carver, corrinors report:  victims had from 3 to 11 gun shots wounds each, he believes each victim was hit more than once, shoots landing all over each body, most wounds caused with rifle (children and school staff), the shooter and his mother's results will be finished later tonight

so hard to watch that, wow
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 03:48:55 PM
  To me, (just an old dad talking) the worst thing they could do is not have Christmas.  The healing has to start sometime.  Why not during the break?  If I was there with kids, I would take some time off with my kids and maybe leave the city of Newtown for a week and talk to my kids.  SKIPPING CHRISTMAS FOR ANYONE IN THAT TOWN WILL ONLY MAKE MATTERS WORSE.

I couldn't agree more.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 15, 2012, 04:03:05 PM
Conn. school victims shot up rifle multiple times
http://www.khou.com/news/Conn-school-shooting-deaths-all-gunshot-wounds-183647031.html

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Letsbereal December 15, 2012, 04:10:23 PM
Father of Alleged Connecticut Shooter is VP of GE Capital According to Reports
15 December 2012
, by Jack Blood (Deadline Live)
http://deadlinelive.info/2012/12/15/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-according-to-reports/#respond

Echos of the Batman Massacre – James Holmes father a high priest of computer economics at FICO – Allegedly investigating the LIBOR scandal which has indeed faded after the Aurora shootings…

GE Capital is onwed by GE – yeah THAT GE that operates outside of the law!

Founded by JP Morgan to corner the market in electricity (stolen Tesla patents) – GE is now a media – military industrial complex kingpin!

Morgan Stanley has also been implicated in the LIBOR Scandal! Lanza’s father was “questioned by Police”

According to Yahoo news, the alleged shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, Adam Lanza, is the son of Vice President of GE Capital, Peter Lanza.

Peter Lanza is also a partner at Ernst & Young, and major accounting firm. The older brother, Ryan Lanza, is also reported to be employed at Ernst & Young.

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam’s older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father’s footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice.

He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 04:30:15 PM
Tragedy in Connecticut: (IMPORTANT VIDEO FOR PEOPLE TO SEE!)
http://www.4shared.com/video/l0KrgYCY/Trag...onnecticut.html (http://www.4shared.com/video/l0KrgYCY/Tragedy_in_Connecticut.html)

Youtube is being their usual unAmerican selves, so I had to upload this to another site. If you like this video, and wish to share it on You Tube, please reupload it to You Tube! Important for people to see! Thx!

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 04:51:14 PM
Oops, posted two by accident. Please Op, delete the first one of these!  :)


If you can't view this video, please let me know. I will keep trying to get it up on You Tube also. Not successful yet! :(

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 15, 2012, 05:14:49 PM
Father of Alleged Connecticut Shooter is VP of GE Capital According to Reports
15 December 2012
, by Jack Blood (Deadline Live)
http://deadlinelive.info/2012/12/15/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-according-to-reports/#respond

Echos of the Batman Massacre – James Holmes father a high priest of computer economics at FICO – Allegedly investigating the LIBOR scandal which has indeed faded after the Aurora shootings…

GE Capital is onwed by GE – yeah THAT GE that operates outside of the law!

Founded by JP Morgan to corner the market in electricity (stolen Tesla patents) – GE is now a media – military industrial complex kingpin!

Morgan Stanley has also been implicated in the LIBOR Scandal! Lanza’s father was “questioned by Police”

According to Yahoo news, the alleged shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, Adam Lanza, is the son of Vice President of GE Capital, Peter Lanza.

Peter Lanza is also a partner at Ernst & Young, and major accounting firm. The older brother, Ryan Lanza, is also reported to be employed at Ernst & Young.

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam’s older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father’s footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice.

He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.

I may be missing something really obvious here, I'm struggling to make the connection between the two.  Please help enlighten.

Thanks
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 15, 2012, 05:37:08 PM
Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Police Scanner Audio pt. 1 (GRAB THIS AND SAVE IT! (Mentions possible 2nd shooter)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59IXI9g6VE

Police Scanner...
Make sure you get a COPY before they pull it as Copyright or some other Lie
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 15, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
listen up at 51 secs, two shooters!

Exactly....
Make sure you ALL get a COPY

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 15, 2012, 06:00:02 PM
We've been told since it happened that the guns recovered belonged to the shooter's mother.  Now even that is in doubt:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121214/us-connecticut-school-shooting-guns/
posted 12-14, 9:30pm
--The official cautions that investigators haven't conclusively linked the guns used in the rampage to the ones the woman owned.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 15, 2012, 06:06:56 PM
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/15/even_rupert_murdoch_wants_tighter_gun_control/

12/15/12

Even Rupert Murdoch wants tighter gun control

Rupert Murdoch ✔
@rupertmurdoch

Terrible news today. When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons? As in Oz after similar tragedy.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 15, 2012, 06:24:21 PM
RIP to the deceased victims:


Charlotte Bacon, 6
Daniel Barden, 7
Rachel Davino, 29
Olivia Engel, 6
Josephine Gay, 7
Ana Marquez-Greene, 6
Dawn Hochsprung, 47
Dylan Hockley, 6
Madeline Hsu, 6
Catherine Hubbard, 6
Chase Kowalski, 7
Nancy J Lanza
Jesse Lewis, 6
James Mattioli, 6
Grace McDonnell, 7
Anne Marie Murphy, 52
Emilie Parker, 6
Jack Pinto, 6
Noah Pozner, 6
Caroline Previdi, 6
Jessica Rekos, 6
Avielle Richman, 6
Lauren Rousseau, 30
Mary Sherlach, 56
Victoria Soto, 27
Benjamin Wheeler, 6
Allison Wyatt, 6

-------------

All the deceased children were six or seven years of age. So why did the President say they were between 5 and 10 years old in his news conference? You'd think he at least would have the correct scoop.....
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 06:45:32 PM
Nancy Lanza, Adam's mother, owned her guns legally, and he stole them.  Adam killed her and then many, many more, with a type of excessive force that should be described as monstrous, hellish, twisted and depraved.  This is not a gun control issue.  It is an issue of a seriously mentally ill spree killer that was disuaded by the legal procedures of legal firearm ownership, and likely because of his history of mental illness, knew he would face potential denial.


____________

"The two semiautomatic pisols and .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle Lanza used in the shooting were registered to his mother, whom several witnesses identified as an avid gun collector. She apparently taught her kids how to shoot the guns. The owner of a landscaping business who recently decorated her yard for Christmas tells Reuters she once showed him a “really nice, high-end rifle” that she purchased. “She said she would often go target shooting with her kids.”" - slate.com (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/12/15/nancy_lanza_school_teacher_sandy_hook_elementary_shooting.html)



"According to a report at nbcnews.com Adam Lanza, who murdered twenty children and six adults at the Sandy Hook Elementary School yesterday, had tried to buy a rifle at a Dick’s Sporting Good store on Tuesday. “Adam Lanza, 20, went to a Dick’s Sporting Goods store in Danbury, Conn., on Tuesday to buy the weapon, but was turned down because he didn’t want to undergo a background check or abide by the state’s waiting period for gun sales, the officials said.”" - TruthAboutGuns.com (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/daniel-zimmerman/adam-lanza-tried-to-buy-rifle-three-days-before-massacre/)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: All4truth December 15, 2012, 06:51:13 PM
Wis. lawmaker wants teachers to carry guns

He cites Israel, Thailand; school official says problems are not that bad

MADISON, Wis. — In the wake of school shootings in Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania during the last two weeks, a state legislator says he plans to introduce legislation that would allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons.

Rep. Frank Lasee, a Republican, said Wednesday that, while his idea may not be politically correct, it has worked effectively in other countries.

"To make our schools safe for our students to learn, all options should be on the table," he said. "Israel and Thailand have well-trained teachers carrying weapons and keeping their children safe from harm. It can work in Wisconsin."

In Thailand, where officials have been waging a bloody fight with Muslim separatists for the last two years, some teachers carry weapons for self defense as they are viewed as part of the government. In Israel, teachers are not allowed to carry weapons in the school, but security guards at the entrances are armed.
Lasee stressed that the measure would hinge on school staff members getting strict training on the use of the weapons. He also acknowledged he would have to work around a federal law that bans guns on school grounds.

The director of school safety for Milwaukee Public Schools, Pete Pochowski, expressed opposition to Lasee's proposal.

"Statistically, the safest place for a child to be is in school," Pochowski said. "We have problems in our schools, but not to the point where we need to arm our teachers and principals."
Children in countries such as Israel and Thailand are far more vulnerable to daily violence than students in America, he said.

"In the country we live in, we have a lot of freedom," Pochowski said, "and we have to expose ourselves to some danger to keep that."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15142930/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/wis-lawmaker-wants-teachers-carry-guns/#.UM0L6Iqp7cN
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 07:05:38 PM
one report puts Nancy Lanza as a prior volunteer at the school, but not an employee



Reports: Nancy Lanza Wasn’t A Teacher At Sandy Hook Elementary
by Anjali Sareen | 11:08 am, December 15th, 2012
http://www.mediaite.com/online/reports-nancy-lanza-wasnt-a-teacher-at-sandy-hook-elementary/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/reports-nancy-lanza-wasnt-a-teacher-at-sandy-hook-elementary/)

Despite earlier reports that Nancy Lanza, mother of shooter Adam Lanza, was a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School, new details are emerging that suggest otherwise. CNN, The Wall Street Journal, and several other news outlets are reporting now that Nancy Lanza may not have had any connection to the school where the shootings took place.

Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary, told CNN that Lanza was not a teacher there.

Lillian Bittman, a former school board official, said “no one has heard” of Lanza and that “teachers don’t know her.” Talking Points Memo reports that Lanza is not listed on the Newton School District Website. TPM also notes the origin of the misinformation may have been an AP story which quoted law enforcement officials “speaking on the condition of anonymity” about Lanza’s possible connection to school.

Other sources, such as The New York Times and Washington Post, each still have stories claiming Lanza was a teacher Sandy Hook Elementary.

At this time, the Sandy Hook Police have not commented on Nancy Lanza’s possible involvement in the school, if any.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 07:21:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59IXI9g6VE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59IXI9g6VE)
listen up at 51 secs, two shooters!

That's some interesting stuff.  No wonder they're keeping the press conferences so tidy and official, and yet nearly every 'fact' given to the press has been changed at least once.  

Roughly ten seconds after the two shadows moving past the gym reference another officer goes on,...

"Yeah, we got 'em." followed by a brief pause, what sounds like another officer chiming in loud and heavily breathing voice, "They're coming at me, (garbled) point (?).  Coming up the driveway.  Left side."

"56, this is it."  yet another office ominously rounds out the seemed encounter.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 15, 2012, 07:44:39 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/154914_521103677908009_1581930133_n.jpg)
Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened yesterday :


"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Theo42 December 15, 2012, 07:54:24 PM
Around the 4:55 mark, one officer says there is a Rifle and Shotgun.  Not sure where that is in reference to.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Letsbereal December 15, 2012, 07:56:50 PM
I may be missing something really obvious here, I'm struggling to make the connection between the two.  Please help enlighten.

Thanks

I think the point made here is that if these events where organized by the gov. they always look for multiple ways to profit from it. So these satanist never profit from it from one angle but always look to profit from it on two or more angles.

Like when building 7 was demolished on 911 they destroyed a lot of records on Enron and the Bush family beside the motive for installing the police state. They also got rid of a lot of bodies which were stacked in the 7 building.

In the Joe Stack case they didn't succeeded in doing that. They brought Geithner up there to profit from the IRS victimizing role but reporters of Infowars prevented him in doing that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq61CzUS3dY

The writer of this piece is suggesting that in the Holmes case they not only are after a gun ban but at the same time threatened Holmes father into submission. Ergo: We should look for multiple angles in this case also maybe lying in the fact that Adam Lanza's father, Peter Lanza, is working for GE Capital and maybe working on something which they like him to back off of.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/154914_521103677908009_1581930133_n.jpg)
Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened yesterday :


"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."


Well said, Mr. Freeman!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Theo42 December 15, 2012, 08:02:33 PM
At 4:05. sounds like the same officere who said they are coming at me saying, "We have one suspect down".

Not sure if that is for the 'known' shooter or the 2 guys who were outside.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 08:03:11 PM
Around the 4:55 mark, one officer says there is a Rifle and Shotgun.  Not sure where that is in reference to.



I believe he was calling for backup, saying, "be advised, they should have long rifles and shotguns".  However, it is quite distorted so I can't be too certain.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
one report puts Nancy Lanza as a prior volunteer at the school, but not an employee


I heard the lady Superintendent of Schools say that also!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 08:17:30 PM
At 4:05. sounds like the same officere who said they are coming at me saying, "We have one suspect down".

Not sure if that is for the 'known' shooter or the 2 guys who were outside.

It does sound that way, and the report that an individual on the phone with police was currently hearing gun fire at about 0:15, the shooting appears to have stopped by one officer's account at 0:32 followed by the same officer declaring the school in lockdown at 0:39.

The reports, you first referenced around 0:50, of the shadows running outside past the gym comes from a witness inside, followed, by the officer who stated,  "Yeah, we got 'em." followed by a brief pause, what sounds like another officer chiming in loud and heavily breathing voice, "They're coming at me, (garbled) point (?).  Coming up the driveway.  Left side."

"56, this is it."

It does sound like there're two suspects outside and one inside.   
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 08:49:00 PM

I heard the lady Superintendent of Schools say that also!

I think that's a different source from the one FOX reported on.  I think I remember her saying the report came from somebody's sister.  Info came out just after the corrinor's report.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
Tragedy in Connecticut: (IMPORTANT VIDEO FOR PEOPLE TO SEE!)
http://www.4shared.com/video/l0KrgYCY/Trag...onnecticut.html (http://www.4shared.com/video/l0KrgYCY/Tragedy_in_Connecticut.html)

You can also download this video directly here: (Please download and watch. Includes mention of 2nd Amendment and how guns are a visible cause of this tragedy, but there are many more invisible causes that the powers that be won't address and they must be addressed!)
http://www.mediafire.com/?woeuap838b095uy
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 09:45:45 PM
Malcolm X on gun control and the draft

Posted by Norman Singleton on March 7, 2005 09:17 PM
lewrockwell.com (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/7585.html)


Read these quotes and you will understand why Murray Rothbard preferred Malcolm to King, also be sure to check out "Their Malcolm and Mine" from The Irrepressible Rothbard:
 
"It is legal and lawful to own a shotgun or a rifle. We believe in obeying the law."
 
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 "Well, you - heh! -- if a criminal comes around your house with his gun, brother, just because he's got a gun and he's robbing your house, brother, and he's a robber, it doesn't make you a robber because you grab your gun and run him out. No, see, the man is using some tricky logic on you."
 
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"If violence is wrong in America, violence is wrong abroad. If it is wrong to be violent defending black women and black children and black babies and black men, then it is wrong for America to draft us, and make us violent abroad in defense of her. And if it is right for America to draft us, and teach us how to be violent in defense of her, then it is right for you and me to do whatever is necessary to defend our own people right here in this country."
 
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"Last but not least, I must say this concerning the great controversy over rifles and shotguns. The only thing I've ever said is that in areas where the government has proven itself either unwilling or unable to defend the lives and the property of Negroes, it's time for Negroes to defend themselves. Article number two of the Constitutional amendments provides you and me the right to own a rifle or a shotgun. It is constitutionally legal to own a shotgun or a rifle. This doesn't mean you're going to get a rifle and form battalions and go out looking for white folks, although you'd be within your rights - I mean, you'd be justified; but that would be illegal and we don't do anything illegal. If the white man doesn't want the black man buying rifles and shotguns, then let the government do its job. That's all."

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 15, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
FLASHBACK! Classy Father of 9 year old victim said after the Arizona shootings "Don't exploit my daughters death to revoke freedoms":
http://www.prisonplanet.com/classy-father-of-9-year-old-victim-dont-exploit-my-daughters-death-to-revoke-freedoms.html


THIS FATHER LOST HIS DAUGHTER AND HE HONORS HER BY UNDERSTANDING WHAT AMERICAN FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT, AND IT'S TIME THAT WASHINGTON STARTED SHOWING US THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT AMERICAN FREEDOM IS REALLY ABOUT! ANY SO CALLED LEADER IN DC WHO STILL DOESN'T GET THIS ONE, IS NO LEADER PERIOD AND I WOULD ALSO QUESTION THEIR PATRIOTISM TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 09:52:14 PM
FLASHBACK! Classy Father of 9 year old victim said after the Arizona shootings "Don't exploit my daughters death to revoke freedoms":
http://www.prisonplanet.com/classy-father-of-9-year-old-victim-dont-exploit-my-daughters-death-to-revoke-freedoms.html


THIS FATHER LOST HIS DAUGHTER AND HE HONORS HER BY UNDERSTANDING WHAT AMERICAN FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT, AND IT'S TIME THAT WASHINGTON STARTED SHOWING US THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT AMERICAN FREEDOM IS REALLY ABOUT! ANY SO CALLED LEADER IN DC WHO STILL DOESN'T GET THIS ONE, IS NO LEADER PERIOD AND I WOULD ALSO QUESTION THEIR PATRIOTISM TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY!

Had we more men of such metal fewer children would grow into the monsters that have been vigilant against.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 09:56:16 PM
MLK and His Guns
Adam Winkler, HuffPo (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/mlk-and-his-guns_b_810132.html)
Professor of Law, UCLA
Posted: January 18, 2011 08:25 AM

One issue on everyone's mind this Martin Luther King Jr. day was gun control. King's calls for resolving our differences through peaceful nonviolence are especially poignant after Jared Loughner gunned down six people and wounded several others in Tucson. Amid the clamor for new gun laws, its appropriate to remember King's complicated history with guns.

Most people think King would be the last person to own a gun. Yet in the mid-1950s, as the civil rights movement heated up, King kept firearms for self-protection. In fact, he even applied for a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

A recipient of constant death threats, King had armed supporters take turns guarding his home and family. He had good reason to fear that the Klan in Alabama was targeting him for assassination.

William Worthy, a journalist who covered the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, reported that once, during a visit to King's parsonage, he went to sit down on an armchair in the living room and, to his surprise, almost sat on a loaded gun. Glenn Smiley, an adviser to King, described King's home as "an arsenal."

...it goes on...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Valerius December 15, 2012, 10:06:52 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacons_for_Defense_and_Justice
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear ARMS shall not be infringed."


ar·ma·ment (ärm-mnt)
n.
1. The weapons and supplies of war with which a military unit is equipped.
2. All the military forces and war equipment of a country. Often used in the plural.
3. A military force equipped for war.
4. The process of arming for war.
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[Latin armmenta, tools, from arma, arms; see arm(2).]
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 15, 2012, 10:34:59 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacons_for_Defense_and_Justice

Nice post.  Wiki quote:

"The Deacons for Defense and Justice was an armed self-defense African-American civil rights organization in the U.S. Southern states during the 1960s. Historically, the organization practiced self-defense methods in the face of racist oppression that was carried out by Jim Crow Laws; local and state agencies; and the Ku Klux Klan."

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 16, 2012, 12:35:25 AM
The media keeps telling us the guns found in school belonged to the mother, though the evidence may not show that:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121214/us-connecticut-school-shooting-guns/
posted 12-14, 9:30pm
-The official cautions that investigators haven't conclusively linked the guns used in the rampage to the ones the woman owned.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/adam-lanzas-mom-pulled-school-relative/story?id=17985433
Police have not confirmed that hers were the weapons used in the slayings.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza/story?id=17975673
Nancy Lanza had numerous weapons registered to her, including a Glock and a Sig Sauer. She also owned a Bushmaster rifle -- a semi-automatic carbine chambered for a .223 caliber round. However, federal authorities cannot confirm that the handguns or the rifle were the weapons recovered at the school.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559395/conn-school-shooter-had-4-weapons/
The Associated Press reports a Henry repeating rifle, an Enfield rifle and a shotgun were recovered. It was not clear exactly where those weapons were found.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-adam-lanza-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215,0,2311968.story
Marsha Lanza, Adam Lanza's aunt, said it was her understanding that Nancy Lanza kept three guns in the home.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559261/20-children-6-adults-killed-in-conn-elementary-school-massacre/
His mother had legally registered four weapons, his father two.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9746267/Connecticut-school-shooting-live.html
 Lanza tried to purchase a rifle earlier this week at a store in Danbury, Connecticut, according to NBC News.

If the aunt is correct that Nancy Lanza only had three weapons in her home, they could have been the Enfield, the Henry, and the shotgun.  Which means the two pistols and the two rifles found at the murder scene did not belong to her.  Which raises the question of how did Adam Lanza get them?  If he really did try to buy a rifle a week before, it strongly implies he didn't have any weapons ready for the assault--no Sig, no Glock, and no Bushmaster.  So who put these guns in his hands?  Or can they even claim they found Lanza's fingerprints on them?  I'll bet they can't.



Other anomalies:

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http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-timeline-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215,0,1878564.story
Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach, shocked by the sounds of gunfire and shattering glass, bolted into a corridor from a conference room across the hall from the classrooms.

I thought they were in the principal's office?  Now it's a conference room?

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9746267/Connecticut-school-shooting-live.html
--Dr Carver says the bodies of the 26 victims are all ready to be released and that parents were shown pictures, rather being taken to see the actual bodies, as they identified them.

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/national-news/priests-horrible-job-of-telling-newtown-parents-of-childrens.html
A Newtown, Conn., priest had the "horrible" job of going door-to-door informing families early Saturday morning that their children had been killed in the elementary school massacre.

Why would the priest have to inform the parent's personally of the death of their children if they had already ID'ed their dead kid via photos?  Do you get the feeling they are making this stuff up as they go along?

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 16, 2012, 12:41:03 AM
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/15/even_rupert_murdoch_wants_tighter_gun_control/

12/15/12

Even Rupert Murdoch wants tighter gun control

Rupert Murdoch ✔
@rupertmurdoch

Terrible news today. When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons? As in Oz after similar tragedy.

Rupert Murdoch is as far left as they get.

He runs pro war / far right crap in USA  Then he bashes USA in his overseas news outlets for all the wars his USA outlet supports.

The guy needs to be tar and feathered.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Brocke December 16, 2012, 01:37:28 AM
Interesting quote.

...it’s because of the way the media reports it.

Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN’s article says that if the body count “holds up”, this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I’ve seen yet. Because they don’t sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you’ve just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man’s name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news.

~attributed to Morgan Freeman (not verified)

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/foghorn/quote-of-the-late-night-maybe-morgan-freeman-edition/#more-178845
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 16, 2012, 01:41:21 AM
Geraldo on FOX pushing an officer Crumkie in every school.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: empire December 16, 2012, 02:00:09 AM
Man I wonder if this really is the straw that breaks the Second Amendment's back.
The media really is going all out. It's one huge gun bashing session.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 16, 2012, 05:59:30 AM
Man I wonder if this really is the straw that breaks the Second Amendment's back.
The media really is going all out. It's one huge gun bashing session.

Yup, this what happened in other countries, so it is a known method that is known to work.

See Also
Dunblane massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre)
Port Arthur massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_%28Australia%29)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 16, 2012, 06:27:16 AM
How many more will die before the public realizes what is going on?

How much evidence, and even facts, are needed to convince people that their own country is being taken over from within by wicked, evil people?

May God have mercy!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 16, 2012, 07:21:47 AM
Anyone think Obama will lead by example and disarm the Govt Agencies first .. .. .. ..  ?

Will he
    "Lead by Example",
or will he say
    "Don't do as I do , Do as I say"
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Libertarian Perspective December 16, 2012, 07:35:02 AM
I hope so, that would be good, government agencies disarmed first while the people maintain their right to bear arms, it-s the way it used to be in the old times and this is the way it should be nowadays.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 16, 2012, 07:55:36 AM
listen up at 51 secs, two shooters!
Look at this:  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1402038_School_shooting_in_CT___many_children_and_adults_reported_dead.html&page=63 (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1402038_School_shooting_in_CT___many_children_and_adults_reported_dead.html&page=63)

Originally Posted By HiCal888:
"3 shooters? That would explain why the ME says some were shot with .223s but the supposed AR was found in the trunk of a car.

"It that police tape is real.

That blows me away."

http://youtu.be/p_ODW4JG9y8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ODW4JG9y8&feature=youtu.be

Published on Dec 15, 2012

LINKS IN ORDER OR PRESENTATION:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl4oDghXLP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59IXI9g6VE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui39_EczmAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2bwsraMRY

^ more to download
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 16, 2012, 09:33:01 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhO0Pul_FcE&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhO0Pul_FcE&feature=player_embedded)


The TRUE SOURCE of RANDOM & MASS SHOOTING and VIOLENCE

PSYCH DRUGS
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 16, 2012, 11:59:19 AM
The Sheriff of Newtown briefing:  the perpetraters of the false identities of the shooter from within social media will be investigated as threatening


...I think he's referencing the 4chan stuff...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 16, 2012, 12:19:06 PM
Dead victim quoted!  From another website:

Originally posted by Steffenfield
Shooting Reported Sandy Hook Elementary School (http://newtownbee.com/News/News/2012-12-14__11-05-25/Shooting+Reported+Sandy+Hook+Elementary+School)
Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple sho(t)s – more than she could count – that went "on and on."

The Principal was supposedly the first to die.

This story came from the town's newspaper.
 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Theo42 December 16, 2012, 12:28:10 PM
Dead victim quoted!  From another website:

The Principal was supposedly the first to die.

This story came from the town's newspaper.
 
Wow...

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: empire December 16, 2012, 12:33:42 PM
Yup, this what happened in other countries, so it is a known method that is known to work.

See Also
Dunblane massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre)
Port Arthur massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_%28Australia%29)

You know what is sad crazy... If we stop and actually think rationally for just a second.

Even if these new gun laws, that are being called for, were in effect it, would have had ZERO IMPACT on this tragedy; unless those new laws banned hand guns and semi-automatics as well.

The guns that were used were purchased and LEGALLY owned by his mother.

So what exactly are people calling for here? Should the mother not have had the right to own any guns?

Throughout history emotion has been used to clamp down on freedoms and liberty; used to justify and violate human rights, including herding all the Japanese in America into prison camps during World War II.

These are dangerous times.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 16, 2012, 12:44:16 PM
how to: DESTROY EVIDENCE school shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RDw0DUpKssA#at=25
Note how it is nighttime in the video, yet the shooting took place in the morning.  So it took them at least eight hours to discover this rifle in the truck.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Tokiem December 16, 2012, 12:48:54 PM

ABC News poll question, "Should there be stricter gun control laws?", found half way down on right side of page.

http://abcnews.go.com/ (http://abcnews.go.com/)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 16, 2012, 12:51:31 PM
fyi - Connecticut is the Illuminati homeland.


Barack Obama's small town guns and religion comments

Barack's comments that are generating all of the controversy: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxXUufI3jA)
...

http://www.chron.com/default/article/Father-of-Conn-school-gunman-We-too-ask-why-4121522.php
Peter Lanza, the father of 20-year-old Adam Lanza, who shot to death his mother in their home and then slaughtered 26 people in an elementary school before killing himself, issued the following statement Saturday

Reporter Is First To Tell Adam Lanza’s Father of Connection to Shooting (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/12/15/peter_lanza_reporter_tells_adam_lanza_father_of_connection_to_sandy_hook.html)

Peter Lanza’s home in Stamford, Conn., around 40 miles from Newtown, Conn
Peter Lanza is a vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services, according to his LinkedIn profile.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=82504461
Peter Lanza, now a vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services, agreed to annual alimony payments that started at $240,000 and would have reached $298,800 in 2015

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/peter-lanza/11/515/83b
Past
Tax Leader - Partnerships, JVs and REITs at General Electric
Senior Tax Manager at Ernst & Young
Vice President - Tax at PaineWebber Properties

http://seekingalpha.com/article/105984-general-electric-gets-a-140b-bailout-what-s-the-point-of-aaa
General Electric Gets a $140B Bailout - What's the Point of AAA?
...
 G.E.'s financial services business may be the blackest box on Wall Street. The unit has little transparency, no regulatory oversight, and now, we are finding out, an unstable funding model.

Obama advisor Jeffrey Immelt on tv show; "Communisim Works".

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/immelt-communist-china-works_665280.html
Yes GE and Obama - it is the "New" communism and he likes it. This really is the post WWII MIC economy coming out of the shadows. Oh and don't forget that Charlie Rose is a regular Bilderberg attendee

http://www.ge.com/audio_video/ge/careers/china_this_is_ge_china.html
China: This is GE China - With every one of GE's businesses present, China is GE's second home

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_R._Immelt
Jeffrey Robert "Jeff" Immelt (born February 19, 1956) is an American business executive. He is currently the chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the U.S.-based conglomerate General Electric. He was selected by GE's Board of Directors in 2000 to replace Jack Welch following his retirement. Previously, Immelt had headed up GE's Medical Systems division (now known as GE Healthcare) as its President and CEO.
...
His tenure as chairman and CEO started off on a low note - he took over the role on September 7, 2001,[7] just four days before the terrorist attacks on the United States, which killed two employees and cost GE's insurance business $600 million, as well as having a direct effect on the company's Aircraft Engines sector
...
Immelt lives with his wife Andrea in New Canaan, Connecticut. ( Illuminati country)
...
In February 2009, Immelt was appointed as a member to the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board to provide the president and his administration with advice and counsel in fixing America's economic downturn
...
On January 21, 2011, President Obama announced Immelt's appointment as chairman of his outside panel of economic advisers, succeeding former Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker
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Immelt will retain his post at GE while becoming "chairman of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, a newly named panel that President Obama is creating by executive order."[17] Despite this, in July 2011 Immelt's General Electric announced that it is in the process of relocating its X-ray division from Wisconsin to China.[18][19] Immelt had previously referred to China as GE's "second home market

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/06/fed-members-gave-their-own-banks-4-trillion-in-secret-bailouts-2264415.html

Federal Reserve Board Members Gave Their Own Banks $4 Trillion in Bailouts

2. Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of General Electric, served on the New York Fed’s Board of Directors from 2006-2011. General Electric received $16 billion in low- interest financing from the Federal Reserve’s Commercial Paper Funding Facility during this time period.

The GAO study found that allowing members of the banking industry to both elect and serve on the Federal Reserve’s board of directors creates “an appearance of a conflict of interest” and poses “reputational risks” to the Federal Reserve System

WASHINGTON – June 12 2012 – More than $4 trillion in near zero-interest Federal Reserve loans and other financial assistance went to the banks and businesses of at least 18 current and former Federal Reserve regional bank directors in the aftermath of the 2008 financial collapse, according to Government Accountability Office records made public for the first time today by Sen. Bernie Sanders.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/07/20/titanic-banks-hit-libor-iceberg/
Bid-rigging was the subject of U.S. v. Carollo, Goldberg and Grimm, a ten-year suit in which the U.S. Department of Justice obtained a judgment on May 11 against three GE Capital employees.  

Billions of dollars were skimmed from cities all across America by colluding to rig the public bids on municipal bonds, a business worth $3.7 trillion.  Other banks involved in the bidding scheme included Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo and UBS.  These banks have already paid a total of $673 million in restitution after agreeing to cooperate in the government’s case

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-scam-wall-street-learned-from-the-mafia-20120620
June 21, 2012
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The defendants in the case – Dominick Carollo, Steven Goldberg and Peter Grimm – worked for GE Capital, the finance arm of General Electric. Along with virtually every major bank and finance company on Wall Street – not just GE, but J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America, UBS, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Wachovia and more – these three Wall Street wiseguys spent the past decade taking part in a breathtakingly broad scheme to skim billions of dollars from the coffers of cities and small towns across America. The banks achieved this gigantic rip-off by secretly colluding to rig the public bids on municipal bonds, a business worth $3.7 trillion
...
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: bento December 16, 2012, 12:57:22 PM
I can't believe the amount of "solders" coming out and saying no civilian should own an assault weapon. They have too many rounds and will kill lots of people. Then again how do we know that these people are actual solders? You do not need to Id to register to comment on these sites. It would scare me more if the majority of the military wanted to disarm citizens, especially when they are being deployed in more domestic situations now.
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: starvosan December 16, 2012, 01:03:17 PM
I can't believe the amount of "solders" coming out and saying no civilian should own an assault weapon.
And the politicians too.  It's the Mockingbird chorus, cranking the mighty Wurlitzer up to catapult the propaganda.
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: Letsbereal December 16, 2012, 01:25:01 PM
Aurora Batman shooter & Connecticut school shooter father's both to tesify in Libor Bank scandal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUZMMQIqnI
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: TahoeBlue December 16, 2012, 01:30:36 PM
oh and this will help:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/16/indiana-47-guns-arrest-elementary-school
Indiana police find 47 guns in arrest over threat to elementary school
16 December 2012 12.43 EST

Cedar Lake police arrest 60-year-old man alleged to have threatened to 'kill as many people as he could' at school

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/dec/16/newtown-school-shooting-sunday-talkshows-live
Obama to visit Newtown as shooting revives debate over gun control - live

Live President Obama to speak at a vigil in Newtown tonight, as calls for gun control are revived in the aftermath of shooting
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: Sasha December 16, 2012, 01:37:59 PM
Banning Guns In the U.K. Has Backfired
Published Friday, September 3, 2004,
Wall Street Journal Europe - full article (http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/BritainToyGunsWSJE.html)
By John R. Lott, Jr.

exerpt:

...Yet, since 1996 the serious violent crime rate has soared by 69%: robbery is up by 45% and murders up by 54%. Before the law, armed robberies had fallen by 50% from 1993 to 1997, but as soon as handguns were banned the robbery rate shot back up, almost back to their 1993 levels.

The 2000 International Crime Victimization Survey, the last survey done, shows the violent-crime rate in England and Wales was twice the rate in the U.S. When the new survey for 2004 comes out, that gap will undoubtedly have widened even further as crimes reported to British police have since soared by 35%, while declining 6% in the U.S.

The high crime rates have so strained resources that 29% of the time in London it takes police longer than 12 minutes to arrive at the scene. No wonder police nearly always arrive on the crime scene after the crime has been committed.
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: KazKru December 16, 2012, 01:56:24 PM
Aurora Batman shooter & Connecticut school shooter father's both to tesify in Libor Bank scandal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUZMMQIqnI

Yes, all sorts of sites, chat boards, and videos, out there now suggesting this link between Lanza and Libor, but I've yet to see one substantiation, with even circumstantial evidence, that this is anything more than speculation and rumor.  I'm not suggesting that it won't lead there eventually, but as of now I'm not fully buying this link.

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: bento December 16, 2012, 02:04:38 PM
ok how about this contrived "facts"

On November 18, 2012, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence said "epidemic levels of gun violence (claim) over 30,000 lives annually." US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data document it.   (WTF?)

Every gun-related death leaves two others wounded. Every year, about 100,000 Americans are gun violence victims. Countless others are irreparably harmed. Nothing whatever is done to curb or prevent what's shocking and intolerable.

http://rense.com/general95/gun-violence.html

I am trying to find the source for these numbers because they seem outlandishly inflated.
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: bento December 16, 2012, 02:13:31 PM
ok this is what they used:

• Suicides: 102,002 between 2002 and 2007
• Homicides: 73,148 between 2002 and 2007
• Accidental: 4,185 between 2002 and 2007
• Legal shootings: 1,999 between 2002 and 2007
• Undetermined: 1,427 between 2002 and 2007

total:182,761 divided 5 years is 36,552 per year.

So if you just used the Homicides you get 14,629 per year. That is just counting total deaths not wounding and instances where the gun deterred violence.
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: Brocke December 16, 2012, 02:45:46 PM

Will banning guns stop the mass killing of children?

Lets use China as an example.

In China, civilians are not allowed to possess any firearms
In China, private possession of fully automatic weapons is prohibited
In China, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is prohibited
In China, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is permitted for hunting with permission only

Sixth School Killing in China in Under Two Months
Meat cleaver-wielding man kills nine, injures 11, in kindergarten classroom

By Gu Qing’er & Gu Xiaohua
Epoch Times Staff Created: May 12, 2010

A meat cleaver-wielding man broke into a kindergarten in China’s Shaanxi Province on May 12, killing nine and injuring 11 before returning home to commit suicide.

“The Kindergarten teacher and the teacher’s mother were killed," a villager, surnamed Wu, told The Epoch Times.

"Several small children were killed, and the murderer committed suicide. He just used a kitchen knife to kill people. Those who were injured are being treated in the hospital.”

more: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china-news/sixth-school-killing-in-china-in-under-two-months-35273.html




TIMELINE: China School Killings
March 2910 - May 2010

March 23: Zheng Minshen in Nanping City, Fujian Province, waited outside a school gate with a knife about 30 centimeters long, killing eight students and injuring five.

April 12: About 400 meters away from the Xizhen Elementary School of Hepu County, Guangxi Province, an eight-year-old student and an elderly woman were found dead, and another five were injured, including two students, a toddler, and a middle-aged couple.

April 28:  A man ran into an elementary school in Leizhou City of Guangdong Province with a knife and injured 18 students and a teacher. The resulting investigation showed that the 33-year-old suspect Chen Kangbing was a teacher at another public school in Leizhou City, on "sick leave" since February 2006.

April 29: Xu Yuyuan broke into a kindergarten affiliated with Taixing Township of Taizhou City, Jiangsu Province, stabbing and killing 32 people.

April 30: The 45-year-old Wang Yonglai of Shangzhuang Village of Weifang City, Shandong Province, forcibly entered Shanzhuang Elementary School on a motorcycle, carrying a hammer and gasoline. He wounded five preschoolers with the hammer and then killed himself via self-immolation using the gasoline.

May 12: A cleaver-wielding man broke into a kindergarten in China’s Shaanxi Province, killing nine and injuring 11 before returning home to commit suicide.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Please Wake Up! December 16, 2012, 03:20:23 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/12/sandy-hook-killer-mother-nancy-lanza-survivalist


"Nancy Lanza was a survivalist, who may have owned the weapon her son used to kill her as part of her stockpiling of supplies for the the economic collapse she thought the country was facing, according to a close family member".

Forgive the link to a nonsense gossip site but found it interesting and may be some insight in where the media spin may go with this story.

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: Blowback December 16, 2012, 04:33:27 PM
Sandy Hook Reference in latest Batman Movie  :o
http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_1.jpg

http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_2.jpg
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: starvosan December 16, 2012, 04:39:28 PM


Lanza had entered the school heavily armed. He had three guns -- two handguns and the Bushmaster .223-caliber assault rifle that he used to force his way in and kill most of his victims -- along with hundreds of bullets, at least 30 magazines per gun and extra ammunition, police said. Lanza ultimately used a handgun to kill himself, state police said, and the three guns, the rifle, a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm, were found by his body. A fourth gun, a shotgun, was found in Lanza's car outside the school, police said.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/coroner-adam-lanza-shot-mom-multiple-times-in-the-head-1.4339051

30 mags per gun?  So he was carrying 90 mags?  And now the long gun in the vehicle is a shotgun?  My head is starting to spin.....
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: EvadingGrid December 16, 2012, 04:42:20 PM

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/coroner-adam-lanza-shot-mom-multiple-times-in-the-head-1.4339051

30 mags per gun?  So he was carrying 90 mags?  And now the long gun in the vehicle is a shotgun?  My head is starting to spin.....

All sounds a touch Hollywood
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: trailhound December 16, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
Sandy Hook Reference in latest Batman Movie  :o
http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_1.jpg

http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_2.jpg

Sandy Hook clearest thing on the map there, creepy..
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: jofortruth December 16, 2012, 05:05:29 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/12/sandy-hook-killer-mother-nancy-lanza-survivalist


"Nancy Lanza was a survivalist, who may have owned the weapon her son used to kill her as part of her stockpiling of supplies for the the economic collapse she thought the country was facing, according to a close family member".


I heard a guy say this on ABC last night 11pm news! I believe he identified himself as someone with Intelligence? He said Nancy was a survivalist and worried about the economy! 

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 16, 2012, 05:07:31 PM
I heard a guy say this on ABC last night 11pm news! I believe he identified himself as someone with Intelligence? He said Nancy was a survivalist and worried about the economy! 

So now Preppers are evil potential terrorists ?  ::)
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: Libertarian Perspective December 16, 2012, 05:21:52 PM
They already have this angle and are already arresting preppers and confiscating their guns by declaring them mentally unstable.
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: jofortruth December 16, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
So now Preppers are evil potential terrorists ?  ::)


Yes! That was the inference in his statement! I just laughed at the idiot knowing this would be used at one point! These people are not professionals, they are tv propagandists! Wish I had gotten the guys name. Maybe someone can find the interview!  ::)


I know for a fact it was on ABC 11pm last night! I wrote that down when I heard it! I believe the guy was tall, but I had never seen him on tv before!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Tokiem December 16, 2012, 05:29:30 PM
Sandy Hook Reference in latest Batman Movie  :o
http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_1.jpg

http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_2.jpg

AND "Sandy Hook" is approximately where "Hurricane Sandy" came a shore in New York / New Jersey area.
http://www.nyharborparks.org/visit/saho.html (http://www.nyharborparks.org/visit/saho.html)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 16, 2012, 05:36:56 PM
Where is the Sandy Hook references in those images above? I'm confused ???
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 16, 2012, 05:37:30 PM
 I heard one reporter saying Lonza shot his way into the school, infering he made a manhole with his 223 and climbed through it, he added these attack rifles can do that.
 30 clips per gun, 3 guns=120 clips , 3# bags full mates. This whole deal was arranged. The average Joe will immediatly confrim the MSM, for Gods sake imagine anyone thinking an element within our Gov could do such a thing. They will not look kindly on  us (anyone who questions) the NRA or 2nd amendment.
             CONTROLL in the absolute.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 16, 2012, 05:37:41 PM
Yes! That was the inference in his statement! I just laughed at the idiot knowing this would be used at one point! These people are not professionals, they are tv propagandists! Wish I had gotten the guys name. Maybe someone can find the interview!  ::)


I know for a fact it was on ABC 11pm last night! I wrote that down when I heard it! I believe the guy was tall, but I had never seen him on tv before!

It may be in this ABC broadcast from 12-15-12 (If this is 11pm news):
http://abcnews.go.com/watch/world-news-with-david-muir/SH55228120/VD55258505/world-news-1215-connecticut-shooting-tragedy--remembering-the-victims
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 16, 2012, 05:41:26 PM
Where is the Sandy Hook references in those images above? I'm confused ???

look to the map on the left bottom
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: America2 December 16, 2012, 05:42:08 PM
look to the map on the left bottom

Oh OK, I see it. Thanks!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: InsideJob December 16, 2012, 05:42:34 PM
Sandy Hook Reference in latest Batman Movie  :o
http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_1.jpg

http://www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges/The_Dark_Knight_Rises___Sandy_Hook_2.jpg

That smells like a photoshop hoax
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 16, 2012, 06:22:09 PM
Can anyone point out roughly where in the movie this occurs?  I have the DVD and want to see if I can see it myself.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 16, 2012, 06:24:33 PM
I can't believe the amount of "solders" coming out and saying no civilian should own an assault weapon. They have too many rounds and will kill lots of people. Then again how do we know that these people are actual solders? You do not need to Id to register to comment on these sites. It would scare me more if the majority of the military wanted to disarm citizens, especially when they are being deployed in more domestic situations now.
They can easily be fake personas being run from Air Force Cyberspace Command, Air Force Research Laboratory, or any defense contractor, etc.

