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: SHOOTING: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: HAZMAT July 20, 2012, 05:07:54 AM
10 people shot at movie premiere in aurora, co. by 2 guys with body armor 10-12 people dead, they said christian bale was one of the actors in the movie so im guessing it was batman, they said masked men used tear gas too, shot baby at point blank range, explosions, wtf. Looking for links to the story, 2 gang units on scene, just waiting for the inevitable words...

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: HAZMAT July 20, 2012, 05:11:08 AM
Still developing, 30-40 possibly injured.
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: HAZMAT July 20, 2012, 05:23:53 AM
Now they are saying it was one man wielding a rifle and a handgun with body armor. Now 14 people dead up to 50 wounded.. Though from what I have seen that might be an exaggeration, a lot of them kids and the 1 baby. And they think the suspects car is rigged with a bomb and there could be some in his apt. I am just trying to get the info at as fast as possible that we are given right now. Get ready for domestic terrorists claim...
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: Xepla July 20, 2012, 05:36:36 AM
This is so tragic. I went to the premiere in my city, and I know this could have easily been me. Thank you for keeping us updated. My heart goes out to the victims' families.

Here is a link to the live police scanner audio.
http://tunein.com/radio/Aurora-Police-and-Fire-s145268/
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: Seroquel XR July 20, 2012, 05:49:52 AM
Live feed: http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx (http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx)
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: HAZMAT July 20, 2012, 05:58:12 AM
This is so tragic. I went to the premiere in my city, and I know this could have easily been me. Thank you for keeping us updated. My heart goes out to the victims' families.

Here is a link to the live police scanner audio.
http://tunein.com/radio/Aurora-Police-and-Fire-s145268/

I know I was thinking about going to see it tonight but plan on doing it in a week. Thats why I feel this way but you gotta learn what this is before we have a knee jerk reaction.

Man in his 20s, from that town where shooting occurred. 1 Suspect 3 guns.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: 2Revolutions July 20, 2012, 06:55:16 AM
14 dead, 50 wounded in shooting at Colorado theater, police chief says

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

At least 14 people were killed and 50 wounded when a gunman opened fire during an early Friday morning screening of the new Batman movie at an Aurora, Colorado, theater, Police Chief Dan Oates told reporters.

The heavily armed suspect, who was wearing a bulletproof vest, was apprehended by police in a rear parking lot of the theater, Frank Fania, a police spokesman told CNN. The identity of the suspect has not immediately been released.

"He did not resist. He did not put up a fight," Fania said. Police seized a rifle and a handgun from the suspect, and another gun was found in the theater, he said.

: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: shipgeek July 20, 2012, 07:21:29 AM
Some were in the movie theater with a 3 months baby?

WTF???

there is a 3 months baby reported as being one of the gun wounded in one of the hospitals

some parents are really irresponsible!!!! would never come to my mind to take a 3 months baby to a midnight film!!!!!

 :o
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: scandilous July 20, 2012, 07:21:52 AM
anybody know if there was a drill taking place at the same time, scenario and place!?..
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: MonkeyPuppet July 20, 2012, 07:56:53 AM

Why didn't any of the theater's patrons present their firearm, train the front sight on the guyss brain housing unit and press off a round or ten?

Oh, that's right, because the VAST majority of Americans are moral cowards and none of these people were armed.  This will be -yet another- example of why looking after your own personal safety is indeed not paranoia, but rather common sense.

If a movie theater wants to NEVER have something like this happen, they should put a sign up front that reads "Law-abiding citizens carrying firearms receive 10% off the price of admission and concessions."
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: Freelancer July 20, 2012, 08:08:32 AM
Why didn't any of the theater's patrons present their firearm, train the front sight on the guyss brain housing unit and press off a round or ten?

Oh, that's right, because the VAST majority of Americans are moral cowards and none of these people were armed.  This will be -yet another- example of why looking after your own personal safety is indeed not paranoia, but rather common sense.

If a movie theater wants to NEVER have something like this happen, they should put a sign up front that reads "Law-abiding citizens carrying firearms receive 10% off the price of admission and concessions."

Haven't been to a movie in years, however any business that promotes a discount for allowing me to exercise my second amendment rights deserves my patronage. 
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: Modzilla_Kicker July 20, 2012, 08:40:55 AM
Let me get this straight, the shooter id is not disclosed, he was wearing a mask to both use tear gas and use that as a means to hide his ID, tall guy, did not resist, sharp shooter?, goes to the parking lot or whatever where he just gave himself up? My first suspicion is this guy is special ops, probably an Israeli citizen, or US-Israeli citizen, and the guy that will be blamed will not be him, because they've already identified his apartment, i.e. their patsy or a Lee H. O. they got both their timing and their story ready to be rolled out.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: scandilous July 20, 2012, 08:44:40 AM
ABC is already running a propaganda piece calling for government security at malls and bus stops .. and of course questioning gun laws

Colorado Shooting A Lone Wolf Attack On Soft Target

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95EvRtv7KBQ&feature=plcp
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: SpaceCommand July 20, 2012, 08:57:39 AM
ABC is already running a propaganda piece calling for government security at malls and bus stops .. and of course questioning gun laws

Colorado Shooting A Lone Wolf Attack On Soft Target

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95EvRtv7KBQ&feature=plcp

Who Smells an MKULTRA Rat in Denver - UN Gun Control?

Watch how we are supposed to believe that UN Gun control is the remedy for this "problem-reaction-solution sphere?" We have already gone through multiple phony events over the past 17 years. Are people stupid and fall for anything the general media says? This event is the bird cage liner, keep your eye on the bird okay?

Sure this a very bad event, but corrupt police SWAT teams do this kind of thing every day.

Who is not quite astonished at this news item?
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: IridiumKEPfactor July 20, 2012, 08:57:47 AM
A few things to point out.

The aurora police station is .57 miles away.

CNN had a guy from the FBI on the phone saying that this guy may have been antigovernment, domestic terrorist, possible racist.

CNN witnesses said that most people were dumbfounded. Some people even stayed in their seats to continue to watch the movie....    ???
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: bento July 20, 2012, 09:01:15 AM
This has to be an op, as no one could shoot that many people in such a short time. Once again a magic "super human" shoots a ton of people in a time even an Olympic shooter could no do. Once again people report multiple suspects, and once again the officials narrow it down to just one person. This is getting old but people still fall for it. Was there no camera phones at this event, or were people to busy running to care? Where dose one get a gas canister? This screams of being too well planned to be just one psychotic individual. Once again "guns" will be blamed because one gun can kill and injure over 60 people in under a few minutes. It reinforces peoples fear of the magic object that can destroy an entire crowded in the hands on just one person. This is just in time for the U.N. treaty, must be a coincidence. MY ASS!
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: HAZMAT July 20, 2012, 09:06:27 AM
A few things to point out.

The aurora police station is .57 miles away.

CNN had a guy from the FBI on the phone saying that this guy may have been antigovernment, domestic terrorist, possible racist.

CNN witnesses said that most people were dumbfounded. Some people even stayed in their seats to continue to watch the movie....    ???

It was a bunch of teens in a dark room with extremely loud action coming from the movie, some thought it was part of the movie promotion. That's why nobody was armed, or didn't jump out of their seats. I think they said something about this guy being from the af base? or air force academy... Yeah, they already had a guy on fox saying that people shouldn't be able to carry bags in movies anymore, no more dressing up, or bringing in items like a broomstick to a harry potter movie because "you could hide a rifle under a broomstick" yeah, that was actually said. The guy said starting tomorrow you could see security buffed up at large theaters.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 09:09:30 AM
How many times would you have to reload to kill or injure over 60 people ?????? Where can I get one of these magic guns? Come on please!!! 12 or 15 round mags divided into 60, do the math. If I were alive I, would not wait for the guy to reload. Of course I would have probably shot him. Have you ever shot indoors with out hearing protection? It is very much louder then any movie speaker. You can feel the dramatic pressure wave and heat.
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: NYBasher23 July 20, 2012, 09:16:47 AM
The MSM in Denmark has this story:

http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/article.php/id-51982866:det-er-nemt-at-købe-våben-i-colorado.html




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"Det er nemt at købe våben i Colorado"

 Fredag d. 20. jul. 2012 kl. 13:18 af Natali Braagaard, Maria Bundgaardfor TV 2 Nyhederne (opd. d. 20/7 2012; 13:36)

Delstaten Colorado er endnu engang hjemsted for en massakre, ligesom det var tilfældet i 1999, da to elever gik amok og skød 13 personer på Columbine High School. Columbine ligger cirka 32 kilometer fra biografen "Century 16" i byen Aurora, hvor en mand i går aftes amerikansk tid gik amok og skød 14 personer.

At netop delstaten Colorado er hjemsted for flere massakre er ikke helt tilfældigt, siger TV 2's korrespondent, Jesper Steinmetz, der er på vej i sin bil til Aurora:

"Colorado er en af de stater, som har en meget liberal våbenlovgivning forstået på den måde, at det er meget nemt for borgerne at købe et automatvåben," siger Jesper Steinmetz.

Skyderiet vil uden tvivl starte en diskussion om, hvorvidt våbenlovgivningen skal strammes i USA, mener han.

"Andre vil fremføre, at det jo ikke i sig selv er våbnene, der slår mennesker ihjel - der skal mennesker til at betjene våbnene. Det er holdninger, som igen vil blive pudset af og komme til debat i USA," siger han.

Obama kommer med tv-udtalelse inden for kort tid
Jesper Steinmetz forventer, at den amerikanske præsident inden for de næste par timer vil komme med en udtalelse på live tv:

"Vi vil også høre hans modkandidat Mitt Romney. Republikanerne forsvarer til enhver tid retten til at bære våben for enhver pris, fordi det simpelthen er en del af den amerikanske forfatning - det er et helt afgørende element i den amerikanske selvforståelse, at man har retten til at forsvare sig selv," siger Jesper Steinmetz.



"It is easy to buy arms in Colorado"Friday 20th. Christmas. 2012 kl. 13: 18, Natali Braagaard, Maria Bundgaardfor TV 2 News (opd. d. 20/7 2012; 13: 36)The State of Colorado is once again home to a massacre, as was the case in 1999, when two students went berserk and shot 13 people at Columbine High School. Columbine is located about 32 kilometres from the cinema "Century 16" in the city of Aurora, where a man last night American time went berserk and shot 14 people.That is precisely the State of Colorado is home to several massacres are not arbitrarily, says TV 2 's correspondent, Jesper Steinmetz, who is on the road in his car to the Aurora:"Colorado is one of the States that have a very liberal firearms legislation, in the sense that it is very easy for people to buy an automatic weapon," says Jesper Steinmetz.The shooting will no doubt start a discussion about whether the weapons laws must be tightened in the United States, he said."Others will argue that it is not, in itself, is weapons, strikes people-to people to operate the weapons. It is attitudes, which in turn will be sent to sniff and get to the debate in the United States, "he said.Obama comes with tv opinion within a short timeJesper Steinmetz expects that the President of the United States within the next few hours will give an opinion on live tv:"We will also hear his presidential candidate Mitt Romney. Republicans are defending at any time the right to bear arms at any price, because it is simply a part of the US Constitution-it is an absolutely crucial element in the u.s. even understanding that one has the right to defend themselves, "says Jesper Steinmetz.



: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 09:19:28 AM
so now to sum it all up we have a single antigovernment, domestic terrorist, possible racist gunman from an air force base or vet. He has a magic gun or guns, tear gas, and a gas mask and shoots over 60 people that don't run and continue to watch the movie. Talk about an agenda setter.
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: HAZMAT July 20, 2012, 09:20:05 AM
How many times would you have to reload to kill or injure over 60 people ?????? Where can I get one of these magic guns? Come on please!!! 12 or 15 round mags divided into 60, do the math. If I were alive I, would not wait for the guy to reload. Of course I would have probably shot him. Have you ever shot indoors with out hearing protection? It is very much louder then any movie speaker. You can feel the dramatic pressure wave and heat.

Have you ever shot a shotgun or pistol, which is what the guy was using? Its loud but with like 13 speakers the size of cars blaring, its not that much louder... You don't feel a heat wave unless your are pretty close. The guy shot a dozen or 2 rounds, people were getting hit with bullets coming through the wall in the other theater. It was a packed movie, full house thats why so many people were hit, are you implying the eyewitnesses were lying or what? These were dumb ass kids that don't know shit about guns either, even if they should, they didn't.  He had 2 weapons, thats why he didn't have to reload.


I know how this will be used, but I don't doubt the story from the witnesses...
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: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 09:22:38 AM

  Aurora, Colorado is so close to Columbine High School and the Denver Airport and whatever else is out there in Denver and the surrounding area.  You gotta think about these kind of things.  And the UN wants to destroy the 2nd Amendment.
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: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 09:24:25 AM

 http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html

Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater

  VIDEO AT THE LINK
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: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/dark-knight-shooting-to-be-exploited-for-political-grist.html

  LIVE FEED OF DENVER TV CHANNEL AT PRISONPLANET.COM
  EVENT HAPPENED ABOUT 7 HOURS AGO--15 TO 30 MINUTES INTO THE MOVIE.


‘Dark Knight’ Shooting To Be Exploited For Political Grist
                   
Second amendment, ‘conspiracy theorists’ to be blamed for incident
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, July 20, 2012
Within hours of the tragic shooting in Aurora, Colorado at a screening of the new Batman movie, the political machine is already gearing up to exploit the incident as a tool to demonize the second amendment and characterize Americans who are against big government as extremists.

A 6ft tall man dressed in black body armor and wearing a gas mask burst through an emergency exit door at the theater during a midnight screening of ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ Batman movie, before making his way up the stairs and shooting people at random, according to reports.
The man also apparently set off a smoke or tear gas bomb, killing at least 14 people and injuring dozens more.
The gunman was arrested and early reports suggested an accomplice was still on the run, but police now say there was only one shooter.
“A 24-year-old suspect in is custody and an apartment building in north Aurora connected to the suspect was being evacuated and searched for possible explosives, ” reports the Denver Post.
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

A possible motive for the shooting – bizarre as it sounds – is that, “the gunman carried out the shooting because the new Batman movie was sold out,” according to local reports.
Observers following news reports about the incident have already noticed that the tragedy is being exploited to demonize Americans suspicious of federal authority – noting that the villain in ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ is an anti-establishment character.
“They’re claiming that since the villain in the movie was “rising up” against authorities that’s what this guy may have been doing,” writes Brandon Nolley.
Others fear that the shooter will be labeled a “conspiracy theorist” and used to portray so-called “truthers” as violent extremists.
“I have a feeling he’s going to be a “extremist” with “Conspiracy theorist” views, may be he even saw Alex’s review of the movie,” writes Evan Munn. “They are going to parade out the children’s bodies like OKC.”
Others note that the mass shooting coincides with a UN arms treaty that threatens to grease the skids for a total gun ban in the United States. It’s inevitable that the event will be used to demonize the second amendment.
“The UN treaty will save us,” comments Michael Rozycki.
Every time there is a mass shooting in the United States, the establishment uses it to demonize its political adversaries.
The most recent example was the Jared Lee Loughner case. After Loughner shot Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, the media instantly launched a smear campaign insinuating that Loughner’s political beliefs were shared by conservatives and libertarians. In reality, Loughner turned out to be a pot smoking left-winger who had dabbled in the occult.
*********************
Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show and Infowars Nightly News.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 09:32:38 AM
I have shot many times and been in a shooting range while others have been shooting I know the feeling very well sir, it is not something you can ignore even many feet away. To kill people in another theater with a hand gun or shotgun is highly improbable he would have to be using slugs and or magnums or a rifle.  At least with a shotgun at close range you could wound many people, if they were close and compacted together. Although with a shotgun it would be imposable to ignore.
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: IridiumKEPfactor July 20, 2012, 09:35:08 AM
What ever happend. If it be a spoiled brat 24 loser who uses drugs (street or perscription) that got mad because the theaters were sold out

Or it be a guy handled by black op controllers. This is not good for the 2nd Amendment and it allows the administration to grand stand and visit Colorado and be an emotional and political vampire feeding off of the communities' pain.


Thinking to myself, wishing someone would call a Aurora or Denver news station and say that they knew the guy and they he bragged that people don't have guns and that he loved Obama and drones and the TSA, and he wish that the NWO would just drop the hammer and start rounding up people in camps and that he hated the constitition.     But we know that won't happen...    ::)

Now we've got to watch footage of cops dressed up in swat gear and the sherrif's dept drive around their APC on TV in Aurora now.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 09:36:51 AM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/dark-knight-shooting-to-be-exploited-for-political-grist.html

  LIVE FEED.  Hospital spokesman talking now.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: IridiumKEPfactor July 20, 2012, 09:37:54 AM
http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx (http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx)  from posts above.

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: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 09:44:48 AM
http://www.drudgereport.com/

        HEADLINES FROM DRUDGE


Suspect Identified: James Holmes, 24, white, only contact with police was traffic ticket in 2011...
Suspect's Mother: 'You have the right person'...
Mass Murder Scene Unfolds At Colorado Movie Theater...
Shooter 'masked, clad in black'...
'Rifle, handgun, gas mask'...
Made his way up aisle...
Shot anyone trying to leave...
People seated 'began coughing, having difficulty breathing'...
PANIC...
Cellphone footage shows aftermath...
VIDEO: Survivors Recount Horror...
LIVE UPDATES...
WARNER BROS 'Deeply Saddened'...
'Society seduced by sadism'...
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 09:47:46 AM
Better buy a keltec KSG before they are all banned! That is if you can get one. This also helps with the recent attempt to ban most shotguns. With a KSG you can have 14+1 rounds in a bullpup configuration.

Ok WTF, was it a rifle or a shot gun????????/
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: NYBasher23 July 20, 2012, 09:49:31 AM
Here's the reporting of this story throughout the world:

RT America:

http://rt.com/usa/news/colorado-shooting-gunman-identified-aurora-batman-685/

Al Jazeera English:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/07/20127209345105689.html

The Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/20/masked-gunman-batman-screening-denver?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 09:50:51 AM


  Reporter saying the info is going all the way to the White House.
: I wonder if the scene looked like this inside the theater?
: KazKru July 20, 2012, 09:56:51 AM
Sounds to me like an Illuminati blood sacrifice to kick off the one week countdown to the opening of the London Olympics.

(http://usahitman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Denver32.jpg)
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: IridiumKEPfactor July 20, 2012, 10:04:17 AM
http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/57333/shock-video-man-dressed-as-the-batman-villian-bane-breaks-into-theater-tear-gasses-audience-then-opens-fire-warning-graphic.html (http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/57333/shock-video-man-dressed-as-the-batman-villian-bane-breaks-into-theater-tear-gasses-audience-then-opens-fire-warning-graphic.html)

The gunman was named as Aurora resident James Holmes, by FBI and Department of Homeland Security sources.

So far 12 people have died of gunshot wounds. An MTOer who was IN THE THEATER tells us that the man was dressed like the villian of the Batman movie BANE.



An MOTer is just someone who is a vistor to the site Media TakeOut but sends them info/content just like people who post on World Star HipHop. Citizen witness/Citizen journalist.


White male wearing Gas mask and body armor.

(http://i.mediatakeout.com/photo/134278757483d706c6db.jpg)
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 10:09:04 AM
some one else threw the gas canister? That is in fact a conspiracy and confirms planning if true.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: Tokiem July 20, 2012, 10:11:49 AM
 Aurora, Colorado is so close to Columbine High School and the Denver Airport and whatever else is out there in Denver and the surrounding area.  You gotta think about these kind of things.  And the UN wants to destroy the 2nd Amendment.

Is this yet another mind control SSRI fueled mass shooting exercise like the Jared Loughner event?
It seems to me there are some common and reoccurring elements similar to the Jared shooting event.
SSRI? + mind control? + suggestion progressive metal zombie music + gun violence + gun control agenda?