Air Force Seeks Fake Online Social Media Identities
http://www.informationweek.com/security/client/air-force-seeks-fake-online-social-media/229219056
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: decemberfellow December 16, 2012, 06:31:05 PM
That smells like a photoshop hoax


Its the only "city" wrote on the map that I can see using magnifying glass
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 16, 2012, 06:36:12 PM
Connecticut State Police say primary weapon used in Sandy Hook was an AR-15. Same weapon as Aurora theater and Clackamas mall.

thought the .223 was found in a vehicle?  WTF!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/us/lanza-used-a-popular-ar-15-style-rifle-in-newtown.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 16, 2012, 06:41:30 PM
BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL
http://consfearacynewz.weebly.com/forums.html#/20121216/breaking-news-ct-school-shooter-killer-link-t-2121160/
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: Blowback December 16, 2012, 06:41:55 PM
Can anyone point out roughly where in the movie this occurs?  I have the DVD and want to see if I can see it myself.

Here's the link to the GLP thread.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2083415/pg1
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 16, 2012, 07:07:49 PM
Connecticut State Police say primary weapon used in Sandy Hook was an AR-15. Same weapon as Aurora theater and Clackamas mall.

thought the .223 was found in a vehicle?  WTF!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/us/lanza-used-a-popular-ar-15-style-rifle-in-newtown.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Ya, same here, they have changed the story, its now a shotgun.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: bento December 16, 2012, 07:13:41 PM
I am still a little confused here please explain why the kid drove to the school after shooting his mom and brother at his home? Was he just really pissed at 4th graders? It dose not make sense what was the motive then?

Then he is supposed to have used a rifle that was in his freaking trunk? Was that just his spare? He fired 100 rounds and had how many magazines? How did he keep his pants up?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Libertarian Perspective December 16, 2012, 07:18:37 PM
Fully loaded magazines are heavy and if we are led to believe by the articles I have seen that he had more than 30 of those magazines he would have had them in a big bag that surely would have been noticed had he gone through the school entrance with them.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: decemberfellow December 16, 2012, 07:27:35 PM
BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL
http://consfearacynewz.weebly.com/forums.html#/20121216/breaking-news-ct-school-shooter-killer-link-t-2121160/

As was Aurora theatre guys father  both fathers
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 16, 2012, 07:39:05 PM
 The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’.
From Fabain4Liberty:
The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested. 
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.
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: trailhound December 16, 2012, 07:53:15 PM
Does this mean they are going after the first amendment as well as the second?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N4CT4boLPrU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N4CT4boLPrU)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: -Savage_Sigma- December 16, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’.
From Fabain4Liberty:
The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested. 
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.
Quoted for emphasis.  This will not be on the nightly news folks.
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: Effie Trinket December 16, 2012, 08:01:49 PM
^ Need vetted links that prove the above LIBOR info is 100% fact.
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: chris jones December 16, 2012, 08:35:58 PM
 The sacrifial lambs have served this purpose for the powers. What manner of sadistical physcho has inititated this abomination. 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 16, 2012, 08:44:53 PM
Social Media Comments during the shooting at Newtown: (Check these out. They also say initial reports said 2 shooters)
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/198243/how-news-about-the-newtown-school-shooting-has-spread/
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: IridiumKEPfactor December 16, 2012, 08:45:27 PM
Did paranoid, gun-crazed mother trigger son's school killing spree? Friends say she believed world was on edge of collapse
 Nancy Lanza portrayed as 'survivalist' who stockpiled food, water and guns
 She was shot four times in the head, possibly as she slept, by her son
 Collection of guns included handguns, assault rifle and two hunting rifles
 Son Adam was reclusive, spending most of his time in adjoining bedrooms
 Fiercely protective mother insisted he was never left on his own
 Fellow school pupils described him as very bright, a genius, but painfully shy
 Moved to Sandy Hook in around 1998 but Mrs Lanza and husband divorced



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249185/Connecticut-school-shooting-Did-paranoid-gun-crazed-mother-trigger-Adam-Lanzas-school-killing-spree-Friends-say-believed-world-edge-collapse.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249185/Connecticut-school-shooting-Did-paranoid-gun-crazed-mother-trigger-Adam-Lanzas-school-killing-spree-Friends-say-believed-world-edge-collapse.html)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 16, 2012, 08:52:05 PM
Did paranoid, gun-crazed mother trigger son's school killing spree? Friends say she believed world was on edge of collapse
 Nancy Lanza portrayed as 'survivalist' who stockpiled food, water and guns
 She was shot four times in the head, possibly as she slept, by her son
 Collection of guns included handguns, assault rifle and two hunting rifles
 Son Adam was reclusive, spending most of his time in adjoining bedrooms
 Fiercely protective mother insisted he was never left on his own
 Fellow school pupils described him as very bright, a genius, but painfully shy
 Moved to Sandy Hook in around 1998 but Mrs Lanza and husband divorced


Where have we heard this before? Oh yeah, one of those typical Hellywood, War on the Family movies! >:(
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 16, 2012, 08:54:18 PM
BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL
http://consfearacynewz.weebly.com/forums.html#/20121216/breaking-news-ct-school-shooter-killer-link-t-2121160/

This is Sorcha Faal Disinfo.  Sorcha's was up on the 25th, and i can't find anything from earlier.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Valerius December 16, 2012, 08:56:01 PM
Corporate media pulling out all the stops on this one.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 16, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
The Newtown Bee is a local newspaper that is a mile from the school.
http://newtownbee.com/

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 16, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
This is Sorcha Faal Disinfo.  Sorcha's was up on the 25th, and i can't find anything from earlier.


It's a Jack Blood rumor as I understand it.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 16, 2012, 09:23:29 PM
Does anyone have evidence as to the relative timeline between the medical examiner's determination that all wounds had been inflicted by means of rifle rounds and the state police determination that the rifle had been found inside the school, rather than inside the car?  Which announcement came first, and is there a link to that fact?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 16, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
have certain people with access to more computers and skills than I do doing some digging into this.
the LIBOR part
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 16, 2012, 09:38:50 PM
Morgan Freeman’s Newtown ‘Statement’ Almost Definitely A Hoax ???
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/440462/morgan-freemans-newtown-statement-almost-definitely-a-hoax/#yMZphTjUsT6bhSW8.99

The Morgan Freeman Newtown statement is, first and foremost, not traceable to any particular time, outlet or media source to whom the gravelly-voiced frequent narrator would have given the series of sanctimonious “thoughts” on the shooting. No interviewer claims credit for speaking to Morgan Freeman after the tragedy, and no single entry on the web for the lecture on the effects of media, publicity and journalism in general cites any reputable source in collecting the supposed remarks from the stately star.
 
But the missive penned almost definitely by someone other than Freeman who “borrowed” the actor’s voice to lend credibility to their own thoughts is striking a chord nonetheless — likely because it gives people not only a quick cause on which to blame the horrific events (that durn news industry!), but also a bit of assumed smugness in posting the comments back to friends on Facebook and Twitter after days of coverage.
 
The Morgan Freeman Connecticut shootings hoax begins:
 

“You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here’s why … It’s because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine?”
 
The purported Morgan Freeman statement continues:
 

“Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody … CNN’s article says that if the body count ‘holds up,’ this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another.”
 
Firstly, let’s pretend that CNN definitely used the term “holds up” in comparing the Newtown massacre to the Virginia Tech casualty toll. It’s not inherently morbid to examine a tragedy’s scope in relation to other tragedies and it doesn’t magically becoming “ranking” the two to compare the number of victims killed.
 
No one is saying one shooting is “worse than another,” but the sheer number of gun massacres in the US prompts many Americans to wonder about the relative impact. This is human nature, as old as the first printing presses, and not in and of itself exploitative.
 
Fake Morgan Freeman continues:
 

“Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I’ve seen yet. Because they don’t sell.”
 
Which is utterly, provably false and anyone who has wept and watched the coverage of the Newtown tragedy saw this first hand.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/440462/morgan-freemans-newtown-statement-almost-definitely-a-hoax/#yMZphTjUsT6bhSW8.99
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Monkeypox December 16, 2012, 09:43:31 PM
Anyone who knows anything about Morgan Freeman would know that his supposed statement was a hoax.

Don't believe everything you read on the intertubes.   :P
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 16, 2012, 09:57:27 PM
Does anyone have evidence as to the relative timeline between the medical examiner's determination that all wounds had been inflicted by means of rifle rounds and the state police determination that the rifle had been found inside the school, rather than inside the car?  Which announcement came first, and is there a link to that fact?

Medical examiner hit the airwaves with an initial report five of ten minutes before 01:48:01 PM yesterday.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.msg1390671#msg1390671 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.msg1390671#msg1390671)


Don't have a time sequence on the rifle's reported position change:

"Authorities reportedly recovered three guns—a Glock and SIG Sauer, both pistols, inside the school and a Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle in the shooter's car. [Update: On Saturday, officials including the state's chief medical examiner said that the rifle was the primary weapon used in the shooting.]" - motherjones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/what-happened-newtown-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 16, 2012, 10:03:58 PM
Does anyone have evidence as to the relative timeline between the medical examiner's determination that all wounds had been inflicted by means of rifle rounds and the state police determination that the rifle had been found inside the school, rather than inside the car?  Which announcement came first, and is there a link to that fact?

The two new pronouncements came almost simultaneously:

See Sasha's post on page 8 of this thread, dated Saturday:
"FOX:  correcting prior reports,... 3 guns found inside of the school...  Wayne Carver, corrinors report:  victims had from 3 to 11 gun shots wounds each...  most wounds caused with rifle "
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 16, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
Medical examiner hit the airwaves with an initial report five of ten minutes before 01:48:01 PM yesterday.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.msg1390671#msg1390671 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.msg1390671#msg1390671)


Don't have a time sequence on the rifle's reported position change:

"Authorities reportedly recovered three guns—a Glock and SIG Sauer, both pistols, inside the school and a Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle in the shooter's car. [Update: On Saturday, officials including the state's chief medical examiner said that the rifle was the primary weapon used in the shooting.]" - motherjones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/what-happened-newtown-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting)

Thanks!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 16, 2012, 10:06:19 PM
The two new pronouncements came almost simultaneously:

See Sasha's post on page 8 of this thread, dated Saturday:
"FOX:  correcting prior reports,... 3 guns found inside of the school...  Wayne Carver, corrinors report:  victims had from 3 to 11 gun shots wounds each...  most wounds caused with rifle "

Thanks!  I'm sure you can see where I'm gong with this.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 16, 2012, 10:08:49 PM
This is Sorcha Faal Disinfo.  Sorcha's was up on the 25th, and i can't find anything from earlier.

^ Yup, disinfo.  Pay attention to this shit folks.  Good way to lose credibility and for others that might use what is said here as a reference.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1600.htm  <---Disinfo
Colorado Massacre Linked To Historic Bank Fraud
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gui-VRT_YZo&  <--YT comment on this realization
"the James Holmes/ LIBOR story was disinfo that came from a Sorcha Faal article. Scorcha Faal is notorious disinfo. The Holmes/LIBOR tie was never verified. A lot of what you are saying is true, but I think this LIBOR tie-in is fake."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Monkeypox December 16, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
If your see "Sorcha Fail", you can pretty much assume it's disinformation.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 16, 2012, 11:33:29 PM
Am I the only one getting tired of seeing these clowns run around every mass shooting scene? (always after the suspect is already dead)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/906298/thumbs/o-ST-ROSE-LIMA-570.jpg?6)
caption:
Tons of officials swarm St. Rose of Lima Church in Newtown Sunday following an anonymous threat that prompted an evacuation in the middle of a Mass.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: lucy_st1 December 16, 2012, 11:57:45 PM
http://youtu.be/AZtT-lRNqP8

REFERENCE 6:00 minutes -- 'two shadows' and 'they' (shooters) are coming at me.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 17, 2012, 12:42:43 AM

Yet another gun?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/adam-lanza-newtown-gunman-rounds-of-ammuniiton_n_2313017.html?utm_hp_ref=crime&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D246540
The chief medical examiner has said the ammunition was a type designed to expend its energy in the victim's tissues and stay inside the body to inflict the maximum amount of damage.
--Also Sunday, a Connecticut official said the gunman's mother was found dead in her pajamas in bed, shot four times in the head with a .22-caliber rifle.

Where did Lanza get the special ammo?  Where did he get all those magazines?  Where did he get his ammo vest?

------------

Also this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248197/Adam-Lanza-How-honor-student-goth-killer-massacring-20-children-Sandy-Hook-Elementary.html
A parent told MailOnline Lanza battered on a closet where 15 children and their music teacher were locked inside shouting: 'Let me in! Let me in!'
The mother, in her 40s, who declined to give her name, praised the quick-thinking actions of Maryrose Kristopik: 'I want to thank my child's music teacher. She saved their lives.
'The shooter kept banging on the door screaming: "Let me in! Let me in!" but he didn't get in.

So why didn't he shoot right through the doors?



/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: BranstonPickle December 17, 2012, 12:52:42 AM
Can anyone point out roughly where in the movie this occurs?  I have the DVD and want to see if I can see it myself.

It's supposed to be at 1hr 58m.
http://illuminatiwatcher.com/?p=4878

Let us know what you find.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 17, 2012, 01:02:06 AM
Yet another gun?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/adam-lanza-newtown-gunman-rounds-of-ammuniiton_n_2313017.html?utm_hp_ref=crime&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D246540
The chief medical examiner has said the ammunition was a type designed to expend its energy in the victim's tissues and stay inside the body to inflict the maximum amount of damage.
--Also Sunday, a Connecticut official said the gunman's mother was found dead in her pajamas in bed, shot four times in the head with a .22-caliber rifle.

Where did Lanza get the special ammo?  Where did he get all those magazines?  Where did he get his ammo vest?




  Don't you think that this just a hollow point bullet?--can be bought about anywhere.

A hollow-point bullet is an expanding bullet that has a pit or hollowed out shape in its tip, often intended to cause the bullet to expand upon entering a target in order to decrease penetration and disrupt more tissue as it travels through the target. It is also used for controlled penetration, where over-penetration could cause collateral damage (such as on an aircraft).


                         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-point_bullet

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: InsideJob December 17, 2012, 01:26:30 AM
It's sounding less like a photoshop hoax. I have to watch this movie now:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/14ym7p/clip_from_the_dark_knight_rises_look_closely/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/14ym7p/clip_from_the_dark_knight_rises_look_closely/)

(http://i.imgur.com/YaPT2.jpg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 17, 2012, 01:36:11 AM
  So InsideJob, you thought it was a possible photoshop hoax at the top of this page and now you don't think it is.  What makes you think it isn't now?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: InsideJob December 17, 2012, 01:42:42 AM
 So InsideJob, you thought it was a possible photoshop hoax at the top of this page and now you don't think it is.  What makes you think it isn't now?

If you go to the forum I linked, people are independently verifying that it's in there. (I don't have a copy of TDKR).
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 17, 2012, 01:47:41 AM
If you go to the forum I linked, people are independently verifying that it's in there. (I don't have a copy of TDKR).

  Thanks.  People at GLP think it is a reasonable story.  Nearly 30 pages on the story there.

            http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2083415/pg1
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 17, 2012, 02:14:29 AM
Yet another gun?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/adam-lanza-newtown-gunman-rounds-of-ammuniiton_n_2313017.html?utm_hp_ref=crime&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D246540
The chief medical examiner has said the ammunition was a type designed to expend its energy in the victim's tissues and stay inside the body to inflict the maximum amount of damage.
--Also Sunday, a Connecticut official said the gunman's mother was found dead in her pajamas in bed, shot four times in the head with a .22-caliber rifle.

Where did Lanza get the special ammo?  Where did he get all those magazines?  Where did he get his ammo vest?

------------

Also this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248197/Adam-Lanza-How-honor-student-goth-killer-massacring-20-children-Sandy-Hook-Elementary.html
A parent told MailOnline Lanza battered on a closet where 15 children and their music teacher were locked inside shouting: 'Let me in! Let me in!'
The mother, in her 40s, who declined to give her name, praised the quick-thinking actions of Maryrose Kristopik: 'I want to thank my child's music teacher. She saved their lives.
'The shooter kept banging on the door screaming: "Let me in! Let me in!" but he didn't get in.

So why didn't he shoot right through the doors?



/

A 5.56mm NATO is, essentially, a .22 cal:

5.56mm/(25.4mm/in) = 0.219in.

Alternatively, the Bushmaster is described as .223cal, which would be 5.66mm, also a close match for a .22cal.

Yet further, he could have used a cheap weapon to which he had easy access to kill his mother for her better weapons.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LoreOnTerror December 17, 2012, 02:53:28 AM
I'm in the middle of re-watching the 12/12/12 concert and Sandy Hook was also mentioned in it.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 17, 2012, 03:03:48 AM
WHAT CONCERT?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LoreOnTerror December 17, 2012, 03:07:09 AM
WHAT CONCERT?

www.121212concert.org
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 17, 2012, 03:44:12 AM
I'm in the middle of re-watching the 12/12/12 concert and Sandy Hook was also mentioned in it.

  How could it be?  Sandy Hook happened on 12-14-2012.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LoreOnTerror December 17, 2012, 04:04:38 AM
  How could it be?  Sandy Hook happened on 12-14-2012.

Precisely why I mentioned it  ;D My girlfriend and i both looked at each other thinking did i just hear that? It's just before Kanye gets on stage
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 17, 2012, 05:52:36 AM
I'm in the middle of re-watching the 12/12/12 concert and Sandy Hook was also mentioned in it.

I searched the web and can't find a complete video of the concert other than clips and highlights.  Would you have a link to the complete concert?

Can you also elaborate on the reference to "Sandy Hook"?  Obviously the whole concert is ostensibly a Hurricane "Sandy" relief concert, so you're going to hear references to the name Sandy all throughout.  Was the name "Sandy Hook" referenced specifically?

Thanks for your response in advance.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 17, 2012, 06:58:51 AM
Yet, I cannot but agree that America's gun laws MUST be tightened.

As, according to the official story, the disturbed young man was, apparently, dissuaded from purchasing a firearm on his own behalf, by virtue of the lax gun laws then in force within the State of Connecticut.  Therefor, he was able to exploit a loophole in Connecticut's gun laws by simply killing his mother in order to gain access to her firearms.

In other words, had there been in effect within the State of Connecticut a law against hoplokleptic matricide, that being the offense defined by means of the following terms:

Any person who shall:

1. With intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the death of such person; and

(a) the person is his maternal ancestor however defined by other laws of this State; and

(b) the purpose of such intentional causation of death unto such maternal ancestor shall be the unlawful acquisition of any weapons lawfully possessed by said maternal ancestor

shall be guilty of the offense of hoplokleptic matricide.

the heinous act committed by the disturbed young man would actually have been ILLEGAL!!!!

***

You see, had the State of Connecticut such a law upon her books at the time the offense were committed, this whole thing would never have occurred, as the miscreant would have realized that he could not lawfully have acquired his firearms, and would, therefor, never have attempted his evil deed.

LET PRESIDENT OBAMA LEAD US FORWARD OUT OF THIS DARK CLOUD INTO THE SUNSHINE OF LEGISLATION WHICH, FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL, SHALL OUTLAW HOPLOKLEPTIC MATRICIDE!!!

Am I making sense or what???
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: stymo1 December 17, 2012, 09:47:49 AM
This is Sorcha Faal Disinfo.  Sorcha's was up on the 25th, and i can't find anything from earlier.

It's a Jack Blood rumor as I understand it.


^ Yup, disinfo.  Pay attention to this shit folks.  Good way to lose credibility and for others that might use what is said here as a reference.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1600.htm  <---Disinfo
Colorado Massacre Linked To Historic Bank Fraud
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gui-VRT_YZo&  <--YT comment on this realization
"the James Holmes/ LIBOR story was disinfo that came from a Sorcha Faal article. Scorcha Faal is notorious disinfo. The Holmes/LIBOR tie was never verified. A lot of what you are saying is true, but I think this LIBOR tie-in is fake."

This is a legit site. I have not seen any links directing me back to WDIM. If there is one, please post link.

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.  (http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza-obviously-not-well-182011729--abc-news-topstories.html)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 17, 2012, 10:25:33 AM
Second 'shooter' explanation:

from SheilaAliens, same poster as the YouTube clip of the police scanner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6C2YmOLWnM&list=UUh0RH6wJPKs2KDcTSJWWNGA&index=2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6C2YmOLWnM&list=UUh0RH6wJPKs2KDcTSJWWNGA&index=2)


Gunman kills 20 kids, 6 adults at Connecticut elementary school
A man shoots and kills 20 children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
December 14, 2012 - full article (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/14/nation/la-na-1215-newtown-school-shooting-20121215)
By Richard A. Serrano, Alana Semuels and Tina Susman, Los Angeles Times

NEWTOWN, Conn. — A gunman massacred 20 children and six adults at a suburban elementary school here Friday morning before killing himself in what appeared to be the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, authorities said.

Sources said Adam Lanza, 20, earlier killed his mother at home and then drove her Honda to Sandy Hook Elementary School equipped with firearms that were registered to one or both of his divorced parents.

Clad in military fatigues and carrying two semiautomatic pistols, he entered the school, argued with someone in the hallway and then opened fire on staff members and children around 9:30 a.m., a law enforcement source said. He focused his gunfire on two rooms. Children huddled in closets and corners as the carnage unfolded.

Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance said police searched "every nook and cranny" of the kindergarten-through-fourth-grade campus after receiving a 911 call. He said 18 children and seven adults were found dead at the school — including the shooter — and two other children died at the hospital. Victims' bodies remained inside the school into the evening as relatives were gathered at a nearby fire station.

Vance did not officially identify the shooter or any of the dead. He said another adult had been killed elsewhere in Newtown, but he did not say whether it was Lanza's mother. Police are questioning Lanza's 24-year-old brother, Ryan, of Hoboken, N.J., the Associated Press reported.

It was the deadliest school shooting since 32 were murdered in the 2007 Virginia Tech rampage.

"Evil visited this community today," Gov. Dannel P. Malloy said Friday evening. "It's too early to speak of recovery."

Chris Manfredonia, whose 6-year-old daughter attends the school, was heading there Friday morning to help make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard popping sounds and smelled sulfur.

He ran around the school trying to reach his daughter and was briefly handcuffed by police. He later found his child, who had been locked in a small room with a teacher.
[He was dressed in camoflagued pants and a dark shirt]

"The whole reason we moved here a year ago is because when you drive down the subdivision, it's a happy place," said his wife, Georgeann Manfredonia. "There's a ton of children here and the families are very kind and supportive."  [Her reference to the local area as her own area, might well mean that her family has a house right next to the school, and thus her husband who'd been handcuffed, responded before the police because of the family's proximity to the school.  After the teachers, he was the first responder.  Would have been better if anyone of them were armed.]

Geneva Cunningham, 9, a fourth-grader, said she was in the library when the shooting erupted and she heard "a lot of screaming and yelling."

She said the school loudspeaker came on, and through it came the sound of a scream and then "really deep breathing."

A teacher ordered her and other students into a closet. "They told us it was a drill and that it was for our own safety," she said. "When it was happening there was a lot of glass shattering." At first, she said, some students thought an animal was loose. She said she heard about seven muted gunshots.

A fourth-grade boy told CNN that he was in the gym when he heard pops and bangs.

"We thought it was the custodian knocking stuff down," the boy said. "We heard screaming ... and then the police came in and said, 'Is he in here?'"
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 17, 2012, 11:33:45 AM
2 Victims Survive Newtown Shooting (2 adults - I believe one was the VP):
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/partners/article/2-victims-survive-Newtown-shooting-4123574.php

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 17, 2012, 11:36:49 AM
How many people casually keep an American flag prominently displayed in their LIVING ROOM?

(http://www.septemberclues.info/images/FORUM/xmas_america.jpg)

Newtown Teacher Kept 1st Graders Calm During Massacre (ABC News)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtDS8vVQTus
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 17, 2012, 11:50:12 AM
The feds will not allow this State cop to reveal anything other than the SPIN. The statey is doing a fine job of blanketing anything about the crime scene details, Lanza's description of his suicide, his entrance to go so far as he shot a manhole in schools wall,, the garbled reports of the Bushmaster in the attackers car, exactly how he lugged around 90-120 rounds of ammo, the image that his mother was a preppy, why two attackers were reported by witnesses ( now explained as a father with camys and black shirt), in short they are putting together a story that will be palatable for the general population if they haven't already.  Gun rights are under attack, these poor innocents were sacrificial. The elites MSM will not let this go down the memory hole.  It would be easy to go along, to accept the authorities description and grieve for the innocents, to chock this up as a looney who stole guns and out of the blue decided to  kill children. I can't do that.  This is on a par with the movie theater slaughter.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Theo42 December 17, 2012, 12:25:31 PM
Second 'shooter' explanation:

from SheilaAliens, same poster as the YouTube clip of the police scanner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6C2YmOLWnM&list=UUh0RH6wJPKs2KDcTSJWWNGA&index=2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6C2YmOLWnM&list=UUh0RH6wJPKs2KDcTSJWWNGA&index=2)


Gunman kills 20 kids, 6 adults at Connecticut elementary school
Chris Manfredonia, whose 6-year-old daughter attends the school, was heading there Friday morning to help make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard popping sounds and smelled sulfur.

He ran around the school trying to reach his daughter and was briefly handcuffed by police. He later found his child, who had been locked in a small room with a teacher.
[He was dressed in camoflagued pants and a dark shirt]

"The whole reason we moved here a year ago is because when you drive down the subdivision, it's a happy place," said his wife, Georgeann Manfredonia. "There's a ton of children here and the families are very kind and supportive."  [Her reference to the local area as her own area, might well mean that her family has a house right next to the school, and thus her husband who'd been handcuffed, responded before the police because of the family's proximity to the school.  After the teachers, he was the first responder.  Would have been better if anyone of them were armed.]



I believe this guy Chris was at the school and was supposed to make gingerbread houses with the first graders.  I find it HIGHLY improbable that he was wearing battle fatigues to do so.  I did some research on him and he is the Athletic Director at the Newtown high school.  So he is a real person.  I believe the Camo blurb was put there to cover the 2nd shooter story.

If we are to believe this articles assertion, then this must be Chris getting chased and pinned down into the woods, no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFKDuit8_xU

Hard to believe that making gingerbread houses could lead to this....
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 17, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
Tweets from News12CT - Times different from official reports: (Do you see a problem with these times versus the other times reported?)
https://twitter.com/News12CT

14 Dec says: (click on EXPAND to see times)

7:19 AM State police say they are going to a report of a shooting at a school in Newtown

8:12 AM State police conference scheduled for 1 regarding shooting at Sandy Hook.

8:19 AM Three people take to hospital following shooting

8:27 AM State police say gunman is dead

11:17 AM Gunman identified as Ryan Lanza (an incorrect report, it was his brother Adam)



: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 17, 2012, 01:18:09 PM
Holy f*cking shit look at this bullsh*t.  This reminds me of an interview with some bitch back after the VT inside job shooting happened where she said the VT shooting "would finally give a boost to the mental health arena" and she was happy about it.  Can you see how this is going to be inextricably woven into the unconstitutional mandatory deathcare bill?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/16/Recently-Defeated-Connecticut-Mental-Health-Bill-May-Have-Stopped-Friday-s-Shooter
Recently Defeated Connecticut Mental Health Bill May Have Stopped Friday's Shooter

by AWR Hawkins 16 Dec 2012

A troubling revelation has broken regarding a mental health bill recently defeated in Connecticut during this calendar year. Had it passed, that bill could have possibly taken Adam Lanza off the streets so he would not have been free to commit his heinous act on December 14.

In February 2012, Connecticut Senate Bill 452 (SB452) was put forward to remedy the fact that Connecticut was one of less than ten states in the U.S. to lack an "assisted outpatient treatment" (AOT) law.

But the bill was passed to Connecticut's Joint Committee on Judiciary in March, where it quietly faded away because of opposition by those who viewed it as "egregious" and "outrageously discriminatory."

Had this law passed, it may have forced Adam Lanza to be treated for his alleged mental illness instead of allowing him to roam free, and ultimately to kill 26 persons and himself in a vindictive rage on Friday.

Although there is some variation, the way these laws work in other states is simple: AOT laws preempt older statutes that only allow the mentally ill to be forcibly institutionalized for treatment if they've done harm to themselves or others.  This is possible because AOT laws allow a state to institutionalize a mentally ill person for treatment if the state has reason to suspect such institutionalization will prevent the individual from doing harm to self or others.

Why didn't the legislation pass? Because the ACLU and other "civil liberties" groups and individuals cried foul. The ACLU in particular said 452 would "infringe on patients' privacy rights by expanding [the circle of] who can medicate individuals without their consent." They also said it infringed on patient rights by reducing the number of doctors' opinions necessary to commit someone to institutionalization.

To be clear, no one can know that the passage of SB452 would have stopped Lanza for sure, as there's no guarantee a doctor or mental specialist would have seen the warning signs in time to institutionalize him for treatment.

However, it is worth noting that proponents of SB452 had the prevention of situations like Friday's shooting in mind when they tried to provide Connecticut residents with another layer of protection from the mentally ill (and criminal). 

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jerryweaver December 17, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
These shootings almost never happen at Gun Clubs and Shooting ranges. Dick Cheney is not normal. What is up with that? guns being such a bad problem and all.

(http://scoplaw.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/bring_it_on.jpg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 17, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
These shooting almost never happen at Gun Clubs and Shooting ranges. Dick Cheney is not normal. What is up with that? guns being such a bad problem and all.

Yeah, Cheney shot his own friend. What happened to him over that? NOTHING!

So the guy was incompetent with a gun and shot someone. So why is he allowed to own one? Because the Establishment has no rules, they just make them for the people!

 ::)

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-02-12/politics/cheney_1_katharine-armstrong-birdshot-saturday-afternoon-armstrong-ranch?_s=PM:POLITICS

Cheney accidentally shoots fellow hunter
ACCIDENT
 
February 13, 2006|From Dana Bash CNN

Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and wounded a campaign contributor during a weekend quail hunt on a friend's South Texas ranch, local authorities and the vice president's office said Sunday.

The wounded man, 78-year-old Harry Whittington, was in intensive care at a Corpus Christi hospital after being hit by several pellets of birdshot Saturday afternoon, hospital spokesman Peter Banko told CNN.

"He's doing well and in stable condition today," Banko said.

Whittington, an Austin attorney who gave $1,000 to President Bush's 2000 campaign and $2,000 to his 2004 re-election bid, was among a handful of people accompanying the vice president when the accident occurred Saturday afternoon.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 17, 2012, 01:38:37 PM
Principal Tried to Takedown Shooter:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/principal-dawn-hochsprung-a-5-foot-2-inch-raging-bull-lifesaver/


So, if this is the case, how did she have time to contact The Newtown Bee (see article posted earlier). Sounds like she would have been very busy!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 17, 2012, 01:49:53 PM
Some quotes I pulled from a gun enthusiast site.  Btw--I recommend that everyone check gun forums and start sifting through threads on them for info that you might not find anywhere else.  Because people with decades of experience with many different weapons are going to be able to recognize a lot more media lies regarding ammo, ballistics, and firearms than your average person, plus they will think of aspects of it that you would never think of based on that experience.  


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1402038_School_shooting_in_CT___many_children_and_adults_reported_dead.html&page=63

"I smell bullshit, on many levels"

"Where is the brass? The expended shells tell no lies. That way were can put which gun or guns to rest."

"Did the Chief just say we can't cuss, discuss, nor speculate on this without committing crimes ourselves?"

"Yes he did. It OK for the media however.. Just after replaying the Lt's comments the talking head on fox went to a story about a vigil last night for one of the teachers. Evidently she "hid the children in closets and then sheltered them with her body". Now, I'm not going to say there weren't heroics going on but where did this info come from? The Ct Lt just said he was the only person to release official info and I certainly haven't heard ANYTHING that detailed come from him."

"Very clear audio of P.D Stating shooter down with a rifle and SHOTGUN. Didn't someone say the Saiga was in the car on video?"

"State Trooper Chief: AR was primary and a shotgun was retrieved from a vehicle afterwards."

"Fox has the ex-Gov. of PA on - suggesting snitching on your people is something we might oughta come to grips with.  I'd rather take my chances with stray bullets. "

"Just saw on halftime of the Pitt/Dallas game, a pic of Ms. Lanza, pretty lady.....

They also reported they found her body on a bed she shared with her son.........

What The Frick?"

"Isn't it funny how CT has some of the TOUGHEST gun laws in the nation. That they have a permanent AWB and long waiting periods for guns. And here you have the dumbshit Governor of the State that this tragedy happened in, despite these tough gun laws saying how the nation needs an AWB. But none of those gun laws f**king stopped this from happening?"

"that bushmaster is ban compliant with a 10 round mag
bet the media doesn't know that"


"Nor do they care ..."

"His illogical reasoning is that even though CT has an assault weapon ban we need a Federal one to stop the assault weapons coming into CT from elsewhere."

"Uh, your existing AWB makes possession of those weapons illegal in CT, dumbass!"
______________
One comment I'll add.  It looks like this is what they resorted to since Fast & Furious failed for them because it was exposed isn't it?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jerryweaver December 17, 2012, 01:52:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w9Jjn2Cr-Do

copycat shooting in texas?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 17, 2012, 03:15:12 PM

NATO architected simultaneous false flags in Oslo, Norway which killed 60+

interesting series:

Programmed To Kill/Satanic Cover-Up Part 25 (Anders Behring Breivik - Norway Shooting 2011)  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3fXmxzWdc)

Programmed To Kill/Satanic Cover-Up Part 42 (Anders Behring Breivik - Norway Shooting 2011)  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8BUhecOUzw)

SEE: Dave McGowan - Programmed to Kill (http://www.scribd.com/doc/36363051/Dave-McGowan-Programmed-to-Kill)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 17, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
A Timeline of these Mass Shootings:
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/newtown-sandy-hook-school-shooting/hc-timeline-mass-killings-20121214,0,6880152.story

Someone should be creating a comparison (aka commonalities and the after effects)! This is an agenda playing out worldwide! This is no coincidence!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 17, 2012, 03:52:12 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/28/microstamping-legislation-may-lead-remington-colt-to-relocate/
Gun ID legislation may trigger exodus of gunmakers Remington, Colt
August 28, 2012

Two venerable American gun manufacturers — Remington and Colt — could head for the West their weapons helped win if New York and Connecticut force them to implement microstamping technology.
 
Microstamping, or ballistic imprinting, is a patented process that uses laser technology to engrave a tiny marking of the make, model and serial number on the tip of a gun’s firing pin to allow an imprint of that information on spent cartridge cases. Supporters of the technology say it will be a “game changer,” allowing authorities to quickly identify the registered guns used in crimes. Opponents claim the process is costly, unreliable and may ultimately impact the local economies that heavily depend on

the gun industry, including Ilion, N.Y., where Remington Arms maintains a factory, and Hartford, Conn., where Colt's manufacturing is headquartered.
 
“Mandatory microstamping would have an immediate impact of a loss of 50 jobs,” New York State Sen. James Seward, a Republican whose district includes Ilion, said, adding that Remington employs 1,100 workers in the town. “You’re talking about a company that has options in other states. Why should they be in a state that’s hostile to legal gun manufacturing? There could be serious negative economic impact with the passage of microstamping and other gun-control laws.”

http://www.westernmassedc.com/boston_area_industrial_clusters/manufacturing/firearms/

The economy of Western Massachusetts and the entire Knowledge Corridor Region has been steeped in the production of firearms since 1777, when George Washington selected Springfield as the site of the nation's first arsenal. Since that time, the area has spawned a number of arms manufacturers, accessory manufacturers and job shops to support the industry. These major players within the world of firearms production, Smith & Wesson, Savage Arms, Ruger, Colt, Marlin &  Mossberg, were not only an epicenter for innovation during the industrial revolution, but are still developing advanced manufacturing techniques today.  

The region's firearms industry has evolved from supplying the U.S. military, to becoming the primary supplier of arms to thousands of law enforcement agencies and commercial dealers worldwide.


In 2005 alone, local arms producers manufactured 1.8 million firearms. Powering this industry is a highly skilled workforce, steeped in not only the region's tradition as a manufacturing hub, but also the hunting and shooting sports industries.

Firearms Manufacturers of Western Massachusetts*
 
Smith & Wesson is the largest manufacturer of handguns in the United States. Founded in 1840, this manufacturer of firearms and ammunition maintains its world headquarters in Springfield, from which they continue to manufacture the weapons of choice for the nation's police departments, a tradition since the late 1800's.

The Savage Arms Company is a Westfield firearms manufacturing company founded in 1894. ...

Colt Manufacturing is Hartford firearms manufacturer founded in 1847. Among the most famous products from Colt are the Walker Colt ,"Colt .45" revolver and M16 production. In 2002, Colt Defense was founded as the company's division of manufacturing solely for the law enforcement, military, and private security markets worldwide.
 
The Marlin Firearms Company of North Haven, Connecticut has manufactured Marlin high power, center fire, lever action, and .22 caliber rim fire rifles, as well as shotguns, derringers and revolvers for more than 130 years. This Remington Arms Company is the owner of H & R Firearms.
 
H & R 1871 LLC is a subsidiary of Marlin Firearms and the largest manufacturer of single shot shotguns and rifles in the world.
 
O.F. Mossberg & Sons Inc., a North Haven, CT company, has been a leader in firearm design breakthroughs since 1919. Mossberg® was the first long-gun manufacturer in the U.S. to achieve ISO 9001 certification and pride's itself on adhering to strict world-class levels of manufacturing standards.
...
Lanber USA is the U.S. headquarters for this Spanish manufacturer of quality shotguns for hunting and competition. From their local operation, housed within the Camfour Inc. headquarters of Westfield MA, Lanber distributes and sells their more than 20 models of semi-auto and over/under shotguns in all standard gauges, including upland, hunting, and competition.
 
U.S. Firearms Manufacturing (U.S.F.A.) is the only gun company still manufacturing in Hartford, CT, and is the newest company of its kind in the modern CNC machine world of gun makers. This company holds a historic licensing agreement with Remington Arms Company, America's oldest gun maker, to manufacture historically accurate and 100% American made guns, under the E. Remington & Sons brand. Maxim Silent Firearms Company is a subsidiary of U.S.F.A.  
 
...

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 17, 2012, 04:01:22 PM
Sandy Drills?


UConn police drill to focus on shooting incident
July 30, 2012 - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2012/07/30/uconn_police_drill_to_focus_on_shooting_incident/)

STORRS, Conn.—University of Connecticut police and other law enforcement agencies will practice responding to a simulated "active shooter" incident during a training exercise on the Storrs campus next week.

Officials say they've been planning the exercise for months and it's not in response to the movie theater shooting in Colorado where 12 people were killed and dozens wounded July 20. They say it's part of ongoing public safety training for UConn police.

...it goes on..



Connecticut FEMA Drill for Cat 3 Hurricane
August 2012 14:10 Written by Kerry Anne Ducey
Full Article (http://www.hamlethub.com/ridgefield-life/cat/health/16916-simulating-a-category-3-hurricane-is-ridgefield-prepared)

The last Category 3 hurricane that impacted the state of Connecticut took place in 1938. According NBC CT meteorologist Ryan Hanrahan, one out of 10 hurricanes that hit Connecticut is a Category 3 storm and the average return time for a hurricane 16 years.
 
“We’re due. Weather patterns are ripe for a hurricane,” said First Selectman, Rudy Marconi.

...it goes on...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: RabidSheep December 17, 2012, 04:40:42 PM
HLN news channel is about to "reveal"  how Lanza obtained the guns from his mother
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 17, 2012, 04:47:54 PM
A Timeline of these Mass Shootings:
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/newtown-sandy-hook-school-shooting/hc-timeline-mass-killings-20121214,0,6880152.story

Someone should be creating a comparison (aka commonalities and the after effects)! This is an agenda playing out worldwide! This is no coincidence!
A few of us noted the similarities and laid it all out:
http://signofthetimes.yuku.com/topic/1355/Manipulated-Shootings-The-Profile

Once you see the commonalities it's not too hard to spot 'em.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 17, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
Can anyone find Nancy Lanza links to the CIA or DARPA that doesn't track back to Sorcha Faal?

 
Connecticut Massacre Blamed On Son Of Top CIA Analyst
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
December 15, 2012  - Scorcha Faals' article (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1638.htm)

A grim Federal Security Services (FSB) security memorandum circulating in the Kremlin today is reporting that the man, Adam Lanza [photo 2nd left], believed responsible for the horrific massacre of 20 children and 6 adults yesterday was the son of one of the Central Intelligence Agencies (CIA) top psychological analysts who was assigned to a Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project which developed the sub-hunting simulator video game Dangerous Waters.

According to FSB analysts in this memorandum, Adam Lanza attacked the Sandy Hook primary education school in the Connecticut County of Fairfield, known as the “hedge fund ghetto” due to its being one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, where he killed school officials and an entire class of children Russian intelligence experts believe were a part of a DARPA “experiment” being oversaw by his mother Nancy Champion Lanza.

...article continues...



Hunger Games "Experiment" Said Behind Connecticut Massacre (CIA, DARPA)
lunes, 17 de diciembre de 2012 - Scorcha Faal sourced article (http://pateras-reales.blogspot.com/2012/12/hunger-games-experiment-said-behind_17.html)
 
An new report prepared by the Federal Security Services (FSB) circulating in the Kremlin today on the horrific Connecticut Massacre is suggesting that these deaths may have been associated with the production of a video game based on the popular book Hunger Games which is about a post-apocalyptic United States where the killing of children is glorified as entertainment for the privileged elite classes.

According to this report, and as we had previously reported on in our report Connecticut Massacre Blamed On Son Of Top CIA Analyst, Nancy Champion Lanza[photo 2nd left], believed to be one of the Central Intelligence Agencies (CIA) top psychological analysts working on Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) video game production, is said by Russian intelligence analysts to have been a “close working partner” with Hunger Games author Suzanne Collins who washer neighbor in the affluent Connecticut village of Newton where they both resided.

...article continues...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 17, 2012, 05:30:59 PM
Can't source links for this, but info matches prior Sorcha Faal info: could be a derviative; could be independantly sourced.


Tom Heneghan: It Can Now Be Reported That The Mother of The Alleged Shooter Was CIA P2 Analyist Working For DARPA
Posted By: Jordon [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 16-Dec-2012 22:09:09
 
Psyops, Black Ops and Rip Offs

UNITED States of America - It can now be reported that Nancy Champion Lanza, the mother of the alleged Connecticut shooter, Adam Lanza, was a CIA P2 analyist working for the Defense Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and also for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

DARPA specializes in the use of simulated video internet games for the purpose of mind control and staging psyops.

...continues...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 17, 2012, 05:55:10 PM
The Newtown Bee Prints a Retraction And Apology
http://newtownbee.com/default.aspx

An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted.

We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Brocke December 17, 2012, 06:03:47 PM
Columbine School Shootings Darrell Scott
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtXdrJkwCsY

   Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
    Your words are empty air.
    You've stripped away our heritage,
    You've outlawed simple prayer.

    Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
    And precious children die.
    You seek for answers everywhere,
    And ask the question "Why?"

    You regulate restrictive laws,
    Through legislative creed.
    And yet you fail to understand,
    That God is what we need



Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's sub-committee.

What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.

They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert!

These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:

"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers." "The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field.

The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart. "In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA.

I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent."

"I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room.

Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:"


    Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
    Your words are empty air.
    You've stripped away our heritage,
    You've outlawed simple prayer.

    Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
    And precious children die.
    You seek for answers everywhere,
    And ask the question "Why?"

    You regulate restrictive laws,
    Through legislative creed.
    And yet you fail to understand,
    That God is what we need!


"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual influences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact.

What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties.

We do not need more restrictive laws." Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.

Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored.

We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!" "As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right!

I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA- I give to you a sincere challenge.

Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 17, 2012, 06:13:32 PM
Precisely why I mentioned it  ;D My girlfriend and i both looked at each other thinking did i just hear that? It's just before Kanye gets on stage

Just so you know I have family who live in Sandy Hook, NJ.  They were hit pretty damn hard by Hurricane Sandy, so maybe that is what the references to Sandy Hook was about.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 17, 2012, 06:17:29 PM

This is a legit site. I have not seen any links directing me back to WDIM. If there is one, please post link.

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.  (http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza-obviously-not-well-182011729--abc-news-topstories.html)

I read this too.  I had no doubt he was employed by Ernest Young.  But making the connection that Peter was going to testify in the LIBOR case is definitely not been made public anywhere, to my knowledge.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 17, 2012, 07:21:07 PM
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12...icut-children/

by Kevin Barrett



When something unbelievably evil happens in one of our schools, like the recent murder of 27 children and teachers at the Newtown School in Connecticut, the media always tells us the same thing: blame the lone nut(s).

But history suggests that many if not most schoolyard massacres, like other large-scale acts of domestic terrorism, have a much more sinister agenda.

Sheriff Pat Sullivan, who ran the Columbine investigation, was arrested last year and convicted of coercing sexual favors from a child in exchange for methamphetamine. His ridiculously short sentence, served in the jail that bears his name, amounted to a slap on the wrist. Rumor has it that Sullivan is part of a pedophile network along the lines of the Finders of Lost Children and the perpetrators of the Franklin Scandal child sex ring.

Some Columbine victims’ family members suspect that Sheriff Sullivan was involved in a “butt rape” incident involving the alleged Columbine shooters. Were those shooters mind-controlled sex-abuse victims?

Rogue intelligence agents and their psychiatrist colleagues have been brainwashing “lone nuts” to commit murder at least since the CIA’s MK-Ultra program achieved its objectives circa 1960.

Why would such “rogue networks” want to send brainwashed Manchurian Candidates into schools to massacre children?

Let’s allow one of the terrorists themselves to answer that question.

Remember Operation Gladio? The Pentagon, through NATO, organized bombings and shootings in the streets of Europe. When one of the terrorists got caught, he explained at his trial: “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public to turn to the State to ask for greater security.” He later explained the “strategy of tension” to the BBC: “To create tension within the country to promote conservative, reactionary social and political tendencies.”

Google “Brabant massacre” for more gory details.

So the answer to the question, WHY? is really very simple: When you terrorize the population, you open the door for fascist, authoritarian politicians.

Operation Gladio never ended. It’s still happening, right here in America.

Wade Michael Page, the “man with a 9/11 tattoo” blamed for the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting, turned out to be a US Army psy-ops specialist.

The “DC Sniper” – the US Army Special Forces whiz who changed his name to “Muhammad” just in time to go on a shooting spree – was another government-sponsored false-flag operation.

So whenever an event like today’s Connecticut massacre screams out at you from your screen: BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID, you should tell the mainstream media brainwashers to go to hell, then join those of us who are exposing the false flag terrorists and setting the stage for a world in which they will no longer ply their bloody trade.
Connecticut Massacre Blamed On Son Of Top CIA Analyst
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A grim Federal Security Services (FSB) security memorandum circulating in the Kremlin today is reporting that the man, Adam Lanza [photo 2nd left], believed responsible for the horrific massacre of 20 children and 6 adults yesterday was the son of one of the Central Intelligence Agencies (CIA) top psychological analysts who was assigned to a Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project which developed the sub-hunting simulator video game Dangerous Waters.
According to FSB analysts in this memorandum, Adam Lanza attacked the Sandy Hook primary education school in the Connecticut County of Fairfield, known as the “hedge fund ghetto” due to its being one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, where he killed school officials and an entire class of children Russian intelligence experts believe were a part of a DARPA “experiment” being oversaw by his mother Nancy Champion Lanza.
The total death count from this massacre is 28 as it, also, includes both Adam Lanza and his mother.
Though initial US news reports claimed Nancy Champion Lanza was a teacher at the Sandy Hook school, this report states this information is not true, and which has been confirmed by local school authorities, including Lillian Bittman, who served on the local school board until 2011, who stated, “No one has heard of her, teachers don’t know her.”
Russian intelligence files on Nancy Champion Lanza, however, say she lived the majority of her life in and around what is known as the Merrimack Valley Region of Massachusetts and New Hampshire and that the weapons used in this massacre, said to be owned by her, are standard CIA issue. US news reports are further stating that her brother, James Champion, a retired Kingston , New Hampshire police officer, is currently being questioned by the FBI.
In early 2009, this report continues, Nancy Champion Lanza relocated to Connecticut as the DARPA projects she was assigned to have their headquarters at the US Naval Submarine Base New London in Groton .
Important to note is that the FSB received an extensive file on CIA and DARPA video game projects from Iranian intelligence officials after the August, 2011 arrest of CIA agent Amir Mirza Hekmati.
In a video confession to Iranian intelligence officials, Amir Mirzaei Hekmati, a former US Marine of Iranian descent, confessed to a career in American intelligence that included a stint at a video game company in New York that he said was “a cover for the CIA.”
According to an English translation of the report published by The Tehran Times, an Iranian state-run newspaper, about one-third of the way through the report, Hekmati said he had worked for DARPA, after he left the Marine Corps in 2005.
Then, Hekmati said in Persian: “After DARPA I was recruited by Kuma Games Company, a computer games company which received money from CIA to design and make special films and computer games to change the public opinion’s mindset in the Middle East and distribute them among Middle East residents free of charge. The goal of Kuma Games was to convince the people of the world and Iraq that what the U.S. does in Iraq and other countries is good and acceptable.”
Hekmati further added: “The head of Kuma called me and said, ‘I have received your resume from DARPA, and we have a program in which you can help us.’ ” Kuma, Hekmati explained, “was also a cover for the CIA. and only the chief of company knows that you’re working with the agency.”
The FSB notes in this report that Russia, too, has experienced the grim aftereffects of violent Western video games naming the November 2012 workplace rampage that left 6 dead in Moscow and prompted authorities to begin the process of outright banning them in the Motherland as numerous research studies have linked them to violence and mass killings.
Perhaps most shocking in this report are FSB analysts stating that this latest massacre “could very well have been” a “retaliation” after the failed mass shooting in Portland, Oregon earlier in the week, and as we reported on in our report titled “US Military Sniper Stops Portland Mall Massacre”.
As we have detailed in many previous reports, the ongoing war between those factions loyal to President Obama, opposed to those aligned with the US Military and intelligence agencies, is taking an ever growing toll upon the American public and with this latest massacre shows no signs of abating.
Sadly, but always the case, the American people will be the last to know the truth of these matters as the popular US dissident website Infowars.com is already reporting that the news of this latest massacre is already being “changed and censored” to protect those who are really to blame.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 17, 2012, 07:25:14 PM
STAY TUNED I AM DIGGING!
http://consfearacynewz.weebly.com/forums.html#/20121218/shooters-mother-possibly-linked-to-darpa-2129988/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 17, 2012, 07:38:25 PM
Anyone who knows Russian needs to start here.
http://www.fsb.ru/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 17, 2012, 07:41:57 PM
Picture of a Drill at Sandy Hook days before shooting:
http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/sandy_hook_evacuation_drill.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248426/Connecticut-massacre-Heart-breaking-pictures-Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-just-days-shooting.html

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 17, 2012, 08:14:00 PM
The statements made by the school nurse is another example of the strange way the story has evolved:

Was:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9746267/Connecticut-school-shooting-live.html
15.00 (10.00) USA Today said they had interviewed a very traumatized school nurse from Sandy Hook, who described how the gunman walked into her office and looked her straight in the eye. She then was said to have ducked under the desk before he then inexplicably turned around and walked out.
She also said she knew the suspect's mother, Nancy, describing her as an "absolutely loving, caring kindergarten teacher."

see video
http://www.wkyc.com/video/2036581671001/1/Shooter-allegedly-spared-school-nurse

Now:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/could_see_his_feet_was_frozen_in_ygbEGJD62sWTIMQlZ9CUFP
(School nurse Sarah)Cox held her breath when she heard someone open her office door.  Through the openings of the desk, she saw a pair of legs from the knees down wearing dark clothing and boots.  “I could see by the position of the feet that they were facing my desk,” Cox said, describing her brush with Lanza...  Cox said he was no more than 20 feet away from her.   “The person was there just a few seconds,” Cox said. ... “He turned around and walked out....”
When she learned Lanza’s identity, she could not recall him being a student at the school.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 17, 2012, 08:40:22 PM
Picture of a Drill at Sandy Hook days before shooting:
http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/sandy_hook_evacuation_drill.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248426/Connecticut-massacre-Heart-breaking-pictures-Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-just-days-shooting.html



  Great find.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 17, 2012, 08:44:03 PM
The statements made by the school nurse is another example of the strange way the story has evolved:

Was:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9746267/Connecticut-school-shooting-live.html
15.00 (10.00) USA Today said they had interviewed a very traumatized school nurse from Sandy Hook, who described how the gunman walked into her office and looked her straight in the eye. She then was said to have ducked under the desk before he then inexplicably turned around and walked out.
She also said she knew the suspect's mother, Nancy, describing her as an "absolutely loving, caring kindergarten teacher."

see video
http://www.wkyc.com/video/2036581671001/1/Shooter-allegedly-spared-school-nurse

Now:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/could_see_his_feet_was_frozen_in_ygbEGJD62sWTIMQlZ9CUFP
(School nurse Sarah)Cox held her breath when she heard someone open her office door.  Through the openings of the desk, she saw a pair of legs from the knees down wearing dark clothing and boots.  “I could see by the position of the feet that they were facing my desk,” Cox said, describing her brush with Lanza...  Cox said he was no more than 20 feet away from her.   “The person was there just a few seconds,” Cox said. ... “He turned around and walked out....”
When she learned Lanza’s identity, she could not recall him being a student at the school.



  Very strange.  Stories are not suppose to evolve change.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 17, 2012, 08:44:30 PM
 Our leaders and elites have taken this nation down a dark road, invading ,genocide & torture, the resistance to this abomination is minimal at best , it has been condoned by the Politicians and the confirmed by the United Nations, our majority of citizens wiggle the flag..
 This demented tragedy( elementry school) among others has gained worldwide attention and domestic sentiments. What folks in general fail to recognize is this abomination in comparison to what has been committed under presidential orders is minuscule, I'm not being cold just honest.
 The manipulation is evident, our Gov can grid bomb innocents yet (supposedly one lone) dupe commits an act of insanity the citizens, the govs MSM ( elite cheerleaders) and our elected wonders scream bloody murder. WHY, gun control. Our Justice department can ship arms to drug cartells and feed us fairy tales, they can tell the nation Iraq had WMD's and invade, though was a blatant lie.
 This murdering of these children was heartbreaking as to was the fact our nation grid bombed under orders. I have watched them bomb an area I had been through, it was at night, the earth trembled and spark of the hit would flash a brilliant white repeatedly. I have never stopped seeing the faces of the children I had seen in that area, playing and laughing, their mothers watching and holding their infants.
 Innocents, they too were not our enemy but fodder for the machine. Until the wars are faced up to by the people of this nation the fiscal cliff is inevitable, the war on gun controll will rage, more FF's will be on the table, our constitution our very lifeline to any hint of equality will be eliminated.
 End rant, innocent blood has been shed for decades if Americans can't get a grip on the truth it is over.
I pray daily that the sadistic acts performed by the power are exposed, and America finds the courage to corner the rats in high places, perhaps then we can seek redemption ,find honor and a return to sanity..  
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 17, 2012, 09:05:16 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify?cid=rss

In the wake of the mass murders that took place in Newtown, Connecticut on Dec. 14, information on the shooter, and his family, is slowly being discovered by law enforcement other sources. One interesting connection to the tragedy that took place at the Sandy Hook school is that the father of Adam Lanza has a connection to the theater shootings that took place in Aurora earlier this year by James Holmes.

Both fathers of the shooters were allegedly expected to testify in the Libor scandal that rocked the banking world in June.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 17, 2012, 09:09:01 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify?cid=rss

In the wake of the mass murders that took place in Newtown, Connecticut on Dec. 14, information on the shooter, and his family, is slowly being discovered by law enforcement other sources. One interesting connection to the tragedy that took place at the Sandy Hook school is that the father of Adam Lanza has a connection to the theater shootings that took place in Aurora earlier this year by James Holmes.

Both fathers of the shooters were allegedly expected to testify in the Libor scandal that rocked the banking world in June.

Didn't the original Libor connection info with Aurora shooter also come from Scorcha Faal?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 17, 2012, 09:32:46 PM
 

MUST SEE: Trailer for movie: SANDY ~ Rise of the Guardians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-HbeW18oRDw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-HbeW18oRDw)


Zen Gardner .....

Operation Sandy – Mass Trauma-Based Mind Manipulation

http://www.zengardner.com/operation-sandy-mass-trauma-based-mind-manipulation/ (http://www.zengardner.com/operation-sandy-mass-trauma-based-mind-manipulation/)


~~~~~ ALSO~> Remember the chopper footage with the cops chasing
a suspect behind the school?

Wellll .... there was a second guy back there! WATCH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An1yHCzdNhQ&feature=em-video_response_received (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An1yHCzdNhQ&feature=em-video_response_received)

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 17, 2012, 09:36:32 PM
Didn't the original Libor connection info with Aurora shooter also come from Scorcha Faal?

  YES, IT'S ALL BS.  Who would believe such a story that these 2 killers were linked by their dads and the Libor scandal?  When I first saw the story about the 2 dads I thought it had to be BS.

                                http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1600.htm


July 25, 2012

Colorado Massacre Linked To Historic Bank Fraud

By: Sorcha Faal,
and as reported to her Western Subscribers









 

A highly disturbing Ministry of Finance report on the largest bank fraud in history that is circulating in the Kremlin today warns that it is “within the realm of possibility” that the shocking movie massacre in Colorado this past week is but another “integral part” in the deliberate plan put in place by Western banking elites and their allies to collapse the global economy.

The massacre cited in this report is being referred to as the “2012 Aurora Shooting” wherein suspect James Holmes [photo 2nd left] is purported to have opened fire during the playing of a movie killing 12 and injuring 58 in one of the worst mass shootings in recent US history.

Interestingly, this report notes, James Holmes is extremely intelligent, a gifted scientist and grew up in an affluent neighborhood; an eerie similarity he shares with other noted American killers of the past 3 decades including Andrew Cunanan, John Gardner, John Hinckley, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kaczynski, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.

Most important to note about James Holmes, however, this report says, is that his father, Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.

Robert Holmes, whose “blueblood” family links go back to the Mayflower, is known throughout the global banking community as being the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed and is credited with developing predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.

Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO, which was formally known as Fair, Isaac and Company, and which every American citizen is beholden to should they need to borrow money.

The massive banking crime being investigated by the US Senate is called the LIBOR Scandal where UK banks fixed the London Interbank Borrowing Rate with the complicity of the Bank of England, the US Federal Reserve (which knew about this crime for 4 years and didn’t report it) and many other major Western banks.



: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 17, 2012, 09:49:19 PM
^ ^ ^ ^

Sometimes there are kernels of truth
in the Sorchal Faal stuff ... though it
is no doubt mostly "embellished
Russian propaganda".

However ... here is Wayne Madsen
with a lot of the same info on ROBERT HOLMES:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234391.msg1367427#msg1367427


.... and>~~~~

Here's the PATENT for "Cortronic Neural Networks"
as mentioned in the Madsen piece ... Assignee: HNC SOFTWARE.
This 'invention' is about mind-control via computer.

http://www.fenwick.com/fenwickdocuments/hnc_cortronics.pdf (http://www.fenwick.com/fenwickdocuments/hnc_cortronics.pdf)


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 17, 2012, 10:05:13 PM
 

MUST SEE: Trailer for movie: SANDY ~ Rise of the Guardians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-HbeW18oRDw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-HbeW18oRDw)


Zen Gardner .....

Operation Sandy – Mass Trauma-Based Mind Manipulation

http://www.zengardner.com/operation-sandy-mass-trauma-based-mind-manipulation/ (http://www.zengardner.com/operation-sandy-mass-trauma-based-mind-manipulation/)


~~~~~ ALSO~> Remember the chopper footage with the cops chasing
a suspect behind the school?

Wellll .... there was a second guy back there! WATCH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An1yHCzdNhQ&feature=em-video_response_received (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An1yHCzdNhQ&feature=em-video_response_received)

The Operation Sandy stuff is interesting, but that WABC, AP video about another shooter might be bombshell!  Those are not the actions of a father who was franticly casing the school looking out for the safety of his endangered daughter inside.  That guy was maybe 100+ yards from the school and hiding when they showed up, and you can't tell by the footage if the cops ever catch up to the figure.  Potentially critical footage! 

Furthermore, why was a father in an upscale neighborhood wearing camoflagued pants and a dark shirt at 9:30 am on a Friday morning anyway, and while hiding in the woods?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 17, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
The Operation Sandy stuff is interesting, but that WABC, AP video about another shooter might be bombshell!  Those are not the actions of a father who was franticly casing the school looking out for the safety of his endangered daughter inside.  That guy was maybe 100+ yards from the school and hiding when they showed up, and you can't tell by the footage if the cops ever catch up to the figure.  Potentially critical footage! 

Furthermore, why was a father in an upscale neighborhood wearing camoflagued pants and a dark shirt at 9:30 am on a Friday morning anyway, and while hiding in the woods?

Yes ... stinks to high Heaven.They obviously didn't have
all the local cops on board. Even if they caught the guy
in this video (as well as the "Father") they were probably
told to shut-the-heck up if they wanted to see their kids
alive when they got home.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 17, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
Yes ... stinks to high Heaven.They obviously didn't have
all the local cops on board. Even if they caught the guy
in this video (as well as the "Father") they were probably
told to shut-the-heck up if they wanted to see their kids
alive when they got home.



I'd imagine you're right, or something to that effect.  There definately is some scripting control going on with more misinfo and disinfo than normal from the 4th estate.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 17, 2012, 10:43:53 PM
Yeah that is some real interesting stuff.  The name 'Sandy' was just coming up a bit much here of late.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 17, 2012, 11:33:29 PM
Seems she was not just a reclusive, gun wielding meme of a human with a full pantry,...



Nancy Lanza kept family trials private
By ADAM GELLER
Associated PressAssociated Press
Posted:   12/17/2012 12:07:58 AM PST
December 17, 2012 5:37 PM GMTUpdated:   12/17/2012 09:37:15 AM PST

NEWTOWN, Conn. — At the bar, everybody knew her name.

Nancy Lanza was the one who, if she heard you were short on cash, regularly offered to pick up the tab at My Place.

Two or three nights a week, Lanza — the mother of the gunman in Connecticut's horrific school massacre — came in for carryout salads, but stayed for Chardonnay and good humor. The divorced mother of two — still smooth-skinned and ash blonde at 52 — clearly didn't have to work, but was always glad to share talk of her beloved Red Sox, gardening and a growing enthusiasm for target shooting.

But while Lanza spoke proudly about her sons and brought them in for breakfast when they were younger, friends say she held one card very close: home life, especially its trials and setbacks, was off limits.

Now, the secrets Lanza kept are at the center of the questions that envelop this New England town, grieving over the slaughter unleashed by her 20-year-old son Adam, who investigators say killed his mother Friday with one of her own guns before murdering 26 children and teachers at a nearby school.

"Her family life was her family life when we were together. She kept it private. That was her own thing," said Louise Tambascio, who runs the warmly lit pizzeria and bar with her own sons, and became a shopping and dining companion of Nancy Lanza's.

Friends had met Lanza's younger son, who stared down at the floor and didn't speak when she brought him in. They knew he'd switched schools more than once and that she'd tried home schooling him. But while she occasionally expressed concern about his future during evenings at the bar, she never complained about anything at all.
"I heard her as a parent. I always said that I wouldn't want to be in her shoes. But I thought, 'Wow. She holds it well,'" said Tambascio's son, John.

Despite those challenges, the trappings of Lanza's life in Newtown were comfortable. When she and then-husband Peter Lanza moved to the central Connecticut community in 1998 from southern New Hampshire, they bought a brand new 3,100-square-foot colonial set on more than two acres in the Bennett's Farm neighborhood. Nancy Lanza had previously worked as a stock broker at John Hancock in Boston and her husband was a successful executive.

When the couple divorced in 2009, he left their spacious home to Nancy Lanza and told her she would never have to work another day in her life, said Marsha Lanza of Crystal Lake, Il., the alleged gunman's aunt. The split-up was not acrimonious and Adam spent time with both his mother and father, she said.

Those who knew Nancy Lanza recall her as very generous, often giving money to those she met and doing volunteer work.

Lanza also began telling friends that she'd bought guns and had taken up target shooting, John Tambascio said.

All three of the guns that Adam Lanza carried into Sandy Hook Elementary were owned and registered by his mother — a pair of handguns and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, his primary weapon.

Investigators said Sunday that Nancy Lanza visited shooting ranges several times and that her son also visited an area range.

Ginger Colburn, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, said it's still not clear whether Nancy Lanza brought her son to the range or whether he ever fired a weapon there.

Marsha Lanza told the Chicago Sun-Times that Nancy Lanza wanted guns for protection. "She prepared for the worst," Marsha Lanza told the newspaper. "I didn't know that they (the guns) would be used on her."


Guns were her hobby," Dan Holmes, who got to know Lanza while doing landscaping work for her, told The Washington Post. "She told me she liked the single-mindedness of shooting."

But while trips to shooting ranges gave Lanza an outlet, she returned home to the ever-present challenges of raising a son with intractable problems.

At Newtown High School, Adam Lanza was often having crises that only his mother could defuse.

"He would have an episode, and she'd have to return or come to the high school and deal with it," said Richard Novia, the school district's head of security until 2008, who got to know the family because both Lanza sons joined the school technology club he chartered.

Novia said Adam Lanza would sometimes withdraw completely "from whatever he was supposed to be doing," whether it was sitting in class or reading a book.

Adam Lanza "could take flight, which I think was the big issue, and it wasn't a rebellious or defiant thing," Novia said. "It was withdrawal."

The club gave the boy a place where he could be more at ease and indulge his interest in computers. His anxieties appeared to ease somewhat, but they never disappeared. When people approached him in the hallways, he would press himself against the wall or walk in a different direction, clutching tight to his black briefcase.

Marsha Lanza described Nancy Lanza as a good mother.

"If he had needed consulting, she would have gotten it," Marsha Lanza said. "Nancy wasn't one to deny reality."

But friends and neighbors said Lanza never spoke about the difficulties of raising her son. Mostly she noted how smart he was and that she hoped, even with his problems, that he'd find a way to succeed.

"We never talked about the family," John Tambascio said. "She just came in to have a great time."

Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 18, 2012, 12:11:36 AM
It is clear what the agenda is going to be:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/16/at-least-26-dead-in-shooting-at-connecticut-school/#ixzz2FFol20Dr
As the town mourns the deaths, President Barack Obama will attend an interfaith memorial service Sunday in Newtown.  It will be the fourth time he has traveled to a city after a mass shooting.


Like vultures gathering around a kill, the grief whores have landed:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-connecticut-shooting-grief-counseling-20121216,0,346718.story
NEWTOWN, CONN. — Grief counselors and child psychologists from throughout the country gathered ....

I wonder who is paying the bills.  Somehow, I get the feeling it's the taxpayer.



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: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 18, 2012, 12:19:50 AM
AM I READING THIS RIGHT?   WTF?????????

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/12/us/sandy-hook-timeline/index.html
At the police station, dispatchers began to take calls from inside the school. Authorities say the first emergency call about the shooting came in at "approximately" 9:30 a.m.
"Sandy Hook school. Caller is indicating she thinks someone is shooting in the building," a dispatcher told fire and medical personnel, according to 911 tapes.
Police and other first responders arrived on scene about 20 minutes after the first calls.

They have an active shooter in an elementary school, with a fire station a hundred yards away, and it takes them TWENTY MINUTES to arrive??????
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 12:35:24 AM
AM I READING THIS RIGHT?   WTF?????????

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/12/us/sandy-hook-timeline/index.html
At the police station, dispatchers began to take calls from inside the school. Authorities say the first emergency call about the shooting came in at "approximately" 9:30 a.m.
"Sandy Hook school. Caller is indicating she thinks someone is shooting in the building," a dispatcher told fire and medical personnel, according to 911 tapes.
Police and other first responders arrived on scene about 20 minutes after the first calls.

They have an active shooter in an elementary school, with a fire station a hundred yards away, and it takes them TWENTY MINUTES to arrive??????

It is right.  Question is, is it bad reporting, cause if not that mean police didn't show up until 9:50.  Haven't come accross that time of arrival anywhere yet, all 9:40 ish.  So many of the 'facts' are in flux still,... this feels like an Infowar on shifting Sands, pardon the pun.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 18, 2012, 01:21:34 AM
... police didn't show up until 9:50.  Haven't come across that time of arrival anywhere yet, all 9:40 ish

That's when they acknowledge getting the first 911 call; not when they got there.  Show me a source that they entered the school at 9:40am.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 10:35:04 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/nra-goes-silent-connecticut-school-shooting-080658189.html

12/18/12

Where is the NRA?

The nation's largest gun-rights organization — typically outspoken about its positions even after shooting deaths — has gone all but silent since last week's rampage at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that left 26 people dead, including 20 children.

Its Facebook page has disappeared. It has posted no tweets. It makes no mention of the shooting on its website. None of its leaders hit the media circuit Sunday to promote its support of the Second Amendment right to bear arms as the nation mourns the latest shooting victims and opens a new debate over gun restrictions. On Monday, the NRA offered no rebuttal as 300 anti-gun protesters marched to its Capitol Hill office.

After previous mass shootings — such as in Oregon and Wisconsin — the group was quick to both send its condolences and defend gun owners' constitutional rights, popular among millions of Americans. There's no indication that the National Rifle Association's silence this time is a signal that a change in its ardent opposition to gun restrictions is imminent. Nor has there been any explanation for its absence from the debate thus far.

The NRA, which claims 4.3 million members and is based in Northern Virginia, did not return telephone messages Monday seeking comment.

Its deep-pocketed efforts to oppose gun control laws have proven resilient. Firearms are in a third or more of U.S. households and suspicion runs deep of an overbearing government whenever it proposes expanding federal authority. The argument of gun-rights advocates that firearm ownership is a bedrock freedom as well as a necessary option for self-defense has proved persuasive enough to dampen political enthusiasm for substantial change.

Seldom has the NRA gone so long after a fatal shooting without a public presence. It resumed tweeting just one day after a gunman killed two people and then himself at an Oregon shopping mall last Tuesday, and one day after six people were fatally shot at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in August.

The Connecticut shootings occurred three days after the incident in Oregon.

"The NRA's probably doing a good thing by laying low," said Hogan Gidley, a Republican strategist and gun owner who was a top aide to Rick Santorum's presidential bid. "Often after these tragedies, so many look to lay blame on someone, and the NRA is an easy whipping boy for this."

Indeed, since the Connecticut shootings, the NRA has been taunted and criticized at length, vitriol that may have prompted the shuttering of its Facebook page just a day after the association boasted about reaching 1.7 million supporters on the social media network.

Twitter users have been relentless, protesting the organization with hashtags like NoWayNRA.

The NRA has not responded to them. Its last tweets, sent Friday, offered a chance to win an auto flashlight.

Offline, some 300 protesters gathered outside the NRA's lobbying headquarters on Capitol Hill on Monday chanting, "Shame on the NRA" and waving signs declaring "Kill the 2nd Amendment, Not Children" and "Protect Children, Not Guns."

"I had to be here," said Gayle Fleming, 65, a real estate agent from Arlington, Va., saying she was attending her first anti-gun rally. "These were 20 babies. I will be at every rally, will sign every letter, call every congressman going forward."

Retired attorney Kathleen Buffon of Chevy Chase, Md., reflected on earlier mass shootings, saying: "All of the other ones, they've been terrible. This is the last straw. These were children."

"The NRA has had a stranglehold on Congress," she added as she marched toward the NRA's unmarked office. "It's time to call them out."

The group's reach on Capitol Hill is wide as it wields its deep pockets to defeat lawmakers, many of them Democrats, who push for restrictions on gun ownership.

The NRA outspent its chief opponent by a 73-1 margin to lobby the outgoing Congress, according to the nonpartisan Sunlight Foundation, which tracks such spending. It spent more than 4,000 times its biggest opponents during the 2012 election.

In all, the group spent at least $24 million this election cycle — $16.8 million through its political action committee and nearly $7.5 million through its affiliated Institute for Legislative Action. Its chief foil, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, spent just $5,816.

On direct lobbying, the NRA also was mismatched. Through July 1, the NRA spent $4.4 million to lobby Congress to the Brady Campaign's $60,000.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jacob Law December 18, 2012, 10:44:13 AM
That is because they are the control opposition, there never has been a bill they havent't comprised with!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 18, 2012, 10:58:59 AM
Pastor Chuck Baldwin's Comments on the Connecticut School Shooting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wqYEWtrdsY
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 11:25:05 AM

That's when they acknowledge getting the first 911 call; not when they got there.  Show me a source that they entered the school at 9:40am.


newtownpatch.com (http://newtown.patch.com/articles/police-no-motive-emerging-in-newtown-school-shooting)

"Police radio dispatches aired by CNN reveal harrowing early communications to emergency responders who arrived at the elementary school around 9:40 a.m. Friday.

"Caller is indicating she thinks that someone is shooting in the building," a dispatcher says. "The front glass has been broken. We are not sure why."

And later: "All units, the individual that I have on the phone is continuing to hear what he believes to be gunfire. Units are responding to Sandy Hook School at this time. The shooting appears to have stopped. The school is in lockdown.""

_____________________________

Considering how bad reporting has been and how many 'facts' have shifted, this is obviously not a conclusive reference, but it is a reference.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 18, 2012, 11:45:24 AM
Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters (A CLOSE LOOK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_fI0hm1dqY&feature=player_embedded
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 18, 2012, 11:52:29 AM
That is because they are the control opposition, there never has been a bill they havent't comprised with!

True dat.

To the extent that the N.R.A. had a political arm, it opposed some gun-control measures and supported many others, lobbying for new state laws in the nineteen-twenties and thirties, which introduced waiting periods for handgun buyers and required permits for anyone wishing to carry a concealed weapon. It also supported the 1934 National Firearms Act—the first major federal gun-control legislation—and the 1938 Federal Firearms Act, which together created a licensing system for dealers and prohibitively taxed the private ownership of automatic weapons (“machine guns”).



In 1957, when the N.R.A. moved into new headquarters, its motto, at the building’s entrance, read, “Firearms Safety Education, Marksmanship Training, Shooting for Recreation.” It didn’t say anything about freedom, or self-defense, or rights.



The N.R.A. supported the 1968 Gun Control Act, with some qualms. Orth was quoted in American Rifleman as saying that although some elements of the legislation “appear unduly restrictive and unjustified in their application to law-abiding citizens, the measure as a whole appears to be one that the sportsmen of America can live with.”

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/04/23/120423fa_fact_lepore?currentPage=all
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: bento December 18, 2012, 11:58:13 AM
The LIEberals say on one hand we are over reacting to have armed people in schools, and yet they say these tragic shooting happen every day? Classic case of double think.

And if these guns kill ton's of people, then where is the legally owned firearm people committing mass crime waves. If there are so many guns then why is there not so much more crime?

Record guns sales should equal record crime rate. right?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 12:35:41 PM
Plumber: Sandy Hook Shooter Adam Lanza Played ‘Call of Duty’ for Hours
posted 45 minutes ago by Heavy Staff
heavy.com (http://www.heavy.com/regions/2012/12/sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanza-call-of-duty/)

 
Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza spent hours in his dark basement quarters playing Call of Duty and other violent video games that feature weapons like the ones he used in the Newtown, Connecticut, massacre.

This is according plumber Peter Wlasuk, who spoke to the Sun about his visits to the posh Newtown home Adam shared with his mom, Nancy, and sometimes his older brother, Ryan.

Wlasuk said Ryan occupied the basement before moving out, when Adam took over the military-themed lair:
 
The boys were fans of the military. They had posters all over the wall in the basement. They had one poster of every piece of military equipment the US ever made. It was a huge poster with every tank every made. The kids could tell you about guns they had never seen from the 40s, 50s and 60s. The kids who play these games know all about them. I’m not blaming the games for what happened. But they see a picture of a historical gun and say ‘I’ve used that on Call Of Duty’.

As noted by the Sun and other outlets, two other recent mass murderers were known to play Call of Duty.

Anders Breivik, who killed 77 people in a bombing and shooting spree in Norway, and Mohammed Merah, who killed seven in France, both played the game. Breivik actually used the game to prepare for his massacre.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
http://buchanan.org/blog/the-dead-soul-of-adam-lanza-5428


  I only took an excerpt from Pat Buchanan's column

The Dead Soul of Adam Lanza



Since the news first came in Friday from Newtown, we have argued about guns in America and mental illness, but heard little about the moral sickness of our society.

Americans have always owned guns. But in Prohibition, when gangsters like John Dillinger, “Machine Gun” Kelly and “Baby Face” Nelson were notorious, the most remembered atrocity was the “St. Valentine’s Day Massacre.” Al Capone’s gang executed seven of Bugs Moran’s gang in a Chicago garage.

Yet, just two years ago, when one Washington, D.C., drive-by shooting ended with four dead on a sidewalk and five wounded, it was just local news.

Why are these atrocities growing more frequent and deadly?

We are told that it is because the guns used — especially assault rifles like Russian-made AK-47s and civilian copies of the M-16 used in Vietnam, like the Bushmaster — are all too available.

But the guns used in the Sandy Hook massacre were legally purchased by Lanza’s mother, and she and Adam lived in a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the country.

And the Bushmaster is not a machine gun but a semi-automatic, as are the 100-year-old Colt .45 and M-1 rifle used by GIs in World War II. Fully automatic weapons like the Thompson submachine gun cannot be purchased without a federal license. No fully automatic weapon has been used in any of these massacres.

Will ending all sales and transfers of assault rifles and limiting the rounds in clips and magazines reduce these massacres in malls, movie theaters and schools? Did it succeed when the assault weapons ban was in force in the Clinton years?

If assault rifles are evil things that ought not be in the hands of decent Americans, why do “shoot-to-kill” video games feature these weapons?

Why does Hollywood glamorize assault rifles in action-packed films of slaughter starring Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Chuck Norris and Jason Statham?

Few of America’s young have seen an assault weapon fired outside the military. Scores of millions have seen them fired on TV. Many of our movies are advertisements for the efficiency of assault weapons in the hands of good guys doing heroic deeds.

Are the folks who think America would be a better place with a more restrictive Second Amendment willing to restrict the First Amendment to stop all distribution of movies and cable shows that depict famous actors blasting enemies with assault weapons?

Not long ago, there existed in our hearts “a fear of God.”

How, we would ask ourselves, if we commit an evil act like murder, will we answer at God’s judgment seat? For He will decide if we enter what the president called in Newtown, God’s “eternal house in heaven.”

But if God is dead, not to worry. Just put the gun to your head and pull the trigger, and it’s over. No trial. No disgrace. No prison. Nothing to worry about anymore.

No voice of conscience told Adam: Do not do this evil thing! Now he is no longer a nobody, a nerd, a recluse. He is famous. Everybody is talking about him, and ruminating on what might have motivated him.

Adam wanted to be somebody. And now he is.

And out there others like him are thinking: That could be me.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
Plumber: Sandy Hook Shooter Adam Lanza Played ‘Call of Duty’ for Hours
posted 45 minutes ago by Heavy Staff
heavy.com (http://www.heavy.com/regions/2012/12/sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanza-call-of-duty/)

 
Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza spent hours in his dark basement quarters playing Call of Duty and other violent video games that feature weapons like the ones he used in the Newtown, Connecticut, massacre.

This is according plumber Peter Wlasuk, who spoke to the Sun about his visits to the posh Newtown home Adam shared with his mom, Nancy, and sometimes his older brother, Ryan.

Wlasuk said Ryan occupied the basement before moving out, when Adam took over the military-themed lair:
 
The boys were fans of the military. They had posters all over the wall in the basement. They had one poster of every piece of military equipment the US ever made. It was a huge poster with every tank every made. The kids could tell you about guns they had never seen from the 40s, 50s and 60s. The kids who play these games know all about them. I’m not blaming the games for what happened. But they see a picture of a historical gun and say ‘I’ve used that on Call Of Duty’.

As noted by the Sun and other outlets, two other recent mass murderers were known to play Call of Duty.

Anders Breivik, who killed 77 people in a bombing and shooting spree in Norway, and Mohammed Merah, who killed seven in France, both played the game. Breivik actually used the game to prepare for his massacre.

  I'm just talking here and it might not be related at all.  A man named Ted Bundy killed over 30 women for sex back in the 70's and 80's.  He was a serial killer.  Most of the victims were in southern states.  He was executed in FL. by death in the electric chair.  He was interviewed just before his execution and I remember what he said when questioned why he killed women for sex.  Paraphrasing he said, "When I started I got hooked on pornography in magazines and then later I got hooked on movies.  A little later on I wanted the real thing--live women."  So I am thinking for the really deranged person, these video games are beyond bad.  I know one thing--it desensitizes these young people.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 12:59:24 PM
  I'm just talking here and it might not be related at all.  A man named Ted Bundy killed over 30 women for sex back in the 70's and 80's.  He was a serial killer.  Most of the victims were in southern states.  He was executed in FL. by death in the electric chair.  He was interviewed just before his execution and I remember what he said when questioned why he killed women for sex.  Paraphrasing he said, "When I started I got hooked on pornography in magazines and then later I got hooked on movies.  A little later on I wanted the real thing--live women."  So I am thinking for the really deranged person, these video games are beyond bad.  I know one thing--it desensitizes these young people.

I agree 100%, however, in light of this article we read, I'm shocked Lt. Col. Dave Grossman hasn't expressed any outrage about it(at least yet). Remember this was the same guy who got alot of national spotlight after Columbine exposing violent video games and consequences it has on the youth. He was profiled by 60 Minutes, and toured the country 6 days a week at PTA meetings(for like $5000 each time) giving lectures on this for a good while.

And then of course there was Joe Lieberman, John McCain, Henry Hyde, etc and all of their rants. Not that I'm saying Grossman was wrong, but it just seemed like he was nothing more than an oppostion-controlled plant to stir up emotions from fearful parents.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 18, 2012, 01:04:47 PM
I play call of duty, world of warcraft as does my children.  I have played violent video games since my 1st one(Wolfenstein 3D on DOS).

I grew up on Friday the 13, nightmare on Elm street, Halloween(Michael Myers), etc.

I listen to SLAYER, Marylin Manson, Dying Fetus, Gore Guts and listened to Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, etc growing up.

Hell I just took my 19 and 13 yr old to their first concert last month.

Who did we go see?  CANNIBAL CORPSE!  They do songs like
Addicted To Vaginal Skin
Blood Drenched Execution
Blunt Force Castration
Dismembered And Molested
Entrails Ripped From A Virgin's cvnt
f**ked With A Knife
Meat Hook Sodomy
Orgasm Through Torture
AND MANY MORE.

We haven't killed nor have the desire to harm anyone!

So don't give me that video game, music, bullshit

WE ARE PREPPERS AND WE OWN GUNS!!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 18, 2012, 01:06:02 PM

http://www.chron.com/default/article/Father-of-Conn-school-gunman-We-too-ask-why-4121522.php
Peter Lanza, the father of 20-year-old Adam Lanza, who shot to death his mother in their home and then slaughtered 26 people in an elementary school before killing himself, issued the following statement Saturday

Reporter Is First To Tell Adam Lanza’s Father of Connection to Shooting

Peter Lanza’s home in Stamford, Conn., around 40 miles from Newtown, Conn
Peter Lanza is a vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services, according to his LinkedIn profile.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=82504461
Peter Lanza, now a vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services, agreed to annual alimony payments that started at $240,000 and would have reached $298,800 in 2015

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/peter-lanza/11/515/83b
Past
Tax Leader - Partnerships, JVs and REITs at General Electric
Senior Tax Manager at Ernst & Young
Vice President - Tax at PaineWebber Properties

http://seekingalpha.com/article/105984-general-electric-gets-a-140b-bailout-what-s-the-point-of-aaa
General Electric Gets a $140B Bailout - What's the Point of AAA?
...
 G.E.'s financial services business may be the blackest box on Wall Street. The unit has little transparency, no regulatory oversight, and now, we are finding out, an unstable funding model.

Quote from: TahoeBlue on December 11, 2012, 08:03:46 PM
Obama advisor Jeffrey Immelt on tv show; "Communisim Works".

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/immelt-communist-china-works_665280.html
Yes GE and Obama - it is the "New" communism and he likes it. This really is the post WWII MIC economy coming out of the shadows. Oh and don't forget that Charlie Rose is a regular Bilderberg attendee

http://www.ge.com/audio_video/ge/careers/china_this_is_ge_china.html
China: This is GE China - With every one of GE's businesses present, China is GE's second home

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_R._Immelt
Jeffrey Robert "Jeff" Immelt (born February 19, 1956) is an American business executive. He is currently the chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the U.S.-based conglomerate General Electric. He was selected by GE's Board of Directors in 2000 to replace Jack Welch following his retirement. Previously, Immelt had headed up GE's Medical Systems division (now known as GE Healthcare) as its President and CEO.
...
His tenure as chairman and CEO started off on a low note - he took over the role on September 7, 2001,[7] just four days before the terrorist attacks on the United States, which killed two employees and cost GE's insurance business $600 million, as well as having a direct effect on the company's Aircraft Engines sector
...
Immelt lives with his wife Andrea in New Canaan, Connecticut. ( Illuminati country)
...
In February 2009, Immelt was appointed as a member to the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board to provide the president and his administration with advice and counsel in fixing America's economic downturn
...
On January 21, 2011, President Obama announced Immelt's appointment as chairman of his outside panel of economic advisers, succeeding former Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker
...
Immelt will retain his post at GE while becoming "chairman of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, a newly named panel that President Obama is creating by executive order."[17] Despite this, in July 2011 Immelt's General Electric announced that it is in the process of relocating its X-ray division from Wisconsin to China.[18][19] Immelt had previously referred to China as GE's "second home market

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/06/fed-members-gave-their-own-banks-4-trillion-in-secret-bailouts-2264415.html

Federal Reserve Board Members Gave Their Own Banks $4 Trillion in Bailouts

2. Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of General Electric, served on the New York Fed’s Board of Directors from 2006-2011. General Electric received $16 billion in low- interest financing from the Federal Reserve’s Commercial Paper Funding Facility during this time period.