"His (Jared Loughner) now-deleted MySpace page had this message, which sheds a little more light:"

"Jared Loughner: Hey T-zueen. Do you remember - Fear Before the March of Flames concent with D-Rock, Ben Jizzet and J-Rad? I bet you f**kin do. Oh! That pole was physical... you know? Remember the cd cover? Ouch! Well I had to say it because it haunted me to this moment - peace hombre. f**k Pigs."

The first sentence refers to a progressive metal band Fear Before, formerly known as Fear Before The March of Flames. They're from Aurora, Colorado, in suburban Denver, just a short drive from Columbine High School.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/what_music_did_jared_loughner.php

Fear Before the March of Flames > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmkLQRp8htY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmkLQRp8htY)

http://ssristories.com/
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: NYBasher23 July 20, 2012, 10:19:51 AM
If the guy is from Aurora, Colorado, how come the local PD or sherriff didn't identify him? Seems awful co-incidental that federally run FBI & HLS are the ones identifying him. Just a thought. I've gotten to notice this stuff more & more since I've been following Alex Jones & others.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: KazKru July 20, 2012, 10:20:29 AM
Is this yet another mind control SSRI fueled mass shooting exercise like the Jared Loughner event?
It seems to me there are some common and reoccurring elements similar to the Jared shooting event.
SSRI? + mind control? + suggestion progressive metal zombie music + gun violence + gun control agenda?


"His (Jared Loughner) now-deleted MySpace page had this message, which sheds a little more light:"

"Jared Loughner: Hey T-zueen. Do you remember - Fear Before the March of Flames concent with D-Rock, Ben Jizzet and J-Rad? I bet you f**kin do. Oh! That pole was physical... you know? Remember the cd cover? Ouch! Well I had to say it because it haunted me to this moment - peace hombre. f**k Pigs."

The first sentence refers to a progressive metal band Fear Before, formerly known as Fear Before The March of Flames. They're from Aurora, Colorado, in suburban Denver, just a short drive from Columbine High School.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/what_music_did_jared_loughner.php

Fear Before the March of Flames > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmkLQRp8htY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmkLQRp8htY)

http://ssristories.com/

Of course "Aurora", where the shooter is from, is a reference to the Sun.  And, of course, we all know the Sun is the biggest occult/Illuminati/Masonic reference there is.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
The guy just walks away and stands by his car to wait for arrest? If you a deranged enough to kill children you would be messed up enough to kill yourself. WTF??????
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 10:27:58 AM
The guy just walks away and stands by his car to wait for arrest? If you a deranged enough to kill children you would be messed up enough to kill yourself. WTF??????

  Sounds like SSRI's.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: HAZMAT July 20, 2012, 10:30:05 AM
  Sounds like SSRI's.

I agree, will be an anti-gov't type on drugs with mental illness... Just wait till 11:20 when the press conference happens. Then 2 weeks later gun control legislation at the least... Armed guards, police, buffed security, searches at movies and malls at worst...
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: empire July 20, 2012, 10:30:27 AM
This has to be an op, as no one could shoot that many people in such a short time. Once again a magic "super human" shoots a ton of people in a time even an Olympic shooter could no do. Once again people report multiple suspects, and once again the officials narrow it down to just one person. This is getting old but people still fall for it. Was there no camera phones at this event, or were people to busy running to care? Where dose one get a gas canister? This screams of being too well planned to be just one psychotic individual. Once again "guns" will be blamed because one gun can kill and injure over 60 people in under a few minutes. It reinforces peoples fear of the magic object that can destroy an entire crowded in the hands on just one person. This is just in time for the U.N. treaty, must be a coincidence. MY ASS!

He had an AK-47 -- they can kill plenty of people in a very short period of time.
But it's all speculation as this point, let's wait an see who and what this guy is.

Guaranteed though that the powers that be and puppet Obama will use this to attack the second amendment. The timing couldn't be better for these bastards.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 10:32:12 AM
I agree, will be an anti-gov't type on drugs with mental illness... Just wait till 11:20 when the press conference happens. Then 2 weeks later gun control legislation at the least... Armed guards, police, buffed security, searches at movies and malls at worst...

  And if you go to movies, you will be welcomed by the TSA.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: Optimus July 20, 2012, 10:33:04 AM
FLASHBACK: Alex Jones Predicted ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Would Cause Trouble
http://www.infowars.com/flashback-alex-jones-predicted-dark-knight-rises-would-cause-trouble/

Infowars.com
Friday, July 20, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=50ryV1_lxF8

In a video review for the movie, Alex Jones predicted how the violent themes in the film could lead to terror in the real world.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: themadness July 20, 2012, 10:35:57 AM
a yahoo news story had a link to a local tv station report that it was RUMORED he tossed out the smoke bombs when the same thing was happening in the movie.

if thats true how did he know when that particular scene was going to be played???
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 10:36:39 AM
FLASHBACK: Alex Jones Predicted ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Would Cause Trouble
http://www.infowars.com/flashback-alex-jones-predicted-dark-knight-rises-would-cause-trouble/

Infowars.com
Friday, July 20, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=50ryV1_lxF8

In a video review for the movie, Alex Jones predicted how the violent themes in the film could lead to terror in the real world.

  Alex has a 6th sense about this kind of stuff.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 11:05:38 AM
http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/warner-bros-paired-dark-knight-rises-with-trailer-of-gangster-shooting-up-movie-theater-which-studio-didnt-take-down-until-i-complained/   


  video at the link


HORRIBLE! Warner Bros Paired ‘Dark Knight Rises’ With Trailer Of Gangster Shooting Up Movie Theater (…Which Studio Didn’t Take Down Until I Complained)

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 11:07:21 AM
Witness statements threw up red flags.

Someone let another person in through the emergency exit 20 min before the shooter came in. Did they block the door open?

The witness said the gas canister came from behind, suggesting a second suspect. This coincided with a gas scene in the movie? could happen if the other person was waiting for the right moment(preplanned).

Suspect calmly walks to his car an waits. might be drugs but it seems like something else is going on also. And how could it be planned and carried out in precise detail detail if it were the drugs that were at fault? He even planned enough far enough ahead to make booby traps for his car and apartment. Awful lot of planning, forethought, and time to be blamed on just drugs you think?

Accomplices? Who left the emergency exit open(how did he know it would be open?) and who threw the grenade?
: Re: I wonder if the scene looked like this inside the theater?
: CheneysWorstNightmare July 20, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
Sounds to me like an Illuminati blood sacrifice to kick off the one week countdown to the opening of the London Olympics.

Good call.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: Guns Equal Freedom July 20, 2012, 11:26:04 AM
FLASHBACK: Alex Jones Predicted ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Would Cause Trouble
http://www.infowars.com/flashback-alex-jones-predicted-dark-knight-rises-would-cause-trouble/

Infowars.com
Friday, July 20, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=50ryV1_lxF8

In a video review for the movie, Alex Jones predicted how the violent themes in the film could lead to terror in the real world.

How about a violent culture in general fed by a violent media, violent books, violent movies, violent radio, violent TV, and a lot of other things too.
: Re: I wonder if the scene looked like this inside the theater?
: Guns Equal Freedom July 20, 2012, 11:31:44 AM
The suspect's apartment has a booby trap in it, and they are going to explode it. Well, there goes all the evidence.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: America2 July 20, 2012, 11:32:45 AM
How about a violent culture in general feed by a violent media, books, movies, radio, TV, and a lot of other things too.

Way back in 1990, I took my aunt to "Total Recall", and she had to cover her eyes quite a bit. Even my parents wanted to stay away from this movie.

Fast-forward to 2008 with the previous "Dark Knight" movie - I can honestly say that the level of violence in this "PG-13" movie is about the same as the level of violence we saw in the 1990's "R" rated "Total Recall". Even some of Sylvestor Stallone movies in the 80's like "Tango and Cash" and "Rambo" didn't have the same level of violence as these current Batman movies.

Gone are the days of those pro-family/moral majority groups that would get in the public's eye to hold the entertainment media accountable(ie-remember Columbine in 1999). No, I was never a fan of them, and they are opposition-controlled. But nonetheless, you just don't see these "activist groups" anymore nowdays, and alot of what we see in the entertainment media is acceptable almost everywhere in society now.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Geolibertarian July 20, 2012, 11:36:54 AM
Like always, determining what actually happened will be a process of eliminating one possible explanation after another until only one remains.

And as we all know, the first explanation to be eliminated is whichever one the banker-owned (http://www.infowars.com/top-senate-democrat-bankers-own-the-us-congress/) "U.S." government and its parrots in the talking point media (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7F9iN5zCu0) tell us to blindly accept as divine gospel, under penalty of being labeled a "conspiracy theorist (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161407.0)."

"I got this real moron thing I do, it's called thinking. And I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions. I don't just roll over when I'm told to. Sad to say, most Americans just roll over on command. Not me. I have certain rules I live by. My first rule: I don't believe anything the government tells me. Nothing! Zero!"

-- George Carlin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMT3yewtmw)
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: Guns Equal Freedom July 20, 2012, 11:46:59 AM
Way back in 1990, I took my aunt to "Total Recall", and she had to cover her eyes quite a bit. Even my parents wanted to stay away from this movie.

Fast-forward to 2008 with the previous "Dark Knight" movie - I can honestly say that the level of violence in this "PG-13" movie is about the same as the level of violence we saw in the 1990's "R" rated "Total Recall". Even some of Sylvestor Stallone movies in the 80's like "Tango and Cash" and "Rambo" didn't have the same level of violence as these current Batman movies.

Gone are the days of those pro-family/moral majority groups that would get in the public's eye to hold the entertainment media accountable(ie-remember Columbine in 1999). No, I was never a fan of them, and they are opposition-controlled. But nonetheless, you just don't see these "activist groups" anymore nowdays, and alot of what we see in the entertainment media is acceptable almost everywhere in society now.

Actually, if I am not mistaken. They did change what is considered PG-13 in today's standard of movies. What was considered too much bad language, sex, and context has been changed. It would have been an R movie back then.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 11:49:56 AM
When something like this happens I like to know what else is happening that we don't see, as all our attention is focused in one place right now. Watch out for misdirection not just the psy-op.
: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: MonkeyPuppet July 20, 2012, 11:51:30 AM

Actually, if I am not mistaken. They did change what is considered PG-13 in today's standard of movies. What was considered too much bad language, sex, and context has been changed. It would have been an R movie back then.


Yes, because it should be left to the movie industry itself, regulated by government, to dictate what is acceptable for your children ::)

Movies, music, TV and news doesn't somehow magically make people commit violent felonies against others.  For those who are not otherwise nutjobs regardless, I'd blame parenting before I'd blame some arbitrary nonsense dictated by a bureaucrat.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 20, 2012, 12:06:15 PM
When something like this happens I like to know what else is happening that we don't see, as all our attention is focused in one place right now. Watch out for misdirection not just the psy-op.

What else we have 'happening' is the UN pressuring congress to disarm the American people.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Valerius July 20, 2012, 12:12:55 PM
"Theater survivors tweeted during Dark Knight Rises shooting in Colo."


© 2012 United Press International, Inc. All Rights Reserved.


 

Read more: http://www.upi.com/blog/2012/07/20/Theater-survivors-tweeted-during-Dark-Knight-Rises-shooting-in-Colo/1701342797600/#ixzz21BDOW3m7
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: DireWolf July 20, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
U.N., Banker, staged F.F. end of discussion. Going to be used to promote U.N. gun grab.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 12:17:53 PM
What else we have 'happening' is the UN pressuring congress to disarm the American people.

yep and this too:

Syrian defense minister was killed in an attack in Damascus in Aleppo in Syria on July 19, 2012. UPI/Khaled Tallawy

there is a lot they could use this as cover for just saying.......
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 12:22:40 PM
Shock and Awe! Welcome VIPR teams!

There will be no details released about this suspect. Exact weapons, number of rounds how come no reloads, how he got through the emergency exit door. This will be due to “privacy” concerns or will be “under investigation” forever. There may or may not be a trial lined up with a determined outcome. Media only reports arrest and conviction. No details in between will be made public.

Packed theater, at midnight, zero CCW holders. Zero cell phone recordings.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Captain Reject July 20, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
And now the celebrities joined the gun control band wagon.

http://twitchy.com/2012/07/20/comedian-d-l-hughley-tweets-gun-control-rant-after-aurora-movie-shooting/


And just so you all know this guy was a former member of the Bloods, a very notorious and violent gang in LA.

http://www.biography.com/people/dl-hughley-17169492

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 20, 2012, 12:27:26 PM
"Theater survivors tweeted during Dark Knight Rises shooting in Colo."


© 2012 United Press International, Inc. All Rights Reserved.


 

Read more: http://www.upi.com/blog/2012/07/20/Theater-survivors-tweeted-during-Dark-Knight-Rises-shooting-in-Colo/1701342797600/#ixzz21BDOW3m7

I'm sure people did.  Were tweets ALSO part of the false flag?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Geolibertarian July 20, 2012, 12:50:13 PM
Here's a term that the liberty movement must start employing ad nauseum when countering the Stalinist propaganda of the corporate-whore media:

     Blame-freedom-firsters!

We must start calling these tragedy-exploiting control-freaks calling for a global fascist dictatorship what they really are.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Valerius July 20, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
Somehow this seems an important statement.


Colorado Batman Movie Shooting Suspect Was PhD Student


" I'm never going to forget this night at all. Because it was the first time I saw something that was real. Like a real-life nightmare that was there, not dreaming of," Ramos told ABC News today."

Copyright © 2012 ABC News Internet Ventures. Yahoo! - ABC News Network

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aurora-colo-batman-shooter-james-holmes-phd-student/story?id=16817842
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 20, 2012, 12:58:42 PM
Somehow this seems an important statement.


Colorado Batman Movie Shooting Suspect Was PhD Student


" I'm never going to forget this night at all. Because it was the first time I saw something that was real. Like a real-life nightmare that was there, not dreaming of," Ramos told ABC News today."

Copyright © 2012 ABC News Internet Ventures. Yahoo! - ABC News Network

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aurora-colo-batman-shooter-james-holmes-phd-student/story?id=16817842

This IS what is obvious.
This shooter is EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY!

He's a Tea party... Now he's a democrat... Now he's a Blood.... Now he's a Phd... NEXT...

This is classic psyop 101 crap.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: empire July 20, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
Folks.

As tempting as it is to jump to conclusions that fit in with our own views, we need to wait a little before making conclusive comments.

There are also just crazy people out there, and as coincidental as this is, it could just be that, a coincidence.
Not everything is linked to the NWO, even if it seems like it fits in perfectly.

Just sayin' ;)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TonkaTim July 20, 2012, 01:09:31 PM
The international Business Times is reporting that the local police is now looking for a second shooter.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/365162/20120720/aurora-dark-knight-rises-batman-colorado-denver.htm

"Local media report that two gunmen went on the rampage, both wearing gas masks. One of the gunmen is now in custody, and police are searching for the other."
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
There’s that instantaneous LE reaction-time thing again.

Moviegoer William Kent told CBS "This Morning" he was in theater 8, next door to the theater where the shooting happened.

"There was a lot going on in the soundtrack of the movie at that time. So in the beginning, I don't think people realized what was happening," he said.

Kent said he saw pieces of the wall fall out, apparently as shots came through, and the emergency alarm went off. The theater told people to leave.

"There was huge commotion to get out of the theater and when I exited, there were police with assault rifles running in."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/witness-colo-gunman-shot-anyone-trying-leave

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Tokiem July 20, 2012, 01:15:02 PM
This is another SSRI MKULTRA mind control staged false flag shooting event to demonize the Second Amendment and the possession of arms by law abiding citizens.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 20, 2012, 01:17:10 PM

DIA Mural
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1zn4hw5.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/334td7m.jpg) ...  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=102212.0)

Interesting this happens after the end of Bohemian Grove 2012  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234234.0) ....
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: JConner July 20, 2012, 01:21:46 PM
First the mass shooting with a 'military style assault rifle' in Alabama, then this... and the UN Disarmament Treaty in the works as we speak... yeah, nothing to see here, move along folks!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: JConner July 20, 2012, 01:24:28 PM
Military personnel at theater, wounded...

http://www.nationaljournal.com/reports-military-members-injured-in-colorado-shooting-20120720

: Re: mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at batman premiere
: America2 July 20, 2012, 01:25:52 PM
Actually, if I am not mistaken. They did change what is considered PG-13 in today's standard of movies. What was considered too much bad language, sex, and context has been changed. It would have been an R movie back then.

Again, you would have thought the religious right/moral majority/pro-family groups would be all over this from the get-go. After Columbine in 1999, they were very active for over 2 years(the MSM even went as far as saying watching Bugs Bunny would make kids violent)...but this all changed after 9/11 happened. No longer were movie theaters "tightening their securities"(among other nonsense). It was as if the whole 2.5 years was nothing but a temporary dream.

Also, even more disturbing, after Columbine, was when Hollywood quietly started to slip in alot of these heavy witchcraft movies like "The Sixth Sense"(which was released only a few months after and became a sleeper blockbuster hit), "Harry Potter", and "Twilight", all of which have bewitched the younger demographics, in particular.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 20, 2012, 01:26:46 PM
Folks.

As tempting as it is to jump to conclusions that fit in with our own views, we need to wait a little before making conclusive comments.

There are also just crazy people out there, and as coincidental as this is, it could just be that, a coincidence.
Not everything is linked to the NWO, even if it seems like it fits in perfectly.

Just sayin' ;)

I Disagree and yet Agree.

There are crazy people and if we have a complete economic collapse you haven't seen NOTHING yet.

I'm in no way buying that this is ANYTHING but a psy-warfare operation, perhaps even using a lone 'Boys Town'  / "Penn State" mind controlled sex toy Manchurian candidate.

The people who could run such an operation are centered right in Denver at the threat fusion center, the media's predictable pre-scripted reaction, the big smoking gun, the UN just NOW pushing gun control on the USA... the pattern we've seen over and over is right on que too be just yet another coincidence.

If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck...

-Just say'n
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: EvadingGrid July 20, 2012, 01:27:20 PM
Interesting this happens after the end of Bohemian Grove 2012  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234234.0) ....

 ;D
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 2Revolutions July 20, 2012, 01:31:42 PM
Colorado shootings suspect: Who is James Holmes?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/07/colorado-shootings-suspect-who-is-james-holmes/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/07/colorado-shootings-suspect-who-is-james-holmes/1)

The Associated Press reports that Holmes began a program in neurosciences at the University of Colorado in the fall of 2011, but withdrew last month.

University spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery confirmks Holmes was a graduate student at the school of medicine until last month. On May 8, he was scheduled to present a paper on MicroRNA biomarkers for a class on psychiatric and neurological disorders.

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: America2 July 20, 2012, 01:41:42 PM
Colorado shooting: Security increased at some USA theaters showing 'Dark Knight Rises'
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_21120251/colorado-shooting-security-increased-at-theaters-showing-dark

ABC draws possible Tea Party connection with alleged Aurora shooter
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/aurora-abc-draws-possible-tea-party-connection-129568.html
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: America2 July 20, 2012, 01:42:47 PM
Colorado shootings suspect: Who is James Holmes?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/07/colorado-shootings-suspect-who-is-james-holmes/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/07/colorado-shootings-suspect-who-is-james-holmes/1)

The Associated Press reports that Holmes began a program in neurosciences at the University of Colorado in the fall of 2011, but withdrew last month.

University spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery confirmks Holmes was a graduate student at the school of medicine until last month. On May 8, he was scheduled to present a paper on MicroRNA biomarkers for a class on psychiatric and neurological disorders.