The GAO study found that allowing members of the banking industry to both elect and serve on the Federal Reserve’s board of directors creates “an appearance of a conflict of interest” and poses “reputational risks” to the Federal Reserve System

WASHINGTON – June 12 2012 – More than $4 trillion in near zero-interest Federal Reserve loans and other financial assistance went to the banks and businesses of at least 18 current and former Federal Reserve regional bank directors in the aftermath of the 2008 financial collapse, according to Government Accountability Office records made public for the first time today by Sen. Bernie Sanders.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/07/20/titanic-banks-hit-libor-iceberg/
Bid-rigging was the subject of U.S. v. Carollo, Goldberg and Grimm, a ten-year suit in which the U.S. Department of Justice obtained a judgment on May 11 against three GE Capital employees. 

Billions of dollars were skimmed from cities all across America by colluding to rig the public bids on municipal bonds, a business worth $3.7 trillion.  Other banks involved in the bidding scheme included Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo and UBS.  These banks have already paid a total of $673 million in restitution after agreeing to cooperate in the government’s case

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-scam-wall-street-learned-from-the-mafia-20120620
June 21, 2012
...
The defendants in the case – Dominick Carollo, Steven Goldberg and Peter Grimm – worked for GE Capital, the finance arm of General Electric. Along with virtually every major bank and finance company on Wall Street – not just GE, but J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America, UBS, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Wachovia and more – these three Wall Street wiseguys spent the past decade taking part in a breathtakingly broad scheme to skim billions of dollars from the coffers of cities and small towns across America. The banks achieved this gigantic rip-off by secretly colluding to rig the public bids on municipal bonds, a business worth $3.7 trillion
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 02:53:20 PM
I play call of duty, world of warcraft as does my children.  I have played violent video games since my 1st one(Wolfenstein 3D on DOS).

I grew up on Friday the 13, nightmare on Elm street, Halloween(Michael Myers), etc.

I listen to SLAYER, Marylin Manson, Dying Fetus, Gore Guts and listened to Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, etc growing up.

Hell I just took my 19 and 13 yr old to their first concert last month.

Who did we go see?  CANNIBAL CORPSE!  They do songs like
Addicted To Vaginal Skin
Blood Drenched Execution
Blunt Force Castration
Dismembered And Molested
Entrails Ripped From A Virgin's cvnt
f**ked With A Knife
Meat Hook Sodomy
Orgasm Through Torture
AND MANY MORE.

We haven't killed nor have the desire to harm anyone!

So don't give me that video game, music, bullshit

WE ARE PREPPERS AND WE OWN GUNS!!

  Are you a deranged person?  If not, then I wasn't talking about you.  I wordsmithed that sentence hoping that no one thought I was picking on their forms of entertainment.  But I knew that this type of post would be made IF THE PERSON DID NOT READ MY POST THOROUGHLY.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 02:57:40 PM
Well, FYI, wasn't there a 3rd shooter at Columbine?(I remember Bill Cooper talking about it in his Mystery Babylon series)

Personally, I'm against all forms of violent entertainment, but to say the Columbine rampage happened b/c of violent entertainment influencing those 2 young boys alone is absolutely false, as the whole event was a false flag operation to begin with. But en yet the MSM for 2.5 years went adnauseum over violence in the media, movie theaters failing to card teens over R rated movies, etc - but all of this debate completely went away when 9/11 happened, as the shift of the focus was on "terrorists".
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 03:08:20 PM
Well, FYI, wasn't there a 3rd shooter at Columbine?(I remember Bill Cooper talking about it in his Mystery Babylon series)

Personally, I'm against all forms of violent entertainment, but to say the Columbine rampage happened b/c of violent entertainment influencing those 2 young boys alone is absolutely false, as the whole event was a false flag operation to begin with. But en yet the MSM for 2.5 years went adnauseum over violence in the media, movie theaters failing to card teens over R rated movies, etc - but all of this debate completely went away when 9/11 happened, as the shift of the focus was on "terrorists".


  3 or more.  I heard a story that their were agents behind the scenes, explosives, etc.  Who knows?

  I heard Bill Cooper say that he thought the Columbine killers were programed to respond to some audio or visual stimulus to do exactly what they did.  (from William Cooper's Psycho Politics Series. )  Who knows?

  There is a lot of conjecture.
: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 03:09:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w


 :o
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 18, 2012, 03:16:32 PM
Bilderberger Charlie Rose interviews Illuminati billionaire Michael Bloomberg
http://www.charlierose.com/guest/view/2343
Michael Bloomberg on Dec 17, 2012
Mayor Michael Bloomberg on the shootings in Newtown, Connecticut

http://themerrypoppins.blogspot.com/2012/04/guy-who-walks-around-with-bunch-of.html
A guy who walks around with a bunch of bodyguards criticizes self-defense laws

If we all had half a dozen bodyguards to protect us like New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, we might all think that Florida's "stand your ground" law and other self defense measures were a "license to murder."

http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/pricey-body-guards-expand-for-city-officials-1.2018547
Pricey body guards expand for city officials

(http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.2018558.1276469158!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_228/image.jpg)
While flanked by his 2 bodyguards, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg attends an event at the Queens County Courthouse.  (Andrew Hinderaker)

City officials have been getting increased security in recent years, and while the extra protection has proven crucial in some incidents, not all New Yorkers are happy about picking up the tab.

Compensation just one NYPD detective who guards city officials is nearly $100,000, according to NYPD figures. “I don’t think we should pay for that,” said Joe Pill, a Brooklyn resident.

Hizzoner has long had a bodyguard or two, but the detail expanded after San Francisco’s mayor George Moscone was assassinated in 1978, said Ed Koch, who was  mayor at the time. He got another guard after the pope was shot in 1981, and his detail eventually expanded to five , he said. The NYPD’s Municipal Security Section, which handles mayoral protection, was modeled after the Secret Service. ...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 18, 2012, 03:23:50 PM

newtownpatch.com (http://newtown.patch.com/articles/police-no-motive-emerging-in-newtown-school-shooting)

"Police radio dispatches aired by CNN reveal harrowing early communications to emergency responders who arrived at the elementary school around 9:40 a.m. Friday.
Thanks for the update.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 03:27:35 PM
A MUST SEE VIDEO OF A LADY WHO SURVIVED THE LUBYS SHOOTING IN TEXAS TESTIFYING IN SENATE WITH CHUCKIE SCHUMER SITTING RIGHT THERE. SHE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS AND IS VERY GOOD: (HER PARENTS DIED IN THAT SHOOTING)

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239579.msg1391400;topicseen#msg1391400
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 03:28:18 PM
SANDY HOOK FATHER CAUGHT ACTING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 03:30:01 PM

A guy who walks around with a bunch of bodyguards criticizes self-defense laws



Bloomberg proves every day how unAmerican he is and who he really works for - THE GLOBALISTS! The guy is a joke and yet another hypocrite!   ::)

You can bet that every one of these  so called leaders calling for the guns of the American citizens ALL HAVE GUNS AND PROTECTORS. COMPLETE HYPOCRISY!
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: starvosan December 18, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
WOW!  I wasn't a fan of the 'it's all an act' theory, but now I'm starting to wonder.  Great catch.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Joe(WI) December 18, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
And Youtube wont let me download it :P
From the cache :P

Anyone succeed in DLd it?
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: SUPREMEMASTER December 18, 2012, 03:36:41 PM
Woah. Checkmate.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 18, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
 This gut wrenching situation, tragedy or abomination has the attention of every citizen in our nation, of course it does, it was a insane act, innocent children were merclessly killed. Attention yes, what we will never see is the hard cold bottom line facts.
 It is generally accepted that our MSM is the word off the mountain, whatsoever they tell the people is righteous and verified  w/ the regimes stamp of approval.
 Accepted by the majority.
Oswald killed JFK, Ruby killed Osy  out of a sense of patriotism.
Sirhan killed RFK, no one truly knows why do they, even the dupe doesn't.
Ray killed MLK , he was a  fired up racist
The Gulf of Tonkin was a N.V attack.
The SS Liberty attack was an accident.
3 million killed in Vietnam was simply collaterall damage, as was 60,000 US sons.
Iraq was chock full of WMD's.
Osama was a superman who fooled, NORAD,NSA,DOD,CIA,FBI,FAA,etc and faultlessly accomplished this attack.
The undy bomber set his nuts on fire to bring down a plane.
The red haired man head with Bozo the clown hair, single handed performed the movie theater shooting while wearing a mask.
Oh boy there is more, pages could be filled with these fairly tales.
Why aren't the people questioning our news media, have they given up, find it easier to go along, or don't give a shiite as long as it doesn't effect them or their lifestyle or just maby its FEAR deep down gut stuff they can't admit to.. Nations are falling, innocents are being killed, mangled and tortured with our banner held on high. WTF.
 This shooter  left his car fully armed, shot his way into a elementery school, held over 90 clips 2 pistols and one rifle, full coverage on survellance cameras so its been said but not evaluated, this kid was the son of a GE big dog, raised in a affluent area, said to be quiet but intelligent. he will be painted as a simple nut job, no further evidence will be provided by our MSM other than it was a semi auto 5.56  people will definetly become enraged weapons can be owned by our citizenry. Its coming around isn't it? DECADES of the BS. The globalist are thrilled as the people keep nodding their heads no matter what scenario they pull off.
 




  
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Optimus December 18, 2012, 03:44:22 PM
Nice find!

Check out the related video. The bad actor sheds no tears just like obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4pREERbcA
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Dorrogeray December 18, 2012, 03:49:14 PM
I have downloaded it..  http://leteckaposta.cz/407559836 (http://leteckaposta.cz/407559836) (dl it here)

anyone else wants to throw up?  :-\
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: SUPREMEMASTER December 18, 2012, 03:53:24 PM
And Youtube wont let me download it :P
From the cache :P

Anyone succeed in DLd it?

I have downloaded it..  http://leteckaposta.cz/407559836 (http://leteckaposta.cz/407559836) (dl it here)

anyone else wants to throw up?  :-\

http://www.2shared.com/video/YwdBQdn6/Sandy_Hook_Shooting_Exposed_As.html

Was out of editing time for my other post in this same thread so had to post twice.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 03:53:45 PM
I'm speechless, he's clearly, clearly acting.  Serious WTF.

I wrote the story up as the events unfolded.  Amassed a good set of links and videos on the shooting if anyone wants to check it out.....
http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-connecticut-elementary-shooting-is-a-staged-false-flag/

Man this thing wreaks.....
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Dorrogeray December 18, 2012, 03:56:06 PM
Optimus sent this thread to showtips@infowars.com

AJ will go ape..

: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: CheneysWorstNightmare December 18, 2012, 04:08:17 PM
Weird.  Very weird. 
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Letsbereal December 18, 2012, 04:13:42 PM
If we're going this way what about this?

My Response To The Aurora Colorado Shooting - SNL MadTV EXPOSED! PT1 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hu7zkRNWiI

My Response To The Aurora Colorado Shooting - SNL MadTV EXPOSED! PT2 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQY4TB15uY

Source: http://wellaware1.com/colorado_shooting_hoax.htm


Sandy Hook Principal Gives Interview After Being Shot Dead http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/sandy-hook-principle-gives-interview-after-being-shot-dead/

http://newtownbee.com/News/News/2012/12-December/2012-12-14__19-39-32/Stories+Of+Heroism+Emerging+From+School+Shooting+Tragedy
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: bento December 18, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
Ok this is hard to believe... what dose it mean no one died at all fake? or part fake? or just the responses fake? This is getting to be twilight zone stuff. The batman hook was over the top but this?? It is really hard to believe they would go to this much trouble considering how they don't value human life anyway. How could they pull it all off? I am so confused??????
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 18, 2012, 04:26:58 PM

Jackson Holly's call to all rational, loving Americans:



T U R N   I N   Y O U R   G A M E S !




: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 04:27:03 PM
He might have a serious mix of emotions and it might not be acting.  He's pumping himself up with breaths, and actors do that before they go on stage, but so do people with even mild stage fright.  In that he is noticably Christian, believes in an afterlife and thinks that his daughter has gone to heaven, he is some part strangely happy.  Yet like anyone, he's sad for his loss and those around him.  His behavior is wierd to be sure, but not necessarily dishonest.

whole clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9V8gaEwPlE)
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 04:30:45 PM
He might have a serious mix of emotions and it might not be acting.  He's pumping himself up with breaths, and actors do that before they go on stage, but so do people with even mild stage fright.  In that he is noticably Christian, believes in an afterlife and thinks that his daughter has gone to heaven, he is some part strangely happy.  Yet like anyone, he's sad for his loss and those around him.  His behavior is wierd to be sure, but not necessarily dishonest.

whole clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9V8gaEwPlE)

My good buddy and his wife are strong Christians.  Their baby died earlier this year and I sure didn't see any smug smiles on their face just because they thought she was in Heaven.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Optimus December 18, 2012, 04:33:46 PM
More bad acting: Teacher fake crying, again no tears to be seen!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4u78glr1Bg
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 18, 2012, 04:34:47 PM
All I am saying Lars is that we can't blame guns, games, music,or the bullets.  The shooter pulled the trigger, not the games. 

GRANTED those types of games should NEVER be allowed into the hands of a violent or mentally ill person, but they aren't to blame.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Seeing December 18, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
He might have a serious mix of emotions and it might not be acting.  He's pumping himself up with breaths, and actors do that before they go on stage, but so do people with even mild stage fright.  In that he is noticably Christian, believes in an afterlife and thinks that his daughter has gone to heaven, he is some part strangely happy.  Yet like anyone, he's sad for his loss and those around him.  His behavior is wierd to be sure, but not necessarily dishonest.

whole clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9V8gaEwPlE)

No. That is imposible. The guy was in good humor. He was fine then pushed himself into character. I feel like puking after seeing this.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 04:41:26 PM
“The Hunger Games” And The Connecticut Shooting
http://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/hunger-games-connecticut-shooting/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 18, 2012, 04:42:02 PM
SANDY HOOK FATHER CAUGHT ACTING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w

I really wish you people would not just jump to callous assumptions, based on little clips you see.

If you've ever been through tragedy in your life, you'd know that human emotions are strange and not rational.  Faced with tragedy, people cry, scream, get angry, laugh, go into hysterics, act incredulous, etc, etc, etc.

I think a very plausible explanation for his smile and laughing is a combination of nervousness, and a numbing disbelief of the predicament he and his family are in.  I have seen it numerous times with others and have experienced it myself.  Emotions go from one to another with no seeming continuity or predicatbility.

Smiling or laughing is almost a defense mechanism our minds have to keep us from going completely off the wall in situations like this.

You can accuse him of what you want, but I believe it's very distasteful of you to do so unless you know more than that short clip shows.  The comments on the youtube site are even more distasteful.

You've expressed your opinion and I've now expressed mine.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
I really wish you people would not just jump to callous assumptions, based on little clips you see.

If you've ever been through tragedy in your life, you'd know that human emotions are strange and not rational.  Faced with tragedy, people cry, scream, get angry, laugh, go into hysterics, act incredulous, etc, etc, etc.

I think a very plausible explanation for his smile and laughing is a combination of nervousness, and a numbing disbelief of the predicament he and his family are in.  I have seen it numerous times with others and have experienced it myself.  Emotions go from one to another with no seeming continuity or predicatbility.

Smiling or laughing is almost a defense mechanism our minds have to keep us from going completely off the wall in situations like this.

You can accuse him of what you want, but I believe it's very distasteful of you to do so unless you know more than that short clip shows.  The comments on the youtube site are even more distasteful.

You've expressed your opinion and I've now expressed mine.

I would agree with you, however, it's pretty obvious from the clip that the guy about the speak looked like he was trying speak out some lines that he forgot about in this last minute. From my experiences, it's happened to me too where I would rehearse something all day to say to someone important, only to let it slip my mind at the last minute, and would have this same reaction.

Have you seen the trailer for the next "Star Trek" movie? I don't endorse this movie, but I did see the preview - it starts out with "you think your world is safe, it is an illusion...".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Seeing December 18, 2012, 04:53:54 PM
I really wish you people would not just jump to callous assumptions, based on little clips you see.

If you've ever been through tragedy in your life, you'd know that human emotions are strange and not rational.  Faced with tragedy, people cry, scream, get angry, laugh, go into hysterics, act incredulous, etc, etc, etc.

I think a very plausible explanation for his smile and laughing is a combination of nervousness, and a numbing disbelief of the predicament he and his family are in.  I have seen it numerous times with others and have experienced it myself.  Emotions go from one to another with no seeming continuity or predicatbility.

Smiling or laughing is almost a defense mechanism our minds have to keep us from going completely off the wall in situations like this.

You can accuse him of what you want, but I believe it's very distasteful of you to do so unless you know more than that short clip shows.  The comments on the youtube site are even more distasteful.

You've expressed your opinion and I've now expressed mine.

I won't insult you by saying what my reaction to your post made me feel. Your wrong. Do you have kids? There is no way I would have a smile for a very long time if my 6 year old was killed like this.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
I really wish you people would not just jump to callous assumptions, based on little clips you see.

If you've ever been through tragedy in your life, you'd know that human emotions are strange and not rational.  Faced with tragedy, people cry, scream, get angry, laugh, go into hysterics, act incredulous, etc, etc, etc.

I think a very plausible explanation for his smile and laughing is a combination of nervousness, and a numbing disbelief of the predicament he and his family are in.  I have seen it numerous times with others and have experienced it myself.  Emotions go from one to another with no seeming continuity or predicatbility.

Smiling or laughing is almost a defense mechanism our minds have to keep us from going completely off the wall in situations like this.

You can accuse him of what you want, but I believe it's very distasteful of you to do so unless you know more than that short clip shows.  The comments on the youtube site are even more distasteful.

You've expressed your opinion and I've now expressed mine.

Point taken. 

I just call 'em like I see em.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 05:08:33 PM
SANDY HOOK FATHER CAUGHT ACTING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w

Emilie Parkers obituary:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/guestbook.aspx?n=emilie-parker&pid=161723679

I think you are wrong on this one, Blowback!

Laughing can be a nervous reaction! Haven't you ever witnessed a reaction like that in others in general? If not, you have now! What would you have done if your child was that little girl?
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: SUPREMEMASTER December 18, 2012, 05:12:17 PM
No. That is imposible. The guy was in good humor. He was fine then pushed himself into character. I feel like puking after seeing this.

That's a good way to describe it.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Kilika December 18, 2012, 05:12:43 PM
Sandy Hook Principal Gives Interview After Being Shot Dead http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/sandy-hook-principle-gives-interview-after-being-shot-dead/

http://newtownbee.com/News/News/2012/12-December/2012-12-14__19-39-32/Stories+Of+Heroism+Emerging+From+School+Shooting+Tragedy

I think in the heat of the moment, they meant the Assistant Principle, who was wounded.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 05:15:35 PM
Emilie Parkers obituary:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/guestbook.aspx?n=emilie-parker&pid=161723679

I think you are wrong on this one, Blowback!

Laughing can be a nervous reaction! What would you have done if your child was that little girl?

Well, look jo.  I don't have kids, so I don't know. 

All I can tell you is nobody would see me smile for a month if someone ran over my dog, much less shot my child. 

He looks like he's acting and getting in character.  If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'm not saying no children were killed or his child isn't dead.  I'm just saying from what it looks like, he is acting and getting into character.  Everything has to be looked at and I'm perfectly happy to admit I'm wrong if I am, because the truth is more important than my ego or whatever, but this video has got me really suspicious.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 18, 2012, 05:26:01 PM
I just call 'em like I see em.

This guy smacks of some two-bit scumbag actor. Check out the actual speech he gives less than 24 hours after his “child’s” death. Most people would tell the d-bag media to take a hike. But this guy is well dressed, grandstanding along with Obama, and calling for people to have compassion to “better all of our communities in all of our cities and all of our states so that we can make everyone everywhere in this country feel safe.” He reads this off of a prepared script!

Who the hell talks like that within 24 hours of his child being murdered?

Video is here:
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/12/15/robby-parker-father-of-6-year-old-victim-emilie-parker-speaks-out-on-shooting-i-am-not-angry/

I really, really loathe the media right now. They have been caught over and over again since 9/11 hiring “witnesses” and “victims”. And I’m starting to question whether or not anybody really died in this event.

This thread shows RIP Facebook pages set up DAYS before the shooting, Diane Sawyer interviewing in a fake living room, huge differences between the narrative and police scans, and IMMEDIATE, contrived, coordinated calls for gun control from both media and government within hours of the event.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 05:32:09 PM
Well, look jo.  I don't have kids, so I don't know. 

All I can tell you is nobody would see me smile for a month if someone ran over my dog, much less shot my child. 

He looks like he's acting and getting in character.  If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'm not saying no children were killed or his child isn't dead.  I'm just saying from what it looks like, he is acting and getting into character.  Everything has to be looked at and I'm perfectly happy to admit I'm wrong if I am, because the truth is more important than my ego or whatever, but this video has got me really suspicious.

Did the other guys in the video look like they were acting?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 05:35:36 PM
Did the other guys in the video look like they were acting?

This lady sure did.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4u78glr1Bg

...but I guess you guys are right.  The main stream media would never use actors or make fake news.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isMtxbPdvzg
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 05:43:17 PM
This lady sure did.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4u78glr1Bg

...but I guess you guys are right.  The main stream media would never use actors or make fake news.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isMtxbPdvzg

I was referring to the video you started with! Did the other guys shown look like they were acting? If this was an actors guild they all would have been joking around, but they were not!

The games the media plays is a separate issue! Yes, they play all kinds of games with their viewers!
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: KazKru December 18, 2012, 05:43:50 PM
He might have a serious mix of emotions and it might not be acting.  He's pumping himself up with breaths, and actors do that before they go on stage, but so do people with even mild stage fright.  In that he is noticably Christian, believes in an afterlife and thinks that his daughter has gone to heaven, he is some part strangely happy.  Yet like anyone, he's sad for his loss and those around him.  His behavior is wierd to be sure, but not necessarily dishonest.

whole clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9V8gaEwPlE)

Agreed.  I've seen people respond to tragedy in similar ways in the past.  Emotions can run vary strange and varied, as part of the defense mechanisms of the human brain.  I don't believe it's acting.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 18, 2012, 05:46:39 PM
He looks like he's acting and getting in character. 
Exactly.  This is not just some inappropriate emotion from a grief-stricken father.  One possible 'innocent' explanation is that the media couldn't get any real victim's parent to come on, so they hired this actor to assume the roll(presumably with the real father's permission).  But that's the best spin I can put on it.  My other theories are a whole lot more sinister.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 05:54:38 PM
I hate to say it too, but having seen the clip again and again, it looked like this guy may have given off a smirk.

: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: menace December 18, 2012, 06:01:00 PM
And Youtube wont let me download it :P
From the cache :P

Anyone succeed in DLd it?
I downloaded it with no problem.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 06:01:25 PM
To me it looks like an over confidant actor with the mind set of "I'm about to rock this shit".

He walks up to the plate like Babe Ruth, calls his shot into left field, and hits the home run.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Trainwreck December 18, 2012, 06:10:53 PM
Damn...he is obviously pretending to be sad for the cameras. Pretty much what i'd expect out of a GE VP who just saved himself half his salary in alimony & got his house back.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 18, 2012, 06:17:35 PM
“The Hunger Games” And The Connecticut Shooting
http://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/hunger-games-connecticut-shooting/

QUOTE FROM THE LINK:

"This nightmare has to stop. These atrocities have to end.  We need to stand up collectively, as a planet, wake up and say we no longer wish to play these twisted games anymore. We no longer wish to live in fear. We need to shout to the Heavens, to our guides, to our angels, to God, and say: “Help us remove this darkness from our beautiful world. We are impatient for change.  Give us strength. Bring in the light. Shine your divine love upon the world. We are ready to change.”  And we will get there."

Thanks much BLOWBACK for the link ...

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 06:17:43 PM
A thought about the ID found on Adam Lanza:

"The shooter was found with an ID that bore his brother’s name, a law-enforcement source said, but there is no indication that it was stolen. A source told The Post Ryan has told investigators he last saw Adam in 2010 and that Adam is autistic."

Adam hadn't seen his brother, Ryan, for years according to this source.  How did Adam Lanza get ahold of Ryan's ID and how does law-enforcement know that it wasn't stolen?  Had Ryan, while in custody, admitted to giving Adam the ID?  Was it an old one left at their mother's house?  Either perhaps.

Then what purpose would a self-esteem challenged spree killer seeking the infamy that only hellish horror can achieve have using someone else's ID?  He sought infamy presumably for himself, and by this profile should have had his own ID on him at the very least, if not more:  personalized manifestos; angry rants; etc...

Of course, if we believe the official story, he would have been in a state of mental break-down and his actions might make very little sense.  However, this does not jive with the story of his dire methodicism and ruthless singlemindedness.  He was described as intelligent by classmates, so any notion of framing his brother with a meer ID in the light of modern science wouldn't make sense either.

I can't say if the ID is even an issue with the poor quality of the reporting comming out, but, by the story we're given so far,... its a very strange piece of the story.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Trainwreck December 18, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
A thought about the ID found on Adam Lanza:

"The shooter was found with an ID that bore his brother’s name, a law-enforcement source said, but there is no indication that it was stolen. A source told The Post Ryan has told investigators he last saw Adam in 2010 and that Adam is autistic."

Adam hadn't seen his brother, Ryan, for years according to this source.  How did Adam Lanza get ahold of Ryan's ID and how does law-enforcement know that it wasn't stolen?  Had Ryan, while in custody, admitted to giving Adam the ID?  Was it an old one left at their mother's house?  Either perhaps.

Then what purpose would a self-esteem challenged spree killer seeking the infamy that only hellish horror can achieve have using someone else's ID?  He sought infamy presumably for himself, and by this profile should have had his own ID on him at the very least, if not more:  personalized manifestos; angry rants; etc...

Of course, if we believe the official story, he would have been in a state of mental break-down and his actions might make very little sense.  However, this does not jive with the story of his dire methodicism and ruthless singlemindedness.  He was described as intelligent by classmates, so any notion of framing his brother with a meer ID in the light of modern science wouldn't make sense either.

I can't say if the ID is even an issue with the poor quality of the reporting comming out, but, by the story we're given so far,... its a very strange piece of the story.

If it was staged, it could well be a mistake on the teams part. They love making sure there are easily found ID's/passports to leave no question as to who is 'responsible'. Maybe they got them mixed up.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 06:27:16 PM
Asperger’s Is a Red Herring to Explain the Newtown Massacre
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/aspergers-is-a-red-herring-to-explain-newtown.html

Adam Lanza's mother had been increasingly concerned over her son's well-being in the weeks before the tragedy, telling a friend just a week before that he was "getting worse" and that "she was losing him," the New York Daily News reported. That report makes no mention of Asperger's syndrome, but it cites Adam's uncle who said he was taking an anti-psychotic drug called Fanapt. The Atlantic points out that several diagnoses have been bandied about in the press, including autism, Asperger's, and "personality disorder."

Fanapt is another Antipsychotic Drug:
http://www.drugs.com/fanapt.html

What is Fanapt?

Fanapt (iloperidone) is an antipsychotic medication. It works by changing the effects of chemicals in the brain.

Fanapt is used to treat schizophrenia.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 18, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
 Gut reactions are 50% foolproof.
 Emotions aren't facts. BUT I have read that this father is a big dog in GM, the circle $$. He has not visited his son since June of this year, definitely not a close relationship.. His mother was his keeper, the boy has been off the grid for 3 years, basically out of general society according to a report..
 It's been said he was seeing (head)doctors but no relevant information. Family members accounts are  positive in regards to this youngsters behavior. The mom trained him with the use of firearms, nothing wrong with that but given the finality it deserves a look see in total.
  Perhaps his dad was blown away with the whole deal, an emotional bubble or completely the opposite a father who looses his son is hard pressed to speak let alone make one. I lost my first born son, to this day I can not sit around discussing it let alone giving a speech.
  I can't watch the tube , but from what I have been reading there is definitely something wrong in this picture, a big time GM'er backslaps Obama and tells us we can be safe indicating GOV, after his sons death. Sorry didn't actually mean backslapping but close enough, kind of obvious he was rehearsed.
 Curtain up, on stage?          Just a supposition.
  
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
http://www.pharma.us.novartis.com/product/pi/pdf/fanapt.pdf
http://www.fanapt.com/index.jsp?irmasrc=FPTWB0013&usertrack.filter_applied=true&NovaId=4029462066889326174

Drug Insert on Fanapt

pg 9

5.12 Suicide

The possibility of a suicide attempt is inherent in psychotic illness, and close supervision of high-risk patients should accompany drug therapy. Prescriptions for FANAPT should be written for the smallest quantity of tablets consistent with good patient management in order to reduce the risk of overdose.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: donnay December 18, 2012, 07:07:25 PM
Kind of reminds me of this fakery:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v94WsjWKQ3U&list=PLD7E77C924240237E&index=30
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Effie Trinket December 18, 2012, 07:14:23 PM
Few problems with this notion.

1)  If he was acting, then everyone was acting.
2)  If there were multiple shooters, then there were no actors.  You can't have it both ways.

The reason is that multiple shooters (and assuming it is real) makes the most sense when it comes to the kill rate, number of people killed.  It is almost impossible to contemplate a single shooter pulling all this off.

If it was all a drill, and no one was actually killed, it would be possible to 100% verify this by independent people trying to interview or do on-foot investigation and questioning of the right people.  The magnitude of the complexity of making it all fake is pretty hard to fathom.

You would have to have fake names, that no one recognized.  you would have to have photos of people that were completely fabricated either via software or actual kids that were kidnapped sometime in the past that they knew no one would recognize, and give them fake names.  You would have to do this because people that are alive that lived in the area would know that these people were missing, or they would also know if they were alive.

If someone that was not killed saw someone that was reported to be killed, don't you think that would freak them the f*ck out and they would get word out about it somehow?  If it was all fake, then does that mean that dozens, perhaps a hundred, or hundreds of people were all threatened, intimidated with torture and death if they exposed anything that really happened?

We know for a fact that there have been things that were completely faked, and with quite a bit of elaborateness such as the Bin Laden raid.  We knew that was fake because we have known for years that Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11--so on that basis ALONE, the notion of a "raid" is 1000% immaterial and there would have never been an ACTUAL, TRUE motive for the govt. to kill him.  THis is incredibly redundantly proven true from the absolute fact that the govt. has been caught supporting who was always allegedly our "arch-enemy" "Al-Qaeda", in Libya and Syria.  This shooting however, is a completely different animal.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 07:26:02 PM
Found this in the comments on the thread about this on Reddit....can anyone else look into this?

[–]John_Omelette2000 9 points 1 hour ago
I've seen these "parents" in several TV commercials. These are Z-list actors. Does anyone have time to comb through online casting directories?

[–]knomz 11 points 1 hour ago
either source or this is conjecture.

[–]John_Omelette2000 -3 points 53 minutes ago
Papa Johns commercial.

[–]knomz 2 points 51 minutes ago
which papa johns commercial? where? point this man out!

[–]John_Omelette2000 0 points 41 minutes ago
I'm not near YouTube right now. It's the one where they're comparing their ingredients to Dominos and he's one of the guys in a lab coat.

[–]mistatroll 2 points 46 minutes ago
Bro post the f**king link.
WTF is this shit?

[–]John_Omelette2000 1 point 11 minutes ago
It's the one with "salad man" in it.


: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Letsbereal December 18, 2012, 07:30:06 PM
Few problems with this notion.

1)  If he was acting, then everyone was acting.
2)  If there were multiple shooters, then there were no actors.  You can't have it both ways.

The reason is that multiple shooters (and assuming it is real) makes the most sense when it comes to the kill rate, number of people killed.  It is almost impossible to contemplate a single shooter pulling all this off.

If it was all a drill, and no one was actually killed, it would be possible to 100% verify this by independent people trying to interview or do on-foot investigation and questioning of the right people.  The magnitude of the complexity of making it all fake is pretty hard to fathom.

You would have to have fake names, that no one recognized.  you would have to have photos of people that were completely fabricated either via software or actual kids that were kidnapped sometime in the past that they knew no one would recognize, and give them fake names.  You would have to do this because people that are alive that lived in the area would know that these people were missing, or they would also know if they were alive.

If someone that was not killed saw someone that was reported to be killed, don't you think that would freak them the f*ck out and they would get word out about it somehow?  If it was all fake, then does that mean that dozens, perhaps a hundred, or hundreds of people were all threatened, intimidated with torture and death if they exposed anything that really happened?

We know for a fact that there have been things that were completely faked, and with quite a bit of elaborateness such as the Bin Laden raid.  We knew that was fake because we have known for years that Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11--so on that basis ALONE, the notion of a "raid" is 1000% immaterial and there would have never been an ACTUAL, TRUE motive for the govt. to kill him.  THis is incredibly redundantly proven true from the absolute fact that the govt. has been caught supporting who was always allegedly our "arch-enemy" "Al-Qaeda", in Libya and Syria.  This shooting however, is a completely different animal.

Yeah, I agree with you and I don't think this shooting was fake. That doesn't mean I believe it all went like the MSM said. And who knows, maybe actors where involved to juice it up.

On todays AJS we had somebody on who lives 1 mile from the Sandy School and talked about the police getting someone from the woods, taken away in a police car, and since not being heard of?

4th Shooter Discovered? Two Not One in Woods Behind Sandy Hook Elementary School https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An1yHCzdNhQ

Sandy Hook Mass Shooting: The Camouflage Pants Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDrhhb0B5f8

Sandy Hook Elem Witness Saw 2nd Shooter in Handcuffs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKlcvDgq4Q
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
My good buddy and his wife are strong Christians.  Their baby died earlier this year and I sure didn't see any smug smiles on their face just because they thought she was in Heaven.

People in general are capable of amazing emotionality when invoking divinities or their realms during moments of extreem loss.  He was on CNN more than once if I remember, or that clip was significantly longer, because he made many references to God and heaven and visably looked both in great sorrow and some joy.  His belief that God would welcome these children could very easily be that mitigating gladness.  I can't say for sure, and can't even say for sure that he wasn't acting,... but as you say, call them as you see them.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Trainwreck December 18, 2012, 07:38:16 PM
Few problems with this notion.

1)  If he was acting, then everyone was acting.
2)  If there were multiple shooters, then there were no actors.  You can't have it both ways.

The reason is that multiple shooters (and assuming it is real) makes the most sense when it comes to the kill rate, number of people killed.  It is almost impossible to contemplate a single shooter pulling all this off.

If it was all a drill, and no one was actually killed, it would be possible to 100% verify this by independent people trying to interview or do on-foot investigation and questioning of the right people.  The magnitude of the complexity of making it all fake is pretty hard to fathom.

You would have to have fake names, that no one recognized.  you would have to have photos of people that were completely fabricated either via software or actual kids that were kidnapped sometime in the past that they knew no one would recognize, and give them fake names.  You would have to do this because people that are alive that lived in the area would know that these people were missing, or they would also know if they were alive.

If someone that was not killed saw someone that was reported to be killed, don't you think that would freak them the f*ck out and they would get word out about it somehow?  If it was all fake, then does that mean that dozens, perhaps a hundred, or hundreds of people were all threatened, intimidated with torture and death if they exposed anything that really happened?

We know for a fact that there have been things that were completely faked, and with quite a bit of elaborateness such as the Bin Laden raid.  We knew that was fake because we have known for years that Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11--so on that basis ALONE, the notion of a "raid" is 1000% immaterial and there would have never been an ACTUAL, TRUE motive for the govt. to kill him.  THis is incredibly redundantly proven true from the absolute fact that the govt. has been caught supporting who was always allegedly our "arch-enemy" "Al-Qaeda", in Libya and Syria.  This shooting however, is a completely different animal.

Don't be silly of course he could be acting and it could be an actual shooting.

IF it is staged, then it was done 1 of 2 ways. Way 1 is Lanza was programmed or 'wound up' to execute this shooting, with possible support from a black ops team. Or 2 the team does all the dirty work, brings Lanza in and puts a bullet in his head and the guns in his hand. It's possible the Dad who don't forget is a big Exec at GE Capitol, knew and volunteered his son and wife to be sacrificed(Bohemian Grove style). He's freed up from all that alimony now. In which case he'd have to act sad in this interview.



: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: America2 December 18, 2012, 07:39:13 PM
Found this in the comments on the thread about this on Reddit....can anyone else look into this?

[–]John_Omelette2000 9 points 1 hour ago
I've seen these "parents" in several TV commercials. These are Z-list actors. Does anyone have time to comb through online casting directories?

[–]knomz 11 points 1 hour ago
either source or this is conjecture.

[–]John_Omelette2000 -3 points 53 minutes ago
Papa Johns commercial.

[–]knomz 2 points 51 minutes ago
which papa johns commercial? where? point this man out!

[–]John_Omelette2000 0 points 41 minutes ago
I'm not near YouTube right now. It's the one where they're comparing their ingredients to Dominos and he's one of the guys in a lab coat.

[–]mistatroll 2 points 46 minutes ago
Bro post the f**king link.
WTF is this shit?

[–]John_Omelette2000 1 point 11 minutes ago
It's the one with "salad man" in it.




For the record, no, I don't think the shooting was fake at all. Alot like 9/11 where I don't think the destruction of the buildings were fake either(just how they pulled it off to make it look like a dozen or so jo-blo hijackers did it was fake).

But at the same time, they will, IMHO, throw in other fakeries to juice up their propaganda.(ie-witnesses to colloborate their propaganda)

Or take the election years every 4 years - the NWO does one heck of a job making these "contests" look REAL, even though their "winner" has already been decided by them months, even years in advance.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Trainwreck December 18, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
Yeah, I agree with you and I don't think this shooting was fake. That doesn't mean I believe it all went like the MSM said. And who knows, maybe actors where involved to juice it up.

On todays AJS we had somebody on who lives 1 mile from the Sandy School and talked about the police getting someone from the woods, taken away in a police car, and since not being heard of?

4th Shooter Discovered? Two Not One in Woods Behind Sandy Hook Elementary School https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An1yHCzdNhQ

Sandy Hook Mass Shooting: The Camouflage Pants Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDrhhb0B5f8

Sandy Hook Elem Witness Saw 2nd Shooter in Handcuffs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKlcvDgq4Q

I think it would be much less of a hassle to just have a team do the shooting and dump lanzas body. Easier then going through the trouble of faking it, just do it and let the story play itself out.

Plus The coverage wouldn't be so confusing if it was all fake. Obviously there are completely fakes events in the news and they generally are very clear and concise with the reporting (which in itself is usually suspicious in those)

That's not to say they don't plant a few of their people to not only watch and record (guy with camcorder recording underwear bomber anyone?) But possibly also to later provide testimony to media (harley t shirt 911 guy anyone?)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 07:48:56 PM
If it was staged, it could well be a mistake on the teams part. They love making sure there are easily found ID's/passports to leave no question as to who is 'responsible'. Maybe they got them mixed up.

Truely, could be.  Could have been intentional misdirection within the op, too.  So many possibilities are still on the table.   
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 07:56:53 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/congressional-backing-grows-gun-control-debate-220341844--politics.html

Congressional backing grows for gun control debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional gun rights supporters showed an increased willingness Tuesday to consider new legislation to control firearms in the aftermath of the Connecticut school shootings — provided it also addresses mental health issues and the impact of violent video games.
 
A former co-chairman of the Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus, Democratic Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., and 10-term House Republican Jack Kingston — a Georgia lawmaker elected with strong National Rifle Association backing — were the latest to join the call to consider gun control as part of a comprehensive, anti-violence effort next year.
 
"Put guns on the table, also put video games on the table, put mental health on the table," Kingston said.
 
But he added that nothing should be done immediately, saying, "There is a time for mourning and a time to sort it out. I look forward to sorting it out and getting past the grief stage."
 
With the nation's nerves still raw over the murders of 20 elementary school children and six teachers, White House, spokesman Jay Carney said President Barack Obama was "actively supportive" of a plan by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., to introduce legislation to reinstate an assault weapons ban. While Obama has long supported a ban, he exerted little effort to get it passed during his first term.
 
Meanwhile, the National Rifle Association, silent since the shootings, said in a statement that it "is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." There was no indication what that might entail. The group, the best-known defender of gun rights in America, scheduled a news conference for Friday.
 
On Capitol Hill, Feinstein is likely to become chairman next year of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which may get the first crack at considering firearms legislation.
 
Carney said the president also would support legislation that closes a gun show "loophole," which allows people to buy guns from private dealers without a background check. And he says Obama would be "interested in looking at" legislation to restrict high capacity ammunition clips.
 
The spokesman said Obama was heartened by growing support on Capitol Hill for a national discussion on gun violence, particularly from seemingly unlikely lawmakers. The president spoke on the phone Tuesday with West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, a conservative Democrat and avid hunter, who said after the Connecticut shootings that "everything should be on the table" in those discussions.
 
Carney sidestepped questions about whether Obama regrets not having taken stronger gun control during his first term, but he said the president does think more needs to be done.
 
"We as a nation — and he, as a member and leader of the nation — need to do more," he said.
 
Late Wednesday, the National Rifle Association, the most potent pro-gun group and one that keeps score of lawmakers' votes, explained its silence until now.
 
"The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown," the NRA statement said.
 
"Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting."
 
Among members of Congress, Thompson, the former Sportsmen's Caucus co-chairman, was named to lead a Democratic task force on gun violence. He's a hunter, a wounded Vietnam veteran and a conservative Democrat.
 
"The only experience I've had with assault weapons was the one that I was trained with when I was in the Army," he said. "I know that this is not a war on guns. Gun owners and hunters across this country have every right to own legitimate guns for legitimate purposes and ... we are not going to take law-abiding citizens 'guns away from them."
 
On Monday, NRA member Manchin, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa — senior Republican on the Judiciary Committee — said it's time for a debate that would include gun control. Reid previously had taken pro-gun positions for years.
 
Not all Republicans were willing to go as far as Grassley or Kingston, but they didn't rule out tackling gun control.
 
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told reporters, "The entire Congress is united in condemning the violence in Newtown and on the need to enforce our laws. As we continue to learn the facts, Congress will examine whether there is an appropriate and constitutional response that would better protect our citizens."
 
McConnell added that Reid controls the Senate schedule.
 
At a regular House Republican closed-door meeting Tuesday Rep. Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania, a psychologist, led a discussion on mental illness — which he described as the primary cause of mass shootings.
 
Murphy said he told colleagues that mental illness was the common link in similar tragic incidents and "we have to stop pretending it doesn't exist. We need to understand what it is that triggers changes in someone."
 
"I see it as the center of the issue. Get mental illness out of the shadows."
 
___
 
Associated Press writer Julie Pace contributed.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 08:07:04 PM
Asperger’s Is a Red Herring to Explain the Newtown Massacre
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/aspergers-is-a-red-herring-to-explain-newtown.html

Fanapt is another Antipsychotic Drug:
http://www.drugs.com/fanapt.html

http://doublecheckmd.com/EffectsDetail.do?dname=Fanapt&sid=164543&eid=2127
  More on Fanapt......


Fanapt may cause aggressive/violent behavior (frequent).

This drug may also cause the following symptoms that are related to aggressive/violent behavior:

Psychiatric side effects including restlessness, aggression, and delusion have been reported frequently. Hostility, decreased libido, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, and major depression have been reported infrequently.
Nervous system side effects including dizziness (up to 20%), somnolence (up to 15%), extrapyramidal disorder (up to 5%), tremor (3%), and lethargy (up to 3%) have been reported. Paraesthesia, psychomotor hyperactivity, restlessness, amnesia, and nystagmus have been reported infrequently. Restless legs syndrome has been reported rarely.


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Joe(WI) December 18, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
I called the image "new_freedom"(drug publik mind control center refugees), brrrr, seems I was so right :-[ Over two years now.
(http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/xsfx/new_freedom.jpg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 08:17:36 PM
So, when are they going to start banning SSRI ANTIPSYCHOTIC DRUGS?

How many more killings by young men, on these drugs, are going to be allowed to keep happening until someone BANS them?

The majority of these types of shootings are related to young men who are on these drugs.

WHERE ARE THE CALLS FROM CHUCKIE SCHUMER, DIANNE FEINSTEIN, AND ALL THE REST IN CONGRESS FOR BANNING THESE DRUGS?

WHY THE SILENCE ON THIS ISSUE? BECAUSE THE MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT TO THE DRUG INDUSTRY, THE POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS OF CONGRESSMEN, AS WELL AS THE MONEY THE MSM MAKES OFF OF THEIR ADS.

NOW THIS IS DISGUSTING!

GUNS DON'T KILL! YOUNG MEN PUT ON SSRI ANTIPSYCHOTIC DRUGS KILL!

TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT ALL YOU GUYS IN CONGRESS WHO ONLY FOCUS ON GUNS (WHICH ALL OF YOU HAVE YOURSELVES,BTW, TO PROTECT YOURSELVES.)!
 >:(
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/07/prozac-defence-stands-in-manitoba-teens-murder-case/?__lsa=5fa5dbbd
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/search/?keywords=Prozac+Seth+Ottenbreit&sortBy=-startDate&search_submit=Go&searchSubmitted=y
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 08:32:54 PM
Damn...he is obviously pretending to be sad for the cameras. Pretty much what i'd expect out of a GE VP who just saved himself half his salary in alimony & got his house back.

Emilie's dad is not the GE VP. Emilie's dad is a physician asst at the local hospital.

You have this guy mixed up with the dad of the shooter, Lanza. Lanza is the GE VP, the one with all the alimony that he no longer has to pay.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 18, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
I have to agree 110% these pyscho drugs are a mind F*&%$, but I smell an orchestratated situation, sorry guys, drugs were involved, but my feeling is there is much, much more.  The drugs can cause the effect but who controlls the subject.
 This whole thing just didn't all of sudden happen, far to much involved, top to bottom. The stateys have come close to saying any questioning can be interpreted as unlawfull, where is the bottom line.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 18, 2012, 08:42:09 PM
I have to agree 110% these pyscho drugs are a mind F*&%$, but I smell an orchestratated situation, sorry guys, drugs were involved, but my feeling is there is much, much more.  The drugs can cause the effect but who controlls the subject.

 This whole thing just didn't all of sudden happen, far to much involved, top to bottom. The stateys have come close to saying any questioning can be interpreted as unlawfull, where is the bottom line.

I agree on your next point. WHO WAS HIS HANDLER?

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 08:45:07 PM
I wonder if something like this have angered gun control advocates too? ::)

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/mark-sanchez-most-recent-football-player-receive-death-222219536--nfl.html

Mark Sanchez is the most recent football player to receive death threats via Twitter


It takes a "special" kind of repugnant punk to throw death threats at athletes via social media, and when such things happen as we all still have recent events heavy on our hearts, it's particularly disgusting. Yet, it seems as if there are "human beings" so infantile and stupid that it will actually occur to them that threatening the lives of athletes based on their negative exploits on the field is a really neat idea.
 
So it was for someone who has the Twitter handle @BraveGrancru, whose account is still somehow up as we publish this post. (Twitter, you might want to look into that). As New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez was turning the ball over five times in the Jets' 14-10 loss to the Tennessee Titans on Monday Night Football, the aforementioned moron was tweeting stuff like this:
 

DON'T COME TO PRACTICE WEDNESDAY I PROMISE YOU BULLETS EVERYWHERE .. @mark_sanchez
 

SANCHEZ BETTER HAVE ARMED SECURITY AT PRACTICE !! YOU THINK IMMA SIT HERE AND WATCH THIS BULL**** ?? TUHHH @nyjets
 

I SWARE IF I EVER SEE YOU SON U DEAD IDC YOU ARE THE WORST QB IN THE NFL YOU MEXICAN *****
 

PLEASE GIVE ME SOME TIME ON AIR TO VOICE MY FUTURE KILLING !! I HATE MARK SANCHEZ AND HE MUST GO ! @foxnews

 

"Kill yo self tonight ! Or imma do it for you Wednesday at practice @Mark_Sanchez."
 
This person then published a picture of himself on his account, with the note: TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOUR KILLA WEDNESDAY NIGHT NIGHT
 
Given this individual's clear hunger for publicity, we'll skip the step of publishing his picture. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said that NFL security has followed up with the Jets organization regarding this matter.
 
Sadly, this jerk will get his 15 minutes, According to his Twitter timeline that shouldn't even be up anymore, he's received inquiries from several members of the New York football media. We can only hope that he's making this up.
 
Sanchez isn't the first NFL player to get death threats on Twitter. San Francisco 49ers receiver Kyle Williams received several after he fumbled twio returns in the most recent NFC championship game, and Washington Redskins receiver Josh Morgan was the recipient of similar threats when a penalty called on Morgan was a key factor in Washington's 31-28 September loss to the St. Louis Rams.
 
We'll avoid the soapbox here, except to say that if you actually think this is a reasonable or right idea, there's obviously something very, very wrong with you. and we've seen what happens when such alarms go unnoticed. The NFL needs to step up, work with the appropriate authorities, and make a serious commitment to doing something proactive about this.
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: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: donnay December 18, 2012, 09:01:11 PM
Emilie Parker Fund
https://www.facebook.com/EmilieParkerFund
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 09:01:26 PM
The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own
Geoffrey Ingersoll|Dec. 18, 2012, 2:36 PM
buisnessinsider.com (http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12#ixzz2FSVfzmgj)


By now the whole country is fully embroiled in the Gun Control debate, spurred by the grisly murder of 27 people, mostly kids, at the Sandy Hook Elementary school last Friday.
 
Guns might not be the only problem though.
 
New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning).
 
Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.
 
Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp. Why wasn't it approved, you might ask?
 
There are many reasons, some of which have to do with competing entities in a competitive market.
 
The main cited reason for the rejection was that it caused severe heart problems in enough patients to cause a stir.
 
Maybe more importantly, though, Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior.
 
In fact, Fanapt was dropped by its first producer, picked up by another, initially rejected by the FDA, then later picked up and mass produced. The adverse side-effect is said to be "infrequent," but still it exists, and can't be ignored.
 
The reaction invoked by the drug in some people is reminiscent of the Jeffrey R. MacDonald case, where a Green Beret slaughtered his entire family and then fabricated a story about a marauding troop of "hopped up hippies".
 
MacDonald though, had Eskatrol in his system, a weight-loss amphetamine that's since been banned in part for its side effects of psychotic behavior and aggression.
 
These drugs are not the only ones that can cause the opposite of their desired effect. Several anti-depressant medications are also restricted to adults, for the depression they inspire in kids rather than eliminate.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Blowback December 18, 2012, 09:29:17 PM
WOW, THAT SURE IS A NICE FRIKKEN WEBSITE TO BE PUT TOGETHER IN 3 DAYS!!!!

They must have contacted a web designer just as soon as they heard the news. 
Doesn't look like a Wordpress template or anything, looks custom designed.....

http://emilieparkerfund.com/

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 09:48:34 PM
2 shotguns, 1 Henry Repeater, 1 Enfield, 1 Bushmaster XM-15, 1 Sig, 1 Glock,... most left in the car.  Did he really want to die in the school?  We haven't heard of any police officer that said he'd confronted Adam Lanza to effect Lanza's suicide.  We haven't heard that he was confronted unto death by anyone else nor did he run out of bullets.  On the contrary, he's described as bringing huge amount of ammo to the scene:

"Police said they found hundreds of unused bullets at the school, which enrolled about 450 students in kindergarten through fourth grade.

"There was a lot of ammo, a lot of clips," said state police Lt. Paul Vance. "Certainly a lot of lives were potentially saved.""
- timescall.com (http://www.timescall.com/ci_22206105/school-gunman-adam-lanza-had-hundreds-rounds-ammunition?source=most_viewed) [Saved by whom?]




Authorities establish timeline of gun purchases in Connecticut school shooting
By Michael Isikoff
NBC News - Full Article (http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/18/15997539-authorities-establish-timeline-of-gun-purchases-in-connecticut-school-shooting?lite)

NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The three guns carried by the gunman in the bloody Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting were all purchased by his mother since 2010, law enforcement sources told NBC News on Tuesday.

The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that Nancy Lanza, who friends described as a gun enthusiast, purchased the weapons legally over a three-year period, beginning in 2010 with a Bushmaster XM-15  .223-caliber semi-automatic assault-style rifle -- the weapon that authorities say 20-year-old Adam Lanza used to mow down the victims in Friday’s rampage. She then bought a 9 mm Sig Sauer pistol in 2011, followed by a 10 mm Glock pistol in January 2012. Both weapons also were in Adam Lanza’s possession during his attack on the school, and he used the latter to kill himself when police arrived on the scene, authorities say.
Adam Lanza killed his 52-year-old mother at the home they shared before driving to the school and forcing his way in. Once inside, he killed 20 children and six adults before committing suicide, authorities say.

In addition to the weapons recovered at the crime scene, including a shotgun recovered from the trunk of the car the gunman drove to the school, the Associated Press reported that authorities investigating the shooting recovered three other weapons -- a Henry repeating rifle, an Enfield rifle and a shotgun. It was not clear where those weapons were found.

Meantime, the sources said investigators have found no evidence that Adam Lanza visited area shooting ranges in the last six months.

Federal agents have been examining records at the ranges to see if Adam Lanza had been practicing his marksmanship in the months leading up to the attack, which could indicate that he had planned the massacre well in advance of carrying it out.
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: BossDude December 18, 2012, 09:56:58 PM
So they're accepting donations are they? Should ease the pain.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Trainwreck December 18, 2012, 09:59:18 PM
Emilie's dad is not the GE VP. Emilie's dad is a physician asst at the local hospital.

You have this guy mixed up with the dad of the shooter, Lanza. Lanza is the GE VP, the one with all the alimony that he no longer has to pay.

The title of the thread made me think this was the shooters Dad...this is weirder though.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 09:59:24 PM
I wonder if something like this have angered gun control advocates too? ::)

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/mark-sanchez-most-recent-football-player-receive-death-222219536--nfl.html

Mark Sanchez is the most recent football player to receive death threats via Twitter


It takes a "special" kind of repugnant punk to throw death threats at athletes via social media, and when such things happen as we all still have recent events heavy on our hearts, it's particularly disgusting. Yet, it seems as if there are "human beings" so infantile and stupid that it will actually occur to them that threatening the lives of athletes based on their negative exploits on the field is a really neat idea.
 
So it was for someone who has the Twitter handle @BraveGrancru, whose account is still somehow up as we publish this post. (Twitter, you might want to look into that). As New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez was turning the ball over five times in the Jets' 14-10 loss to the Tennessee Titans on Monday Night Football, the aforementioned moron was tweeting stuff like this:
 

DON'T COME TO PRACTICE WEDNESDAY I PROMISE YOU BULLETS EVERYWHERE .. @mark_sanchez
 

SANCHEZ BETTER HAVE ARMED SECURITY AT PRACTICE !! YOU THINK IMMA SIT HERE AND WATCH THIS BULL**** ?? TUHHH @nyjets
 

I SWARE IF I EVER SEE YOU SON U DEAD IDC YOU ARE THE WORST QB IN THE NFL YOU MEXICAN *****
 

PLEASE GIVE ME SOME TIME ON AIR TO VOICE MY FUTURE KILLING !! I HATE MARK SANCHEZ AND HE MUST GO ! @foxnews

 

"Kill yo self tonight ! Or imma do it for you Wednesday at practice @Mark_Sanchez."
 
This person then published a picture of himself on his account, with the note: TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOUR KILLA WEDNESDAY NIGHT NIGHT
 
Given this individual's clear hunger for publicity, we'll skip the step of publishing his picture. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said that NFL security has followed up with the Jets organization regarding this matter.
 
Sadly, this jerk will get his 15 minutes, According to his Twitter timeline that shouldn't even be up anymore, he's received inquiries from several members of the New York football media. We can only hope that he's making this up.
 
Sanchez isn't the first NFL player to get death threats on Twitter. San Francisco 49ers receiver Kyle Williams received several after he fumbled twio returns in the most recent NFC championship game, and Washington Redskins receiver Josh Morgan was the recipient of similar threats when a penalty called on Morgan was a key factor in Washington's 31-28 September loss to the St. Louis Rams.
 
We'll avoid the soapbox here, except to say that if you actually think this is a reasonable or right idea, there's obviously something very, very wrong with you. and we've seen what happens when such alarms go unnoticed. The NFL needs to step up, work with the appropriate authorities, and make a serious commitment to doing something proactive about this.
.

  question----  Can Twitter "Tweets" be traced?  I don't know so I am asking.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: BossDude December 18, 2012, 10:00:52 PM
The CBC here in Canada have said that he "BLASTED" his way in.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 10:04:57 PM
  question----  Can Twitter "Tweets" be traced?  I don't know so I am asking.

That's a good question, not sure - does anyone else here know?

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 18, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
The Brits won't let up - How much steel did we use to save them from the Nazi's? or the Hun in WWI?
(BBC news was talking about how American Constitution has  sovereign (royal) freedoms attached)
and how the Supreme court had upheld us having pistols.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20776784
Newtown shootings: Obama 'backs assault weapons ban'
18 December 2012

US President Barack Obama wants to reinstate an assault weapons ban in the wake of the mass killings in Newtown, Connecticut, his spokesman says.

Jay Carney said the president was "actively supportive" of a Democratic senator's plan to introduce a bill on the first day of the next Congress.

There could also be moves on ammunition and gun-sale loopholes, Mr Carney said.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 10:09:19 PM
That's a good question, not sure - does anyone else here know?



  I was just thinking.  If they can't trace the tweets,  anybody can threaten anybody they want to.  It would really creep people out.  Sanchez really is in a no mans land in NYC.  If you don't do well as a QB in a big city, millions of people can harass you on twitter.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 10:11:23 PM
Peter Lanza, Adam Lanza's Father, Was Cut Off From Son Before Sandy Hook Shooting: Report
Updated: 12/18/2012 6:04 pm EST
HuffPo w/ vid (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/18/peter-lanza-adam-lanza_n_2324979.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003)


Peter Lanza -- Adam Lanza's father -- reportedly had almost no involvement in his son's life in the years leading up to the Sandy Hook shooting.

NBC News reports that Adam had cut off communications with Peter, refusing to see him, according to a source close to the family.

Peter and Nancy Lanza split in 2001 and in 2010, Peter started dating a new woman. The source said that's when Adam stopped speaking with his dad. The father and son hadn't seen each other since then, according to the report.

On the day of the Sandy Hook massacre, Nancy Lanza was her son's first victim.

In the years leading up to that incident, Nancy pulled her son out of high school because of a disagreement with the Newtown Public School District, Nancy's sister-in-law tells ABC News.

"She wound up home-schooling him because she battled with the school district," Marsha Lanza said.

It's unclear what Nancy Lanza and the school district butted heads over.

Paula Levy, a divorce mediator who worked with the Lanza, said they both worried about caring for their son.

"The only two things I remember them saying is that she really didn't like to leave him alone, and I know they went out of their way to accommodate him," Levy said.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 10:15:29 PM
 I was just thinking.  If they can't trace the tweets,  anybody can threaten anybody they want to.  It would really creep people out.  Sanchez really is in a no mans land in NYC.  If you don't do well as a QB in a big city, millions of people can harass you on twitter.

That's true - but I'm surprised there's not much outrage by these same Tweeters over the aftermath destruction of Hurricane Sandy going on in NYC, but en yet they're using all this outrage on some professional athlete who probably doesn't care about anything but his rich bank account. And isn't Connecticut right next door to NYC? Where is all the concerns by these Tweeters over their gun rights being threatened?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 18, 2012, 10:20:33 PM
Here's a great comment I saw on GLP the other day:

"The thing that gets me about this is the timing. Each child took 3-11 bullets at close range. This takes time. Even if they are huddled in a corner, especially if they are all huddled in a corner. I can almost buy that the shock of the event kept each child paralyzed in fear, so that the shooter could orderly walk down each rows and pump each child with 3-11 bullets. Though my instincts tell me it should have been much more chaotic than that. But even that still takes a lot of time, he has had to stop and reload multiple times.

As soon as even one shot was fired and the scream to follow was heard every teacher in that school would have been on their cell to 911. This is an elementary school and there is no police response. In this day and age their is no way a call for shots fired at an elementary school isn't responded too almost immediately and a cop arriving on the scene hearing the screams doesn't go in back-up be dammed.

It just doesn't fit, he spent too much time making sure each one was dead. And why? Something is absolutely off here. From the perp's motive, what he wore, to his use of only a rifle that wasn't found on the scene but in the trunk of his car. It doesn't fit yet. Maybe it will once all the information is out but for now something is off."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 10:25:57 PM
ANSWERING MY OWN QUESTION FROM ANOTHER WEBSITE..... If the below is true, these people threatening Sanchez could be putting themselves in a lot of trouble.


http://www.hackthissite.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7933&sid=db0fa352f7364260eee83d45ae729748



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Can Tweets be tracked?
    by AZ_ on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:47 pm   
([msg=61762]see Can Tweets be tracked?[/msg])

Other than through location services on your cell phone, if you tweet from a cell phone or tablet app can it be traced back to you? Just makes me think of lulzsec, dunno if they went through any precautions or not.

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Re: Can Tweets be tracked?
    by mShred on Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:10 pm   
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Well yes. Most sites log the IP of everyone and everything that connects to it. If someone doesn't take any precautions, then the site will have your actua IP. In which case, run a whois and blah: you've got a rough idea of where they're at. If they're taking precautions, the site will still get an IP. It just won't be yours. Naw wha I meen?


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Re: Can Tweets be tracked?
    by limdis on Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:27 pm   
([msg=61765]see Re: Can Tweets be tracked?[/msg])

mShred wrote:
Well yes. Most sites log the IP of everyone and everything that connects to it.


This is very true. Which is the reason why you have to be careful about posting anything that would be damning. It is not uncommon for the police to review forums and if someone goes off about hacking something or trading child pornography or some such, it is not difficult for them to get a court order (especially if it is true) to retrieve IP logs for that user. Next step would be to contact the ISP and they will have your physical address very very quickly.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 10:32:35 PM
^^

Thank you for the info, very interesting!
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Effie Trinket December 18, 2012, 10:41:04 PM
Don't be silly of course he could be acting and it could be an actual shooting.

IF it is staged, then it was done 1 of 2 ways. Way 1 is Lanza was programmed or 'wound up' to execute this shooting, with possible support from a black ops team. Or 2 the team does all the dirty work, brings Lanza in and puts a bullet in his head and the guns in his hand. It's possible the Dad who don't forget is a big Exec at GE Capitol, knew and volunteered his son and wife to be sacrificed(Bohemian Grove style). He's freed up from all that alimony now. In which case he'd have to act sad in this interview.

Well, the thing is the guy in the video isn't Lanza's Dad.  The rest of what you said I basically thought of though.

Looks like this topic has even hit this site (which is very suprising considering most over there eat up propaganda):   http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150446053&page=1
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Dorrogeray December 18, 2012, 10:44:55 PM
Rob Dew put together nice video compilation on the Nightly News tonight that beyond all doubt prooves that there was 2nd man who was chased down in the forest, handcuffed and than sat down to the front seat in the police car. After that, he was memory holed by the media.  >:( The video implies 3rd man as well..
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-shooters-computer-badly-damaged-151437335--abc-news-topstories.html

12/17/12

Newtown Gunman's Computer Damaged, Evidence Possibly Destroyed


A computer at the Connecticut home where Newtown, Conn., school shooter Adam Lanza lived with his mother was badly damaged, perhaps smashed with a hammer, said police who hope the machine might still yield clues to the gunman's motive.
 
The computer's hard drive appeared to have been badly damaged with a hammer or screw driver, law enforcement authorities told ABC News, complicating efforts to exploit it for evidence.
 
Officials have "seized significant evidence at [Lanza's] residence," said Connecticut State Police spokesman Paul Vance, adding that the process of sifting through that much forensic evidence would be a lengthy and "painstaking process."
 
Authorities also told ABC News that the weapons used in Friday's rampage at Sandyhook Elementary School, which left dead 20 children and seven adults including Lanza's mother Nancy, were purchased by his mother between 2010 and 2012.
 
more
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 18, 2012, 11:10:07 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fear-being-committed-may-have-caused-connecticut-madman-to-snap/


    EXCLUSIVE: Fear of being committed may have caused Connecticut gunman to snap

NEWTOWN, CONN. –  The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims' families worship.

“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 18, 2012, 11:11:22 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/stylists-lanza-never-spoke-made-no-eye-contact-215310243.html

Stylists: Lanza never spoke, made no eye contact

NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) — As a teenager, Adam Lanza would come in for a haircut about every six weeks without speaking or looking at anyone and always accompanied by his mother, said stylists at a salon in the town where Lanza gunned down 27 people last week, including his mother, before killing himself.
 
He stopped coming in a few years ago, and the employees at the salon thought he had moved away, said stylist Bob Skuba.
 
The comments from him and his colleagues were among the first describing how the Lanzas interacted with each other. Investigators have found no letters or diaries that could explain the attack, one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history.
 
Cutting Adam Lanza's hair "was a very long half an hour. It was a very uncomfortable situation," stylist Diane Harty said. She said that she never heard his voice and that Nancy Lanza also hardly spoke.
 
Another stylist, Jessica Phillips, echoed their descriptions of the Lanzas and added that Nancy Lanza would give her son directions about what to do and where to go.
 
Adam would move only "when his mother told him to," Skuba said.
 
"I would say, 'Adam, come on.' He wouldn't move," Skuba said. "And his mother would have to say, 'Adam, come on, he's ready.' It was like I was invisible." He said Adam also wouldn't move from his chair after his hair was cut until his mother told him to.
 
If a stylist would ask Adam a question, Skuba said, his mother would answer.
 
"He would just be looking down at the tiles ... the whole time," Skuba said.
 
Former classmates have previously described Adam Lanza as intelligent but remote, and former high school adviser described him as anxious and shy. Several people who knew his mother have described her as a devoted parent.
 
Divorce paperwork released this week showed that Nancy Lanza had the authority to make all decisions regarding Adam's upbringing. The divorce was finalized in September 2009, when Adam Lanza was 17.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 18, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
^ ^ ^


Mind-controled zombie?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 11:32:56 PM
Here's a great comment I saw on GLP the other day:

"The thing that gets me about this is the timing. Each child took 3-11 bullets at close range. This takes time. Even if they are huddled in a corner, especially if they are all huddled in a corner. I can almost buy that the shock of the event kept each child paralyzed in fear, so that the shooter could orderly walk down each rows and pump each child with 3-11 bullets. Though my instincts tell me it should have been much more chaotic than that. But even that still takes a lot of time, he has had to stop and reload multiple times.

As soon as even one shot was fired and the scream to follow was heard every teacher in that school would have been on their cell to 911. This is an elementary school and there is no police response. In this day and age their is no way a call for shots fired at an elementary school isn't responded too almost immediately and a cop arriving on the scene hearing the screams doesn't go in back-up be dammed.

It just doesn't fit, he spent too much time making sure each one was dead. And why? Something is absolutely off here. From the perp's motive, what he wore, to his use of only a rifle that wasn't found on the scene but in the trunk of his car. It doesn't fit yet. Maybe it will once all the information is out but for now something is off."

An interesting and pithy thought.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 18, 2012, 11:35:53 PM
...holy smokes!



Time to profile white men?
My interview with MSNBC ignites a conservative media firestorm -- and exposes America's dangerous double standard
By David Sirota - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/would_the_u_s_government_profile_white_men/)
Monday, Dec 17, 2012 05:00 AM CST

Yesterday, during a cable news discussion of gun violence and the Newtown school shooting, I dared mention a taboo truism. During a conversation on MSNBC’s “Up With Chris Hayes,” I said that because most of the mass shootings in America come at the hands of white men, there would likely be political opposition to initiatives that propose to use those facts to profile the demographic group to which these killers belong. I suggested that’s the case because as opposed to people of color or, say, Muslims, white men as a subgroup are in such a privileged position in our society that they are the one group that our political system avoids demographically profiling or analytically aggregating in any real way. Indeed, unlike other demographic, white guys as a group are never thought to be an acceptable topic for any kind of critical discussion whatsoever, even when there is ample reason to open up such a discussion.

My comment was in response to U.S. Rep. James Langevin (D) floating the idea of employing the Secret Service for such profiling, and I theorized that because the profiling would inherently target white guys, the political response to such an idea might be similar to the Republican response to the 2009 Homeland Security report looking, in part, at the threat of right-wing terrorism. As you might recall, the same GOP that openly supports profiling — and demonizing — Muslims essentially claimed that the DHS report was unacceptable because its focus on white male terrorist groups allegedly stereotyped (read: offensively profiled) conservatives.


For making this point, I quickly became the day’s villain in the right-wing media. From the Daily Caller, to Fox News, to Breitbart, to Glenn Beck’s the Blaze, to all the right-wing blogs and Twitter feeds that echo those outlets’ agitprop, I was attacked for “injecting divisive racial politics” into the post-Newtown discussion (this is a particularly ironic attack coming from Breitbart – the same website that manufactured the Shirley Sherrod fiasco).

The conservative response to my statement, though, is the real news here.

Let’s review: Any honest observer should be able to admit that if the gunmen in these mass shootings mostly had, say, Muslim names or were mostly, say, African-American men, the country right now wouldn’t be confused about the causes of the violence, and wouldn’t be asking broad questions. There would probably be few queries or calls for reflection, and mostly definitive declarations blaming the bloodshed squarely on Islamic fundamentalism or black nationalism, respectively. Additionally, we would almost certainly hear demands that the government intensify the extant profiling systems already aimed at those groups.

Yet, because the the perpetrators in question in these shootings are white men and not ethnic or religious minorities, nobody is talking about demographic profiling them as a group. The discussion, instead, revolves around everything from gun control, to mental health services, to violence in entertainment — everything, that is, except trying to understanding why the composite of these killers is so similar across so many different massacres. This, even though there are plenty of reasons for that topic to be at least a part of the conversation.

Recounting the truth of these double standards is, of course, boringly mundane, which means my comment on television summarizing them is an equally boring and mundane statement of the obvious. However, as evidenced by the aggressive attempt to turn those comments into controversial headline-grabbing news over the weekend, the conservative movement has exposed its desperation — specifically, its desperation to preserve its White Victimization Mythology.

In this mythology, the white man as a single demographic subgroup can never be seen as a perpetrator and must always be portrayed as the unfairly persecuted scapegoat. In this mythology, to even reference an undeniable truth about how white privilege operates on a political level (in this case, to prevent a government profiling system of potential security threats even though such a system exists for other groups) is to be guilty of both “injecting divisive racial politics” and somehow painting one’s “opponents as racist” — even when nobody called any individual a racist.

In this mythology, in short, to mention truths about societal double standards — truths that are inconvenient or embarrassing to white people — is to be targeted for attack by the right-wing media machine.

Of course, just as I didn’t make such an argument yesterday on MSNBC, I’m not right now arguing for a system of demographically profiling white guys as a means of stopping mass murderers (that’s right, the headline at Beck’s website, the Blaze, is categorically lying by insisting I did make such an argument, when the MSNBC video proves that’s not even close to true). After all, broad demographic profiling is not only grotesquely bigoted in how it unduly stereotypes whole groups, it also doesn’t actually work as a security measure and runs the risk of becoming yet another Big Brother-ish monster (this is especially true when a lawmaker is forwarding the idea of deploying a quasi-military apparatus like the Secret Service).

Additionally, I’m not saying we should avoid the complex discussion about myriad issues (gun control, mental health, violence in Hollywood products, etc.) that we are having in the aftermath of the Connecticut tragedy. On the contrary, I believe it is good news that those nuanced conversations — rather than simplistic calls for punitive measures against a demographic group — are able to happen, and it’s particularly good news that they are persisting in the face of pro-gun extremists’ best effort to polarize the conversation.

But the point here is that those tempered and nuanced conversations are only able to happen because the demographic at the center of it all is white guys. That is the one group in America that gets to avoid being referred to in aggregate negative terms (and gets to avoid being unduly profiled by this nation’s security apparatus), which means we are defaulting to a much more dispassionate and sane conversation — one that treats the perpetrators as deranged individuals, rather than typical and thus stereotype-justifying representatives of an entire demographic.

While such fair treatment should be the norm for all citizens, the double standard at work makes clear it is still a special privilege for a select white few. That’s the issue at the heart of my comment on MSNBC — and it is a pressing problem no matter how much the conservative media machine wants to pretend it isn’t.
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: Blowback December 18, 2012, 11:36:46 PM
^ ^ ^


Mind-controled zombie?

His mother had mind control over him, I wonder if anyone else could do the same....?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Letsbereal December 18, 2012, 11:50:32 PM
Page 199 of T H E  R I S E  O F  T H E  F O U R T H  R E I C H by Jim Marrs

Much of the drug experimentation was centered at secret facilities at the Edgewood Arsenal, located on Chesapeake Bay northeast of Baltimore.

In 1955, thanks to the influx of Nazi chemists, a new drug-testing program was instituted at Edgewood.


Page 202 of T H E  R I S E  O F  T H E  F O U R T H  R E I C H by Jim Marrs

The MKULTRA program, which used patients in psychiatric hospitals, and other unwitting subjects, to develop mind- control techniques, became public knowledge in 1977, during hearings conducted by a Senate committee on intelligence chaired by Senator Frank Church.

Some of the most distinguished figures in psychiatry participated in MKULTRA, including Dr. Ewen Cameron, the man whom Allen Dulles sent to study Rudolf Hess and who later served as president of both the American and Canadian Psychiatric Associations as well as the World Psychiatric Association.

Any in-depth study of MKULTRA shows that the CIA, in addition to seeking a truth serum, also was highly interested in the ability to program individuals to act in accordance with someone else’s will.

The 1962 Frank Sinatra film The Manchurian Candidate portrayed a programmed assassin ordered to kill a ranking political figure.

This movie came out at the same time the CIA was actively working on just such a program, thanks in great part to the groundwork laid down years earlier by Nazi mind- control experts.

In the words of Kathleen Ann Sullivan, who claimed to have been part of the MKULTRA program as reported by Gordon Thomas, author of Mind Field:

“I am a survivor of the MKULTRA program. It was run by the CIA and designed to control a subject’s mind and will to the point where he or she would become an assassin.

To achieve this I was forced to undergo extensive drugging, electroshock, sensory deprivation, hypnosis, partake in pornographic films, act as a prostitute, and much else.

I finally have realized I cannot keep hiding that it has left me only a shell of life to live. In going public I want to end the fear all survivors of MKULTRA live with.”
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 18, 2012, 11:55:19 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fear-being-committed-may-have-caused-connecticut-madman-to-snap/


    EXCLUSIVE: Fear of being committed may have caused Connecticut gunman to snap

NEWTOWN, CONN. –  The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims' families worship.

“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”




Oh boy these people just don't quit.  First they said the mother was a teacher, then that was said to be an error.  Then they said she was a substitute teacher, then that was wrong.  Then they said she was a doomsday prepper.  They they said she did a lot of charitable things.  SO WHICH IS IT!?!

Just another thing I noticed, supposedly Adam drove to the school in his mother's Honda.  The woman gets $8000.00 a month in alimony and lives in a very affluent neighborhood and drives a Honda and not a Lexus or and Infinity?

This whole story from beginning to end is wonky.  Nothing gels.  

Personally, I think Adam is a patsy.  He might have been at that school, but I think there were a hit squad there and then they shot Adam.  The first reports listed 3 suspects.  I think his brother Ryan saved himself by immediately getting on Facebook and telling everyone the reports are not of him and that he was at work.  I do not know why the Lanza family was targeted, but I am not believing any of the latest reports.  The narrative has changed too many damn times.  Even the coroner said there were lots of bullets in the victims and they were military in style.

I have read that the father and step mother has disappeared since Saturday.

Here is an excellent recount of the changing of the story:

Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control
http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Official-story-spins-out-of-control
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 19, 2012, 12:17:51 AM
 Great find.

Thanks for that post and the one following.  I'll probably use your links for those on other DB's in filling out the shifting narrative and premonitory drill aspects of this matter.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Jackson Holly December 19, 2012, 12:18:38 AM
More unbelievable SANDY HOOK syncronicity:

Turns out that frame from the Dark Night Rising

showing Sandy Hook on the map was not a

throw-away, minor shot AT ALL! The map was used as

the visuals for the press package that went out just

BEFORE the movie was released!
 ???

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/tube_528_poster.jpg)

The Dark Knight Rises Viral Package


Bane isn't just sitting in his trailer, waiting to cash in on the Dark Knight Rises.
He's plotting and waiting. How do we know? Just look at this
The Dark Knight Rises viral package we got in the mail!


By Gregg Katzman     December 16, 2011

Read it:   ~~>http://www.ugo.com/movies/the-dark-knight-rises-viral-package (http://www.ugo.com/movies/the-dark-knight-rises-viral-package)


Map Key

This informative tool was created in hopes of aiding people travel around the city with ease. I doubt the person creating the map had a clue a villain would use it to find the most effective way to arrange his master plan. It looks like we'll need a whole new map key when some of these options are literally blown off the map.

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 19, 2012, 01:02:42 AM
Oh boy these people just don't quit.  First they said the mother was a teacher, then that was said to be an error.  Then they said she was a substitute teacher, then that was wrong.  Then they said she was a doomsday prepper.  They they said she did a lot of charitable things.  SO WHICH IS IT!?!

Just another thing I noticed, supposedly Adam drove to the school in his mother's Honda.  The woman gets $8000.00 a month in alimony and lives in a very affluent neighborhood and drives a Honda and not a Lexus or and Infinity?

This whole story from beginning to end is wonky.  Nothing gels.  

Personally, I think Adam is a patsy.  He might have been at that school, but I think there were a hit squad there and then they shot Adam.  The first reports listed 3 suspects.  I think his brother Ryan saved himself by immediately getting on Facebook and telling everyone the reports are not of him and that he was at work.  I do not know why the Lanza family was targeted, but I am not believing any of the latest reports.  The narrative has changed too many damn times.  Even the coroner said there were lots of bullets in the victims and they were military in style.

I have read that the father and step mother has disappeared since Saturday.

Here is an excellent recount of the changing of the story:

Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control
http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Official-story-spins-out-of-control

  Welcome to Wonkyville--Home of the Everchanging Story

  As my youngest son would say, everything here looks sketchy.

  AJ always says that cops are generally not the smartest people (by design)--we are sure seeing it here in CT.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Letsbereal December 19, 2012, 01:13:37 AM

Here is an excellent recount of the changing of the story: Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Official-story-spins-out-of-control

Good story (above) must read.

CT. COP on Sandy Hook Inconsistencies: "THINGS DON'T ADD UP" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=greuYvcMLDk

Published on Dec 18, 2012

Firearms industry expert and part-time police officer Mark S. Mann (pseudonym) lives in Connecticut, just miles from the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary. He's been following the story closely, talking to cops he knows in the area and he will be reporting for us as this story develops. Mark says there are just too many inconsistencies with the 'official' story and he says, "things don't add up." As we all now know, regardless of whether the mass murders of children and adults at Sandy Hook was a false flag operation, or the actions of a lone nut, the establishment intends to use this event to attack the Constitutional rights of law abiding Americans - they're coming after the guns. And just like Stuart Rhodes of Oath Keepers, Mark says, "We will not tolerate and abuses to our 2nd Amendment rights."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 19, 2012, 01:24:20 AM
Exclusive: Cops, detectives, FBI agents, U.S. soldiers tell Natural News they will not comply with gun confiscation orders
naturalnews.com (http://www.naturalnews.com/038391_gun_confiscation_executive_orders_cops.html#ixzz2FTaTUvmI)
Wednesday, December 19, 2012
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

(NaturalNews) In the wake of the recent Sandy Hook shooting, I reached out to my contacts in law enforcement, military and (retired) FBI over the last three days, asking three simple questions:

#1) Do you think Obama will use executive orders to demand nationwide gun confiscation?

#2) If such an order is given, will you or fellow members of your organization enforce it against the citizens? (And if so, how?)

#3) What is the solution to stopping future mass shootings?

I posed these questions to one ex-FBI agent, one retired Sheriff's deputy, two active duty city police detectives, one retired former police captain of a major U.S. city, two U.S. Army veterans and one USMC veteran, discharged several years ago after two tours in Afghanistan during which he sustained a severe personal injury. For obvious reasons, none of them wish to be identified by name, but their answers below speak to their credibility and authenticity.

Here are their answers.

...article goes on...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 19, 2012, 01:32:36 AM
Oh boy these people just don't quit.  First they said the mother was a teacher, then that was said to be an error.  Then they said she was a substitute teacher, then that was wrong.  Then they said she was a doomsday prepper.  They they said she did a lot of charitable things.  SO WHICH IS IT!?!

Just another thing I noticed, supposedly Adam drove to the school in his mother's Honda.  The woman gets $8000.00 a month in alimony and lives in a very affluent neighborhood and drives a Honda and not a Lexus or and Infinity?

This whole story from beginning to end is wonky.  Nothing gels.  

Personally, I think Adam is a patsy.  He might have been at that school, but I think there were a hit squad there and then they shot Adam.  The first reports listed 3 suspects.  I think his brother Ryan saved himself by immediately getting on Facebook and telling everyone the reports are not of him and that he was at work.  I do not know why the Lanza family was targeted, but I am not believing any of the latest reports.  The narrative has changed too many damn times.  Even the coroner said there were lots of bullets in the victims and they were military in style.

I have read that the father and step mother has disappeared since Saturday.

Here is an excellent recount of the changing of the story:

Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control
http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Official-story-spins-out-of-control

Thanks for that link as well, Donnay.  This getting more interesting by the minute.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 19, 2012, 01:37:05 AM
Oops!  I should have thanked JoforTruth and Starvosan instead of Larsonstdoc for those two links.  Read through Larsonstdoc's posts too quickly.  Sorry! :-[
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: One Revelator December 19, 2012, 01:49:25 AM
The top photo is from CNN of Nick and Laura Phelps who “don't know how they're going to explain the events to their children.” Whereas the bottom photo comes from a alleged backup Greenberg family photo album. The woman is Jennifer Greenberg Sexton. GLP and some other sites have picked up on this name.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/OMDuhon/PhelpsGreenberg_zps718ccab3.jpg)

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2083489/pg1

One interesting comment there: Since everybody is told not to talk to the media, if the media uses actors, then they’d be better able to control the narrative.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Donovan December 19, 2012, 02:08:01 AM
The top photo is from CNN of Nick and Laura Phelps who “don't know how they're going to explain the events to their children.” Whereas the bottom photo comes from a alleged backup Greenberg family photo album. The woman is Jennifer Greenberg Sexton. GLP and some other sites have picked up on this name.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/OMDuhon/PhelpsGreenberg_zps718ccab3.jpg)

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2083489/pg1

One interesting comment there: Since everybody is told not to talk to the media, if the media uses actors, then they’d be better able to control the narrative.

It makes perfect sense though.

Create a totally fake event, use actors, payout massive amounts of money to those involved, use as scapegoat to ban guns/demonize weapons, doomsday preppers, violent video games, social media, internet, etc/distract the public from a possible worldwide event on Dec 21st.


If this whole story is fake ... how much of the news in general is totally fake, then to that extent, how much do we actually even know about places that we dont actually live in.  What is the truth, and what has been a lie.

I think they fk'ed up with this one, and they are in spin/damage control mode, but I think its too late, too many are seeing past the bullshit.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Cankerworm December 19, 2012, 02:17:00 AM
look at the father of one of the shooting victims. listen to what he says and how he tries to make himself cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: hal 9000 December 19, 2012, 02:20:23 AM
I hate to go there, but it really looks like this guy is acting. No one in a situation like that, just losing a small child, smiles and jokes like that. He then goes on a moment later to get himself all emotional and into character. that is exactly what it looks like to me.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Letsbereal December 19, 2012, 04:38:58 AM
Page 263 of T H E  R I S E  O F  T H E  F O U R T H  R E I C H by Jim Marrs

Hitler and his ilk were against keeping arms in the hands of citizens, especially conquered peoples.

Hitler once declared: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms.

History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing
.

Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.”

Still, the Nazis were not content with the stringent gun laws already on the books.

In 1938, they strengthened these laws by asserting that only loyal Nazis could own weapons.

This was codified in the Nazi Weapons Law of March 18, 1938.

A group opposed to gun control, called Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Incorporate (JPFO), has made the shocking but well- supported argument that U.S. gun-control legislation is based on this Nazi law.

JPFO has hard evidence that shows that the Nazi Weapons Law (March 18, 1938) is the source of the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA ’68),” stated the group on its Web site.

“The Nazi Weapons Law of 1938 replaced a Law on Firearms and Ammunition of April 13, 1928.

The 1928 law was enacted by a center-right, freely elected German government that wanted to curb ‘gang activity,’ violent street fights between Nazi party and Communist party thugs.

All firearm owners and their firearms had to be registered. Sound familiar?

Gun control’ did not save democracy in Germany. It helped to make sure that the toughest criminals—the Nazis—prevailed.”

JPFO literature noted: “The Nazis inherited lists of firearm owners and their firearms when they ‘lawfully’ took over in March 1933.

The Nazis used these inherited registration lists to seize privately held firearms from persons who were not ‘reliable.’

Knowing exactly who owned which firearms, the Nazis had only to revoke the annual ownership permits or decline to renew them.”
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: SUPREMEMASTER December 19, 2012, 05:38:59 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249185/Connecticut-school-shooting-Did-paranoid-gun-crazed-mother-trigger-Adam-Lanzas-school-killing-spree-Friends-say-believed-world-edge-collapse.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249185/Connecticut-school-shooting-Did-paranoid-gun-crazed-mother-trigger-Adam-Lanzas-school-killing-spree-Friends-say-believed-world-edge-collapse.html)

Oringal head-line: "Did paranoid, gun-crazed mother trigger son's school killing spree? Friends say she believed world was on edge of collapse?"

New head-line: "'She would get very upset that he wouldn’t let her hug him:' Dysfunctional relationship of Sandy Hook gunman and his mother"


Quote from article:

"Friends and family portrayed Adam Lanza’s mother Nancy as a paranoid ‘survivalist’ who believed the world was on the verge of violent, economic collapse."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: All4truth December 19, 2012, 07:42:23 AM
Utah sixth grader placed .22-caliber handgun to classmate’s head after 'encouraged by his PARENTS to carry a gun after Sandy Hook’
Students said the boy told them his parents gave him the weapon to protect himself after last week's shooting
Police said the weapon was unloaded but ammunition found in his backpack



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250160/West-Kearns-Elementary-Student-gun-classmate-s-head-parents-encouraged-protection.html?ICO=most_read_module

Edited to add an interesting comment from the link above:

"CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!!!!!! I am so sick of the media's misrepresentation for the sake of sensationalism. I work at the school, and the media just seems to grab hold of little tiny snippets they assume are true and run with them wherever they want. 1) They don't know WHERE he got the gun--STOP blaming the parents 2) He ALLEGEDLY threatened this girl with it, but I personally believe he did no such thing. Things are being attributed to police quote that ARE NOT SO. 3) All you commenting on other people's "stupidity" should really do some introspection, since you seem to be so quick to believe anything you read 4) The amount of hearsay this article is based upon makes me ill. Did the child make a mistake? YES. Should there be consequences? YES. Was anyone in real danger? NO! "
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 07:53:26 AM
His mother had mind control over him, I wonder if anyone else could do the same....?