Not trying to make any kind of joke out of this - but unlike the other "shooters", he doesn't seem to have a middle name.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: bento July 20, 2012, 01:55:05 PM
I think that just applies to presidential assassins. Not mass group shooters.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Colorado shootings suspect: Who is James Holmes?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/07/colorado-shootings-suspect-who-is-james-holmes/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/07/colorado-shootings-suspect-who-is-james-holmes/1)

The Associated Press reports that Holmes began a program in neurosciences at the University of Colorado in the fall of 2011, but withdrew last month.

University spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery confirmks Holmes was a graduate student at the school of medicine until last month. On May 8, he was scheduled to present a paper on MicroRNA biomarkers for a class on psychiatric and neurological disorders.



Similarities?

Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for Bishop, a Harvard-trained biologist, who is charged with killing three University of Alabama in Huntsville biology faculty colleagues on Feb. 12, 2010. She also faces attempted murder charges for wounding three others in a shooting spree during an on-campus faculty meeting.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=159678.175

As of today, there STILL has been NO TRIAL for this. There have been plenty of gag orders for the attorneys, though.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
http://www.infowars.com/death-obsessed-culture-not-gun-rights-to-blame-for-batman-shooting/


  Alex Jones video at the link.  AJ does a great job again breaking this down.



Death-Obsessed Culture, Not Gun Rights, To Blame For ‘Batman’ Shooting
                    
Political opportunists seize upon tragedy to attack second amendment
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, July 20, 2012
Within hours of the tragic ‘Batman’ shooting in Aurora, Colorado, political opportunists have seized upon the incident to push for gun control, with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg demanding that both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama “stand up and tell us what they’re going to do about” mass shootings.

Exactly as we predicted in our earlier article, leftists have wasted no time in exploiting the actions of a lone lunatic for political grist, with Bloomberg calling on the two presidential candidates to crack down on gun rights.
We knew ghouls like Bloomberg would rush to exploit this tragedy to try and crush the right to self defense.
Quite how either Romney or Obama have the power to reverse a Hollywood-inspired culture that serves up lashings of violence to young people like turkey at Thanksgiving is anyone’s guess.
In addition, the notion that either of the presidential candidates can put a halt to a juggernaut pharmaceutical industry that doles out violence-causing SSRI drugs to youngsters like penny candy is clearly asinine.
“I mean, there’s so many murders with guns every day,” said Bloomberg. “It’s just gotta stop. And instead of these two people, President [Barack] Obama and Governor [Mitt] Romney talking in broad things about, they want to make the world a better place. OK. Tell us how. And this is a problem. No matter where you stand on the Second Amendment, no matter where you stand on guns, we have a right to hear from both of them, concretely, not just in generalities, specifically, what are they going to do about guns?” Bloomberg told WOR News Talk Radio 710.
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

Bloomberg was followed in his idiocy by CNN host and all-round smarm-merchant Piers Morgan, who in a series of tweets hastily seized upon the tragedy to promote his lust for disarming the general public.
“America has got to do something about its gun laws. Now is the time,” said Morgan.
“Lunatics like this will always try and get guns. It should be 100,000 times harder than it is for them to do so. That’s my point,” he added.
Perhaps the more fundamental question that needs to be asked as to why America keeps experiencing mass shootings, when as recently as twenty years ago they were few and far between, is to what extent our sick culture and entertainment industry is contributing to the general malaise and unfeeling psychosis that seems to have gripped the younger generations?
Why were there so few mass shootings just two decades ago compared to now? Has the number and availability of guns increased substantially? No. Is the sewer pipe we call Hollywood and the entertainment industry pumping out sicker, more nihilistic and more violence-strewn films than ever before? Yes.
As numerous observers have noted, the recent Batman films have contained unnerving amounts of violence that seem to serve little purpose other than to appease a bloodthirsty craving for gore and brutality amongst young people, who have had such sickness foisted upon them through movies, entertainment, video games and popular music.
As Jenny McCartney notes in the Telegraph, we have been turned into a society seduced by sadism.
This sadism is also more accessible to children and young people than ever before. Many people today are asking what a 6-year-old child was doing at a midnight screening of a movie?
In addition, the fact that these kind of movies are able to generate such a level of suspended disbelief that victims thought the shooting was initially part of the movie, is a shocking example of how much power the big screen has to warp minds.
It’s also now come to light that Warner Bros paired the Batman movie with a trailer for a film which shows “a gangster with a machine gun shooting up people in a movie theater from behind the big screen.”
Once again, before we even know anything about the 24-year-old shooter James Holmes, the establishment media and leftist political operatives are rushing to denounce gun rights as the culprit behind the tragedy, once again failing to address the underlying root cause – a sadistic, death obsessed culture that allows young men to be drawn into bizarre fantasy worlds where violence is seen as an alluring adventure.

*********************
Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show and Infowars Nightly News.


: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 02:58:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxevkqQJxPk


  Alex's video at the link

      Dark Knight Massacre To Pass UN Gun Ban?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: IridiumKEPfactor July 20, 2012, 03:00:21 PM
RE: Alex reading email from a watcher who was watching the live feeds from this morning.

I was watching the same feed before my damn comuter was hit by a trojan and crashed, took me 5 hours to recover it. Anyway.

The witness who said he saw a man on a cell phone and open the fire exit door is Black Male with a red girly looking tank top on that looks a little "light in the loffers." This is a key witness and hopefully someone was DVRing the video. This witness saw someone let the shooter in.

again the witness a medium height stocky build young black male with a red girly tank top on witnessed a person on a cell phone open the movie theater door.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: larsonstdoc July 20, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL52hIxA2h4&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=1&feature=plcp


  Charlie Daniels and AJ---breaking this down on a video
  Charlie is fully awake and full of knowledge.


  Charlie Daniels: You Wanna Do Gun Control, Start with The DOJ!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: HAZMAT July 20, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
What else we have 'happening' is the UN pressuring congress to disarm the American people.

Iran and Israel???!?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman July 20, 2012, 03:25:09 PM
shooting possibly copies scene from 1986 comic, The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/batman-movie-shooting-imitated-from-scene-in-1985-comic/article/2502701 (http://washingtonexaminer.com/batman-movie-shooting-imitated-from-scene-in-1985-comic/article/2502701)

The horrific shooting at the screening of The Dark Knight Rises in Colorado late last night bears eerie similarities to a scene in the 1986 comic Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. In the comic, a crazed, gun-toting loner walks into a movie theater and begins shooting it up, killing three in the process. The passage concludes with the media blaming Batman for inspiring the shooting, though he is not involved in the incident at all.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/zl5dzo.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Freelancer July 20, 2012, 04:03:34 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947

I'm interested in his history. Med students typically don't have the engineering know- how to trap a doss like that.

What's more, how a med student was able to afford a semiauto rifle, pistol, shot gun, and where he had access to tear gas grenades and kevlar. This is a $10k+ operation before the explosives.

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: empire July 20, 2012, 04:22:01 PM
I Disagree and yet Agree.

There are crazy people and if we have a complete economic collapse you haven't seen NOTHING yet.

I'm in no way buying that this is ANYTHING but a psy-warfare operation, perhaps even using a lone 'Boys Town'  / "Penn State" mind controlled sex toy Manchurian candidate.

The people who could run such an operation are centered right in Denver at the threat fusion center, the media's predictable pre-scripted reaction, the big smoking gun, the UN just NOW pushing gun control on the USA... the pattern we've seen over and over is right on que too be just yet another coincidence.

If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck...

-Just say'n

I hear you.. almost like it was scripted.
Well I'll hold judgement for now though, need to flesh this out a bit more.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 20, 2012, 04:22:29 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947

I'm interested in his history. Med students typically don't have the engineering know- how to trap a doss like that.

What's more, how a med student was able to afford a semiauto rifle, pistol, shot gun, and where he had access to tear gas grenades and kevlar. This is a $10k+ operation before the explosives.

He had to drop out of school, so he could focus on a covert false flag mkultra type operation and money just falls from the trees when you are targeted for one of these operations....

Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=216662.0)

Remember Judge Rolls and Congrewoman Gifford:

Assassins murder anti-Safeway Amendment Federal Judge at a Safeway Store (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=197561.0)

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/14/arizona.shooting.investigation/index.html?hpt=T2
January 14, 2011
Kastigar added that investigators are now certain that Loughner acted alone.
A "person of interest" they sought immediately after the shooting turned out to be the taxi driver who dropped off the suspect at the shopping center, Kastigar said.

For comparison:

14 Dead in NY-Jiverly Voong is a confirmed PATSY-Killers still on the loose  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=97188.0)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binghamton_shootings

The Binghamton shootings took place on Friday, April 3, 2009, at the American Civic Association immigration center in Binghamton, New York, United States. At approximately 10:30 a.m. EDT, a naturalized immigrant Jiverly Antares Wong (aka Jiverly Voong)[3][4][5] entered the facility and shot numerous people inside.[6] Fourteen people were ultimately confirmed dead, including the shooter,[2] and four were wounded.[3][7] The injured people, aged from twenty to mid-fifties, were treated for gunshot wounds at Wilson Medical Center in Johnson City and Our Lady of Lourdes Memorial Hospital in Binghamton.[8][9]

The American Civic Association in Binghamton provides citizenship, cultural, and language assistance to the local immigrant community.[10]
...
Several days after the incident, an envelope was received by Syracuse, New York, TV station News 10 Now.[29] It was dated March 18, 2009, and postmarked April 3, 2009, the day of the shootings.[41] The three stamps used for the postage were a liberty bell and two purple hearts.[29]

The package contained a two-page handwritten letter; photos of Wong, seen holding guns while smiling; a gun permit, and Wong's driver's license.[29]

 In the letter text, various motivational details are apparently revealed, but the bulk of the letter is a rambling diatribe against the police, detailing the author's perceived persecution ...

http://www.cbs3springfield.com/news/local/42416782.html
Motive for Mass Murder in NY

Police Chief Joseph Zikuski told NBC's "Today" that people "degraded and disrespected" the gunman over his poor English. Mayor Matthew Ryan, speaking on ABC's "Good Morning America," said the man, believed to be 42-year-old Vietnamese immigrant Jiverly Voong, was angry about his language issues and his lack of employment.
...
A string of attacks in the U.S. in the last month left 44 people dead in all.

A gunman killed 10 people and himself in Samson, Ala.;
shootings that began with a traffic stop in Oakland, Calif., left four police officers and the gunman dead;
an apparent murder-suicide in Santa Clara, Calif., left six dead;
and a gunman went on a rampage at a nursing home Sunday, killing seven elderly residents and a nurse who cared for them

Fast and Furious connection brought up by AJ and Wayne Madsen on tonights nightly news

Judge Roll and Con. Giffords were targeted because they were independently investigating the influx of weapons in the border area in 2009
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hardrain77 July 20, 2012, 04:50:03 PM
They've been running these sorts of black ops in other countries for decades now. 9/11 set the precedent that if they weren't afraid to run large scale operations, they certainly aren't afraid to shoot up a crowded theater.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 05:16:56 PM
Fox News: 4:06 to 4:08 ET witness testimony
-claimed that a possible accomplice propped the emergency door open for the gunman to later enter, some 20 minutes after the film started

The Fox anchor on the scene dismissed this witnesses testimony as fast as it was given, although the Fox desk anchor made a point to bring up the possible accomplice at the end of the segment.  This does of course corroberate earlier reports of an accomplice - perhaps even a second gunman.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 05:32:04 PM
CO Chief of Police's, Oats, credibility is in serious question in light of several witnesses claims that there was indeed at the very least an accomplice.  Oats has clearly stated, contrary to multiple witnesses, that Holmes acted alone.

The nearly clairvoyant abilities of Chief Oats should be comended here.  Before deep laboratory forensics can be accomplished, Chief Oats has the insight to give us the narative and facts of the story. 

Even if Holmes entered through the theater, propped open the door himself then left to gear up in his car, then returns through the emergency door 20 minutes later, this is a relevant part of the investigation and every surviving person in that theater is a potential witness, and their testimony is court admissable evidence.  For example, if this is such a big event someone might have seen Holmes in his car gearing up, or in an alley near the emergency door or whatever, but to dismiss multiple witnesses out of hand does nothing but provoke more questions.   
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: James Redford July 20, 2012, 05:36:51 PM
On the July 20, 2012 Infowars radio show, Alex Jones mentioned a class of drugs which can turn a person into a complete mind-controlled slave.

The class of these drugs is muscarinic acetylcholine receptor antagonists. The most infamous drug in this class is scopolamine.

The following previous post by me provides a lot of information on scopolamine.

Re: John P. Wheeler III, CFR Member, Mitre Corporation Consultant Assassinated
Reply #45 on: January 05, 2011, 01:42:12 AM
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=197011.40

Based upon the below two eyewitness reports, it sounds like John P. Wheeler III was dosed with scopolamine, which is the drug of choice by intelligence agencies and Colombian criminals in order to induce a zombie-like state in their victims whereby the victim will follow any order when the dosage is right. Intelligence agencies use it for various purposes, such as a truth serum, to create a patsy, and/or for blackmail by getting the victim to engage in blackmailable activities (including killing another person) that they would have never otherwise engaged in and recording it.

The eyewitness Kathleen Boyer specifically mentioned that Wheeler had red eyes, which in addition to the delirium both she and eyewitness Iman Goldsborough report is one of the side-effects of scopolamine (as scopolamine dries out the mucous membranes).

High-dose scopolamine can induce delirium that lasts for days. However, one can be seemingly coherent and articulate while in the zombie-state depending on what stage of the intoxication one is in.

Both eyewitnesses report that Wheeler told them that he had been robbed. Goldsborough specifically reported that Wheeler told her that his briefcase had been stolen.

Wheeler was wondering around Wilmington, Delaware after he had apparently been robbed, and doing so in a delirious state. This raises the question of how he was killed. If he was indeed intentionally murdered, why would the person(s) who seemingly drugged and robbed him (and possibly did more with him) let him go free to wonder around Wilmington only to pick him up later to murder him? Did Wheeler gain enough consciousness to relize he was in danger and manage to escape, with his escape facilitated by his assailants not expecting it due to his drugged state? Perhaps he managed to get far enough away from them before they realized he was gone such that it took them awhile to find him once they realized he had escaped.

Another possibility is that Wheeler wasn't killed intentionally. It was cold in Wilmington during that time, and Goldsborough mentioned that Wheeler didn't have a coat. Perhaps Wheeler, in his delirious state, crawled into a dumster to try to get warm, and either died by being crushed by the garbage truck or eventually died due to exposure and/or complications of untreated scopolamine overdose (since many people in Colombia die from being dosed with scopolamine). If this is the case, then perhaps Wheeler's assailants had already gotten what they wanted from him and simply let him go; or, Wheeler did escape, and his assailants couldn't find him.

Eyewitness Iman Goldsborough:

Exclusive: Witness In John Wheeler Case
Authorities Won't Say How John P. Wheeler III Died
Fox 29 (WTXF-TV, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania)
January 4, 2011
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/010411-exclusive%3A-witness-in-john-wheeler-case , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVOvejdN
http://media2.myfoxphilly.com/video/2011/01/04/claudiaupdate11.flv , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVObzymy

Eyewitness Kathleen Boyer:

Fox 29 Interviews 2nd Wheeler Witness
Fox 29 (WTXF-TV, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania)
January 4, 2011
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/video/fox-29-interviews-wheeler-witness , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVP0C74Q
http://media2.myfoxphilly.com/video/2011/01/04/interview.flv , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVOonZji

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Below is the Wikipedia article on delirium:

Delirium
30 December 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Delirium&oldid=405035810

Scopolamine use to be used to induce so-called Twilight Sleep for childbirth:

Twilight sleep
19 July 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Twilight_sleep&oldid=374248772

Regarding scopolamine's side-effect of red eyes, see the following two sources:

SCOPOLAMINE (Topical) (Patch
http://www.healthdigest.org/topics/category/6348-scopolamine-drug-and-prescription-information-side-effects-use-and-dosage

SCOPOLAMINE - National Library of Medicine HSDB Database
http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+4074

The best report on the criminal elements' use of scopolamine in Colombia is the following one by VBS.tv:

Colombian Devil's Breath 1 of 2
Ryan Duffy
VBS.tv (Vice)
July 23, 2007
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/vbs-news/colombian-devil-s-breath-1-of-2

Colombian Devil's Breath 2 of 2
Ryan Duffy
VBS.tv (Vice)
July 23, 2007
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/vbs-news/colombian-devil-s-breath-2-of-2

Apparently Russian intelligence uses the code-name SP-117 for scopolamine (complete amnesia of events that occured while under the drug is a common effect, with this effect being dosage-dependent; to the person so affected, after they come-to it can seem to them that they had become extremely tired and fell asleep, when in actuality they were still seemingly awake to others):

Truth drug
Wikipedia
26 December 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Truth_drug&oldid=404354704

""
Russia

A defector from the biological weapons department 12 of the KGB "illegals" (S) directorate (presently a part of Russian SVR service) claimed that a truth drug codenamed SP-117 was highly effective and has been widely used. According to him, "The 'remedy which loosens the tongue' has no taste, no smell, no colour, and no immediate side effects. And, most important, a person has no recollection of having the 'heart-to-heart talk'" and felt afterwards as if they suddenly fell asleep. Officers of the S directorate used the drug primarily to check the trustworthiness of their own illegal agents who operated overseas, including even heroes of the service, such as Vitaly Yurchenko.[14] According to Alexander Litvinenko, Russian presidential candidate Ivan Rybkin was drugged with the same substance by FSB agents during his alleged kidnapping.[15]

14. ^ Alexander Kouzminov Biological Espionage: Special Operations of the Soviet and Russian Foreign Intelligence Services in the West, Greenhill Books, 2006, ISBN 1-853-67646-2 [1].
15. ^ Alex Goldfarb and Marina Litvinenko. Death of a Dissident: The Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko and the Return of the KGB. New York: Free Press, 2007. ISBN 978-1416551652.
""

Regarding the politician Ivan Rybkin mentioned above, see the following news articles:

Rybkin mystery: Questions remain
Reuters
February 11, 2004
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/02/11/russia.rybkin.feature.reut/index.html

BBC News
13 February 2004
Russian candidate 'was kidnapped'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3485971.stm

""
He said that, on arrival at an apartment in Kiev, he was offered some refreshments and suddenly became "very drowsy".

Mr Rybkin said he was unconscious for four days, coming to on 10 February.

As he awoke, he claims one of his guards told him it was part of a "special operation".

"Then they showed me a revolting videotape with my participation and they told me it was a plan to compromise me and force me to be co-operative."
""

13 February 2004
Russia's 'spy thriller' saga
Peter Biles
BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3487557.stm

I was kidnapped, says Putin election rival
Rybkin claims he was drugged during mystery absence
Jonathan Steele
The Guardian
14 February 2004
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/feb/14/russia.jonathansteele

""
Four days later he woke up in a different flat, where he was shown a compromising video of himself.

Repeatedly declining to discuss the contents at yesterday's press conference, where he seemed close to tears, he said it was made by "horrible perverts". He also refused to say who he thought had organised his kidnapping. His captors spoke perfect Russian and were fellow Slavs, he said. "I don't know who did it, but I know who benefited from this," he added.
""

BBC News
5 March 2004
Rybkin drops challenge to Putin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3536215.stm

Below are some news articles and extracts of articles on intelligence and criminal usage of scopolamine:

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The below is an excerpt from the article "The Pegasus File, Part 1" by David G. Guyatt, Nexus Magazine, Vol. 4, No. 3, April-May 1997 ( http://web.archive.org/web/19990908024412/http://www.nexusmagazine.com/pegfile1.html , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVNo7wdS ):

Other "neutralisations" verge on the bizarre. An individual who must remain nameless for a variety of reasons - but whose name is known to this writer - underwent an experience that is both horrific and chilling. Readers are warned that what follows is not at all pleasant. For the sake of ease, I shall call this individual "Mr X" or, simply, "X".[10]

Mr X was a leader of one of the largest CIA-backed Contra groups. He recently testified before the US Senate Intelligence Committee. Formerly, X was a senior executive in a South American subsidiary of a leading US soft drinks corporation. During his Senate testimony, he denied any knowledge of CIA involvement in the narcotics trade, adding that condoning such activity would have been foreign to his way of life. Not so, says [Dois Gene] Tatum. Mr X had been recruited into the CIA by then-Director William Casey, with the assistance of Oliver North.