IMO, that proves he is subject to control by others (other than his mother). I would like to know who put him on the anti-psychotic drug (if that is what made him finally break), and if he was seeing a psychiatrist regularly.

His uncle said he was on Fanapt (anti-psychotic drug).
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=239389.480
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 19, 2012, 07:54:34 AM
Good comment I saw:

"I just thought of something.....

What about the so called car with the gun/s in the truck.

Is that Adam Lanza Car?

If so how come there's no recent video of him getting any gas from any gas stations, after all they do have video cams.

There's lots of highway cams..wheres the video of him driving that car????

If that is his car is there any DMV record stating its his car? Registration and etc.

How come the media not showing any driver license picture of Adam Lanza?"
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 07:56:33 AM


Is that Adam Lanza Car?



All the articles I have read said it was his mom's car!
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 08:02:49 AM
Apparently, Emilies family (Robbie and Alissa Parker) is Mormon. I believe the interview he gave was from an LDS church. Also, they are from Utah originally and taking the daughters body back to Utah for burial.

How do Mormon's view death?

I'm not convinced he is a fraud. For what purpose would a guy who has lost his daughter in such a horrific event do such and speak from a Mormon church?

There are many things not right about the story, but I think the focus should be on the shooter and his family, a possible 2nd or 3rd person involved, and the victims, not this guy. I believe this is misdirection!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 09:31:31 AM
Asperger’s Is a Red Herring to Explain the Newtown Massacre
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/aspergers-is-a-red-herring-to-explain-newtown.html

Fanapt is another Antipsychotic Drug:
http://www.drugs.com/fanapt.html


Listen to Pharmacist Ben Fuchs talk about the SSRI the recent shooter was on - FANAPT! (12-19-12 Hr 2. Will be posted shortly after show.)
http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/powerHour/archives.php
http://pharmacistben.com/

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Listen to Pharmacist Ben Fuchs talk about the SSRI the recent shooter was on - FANAPT! (12-19-12 Hr 2. Will be posted shortly after show.)
http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/powerHour/archives.php
http://pharmacistben.com/



Just because he was on psychotropic drugs doesn't mean he wasn't a patsy.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
SANDY HOOK WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!!

WHY DID NEW TOWN POLICE USE SOVIET / COMMUNIST CHINESE STYLE THREATS TOWARDS JOURNALISTS ON THE SCENE, NOT REPORT ANYTHING OTHER THEN THE CONTRADICTIONS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS 'SELLING' THE MSM?

1.) 911 calls of multiple shooters.

2,) Video footage of SECOND possible shooter pinned down in woods.

3.) THIRD possible shooter identified by evacuated student.  Possible third shooter seen in handcuffs as students were being bused to fire station.

4.) MSM / Police demonization of mother.  Conveniently she is a gun owner, prepper,home school, worried about a financial collapse and government corruption.... Conveniently she's NOT alive to defend herself as well.

5.) Patsy has brother's id who he did NOT see in two years, People who knew patsy said MSM is "making up" patsies personality.

... add your own...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 19, 2012, 11:10:17 AM
Just because he was on psychotropic drugs doesn't mean he wasn't a patsy.
^ Yup.  The SSRI drugs can also be used as a deliberate distraction, to distract from anyone thinking he didn't act alone.  Drugs are a perfect reinforcer for any "lone gunman" narrative.

Keep in mind also a few other things:

They could have easily went with the mythology that the shooting was carried out by Al-Qaeda, replete with all of the accompanying fake connections and manufactured evidence to make it seem real to people, but they chose not to.

They could have just invoked "homegrown terror" or "terrorism" in general, but they chose not to do that either.

Remember the Sikh shooting, which came right after the batman psyop--that one did invoke "domestic terrorism".

I think that they interchangeably use, & flip around these fake designations like this to make people think that there are all types of different threats to make people feel like they have no alternative whatsoever but to allow the MIC to control their lives and be in charge of their so-called security.  Do not be suprised if the next major "crisis" is wrapped up in a terror, hacker, or environmental narrative.

Flipping false flag motives around between multiple labels like "terror", vs. just "crazy", confuses people by blurring the lines between what are actually already both fake realities.  They have a 3rd fake criteria as well--manufactured environmental disasters, which serve the SAME ends as all of their other fake threats.  This is how the public will get conditioned into accepting a fully militarized society.  They are pushing forward with what they had planned all along anyways.  Their "solutions" were always intended to be implemented anyways, and they just needed false flags to virtually wipe out public opposition to further slavery.  Once people are enslaved to a certain point, it will be too late to do anything about it.  You will eventually live in a world like Terminator Salvation and Eagle Eye.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: bento December 19, 2012, 11:52:59 AM
So If the government accidentally burns many children and adults in Waco by burning them to death it is OK. But a maniac kills children in a victim disarmament zone , and "Ho god we need to take all weapons away to the murdering rednecks". Maybe people would feel better if the crazy person killed everyone accidentally. Or better yet if the government mandated the deaths we would look the other way.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 11:56:34 AM
Odd behavior from Sandy Hook Medical Examiner....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3KYBS64R8&feature=share
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 19, 2012, 12:04:44 PM
GE Peter Lanza is not to be seen or heard....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/ge-muni-bond-rigging_n_1981487.html
Ex-GE Bankers Get Prison Sentences For Rigging Muni Bonds
Posted: 10/18/2012
NEW YORK, Oct 18 (Reuters) - Three former bankers at a unit of General Electric Co were each sentenced on Thursday to several years in prison for conspiring to rig bids to invest municipal bond proceeds.

The men were convicted in May as part of a broad investigation by the U.S. Justice Department of the $3.7 trillion U.S. municipal bond market. The probe has focused on rooting out schemes to fix prices and rig bids on bond transactions, and has ensnared some of the world's largest banks.
...
GE Capital is the financial services unit of Fairfield, Connecticut-based GE.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/May/12-at-620.html

Department of Justice
 Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Friday, May 11, 2012
 
Three Former Financial Services Executives Convicted for Roles in Conspiracies Involving Investment Contracts for the Proceeds of Municipal Bonds

Dominick P. Carollo, Steven E. Goldberg and Peter S. Grimm, all former executives of General Electric Co. (GE) affiliates, were found guilty on all remaining counts of a superseding indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.   Carollo was found guilty on two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and defraud the United States, Goldberg was found guilty on four counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and defraud the United States and Grimm was found guilty on three counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and to defraud the United States. 

 The trial began on April 16, 2012.   Carollo, Goldberg and Grimm were initially indicted on July 27, 2010.   
...

Today’s convictions are part of efforts underway by President Barack Obama’s Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force. President Obama established the interagency Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force to wage an aggressive, coordinated and proactive effort to investigate and prosecute financial crimes
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 12:25:34 PM
GE Peter Lanza is not to be seen or heard....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/ge-muni-bond-rigging_n_1981487.html
Ex-GE Bankers Get Prison Sentences For Rigging Muni Bonds
Posted: 10/18/2012
NEW YORK, Oct 18 (Reuters) - Three former bankers at a unit of General Electric Co were each sentenced on Thursday to several years in prison for conspiring to rig bids to invest municipal bond proceeds.

The men were convicted in May as part of a broad investigation by the U.S. Justice Department of the $3.7 trillion U.S. municipal bond market. The probe has focused on rooting out schemes to fix prices and rig bids on bond transactions, and has ensnared some of the world's largest banks.
...
GE Capital is the financial services unit of Fairfield, Connecticut-based GE.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/May/12-at-620.html

Department of Justice
 Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Friday, May 11, 2012
 
Three Former Financial Services Executives Convicted for Roles in Conspiracies Involving Investment Contracts for the Proceeds of Municipal Bonds

Dominick P. Carollo, Steven E. Goldberg and Peter S. Grimm, all former executives of General Electric Co. (GE) affiliates, were found guilty on all remaining counts of a superseding indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.   Carollo was found guilty on two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and defraud the United States, Goldberg was found guilty on four counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and defraud the United States and Grimm was found guilty on three counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and to defraud the United States. 

 The trial began on April 16, 2012.   Carollo, Goldberg and Grimm were initially indicted on July 27, 2010.   

US v. Dominick Carollo et al, US District Court for the Southern District of New York, No. 10-cr-654
http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/f261600/261602.pdf
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 12:32:19 PM
Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20121218/naderian20121218072506597.jpg)

Days later, the Sandy Hook Massacre, the iconic slaughter of twenty small children, is now looking like a terrorist attack, not a “murder suicide.” Was “lone gunman” Adam Lanza a “patsy,” the same word Lee Harvey Oswald used to describe himself before being “silenced” in November 1963?


Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”

A “fall guy” is another word for “patsy.”

Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the “cover story,” pointed out the following, “The facts are now becoming obvious. This is another case where Israel has chosen violence and terrorism where their bullying in Washington has failed. Israel believes the US “threw them under the bus,” particularly after the recent Gaza war, allowing Israel to be humiliated in the United Nations. Their response was to stage a terror attack, targeting America in the most hideous and brutal way possible, in fact, an Israeli “signature attack,” one that butchers children, one reminiscent of the attacks that killed so many children in Gaza?”

Read More...
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: One Revelator December 19, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
This guy smacks of some two-bit scumbag actor. Check out the actual speech he gives less than 24 hours after his “child’s” death. Most people would tell the d-bag media to take a hike. But this guy is well dressed, grandstanding along with Obama, and calling for people to have compassion to “better all of our communities in all of our cities and all of our states so that we can make everyone everywhere in this country feel safe.” He reads this off of a prepared script!

Who the hell talks like that within 24 hours of his child being murdered?

Video is here:
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/12/15/robby-parker-father-of-6-year-old-victim-emilie-parker-speaks-out-on-shooting-i-am-not-angry/

I really, really loathe the media right now. They have been caught over and over again since 9/11 hiring “witnesses” and “victims”. And I’m starting to question whether or not anybody really died in this event.

This thread shows RIP Facebook pages set up DAYS before the shooting, Diane Sawyer interviewing in a fake living room, huge differences between the narrative and police scans, and IMMEDIATE, contrived, coordinated calls for gun control from both media and government within hours of the event.

When I posted this on the other thread, I was just comparing the crocodile tears press conferences of Obama and Parker. I didn’t know at the time that the “grandstanding” was quite literal.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/533513_311640395608326_259342472_n.jpg)

This is a pic of the Parker family. Emily is far right. Note the dress.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/15/article-2248823-16888C2E000005DC-413_634x421.jpg)

These are pics of Obama with Emily Parker’s siblings.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249148-168C7122000005DC-59_634x478.jpg)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249148-168C7119000005DC-503_634x632.jpg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 19, 2012, 12:45:17 PM
Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20121218/naderian20121218072506597.jpg)

Days later, the Sandy Hook Massacre, the iconic slaughter of twenty small children, is now looking like a terrorist attack, not a “murder suicide.” Was “lone gunman” Adam Lanza a “patsy,” the same word Lee Harvey Oswald used to describe himself before being “silenced” in November 1963?


Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”

A “fall guy” is another word for “patsy.”

Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the “cover story,” pointed out the following, “The facts are now becoming obvious. This is another case where Israel has chosen violence and terrorism where their bullying in Washington has failed. Israel believes the US “threw them under the bus,” particularly after the recent Gaza war, allowing Israel to be humiliated in the United Nations. Their response was to stage a terror attack, targeting America in the most hideous and brutal way possible, in fact, an Israeli “signature attack,” one that butchers children, one reminiscent of the attacks that killed so many children in Gaza?”

Read More...
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/

  Sorry, but I don't believe this story.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
  Sorry, but I don't believe this story.

I agree!

What is your purpose here, Blowback? Is it to find truth or further confuse people? Wondering!
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 12:52:31 PM
Odd behavior from Sandy Hook Medical Examiner....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3KYBS64R8&feature=share

Blowback, the video is edited! Cant you tell that? I listened to the original video and it was not like this!

This is getting ridiculous! It is hard enough to figure out what is happening without all this added garbage! What's the deal? Do you want the truth or not?

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 19, 2012, 12:55:42 PM
  Sorry, but I don't believe this story.

I agree 100% - what in the world would Israel have to gain by doing this? ???
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: bento December 19, 2012, 12:56:27 PM
You already know that any questioning now of the official story is considered a conspiracy theory(AKA terrorist). Only a matter of time before they call this a mental condition and deprive you of all your rights and maybe send you to a reeducation camp.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: America2 December 19, 2012, 12:57:59 PM
When I posted this on the other thread, I was just comparing the crocodile tears press conferences of Obama and Parker. I didn’t know at the time that the “grandstanding” was quite literal.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/533513_311640395608326_259342472_n.jpg)

This is a pic of the Parker family. Emily is far right. Note the dress.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/15/article-2248823-16888C2E000005DC-413_634x421.jpg)

These are pics of Obama with Emily Parker’s siblings.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249148-168C7122000005DC-59_634x478.jpg)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249148-168C7119000005DC-503_634x632.jpg)

Yeah, the smiling and mugging for the cameras seem to be CONTINUING...
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: larsonstdoc December 19, 2012, 01:07:42 PM


  I really can't understand this dad.  If one of my sons was murdered, I would cry NON-STOP FOR A MONTH.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 19, 2012, 01:11:55 PM
I agree 100% - what in the world would Israel have to gain by doing this? ???

  They would have nothing to gain.  The Mossad is probably the most secretive of the main intelligence agencies (CIA, Mossad, MI5, MI6). 

  I try to be very careful about reading stuff from presstv (Iranian) and debka (Israeli).
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 01:13:36 PM
Blowback, the video is edited! Cant you tell that? I listened to the original video and it was not like this!

This is getting ridiculous! It is hard enough to figure out what is happening without all this added garbage! What's the deal? Do you want the truth or not?



Post a link to the original video then.  I'm trying to get the truth, same as you.  Just pointing out the things I find....
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
Blowback,

Look at this REAL (I believe this is the first I heard of medical examiner) video of the medical examiner! Forget the edited "Made for Sheeple" version please!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYEwrM-4DyQ
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: One Revelator December 19, 2012, 01:19:14 PM
You already know that any questioning now of the official story is considered a conspiracy theory(AKA terrorist). Only a matter of time before they call this a mental condition and deprive you of all your rights and maybe send you to a reeducation camp.

In that case, they'll have to send between one and two-thirds of the US population in for reeducation. I base this estimate on the November election results.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 01:24:30 PM
Post a link to the original video then.  I'm trying to get the truth, same as you.  Just pointing out the things I find....


Blowback,

Look at this REAL (I believe this is the first I personally heard of medical examiner) video of the medical examiner! Forget the edited "Made for Sheeple" version please!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYEwrM-4DyQ
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 19, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-shooting-conspiracy-theories/60126/



Newtown Conspiracy Theories, Debunked

As with every tragedy that takes place in America these days, it didn't take long for "truthers," racists, and other fringe people to concoct conspiracy theories about the Sandy Hook massacre — myths that would be laughable if they weren't so offensive.

The most prominent concoction getting attention right now is the claim made by Press TV, the official state media outlet of Iran, that the massacre was actually the work of an Israeli death squad sent to America to punish President Obama for his lack of loyalty. Even worse, the implication is that the president would rather "take the punishment" and cover up this supposed deadly raid than defy his Jewish supporters or embarrass the state Israel. This story obviously plays on the worst fears of those who believe in secret Jewish cabals that run the world, but it's a pretty pathetic attempt at slander, even for Iran.

But that country's anti-Semitic leaders are not the only ones spreading unfounded stories about "what really happened" in Newtown. TalkingPointsMemo looks at the rumor that improbably connects the shooting to the LIBOR interest rate scandal. That started with the (true) report that the shooter's father works in finance, but morphed into the (false) rumor that he was scheduled to deliver some no doubt shocking testimony about the LIBOR debacle before the Senate banking committee. (There are no Senate hearings scheduled and the father was not being called to testify about anything.) You might remember that this exact same rumor was spread about the father of the shooter after the Aurora theater murders this summer — another incident that has gotten plenty of play among the conspiracy minded.

Yesterday, The Atlantic Wire also received a email spelling out several theories and mysteries about the case, many of them contradictory and each one more ludicrous than the next. Most revolve around the idea that the shooting was a "false flag" operation, designed to, among other things, dupe Americans into accepting a United Nations weapons treaty that will rob them of their gun rights. Who would want such a thing to pass? Depending on who you believe, it's the global banking industry, the Freemasons, and Barack Obama (who is also the anti-christ) acting on behalf of "his Illuminati Jewish handlers like Mayor Bloomberg of NY and Dianne Feinstein." Again, anti-Semitism finds a way in.

In most of the claims being passed around on numerous conspiracy websites, the shooter is merely a "patsy" meant to take the fall for a much larger operation, one involving as many as four other shooters. They were there not to kill children, but to kill the patsy in order cover their tracks. Standard operating procedure in black ops, of course.

Like many conspiracy theories, the myths of Newtown begin with a grain of truth and grow by way of a series of honest mistakes, unconfirmed rumors, and deliberate fantasy, then evolve into a kind of narrowly accepted allegation of some evil globe-spanning plot. Then there is the ideological bias that comes from those who may even buy into the official story, yet still manage to see nefarious intent wherever it follows. The idea of "one world government" encroachment via the small weapons treaty is a popular fear, but one that's been thoroughly debunked in the past. (The treaty is real, but hasn't been written yet, will never be ratified by the Senate, and has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.)

Much of the "second shooter" speculation was spurred by a man who was detained and released after being spotted in the woods outside the school. Numerous witnesses and TV stations reported seeing a man handcuffed and placed in a police car on Friday morning. After he was interviewed and released, police moved on to other matters, but the record was never fully cleared up and the event got lost in the larger story, leading many to believe the arrest was being actively suppressed. We admit it took a bit of digging to discover that others had figured out that the man in question was most likely Chris Manfredonia, the father of a Sandy Hook student, who attempted to sneak into the school after the shooting started. Police can be heard relaying his name over their radios, but few outlets managed to follow up with that detail.

All breaking crimes scenes are prone to confusion and rumor. This Sandy Hook shooting in particular was rife with false reports and misunderstandings—the most glaring being the early mis-identification of the shooter by police. The most sensational details spread quickly, but the corrections to those details rarely reach as far. For many of the "believers" attempts to correct the misinformation are merely proof of the larger cover up. This new strain of conspiracy mongering has its roots in the September 11 "truther" movement, but goes back much further than that, to the most ancient forms of racism and anti-Semitim and an almost mystical belief that there are forces beyond our control—that can also be conveniently blamed for all our troubles.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 01:29:01 PM
I agree!

What is your purpose here, Blowback? Is it to find truth or further confuse people? Wondering!

I'm not really concerned if you don't like or agree with a few links I've posted, Jo.  I see that Libor Sorcha Faal crap being spread around here too, but you don't  see me barking at other members for it.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 19, 2012, 01:30:16 PM
I'm not really concerned if you don't like or agree with a few links I've posted, Jo.  I see that Libor Sorcha Faal crap being spread around here too, but you don't  see me barking at other members for it.

The Sorcha Faal sources got exposed on this thread. Just saying.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 19, 2012, 01:31:56 PM
I knew it was going to happen. Just a matter of time. And bingo, there it is, infesting yet another thread. ::)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 01:32:32 PM

Yesterday, The Atlantic Wire also received a email spelling out several theories and mysteries about the case, many of them contradictory and each one more ludicrous than the next. Most revolve around the idea that the shooting was a "false flag" operation, designed to, among other things, dupe Americans into accepting a United Nations weapons treaty that will rob them of their gun rights. Who would want such a thing to pass? Depending on who you believe, it's the global banking industry, the Freemasons, and Barack Obama (who is also the anti-christ) acting on behalf of "his Illuminati Jewish handlers like Mayor Bloomberg of NY and Dianne Feinstein." Again, anti-Semitism finds a way in.


I like how they source my article in the paragraph.  Nowhere in my article does it talk about Freemasons, Illuminati, Jews or whatever.  And to call us anti-semites....well....InfoSalvo has a crew of like 4 people.  One of which is Jewish.....
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 01:34:05 PM
The Sorcha Faal sources got exposed on this thread. Just saying.

Yeah wasn't I the one who exposed it?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Libertarian Perspective December 19, 2012, 01:43:01 PM
To make a jump from a lot of missing pieces of information such as location of certain guns to the ever changing narrative to Israeli death squads is a bit of a stretch. Why is no one investigating ballistics, security cameras, the victim bodies and the shooters, interviewing local residents, I mean they are the ones that live there so could tell better what was happening.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 19, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
Can someone post a link to the timeline of the shootings - matricide , not much of this makes any sense
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 19, 2012, 01:44:38 PM
You posted an article from "PressTV", which is an Iranian blog source, with the title having "Israeli" as the very first word in it!

I mean, really?  ::)

http://www.presstv.com/about.html (http://www.presstv.com/about.html)

About PressTV

Press TV takes revolutionary steps as the first Iranian international news network, broadcasting in English on a round-the-clock basis.

Our global Tehran-based headquarters is staffed with outstanding Iranian and foreign media professionals.

Press TV is extensively networked with bureaus located in the world's most strategic cities.
VISION

Heeding the often neglected voices and perspectives of a great portion of the world;

Embracing and building bridges of cultural understanding;

Encouraging human beings of different nationalities, races and creeds to identify with one another;

Bringing to light untold and overlooked stories of individuals who have experienced the vitality and versatility of political and cultural divides firsthand.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 19, 2012, 02:04:25 PM
no witnesses were allowed to live except one two controlled survivor(s):

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html
Connecticut school victims were shot multiple times
By Susan Candiotti and Dana Ford, CNN
Sat December 15, 2012
...
All the victims died from gunshot wounds and were struck more than once, according to H. Wayne Carver II, chief medical examiner for the state of Connecticut. Their deaths were classified as homicides.
...
Lanza was found dead next to three guns, a semi-automatic .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle and two pistols made by Glock and Sig Sauer, a law enforcement source told CNN. All belonged to his mother

Carver, who performed autopsies on seven of the victims, said the wounds he knew about were caused by a "long weapon." Asked by a reporter whether the rifle was the primary weapon, he responded, "Yes."
...
Within minutes, 26 people had been killed with chilling efficiency,

leaving only the one wounded survivor.

The survivor, an adult, has not been named

http://abcnews.go.com/US/adult-survivors-connecticut-school-shooting-key-witnesses/story?id=17998071
Newtown Gunman Adam Lanza's Hard Drive Damaged, Evidence Possibly Destroyed
By CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27) and RUSSELL GOLDMAN (@GoldmanRussell)
Dec. 17, 2012

Authorities also revealed this morning that two adult women shot during the rampage survived and their accounts will likely be integral to the investigation.
...
Both survivors are women and are now home from the hospital after being shot, police said. Officials had previously mentioned just one adult survivor. The women have not been identified and police did not give details on their injuries.
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Both adults, Vance said, were wounded in the "lower extremities,"
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ABC News has learned that investigators have seized computers belonging to Adam Lanza from the home he shared with his mother.

Three weapons were found at the school scene and a fourth was recovered from Lanza's car. Lanza had hundreds of rounds and used multiple high-capacity magazines when he went on the rampage, according to Connecticut State Police.

[ no description  of the mothers murder scene,,, notice that there is no description how she died ? ]

http://www.infowars.com/newtown-murders-astonishing-hunger-games-coincidence-and-killers-mother-now-a-doomsday-prepper/
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In The Hunger Games, many times called a model of predictive programming, the ritual sacrifice of 23 children is carried out. Twelve districts, two children from each district; they fight in pairs and kill each other until one winner is left. 23 children are killed.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20121215/NEWS/121215007/-Officials-Gunman-mass-shooting-forced-his-way-into-Newtown-school-
Dec 15, 2012
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A law enforcement official who was not authorized to speak publicly also told USA TODAY that more weapons were located at the Newtown home where Lanza's mother, Nancy Lanza, was found dead
...
(http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/nancy-lanza.jpg) Nancy Lanza

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/15/article-2248197-16857C87000005DC-954_634x1030.jpg)

http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/entries/show/21128730-the-house-on-yogananda-street
page gone...
14 hours ago – The Lanza home 36 Yogananda Street where Nancy and Adam Lanza resided

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/ryan-lanza-photo-alleged-mass-killer-in-newtown-connecticut-facebook-page-2514304.html

The female found deceased at the secondary scene located at 36 Yogananda Street in Newtown, CT, has been positively identified as NANCY LANZA DOB: 9/6/60.  Her cause of death is multiple gunshot wounds and the death has been ruled a homicide.
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Additionally, “anyone who harasses or threatens the victims, victims’ families or witnesses of these horrific crimes, or who, in any manner interferes with the ongoing state or federal investigations will be referred for state and/or federal prosecution to the fullest extent permitted by law.  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250009/Adam-Lanzas-hard-drive-smashed-police-search-NO-mental-health-medications.html

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/18/article-2250009-168EFEE4000005DC-846_634x375.jpg)
Crime scene: Investigators have trawled the Lanza's home for evidence and taken away his smashed computer, plus cellphones and video games

'The kid knew what he was doing,' a law enforcement source told New York magazine. 'This was a planned event. There is no question about it.' Lanza left no note or letter offering a motive for the killings,
...

All of this information could be critical to determining what caused Lanza to shoot his mom, Nancy Lanza, 52, four times in the head before then driving to Sandy Hook school and carrying out his horrific murder spree.


: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Optimus December 19, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
Alex just mentioned this
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Sasha December 19, 2012, 02:55:00 PM
People in general are capable of amazing emotionality when invoking divinities or their realms during moments of extreem loss.  He was on CNN more than once if I remember, or that clip was significantly longer, because he made many references to God and heaven and visably looked both in great sorrow and some joy.  His belief that God would welcome these children could very easily be that mitigating gladness.  I can't say for sure, and can't even say for sure that he wasn't acting,... but as you say, call them as you see them.

I admit, I did not catch this at the beginning of his speech - my audio just didn't pick it up loud enough, still only barely audiable.  As he's approaching the mic, he says, "So, just read off the card?" (0:10 ish)  Someone off camera says, "Yeah, just read the card."
legitgov.org (http://www.legitgov.org/So-just-read-card-Yeah-just-read-card)


same clip as thread lead in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w)

Hard to acquitt him artifice entirely at this point.  Even if the words on the card were his, did they require approval from the authorities locally as they've said that unauthorized info about the incident will be investigated as criminal?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 03:02:27 PM
no witnesses were allowed to live except one two controlled survivor(s):

Very telling, isn't it! The clean up makes it even more suspicious! Add to that the head law enforcement guy threatening any of his law enforcement and journalists diverting from the main story afterwards, and you have another lie being told to the public and now being used for Obama's disarmament agenda.

There is no way this supposedly lone gunman, Lanza, did this by himself. NO WAY! THIS WAS A PLANNED AND CARRIED OUT OPERATION!
: (VIDEO) Sandy Hook: ‘So, just read the card?’ ‘Yeah, just read the card.’
: CaliforniaAaron December 19, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
Newtown shooting victim’s father, Robbie Parker, is seen laughing just before his on-camera interview, as he inquires about whether or not he should just ‘read the card.’ (As in… cue card?) ‘Yeah, just read the card,’ a man replies, off-camera.

http://www.amrpt.com/2012/12/19/sandy-hook-mind-blower-so-just-read-the-card-yeah-just-read-the-card/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 03:09:22 PM
SANDY HOOK WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!!

WHY DID NEW TOWN POLICE USE SOVIET / COMMUNIST CHINESE STYLE THREATS TOWARDS JOURNALISTS ON THE SCENE, NOT REPORT ANYTHING OTHER THEN THE CONTRADICTIONS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS 'SELLING' THE MSM?

1.) 911 calls of multiple shooters.

2,) Video footage of SECOND possible shooter pinned down in woods.

3.) THIRD possible shooter identified by evacuated student.  Possible third shooter seen in handcuffs as students were being bused to fire station.

4.) MSM / Police demonization of mother.  Conveniently she is a gun owner, prepper,home school, worried about a financial collapse and government corruption.... Conveniently she's NOT alive to defend herself as well.

5.) Patsy has brother's id who he did NOT see in two years, People who knew patsy said MSM is "making up" patsies personality.

... add your own...

Right now AJ is reporting that actors or parents playing the roll of actors have been caught off camera staging drama for psy-op purposes.

AJ and those of us awake are calling for investigators to go to the Sandy Hook area to expose the fraud that's going on out there.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: SUPREMEMASTER December 19, 2012, 03:09:31 PM
Alex just mentioned this

I'm glad he did.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 03:23:02 PM
Robbie Parker's LDS church news on his daughters murder:
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/63077/You-could-see-the-Savior-through-her.html

'You could see the Savior through her'

By Jason Swensen
Church News staff writer

Published: Tuesday, Dec. 18, 2012

Emilie Parker was a choice little girl with bright blue eyes and a happy face that carved lasting impressions on folks of all ages. Ogden Utah Rock Cliff Stake President David Christiansen remembers instantly recognizing divine qualities in little Emilie.

"She just had a beautiful smile and countenance," he said. "You could see the Savior through her."

President Christiansen and fellow members across the globe are grieving with millions of others in the aftermath of a Dec. 14 shooting rampage in Newtown, Conn., that left 28 dead, including six-year-old Emilie Parker. After killing his mother at their home, a gunman walked into Sandy Hook Elementary and killed 20 children and six adults before committing suicide.

Ron Morris ties ribbons to a tree as friends and well-wishers tie pink ribbons throughout an Ogden neighborhood to show support for the family of 6-year-old Emilie Parker on Monday, Dec. 17, 2012. Emilie was among the 20 children killed in the deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. Her parents, Robbie and Alyssa Parker, are from Ogden.

The tragedy has staggered a nation, including many people who live far from the site of the unimaginable crime. Emilie, her parents, Robbie and Alyssa Parker, and her two younger siblings were beloved members of President Christiansen's stake before moving to New England a few months ago.

Janny Lucas ties ribbons to a fence as friends and well-wishers tie pink ribbons throughout an Ogden neighborhood to show support for the family of 6-year-old Emilie Parker on Monday, Dec. 17, 2012. Emilie was among the 20 children killed in the deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. Her parents, Robbie and Alyssa Parker, are from Ogden.

"The Parkers are wonderful, wonderful people," he said. "They are strong in the gospel and testimonies of Jesus Christ. That's what helps us through this time."

Funeral services for Emilie Parker were scheduled for Saturday, Dec. 22, at the Rock Cliff Stake Center in Ogden. President Christiansen said the members of his stake and neighboring congregations are devastated by the slaying of Emilie and the others. Members of several Ogden wards have placed pink ribbon throughout Ogden in memory of Emilie.

President Christiansen said he hopes to share "a message of hope" during the services. "This is a struggle that will make us stronger," he told the Church News.

Little Emilie, he added, was a perfect soul who was received by the Lord and now waits for her family and friends in a holier place.

Janny Lucas ties ribbons to a fence as friends and well-wishers tie pink ribbons throughout an Ogden neighborhood to show support for the family of 6-year-old Emilie Parker on Monday, Dec. 17, 2012. Emilie was among the 20 children killed in the deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. Her parents, Robbie and Alyssa Parker, are from Ogden.

"She is safe," he said.

In a tearful press conference a day after the shooting, Emilie's father, Robbie Parker spoke of his love for his daughter and his family's testimony of the gospel.

"As the deep pain begins to settle in our hearts, we find comfort reflecting on the incredible person that Emilie was — and how many lives she was able to touch during her short time on earth," he said. "Emilie was bright, creative and loving. Emilie was always willing to try new things — other than food. She loved to use her talents to touch the lives of everyone she came in contact with."

Emilie was a skilled young artist who enjoyed drawing pictures and cards for others, he added. Last October, she crafted a special card for her grandfather, Douglas Cottle, who had died from injuries sustained in a bicycle race. The little girl then placed the card in her grandfather's casket.


Azlynn Spencer ties ribbons to a fence as friends and well-wishers tie pink ribbons throughout an Ogden neighborhood to show support for the family of 6-year-old Emilie Parker on Monday, Dec. 17, 2012. Emilie was among the 20 children killed in the deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. Her parents, Robbie and Alyssa Parker, are from Ogden.

Friends and well-wishers tie pink ribbons in an Ogden neighborhood to show support for the family of 6-year-old Emilie Parker on Monday, Dec. 17, 2012. Emilie was among the 20 children killed in the deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. Her parents, Robbie and Alyssa Parker, are from Ogden.
"She is an incredible person and I'm so blessed to be her dad," he said.

Brother Parker also offered condolences to all the families impacted by shooting. "It was a horrific tragedy, and we just want everybody to know that our hearts and our prayers go out to them. This includes the family of the shooter. I can't imagine how hard this experience must be for you, and I want you to know that, from our family, our love and our support goes out to you as well."

Jeanne Evans and Ron Morris tie ribbons to a tree to show support for the family of 6-year-old Emilie Parker on Monday, Dec. 17, 2012, in Ogden. Emilie was among the 20 children killed in the deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. Her parents, Robbie and Alyssa Parker, are from Ogden.

Jeanne Evans ties ribbons to a tree as friends and well-wishers show support for the family of 6-year-old Emilie Parker on Monday, Dec. 17, 2012, in Ogden. Emilie was among the 20 children killed in the deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. Her parents, Robbie and Alyssa Parker, are from Ogden.
The father concluded his statement with an expression of hope that the sad event might "inspire us to be better, to be more compassionate and more humble people."

jswensen@desnews.com


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: Optimus December 19, 2012, 03:30:19 PM
Father of Sandy Hook Victim Asks ‘Read the Card?’ Seconds Before Tear-jerking Press Conference
http://www.infowars.com/father-of-sandy-hook-victim-asks-read-the-card-seconds-before-tear-jerking-press-conference/

Infowars.com
December 19, 2012

As unexplained factors in the tragic Sandy Hook school shooting continue to surface, independent researchers have pointed to an odd clip where Robbie Parker, father of slain 6-year-old Emily Parker, asks if his should read off the card, and is told that he should during a press conference that took place the day after Friday’s shooting.

The Huffington Post described Parker’s heartfelt statement as “fighting back tears and struggling to catch his breath,” though he can be seen cracking a smile and brief laugh just before approaching the microphone. The full press conference can be viewed here.

Is the establishment media trying to steer the victims’ reactions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w

Statement from Alex Jones: “My deepest condolences go out to Mr. Parker and the rest of his family, as well as all the other families suffering from this tragedy. It appears that members of the media or government have given him a card and are telling him what to say as they steer reaction to this event, so this needs to be looked into.”
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Optimus December 19, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
Father of Sandy Hook Victim Asks ‘Read the Card?’ Seconds Before Tear-jerking Press Conference
http://www.infowars.com/father-of-sandy-hook-victim-asks-read-the-card-seconds-before-tear-jerking-press-conference/

Infowars.com
December 19, 2012

As unexplained factors in the tragic Sandy Hook school shooting continue to surface, independent researchers have pointed to an odd clip where Robbie Parker, father of slain 6-year-old Emily Parker, asks if his should read off the card, and is told that he should during a press conference that took place the day after Friday’s shooting.

The Huffington Post described Parker’s heartfelt statement as “fighting back tears and struggling to catch his breath,” though he can be seen cracking a smile and brief laugh just before approaching the microphone. The full press conference can be viewed here.

Is the establishment media trying to steer the victims’ reactions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w

Statement from Alex Jones: “My deepest condolences go out to Mr. Parker and the rest of his family, as well as all the other families suffering from this tragedy. It appears that members of the media or government have given him a card and are telling him what to say as they steer reaction to this event, so this needs to be looked into.”

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 19, 2012, 03:45:31 PM
Apparently Nancy Lanza never had anything to do with the school. She was never employed there.

Nancy Lanza Reportedly Wasn't a Teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary
By Connor Simpson | The Atlantic Wire – Sat, Dec 15, 2012

There are conflicting reports as to whether Nancy Lanza, the mother of suspected Newtown shooter Adam Lanza, was actually a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary. In the flurry of inaccurate information that came out yesterday, it was believed that Ms. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary. That was initially believed to be why Adam attacked the school, but now doesn't seem to be the case. 

The Wall Street Journal first cast doubt on Lanza's connection to the school. "No one has heard of her," Lillian Bittman, a former school board official, told the Journal. "Teachers don’t know her." "Relatives" told ABC News she may have volunteered there, but she wasn't a teacher. A parent told the Associated Press Lanza was a substitute, but they couldn't verify that with any records at the school. The Stanford Advocate reported the same thing. So, which is it? 

The Newtown area superintendant said Lanza was not a teacher at the school and was not in their database at all on the Today show Saturday morning. It would appear she has no major connection to the school at all. 

So why Lanza targeted the school remains unclear. NBC News' Pete Williams reported Lanza was in an altercation recently with three school officials, but it wasn't known over what. The Hartford Courant's Dave Altimari reports Lanza focused on two classrooms but there's no known connection between Lanza and any of the teachers or students in the classes. 

http://news.yahoo.com/nancy-lanza-reportedly-wasnt-teacher-sandy-hook-elementary-163928460.html
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 19, 2012, 03:46:58 PM


Well I would pose to you that if Robbie Parker was an actor, and so confident about what he was just going to carry out, he wouldn't have to ask and be told to read off the card.  If he was an actor for hire, I think he would have received his marching instructions beforehand.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 03:48:08 PM
Apparently Nancy Lanza never had anything to do with the school. She was never employed there.


Yeah, the 'officials' conveniently turned her into a home schooler.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 19, 2012, 04:08:45 PM
Why is no one investigating ballistics, security cameras, the victim bodies and the shooters, interviewing local residents.....
Exactly. 

--How many witnesses can identify the shooter as Adam Lanza? 

--Did anybody see him drive up to the school parking lot and walk to the door? 

--Were his fingerprints found on the weapons? 

--Was gunshot residue found on his hands and clothing? 

--Can all the weapons be traced back to the home Lanza lived in? 

--Can all the slugs/expended shell casings be traced back to the weapons found at the scene?


If they had this evidence, I think they would have made it public by now.  But they haven't, so I doubt it exists.




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: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 19, 2012, 04:12:59 PM
yes it doen't seem like the father Lanza - hmmm well, if they she died, does he still have to pay the alimony?

well over,...

Nancy Lanza, Newtown killer's mom, got more than $250,000 alimony a year
By Michelle Tuccitto Sullo, New Haven Register
12/17/2012 05:52:19 PM MST - denverpost.com (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_22208636/alleged-newtown-killers-mom-got-more-than-250)

When Newtown school shooter Adam Lanza's parents divorced three years ago, the settlement agreement left his mother, shooting victim Nancy Lanza, with a hefty annual alimony payment, according to court documents.
...
Nancy Lanza filed for divorce from Peter Lanza in 2008, after 27 years of marriage, citing an irretrievable breakdown of the marriage, according to a divorce judgment on file in Superior Court in Stamford.

When the divorce was finalized in September 2009, Adam Lanza was 17 years old. The couple had two sons; their other son is Ryan Lanza. In 2010, Nancy Lanza was to receive $240,000 for the year. In 2011, alimony increased to $265,000, followed by $289,800 in 2012.

By 2015, the amount was to be $298,800. From 2016 to 2023, it was to be adjusted annually for cost of living, then it was to be modified after Peter Lanza retired.

Alimony would terminate in the case of the death of either party, court documents show.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 04:17:44 PM
yes it doen't seem like the father Lanza - hmmm well, if they she died, does he still have to pay the alimony?

Was there an insurance policy out on her as well?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 04:23:58 PM
Exactly.  

--How many witnesses can identify the shooter as Adam Lanza?  

--Did anybody see him drive up to the school parking lot and walk to the door?  

--Were his fingerprints found on the weapons?  

--Was gunshot residue found on his hands and clothing?  

--Can all the weapons be traced back to the home Lanza lived in?  

--Can all the slugs/expended shell casings be traced back to the weapons found at the scene?


If they had this evidence, I think they would have made it public by now.  But they haven't, so I doubt it exists.




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The only witness to the killer was peeping through a closet hole and could ONLY see the shooter from the knees down.  It should be noted that it took 4 hrs to clear survivors from the scene.  After 4 hours the 'officials' told this adult that she had to cover her eyes when leaving the school.

Question,
was having her covering her eyes simply to keep her from being dramatized OR did the 'officials' NOT want this person to see what Lanza was wearing where that may have contradicted what she saw and what the 'officials' wanted us to know?

They will probably bulldoze the school.  That's their MO.
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: BossDude December 19, 2012, 04:32:05 PM
I don't get it. What is the Parker family's connection to obama as seen in the picture? Where was that photo of them together taken?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 19, 2012, 04:37:06 PM

--How many witnesses can identify the shooter as Adam Lanza? 


That's a very good question.  Who would have identified the body of the shooter?

I also find it interesting that they said the shooter died to a self inflicted gun shot wound to the front of the head.

I suppose "front of the head" can mean a few things, but I would think the most likely way people commit suicide with a gun is either through the temple or roof of the mouth.  Pointing a gun at your forehead is a pretty awkward angle to shoot.  I would think if I came a cross at body that had a bullet entry wound square on to the front of the face, that someone else likely pulled the trigger.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 04:44:57 PM
I don't get it. What is the Parker family's connection to obama as seen in the picture? Where was that photo of them together taken?

It was taken when Obama visited the families a day or so later! Two of those children are the siblings of Emilie, the little girl killed!

: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 04:48:37 PM
Look at these comments on the video, from people who know the Mormon faith - I still think this thread is misinterpreting the video and pictures associated with Robbie Parker!
http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,734507

I know Robbie's family. He's a good guy. Who are you to criticize his statements? His 6 yr old daughter was shot in the head at point blank range yesterday. Did you know the parents of the victims had to identify the bodies of their murdered loved ones? He is in total shock. His mind is still trying to make sense of everything. His father-in-law died two months ago due to a freak cycling accident. his family has been through hell. I wonder what your statements would be like in a similar situation? Who cares what his religion is, or that he's Mormon, or how his statements seemed off.

The ignorance and insensitivity on this board astound me sometimes. Like many others on this board, I was once LDS, and left the church as I believe it is not what it proclaims to be. However, I believe that certain situations like this are not ideal for scoring cheap points or observations on how "weird" or "out of touch" Mormons are.

-----

I had pretty mixed feelings when I watched this video. I realized immediately that he was mormon, and that he was giving a talk. I know that part of being mormon is rehearsing, over and over, a pretty specific way of responding to life stressors. In moments of strain, we do what we know. I can't blame him, can't be upset with him. I feel terrible for him. My daughter is exactly the same age as the victims. I would react pretty automatically, which is exactly what this sounds like.

Do I personally react to this kind of "talk?" Sure. I find it gut-churning and unpleasant. I remember that my feelings were usually a lot more mixed and complex that mormon culture typically tolerates. I remember that the inability to express any kind of thought or feeing that was not tolerated/sanctioned was painfully oppressive, and often caused me and others to cope in fairly distorted ways.

So, I feel bad for him that his daughter was horrifically slaughtered. And I feel really bad for him that he will only have a very small number of acceptable ways for him to feel or express himself. And I feel really lucky that my daughter is asleep in her bed and is fine, and that I can have complicated feelings, and it not cause me any problems.