In 1990, when Nicaraguan leader Daniel Ortega announced there would be "free elections", X was ecstatic. He began jostling for position and asked President Bush to ensure he be given a prominent position in the new government - in return for his years of toil at the behest of the CIA and the Enterprise. The pressure came in a form that Bush could not ignore. Failure to help his friend would result in X's intimate knowledge of Bush's involvement in the dope trade being made public. His threat left Bush with a sour taste. A Pegasus team was assigned to "neutralise" him in early 1990.

Mr X, Tatum states, "fancied himself a lover of women. Tall, large-breasted blondes were his favourite. It was determined that, if effectively neutralised, [Mr X] could be an asset. Therefore, it was decided that intimidation would be used to control [Mr X]."

They chose to use the drug Scopolamine, which also went by the nickname "Burundanga" or "the Voodoo drug". The drug is extracted from the pods of a flowering shrub that grows in remote regions of South America. In its processed, powdered form, Scopolamine is "void of smell, void of taste". When properly administered "it causes absolute obedience" without this being "observable by others". Importantly, the target will not recall any of the events that occurred during the period they were under the spell of the drug.

In outlining these details, Tatum adds that it is important to administer the drug in the correct dosage, for he has known targets to die from too high a dose. Others have "remained under the influence of Burundanga for up to three weeks". Precise dosage can be achieved by liquid ingestion, the powder being readily soluble. Ingestion via cigarettes is also an optimum method of ingestion. It is fast-acting and takes no more than 20 minutes to work.

Tatum states that X was invited to spend a relaxing weekend at a luxury hotel as a guest of his friend George Bush. His host for the weekend was a trusted 18-year veteran field-intelligence officer. The evening started with cocktails and was followed by a fine meal. "'Nothing but the best' were the orders."

Following the meal, he was ushered into the suite of a "blonde bombshell" supplied by the CIA. Mr X had already ingested a dose of Burundanga during pre-dinner cocktails. X was gallant with the blonde as they both moved into the bedroom where video cameras were already set up in one corner. In short order, the blonde had X standing naked in front of her and began to indulge his desires. All the while, the video cameras whirred. Slowly stripping off, the "blonde" revealed his manhood in all its glory. Mr X was instructed to reciprocate the favour and perform fellatio. He obliged, his intimate activities recorded at 24 frames a second on videotape.

Tatum says the male prostitute was hired from a bar in New York and killed that same evening.

Two weeks later, X - wholly unaware of the events of that evening - was visited in Nicaragua. He was presented with a copy of the video footage, along with instructions. Tatum says that X can never allow that video to be seen: "Not only does it reveal his homosexuality, but it also reveals his bestiality and satanic worship rituals." As frame after frame flicked by, X reportedly wept, forced to watch himself kill his homosexual "lover" and then engage in the most grisly cannabalistic ritual imaginable.

Neutralised, Mr X became a leading member of the Nicaraguan government a few short weeks later.[11]

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Endnotes

10. Tatum has provided me with the name of this individual, a well-known politician. He also asked that I consider excising this account from the article, for a variety of understandable reasons. I have elected to keep it, as I believe it is both an important and highly significant account.

11. I phoned and spoke with Ron Lard, an official at the DEA HQ, Virginia, to ask about the properties of Burundanga. He was unable to provide any information. However, through other sources I can confirm that this drug is well known to cause both amnesia and a zombie-like trance in which the target follows all orders. Dr Camilo Uribe, head of Bogotá's toxicology clinic, says "it's like chemical hypnotism". See Wall Street Journal, 3 July 1995.

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[My note: for more on Dois Gene Tatum, see Col. Chip Tatum, "Pegasus: CIA Assassination Project - Tatum's Saga" http://web.archive.bibalex.org/web/20030217204135/http://www.kimsoft.com/korea/pegasus.htm , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVNt2xtK ; and "The Chip Tatum Chronicles: Testimony of Government Drug Running", What Really Happened http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/TATUM/tatum.html , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVOCRh4C .]

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From: hathaway@blitz.iowa.edu (David Hathaway)
Subject: Re: What's the use of mindcontrol?
Date: 1996/04/09
Message-ID: <4kemis$gbe@lace.colorado.edu>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.mindcontrol/msg/c687bab0f335670d

The Wall Street Journal

July 3, 1995

If you thought cocaine was bad news, wait until you hear about Burundanga.

Burundanga is a kind of voodoo powder obtained from a Colombian local plant of the nightshade family, a shrub called borrachero, or "drunken binge." Used for hundreds of years by Native Americans in religious ceremonies, the powder when ingested causes victims to lose their will and memory, sometimes for days.

When refined the powder yields scopolamine, a well-know drug with legitimate uses as a sedative and to combat motion sickness. But in Colombia, the drug's most avid fans are street criminals. Crooks mix the powder with sedatives and feed the Burundanga cocktail to unsuspecting victims whom they then proceed to rob--or worse.

Doctors here estimate that Colombian hustlers slip the odorless, colorless and soluble Burundanga in food or drink to about 500 unwitting victims in the city each month. About half of the city's total emergency room admissions for poison are Burundanga victims.

"It is a very serious problem," says Fernando Botero, Colombia's defense minister. Adds Camilo Uribe, the doctor who runs the city's formost toxicology clinic and who is in charge of toxicology for all of Bogota's public hospitals. "It's epidemic."

It seems that everyone in Bogota knows someone who has been victimized by the drug, Burundanguiado, as the say in Spanish. In one common scenario, a person will be offered a soda or drink laced with the substance. The next the person remembers is waking up miles away, extremely groggy and with no memory of what happened. People soon discover that they have handed over jewelry, money, car keys, and sometimes have even made multiple bank withdrawals for the benefit of their assailants. Because Burundanga is often given at seedy bars or houses of prostitution, many victims are reluctant to come forward.

"The victim can't say no; he has no will and becomes very open to suggestion. It's like chemical hypnotism," says Dr. Uribe. "From the moment it's given, the victim remembers absolutely nothing of what happened." He adds, "From a criminal point of view, it's got a lot of advantages."

Architect David Meneses says he was Burundanguiado twice in one week last December. Mr. Meneses' first encounter with Burundanga took place on a Friday night when he stopped at a pharmacy to buy antacid. Two well-dressed men approached his car. The last thing Mr. Meneses remembers is one of the men unwrapping a piece of candy. "I woke up the next day at noon at my house," he says. He had no memory of how he got there, though the doorman in his building told Mr. Menseses he saw him come in at 7 a.m. looking nervous and confused.

On Monday, Mr. Meneses checked with his bank, where he was told that his ATM card made 13 withdrawals for a total of about $700 on that lost Friday night. Concerned that he might have unwittingly been involved in criminal activity, or that his car had been used, Mr. Meneses went to the local prosecutors' office where he made a sworn statement saying he wasn't responsible for anything that had happened during the hours he was under the influence of the drug.

Three days later, the luckless Mr. Meneses noticed that he had a flat tire. Two men on the street approached him and offered to change it. "I remember they gave me something to drink, which I can't imagine why I drank," he says. Police found him asleep in his car six hours later. He had been robbed of his radio and about $125.

These days, Mr. Meneses is careful to drive with the windows rolled up. He doesn't venture out much at night anymore. "Burundanga is a very dangerous weapon in the hands of the underworld," he says.

Not all cases of Burundanga involve theft or robbery. Sometimes victims have been used as mules to carry cocaine, says Dr. Uribe's brother Manuel, a neurologist practicing at the clinic. In one incident, says Manuel Uribe, a well-known Colombian diplomat disappeared shortly after leaving a function in Bogota, only to reappear in Chile under arrest for cocaine smuggling. Medical tests showed he had been under the influence of Burundanga, and no charges
were filed.

Camilo Uribe said that in a minority of cases Burundanga is used to lure young women who are then abused sexually. When they are found days later, they have no memory of what has happened to them. "You see that a lot with university coeds," he says.

Camilo Uribe is often called by companies and embassies to talk about the perils of Burundanga. One diplomatic mission that takes the problem very seriously is the U.S. Embassy. Its orientation manual warns freshman diplomats never to visit bars or nightclubs alone. "Druggings in group situations are far less common," the manual says, adding that food and drinks should never be left unattended. At the Colombian unit of Dow Chemical Co., security officials periodically tell employees how to avoid getting Burundanguiado. "There have been many cases," says Oswaldo Parra, the company's legal officer. "It's a very common practice in Colombia."

Curiously, just next door in Ecuador, where the plant is grown commercially for medical purposes, its criminal use is unknown. Instead, the plant is the subject of poetry and myth. If one sleeps under the plant in Ecuador, he will be able to tell the future, legends say.

Here, however, Pedro Gomez Silva, a forensic chemical expert, tells police cadets that for fear of Burundanga, Colombians shouldn't accept food, drinks or cigarettes from strangers, nor buy them from street vendors.

What's more, to be on the safe side, Colombians shouldn't help when asked for directions or the time of day. And forget sidewalk romances. The way things go with Burundanga, flirting with a stranger could lead to a really lost weekend.

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http://web.archive.org/web/20030626161859/http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2941170 , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVNYEdIM

Drug Turns Crime Victims Into Zombies

Tue June 17, 2003 08:44 AM ET

By Phil Stewart

BOGOTA, Colombia (Reuters) - The last thing Andrea Fernandez recalls before being drugged is holding her newborn baby on a Bogota city bus.

Police found her three days later, muttering to herself and wandering topless along the median strip of a busy highway. Her face was badly beaten and her son was gone.

Fernandez is just one of hundreds of victims every month who, according to Colombian hospitals, are temporarily turned into zombies by a home-grown drug called scopolamine which has been embraced by thieves and rapists.

"When I woke up in the hospital, I asked for my baby and nobody said anything. They just looked at me," Fernandez said, weeping. Police believe her son Diego was taken by a gang which traffics in infants.

Colorless, odorless and tasteless, scopolamine is slipped into drinks and sprinkled onto food. Victims become so docile that they have been known to help thieves rob their homes and empty their bank accounts. Women have been drugged repeatedly over days and gang-raped or rented out as prostitutes.

In the case of Fernandez, the mother of three was rendered submissive enough to surrender her youngest child.

Most troubling for police is the way the drug acts on the brain. Since scopolamine completely blocks the formation of memories, unlike most date-rape drugs used in the United States and elsewhere, it is usually impossible for victims to ever identify their aggressors.

"When a patient (of U.S. date-rape drugs) is under hypnosis, he or she usually recalls what happened. But with scopolamine, this isn't possible because the memory was never recorded," said Dr. Camilo Uribe, the world's leading expert on the drug.

Scopolamine has a long, dark history in Colombia dating back to before the Spanish conquest.

Legend has it that Colombian Indian tribes used the drug to bury alive the wives and slaves of fallen chiefs, so that they would quietly accompany their masters into the afterworld.

Nazi "angel of death" Joseph Mengele experimented on scopolamine as an interrogation drug. And scopolamine's sedative and amnesia-producing qualities were used by mothers in the early 20th century to help them through childbirth.

Finding the drug in Colombia these days is not hard.

The tree which naturally produces scopolamine grows wild around the capital and is so famous in the countryside that mothers warn their children not to fall asleep below its yellow and white flowers. The tree is popularly known as the "borrachero," or "get-you-drunk," and the pollen alone is said to conjure up strange dreams.

"We probably should put some sort of fence up," jokes biologist Gustavo Morales at Bogota's botanical gardens, eyeing children playing with borrachero seeds everywhere.

"If you ate a few of those, it would kill you."

Although scopolamine can be easily extracted from the seeds, experienced criminals hardly ever bother with them, police say.

Pure, cheap scopolamine is brought across the border from neighboring Ecuador, where the borrachero tree is harvested for medical purposes, Uribe said. The alkaloid is used legally in medicines across the world to treat everything from motion sickness to the tremors of Parkinson's disease.

The use of scopolamine by criminals appears to be confined to Colombia, at least for now, and it's not clear why the drug is such a rampant problem in Colombia. Some analysts blame it on a culture of crime in the Andean nation, home to the world's largest kidnapping and cocaine industries, not to mention Latin America's longest-running guerrilla war.

There are so many scopolamine cases that they usually don't make the news unless particularly bizarre. One such incident involved three young Bogota women who preyed on men by smearing the drug on their breasts and luring their victims to take a lick.

Losing all willpower, the men readily gave up their bank access codes. The breast-temptress thieves then held them hostage for days while draining their accounts.

The U.S. Embassy in Bogota takes scopolamine very seriously and offers staff tips on how avoid being drugged. One piece of advice may seem obvious: Don't let your drinks out of your sight when at a Bogota bar or nightclub.

Still, at least three visiting U.S. government employees here have been drugged and robbed over the past two years. Other American victims from time to time appear at the embassy seeking help, still shaking off a scopolamine hangover.

"I remember one case, an American reported being drugged," an embassy official said. "He says to his doorman 'Why did you let them walk out with my stuff.' The doorman says, 'Because you told me to.'"

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/722302/Latin-America-Victims-of-drugging-and-mugging.html , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVOVSpYI

Telegraph Group Limited

Drugged and mugged

Steve Hide is an experienced traveller. He is also a burundanguiado - a victim of drugging. His story should serve as a caution to all of us.

Report Filed February 2000

IN five years' driving buses for tour companies in Latin America, I had heard a lot of travellers' tales. Some of the most far-fetched were about people who had been befriended on the road, drugged, and then robbed of everything they were carrying.

There was the backpacker who "lost" four days after accepting a biscuit on a Bogotá night bus; he woke in hospital 800 miles away. "The bus wasn't even going there" is the twist in the tale. There was the traveller in Quito, Ecuador, who went for a quick drink and woke up, two days later, naked and in a strange apartment. And then, in an interesting variation, there was the Chilean diplomat who was caught smuggling cocaine on an international flight while in a deep trance.

The stories were gripping, but I never saw them as anything other than entertainment. The account was always second- or third-hand, the victim always "a friend of a friend". Then, one night, in a Peruvian bar, the victim was me.

I was halfway through a sip of beer when I blanked out. It was as though someone had drawn a curtain across my conscious mind. Just as suddenly, I was conscious again, but blind. I could hear voices. I had an incredible feeling of calm. Then I blanked out again.

Luckily, friends got me safely back to the hotel. Next day, they gleefully explained the missing minutes from the night before: I had attacked a stranger at the bar, thrown punches, rolled about on the floor; then, in the taxi home, tried to clamber into the front seat and drive. I had needed restraining.

I listened aghast. I had no sense at all of having lost any time. My mind, like an old record player, had skipped a groove.

By chance, several days later, I met two travellers who had visited the same Lima bar. The South African told me he had suddenly got dizzy a few sips into his first beer. He staggered outside, followed by some locals. His friends got to him first, hailed a taxi and took him home. The Dutch traveller told me that the barmaid had warned her of a gang that laces the drinks of tourists and then robs them outside.

The penny dropped: I was a burundanguiado. That is an Andean word for a victim of burundanga, a potent plant extract based on shamans' old potions. A tasteless yellow powder, it has a fearsome reputation in Colombia, the centre of druggings in South America.

It comes from the datura plants once used by the Chibcha people to sedate the wives and slaves buried alive with deceased chiefs. It is still used in remote areas by curanderos (healers) to induce a "waking trance" state, sometimes preceded by sudden outbursts of violence.

Burundanga can be added to food, drinks or cigarettes. In recent decades, its sinister use on the streets has grown from its role as a weapon in Colombia's gang wars. In Bogotá, hospital doctors say it accounts for half of all poisoning admissions, 500 per month.

In other parts of the Andes, it is known as borrachera, "drunken binge". Across the divide in Brazil, drugging crimes are charmingly called Boa noite, Cinderella - Goodnight, Cinderella - after a popular Seventies television show.

Crimes involving datura are also being reported in Ecuador, where it is used as a "recreational" drug, peddled by local guides to thrill-seeking tourists.

It was in Ecuador that I once witnessed the power of a vine called wantu. On the last night of a four-day jungle trip, our local guides brewed up a bitter potion they said was used by experienced shamans. They then talked half of our group of backpackers into drinking it.

Mayhem ensued. The jungle camp turned into a scene from Night of the Living Dead as the dozen or so imbibers crashed zombie-like through the undergrowth, while trying to tear up money or passports - not very successfully, because they had lost most of their faculties, including
eyesight.

Some lay in their hammocks having hallucinations about beasties. Others tottered towards the banks of the Rio Napo, a swift Amazon tributary that is no place to play blindman's buff. We shepherded them into a wooden hut and guarded them until dawn for their own safety.

The next day, our zombies had returned, partly, to the land of the living, although their eyesight was still a bit haywire (some still could not read their watch faces several days later). None could fully recall their antics of the night before and, irritatingly, they did not believe our version of events.

Wantu, like other datura-based drugs, contains a chemical called scopolamine, which has many legitimate medical uses and is cropped for pharmaceutical companies in South America. Minute doses are used as a seasick cure, stronger ones in anaesthesia.

Scopolamine induces a dry mouth, disorientation, loss of vision, a hypnotic state and hallucinations. An overdose can cause heart failure. It also causes memory loss, which is seen as a benefit to patients undergoing surgery. That is less of a benefit to victims on the street, as Elliott Stares, a 26-year-old Londoner, found when he and his brother were coerced to change hotels before being robbed by a "friendly" couple in Recife, Brazil.

"We met them for some drinks, but were quickly rendered completely compliant to their will," he recalls. He remembers being in a bar, then has only glimpses of memory as the brothers were walked back to their hotel and told to collect their gear in readiness for a move to another hotel.

He now believes they were moved to make it easier to rob them. He has no memory of checking into the new hotel, but was later told by counter staff that he and his brother had seemed "drunk and dazed" when they arrived and had needed help from the Brazilian couple.

The brothers slept for 20 hours before waking in their strange lodgings. All their money and credit cards were gone. It took another day for them to get their senses together, says Stares, and through comparing notes and talking to hotel staff they managed to piece together the missing hours. "Sometimes things come back to me, little bites of information, but still most of the evening is vague."

He remembers at one point the Brazilian woman giving him a glass of powdery water, while his brother was lying unconscious nearby. "The amazing thing was that I knew what was happening without even realising any danger. I just went along with it."

This type of drugging is not exclusive to South America. Datura-type plants grow on most continents and have long been associated with druggings both in ritual and crime. Modern science has brought us more refined Mickey Finns such as Rohypnol, Halcion and GHB, chemical hypnotics used in "date rapes" in North America and occasionally turning up in Britain.

The Foreign Office says that embassies throughout the world have noticed a rise in drugging cases, but not enough to call a trend. "It's hard to say if the problem is growing or just being reported more, although it is wise to be alert to it," says a spokesman.

Any assessment of the risk is made more difficult by the entanglement of genuine cases with the fictional. Drugs such as burundanga are often a feature of that durable travellers' tale, "I woke up minus a kidney". Stories of organ theft, which proliferate through the internet, have been thoroughly debunked as modern myth (in one study by the UN, no less). They creep so often into mainstream media, however, that in New Orleans (often named as a city where travellers get separated from their body parts) the police department has threatened legal action against those who publish them. "These allegations . . . are completely fictitious and a violation of criminal statutes concerning the issuance of erroneous and misleading information," says the city's Office of Public Affairs.