One of the reasons to leave was just to be able to feel and think as I needed to. To just be human. My hope for this man and his family is that they'll be able to do this (even while I strongly doubt it). I cringe, understanding that grief is a process and that releasing a definitive statement about your feelings on something like this just a day or two after is happens can put you in an interesting position as your feelings naturally change over time.

But, at the end of the day, he's just a dad who's baby girl was murdered. And I'm not (thank god)

Even Alex made a comment under the article below, that more investigation is needed! Also, this guy should not be the main focus; the shooters family should be!
http://www.infowars.com/father-of-sandy-hook-victim-asks-read-the-card-seconds-before-tear-jerking-press-conference/
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: empire December 19, 2012, 04:52:47 PM
Man, I thought Alex and co. were overstating things.

I don't know what the **** went down... but I tell you this much -- it was quiote strange.

One minute the guy is laughing, and then he goes into prep mode like actors do when getting into character.

Look, maybe the moment suddenly hit him again, maybe it all suddenly came flooding back, it happens.
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: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 04:55:14 PM
Man, I thought Alex and co. were overstating things.

I don't know what the **** went down... but I tell you this much -- it was quiote strange.

One minute the guy is laughing, and then he goes into prep mode like actors do when getting into character.

Look, maybe the moment suddenly hit him again, maybe it all suddenly came flooding back, it happens.


Don't most get prepared before going live on camera to the world? Going on camera can be intimidating in itself, and pair that with his tragedy and well, you think about how you might react!
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: egypt December 19, 2012, 05:07:50 PM
They sacrifice their young to a greater cause, or even just sacrifice the young.    Plus, they do not have emotions...

I would have been in a huge abyss of a black hole in my being, unable to speak, or stop crying had my 6 or 7-year-old child been murdered in school.

Get dressed?  Go talk to people?  Have a laugh and even be coherent enough to ask what to do or read?  I don't think so until probably at least a year later,  not the next day.

This man needs intense observation and investigation.  It seems he is a part of it all...

love, e

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 05:11:32 PM
I'm not really concerned if you don't like or agree with a few links I've posted, Jo.  I see that Libor Sorcha Faal crap being spread around here too, but you don't  see me barking at other members for it.

To get to the truth we must all discredit propaganda no matter where it is happening! This applies to all of us.

I agree with you on Sorcha Faal. That guy is pure propaganda!

I bark at untruths and propagandists! It's about the truth! That's what I hope we all want! That is not easy to find, but keep looking!

If you think something I find is untrue, and can give me links to inform me, I welcome good info! It's about finding the truth as best we can!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 19, 2012, 05:54:57 PM
Someone on another forum posed the following questions/comments:


"If they are all actors, such as the teacher Kaitlin Roig, then why doesn't anybody in that community step forward and say the networks are using an actress? Why aren't dozens of people saying 'um that lady isn't Mrs Roig'? Don't tell me the FBI is rolling into town and threatening all these people to keep quiet, just LOL. Give me a sensible explanation.

Also if the little girl Emily is alive and well and was never at the school that day, surely the registers would have shown her not in school that day?
If Emilie's dad was an actor, why is the town not like "yo wtf?""

http://intellectualrevolutionary.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/adam-lanza.jpg?w=614&h=610


1) Who says he was clumsy?

2) He wasn't autistic, he had Aspergers Syndrome, which is related to autism but less severe.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/adam-lanza-autism-aspergers-syndrome-reports-friend-of-nancy-lanza-says-adam-was-withdrawn (http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/adam-lanza-autism-aspergers-syndrome-reports-friend-of-nancy-lanza-says-adam-was-withdrawn)

3) Who said he'd never fired a gun before? Lanza's mother took him to firing ranges often.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/connecticut-school-shooting-adam-lanza-mother-visited-gun/story?id=17992396 (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/connecticut-school-shooting-adam-lanza-mother-visited-gun/story?id=17992396)

4) How did he get into a locked school? Guns are pretty good at getting through glass doors

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sandy-hook-school-shooting-20121215,0,5203637.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sandy-hook-school-shooting-20121215,0,5203637.story)

5) Who says he had "dead-on" accuracy? Besides, he was shooting small children with a rifle at close range, he wouldn't need to be a champion marksman.

6) The initial reports that Nancy Lanza was a teacher at the school were incorrect, that's why no one at the school had heard of her.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-lanza-family-profile/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-lanza-family-profile/index.html)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 19, 2012, 06:07:18 PM
Someone on another forum posed the following questions/comments:


"If they are all actors, such as the teacher Kaitlin Roig, then why doesn't anybody in that community step forward and say the networks are using an actress? Why aren't dozens of people saying 'um that lady isn't Mrs Roig'? Don't tell me the FBI is rolling into town and threatening all these people to keep quiet, just LOL. Give me a sensible explanation.

Also if the little girl Emily is alive and well and was never at the school that day, surely the registers would have shown her not in school that day?
If Emilie's dad was an actor, why is the town not like "yo wtf?""

http://intellectualrevolutionary.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/adam-lanza.jpg?w=614&h=610


  I agree.  This stuff they are putting out there just doesn't make sense.  

  Granted that one dad smirking and smiling after his daughter died doesn't make sense either.

  28,000 people live in Newtown.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Letsbereal December 19, 2012, 06:28:37 PM
NDAA 2013 - Indefinite detention without trial is back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krABvElQQ1o

If you have been following the National Defense Authorization Act, it is no secret that the issue is anything but a roller coaster ride. Last month the Senate approved an amendment that would prevent the military from detaining American citizens suspected of terrorism without a trial, but on Tuesday lawmakers dropped that same ban. Tangerine Bolen, founder and director for RevolutionTruth, breaks down what the NDAA could mean for Americans.

Obama Sets January Deadline for Gun Proposals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcyTWOYXR6o

I bet ya the sob is going to sign it into law while everybody else is partying with old and new year, just like when he signed the NDAA act, or maybe even during X-maz time.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 19, 2012, 06:49:34 PM
Asperger’s Is a Red Herring to Explain the Newtown Massacre
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/aspergers-is-a-red-herring-to-explain-newtown.html

Fanapt is another Antipsychotic Drug:
http://www.drugs.com/fanapt.html


The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own (Also has a video that explains the 1994 Ban)
http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: menace December 19, 2012, 06:56:06 PM
 UN Small Arms Treaty Passes While Media Sleeps

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/breaking-un-small-arms-treaty-passes-while-media-sleeps/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 19, 2012, 07:05:21 PM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m219/tnleggs59/sacrif_dees2-1.jpg)
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Ambriel December 19, 2012, 07:11:58 PM
Media Manipulation: Father of Sandy Hook Victim Asks ‘Read the Card?’ Seconds Before Press Conference

http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/20/media-manipulation-father-of-sandy-hook-victim-asks-read-the-card-seconds-before-press-conference/

By Alex Thomas
theintelhub.com
December 19, 2012

In the week following the horrific mass shooting that left 20 children dead at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, independent minded journalists and researchers have continued to search for answers to what has become one of the worst mass shootings in American history.

From reports of multiples shooters, to the fact that the corporate media, in conjunction with the government, has launched a full-scale attack on the 2nd amendment in response to the shootings, the facts behind the shooting have led many to believe that this was some sort of black ops type false flag initiated and carried out with the long-term goal of disarming the American people.

Now, a startling video is making the rounds that seems to indicate that either there was some sort of media or government manipulation at a press conference for the victims families or, although less likely, actors are being used in what would be one of the most blatant false flags in recent history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w
In the video, Robbie Parker, the father of slain 6-year-old Emily Parker, can be seen smiling and laughing before asking someone if he should, “read off the card.”

What is unknown at this time is what the above clip actually means although it does seem very suspicious and, at the very least, shows some sort of media manipulation.

In a report published on the Huffinton Post, the father was described as,” Fighting back tears and struggling to catch his breath,” during a the heart felt press conference.

    Robbie Parker’s daughter Emilie was among the 20 children who died Friday in the one of the worst attacks on schoolchildren in U.S. history. He was one of the first parents to speak publicly about their loss.

    “She was beautiful. She was blond. She was always smiling,” he said.

    Parker spoke to reporters not long after police released the names and ages of the victims, a simple document that told a horrifying story of loss.

An article published along side the above clip on Infowars.com noted how odd it actually was.

    As unexplained factors in the tragic Sandy Hook school shooting continue to surface, independent researchers have pointed to an odd clip where Robbie Parker, father of slain 6-year-old Emilie Parker, asks if he should read off of a card, and is told that he should, during a press conference that took place the day after Friday’s shooting.

    Is the establishment media trying to steer the victims’ reactions?

As of now there is simply no way to conclusively tell what was exactly going on during the press conference and it is very possible that the corporate media was simply coaching a grieving father who was dealing with the horror of losing his child in a way many of us couldn’t begin to understand without suffering a similar lose ourselves.

With that being said, something odd definitely took place.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Libertarian Perspective December 19, 2012, 07:21:01 PM
I looked at the whole text, I think this is a summary of the earlier conference from 27th August until 7th September. I have looked at the whole UN site to try and find if this is recent this day or yesterday and I think it is the old one. As far as I know the next conference addressing the issue will be in March 2013, so get ready to address those issues and get those pro gun pro liberty talking points. Especially since now, Obama and the anti-gunners in the USA are going to put massive pressure for the USA to sign after their manufactured false flag shooting.

I think this is used to scare us even more...."see USA gun owners they have already passed the UN conference it is only time before UN helmets come for your guns, when it is clear that nothing of the sort has happened.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 07:37:29 PM
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-shooting-conspiracy-theories/60126/



Newtown Conspiracy Theories, Debunked



This point needs to be reiterated.

Jon Rappaport made an observation WE need to become OUR talking point in the info war.

When the NWO MSM goes into 'agenda' mode, they follow a strict script.   In the case of the school shooting and the disarmament agenda, shock, shock, shock and heartbreaking stories are only allowed to be broadcast by the MSM before the 'demonization' process begins, forwarding their agenda.  In this case, disarming the American people via a hyped up tragedy.

It is forbidden that ANY outrage to the pure crapola the officials are telling the media or, ANY questions 'outside' the 'official' versions of the events be spoken or asked by the people in the area of the tragedy to be broadcast far and wide.   We certainly can't give the sheep any suggestions they should be asking even basic questions.

We saw this with regards to the OK city bombing where MANY people with serious questions and outrage were outright censored from the national news. Flight 800 where the FBI was so PO'ed at the press for their reporters airing all the witness accounts of the 'FLARE' hitting the plane they held a 'special' press conference warning the press if they keep reporting those FACTS  they would be in some sort of trouble.  The dancing Israelis on 911 who were busted by NJ police for having been scene BEFORE the attacks video taping the event and then let go, and 10,000 other obvious questions.  The many witnesses at the BOTCHED NWO Aroura shooting where it was reported multiple shooters were without question seen.   Now this shooting with so many holes in the 'official' version they were happening in 'real time'.  So, the media equally harps that asking questions equals 'bad person'.

So, of course the MSM is going to float out an absurd article that the Jews (note they didn't say Arabs with box cutters  :D), Masons, the Pope and so on and so forth are what the so called C.T's  (truth tellers) are obsessed with.  

Again, the talking point for these non sense articles is to simply point out that they are the feeble attempts by MSM to distract everyone from asking ANY questions outside the official box and that they simply do not work any longer.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Ambriel December 19, 2012, 07:43:51 PM
Same as other post.

Any time they want to stop people from thinking for themselves and maybe look at alternative angles of things they play the "Conspiracy Theory" card.

This shit is getting as bad as the race card.

It's like when they call us that anything that we say is automatically voided out, debunked.

God forbid that anyone actually investigates and comes to their own conclusion on anything.

Don't believe them,  They are conspiracy theorists.  just go back to drinking your kool-aid.  we are the media, we would never lie to you, you can trust us and your govt.


GET THE f**k OUT OF HERE!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Same as other post.

Any time they want to stop people from thinking for themselves and maybe look at alternative angles of things they play the "Conspiracy Theory" card.

This shit is getting as bad as the race card.

It's like when they call us that anything that we say is automatically voided out, debunked.

God forbid that anyone actually investigates and comes to their own conclusion on anything.

Don't believe them,  They are conspiracy theorists.  just go back to drinking your kool-aid.  we are the media, we would never lie to you, you can trust us and your govt.


GET THE f**k OUT OF HERE!

Yeah, and (God forbid that anyone actually investigates and comes to their own conclusion on anything.) that should be the auto response to this warn out card every time.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 07:58:12 PM
Pentagon's PSYOPs: Information Warfare Using Aggressive Psychological Operations
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=22311.0

Is NORTHCOM CONPLAN 2501-05 Created To Support False Flage Ops?
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=229451.0

Urban Sunrise?

The globalists have made it clear that when a (FF) terror attack occurs they will not only shut down the web BUT, shut down ALL communications.  I believe that there is NO question this particular CONPLAN addresses this very situation.

What's most disturbing about this particular CONPLAN is the use of "psychological operatives' working WITH civil 'authorities' a.k.a. FEMA  ANNEX C, OPERATIONS TAB D C-3-D1 if you want to read it for yourself.

I've been asking myself... Why is it so important to have PSYOP operatives working with FEAM?

The ONLY conclusion I could come to is once the globalists have TOTAL control of communications they most certainly will engage in PSYOP operations.  I think it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that the public be made aware of this so they KNOW that ANY info that the government is putting out is, WITHOUT QUESTION, all apart of a PLANNED PSYOP.

Are the CLASSIFIED Psy-op documents the ones that deal with working with local LAW AUTHORITIES in psyop operations?

With the violation of constitution rights for 'security' to justify the so-called 'Threat Fusion Centers' why did their Stasi system fail?

They certainly do NOT need any more more funding or power it's already unlimited.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jerryweaver December 19, 2012, 07:58:39 PM
Someone on another forum posed the following questions/comments:


"If they are all actors, such as the teacher Kaitlin Roig, then why doesn't anybody in that community step forward and say the networks are using an actress? Why aren't dozens of people saying 'um that lady isn't Mrs Roig'? Don't tell me the FBI is rolling into town and threatening all these people to keep quiet, just LOL. Give me a sensible explanation.

Also if the little girl Emily is alive and well and was never at the school that day, surely the registers would have shown her not in school that day?
If Emilie's dad was an actor, why is the town not like "yo wtf?""

http://intellectualrevolutionary.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/adam-lanza.jpg?w=614&h=610

Well these attacks have been planned before and exposed as GOV Operations.

(http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2011/09/xlarge_northwoods.png)

Operation Northwoods, the 1960s government plan to fake terrorist attacks on the U.S.


At the core of the 9/11 Truther movement is the idea that the government staged the attacks to drum up support for a war. So much Truther evidence is laughable that it's easy to dismiss the idea, but there exists a chilling reminder that the U.S. military was once all-too-willing to deceive and attack its own citizens for political reasons. That was the goal of Operation Northwoods.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 08:01:18 PM
You posted an article from "PressTV", which is an Iranian blog source, with the title having "Israeli" as the very first word in it!

I mean, really?  ::)

http://www.presstv.com/about.html (http://www.presstv.com/about.html)


Yes that has the word Israeli in it.  

To bad that wasn't what I was talking about.  I was talking about how the Atlantic Wire sourced my article and claimed it was anti-semite.... not the Press TV article.  
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 19, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/psych-meds-linked-to-90-of-school-shootings/


              PSYCH MEDS LINKED TO 90% OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 19, 2012, 08:57:03 PM
Someone on another forum posed the following questions/comments:


"If they are all actors, such as the teacher Kaitlin Roig, then why doesn't anybody in that community step forward and say the networks are using an actress? Why aren't dozens of people saying 'um that lady isn't Mrs Roig'? Don't tell me the FBI is rolling into town and threatening all these people to keep quiet, just LOL. Give me a sensible explanation.

Also if the little girl Emily is alive and well and was never at the school that day, surely the registers would have shown her not in school that day?
If Emilie's dad was an actor, why is the town not like "yo wtf?""

http://intellectualrevolutionary.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/adam-lanza.jpg?w=614&h=610


I’ve been thinking about this. How could nobody notice?

They’re not all actors. It’s not all or nothing. The use of actors as on-the-street witnesses might not be noticed due to the eroded sense of community in the US at the moment.

How many people know their neighbors? With the advent of technology, less people tend to actually have a face-to-face conversation these days. Many have chosen to keep to themselves. How many times have we seen young people sitting around a restaurant table all texting on their cell phones?

How many people know all the other people in the workplace? Hospitals, schools, and businesses are compartmentalized more or less depending on size. The bigger the organization, the less likely people would know the people in the next room.

Could the media, with the help of the best and brightest psychologists and sociologists take advantage of this? I would say yes. Would they do so? I would say most definitely.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: kerrymti December 19, 2012, 09:08:56 PM
Apparently, Emilies family (Robbie and Alissa Parker) is Mormon. I believe the interview he gave was from an LDS church. Also, they are from Utah originally and taking the daughters body back to Utah for burial.

How do Mormon's view death?

I'm not convinced he is a fraud. For what purpose would a guy who has lost his daughter in such a horrific event do such and speak from a Mormon church?

There are many things not right about the story, but I think the focus should be on the shooter and his family, a possible 2nd or 3rd person involved, and the victims, not this guy. I believe this is misdirection!

+100
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 19, 2012, 09:10:57 PM
I’ve been thinking about this. How could nobody notice?

They’re not all actors. It’s not all or nothing. The use of actors as on-the-street witnesses might not be noticed due to the eroded sense of community in the US at the moment.
...

If you go back to the colorado shooting thread (and there is a thread on "actors" as victim interviews somewhere too) some of the "survivors" are interviewed and were shown to be in fact "actors".

It also reminds me of the pentagon 9/11 "witnesses" . 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 19, 2012, 09:23:21 PM
How many people know their neighbors? With the advent of technology, less people tend to actually have a face-to-face conversation these days. Many have chosen to keep to themselves. How many times have we seen young people sitting around a restaurant table all texting on their cell phones?

When I was in the church eating room after the service on Sunday, I noticed this with one of the young girls in the room - she spent the entire time texting her friend, that she rarely ever lifted up her eyes from her iPhone. And at one point, when she was coming out of the kitchen, she was sliding on the floor, and I asked her if the floor was wet and slippery. Initially, she gave me a dazed look, as if she had no idea what I said to her(and to some extent an annoyed look b/c I interrupted her).

Yeah, when I was growing up as a kid, the only thing I had, technology wise, was a commodore 64 PC, and a regular-old black and white tv. But whenever we had company around, my parents always made sure I showed respect to the guests around me.

Fast-forward to the present day - it's as if the average normal teenager is immersed in all of these "goodies", and even their parents have no qualms with it, neither surrounding adults think much of it. It's not just the technology goodies that have exploded in abundance, but alot of other stuff as well, in particular anti-family values in the media. Remember the popular hit tv series "Seinfeld" that ran throughout the 90's? They made alot of rotten anti-social behavior look comical - and this was pretty much the previous generation before our current youth generation.(no, I'm not trying to indict them, b/c I myself was a regular viewer of this show back then, even though I shouldn't have been)
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: egypt December 19, 2012, 09:44:50 PM
It is beyond my fathoming how any of them could be posing and smiling for pictures   ???

I am sure there are plenty of people out there who have lost a child who would be more qualified to comment.  Personally, I find it odd behavior.

love, e
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: BossDude December 19, 2012, 10:08:01 PM
It was taken when Obama visited the families a day or so later! Two of those children are the siblings of Emilie, the little girl killed!


So who is the little girl in the red and black dress and why does everyone look happy? If that is Emily how is she in that picture if she was killed?
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O December 19, 2012, 10:16:58 PM
It's Not the laughing just before the tears that strikes me odd.  People in denial and shock can demonstrate Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde traits.  

What stands out is his question... "you want me to read THE card"  NOT "My Card" but "THE CARD".  He is obviously reading it an processing what it says on it.   Why would someone who just lost their child need to do that?  Or, even need 'THE CARD" in the first place.  

How many of these family members got a good behind closed doors talk'n to by Barry Soetaro?   Was a deal cut to go along with whatever a big PR firm puts in front of them?  

Will a hand full of these families sell our country out and go on tours that are nothing more than American disarmament PR road shows.  Will the MSM like Ellen give them a big stage in front of the camera to perform in front of?

This is going to be a long drawn out big PR snow job we are going to have to fight tooth and nail.

I mean how can you speak out against the families who are victims?  Well, if they sold out pretty easily.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Effie Trinket December 19, 2012, 10:29:16 PM
It is beyond my fathoming how any of them could be posing and smiling for pictures   ???

I am sure there are plenty of people out there who have lost a child who would be more qualified to comment.  Personally, I find it odd behavior.

love, e
Look at this:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2087583/pg1
Sandy Hook "Hoax" Medical Examiner Wayne Carver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JV3KYBS64R8

http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/State-M-E-Carver-withdraws-his-resignation-3323521.php
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Blowback December 19, 2012, 10:55:30 PM
Top 10 Reasons Why The Sandy Hook Shooting Is Suspicious
http://www.infosalvo.com/blog/top-10-reasons-why-the-sandy-hook-shooting-is-suspicious/
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: America2 December 19, 2012, 11:10:20 PM
I don't think the shootings itself was staged and made up - however, I do think a number of "actors" have been brought in to juice things up and to make it look like the 2nd ammendment(among other things) are the evil among evils. While the MSM may not, at times, rail against the 2nd ammendment during this tragedy, they have juiced up other things in a sympathetic light to play on the masses's emotions.

And it doesn't help either when you have the supposedly pro-gun rights Republicans in Congress and the NRA sitting around staying silent.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 19, 2012, 11:23:14 PM
Elementary Schools
Sandy Hook School
2010 review (http://newtown.patch.com/listings/sandy-hook-elementary-school)

Sandy Hook is the district's largest elementary school. It has been recognized as a Connecticut Vanguard School for sustaining high level of performance. The school takes a "responsive classroom" approach, which uses daily morning meetings and other tools to foster students' sense of belonging.

Sandy Hook was the first school to install classroom SMART Boards, or interactive whiteboards. By the end of the 2009-10 school year, all classrooms  for students in kindergarten through fourth grade will be equipped with SMART Boards.

The school's motto is "Think you can, work hard, get smart, be kind."

Like most other elementary schools in town, Sandy Hook has a cafetorium, which is a room used both as a cafeteria and auditorium. The school does not have a language lab but does have a math/science lab.

At the end of the 2009-10 year, principal Donna Page retired and was replaced by Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung, the former principal of Mitchell Elementary School in Woodbury.
Fax: 203-426-2649
Hours: Morning kindergarten, 9:05am - 11:49am; Afternoon kindergarten, 12:38pm - 3:22pm
Handicap Accessible: Yes
Number of students: 626
Public/Private: Public
Student-to-teacher ratio: 22:1
Parking: Free lot
Number of faculty: 46
Grade levels: K-4
Special education: Yes
Features: Auditorium/stage, Cafeteria, Infirmary, Library, Science lab, Sports facilities
 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 19, 2012, 11:29:10 PM
Does this mean every classroom had a digital recorder in addition to the closed circut systems in the halls and outside the buildings?


SMART Board Interactive Whiteboard FAQs for Windows Operating Systems
http://smarttech.com/kb/001245 (http://smarttech.com/kb/001245)

SMART Hardware - SMART Board interactive whiteboards
SMART Software - SMART Notebook and SMART Board software
Operating Systems - Windows operating systems


Overview

This FAQ document provides answers to questions about:
SMART Board Software
Notebook Software
SMART Recorder
SMART Video Player
Display Controls
Orienting, Adjusting the Projected Image and Cleaning
Handwriting and Touch Control
Cable and Connection Questions
Questions about Older SMART Board Models
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 20, 2012, 12:00:10 AM
I’ve actually worked with SMART boards before. I don’t remember it having a built-in camera for any reason. Can’t think of a good reason academically to even have it. It’s a touch-sensitive white board that needs a PC physically nearby in case it needs to be re-booted. Connections between the board and computer are via cables. The images on the board come from a built in projector.

I think the “recorder” is an app that records something that you do on the board for later playback.

Classroom surveillance would be better with the actual recording equipment located elsewhere.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 20, 2012, 12:39:45 AM
I’ve actually worked with SMART boards before. I don’t remember it having a built-in camera for any reason. Can’t think of a good reason academically to even have it. It’s a touch-sensitive white board that needs a PC physically nearby in case it needs to be re-booted. Connections between the board and computer are via cables. The images on the board come from a built in projector.

I think the “recorder” is an app that records something that you do on the board for later playback.

Classroom surveillance would be better with the actual recording equipment located elsewhere.

Glad you said something.  Thanks!  Unfamiliar with them and wondered if they could be of any importance - cross them off the list it seems.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 20, 2012, 04:20:30 AM
Yes that has the word Israeli in it.  

To bad that wasn't what I was talking about.  I was talking about how the Atlantic Wire sourced my article and claimed it was anti-semite.... not the Press TV article.  

And you totally glossed over my point that you posted an article that is from an Iranian source and is anti-Semitic. No wonder they called you out. Looks to me like your goal is to post sensationalistic stuff to stir people up.

I've read many of your posts and it's obvious what your up to!  ::)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 20, 2012, 05:29:35 AM
One little tidbit:

In explaining the possible false-flag aspect of Newtown to foreigners, particularly to residents of the British Commonwealth, I have found reference to Operation Gladio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio) to be much more effective than reference to Operation Northwoods http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods), which latter seems, to me, to be more relevant to the 9/11 false-flag job.

I'm presenting this tidbit as I believe myself to have an understanding of British Commonwealth culture unusual for most native-born Americans such as myself, and, so far, my instincts appear, to me, to be working.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 20, 2012, 06:32:49 AM
If this post should be part of another thread, then I request Admin to place this post appropriately.

I am, in fact, no Conservative, save for the extent that I am a Jeffersonian Constitutionalist, but, otherwise, I am considered by the great bulk of those who know me as a Leftist.

Here's one of my favorite songs by the great Leftist folk singer Phil Ochs, which I hope you Conservatives will understand more than do most of my fellow American Leftists.  (Once again, I must point out that this song, in an American accent, has enormous impact upon British Commonwealth people!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUcnNfjku6U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUcnNfjku6U)

Cheers!
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: jofortruth December 20, 2012, 09:04:41 AM
So who is the little girl in the red and black dress and why does everyone look happy? If that is Emily how is she in that picture if she was killed?


That is Emilie's sister in her dress in that picture, IMO. Her two siblings are shown in the picture. Obama went to visit with the families after the shooting. Look at the family picture!

Kids that young who don't understand what happened are typically happy kids. There is nothing strange about this picture. This is being blown out of porportion and this forum should know better.

Once again, the focus should be on the SHOOTER and his family, a possible 2nd shooter, and the police handling this incident and their statements.

As far as the dad's response and reading what he was given. I think the Mormon church he goes to wrote that, or some member of his family. They take every opportunity to witness to people and make statements.

Look at the comments posted EARLIER above, in blue, on how Mormon's believe and how they don't think for themselves. The one guy commenting tells why he left the church also. It is telling:


ENTITLED: "Look at these comments on the video, from people who know the Mormon faith - I still think this thread is misinterpreting the video and pictures associated with Robbie Parker!"
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 20, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
Quiz: True or False

Talking points presented for the next week or so. IMO, a presentation full of wild geese and herrings.

Adam Lanza fought violently with his mother Nancy three days before her death. What caused their fall out?

Adam Lanza’s mother Nancy fought with school.

Adam Lanza said to have worshipped the devil insists former classmate.

Source disputes claim that Adam Lanza was about to be committed. ‘Story should never have run…

Did Adam Lanza’s fear of being imminently ‘committed’ lead him to taking revenge on children who Nancy loved more than him?

Adam Lanza spent hours in windowless basement playing violent video games and fantasizing about guns.

Adam Lanza’s mother Nancy held secret that caused her to worry time was running out.

Adam Lanza victims are now beginning to be buried. Six year old Noah Pozner has funeral.

Adam Lanza shooting leads to idiotic belief that it could have been stopped if only teachers were allowed to carry concealed weapons.

Still no sign of Adam Lanza’s father, Peter Lanza. Media comes looking for him but he is no where to be found.

Adam Lanza’s mother begged his baby sitter to ‘never turn your back.’

Adam Lanza’s mother ‘is not alone’ blogger sparks outrage and reconciliation.

Adam Lanza. Has the media failed in its coverage?

Did Adam Lanza’s mother Nancy cause him to revolt?

Adam Lanza was getting worse. Burning himself with lighter. Nancy Lanza feared losing him.

Adam Lanza. Why did he target Sandy Hook Elementary school?

Adam Lanza’s mother Nancy would encourage him to join her for shooting target practice.

Adam Lanza names of victims released in revenge attack after fight with teachers the day before.

Adam Lanza tried to buy rifle days before but declined background check.

Breaking: Adam Lanza had ‘wild argument’ with four teachers at school a day before.

Adam Lanza was nerd and honors student but very weird. Shunned by the community.

http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2012/12/adam-lanza-said-to-have-worshipped-the-devil-insists-former-classmate/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Blowback December 20, 2012, 09:55:35 AM
And you totally glossed over my point that you posted an article that is from an Iranian source and is anti-Semitic. No wonder they called you out. Looks to me like your goal is to post sensationalistic stuff to stir people up.

I've read many of your posts and it's obvious what your up to!  ::)

I'm not up to anything but trying to find the truth.  I got my opinions just like you have yours and I'm just posting what I find.  Just because you didn't like the content of an article I posted in this thread doesn't mean I endorse the f**king article, I didn't write it or post it to my website.   I posted it to get ya'lls opinion on it. 
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 20, 2012, 10:15:25 AM
Full Disclosure: Is There A Connection Between Libor Scandal and School Shootings?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SdCTqY8TYIo#!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: EvadingGrid December 20, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
And you totally glossed over my point that you posted an article that is from an Iranian source and is anti-Semitic. No wonder they called you out. Looks to me like your goal is to post sensationalistic stuff to stir people up.

I've read many of your posts and it's obvious what your up to!  ::)

Actually its obvious that it is you with the agenda.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 20, 2012, 10:49:55 AM
Sandy Hook massacre: Evidence of official foreknowledge?
http://www.sott.net/article/254925-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Evidence-of-official-foreknowledge
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 20, 2012, 11:30:10 AM
Sandy Hook massacre: Evidence of official foreknowledge?
http://www.sott.net/article/254925-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Evidence-of-official-foreknowledge

Key points from that article:

How did they even know at this point that Ryan had a younger 20-year-old brother when there are no public records of Adam Lanza since 2009 and the two brothers had not seen each other since 2010, as claimed by Ryan? How could they have known on Friday morning that Ryan had a girlfriend and that she and another friend were missing in New Jersey? How did they even know that Ryan had any connection to New Jersey at all? The Lanzas' mother was dead at this point and their father only found out later through a reporter asking him about Adam, who had by then become the 'lone gunman' in the official narrative.



Even if we granted these 'law enforcement officials' superfast detective powers, they would not have been able to travel back in time to rewrite the script regarding how they knew what they knew about the Lanza brothers, particularly Ryan. Because from the moment the official line was forced to deviate towards saying that Ryan Lanza was no longer the 'dead shooter inside the building', it became impossible for these 'law enforcement officials' who "weren't authorised to speak" (but heck, were telling lots of people lots of things that morning anyway, and whose credentials enabled them to speak through the Associated Press and other media outlets) to have retrospectively discovered all these connections of Ryan.

According to this, it looks like Ryan’s posting on facebook is what kept him out of the morgue and jail. It was a smart move on his part.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 20, 2012, 12:17:22 PM
Key points from that article:

According to this, it looks like Ryan’s posting on facebook is what kept him out of the morgue and jail. It was a smart move on his part.

I certainly agree with this. 

I find it interesting that Ryan, after the fact, posted that he believed his brother and mother were dead.  I think Ryan knew his family was being targeted just by what he posted later before the police came to arrest him.  I say 'arrested' because they carted him off in handcuffs to question him.

Sources:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248327/Ryan-Lanza-Moment-brother-Adam-Lanza-saw-CNN-mistakenly-report-Sandy-Hook-shooter.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/439110/ryan-lanza-wrongly-named-ct-shooter-found-out-about-massacre-at-work-left-to-grieve/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: TahoeBlue December 20, 2012, 12:18:28 PM
No gun safe?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/nancy-lanza-rarely-counted-as-sandy-hook-victim.html
Nancy Lanza Is Rarely Counted As a Sandy Hook Victim
 By Margaret Hartmann and Joe Coscarelli

With few clues to explain why 20-year-old Adam Lanza went on a shooting rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School last week, much of the speculation — and blame — has fallen on his mother.

Though police have not released any information on how Nancy Lanza's guns were stored or what treatment she sought for her son, many are furious at her for teaching him to shoot in the first place and failing to foresee that he was capable of an act of horrific violence.

Police say that Nancy was found in her bed with four bullets in her head, making her Adam's first victim. However, the Washington Post notes that memorials in Newtown, Connecticut, only list the 26 victims — twenty children and six adults — who were killed in the school.
...
"Maybe somewhere there is a deep thought that the shooter's mother could be responsible for leaving the guns available," said another local, who opted not to include Nancy Lanza in his store's memorial. "How could he reach those guns? If she had kept them in a safer place, this thing might not have happened."
...
Reports now indicate that Nancy Lanza spent from Tuesday afternoon to Thursday afternoon of last week on a "mini-vacation" in New Hampshire, about four and a half hours from Newtown. The following morning, after returning home, she was shot dead by her son as he began his assault. Her body has been claimed by family in New Hampshire.
...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/connecticut-shooter-guns_n_2306913.html
Connecticut Shooter Adam Lanza's Guns Were Registered To Mother Nancy Lanza: Official
...
The Bushmaster and two other weapons were found near the body of Lanza, who killed himself at the school.

It was not clear the make of the weapon found outside the school.

Investigators are combing gun shops and ranges in the area, and looking into the ownership of the weapons involved. Lanza's mother had legally registered four weapons, and his father had two.
...
Three other guns have also been recovered, but it was not clear where they were found, the official told AP. They were a Henry repeating rifle, an Enfield rifle and a shotgun.
...
Also unclear is which gun the 20-year-old Lanza used to take his own life or his mother's. The Lanzas autopsies are scheduled for Sunday.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: BossDude December 20, 2012, 12:43:17 PM
Wow,i still don't get it. So once again. If that is EMILIE in the red dress(Parker family photo) how is she in the photo with obama? On her memorial page, it is the same girl. Check the hairstyle. So which girl in the family photo got killed? My head is spinning....
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 20, 2012, 04:47:14 PM
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Exclusive-Lanza-s-Call-to-Duty-Denied-4133287.php
dated 12-20-12
Adam Lanza aspired to be a Marine -- one of "the few, the proud."
Failing that, he planned to join another branch of military service.
That is what he told his mother, Nancy Lanza, his biggest cheerleader, and that is what she relayed to one of her closest friends, Ellen Adriani, of Newtown. ...Adam Lanza first made his military aspirations known when he was 17...

Did he at least see a recruiter?  You bet he did, just like all the others:


5-28-75 Centennial Secondary School, Michael Slobodian, 16
"...somebody asked him about his new short haircut and he replied, "I've joined the armed forces." She said he then made a machine gun motion as if he were firing at the party."
"...he did apply for admission to the local militia regiment."

12-6-89 Ecole Poytechnique, Marc Lepine, 25
Luc Riopel, the Laval landlord, said that when Lépine moved out, he had said that he was going off to join the army.
--1981 Marc Lepine applies to the Canadian Army, but is rejected as "unsuitable."

4-20-99 Columbine
Eric Harris, 18, had contact with a marine recruiter

9-16-99 Wedgewood Baptist Church, Larry Gene Ashbrook, 47
He served at least two stints in the Navy, said a spokesman for the Department of Veterans Affairs in Dallas.

12-26-00 Wakefield/Edgewater massacre, MA
Michael "Mucko" McDermott, 42, joined the Navy at age 17, serving aboard a nuclear submarine.

8-30-06 Orange HS, Hillsborough NC Alvaro Rafael Castillo, 19
The North Carolina National Guard said Thursday that Castillo entered the Guard in 2004 as a cook and completed Basic Combat Training in August 2005. Prior to his Advanced Individual Training ship date in May of 2006, he was determined to be medically disqualified for military service.

9-13-06 Dawson College, Montreal, Kimveer Gill, 25
Gill did basic training at the Canadian Forces Leadership and Recruit School in Saint-Jean, Que., for a month in 1999 The spokesman said he did not know the circumstances of Mr. Gill's premature departure.
--Friends said that, even in high school, Mr. Gill spoke of joining the Armed Forces

12-12-06 Springfield Township HS, PA Shane Halligan, 16
He had planned to attend a National Guard boot camp in the summer, between his junior and senior years(preparatory to joining the NG upon graduation).

4-16-07 Virginia Tech, Cho Seung Hui, 23
"My dad told me today that on MSNBC, between the time they identified Cho by name and the time they got the package, they said he was an ex-Marine, ex-Navy. Dad said they never mentioned it again..."
--There was also a photo seen on the net, not long after the shooting, of a guy who loked like a masked Cho in a US Marine cami uniform.

12-4-07 Omaha/Westroads Mall, Robert Hawkins, 21
Sources also tells Action 3 News that Hawkins recently tried to get into the Army but was not allowed to join.

12-9-07 YWAM/New Life Church Matthew Murray, 24
"Murray recently talked to an army recruiter about enlisting in the army reserves. The family did not know what happened with that."
"Steve states Matthew told him he was trying to get into the army."

2-14-08 Northern Illinois University, Steven Kazmierczak, 27
In September, 2001, Kazmierczak joined the army. Six months later he was issued an administrative discharge, before he completed basic training, though the exact reasons were not revealed.

7-27-08 TVUUC shooting, Jim D. Adkisson, 57
Military records show Adkisson was a private in the U.S. Army from 1974 to 1980 and served as a helicopter repairman for the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell.

9-23-08 Kauhajoki School of Hospitality Matti Juhani Saari, 22
He entered the Finnish Defence Forces as a conscript in July 2006... Saari did not complete his military service. The FDF have not divulged details of why Saari's military service was terminated.

------------

Many of the perpetrators who commit random-rage shootings have ties to the military. Of course, people who are obsessed with weapons, war, and violence might normally be interested in the military, so this is not unduy suspicious. But you could also say that this is the route in which the perp/patsy first comes to the notice of the covert operators, as people who join the military take a battery of personality tests in which someone's propensity for violence or vulnerability to mind manipulation might be revealed. And it might provide an opportunity for the covert operators to conduct their mind-control programming far away from prying eyes.


: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 20, 2012, 05:06:22 PM
Actually its obvious that it is you with the agenda.


No question I have an agenda! It's to ferret out bs, in the hopes the truth will be posted and not sensational junk misinformation from of all sources, Iran!

And I'm sick and tired of people posting not-so-subtle jabs at Israel when the secular country Israel is just one side of the left/right issue intentionally created by globalists.

Israel's "Palestinian"enemies are just as guilty, but some think it's okay to only post one side of the story to make it look like Israel is the only evil in the mix.

If you cannot see that then you're either blind, or you support it.

I thought the "truth movement" was about...the truth.

Since when did Iranian news sources become credible? They are about as credible as press releases from the Chinese Communist Party!

Just sayin'!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 20, 2012, 05:09:02 PM
No question I have an agenda! It's to ferret out bs, in the hopes the truth will be posted and not sensational junk misinformation from of all sources, Iran!

And I'm sick and tired of people posting not-so-subtle jabs at Israel when the secular country Israel is just one side of the left/right issue intentionally created by globalists.

Israel's "Palestinian"enemies are just as guilty, but some think it's okay to only post one side of the story to make it look like Israel is the only evil in the mix.

If you cannot see that then you're either blind, or you support it.

I thought the "truth movement" was about...the truth.

Since when did Iranian news sources become credible? They are about as credible as press releases from the Chinese Communist Party!

Just sayin'!

+1000
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 20, 2012, 05:29:02 PM
Fanapt Hoax Hides Real Connection Between Shooters and SSRI Drugs

Virtually every mass shooter has been on psychotropics
 
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com/fanapt-hoax-hides-real-connection-between-shooters-and-ssri-drugs/)
December 19, 2012

The fact that Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza was about to committed into psychiatric care before his rampage almost certainly indicates he was on one of the raft of anti-psychotic pharmaceuticals linked to aggression and suicide, but reports that Fanapt was the drug are likely inaccurate.

...continues...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 20, 2012, 05:46:49 PM
Fanapt Hoax Hides Real Connection Between Shooters and SSRI Drugs

Virtually every mass shooter has been on psychotropics
 
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com/fanapt-hoax-hides-real-connection-between-shooters-and-ssri-drugs/)
December 19, 2012

The fact that Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza was about to committed into psychiatric care before his rampage almost certainly indicates he was on one of the raft of anti-psychotic pharmaceuticals linked to aggression and suicide, but reports that Fanapt was the drug are likely inaccurate.

...continues...

  HOAX AFTER HOAX.

  You would think in the day of warp-speed communication that there would be less BS but not so.  This CT Shooting Case is full of hoaxes.  It is maddening to try to follow all this.

  I believe Watson is right.  Because Lanza was about to be committed he was on some kind of SSRI.

  Do we really know if he was autistic or is that another hoax?  If he is autistic, most of those children are put on ritalin or something related to ritalin.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 20, 2012, 05:53:02 PM
Hmm, it's "chicken or the egg".

Are they put on meds because they might go off, or are they going off because of the meds?

It becomes irrelevant if the persons are victims of some kind of mind games.

And then there is the most likely scenario that this kid was really troubled and saw no other way to deal with it but to lash out.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: BossDude December 20, 2012, 05:53:38 PM
We need to know who his physician was and who was supposed to have him committed. You would think by now some real reporter(if there are any)would have investigated.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: America2 December 20, 2012, 05:57:56 PM
 HOAX AFTER HOAX.

  You would think in the day of warp-speed communication that there would be less BS but not so.  This CT Shooting Case is full of hoaxes.  It is maddening to try to follow all this.

  I believe Watson is right.  Because Lanza was about to be committed he was on some kind of SSRI.

  Do we really know if he was autistic or is that another hoax?  If he is autistic, most of those children are put on ritalin or something related to ritalin.

From my experiences with family members having autism - autistic people, yes, throw temper tandrums, throw things around, and get physical with others. But never, NEVER do they resort to this kind of violence, not even close!

To boot, autistic people are SCARED of LOUD NOISES(one autistic family member is scared to even be near fireworks b/c of the very loud noises). So this pretty much rules them out in terms of wanting to get near a gun with a 10 foot pole, much less firing it.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 20, 2012, 06:12:28 PM
 HOAX AFTER HOAX. ... Because Lanza was about to be committed ...
That was based solely on the statement of a 'friend' who 'heard' it somewhere.  Yet another red herring hoax?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 20, 2012, 06:26:24 PM
 HOAX AFTER HOAX.

  You would think in the day of warp-speed communication that there would be less BS but not so.  This CT Shooting Case is full of hoaxes.  It is maddening to try to follow all this.

  I believe Watson is right.  Because Lanza was about to be committed he was on some kind of SSRI.

  Do we really know if he was autistic or is that another hoax?  If he is autistic, most of those children are put on ritalin or something related to ritalin.

Fully maddening to follow this.  The true false quiz the One Revelator posted is a whole nother ball of wax too.  I started finding almost every reference that we hadn't already found or set down, from the Satan worshiping stuff to his fight with the teachers the day before.