In other respects, the internet has been a positive force. Real victims of drugging have turned to it as a way to warn other travellers or to secure justice.

A German backpacker, who was drugged and sexually assaulted by a guide on a jungle tour in Rurrenabaque, Bolivia, in 1998, publicised her ordeal on popular traveller internet sites, describing how in the aftermath she had met with "nothing but indifference from the local police and 'my' German embassy".

Her report gained credibility when several other victims came forward. Warnings were posted inside guidebook covers and on hostel walls. Bolivian police eventually arrested the guide last December, but not before two more alleged attacks. He now faces multiple charges of rape and assault.

In some parts of the world, drugging is linked to sex tourism and the victims are reluctant to talk. Sometimes, they are silenced for good. In the Thai resort of Pattaya, police were called to investigate a spate of deaths from heart attack among men - more than could be explained by heatstroke, over-exertion and over-the-counter Viagra. In nine months, 45 male tourists had dropped dead. According to Thai newspapers, police arrested a gang of prostitutes who had been smearing a knock-out paste on their breasts; they had been a bit over-zealous in the application.

For most of us, the risk of being drugged will arise in less compromising circumstances. The Foreign Office warns tourists to take particular care with their food and drink in Brazil, India, the Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Turkey and the former Soviet countries. On Russian trains, the word is: "Don't accept any drinks from rail staff."

If you do fall victim, then the official advice is to tell the police and your nearest embassy or consulate as soon as possible. It might not be a good idea to return to your hotel or hostel. "There is a chance the druggers know where you are staying - they may even have copies of your keys - and you could be in continuing danger," says a Foreign Office spokesman.

The embassy itself can act as a temporary safe haven and help with lost tickets, passports and money. The Foreign Office is keen to hear of even minor incidents. If there is credible evidence of a persistent risk in an area, then it can instigate local inquiries and add warnings to its travel advisory bulletins.

Travellers sensibly avoiding the sleazy side of town should take care on buses and trains, and remember that there is no archetypal drugger. Last October, Peruvian police received a dozen reports of druggings by a "sweet middle-aged lady" handing out sweets to passengers on the night bus to Huaraz, a popular resort.

A whole Bolivian family was in on the act on the long-distance bus from Argentina to Bolivia. "They were very friendly," recalls their Danish victim, who passed out after accepting a sip of Fanta from grandmother. He woke to find the family and his bags gone.

Across the Pacific, a couple's trip to Manila last year went awry after they met three "nice, well-educated and rich" Filipinos who invited them to go for a snack. Their after-lunch nap lasted 33 hours, during which £4,000 was wiped off their credit cards.

Such cases make for depressing reading. The offer of food or drink is a time-honoured expression of friendship in most parts of the world (especially on Russian trains) and few travellers would want to miss out on it completely. But, when in doubt, it may be better to say no than take a risk. In areas they regard as dangerous, many experienced travellers make a habit of drinking only from bottles or cans they have opened themselves.

Given that so many druggings happen in bars, it is probably a good idea to ensure that when you have a night on the town it is with people you know and trust: go in a group and try to return together. If you do split up, make sure friends know where you are.

Fraser Devan, from London, says he owes his life to fellow backpackers who found him unconscious on his hotel-room floor 24 hours after his drink was spiked in a nightclub in Bangkok. They got him to hospital, where he spent six days in intensive care.

His narrow escape has not dampened his enthusiasm for travel or for Thailand. He is planning to return to Bangkok on his honeymoon in June - "and I'll be checking out that nightclub to see if anything comes back to me".

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USUAL SUSPECT: datura extract is used to spike drinks

HOW YOU CAN AVOID BECOMING A VICTIM

Colombia is one country where the Foreign Office has noted a trend for robberies facilitated by drugging. The British Embassy in Bogotá says that "these attacks frequently occur on public transport and travellers should never accept food, drink or cigarettes from strangers, no matter how friendly or well dressed the individual appears". Food sold by street vendors or in cheap cafes might also have been impregnated with a drug.

Ben Box, the editor of the South American Handbook (Footprint), says that the Andean countries - Colombia, Ecuador and Peru - are particularly known for cases of burundanga poisoning, but that travellers should also be wary in Brazil, Bolivia and Venezuela, where drugs are constantly being smuggled across borders.

He offers the following advice: never accept a bar drink from an opened bottle unless you can see that the bottle is in general use; always insist that the bottle is uncapped in front of you. When buying bottled water, make sure that the seal is unbroken. When travelling in a drug-producing area, especially in Bolivia, Peru and Colombia, check with the embassy or tourist office before going off the beaten track.

Richard Danbury and Melissa Graham, co-authors of the Rough Guide to Chile, are less convinced that drugging poses a serious risk in South America. For safety's sake, however, they say that you should avoid taking a lot of money or jewellery into bars and carry a photocopy of your passport rather than the real thing.

"Keep yourself as safe as possible by travelling in groups and avoid overnight trains, especially in anything other than a lockable compartment in first class. When travelling on public transport, lock your luggage to something solid." Finally, they say, be wary of people who are over-friendly and refuse to take no for an answer.

According to the poisons unit at Guy's & St Thomas' Hospital in London, symptoms of datura poisoning (other than those described by Steve Hide) include difficulty in swallowing and speaking, flushed skin, dilated pupils with blurred vision, vomiting, difficulty in passing urine, rapid pulse, high temperature, drowsiness, slurred speech, confusion, delirium, agitation and combative behaviour. The effects can last up to 48 hours, although the pupils may remain dilated for more than a week. Following recovery, the victim may have amnesia.

The Foreign Office website has updated advice on dangers in particular areas and individual embassies often have more detailed information.

The South American Explorers Club was set up to give advice to people visiting Latin America. Its website has noticeboards where travellers can recount their experiences.

Clare Thomson

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Below is an an excerpt from "1977 Senate Hearing on MKULTRA: 'Truth' Drugs in Interrogation" ( http://web.archive.org/web/20031228151745/http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/Hearing04.htm , http://www.webcitation.org/5vVL9hmzw ):

SCOPOLAMINE AS "TRUTH SERUM"

Early in this century physicians began to employ scopolamine, along with morphine and chloroform, to induce a state of "twilight sleep" during childbirth. A constituent of henbane, scopolamine was known to produce sedation and drowsiness, confusion and disorientation, incoordination, and amnesia for events experienced during intoxication. Yet physicians noted that women in twilight sleep answered questions accurately and often volunteered exceedingly candid remarks.

In 1922 it occurred to Robert House, a Dallas, Texas obstetrician, that a similar technique might be employed in the interrogation of suspected criminals, and he arranged to interview under scopolamine two prisoners in the Dallas county jail whose guilt seemed clearly confirmed. Under the drug, both men denied the charges on which they were held; and both, upon trial, were found not guilty. Enthusiastic at this success, House concluded that a patient under the influence of scopolamine "cannot create a lie... and there is no power to think or reason." [14] His experiment and this conclusion attracted wide attention, and the idea of a "truth" drug was thus launched upon the public consciousness.

The phrase "truth serum" is believed to have appeared first in a news report of House's experiment in the Los Angeles Record, sometime in 1922. House resisted the term for a while but eventually came to employ it regularly himself. He published some eleven articles on scopolamine in the years 1921-1929, with a noticeable increase in polemical zeal as time when on. What had begun as something of a scientific statement turned finally into a dedicated crusade by the "father of truth serum" on behalf of his offspring, wherein he was "grossly indulgent of its wayward behavior and stubbornly proud of its minor achievements." [11]

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Only a handful of cases in which scopolamine was used for police interrogation came to public notice, though there is evidence suggesting that some police forces may have used it extensively. [2,16] One police writer claims that the threat of scopolamine interrogation has been effective in extracting confessions from criminal suspects, who are told they will first be rendered unconscious by chloral hydrate placed covertly in their coffee or drinking water. [16]

Because of a number of undesirable side effects, scopolamine was shortly disqualified as a "truth" drug. Among the most disabling of the side effects are hallucinations, disturbed perception, somnolence, and physiological phenomena such as headache, rapid heart, and blurred vision, which distract the subject from the central purpose of the interview. Furthermore, the physical action is long, far outlasting the psychological effects. Scopolamine continues, in some cases, to make anesthesia and surgery safer by drying the mouth and throat and reducing secretions that might obstruct the air passages. But the fantastically, almost painfully, dry "desert" mouth brought on by the drug is hardly conducive to free talking, even in a tractable subject.

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REFERENCES

2. Barkham, J. Truth Drugs: The new crime solver. Coronet, Jan. 1951, 29, 72-76.

11. Geis, G. In scopolamine veritas. The early history of drug-induced statements. J. of Crim. Law., Criminal, & Pol. Sci., Nov.-Dec. 1959, 50 (4), 347-358.

14. House, R. E. The use of scopolamine in criminology. Texas St. J. of Med., 1922, 18, 259.

16. Inbau, F. G. Self-incrimination. Springfield: C. C. Thomas, 1950.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 05:46:18 PM
Oats has clearly stated, contrary to multiple witnesses, that Holmes acted alone.

Well, by golly, if Chief Oats says lone gunman, then that’s what happened. He’ll get to keep his job, may even get a pay raise for enforcing the corporate narrative. As for those witnesses, well, the authorities have their personal details….

I was really hoping that the local LE would show some fortitude by going against the dictated story. But it looks like they’re just going to fold. Entering a one-way emergency exit without an accomplice is no easy feat.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Geolibertarian July 20, 2012, 05:47:45 PM
Fox News: 4:06 to 4:08 ET witness testimony
-claimed that a possible accomplice propped the emergency door open for the gunman to later enter, some 20 minutes after the film started

The Fox anchor on the scene dismissed this witnesses testimony as fast as it was given

Oats has clearly stated, contrary to multiple witnesses, that Holmes acted alone.

Thus proving that there was an accomplice, and that he therefore didn't act alone.

We should openly thank both Fox and Chief Oats for confirming what we already knew.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Geolibertarian July 20, 2012, 05:54:42 PM
Like always, determining what actually happened will be a process of eliminating one possible explanation after another until only one remains.

And as we all know, the first explanation to be eliminated is whichever one the banker-owned (http://www.infowars.com/top-senate-democrat-bankers-own-the-us-congress/) "U.S." government and its parrots in the talking point media (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7F9iN5zCu0) tell us to blindly accept as divine gospel, under penalty of being labeled a "conspiracy theorist (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161407.0)."
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Geolibertarian July 20, 2012, 06:06:16 PM
In light of how many times the corporate-whore "news" media have been caught parroting lies on behalf of the banker-owned political establishment in just the last decade or so, anyone who thinks these teleprompter readers and establishment mouthpieces have even the slightest amount of "credibility" quite frankly deserves every single ounce of Nazi-style tyranny he or she gets.

The problem is that, if authority-worshiping coincidence theorists (http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2008/12/coincidence-theorists-guide-to-911.html) get their way, they'll be dragging the rest of us right over the cliff with them.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman July 20, 2012, 06:31:05 PM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html)

The CALL7 Investigators have learned the gunman bought a ticket to the Batman movie, sat down for about 15 minutes, and then propped open the back door to the theater when it was dark. The gunman then went back to his car and parked it in the back of the theater, grabbed the guns and went in through the open back door.

Police said the man set off two devices with some type of irritant or smoke, then started shooting.

Moviegoers said they didn't know what was happening when they heard a hissing sound and smelled smoke. Some thought the attack was part of the movie, since it occurred during a battle scene about 20 minutes into the movie. Then they saw a silhouette of a person in the smoke at the front of the theater near the screen, pointing a gun at the crowd.

He fired first with the shotgun, emptied it and then calmly picked up the rifle and fired at the back of the movie theater.

now they're saying he propped the door open himself. 

Just after the shooting occurred, a bulletin was issued to other police agencies throughout the metro area warning them of the possibility of similar incidences in theaters in their cities.

hhmmm.  now why would they do that if this was an isolated, insane person?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: kidA July 20, 2012, 06:45:32 PM
Folks.

As tempting as it is to jump to conclusions that fit in with our own views, we need to wait a little before making conclusive comments.

There are also just crazy people out there, and as coincidental as this is, it could just be that, a coincidence.
Not everything is linked to the NWO, even if it seems like it fits in perfectly.

Just sayin' ;)

There is a line in the movie when Gordon tells the young cop [Joseph Gordon Levitt] "You're an investigator now, there is no coincidence".

I sat in awe while I was watching this movie. Something was giving me the creeps. Just knowing all the information I know about propaganda, false flags, corporations, etc etc there were just so many scenes in this films that hit at home. Like, here is this film showing the masses whats going on in the real world around them, but they think it's all fake. Entertainment. There is even a line where the cops are discussing how to tell the public about an operation they're about to do and Joseph Gordon recommends saying they're running an EXERCISE and my brother immediately looked at me. He whispered in my ears, "drills" with this look on his face. How the govt uses that coverup real terrorism.

There is this when moment in the film when we know the bombs are about to go off in the stadium, it gets quiet and a little boy is singing the national anthem, someone actually had the nerve to giggle. That made me so aggravated and sad at the same time. I had tears in my eyes as this attack was happening.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 06:53:54 PM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html)

now they're saying he propped the door open himself. 

hhmmm.  now why would they do that if this was an isolated, insane person?


There are 2 ways the corporate media handles logical problems with their narrative after the fact:

1.   Change the narrative.
2.   Stonewall of silence.

Note to media: Still waiting on that explanation of how a student could afford and/or access all that pricey gear. Coming soon….maybe. I think your conference room is open if everyone's back from lunch.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 06:59:08 PM
Thus proving that there was an accomplice, and that he therefore didn't act alone.

We should openly thank both Fox and Chief Oats for confirming what we already knew.

The narative has sprung a leak, and while Fox never had credibility, Chief Oats is quickly attempting to join them.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: oyashango July 20, 2012, 07:01:02 PM
3 Service Members Wounded, 1 Missing In Colorado Shooting


WASHINGTON — The U.S. Department of Defense says three members of the U.S. Armed Forces were wounded in a movie theater shooting in Colorado and one is unaccounted for.

The agency says a Navy sailor was injured and a male sailor who was at the theater early Friday morning cannot be located. The sailors are part of a Navy Cyber Command unit at nearby Buckley Air Force base.

Two Air Force airmen based at Buckley were also wounded, but their specific unit hasn’t been released.

Both branches of the military are working with the families of the service members to make sure they are cared for.

The Defense Department also says the suspect, James Holmes, is not a past or current member of any branch or component of the Armed Forces.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/general/view/20120720pentagon_military_casualties_in_colorado_shooting/
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 07:03:00 PM
Well, by golly, if Chief Oats says lone gunman, then that’s what happened. He’ll get to keep his job, may even get a pay raise for enforcing the corporate narrative. As for those witnesses, well, the authorities have their personal details….

I was really hoping that the local LE would show some fortitude by going against the dictated story. But it looks like they’re just going to fold. Entering a one-way emergency exit without an accomplice is no easy feat.

Couldn't agree more.  Local PD is showing some poor policing skills to say the least.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Geolibertarian July 20, 2012, 07:12:59 PM
Local PD is showing some poor policing skills to say the least.

Yes, but excellent promotion skills, and I'm sure Chief Oats knows that.

He'll probably get some sort of medal pinned on his uniform by Obama himself.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 07:17:43 PM
Couldn't agree more.  Local PD is showing some poor policing skills to say the least.

They’re not interested in the truth. They’re interested in the funding.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html)

now they're saying he propped the door open himself. 

hhmmm.  now why would they do that if this was an isolated, insane person?


I think this young man's eye witness testimony on Fox many have forced a narative shift.  I can't find the main stream media focusing on the propped open door, until after his appearance on Fox, then CNN, and several others focused on the propped open door, and the narative shift of his having done it all himself.  Hmmm, Holmes sat for 15 minutes in the theater,... the attack by witness testimony began 20 minutes after the movie began.

Anyone know how long it takes to get all SWATed up?  The official narative now gives him 5 minutes to prop open the door, get out of the theater, get to his car, gear up, then make his way back to the theater's rear emergency door.    
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 07:24:33 PM
You both got right, Geolibertarian & One Revelator,...

funding and promotions, now we're talking police work.

About the DIA mural of the Gas-masked-AK-guy though, if we look at it closely at the picture, he is standing in the burt out wreckage of several story brick building, not unlike the very one that FBI, ATF and Bomb squads are about to detonate in CO - evacuated for 5 blocks surrounding the boobey-traped building.   
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: IridiumKEPfactor July 20, 2012, 07:56:52 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-sex-website-penis-cops/ (http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-sex-website-penis-cops/)

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/20/0720-james-holmes-orange-prison-wm-2.jpg)

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/20/0720-james-holmes-adult-friend-finder-4.jpg)

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/20/0723-james-holmes-orange-wm-1.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 20, 2012, 08:32:12 PM
Many of the victims state it sounded like more than one shooter.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/wv4q2/someone_came_into_our_theater_at_the_midnight/

Someone came into our theater at the midnight release of Dark ...
www.reddit.com/.../someone_came_into_our_theater_at_the_midnig...

14 hours ago – Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at ...

Now they say this:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/ap-shooter-bought-ticket-propped-open-door/article_40bb1778-d29b-11e1-89f2-001a4bcf6878.html
WASHINGTON •  A U.S. official says the suspect in Friday's shootings inside a Colorado movie theater bought a ticket to the midnight showing of the latest Batman movie and went into the theater as part of the crowd.
 
A federal law enforcement official said suspect James Holmes is believed to have propped open an exit door in the theater as the movie was playing, donned protective ballistic gear and opened fire. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the ongoing investigation

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman July 20, 2012, 08:32:57 PM
these don't look like the same person to me.  one has a wider jaw line and thicker lower lips than the other.  

(http://i45.tinypic.com/anbtja.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 08:48:56 PM
Many of the victims state it sounded like more than one shooter.
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/wv4q2/someone_came_into_our_theater_at_the_midnight/

Someone came into our theater at the midnight release of Dark ...
www.reddit.com/.../someone_came_into_our_theater_at_the_midnig...

14 hours ago – Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at ...

update:
1:55 a.m.: New evidence for shooters. That’s plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.

1:56 a.m.: One shooter at large, one in custody. From Facebook: Someone set off some little party poppers in our theatre, next thing I know someone runs in and said there was a shooting. We huddled down into the seats because people were outside the exit. I was fortunate enough to get home safely with my sister but a few friends are still stuck there.

http://mashable.com/2012/07/20/reddit-colorado-shooting/ (http://mashable.com/2012/07/20/reddit-colorado-shooting/)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 08:59:00 PM
full post ^^^ from above

"“Reddit, I’ve been compiling a timeline for a while,” page author integ3r writes. “Here it is. If you have ANY media or news whatsoever, please add it. Don’t repost personal info from the scanners. Denver resident here. Reddit, I’m doing my best to update this.”

From there, starting at 1:27 a.m., Mountain Daylight Time, integ3r offers a breathtaking detail of events.

1:28 a.m.: Aurora PD merging communications with Denver PD

1:35 a.m.: Shooter wearing green camo pants

1:37 a.m.: Bomb squad is there, bringing in K-9 units. Possible other bombs

1:40 a.m.: 18 ambulances on scene

1:41 a.m.: 9news story posted.

1:42 a.m.: “All ten people in the theater are black.” Fatalities.

1:43 a.m.: Report of a bomb going off in a theater.

1:45 a.m.: Patients being transported to Denver Health

1:47 a.m.: Command staff briefing. This is huge.

1:49 a.m.: Car, Tennesee plates, Hyundai, license [redacted]. Third to west, in front of doors. Possible bomb. Main entrances of mall covered. Bomb squad moving in.

1:53 a.m.: Canine units coordinating at SE entrance between JC Penney’s and the food court. May be a bomb in there. Theory that bombs may be in front of theater.

1:55 a.m.: New evidence for shooters. That’s plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.

1:56 a.m.: One shooter at large, one in custody. From Facebook: Someone set off some little party poppers in our theatre, next thing I know someone runs in and said there was a shooting. We huddled down into the seats because people were outside the exit. I was fortunate enough to get home safely with my sister but a few friends are still stuck there.

1:57 a.m.: Due to bombs, police relocating all units to S of Dillard’s. Open door was in Macy’s. Suspicions of bombs there.

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 09:03:05 PM
"1:42 a.m.: “All ten people in the theater are black.” Fatalities"

If this is true, we have a very serious problem layered into this event whose news is yet to break.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 09:34:41 PM
Just watched a joke of a briefing by Chief Oatmeal.  Lets add some 'facts':

Holmes, 'supra-genious', had purchased 6000 rounds of ammo but dropped the drum mag and aparently the AR in the theater, but was wearing nearly full body armor - indicating that he wanted to survive the incident.  He was found not fleeing the scene however, but passively captured by SWAT who even initially mistook him as one of their own, and he had only the pistol in the car, according to one police report.

Way too much doesn't add up here to take this story for granted, especially inlight of the looming UN gun ban and Fast-and-Furiously gun grabbing COG administration puppets. 

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 20, 2012, 09:51:28 PM
Kaczynski  Parallells:

Oh you cannot make this s--- up, new thread on this:
Safeway False Flag Massacre Patsy gets same lawyer as MK Ultra Victim Kaczynski   (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=197690.0)  


Kaczynski is a confirmed MK Ultra victim!


Ted Kaczynski was a real victim of unconstitutional social engineering via MKULTRA "truth" programming, one of millions! Wrongful authority was applied to him as a sixteen-year-old child.
http://robertscourt.blogspot.com/2008/06/unabomber-harvard-mkultra-victim.html
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 10:02:09 PM
Does anyone else have a problem with a Chief ButteredOats (and Pierce the Brittish Shmoo Morgan repeating) that a semi auto AR with 100 rnd drum fires at 50 rounds a minute?  In what 90 year old stiff arthritic universe does he live?  Maybe more like 3 to 5 rnd per second even with semi auto, and there's better aim.  The Oat Chief is a strange source of info, even for hard facts. 

Anyone on the planet can YouTube Bikini clad women with semi-auto ARs that fire at high rates of fire and some with very good form,... so to speak.

-1 Chief Oatmeal 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Geolibertarian July 20, 2012, 10:09:29 PM
Just watched a joke of a briefing by Chief Oatmeal.

Hey, I happen to like oatmeal. Must you spoil one of my few remaining pleasures in life by equating it with that lying sack of excrement?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: IridiumKEPfactor July 20, 2012, 10:15:41 PM
these don't look like the same person to me.  one has a wider jaw line and thicker lower lips than the other.  

(http://i45.tinypic.com/anbtja.jpg)

It could be from months of drug use.

Same name, same city and the same carrot top hair.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: IridiumKEPfactor July 20, 2012, 10:18:16 PM
"1:42 a.m.: “All ten people in the theater are black.” Fatalities"

If this is true, we have a very serious problem layered into this event whose news is yet to break.

When they show the pictures of the victims then Al Shapton and Jesse Jackson will be on the first flight to Denver if they aren't already.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 10:24:43 PM
Kaczynski  Parallells:


All his logical inconsistencicies, look like programing, point blank.  His Op is terror on many levels: 1)  Use popular culture to popularize being terrorized.    2)  Imitate SWAT so that SWAT gear becomes off limits to out of control 'civilians'.  3)  Heavy casualty count: forces global mass media monopoly coverage.  4)  He just gives up and seeks protection from the system, thus the system will be used, like the LA riots trial, against itself to prove that ultimately no justice exists in our corrupted America.

This guy looks more and more like an MK kid.  If the report of all ten killed at the theater being black is true, we have a very directed hit on a particular target group, that has little if anything to do with the joker or batman, or anything other than being used at the wrong time, later on to cause racial reactions.  The potential energy here should not be understated.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 10:30:23 PM
Hey, I happen to like oatmeal. Must you spoil one of my few remaining pleasures in life by equating it with that lying sack of excrement?

My deepest appologies, he is,... mealy mouthed, and Oat named, so,... I dubbed him thus.

Would Chief Oatmeal Cookie, of whose creamy nonsense I too am a great fan, be any better?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 10:30:50 PM
The official narrative via AP by the FEDS says lone gunman. They will not be changing that. They never do. However, ground reports of cops who are actually investigating say accomplice. Can you guess which narrative will stick for future DHS grants?

This is why I’d rather talk to the lower-level workers on the ground to find out what’s really going on. This works with corporate and government entities as well.

Also, The largest magazine that I know of for an AR is 90 rounds. That would weigh about 3 lbs. 6000 rounds would weigh about 190 lbs. Conflicting eyewitness stories. Some say continuous fire. Some say he stopped to reload. The make/model of weapons keeps changing hourly, of course.

Also, the “black” reference was code for fatality according to the reddit entry. It was not referring to race.

Still no explanation for only 5 minutes to walk to the parking lot, move the car, gear up completely, and return to the theater weapons-a-blazing.

Still waiting on that affordability issue to be explained. I suspect it will be ignored, as that is their preferred method.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: fred.greek July 20, 2012, 10:46:01 PM
Hmmm… heavily armed, NO doubt as to identity, but the police “let him live”… while the WRONG person in his home, at 1 AM, is shot dead…  Huh?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 20, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
One Revelator,

I hope you're right about the code reference to 'black' as a fatality itself rather then being racial.

AR mags come in 150s even, but I don't know if that's the max.  I did hear witnesses claimed that he stopped to reload too, but that could easily have been misenterpreted as a weapon switch.
 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 11:05:36 PM
Just looked up that 150 SAW mag. Pretty hefty/bulky. I wouldn’t want to have to haul it around.

1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/wv4q2/someone_came_into_our_theater_at_the_midnight/?limit=500

Guy might have updated the entry to make it clear?

@fred.greek – Got a link for that info?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman July 20, 2012, 11:09:13 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/239802/slide_239802_1254051_free.jpg)
Tom Sullivan , holds a photograph of his son, Alex Sullivan, as he pleads with the media to help him find his son, outside Gateway High School on Friday, July 20, 2012 in Aurora, Colo. Alex Sullivan, was celebrating his 27th birthday by attending midnight premiere of the Batman movie Friday night.

(http://i.minus.com/ibxe1bU6QQ9DLm.jpg)

May the Lord Jesus help these poor families that have lost someone over this tragedy.  God forgive our nation.   :'(
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 20, 2012, 11:29:53 PM
The official narrative via AP by the FEDS says lone gunman. They will not be changing that. They never do. However, ground reports of cops who are actually investigating say accomplice. Can you guess which narrative will stick for future DHS grants?

This is why I’d rather talk to the lower-level workers on the ground to find out what’s really going on. This works with corporate and government entities as well.

Also, The largest magazine that I know of for an AR is 90 rounds. That would weigh about 3 lbs. 6000 rounds would weigh about 190 lbs. Conflicting eyewitness stories. Some say continuous fire. Some say he stopped to reload. The make/model of weapons keeps changing hourly, of course.

Also, the “black” reference was code for fatality according to the reddit entry. It was not referring to race.

Still no explanation for only 5 minutes to walk to the parking lot, move the car, gear up completely, and return to the theater weapons-a-blazing.

Still waiting on that affordability issue to be explained. I suspect it will be ignored, as that is their preferred method.

This is what an eye witness to the shooting said.  

The movie was running and, at one of the most intense scenes of the movie the exit door at the bottom of theater where the screen was located flew open.  "Things" were thrown in the air.  "The crowd thought it was all part of the movie as a promotion because it played into the actual movie scene so well". Then one of the 'things' thrown into the air exploded.  The witness swears up and down it was tear gas.  Thats when all the shooting started.  

This witness with his daughter like everyone else were choking from the gas as they crawled on the floor to exits at the back of the theater 'furthest' from the screen.  While crawling, this witness was able to look up over the back of the seats and saw the shooter standing by the exit unloading the gun.  

We know that the Pentagon and Hollywood are in bed together.  Was this shooter trained to shoot up the theater when a certain part of the movie was playing where, the shooter had been programed BEFORE THE RELEASE?   The explosion would be the mind control trigger for the shooter to pull the trigger.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 20, 2012, 11:57:17 PM
This is what an eye witness to the shooting said.  

The movie was running and, at one of the most intense scenes of the movie the exit door at the bottom of theater where the screen was located flew open.  "Things" were thrown in the air.  "The crowd thought it was all part of the movie as a promotion because it played into the actual movie scene so well". Then one of the 'things' thrown into the air exploded.  The witness swears up and down it was tear gas.  Thats when all the shooting started.  

This witness with his daughter like everyone else were choking from the gas as they crawled on the floor to exits at the back of the theater 'furthest' from the screen.  While crawling, this witness was able to look up over the back of the seats and saw the shooter standing by the exit unloading the gun.  

We know that the Pentagon and Hollywood are in bed together.  Was this shooter trained to shoot up the theater when a certain part of the movie was playing where, the shooter had been programed BEFORE THE RELEASE?   The explosion would be the mind control trigger for the shooter to pull the trigger.

Yeah, I thought about that coincidence.

Was he “hired” by somebody posing as a movie rep for a publicity stunt? Told he would be firing blanks?

Was he asked to participate in a DHS drill?

Was he MK’d or scopolamined?

The problem is that once a shooter is in custody, direct public contact is forbidden. So, we don’t get to ask him directly. The last uncontrolled public statement that Amy Bishop made was something like “It never happened. Those people are still alive.”
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 21, 2012, 12:17:45 AM
The more I heard the witnesses on the local Denver talk radio ALL say over and over that they thought the stuff going on BEFORE the shooting was all part of the movie's promotion by the shooter, rang a bell with me.

After hearing this over and over, the shooting seemed less columbine like and much more Sirhan Sirhan manchurian candidate stuff.  

Movies play a major roll in triggering manchurian candidates, there's the well documented Wizard of Oz and Alice in Wonderland techniques by programmers known as Wizard of Oz triggers.

Here is a possible trigger caught on video of Britney Spears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMpguv7st7s

Also this guy was involved with DARPA.  Which is also similar to the Ft Bragg Shooter.  Which may have been a dry run before deploying these mind control human robots into society. 

Will we see more of this?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 21, 2012, 12:36:58 AM
Here's something interesting as well....

I took a look at the early MSM reports.  Massive amount of detail about the blood and gore.  Very little detail about the police apprehension.

Basically all we know is that the police found a guy holding a gun (which the Aurora police USUALLY shoot first then ask questions later although this time they didn't) with riot gear.

We really don't know if someone else did the shooting and the op's left him behind to be found.

Witnesses said the emergency door to the theater where the shooting occurred opened and closed multiple times before the little show and the shooting started.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: America2 July 21, 2012, 12:50:02 AM
The MSM is really, really pushing this hard in their reportings all day today - if this happened let's say in the 1980's during a showing of "Rambo"(or "Total Recall"), it would barely make back-page news. Or for that matter only the rag medias like Entertainment Tonight or E! would provide all the coverage.

This sure ain't Columbine, where a couple of mentally-imbalanced teenagers weren't discerning enough when they played the violent video games Doom and Quake all day, and was obsessed with "The Matrix"...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: America2 July 21, 2012, 12:53:06 AM
When they show the pictures of the victims then Al Shapton and Jesse Jackson will be on the first flight to Denver if they aren't already.

Or for that matter too - where in the world is Lt. Dave Grossman over this?

Remember Grossman is the same guy who got his 15 minutes of fame after Columbine by going around the country speaking at public schools and radio media(and was profiled on CBS's 60 Minutes) warning about the dangers of teens playing violent video games and watching violent movies.(of course, he forgot about the parts where the teen shooters were under MK Ultra Mind Control, and there was also a 3rd shooter)

Wow...after 9/11, this man just disappeared...I wonder why...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: chris jones July 21, 2012, 08:19:55 AM
The victims family's Will never get over this, God have mercy on them. I know, lost my first born son, the pain NEVER just goes away.

 Gas masks, a dark theater, these muckers could do anything under these circumstance and cover it.

  The town they picked, Aurora, come on guys is this a coincidence or are the thinktankers playing word games, Aurora in Latin means, the BEGGINNING.  One more FF hashmark on their sleeve. Or cinsider the name given to the genocide our regime is using.
  Arab Spring. The definition of spring's immediate  mental image is something nice, , the world awakes to flowers budding and green grass flowing, real nice image. In truth its lakes of blood.
  Its a mind play, DHS also made a mandate for theater owners to be ware and buff up security earlier this year. Why, to make it appear they and only the FED agencys can keep the cits safe. Plus they covered themselves didn't they, a if " we told you, we mad a manate but you citizens didn't listen took our advise and look what you allowed to happen, America needs us to protect , gun laws must be stricter, we must controll"
 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman July 21, 2012, 09:30:58 AM
the shooting in Norway that killed 77 people happened one year ago, July 22.  Happened on the same weekend in July as this shooting.  Coincidence?  Just a thought.
: Cinemark Theaters’ No Firearms Policy
: One Revelator July 21, 2012, 10:03:45 AM
Here’s the answer to one of my questions.

Rep. Gohmert: Did No One Else in Aurora Theater Have a Gun?

The shooting could have been limited if someone else in the Aurora, Colo., movie theater had been carrying a gun, Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert said today.

Gohmert reacted to the shooting, which left 12 dead, during an interview this morning on the radio program Ernest Istook Live! From The Heritage Foundation.

 “Well it does make me wonder, you know with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying that could’ve stopped this guy more quickly?” Gohmert said. “I mean in Tyler, Texas, we had–my hometown–we had a shooter come in over a domestic matter, and just start shooting people. And it was a guy with a concealed carry–he got killed, but his shooting at this guy caused him to run and no doubt saved a lot of lives. He was a real hero.”

Colorado allows residents to obtain concealed carry permits, according to the Colorado State Patrol website.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/rep-gohmert-did-no-one-else-in-aurora-theater-have-a-gun/

Well,sir, the answer lies in PLANO, IN YOUR OWN STATE.


Cinemark Theaters’ No Firearms Policy

“Headquartered in Plano, TX, Cinemark Holdings, Inc. is a leader in the motion picture exhibition industry with 459 theatres and 5,181 screens in the U.S. and Latin America as of March 31, 2012,” their website reports. Cinemark owns the Century 16 movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, scene of last night’s mass shooting. Cinemark doesn’t allow anyone other than law enforcement officers to carry legal firearms in their theaters. The ban hadn’t escape the attention of some of Cinemark’s law-abiding, gun-toting customers—even before last night’s homicidal frenzy. Make the jump for the story of a Cinemark patron ejected from the cinema for Open Carrying [via defensivecarry.com] . . .

A friend and I decided to go see Law Abiding Citizen [in Anchorage Alaska] after attending a local 2nd Amendment organization Banquet. We were already open carrying from the Banquet so we didn’t bother putting on our jackets. We made our way into the theater and stood in line to purchase our tickets, so far there wasn’t any problems.

I was OCing my 1911, my friend was OCing his G22, and we purchased our tickets and made our way to the theater so we could get good seats. As we near our theater two managers a male and female come out of nowhere and the conversation goes something like this . . .

Manager: Excuse me guys but firearms are not allowed in here, you’ll have to put them in your vehicle.

My friend: Really when did that happen, I’ve carried here many times with no problem, well we’d like to see your policy on that please!

Manager: Okay come with me

We followed the manager up to the ticket counter and he showed us this small cardboard sign that said “NO FIREARMS ALLOWED” at the very bottom. We told the manager that we wished to receive a full refund and we would not be returning to the theater in the future. He said nothing, and we were given our refunds with no further problems . . .

We ended up going to a shopping mall that has a theater inside and we were able to see our movie without being asked to leave . . .

This is indeed the slight inconvenience we put up with, but I really feel if enough people got behind this “no guns = no money” that businesses would change their policies real quick. However I don’t see that happening anytime soon because most people are too lazy to take a stand.

Over at forum.opencarry.org, commentator thx997303 also had words with Cinemark about their weapons policy, this time at the corporate level.

I sent an e-mail to Cinemark Corporate to inquire as to their policy on firearms.

I got a call today, from Dan Myers with Cinemark Corporate, and he informed me that Cinemark’s official policy is that ONLY LEO’S CAN CARRY INTO THEIR THEATERS

NO CONCEALED WEAPONS, NO OC.

He asked me that we not send e-mails to tell them their policy sucks.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/robert-farago/cinemark-theaters-no-legal-firearms-allowed/
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Optimus July 21, 2012, 10:07:37 AM
Cover-Up? FBI Theater Attack Warning Memory-Holed
http://www.infowars.com/cover-up-fbi-theater-attack-warning/

You Tube
Saturday, July 21, 2012

It appears the FBI attempted to remove from the Internet a warning from 2 months ago that theaters would be attacked.


7/21/2012 -- FBI theater attack warning issued on May 17, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9aVMfYR8to&feature=player_embedded

 Published on Jul 20, 2012 by dutchsinse

UPDATE : license plate of the shooter was 119 RDC

--------------------

A FBI / DHS warning for possible theater attacks was issued on May 17, 2012.

google cache of the document:

http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3AzVGvdC5GMmcJ%3Ainfo.publicintelligence.net%2FDHS-FBI-TheaterAttacks.pdf%2B%26hl%3Den%26gl%3Dus&session_token=0xihHRBvhD6l2jlp89qg4b277uJ8MTM0Mjk2NTQ1M0AxMzQyODc5MDUz

.pdf download via google cache:

http://info.publicintelligence.net/DHS-FBI-TheaterAttacks.pdf

here is the original link that was taken down off google [now has been restored :^) ]

http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fviewer%3Fa%3Dv%26q%3Dcache%3AzVGvdC5GMmcJ%3Ainfo.publicintelligence.net%2FDHS-FBI-TheaterAttacks.pdf%2B%26hl%3Den%26gl%3Dus%26pid%3Dbl%26srcid%3DADGEESg2lv6XNlHvPrswxAMhhR7UqbnbJY24kjYVkED1JI4pj2UZ9tIs_ANPnt_c3xiWcdF3uCUvNLcnTXcgLVrkkKwLE4BKN-O2dOUcplCoX6Ae0GB2Omzuj0FQFHsm1AM7DIDbUBwv%26sig%3DAHIEtbToRYC40hrBe3hhLzjHzns8d_UTPA%26pli%3D1&session_token=0xihHRBvhD6l2jlp89qg4b277uJ8MTM0Mjk2NTQ1M0AxMzQyODc5MDUz

(https://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg2lv6XNlHvPrswxAMhhR7UqbnbJY24kjYVkED1JI4pj2UZ9tIs_ANPnt_c3xiWcdF3uCUvNLcnTXcgLVrkkKwLE4BKN-O2dOUcplCoX6Ae0GB2Omzuj0FQFHsm1AM7DIDbUBwv&q=cache%3AzVGvdC5GMmcJ%3Ainfo.publicintelligence.net%2FDHS-FBI-TheaterAttacks.pdf%20&docid=868ee7087a265c64b7a99a767757ec31&a=bi&pagenumber=1&w=800)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 21, 2012, 10:31:07 AM
Great Grab up above!

... and Chertoft was just in Denver preaching this crap as well.

Alex is certainly correct when he stated that these globalist monsters won't hesitate to kill anyone to further their agenda.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: psy0ps July 21, 2012, 10:41:46 AM
AR15
2 .40 cal glocks
shotgun
Body armor
gas mask
smoke bombs
6000 rounds of ammo

Where did the patsy get all the money for these items? I'm guessing it's several thousand dollars worth of equipment.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Freelancer July 21, 2012, 11:18:35 AM
AR15
2 .40 cal glocks
shotgun
Body armor
gas mask
smoke bombs
6000 rounds of ammo

Where did the patsy get all the money for these items? I'm guessing it's several thousand dollars worth of equipment.