The Satan worshiping stuff links through via DailyMail to the Enquirer.  So many things have changed in the case, there's very little reason to believe that an Enquirer source is any better (or worse) than anything else at this point.  In fact the story has already transformed into his friend having said that Adam claimed that he was the Devil.  Yet the article seems to be very much the same as the prior one, minus the title change.  I guess his friend is still talking, or did the reporter forget something with the first story?  Who knows with this story?


 

'I am the devil': Former classmate reveals school gunman had 'online devil worshiping page' as childhood barber recounts how he never spoke and just stared at floors
DailyMail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250608/Adam-Lanzas-classmate-reveals-Sandy-Hook-gunman-online-devil-worshiping-page.html?ICO=most_read_module)

The Sandy Hook gunman worshiped the devil and had an online page dedicated to Satan, a former classmate revealed, as his childhood barber recalls Adam Lanza never spoke and would stare at the floor every time he had his hair cut.
 
Lanza's worshiping page had the word 'Devil' written in red, Gothic-style letters against a black background, Trevor L. Todd told The National Enquirer, something which he said was 'weird' and 'gave him the chills'. 


The FBI are trying to piece together his smashed up hard drive to see if his online footprint will reveal any motive for the killing, but they strongly believe he made use of devil-worshiping and suicide sites and boasted of his murder plans on message forums.

...continues...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 20, 2012, 06:29:23 PM
That was based solely on the statement of a 'friend' who 'heard' it somewhere.  Yet another red herring hoax?

  Who knows?

  So we see all these rumors and hoaxes and then we rarely get the truth.

  America, what a country.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-y93-6fxJDPE/UEJpos34k4I/AAAAAAAAGVk/bEI-Qz4ltXo/s1600/what-a-country-yakov.jpg)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 20, 2012, 06:36:02 PM
We need to know who his physician was and who was supposed to have him committed. You would think by now some real reporter(if there are any)would have investigated.

Well, unlike in Canada apparently, we here in the US value privacy, and a person's medical records are private under HIPPA law. A doctor cannot even acknowledge a person is in their care as I understand it.

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/coveredentities/provider_ffg.pdf (http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/coveredentities/provider_ffg.pdf)

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/legal-topics/patient-physician-relationship-topics/patient-confidentiality.page (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/legal-topics/patient-physician-relationship-topics/patient-confidentiality.page)

: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: kerrymti December 20, 2012, 06:37:12 PM
Wow,i still don't get it. So once again. If that is EMILIE in the red dress(Parker family photo) how is she in the photo with obama? On her memorial page, it is the same girl. Check the hairstyle. So which girl in the family photo got killed? My head is spinning....

Look at the pictures again.
Family photo - three girls, the one on the far right is Emily;
Obama photo - two girls (with blond hair, two on left), IMO, the girl on the far left is the same girl as the one on the left in the family photo, the other sister (IMO, she wanted to wear her sisters dress in honor of her, they are similar sizes and you can't tell hairstyle on her because it is in 'pig tales').

I agree with jo, this is a distraction.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Dude447 December 20, 2012, 06:39:21 PM
Ok here we go mass shootings at schools (particualry) or anywhere in general seems to be a USA cultural thing I personaly do not think its a big op by the gov to change the gun laws you have but clearly there is something majorly wrong going on in your culture any opinions ?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 20, 2012, 06:49:04 PM
Ok here we go mass shootings at schools (particualry) or anywhere in general seems to be a USA cultural thing I personaly do not think its a big op by the gov to change the gun laws you have but clearly there is something majorly wrong going on in your culture any opinions ?

   I think most of us would disagree with you.  AJ has been saying that the government is behind a lot of this.

  I agree with you on the fact that our culture is screwed up.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Dude447 December 20, 2012, 07:03:01 PM
thanks for the reply friend you may be right its just the whole concept of mass killing of school children, teachers(and anyone else) is a concept i cant get my head round
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 20, 2012, 07:06:45 PM
thanks for the reply friend you may be right its just the whole concept of mass killing of school children, teachers(and anyone else) is a concept i cant get my head round

  Do you think any of the rest of us understand it, my friend?  WE ALL WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE.  JOHN LENNON WAS RIGHT.  GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.

                         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZC7sqImaM
           
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Dude447 December 20, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
Hey larsonstdoc if you found me calling you friend offensive so what i thought we all are on this forum, as for your peace sentiments i agree
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 20, 2012, 07:52:32 PM
Hey larsonstdoc if you found me calling you friend offensive so what i thought we all are on this forum, as for your peace sentiments i agree

  Not at all.  Sorry if you interpreted the wrong way.  Yes we should all be friends and we should all seek peace.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Dude447 December 20, 2012, 07:55:43 PM
no prob here larsonstdoc its all cool,I enjoy your opinions and posts on ppn
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 20, 2012, 08:16:45 PM
Newtown Police Chief, Michael Kehoe, released statement:
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/20/news/doc50d38617c84e3388391136.txt
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 20, 2012, 08:19:16 PM
Connecticut medical examiner seeks genetic cause for Lanza shooting spree
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/19/news/doc50d1e60302528178791288.txt

HARTFORD — Connecticut's chief medical examiner says he's seeking genetic clues to help explain why a shooter killed 20 children and six adults in a Newtown elementary school.

Dr. H. Wayne Carver tells The Hartford Courant that he wants to know if there is any identifiable disease associated with the behavior of the shooter, Adam Lanza. He is working with the University of Connecticut department of genetics.

Paula Levy, a mediator who worked with Lanza's parents during their divorce, has said Lanza was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, an autism-like disorder.

Carver says Asperger's is not associated with violent behavior. He says he's not considering it as a reason for Lanza's rampage on Friday.

Carver is awaiting toxicology testing results for Lanza and other information.

Lanza fatally shot himself as first responders approached the school Friday morning.


So, will the body of Lanza be going to medical science?

Also, wonder if the coroner will be doing any tests on the DRUGS Adam was supposedly on, as to how that could have made him violent. Don't count on it!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 20, 2012, 08:21:29 PM
thanks for the reply friend you may be right its just the whole concept of mass killing of school children, teachers(and anyone else) is a concept i cant get my head round
Dude, I don't think any of us  human beings can get a real grip on it, . Innocents, people just like us, kids like the ones in the school,
WELL please remember Vietnam 3 million Vietnamese dead/ 60,000 US troopers , for what?
Iraq, how many kids were slaughtered out of more than a 100,000 innocents, there were no WMD's but lots of body's.  
I feel to the bottom of my heart for the parents of these children, as well my feelings for those innocents who have been slaughtered in foriegn nations for profits & the controll factor of the Global syndicate.  Infants, children and mothers have no meaning for those on high, they are simply numbers.
 Who can state emphatically these kids were an FF to boost gun controll, who can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt?
We must keep searching for truths, thats what we do, pull the covers back and investigate. Put nothing past the mafia on high, what I do believe is any tragedy such as this is sketchy & deserves serious and sincere  attention.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 20, 2012, 08:26:17 PM
"Fast and Furious" gun runner accomplice AG Eric Holder visits CT law enforcement officials (Interesting! A little debriefing or coordination going on here?)
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/20/news/doc50d355d2edfbe206280411.txt
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=6022
http://youtu.be/gKQuBoh-ov8

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder stopped in Newtown this afternoon to visit with emergency responders and personnel, a Department of Justice official confirmed.

"It's an opportunity to meet with the first responders and the folks dealing with this on the ground," the official said, declining to specify details, including Holder's arrival time.

Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance confirmed Holder was in town as of 6:30 p.m. Thursday.

“He’s here for multiple reasons,” Vance said. “He did meet with emergency responders” who went to Sandy Hook Elementary School and “he offered his appreciation.”

When asked what the visit signified for the town, Vance said “It certainly does mean a lot to the troopers and the local officers” and other emergency responders.

Holder did not hold a press conference, nor were the details of his visit made public.

WELL, OF COURSE, THE REAL REASONS FOR THIS VISIT WOULD NOT BE MADE PUBLIC! WHY WOULD ERIC GO TO CT UNLESS IT WAS SOME COORDINATION GOING ON TO HELP THEM GET THEIR GUN GRAB THAT HE ON VIDEO STATED "WE NEED TO BRAINWASH THEM INTO THINKING DIFFERENTLY ABOUT GUNS"! SO, WAS THIS THE BRAINWASHING HE WAS TALKING OF?

THERE IS MUCH ERIC KNOWS GOING WAY BACK THAT HE HAS NOT SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC GOING BACK TO OKLAHOMA CITY. LOOKS LIKE AN AGENDA AND THAT HE HAS BEEN HELPING BRING ABOUT THE DISARMAMENT FOR MANY DECADES! NOW HE HAS HIS BIG CHANCE WITH THIS MASSACRE. ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!
  >:(
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: BossDude December 20, 2012, 09:13:18 PM
Well, unlike in Canada apparently, we here in the US value privacy, and a person's medical records are private under HIPPA law. A doctor cannot even acknowledge a person is in their care as I understand it.

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/coveredentities/provider_ffg.pdf (http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/coveredentities/provider_ffg.pdf)

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/legal-topics/patient-physician-relationship-topics/patient-confidentiality.page (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/legal-topics/patient-physician-relationship-topics/patient-confidentiality.page)


So if Doctors can't be named, who was that guy who went to trial over the Michael Jackson death?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 20, 2012, 10:00:46 PM
"Fast and Furious" gun runner accomplice AG Eric Holder visits CT law enforcement officials (Interesting! A little debriefing or coordination going on here?)
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/20/news/doc50d355d2edfbe206280411.txt
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=6022
http://youtu.be/gKQuBoh-ov8

WELL, OF COURSE, THE REAL REASONS FOR THIS VISIT WOULD NOT BE MADE PUBLIC! WHY WOULD ERIC GO TO CT UNLESS IT WAS SOME COORDINATION GOING ON TO HELP THEM GET THEIR GUN GRAB THAT HE ON VIDEO STATED "WE NEED TO BRAINWASH THEM INTO THINKING DIFFERENTLY ABOUT GUNS"! SO, WAS THIS THE BRAINWASHING HE WAS TALKING OF?

THERE IS MUCH ERIC KNOWS GOING WAY BACK THAT HE HAS NOT SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC GOING BACK TO OKLAHOMA CITY. LOOKS LIKE AN AGENDA AND THAT HE HAS BEEN HELPING BRING ABOUT THE DISARMAMENT FOR MANY DECADES! NOW HE HAS HIS BIG CHANCE WITH THIS MASSACRE. ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!
  >:(

  I wouldn't trust anything Holder did.  He's usually up to no good.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: Kilika December 21, 2012, 04:38:05 AM
I agree with jo, this is a distraction.

Agreed. Yet some new members here keep pushing this stuff as a result of their own agenda apparently. ::)
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 21, 2012, 04:54:56 AM
So if Doctors can't be named, who was that guy who went to trial over the Michael Jackson death?

That's not what I said!

I said doctors/medical professionals cannot disclose who their patients are without the patient authorizing it.

What does Jackson have to do with this? Nothing. He was an adult, and the doctor in question was charged with a crime over his care, and details came out from the court case.

I'm beginning to question what your up to! Jackson? WTF? ::)

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: A Dissident December 21, 2012, 12:37:34 PM
Bob Barr, a "former" CIA operative, was on Alex's show today and saying: "Why aren't these people being institutionalized?"

Really? He's going to promote the official line and sing the praises of the fascistic mental health crackdown being prepared by the establishment. Guess it's true what they say. Once CIA, always CIA.
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: BossDude December 21, 2012, 12:59:03 PM
Own agenda? PLEEEEASE! All i asked was a question. Is that too much for you Mr Eyeroller? Distraction? From what?
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: donnay December 21, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
This picture was disturbing to me.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249148-168C7119000005DC-503_634x632.jpg)


Obama photo op smiling away with the parents of a murdered girl.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: KazKru December 21, 2012, 01:08:26 PM
This whole thing is starting to remind me of the Stepford Wives!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 21, 2012, 01:50:25 PM

If his mother's long-time residence was in Newtown, why would the vehicle bear New Jersey plates?  If he had a valid driver's license, why would he feel the need to carry his brother's ID?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248197/Adam-Lanza-How-honor-student-goth-killer-massacring-20-children-Sandy-Hook-Elementary.html
...police have cordoned off a black Honda with New Jersey plates believed to belong to the dead shooter.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/newtown-sandy-hook-school-shooting/hc-lanza-ghost-20121219,0,359337.story
He did obtain a driver's license in July of 2010, three months after he turned 18....

I wonder what kind of car the brother owned....
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: chris jones December 21, 2012, 02:19:30 PM
  I wouldn't trust anything Holder did.  He's usually up to no good.
Holder, Senator Conwyn had a tid bit for him:
The case against Eric Holder could begin and end with his handling of “Operation Fast and Furious,” the program in which our Justice Department deliberately allowed the sale of nearly 2,000 firearms to Mexican drug cartels, and then intentionally lost track of them. In December 2010, two of these guns were found at the murder scene of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, yet Mr. Holder still has not held anyone accountable. Moreover, his sworn testimony has repeatedly been contradicted by internal memos, and his administration has misled Congress. Unreal, but this was posted by Fox MSM. 

Misled congress, that bit I don't like, Congress doesn't exist as it was intended to.
Congressional investigations, NOPE they just don't get there do they!



: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 21, 2012, 02:22:22 PM
Holder could care less, he's got Executive Privilege, no thanks to Obama.
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: America2 December 21, 2012, 02:39:09 PM
This picture was disturbing to me.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249148-168C7119000005DC-503_634x632.jpg)


Obama photo op smiling away with the parents of a murdered girl.

Exactly - why is ANYONE smiling, period - this is what crept me out a bit.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 21, 2012, 05:03:57 PM
Rep Debbie W Shultz (D - Fla) on CNN speaking about Obama's moves on gun control in the wake of the hellish spree killing in Connecticut, "It is important to take advantage of events,...".

Then, moments later CNN cuts to Jessica Yellin infront of the White House, "There's still no god news from officials,...".  A Freudian-slip I'm sure, but they do have a nasty habit of revealing deeper subjective relationships to the subject matter in context of the spoken error, and sometimes its just what you're thinking while your lips are saying something else.  Either way, I think it's safe to say there's too much Obama worship going on at CNN and it's showing.       
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: larsonstdoc December 21, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
Rep Debbie W Shultz (D - Fla) on CNN speaking about Obama's moves on gun control in the wake of the hellish spree killing in Connecticut, "It is important to take advantage of events,...".

Then, moments later CNN cuts to Jessica Yellin infront of the White House, "There's still no god news from officials,...".  A Freudian-slip I'm sure, but they do have a nasty habit of revealing deeper subjective relationships to the subject matter in context of the spoken error, and sometimes its just what you're thinking while your lips are saying something else.  Either way, I think it's safe to say there's too much Obama worship going on at CNN and it's showing.       

  Schultz learns well from one of her superiors...............
                       http://blogs.hbr.org/friedman/2008/11/dont-waste-this-crisis.html


President-Elect Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, recently said: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." Emanuel--using a phrase of which Tom Friedman (no relation) is also fond (he heard it from economist Paul Romer)--was talking about how governments must take advantage of our current economic crisis. But the same idea applies to each of us, as individuals and as business leaders.




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: bento December 21, 2012, 05:17:57 PM
Yep dead daughter...... oh wait smile for the photo op. That cameraman would have to dig deep to pull the camera back out.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 21, 2012, 05:29:52 PM
This is purportedly a photo of the suspect's car.  

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/gw50d4b2f1.jpg)

"872 YEO"  Connecticut plates.
 
It is allegedly registered to a Christo­pher A. Rodia.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 21, 2012, 06:23:32 PM
This is purportedly a photo of the suspect's car.  

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/gw50d4b2f1.jpg)

"872 YEO"  Connecticut plates.
 
It is allegedly registered to a Christo­pher A. Rodia.





Duo caught stealing copper from construction site


Updated: Sunday, 29 Jul 2012, 6:29 PM EDT
Published : Sunday, 29 Jul 2012, 12:21 PM EDT

WESTPORT, Conn. (WTNH) -- A man and a woman were arrested for stealing copper from a house that was under construction, police say.

Police received a phone call reporting that two persons were acting suspiciously at a home construction site at 10 Stony Point Road around 10 p.m. Saturday.

Officers responded and stopped a vehicle that was leaving the scene. At that time, they noticed a large amount of copper in the rear of the car.

The two occupants were detained and it was determined that the copper was stolen from a gutter system at the construction site.

The man, Christopher Rodia, 42, was charged with 3rd degree larceny, conspiracy to commit larceny, criminal mischief, possession of narcotics and failure to carry prescription drugs in a prescribed container.

The woman, Cassandre Scire, 19, was charged with 3rd degree larceny, conspiracy to commit larceny and criminal trespass.

Each is being held on a $2,500 bond and their court date is set for August 7th, 2012.

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/duo-caught-stealing-copper-from-construction-site#.UNSqcG9X1Xc
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 21, 2012, 06:28:02 PM
Donnay,

Are you saying this photo came from another crime scene?  If so, I must apologize for jumping the gun on this.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 21, 2012, 08:54:07 PM
Donnay,

Are you saying this photo came from another crime scene?  If so, I must apologize for jumping the gun on this.

Oh no...I just happened to be searching on Christo­pher A. Rodia and came across that article.  I thought it was weird that he was arrested for taking copper from Construction sites.  Interesting the court date was August 7th, 2012.

Here is his Facebook page:  https://www.facebook.com/christopher.rodia

Here is another article of his arrest:  http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Couple-charged-with-stealing-copper-from-Stony-3744269.php

I suppose if he had a court date in August and found guilty (which I haven't been able to find it) I would think he would be in jail unable to drive his vehicle.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 21, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
  Schultz learns well from one of her superiors...............
                       http://blogs.hbr.org/friedman/2008/11/dont-waste-this-crisis.html


President-Elect Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, recently said: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." Emanuel--using a phrase of which Tom Friedman (no relation) is also fond (he heard it from economist Paul Romer)--was talking about how governments must take advantage of our current economic crisis. But the same idea applies to each of us, as individuals and as business leaders.


Rahm was exactly who I thought of as she was speaking.  He's become infamous with that.  She said roughly, "We have to keep these weapons of war out of the hands of the average citizen."  Rep Schultz voted for the NDAA that created secret trials, indefinate detention and secret kill lists. Her deeds potentially target the average citizen, while her words seek to disarm them.

Wasserman-Schultz said it after calling the NRA "tone deaf" for wanting to have armed, qualified people in schools.  If she'd criticized their stance on a national mental health registry, I'd say she didn't go far enough, but she didn't.  She wants the ATF at gun shows, a semi auto ban and likely more.  If they're 'tone deaf' about average citizens having guns to guard our lives and other's lives against others with guns, than she's a 'pinball wizard'.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 22, 2012, 12:59:11 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Inside the mind of Newtown killer Adam Lanza; he ‘was like a ghost’
 
His mother spotted his precipitous withdrawal before he went on his rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School. ‘He didn’t understand why she wanted him to go out into the world. She told me she couldn’t reach him — and she was worried,’ says a family friend.

nydailynews.com (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-mind-newtown-killer-article-1.1223612#ixzz2Fl0ew923)
By Matthew Lysiak / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Wednesday, December 19, 2012, 2:24 PM

In the days before the massacre, the mother of Adam Lanza was pushing her loner son to leave the Newtown home that provided his refuge from reality, a family friend told the Daily News Wednesday.
 
“He sat in his room playing video games for hours and hours,” the friend said. “She thought the best thing was for him to get out of the house and into the world. To interact with people a little bit.”

But the 20-year-old rejected the idea and stopped speaking to his mother, the friend said. Nancy Lanza and her youngest son hadn’t talked for three days before he fatally shot her Friday morning and then murdered 20 children and six staffers at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
 
Nancy Lanza had brought her son to a psychiatrist as he became increasingly anti-social — spending endless hours in his room by himself.

“He was like a ghost,” the friend said.
 
When the mother pressed the issue of moving away, “he didn’t want to leave,” according to the pal. “He didn’t understand why she wanted him to go out into the world. She told me she couldn’t reach him — and she was worried.”

But there was never any hint of violence.
 
“He would start yelling and stuff like that,” the friend said. “He would never hit her. He would just act like a child when he got mad. That’s what she told me.”

A recent attempt to take Adam on a southern vacation ended with his refusal to accompany his mom, who was also suggesting that he needed to get a job or perhaps start college.

“She felt that he was slipping into himself, and that it was time for him to move forward,” the friend said. “He was pushing back against this idea.”

While Nancy hadn’t set a hard deadline for Adam to move out, her concern was increasing as he became more “distant” and “withdrawing into himself,” the friend said.

“I’m not sure that’s the reason he snapped, but it’s my best guess,” the friend said. “I knew that that was the source of any stress between the two.”
 
The friend also rejected a report that Nancy was planning to have her son committed to a psychiatric facility.

“Nancy was so dedicated to Adam,” the friend said. “She would never send him away. She just couldn’t do that.”

The friend said that no one might ever know what was going on in Adam’s mind before he donned black camouflage, a military-style vest and his mother’s weapons.
 
“It makes no sense,” he said. “None of this does.”
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: Kilika December 22, 2012, 04:09:25 AM
Oh no...I just happened to be searching on Christo­pher A. Rodia and came across that article.  I thought it was weird that he was arrested for taking copper from Construction sites.  Interesting the court date was August 7th, 2012.

Here is his Facebook page:  https://www.facebook.com/christopher.rodia

Here is another article of his arrest:  http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Couple-charged-with-stealing-copper-from-Stony-3744269.php

I suppose if he had a court date in August and found guilty (which I haven't been able to find it) I would think he would be in jail unable to drive his vehicle.

Wait, did I miss something? What's the deal with this car on the flatbed? And why is there a story about those people stealing copper? How is that related to the school shooting?

It seems like as presented, this car was towed from Sandy Hook school?

Sorry, a bit confused! :-\
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: chris jones December 22, 2012, 08:13:34 AM
Adolf did it, we can do it..    Hitlers legacy.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 22, 2012, 09:44:44 AM
Oh no...I just happened to be searching on Christo­pher A. Rodia and came across that article.  I thought it was weird that he was arrested for taking copper from Construction sites.  Interesting the court date was August 7th, 2012.

Here is his Facebook page:  https://www.facebook.com/christopher.rodia

Here is another article of his arrest:  http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Couple-charged-with-stealing-copper-from-Stony-3744269.php

I suppose if he had a court date in August and found guilty (which I haven't been able to find it) I would think he would be in jail unable to drive his vehicle.

30:30 It's CHRISTOPHER A. RODIA, Born AUG 1969 He is a degenerate who was arrested for stealing copper from a construction site earlier this year...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYoQtc

Also, Donnay beat me to it here's the Ben Swann run down on the potential libor connection.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM5Ec_X93FE
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 22, 2012, 09:53:38 AM
in addition to ^the above scanner audio, here it is on Fox but the TWO shadows become one guy? It seems fox tried to make the officer out to be saying "We got him, he's coming at me" instead of what I initially heard "We got 'em, they're coming at me"  :-\
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AfZXH33eQ

I still hear "THEY'RE" not "HE's"...

: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 22, 2012, 09:58:35 AM
This is purportedly a photo of the suspect's car.  

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/gw50d4b2f1.jpg)

"872 YEO"  Connecticut plates.
 
It is allegedly registered to a Christo­pher A. Rodia.
30:30 It's CHRISTOPHER A. RODIA, Born AUG 1969 He is a degenerate who was arrested for stealing copper from a construction site earlier this year..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYoQtc
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 22, 2012, 10:07:24 AM
"A federal official also told CBS News on Friday evening that all three weapons recovered in the shooting were, according to state records, bought legally and registered to the gunman’s mother.

The Associated Press reported that more guns were found inside of the school and that state and federal authorities were tracing them."

Ummm what does that mean? Am I just retarded or is there a blatant contradiction there?

source..
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-report-of-school-shooting-in-conn/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 22, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
"The Associated Press reports a Henry repeating rifle, an Enfield rifle and a shotgun were recovered. It was not clear exactly where those weapons were found."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559395/conn-school-shooter-had-4-weapons/
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 22, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
Wait, did I miss something? What's the deal with this car on the flatbed? And why is there a story about those people stealing copper? How is that related to the school shooting?

It seems like as presented, this car was towed from Sandy Hook school?

Sorry, a bit confused! :-\

I understand this whole thing is a bit confusing (mostly done on purpose IMHO).  The car on the flatbed was being reported as the shooter's mother's car.  In fact it was registered to a Christo­pher A. Rodia.  A guy who allegedly was arrested earlier this year.  The obfuscations keep coming...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 22, 2012, 01:26:10 PM
I understand this whole thing is a bit confusing (mostly done on purpose IMHO).  The car on the flatbed was being reported as the shooter's mother's car.  In fact it was registered to a Christo­pher A. Rodia.  A guy who allegedly was arrested earlier this year.  The obfuscations keep coming...

AHH! Okay, got it.

I thought the intent was to say that Honda was alleged to be connected to the shooter/mother at the school, then I read that it's registered to a person not affiliated with the Lanza family and thought that's a huge problem. Hmm.

In part I was wondering, if that car wasn't the "suspect's", why the story about it and it's owner, the Rodia person, and steeling copper. Thought maybe somebody got sidetracked! Now I get it. It IS suppose to be connected tot he shooter, so the really obvious question is what is the connection to the car then? Did Lanza steal it? Did Rodia cut a deal he wasn't aware of? How is it that Rodia's car got to the school parking lot? Hmm.

After making sure the photo is real, and the plate on it is real, and that Honda was in fact towed away from the school, somebody has some serious questions to answer.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 22, 2012, 05:56:53 PM
This is purportedly a photo of the suspect's car.  

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/gw50d4b2f1.jpg)

"872 YEO"  Connecticut plates.
 
It is allegedly registered to a Christo­pher A. Rodia.

Hey folks, check out the subliminal message you're being given in that pic:

"The One....The Only...."

As in, Adam Lanza is "the one, the only" shooter!
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 22, 2012, 10:21:02 PM
Can anyone verify or refute the facts alleged in this email?  I received about four copies of this unsolicited email from a person I do not know.

Here's the text of the email:

Newtown, Connecticut is the second Dunblane Primary-School Massacre.   Saturday, December 22, 2012 2:16 PM

From: "fremanfighter@dune.com"

The primary-school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, approximately 45 miles from the Colt Arms Factory, is just another one in the long line of government psyops designed to persuade the public to allow the government to take away their guns, and their means to defend themselves against the government and the banksters that the politicians really serve.

The small children murders are designed to create hysterical emotions in women to get them to demand that guns are banned. If that doesn’t work they will continue with their evil agenda with worse and worse atrocities on younger children, until they get their way and disarm the people, so that they cannot fight back against government tyranny.

Newtown is the U.S.A.’s Dunblane, which was orchestrated in Scotland in 1996 by the British establishment, to whip up hysteria in order to ban all handguns from the U.K. It was a follow-up to the Hungerford Massacre in England in 1987, which was carried out by mind-controlled Michael Ryan, who then shot himself so he could not be questioned, and it was used to ban semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.

It’s always the same people behind it – the gun-grabbers who want the people to be defenceless against the gun-grabbers’ employers – the banksters who own all of the politicians. They get their politicians to pass legislation for them, in order to remove the people’s freedoms and means of defending themselves, and enslave them in a draconian police-state, under a mountain of debt, and then exterminate the useless-eaters.

The Dunblane  massacre was supposedly carried out by Thomas Hamilton, who was a paedophile and procurer of children, for a high level paedophile ring involving senior members of the Tony Blair Labour-Party shadow-cabinet and others. The massacre served two purposes, it achieved their desired handgun-ban and killed the abused children, so they could not be witnesses against the elite-paedophiles. They then had the findings of the inquiry sealed for 100 years, which is proof of the above.

Like Newtown there were two shooters, Hamilton and a hit-man who shot Hamilton and made it look like Hamilton committed suicide after shooting 16 children, so that he couldn’t be questioned. Hamilton was found in the school gymnasium slumped against a wall and still gurgling, when an off-duty policeman PC Grant McCutcheon entered the gym and saw two semi-automatic pistols, one on either side of Hamilton’s body.

The autopsy revealed that Hamilton was killed with a .38 revolver. These people always slip-up with their crimes. There was no .38 revolver for him to have shot himself with. Thus, there was a second shooter who killed Hamilton.

Similarly, the first reports from Newtown were of two shooters, just like mind-controlled James Holmes in the Denver Batman Cinema massacre, the story then quickly changes to just one.

Columbine was similar, in that a team of shooters in black outfits were seen there and the two accused were on mind-altering prescription-drugs.

Wake up and see the pattern and their modus operandi and don’t fall for it. Never let them take your guns, except from your cold dead hands.

All of these are staged events to whip-up hysterical public support for banning the people from having guns. It works the same in every country – Hungerford in England, Dunblane in Scotland, Port Arthur in Australia and the list in America is endless, because of the Second Amendment and the people having a pro-gun culture. That makes it much more difficult to break the Americans’ love of guns and the Second Amendment, which was put in place to protect the people from the government.

Gun bans work well for tyrants. They worked well for Hitler, Stalin and Chairman Mao, to name just three.

If you want to stop these massacres, wake-up and get rid of the banksters, their puppet-politicians and all gun-grabbers; arm teachers and ban gun-free zones.

From one who can see the pattern and hopes to enable you to see it too.

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: One Revelator December 22, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
Well regardless of the theories surrounding Dunblane, we can say that it WAS an event that lead to massive gun control in the UK. Interesting that Dunblane was followed by Port Arthur only 46 days later, which lead to their gun ban. In the case of Port Arthur “Tony Rundle, Premier of Tasmania in 1996, admitted that because there was no trial the evidence made public was possibly insufficient to support that Bryant had been the gunman: At the time, the view was that a trial could do no good for the victims and their families. Now I think maybe that wasn't the case. If all the evidence was heard, then maybe it would have provided some closure and stopped the proliferation of conspiracy theories that sprang up over the years."(wiki)

So, we’re kind of in the same pattern here with Newtown. Are they going to be transparent and make all evidence of this shooting available to the public? From what I’ve seen so far, I’m thinking they won’t.

Politicians have already announced their intent. For the next 10-14 days, we can expect to see the media pull out all the emotional stops to get people to be "reasonable" so that everybody can "feel safe". After that, the federal legislation. Looks like your e-mailer is trying to counter the propaganda.
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: LilOleMe December 22, 2012, 11:42:11 PM
Thanks, One Revelator.

It's obvious that he's trying to counter the propaganda, but I was just wondering as to the source and accuracy of his facts.  I'm aware of a book entitled: "Dunblane Unburied" by Debra Uttley, who had been a paramedic on scene, but her allegations aren't nearly as serious as those of my emailer.  The book contends that the firearms laws in force in Scotland and the UK at the time were sufficient to have prevented Hamilton from possessing weapons, but that local governmental and prosecutorial corruption resulted in his possessing firearms, in that repeated complaints to the police about his conduct as a Boy Scout leader and as a leader of boy's clubs never resulted in a prosecution, despite the prosecutor's (called the Procurator Fiscal in Scotland) having received at least one request from the police for a bill including ten charges against Hamilton.  Uttley also alleges that the subsequent investigation was impeded by the investigators, and that a new investigation needs to be conducted.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Effie Trinket December 23, 2012, 12:26:15 AM
Sandy Hook Massacre - Some new leads
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2091331/pg1
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Kilika December 23, 2012, 05:29:36 AM
A clue may be in the email address..."fremanfighter@"

Here in the States, we have an anti-government group called the "Montana Freeman". No idea if it's the same, just seems similar, and considering the context of the email, and it was unsolicited, like a pr piece, just sayin.

Beware email letters! NEVER use the links provided in a given email. Spammers are expert at taking advantage of situations and playing on people's emotions to get you to open stuff or click nasty links that will expose your pc to all kinds of issues.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: LilOleMe December 23, 2012, 05:37:32 AM
A clue may be in the email address..."fremanfighter@"

Here in the States, we have an anti-government group called the "Montana Freeman". No idea if it's the same, just seems similar, and considering the context of the email, and it was unsolicited, like a pr piece, just sayin.

Beware email letters! NEVER use the links provided in a given email. Spammers are expert at taking advantage of situations and playing on people's emotions to get you to open stuff or click nasty links that will expose your pc to all kinds of issues.

I'm very careful around spam email, and this was clearly part of a mass mailing, although I have no idea how they got my email address.  This email had no links.

BTW, I am an American, and I live in the States, although I've spent quite a bit of time in Montreal and I almost moved to London (England, not Ontario) recently. ;)
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: trailhound December 23, 2012, 10:02:09 AM
Sandy Hook Massacre - Some new leads
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2091331/pg1

Very interesting..
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 23, 2012, 02:30:18 PM
Connecticut Gun Rights
An Overview of Gun Laws in Connecticut



Restrictions
Gun bans: Assault weapons are prohibited in Connecticut unless they were grandfathered in when the law took effect in 1994.



Registration of guns required: Assault weapons grandfathered in when the state’s assault weapons ban took effect in 1994 are required to be registered.

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/guncontrol/a/Connecticut-Gun-Laws.htm
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: starvosan December 23, 2012, 03:35:37 PM
Check out the creepy big-brother style surveillance Lanza was subjected to:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324677204578183910797348422.html?mod=WSJ_article_outbrain&obref=obnetwork
dated 12-17-12
His high school classmates took little notice of Mr. Lanza, but school officials did. Newtown school officials assigned a permanent psychologist to Mr. Lanza in his freshman year of high school in 2007, and flagged him to the school's security chief when he was still in middle school, a former school official said. "He was very withdrawn and meek," said (Richard J. Novia, the director of security at Newtown School District)...  He said Mr. Lanza "was one of those freshmen coming in very much in need of watching."  Mr. Novia said... he told the school's three security staffers who reported to him to carefully monitor Mr. Lanza, concerning "where he was, who he was with, and what he was doing."
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: Sasha December 23, 2012, 06:21:47 PM
Sandy Hook Shooting:Suspect Car Linked to Christopher A Rodia and Drug Family of Norwalk
Posted on December 23, 2012 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton (H/T curious canadian)
WillyLoman.wrodpress.com (http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/sandy-hook-shootingsuspect-car-linked-to-christopher-a-rodia-and-drug-family-of-norwalk/)


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If you look at the pattern of all of the staged FBI foiled terrorist plots, they always involve a confidential informant who handles the patsies right up til the event. Those CIs are almost always in trouble with the law, charismatic people who can manipulate weaker people.
 
This certainly fits that bill. Whether or not Chris was the shooter is impossible to determine based on the information we have.
 
But what can be determined is the fact that the developments in this case (big H/T to those at ATS and GLP) seem to follow an established pattern.
 
Perhaps someone should contact that man who stated he saw a guy in handcuffs in the back of the police car who had been led out of the woods and show him a picture of Christopher Rodia. That might put him at the scene. But again putting him at the scene  doesn’t him the shooter. Nor does putting his car there. His task may have been to get the patsy there to be set up for an arrest without having been told the event was going to go live. Who knows. All I am saying is, it looks like that car does not belong to Adam’s mother and the fact that it belongs to a guy who appears to be getting special treatment from the judicial process is very suspicious to me.
 
UPDATE: A reader, mangrove, found this view on Bing’s earth view thingy. Seems like it could easily be the same car. I know there had been some question if the Google Earth app had the right home picked out. Seems like the same one posted on Bing."
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UPDATE: The mayor of Norwalk Connecticut, the city where Christopher Rodia seems to be getting a “get out of jail free” card, is Richard Moccia who is a member of Bloomberg’s “Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition”
 
“Mayor Moccia is a member of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition an organization formed in 2006 and co-chaired by New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg and Boston mayor Thomas Menino.”

So who is Christopher A. Rodia? Well, the good folks over at ATS found some interesting info on the guy. Turns out he’s a low-life career criminal with at a drug possession charge back in January and a forgery charge pending from Dec. 2011 who was recently busted stealing copper out of new home construction sites while carrying some narcotics on his person. He was busted with a 19 year old girl. Lovely guy huh?
 
The man, Christopher Rodia, 42, was charged with 3rd degree larceny, conspiracy to commit larceny, criminal mischief, possession of narcotics and failure to carry prescription drugs in a prescribed container.
 
The woman, Cassandre Scire, 19, was charged with 3rd degree larceny, conspiracy to commit larceny and criminal trespass.
 
Each is being held on a $2,500 bond and their court date is set for August 7th, 2012.” News 8
 
But check this out… he was facing 7 felony charges including two narcotics charges, and he was apparently released from custody just a few months ago on his own “promise to appear” (?) Really?
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His brother and his mother have a long history of narcotics trafficking in the area. In fact, his brother was arrested with heroin and cash back in Feb and then Dennis and dear old mommy were arrested in March for trafficking drugs not a month later.
 
“According to police, when the officer approached the car he noticed a six-pack of unopened beer, and large sums of money scattered on the back seat. Upon further inspection, police say, there was also a roll of money on the center console of the car and Rodia was leaning over, seemingly, in an attempt to hide something. The amount of cash discovered in the vehicle was not given.
 
Police say, the car was searched and both men were arrested after finding two silver cans containing a total of 40 bags of heroine, 21 Oxycodone pills, 40 pills derivative of Oxycodone in a prescription bottle in neither persons name, and drug paraphernalia.” Norwalk Patch Feb. 17th
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: donnay December 24, 2012, 08:44:48 AM
Sandy Hook Massacre - Some new leads
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2091331/pg1


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: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: trailhound December 24, 2012, 10:35:07 AM
Two unidentified 'Nuns' leave the scene of sandy hook  ???
http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-shooting14twonuns-20121214,0,4985163.photo (http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-shooting14twonuns-20121214,0,4985163.photo)

http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/23/newtown-police-two-occupants-with-ski-masks-one-may-be-wearing-a-nun-outfit/
 (http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/23/newtown-police-two-occupants-with-ski-masks-one-may-be-wearing-a-nun-outfit/)


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I can still view it Donnay...
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: One Revelator December 24, 2012, 10:44:14 AM
Gene Rosen’s over the top interview – unbelievable.
He supposedly “found” a group of kids in his driveway?

Gene Rosen Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3cZhQndrY

People are doing a good job documenting all the inconsistencies.
They recognize a planned narrative – to ID one shooter as RYAN Lanza.
Then document the alteration of facts on the fly to fit the spin doctor’s version of events.

This site:
http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/

Links to tons of other pages with detailed analysis.

I’m convinced that Ryan is alive today because of his quick Facebook postings.
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 24, 2012, 12:13:05 PM

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Same happened to me on that site
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 24, 2012, 12:24:32 PM
Adam Lanza’s mother buried in New Hampshire
http://myfox8.com/2012/12/20/adam-lanzas-mother-buried-in-new-hampshire/
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/unionleader/obituary.aspx?n=nancy-j-lanza&pid=161892063

NEW HAVEN, C.T. (AP) —The mother of Connecticut gunman Adam Lanza was buried in Kingston, N.H. Thursday, police said.

Nancy Lanza once lived in New Hampshire and her brother is a retired police captain in Kingston, New Hampshire.

“Nancy Champion Lanza was buried today at an undisclosed location. There was a private service for family members only,” said Police Chief Donald Briggs.

Connecticut Medical Examiner Dr. H. Wayne Carver wouldn’t say whether Adam Lanza’s body remains unclaimed. Briggs said Adam Lanza was not buried with his mother Thursday.

Briggs said “that’s still under discussion. If anything, it would be in the Spring.”
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: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: jofortruth December 24, 2012, 12:33:14 PM
Connecticut medical examiner seeks genetic cause for Lanza shooting spree (Connected to article above?)
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/19/news/doc50d1e60302528178791288.txt

HARTFORD — Connecticut's chief medical examiner says he's seeking genetic clues to help explain why a shooter killed 20 children and six adults in a Newtown elementary school.

Dr. H. Wayne Carver tells The Hartford Courant that he wants to know if there is any identifiable disease associated with the behavior of the shooter, Adam Lanza. He is working with the University of Connecticut department of genetics.

Paula Levy, a mediator who worked with Lanza's parents during their divorce, has said Lanza was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, an autism-like disorder.

Carver says Asperger's is not associated with violent behavior. He says he's not considering it as a reason for Lanza's rampage on Friday.

Carver is awaiting toxicology testing results for Lanza and other information.

Lanza fatally shot himself as first responders approached the school Friday morning.

So, will the body of Lanza be going to medical science, or be used or some other purpose? Why would they be holding his body until Spring? There is no obituary that I can find. (see article above]
: Re: SANDY HOOK DAD CAUGHT ACTING!!! IT'S ALL A FRAUD!!!!!!!!
: hal 9000 December 24, 2012, 12:37:36 PM
This is a side by side comparison of one Carlos Matthew Soto, grieving brother of slain Vicki Soto, and a young man featured in several Facebook photos of a one Leon Greenberg, brother of Jennifer Greenberg Sexton who appears to be playing the part of Sandy Hook parent Laura Phelps, and who also appears several times on this very Facebook account -

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/Sotobroleongreenbergmatchonfacebook2009_zps64cdf5e7.png)

It is hard to deny the resemblance. I would say with about 97 % certainty that these are the same two people. If this is the case, is Vicki Soto still alive? Was she ever a real person to begin with?

Could this account for all the smiling and laughing we see with all these bereaved family members?
: Re: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged Shooting -- Ban Guns --- [Sandy Hook]
: KazKru December 24, 2012, 01:19:19 PM
Connecticut medical examiner seeks genetic cause for Lanza shooting spree (Connected to article above?)
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/19/news/doc50d1e60302528178791288.txt

So, will the body of Lanza be going to medical science, or be used or some other purpose? Why would they be holding his body until Spring? There is no obituary that I can find. (see article above]

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/operatio.htm

OPERATION MONARCH

by Mark Phillips

PURPOSE

The US department of Defense's original plans to research the Mind control phenomena was to determine psychological and chemical formulas providing the US with the "perfect" espionage agent. This quickly evolved into planning the "production" of the perfect soldier... government worker...slave.

However, German SS officer/occultist Himmler's research development scientists sent this search "for the "Manchurian Candidate" off in another direction ... PSYCHOLOGICAL GENETIC ENGINEERING.

It was determined that "absolute" mind control could be realized through specific tortures of the intended transgenerational Victim ...from the moment of birth!

Armed with this deadly research, a collection of "dedicated psychiatrists" from Germany, Italy, and the US, a new but ancient form of mind-control was reborn through Project Monarch.

Modern science had simply unraveled the occult cryptic so called "magikal" secrets of mind control...to spawn a new generation of "superior beings"...who could NEVER ASK WHAT THEIR COUNTRY COULD DO FOR THEM...BUT ONLY WHAT THEY COULD DO FOR THEIR COUNTRY.

HISTORY

Project Monarch is a US Defense Department code name assigned to a subsection of the Central Intelligence Agency's Operation Artichoke later become Project MK Ultra. Whereas Project Monarch was officially dedicated sometime in the early 1960's by the US Army. Project Monarch is a genealogical approach to define transgenerational (via genetic psychology) behavioral modification through trauma based psychological mind control.

The original documentation which spawned this project was derived from collected intensive research previously performed by top SS German Nazi scientists (1927-1941) as the result of their interest in the multigenerational affects of occult psychology as applied in the nuclear family of k