Over 10k without the explosive charges they found in his flat ... I asked the same question
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234386.msg1366554#msg1366554 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234386.msg1366554#msg1366554).

TahoeBlue was nice enough to answer that in a profound way .

He had to drop out of school, so he could focus on a covert false flag mkultra type operation and money just falls from the trees when you are targeted for one of these operations....
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman July 21, 2012, 11:40:34 AM
they said this morning on CBS that he had to get a job at McDonald's after dropping out of school because he couldn't find a job in the field of his degree.  so again, where does he get the money for this?  Credit cards? 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 21, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
the shooting in Norway that killed 77 people happened one year ago, July 22.  Happened on the same weekend in July as this shooting.  Coincidence?  Just a thought.

Yes, After Bohemian Grove "time" (international satanic following) these people seem to want a mass human sacrifice...

Review and read thru the thread NATO architected simultaneous false flags in Oslo, Norway which killed 60+  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=213041.0) :


NATO architected simultaneous false flags in Oslo, Norway which killed 60+
interesting series:

Programmed To Kill/Satanic Cover-Up Part 25 (Anders Behring Breivik - Norway Shooting 2011)  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3fXmxzWdc)

Programmed To Kill/Satanic Cover-Up Part 42 (Anders Behring Breivik - Norway Shooting 2011)  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8BUhecOUzw)

SEE: Dave McGowan - Programmed to Kill (http://www.scribd.com/doc/36363051/Dave-McGowan-Programmed-to-Kill)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 21, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
Cinemark Theaters Was On Notice Their NO GUNS Policy was a Gun Free Killing Zone

Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- As far back as 2009 pro gun activists had made Cinemark management aware that their NO Guns Policy was just creating a gun free zone where only the inncent and lawabiding would be unarmed.

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/07/20/cinemark-theaters-was-on-notice-their-no-guns-policy-was-a-gun-free-killing-zone/#

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Liability for Deaths & Injuries

All of this begs the question…

Do businesses (like AMC Theatres) have any liability or responsibility for deaths and injuries that occur on their premises because they have prohibited citizens from legally carrying concealed weapons to protect themselves?

I’m not sure whether Samuel Williams would notice or comply with the “No Weapons Allowed” sign at AMC Theatres, but perhaps businesses—especially those that draw large crowds—will reconsider their policies in the aftermath of the Colorado tragedy. I, for one, would want proficient, legally armed citizens nearby if a moron like James Holmes showed up on the scene intending to do harm.

For the record, I’m not familiar with the policies of the Century 16 Theater, owned by Cinemark Theaters. Speculations abound. If the theater prohibits legal firearms like AMC Theatres does in their locations nationwide, then the Samuel Williams of the world won’t be there to return fire.

With 12 dead and as many as 59 injured, this incident is being reported as the largest mass shooting in U.S. history. Ultimately the responsibility for this tragedy lies with the shooter. However, I have to wonder what businesses are thinking when they attempt to prohibit legal firearms. And I’m sure that the families of the victims as well as the 59 injured will be considering this in the days ahead.

http://www.epiphanydigest.com/2012/07/20/2-shooting-incidents-one-day-apart/

Should the movie theater in Colorado be SUED for failing to provide a safe atmosphere?

I'm thinking if the official Cinemark Theater policy is to ban all firearms including concealed carry permit holders & their firearms, shouldn't they be on the hook financially for dereliction of duty in keeping the movie going patrons safe?

When I'm forced to disarm myself to visit anothers establishment, I assume the owner of said establishment has a full duty to provide for my safety, up to & including armed guards to protect me. Failure to provide a safe atmosphere should result in a financial settlement same as if a neighbors child climbed the fence into my backyard & drowned in my pool. At the end of the day, regardless of the circumstance I would still be sued as it's my property. I'm responsible for any action that happens on it.

Should we at GLP begin calling for civil suits by the families of the victims, as well as those unhurt but suffering from trauma? Same with the Va. Tech shooting. If we're not allowed to protect ourselves, a civil rights violation, those who deny my right had better keep me safe of suffer the consequences as well.

I feel for starters, Five million dollars per victim & one million for each survivor.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1930154/pg1
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: TahoeBlue July 21, 2012, 01:08:15 PM
Colorado Shooting Most Likely A NorthCom / Fusion Center Psy Op
fyi - Epic Fail - Colorado Fusion center .... didn't stop the tragedy

http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1267022335336.shtm
Colorado's Fusion Center Recognized at National Fusion Center Conference
Release Date: February 23, 2010
...
New Orleans—The Colorado Information and Analysis Center, an FBI agent assigned to the Joint Regional Intelligence Center in Los Angeles and the deputy director of the Northern California Regional Intelligence Center won awards at the National Fusion Center Conference today as fusion center of the year and as outstanding fusion center federal and state/local representatives.

During an awards presentation, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the Program Manager for the Information Sharing Environment recognized outstanding fusion centers and their leadership.

Award winners included:
Fusion Center of the Year–The Colorado Information and Analysis Center (CIAC) was recognized for exemplifying every aspect of a robust and mature fusion center. CIAC leadership has been a strong advocate of fusion centers, organizing and supporting the national build-out of the network. They were specifically recognized for their recent support to the Najibullah Zazi terrorism investigation as well as their leadership during the 2008 National Democratic Convention.

...
In addition, the 12 pilot sites for the Nationwide Suspicious Activity Reporting (SAR) Initiative were recognized for their support to the country’s homeland security mission. These sites included police departments in Boston, Chicago, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami-Dade and Washington; Arizona Department of Public Safety (Arizona Counterterrorism Information Center), Florida Department of Law Enforcement, New York State Intelligence Center, Seattle Police Department/Washington State Fusion Center, and the Virginia Fusion Center.
...


http://coloradoindependent.com/4424/colorado-fusion-center-to-step-up-intelligence-gathering-during-dnc
Colorado ‘fusion center’ to step up intelligence gathering during DNC
By Erin Rosa
Wednesday, July 30, 2008

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...

Colorado’s “fusion” center, a place designed to facilitate intelligence sharing among federal, state and military agencies in an effort to prevent terrorism. But civil rights advocates fear that the Colorado Information Analysis Center, (CIAC) now housed in an inconspicuous office building in Centennial, a southern suburb of Denver, could enable unwarranted spying on Americans exercising their First Amendment rights at the convention.
...
CIAC opened in October 2004 to respond to possible threats during the year’s election season, but it now handles threats not only relating to terrorism, but to all crimes and hazards, including natural disasters.
 
Jim Lancy, president of the Colorado Emergency Management Association (CEMA) and a board member of the center for two years, says “CIAC is looked at as a model for the rest of the country in how to build a fusion center and how to work effectively at crime and terrorism prevention."

http://publicintelligence.net/intelligence-fusion-centers/

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Colorado Information Analysis Center
 9195 E. Mineral Ave
 Centennial, CO 80112
 720-852-6705

https://www.ciac.co.gov/

Colorado Information Analysis Center

In response to the 2001 September 11th attacks, the United States has created specialized agencies to coordinate efforts to prevent, protect against, respond to, recover from, and prosecute acts of terrorism. The CIAC is a multi agency fusion center created to help prevent terrorism incidents in Colorado.

The CIAC is designed to link all stakeholders in Colorado, from local and federal law enforcement officers, to bankers and school teachers. It emphasizes detection, prevention, and information-driven response to protect the citizens and critical infrastructure of Colorado. This counterterrorism effort is centralized in order to enhance interagency cooperation and expedite information flow.

Terrorism cannot be completely eliminated. However, through efficient use of resources, the likelihood and impact of terrorist actions can be reduced.

Prevention is everyone's responsibility. We are one neighborhood, one state, one nation; and it is the responsibility of all to remain vigilant and to report suspicious behavior. One call can make a difference.

Call 1-877-509-2422 to report a suspicious activity.
...
Eight Signs of Terrorism
...
5. Supplies- Purchasing or stealing explosives, weapons, ammunition, etc. This also includes acquiring military uniforms, decals, flight manuals, passes or badges (or the equipment to manufacture such items) and any other controlled items.

[ So say a poor college student is buying TNT and thousands of dollars worth of SWAT type gear, I should not be suspicious and NOT call in a SARS report? ]  

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: TahoeBlue July 21, 2012, 01:29:07 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/colorado-shooting-suspect-reported-to-be-former-occupy-member
Colorado shooting suspect reported to be former 'Occupy' member

The “Doo Doo Economics Blog” is reporting that shooting suspect James Holmes, of Aurora Colorado, is a former member of the Occupy San Diego group.
...
the blog links Holmes to the Occupy San Diego group. That investigator, Bill Warner, reports Holmes today on his web blow with this title, “Occupy Black Bloc Member James Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killing 12 And Wounding 50.”
...
The author of the Doo Doo Economics Blog cites Holmes as a member of the “black block” faction of the Occupy movement
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: America2 July 21, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
Wow...there was a report yesterday that he was connected to the Tea Party, and now he's connect to Occupy? Are there any other "connections" we're not aware of? Why not throw in James Dobson's Focus on the Family? It's in the Denver area like Holmes is, isn't it? And if he's connected to Dobson, and Dobson is connected to the religious right/moral majority, then why not throw this "connection" into the mix as well?

And why not all of these "connections" join together as one big happy family and throw a party!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Constitutionary July 21, 2012, 01:41:57 PM
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=223421.msg1320034#msg1320034

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: Geolibertarian July 21, 2012, 02:27:49 PM
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: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 21, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/colorado-shooting-suspect-reported-to-be-former-occupy-member
Colorado shooting suspect reported to be former 'Occupy' member

The “Doo Doo Economics Blog” is reporting that shooting suspect James Holmes, of Aurora Colorado, is a former member of the Occupy San Diego group.
...
the blog links Holmes to the Occupy San Diego group. That investigator, Bill Warner, reports Holmes today on his web blow with this title, “Occupy Black Bloc Member James Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killing 12 And Wounding 50.”
...
The author of the Doo Doo Economics Blog cites Holmes as a member of the “black block” faction of the Occupy movement

http://www.examiner.com/article/james-eagen-holmes-has-no-proven-connection-to-ows
James Eagen Holmes has no proven connection to OWS
James Eagen Holmes and OWS
July 21, 2012
By: Tim McCown
...

Conservative Examiner, Marc Chamot goes so far on his site to claim that not only is Holmes a member of Black Bloc Occupy but also a registered Democrat and avid supporter of Barrack Obama. His source is a Sarasota private eye named Bill Warner, who posts on a site called Cheaters Florida, which should tell you more than enough about the factual level of Warner's fantastic fictionalization.

Mr. Warner has no facts to back up his claim and essentially bases his statements on his own speculation about the theme of the movie The Dark Knight Rises being the screen writer and producers anti-Occupy story line. This is apparently why, we are led by Warner to believe, Holmes went on a premeditated killing spree.
...
...we have yet to know what the shooters motivation for committing this horrible act of violence against a theatre of innocent people was. It is far too early and is nothing but irresponsible speculation to make the claim that he was a Tea Party militia nut or a member of OWS. Most of OWS does not accept the Black Bloc Anarchists motives or the group as part of the whole 99% OWS movement for that matter.
...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Constitutionary July 21, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
OBVIOUS ATTEMPT AT A GOVERNMENT FALSE-FLAG WITH HAPLOPHOBIC LEGISLATION ABOUT TO BE PASSED IN THE SENATE VIA THE UN !!!!!!!!!!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: America2 July 21, 2012, 03:23:51 PM
Hollywood puts box office on mute after shootings
http://news.yahoo.com/hollywood-puts-box-office-mute-shootings-161636534.html

NEW YORK (AP) — Hollywood studios aligned in a rare show of solidarity to give their weekend box-office reporting a rest because of the shootings in Colorado at a screening of "The Dark Knight Rises."

Sony, Fox, Disney, Universal, Fox and Lionsgate said Saturday that they are joining "Dark Knight Rises" distributor Warner Bros. in withholding their box-office numbers for the weekend.

Warner Bros. announced Friday that it would forgo the usual revenue reports until Monday out of respect for the victims and their families in the shooting that killed 12 and wounded 58 at the midnight show earlier in the day.

The other studios said they also would not be reporting numbers until Monday. Paramount didn't immediately say whether they were joining. Box-office tracking service Rentrak said it would not report figures this weekend.

Sunday box-office estimates are a weekly routine for Hollywood, with studios jostling for bragging rights as the No. 1 movie and always aiming to break revenue records.

Before the shooting in an Aurora, Colo., movie theater at a midnight screening of the new Batman film, the box-office performance of "The Dark Knight Rises" had been eagerly anticipated. The film is expected to be among the most lucrative movie openings and possibly contend with the record $207.4 million brought in by "The Avengers."

But that now appears unlikely, even though "The Dark Knight Rises" earned $30.6 million from midnight screenings alone. Hollywood trade publications Variety and Hollywood Reporter reported estimates of roughly $75 million to $77 million for the film on Friday, based on box-office insiders.

That would put in on track for somewhere around $165 million for the weekend. Such a total would be the second highest weekend opening ever, after "The Avengers."

Any projections, though, are bound to be rough approximates given the atypical nature of the situation. Many of Friday's tickets were presold before the shooting. Moviegoers making their way to theaters also faced increased security and, in some places, bag checks. AMC Theaters, the country's second-largest movie chain, said it would not allow costumed fans or face-covered masks into its theaters.

Warner Bros. rushed to react to the tragedy, immediately canceling a Friday night premiere in Paris. On Saturday, it also canceled the other remaining red-carpet extravaganzas in Mexico City and Tokyo.

The studio, a subsidiary of Time Warner Inc., also moved to pull trailers from its upcoming film "Gangster Squad" from theaters. The trailer of the film, which stars Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling in a ruthless war between Los Angeles police and the mob, includes a scene of mobsters firing into a crowded movie theater from behind the screen.
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: menace July 21, 2012, 03:50:24 PM
Defeat the H.R. 308  McCarthy Magazine Ban Bill

http://www.nagr.org/McCarthyBanPetition2.aspx?pid=ND1
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: Sasha July 21, 2012, 04:10:22 PM
...more reports of an accomplice, corroberating many witnesses testimonies,... even a bit of a description this time and it ID's someone other than Holmes as the gunman,... until its corrected:

Aurora, Colorado: Indian Male Suspect in Shooting Rampage at Dark Knight Rises Showing
By Gianluca Mezzofiore
July 20, 2012 9:30 AM GMT
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/365162/20120720/aurora-dark-knight-rises-batman-colorado-denver.htm#ixzz219VjYVZ3 (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/365162/20120720/aurora-dark-knight-rises-batman-colorado-denver.htm#ixzz219VjYVZ3)

Police are searching a local mall for an Indian male suspected of the shooting rampage that killed at least 10 people and injured 20 at a cinema in the Colorado city of Aurora, near Denver, during a midnight showing of new Batman film The Dark Knight Rises, according to the police radio.

Multiple children are among the dead according to Donna Hayes-Johnson, a news producer at WFHP. It is even being reported that a baby was shot at point-blanki range.

Local media report that two gunmen went on the rampage, both wearing gas masks. One of the gunmen is now in custody, and police are searching for the other.

"The number of injured is unclear right now," Al Boe, journalist at BNO News, told IBTimes UK on Twitter.

"An explosion definitely went off but early reports said shots were fired. Multiple injuries".

A second device may have been located in the parking lot of the theatre, according to police radio. Explosive K9 sniffer dogs are on scene.

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CORRECTION: Police have named 24-year-old James Holmes as their prime suspect in the shooting which left at least 12 people dead and 50 injured at the Century 16 cinema in the Colorado city of Aurora.

Apologies for the wrong report.

To report problems or to leave feedback about this article, e-mail: g.mezzofiore@ibtimes.co.uk
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: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Valerius July 21, 2012, 04:36:09 PM
Ban bans!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: kidA July 21, 2012, 04:45:31 PM
And when I saw the newspaper on my table today, I wasnt surprised to see the MSM use the 3 word name just like every assassin .
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: chris jones July 21, 2012, 05:02:18 PM
 It has probably been mentioned but if so, here it is again.
 
 Holmes, who attended a Ph.D program in neurological sciences
 Neurological, does't that indicate in part messing with ones head, isn't the nervous system related to the brain's function..

 If this report is true,(the lookout, Aurora Col.Yahoo sp.) it has my attention.  Higher education,The agency's recruiting ground, for example MIT Cambridge Mass, Technoligy Square is a nest egg for the office-agency.

 This may not have anything to do with this guys profile, it simply got my attention.
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: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 21, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
Great posts to All above!!

Keep up the good work info warriors!!!
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: 2Revolutions July 21, 2012, 06:03:28 PM
Shooting suspect was doctoral student; had worked at summer kids camp

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_c2)

"As a grad student you have an opportunity to work for the university in the research program for the programs that you're studying," university spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery said. "He worked in the neurosciences program. It is a paid position."



Kaitlyn Fonzi, a 20-year-old grad student and neighbor, said she heard techno music blasting from his apartment around the time of the shooting, and had nearly opened Holmes' unlocked apartment door to complain, unaware that the unit was booby trapped with explosives.

A timer had turned the music on so that it would blare in his apartment after he left for the Aurora multiplex, according to a law enforcement source.
   



Police said Holmes entered the sold-out movie theater dressed in black, wearing a ballistic helmet, a tactical ballistic vest, ballistic leggings, protectors over his throat and his groin, a gas mask and black tactical gloves
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 21, 2012, 06:22:09 PM
Oh regarding the booby trapped apartment  - a related thread - Keep in mind there is a c-i-a headquarters in SD just off the "to the Beaches" freeway....

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/escondido/article_645f4ed3-1e30-5a5d-beb5-8a30945026dd.html
ESCONDIDO: House razing goes smoothly as questions linger about bomb suspect
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Massive stash of CIA "Red Team" explosives stockpiled by Serbian/FBI Bank Robber  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=192981.0)

"Prosecutor says man's Escondido home was a 'bomb factory.' Gardener hospitalized after stepping in powdery substance that triggered explosion. In a little noticed report over the weekend, a gardener was in serious condition after triggering an explosion when he stepped in a powdery substance on the grounds."

Notice that they have NOT named or shown the "homeowner" who "rented" the "safehouse" to George Djura Jakubec

Also there is NO explanation "no visable means of support" for how this man supported himself for the last twenty years.

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/escondido/article_269b617a-eef6-54d9-9a96-91546bb62e00.html
ESCONDIDO: Suspected bombmaker's motives remain elusive - December 11, 2010

http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_16806652?nclick_check=1
Lawyer seeks halt to burning of Calif. bomb home ...
Dec 8, 2010 ... There could be documents and other evidence inside that would be critical to
Berg's defense of George Jakubec and "once it's gone, ...

Attorneys for the resident, George Jakubec, sought a delay to collect evidence from the home, including notes scribbled on graph paper and a hardcover book about mining.
...
Jakubec sat quietly in an orange jumpsuit during the hearing and did not address the judge. His attorney did not say how the mining book or scribbled notes might help his client.

"He just indicated to me that (the book) was very important," Berg told reporters after the hearing.

Jakubec, a 54-year-old unemployed software consultant, has pleaded not guilty to charges of making  
destructive devices and robbing three banks. Authorities have not said why he had the material.
...
Bomb technicians last went into the home on Monday to search for the mining book on the coffee table—as Berg requested—but didn't find it, prosecutors said.

The table was cluttered with documents and laced with numerous detonators and highly unstable Hexamethylene triperoxide diamine, or HMDT, which can explode by someone stepping on it.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 2Revolutions July 21, 2012, 06:39:31 PM
This shooting comes at a convienient time as globalist are trying keep the people from awakening.   Think of the all news that will be ignored by the mainstream media now. 

Libor scandal and euro crisis
Fast and Furious
American Cities going bankrupt
Obama's birth certificate
Mexican fraud elections
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman July 21, 2012, 07:49:16 PM
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252995/396/Witness-Someone-let-gunman-inside-Colorado-movie-theater- (http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252995/396/Witness-Someone-let-gunman-inside-Colorado-movie-theater-)

Witness: Someone let gunman inside Colorado movie theater

A man who was at the Colorado movie theater where a dozen people were killed this morning, says he saw the gunman.

He says he thinks someone deliberately let the gunman inside once the movie started.

Here's what he told TV station KCNC this morning live on their newscast.

"As I was sitting down to get my seat, I noticed that a person came up to the front row, the front right, sat down, and as credits were going, it looked like he got a phone call. He went out toward the emergency exit doorway, which I thought was unusual to take a phone call. And it seemed like he probably pried it open, or probably did not let it latch all the way. As soon as the movie started, somebody came in, all black, gas mask, armor, and threw a gas can into the audience, and it went off, and then there were gunshots that took place."

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hardrain77 July 21, 2012, 08:40:53 PM
What no one has been able to answer yet is did the guy that pried the door open ever sit back down in the front row. All the reports confirm that a guy from the front row got up and opened the door. Is this the same red haired James Holmes, or is this someone else?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: chris jones July 21, 2012, 09:03:48 PM
 Crude but effective, a professional crew pulled this off, month of prepration, profiling, brain dipping, proper timing an various other results due to this abomination.
 Two men were involved in the actual attack, the controlled suspect,(dupe) taking the blame for all of it.
 No word as to his interrogation or his statements, a very prearranged FF.
  The history of this man as* has been skilfully* done by you guys verifys his programing.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Valerius July 21, 2012, 11:07:27 PM
Why do they keep calling this guy a loner when clearly he was not?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 21, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
Why do they keep calling this guy a loner when clearly he was not?

Because their bosses tell them to. Their bosses create reality and are proud of it. It’s about money and job security. The truth has been irrelevant for quite some time now.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 22, 2012, 12:24:38 AM
Who had foreknowledge--Dick Cheney???
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread862042/pg1#pid14586462
  ...  As she asked Rove about when Romney will announce his VP something caught my attention.
Rove explains that Romney has some choices here. He could announce his VP after the Olympics so that the announcement will get maximum attention. The second option and his bizarre explanation follows: He said that if Romney announces his VP this week (Keep in mind that the Olympic Games start next Friday July 27) or sometime before the games Something may happen that will captivate the American people's attention that will make us forget all about the VP choice and maybe the election itself!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hal 9000 July 22, 2012, 12:44:43 AM
This picture was recently posted on an internet dating site by a man claiming to be from Aurora, Colorado -

(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/James-Holmes-AdultFriendFinder-photoshop.jpg)

Was this Holmes guy so lonely and frazzled by SSRI's he would post a photoshopped image of himself with an anonymous girl on this dating site?
Is it really even him, or possibly a lookalike?

Sceptics of this theory should check out the work of JFK researcher John Armstrong, who has shown in his book "Harvey and Lee: How the CIA murdered John Kennedy" that there were in fact two seperate men who shared the same identity and name. Both had their lives merged in their childhoods and even had almost identical looking mothers with the same first names. One spoke fluent Russian, and was a well read intellectual, while the other was slightly stockier and often got into fist fights. Same thing with MLK assassin (accused) James Earl Ray. He frequently used the names and identities of two different men, one of whom was named Eric Starvo Galt. Both had identical scars and tattoos also. Amidst all this, Hinckley and Chapman also come to mind. This is black op stuff, and me thinks this new mass shooting wreaks of something very similar. It's got black ops written all over it.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 22, 2012, 01:19:45 AM
Same thing with MLK assassin (accused) James Earl Ray. He frequently used the names and identities of two different men, one of whom was named Eric Starvo Galt.
That's how I got my name 'starvosan' - meaning 'starvo in san diego.'

-------------

Anyway they are now looking for a second 'person of interest':

http://kdvr.com/2012/07/21/police-looking-for-second-person-of-interest-in-theater-shooting/

excerpt

"Neighbors of the person of interest say for the past two days there have been SWAT team and police cars in their alley and unmarked cars in street.
“He’s been there about a year,” said one neighbor.
Agents showed up again this morning.
“I woke up this morning with cops still here trying to look inside his home.  At 5:00 a.m. cops showed-up and asked me about (him).”
Sources tell Justin Joseph someone made either a call or a text from the person of interest’s phone threatening violence if James Egan Holmes was not released from jail. That call prompted police to issue an alert to find and detain him."
The person of interest’s Facebook page shows he has a master’s degree in bio-medical science.
Anshutz Medical Center confirms he is in their doctorate program, the same program from which Holmes withdrew several months ago.  ....
As for the person of interest, all law enforcement jurisdictions, local, state and federal, are looking for him.
Neighbors say he and his roommate left their home hours before the massacre.  They haven’t seen him since.

Person of interest ID'ed as Yoem Pyo Lee.  Looks and sounds Korean.
Facebook page here:
http://www.facebook.com/yeompyo

Most doctoral candidates don't bother with threatening the police.  Must be a very high pressure program;  they are cracking right and left.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hal 9000 July 22, 2012, 03:37:01 AM
Didn't know that Starvosan. Was Eric Starvo Galt from San Diego?

As for this character, I have a hunch that he was programmed to be at this theater in the swat team getup, while a "wet team"  did the actual shooting. The guy was probably living in a hypnotized dream state, unable to distinguish movie fantasy from reality. All they had to do was get the patsy at the scene, so whacked out of his mind that he would never be able to reveal any important details concerning his handlers. he probably even really believes he did it all by himself. He supposedly told the cops that he was The Joker himself. The whole thing wreaks of hypnosis to me. of course, I could be entirely wrong about all this. Just my hunch at this juncture.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: rustygunn July 22, 2012, 05:27:42 AM
Just heard on the radio that they are NOT looking for a second person.  It was reported that he acted alone. 
They are stopping the accomplice theory.  So early in the investigation...how could they be so sure?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hal 9000 July 22, 2012, 08:15:46 AM
They are stopping the accomplice theory.  So early in the investigation...how could they be so sure?

Watch "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" part 9. The head of the Dallas homicide division, Will Fritz, received a call from LBJ hours after the assassination of JFK informing him that "The investigation is over. You've got your man."  High ranking Freemasons like LBJ have the power to tell local and state police what to do.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Satyagraha July 22, 2012, 08:16:15 AM
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252995/396/Witness-Someone-let-gunman-inside-Colorado-movie-theater- (http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252995/396/Witness-Someone-let-gunman-inside-Colorado-movie-theater-)


As they manage news to construct the narrative, articles contradicting the 'official narrative' will go missing from the internet.
Important to copy entire story before it's wiped. And it will be wiped, count on it.

Witness: Someone let gunman inside Colorado movie theater
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252995/396/Witness-Someone-let-gunman-inside-Colorado-movie-theater-

AURORA, CO -- A man who was at the Colorado movie theater where a dozen people were killed this morning, says he saw the gunman.

He says he thinks someone deliberately let the gunman inside once the movie started.

Here's what he told TV station KCNC this morning live on their newscast.

Expanded coverage

"As I was sitting down to get my seat, I noticed that a person came up to the front row, the front right, sat down, and as credits were going, it looked like he got a phone call. He went out toward the emergency exit doorway, which I thought was unusual to take a phone call. And it seemed like he probably pried it open, or probably did not let it latch all the way. As soon as the movie started, somebody came in, all black, gas mask, armor, and threw a gas can into the audience, and it went off, and then there were gunshots that took place."

Police arrested 24-year-old James Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, for the shootings.

At least 12 people were killed and 38 others wounded when the gunman opened fire during the midnight screening of the newest Batman film, "The Dark Knight Rises."

CNN
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 22, 2012, 11:38:26 AM
Didn't know that Starvosan. Was Eric Starvo Galt from San Diego?
No, but I am!

As for this character, I have a hunch that he was programmed to be at this theater in the swat team getup, while a "wet team"  did the actual shooting.

Some reports now have the shooter also carrying a large 'riot' shield, which is visible in that overhead shot of the back of the theatre where the car was parked.  Since the shooter was also allegedly carrying two long guns and a pistol, one wonders if he even had a free hand to shoot and reload.  All this equipment suggests more than one shooter.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Valerius July 22, 2012, 12:20:15 PM
"James Holmes' Gun Jammed During Aurora Attack, Official Says "

By ALICIA A. CALDWELL 07/22/12

Copyright © 2012 TheHuffingtonPost.com, Inc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/22/james-holmes-gun-jammed-aurora-colorado-dark-knight-shooting_n_1692690.html
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 22, 2012, 01:08:36 PM
Here is what we know here in Denver... and by all means, correct me where I maybe wrong.

Nobody even seen the suspect (Holmes) in the theater.  He doesn't enter into the equation until he is found with gun in hand outside the theater.  

The Aurora police, in an uncharacteristic encounter with an armed suspect, DOES NOT SHOOT THE PATSY SUSPECT!!  Let alone a gunman who is in possession of multiple weapons.   Aurora police are notorious for shooting first and asking questions second.  Also interesting is, that the NWO proxy media is giving the apprehension of Homes very little attention.  Question:  How much attention and propaganda to killing the second amendment can be given during an OJ Simpson hyped made-for-NWO-TV trial?   Answer: PLENTY!

Aurora Police out of ALL the police departments in Denver have the most active relationship with DHS and their 'Threat Fusion Center". The largest threat center in the nation BTW.

Here is an excerpt from the federal government on how the Aurora police are essentially an extension of DHS and the Threat Fusion Center.
http://www.chds.us/?press/release&id=2811
"We have access to classified systems and we read intelligence in various forms to look for pieces of information that may be well served at the state and local level," McGhee said during a recent phone interview. "Our job is to read daily intelligence traffic with an eye for the possible implications for state and local partners in our country. We also review intelligence products from various intelligence community agencies to ensure state, local and tribal interests are addressed."  

The Aurora police admit in the above document that, essentially, they act as a joint 'intelligence' service with DHS which is a direct link to CIA ops.  So, if the feds wanted to, let's say, get the underwear bomber on the airplane, which Denver police department would you call on to help you with such an operation?  Hmmm?  Obviously Aurora police.

Holmes, after supposedly killing children, finds his heart and politely tells Aurora police he's rigged his apartment with booby traps.  Excuse my skepticism but, that certainly doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.  Question: Did someone up high at the Aurora police, who knew of the operation, have a heart and stopped their fellow police officers from getting killed?   OR, are there really no bombs in the apartment and this is just another made-for-TV event to fan the shooting hype flames?  No matter how you slice this 'confession of a killer' it's odd to say very least.

If witnesses were asked to id the shooter NOT ONE OF THEM COULD.  Even the survivors who were up close and personal say they can't id him because of the full body armor.  Which brings us to the next question....

How long does it take to dress in full body armor?
Witnesses said a phone rang and, that seemed to have cued the person who opened the door from the inside.  The witness I heard said, the door opened and shut a few times before the shooting occurred.  Witnesses all agree that the time of the door opening to the shooting was relatively short.  Once again how long does it take to 'gear up in full riot gear'?

Tear gas grenades:
The witness I heard said that there is no doubt, in his mind anyway that, the gas released from the explosion was tear gas and everyone was chocking on it.

Where on earth does a looser working at a MickeyDs get a tear gas grenade?  BTW-  The Proxy MSM has given this very little attention to this?

One last point.
The MSM proxy media uncharacteristically have stayed away from attacking 'conspiracy theorists' (such as myself) on this shooting.  Why?  Oh yeah, Maybe because of the UN wanting Americas guns.

 



    
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 22, 2012, 02:25:41 PM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html
"However, on Friday afternoon, three more patients arrived at the hospital. There is no word on their condition or why they came to the hospital hours later..."

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/20/theater-shooting-gunman-just-firing-picking-random-people/?hpt=hp_bn1
 [About 12 hours later]  Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates just said 71 people were shot in the attack. That raises the number of injuries to 59, dramatically more than the 38 that were being reported.

If you were wounded in the attack, why would you wait 12 hours before going to the hospital?  It was right about this time that the Police Chief dramatically raised the number of people who were shot.  Did the 20 extra casualties just drift in on their own?  Why do I get the feeling that all these more lightly-wounded were kept in a secure location until they agreed not to talk to the media or tell tall tales about another gunman?  The cops did a good job of quickly roping in most of the witnesses, apparently, so why would they miss all these slower walking wounded?

Remember also the early death tool was 14, before it was lowered to 12.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread862529/pg1
"Witness is saying that one of the deceased is an assailant. "
"They did say one was shot and killed in the theater and that the other suspect was in custody. So witnesses did say they're were two shooters."

Are they covering for a second, dead suspect?  Maybe the one who left that bloody trail out the back of the theatre?  If so, then the question becomes, who shot him?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 22, 2012, 03:16:36 PM
How can people be “missing” or unaccounted for?? This makes no sense to me.

Aurora theater shooting: Friends, family of missing seek information
By Kristen Leigh Painter, Kurtis Lee and Andy Vuong
The Denver Post

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21121342/aurora-theater-shooting-friends-family-missing-seek-information
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 22, 2012, 03:23:55 PM
Also, what’s up with this comment? This was posted pretty much at the beginning of the reporting cycle. No elaboration for why she said that.

KCNC-CBS 4 News in Denver said federal authorities notified his mother Arlene Holmes in Rancho Penasquito. When contacted, she said she had to get to Colorado. She told authorities, “You’ve got the right guy.”

http://blog.pe.com/crime-blotter/2012/07/20/colorado-a-shooters-background-started-in-san-diego/
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 22, 2012, 04:37:58 PM
Also, what’s up with this comment? This was posted pretty much at the beginning of the reporting cycle. No elaboration for why she said that.

Yeah right... his mother says "my son is a mass murderer" ....

...his mother Arlene Holmes in Rancho Penasquito. When contacted, she said she had to get to Colorado. She told authorities, “You’ve got the right guy.”

Update:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/holmes-mother-suggests-abc-news-mischaracterized-her-129835.html
Holmes's mother suggests ABC News mischaracterized her statement

Arlene Holmes, the mother of Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes, has suggested that ABC News mischaracterized her when it reported that her initial statement to the reporter, "you have the right person," was a reference to her son.
 
"This statement is to clarify a statement made by ABC media. I was awakened by a call from a reporter by ABC on July 20 about 5:45 in the morning. I did not know anything about a shooting in Aurora at that time," Holmes said in a statement this afternoon, read to the national press by attorney Lisa Damiani. "He asked if I was Arlene Holmes and if my son was James Holmes who lives in Aurora, Colorado. I answered yes, you have the right person. I was referring to myself."

(See also: Full coverage Colorado theater shooting)
 
"I asked him to tell me why he was calling and he told me about a shooting in Aurora," she continues. "He asked for a comment. I told him I could not comment because I did not know if the person he was talking about was my son, and I would need to find out."
 
In the first paragraph of its initial report on Friday, ABC News reported that it had identified the correct James Holmes because his mother "told ABC News her son was likely the alleged culprit, saying, 'You have the right person.'"
 
If Arlene Holmes' latest statement is true, it means that she did not tell ABC News her son was likely the alleged culprit, calling into question the reporting of a network that has already been marred by one inaccuracy.
...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hardrain77 July 22, 2012, 05:01:03 PM
Also, what’s up with this comment? This was posted pretty much at the beginning of the reporting cycle. No elaboration for why she said that.


They probably misquoted her. She may have just been IDing her son through his personal information or address that they were confirming with her. Why say that when this guy has no history of violence or criminal record?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 22, 2012, 08:16:03 PM
Ahhh!! The 'drill' being conducted at the same time:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21126462/real-life-shooting-imitates-training-exercise-at-parker
The tragedy that played out in an Aurora movie theater Friday was ironically paralleled as a classroom learning experience in a medical school in Parker(CO) the same day.
...one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack.
"The irony is amazing, just amazing," said Rocky Vista Dean Dr. Bruce Dubin.

Yeah, just amazing....


: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: America2 July 22, 2012, 08:18:31 PM
Nothing happens by "coincidence" - the fact that the MSM is really running away with this says alot.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 22, 2012, 08:30:40 PM

Operation Mountain Guardian - Sep 24, 2011   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sYnHC3_I1A)

Smedley Elementary School Denver. Homeland Security terror drill in Denver revealed the ultimate goal was to relocate children and at risk populations to FEMA sport stadium relocation centers. Denver Police Victim Assistance Unit director Scott Snow admits in this clip.

A massive Terror Drill remarkably ignored by all but local media is now underway in Denver, Colorado.

More than 100 government agencies are taking part in Operation Mountain Guardian, made possible due to a grant from the Department of Homeland Security through FEMA Region VIII and the State of Colorado Governor's Office of Homeland Security, according to KDVR in Denver.

Mock terror drills will be staged at a mall, an elementary school, a community college, a hospital, and transportation hubs, including the Denver airport.

The exercise is scheduled to begin at 5 a.m. and end by 4:30 p.m., according to ABC 7 News in Denver.  



http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21126462/real-life-shooting-imitates-training-exercise-at-parker
...
The tragedy that played out in an Aurora movie theater Friday was ironically paralleled as a classroom learning experience in a medical school in Parker the same day.

Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is in the middle of holding specialized classes in disaster life support for 150 second-year medical students. Along with response to natural disasters like hurricanes and floods and terrorist attacks, one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack.

"The irony is amazing, just amazing," said Rocky Vista Dean Dr. Bruce Dubin.

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 22, 2012, 08:44:17 PM
http://www.faseb.org/Portals/0/PDFs/opa/CO.pdf
...
The University of Colorado at Denver received NIH grants of $180 million in FY 2011. Part of this money supported research at Children’s Hospital Colorado, which ranked fifth on the U.S. News and World Report Best Children's Hospitals Honor Roll of 2011-12. Biomedical innovations at the hospital include preventing brain injury in premature infants by adding nitric oxide to ventilators and performing the first pediatric liver transplant in the world

http://www.sfn.org/skins/main/pdf/gpa/fact_sheets/co.pdf
...
The Society for Neuroscience has 300 members in Colorado. These neuroscientists and other biomedical researchers at institutions across the state conduct cutting edge research supported by funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH).
Researchers in Colorado were supported in FY2011 by approximately $320,340,902 in NIH funding.
...
Advancing Research
Some of the important progress made by Colorado’s scientists with support from NIH includes:
 $24,250,621 to study substance abuse.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Valerius July 22, 2012, 08:49:50 PM
Incredible, Starvo.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 22, 2012, 10:04:21 PM
...more drills, but this one outside DC - a Columbine style high school gunman:

Prince George’s County Police Train for Mass Shooting
By Pat Collins |  Friday, Jul 20, 2012  |  Updated 9:53 PM EDT
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prince-Georges-County-Police-Train-for-Mass-Shooting-163255586.html (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prince-Georges-County-Police-Train-for-Mass-Shooting-163255586.html)
[with video embed that's not playing for me - have to try it later]

Police in Prince George’s County had mass shooting on the mind before the overnight massacre at a screening of the latest Batman movie in Aurora, Colo. The department carried on with its previously planned mass shooting training exercise Friday.

Though planned months ago, the training took on new meaning just hours after the tragedy in Colorado.

The exercise simulated a gunman on the loose at Wise High School in Upper Marlboro, Md. Though the victims were acting, real snipers, SWAT teams, bomb squads and K-9 units were ready.

Police used their Peace Keeper, the vehicle the SWAT team rides, which is not only bulletproof, but armor-piercing bulletproof. It also is equipped with the Patriot, which allows the team to make upstairs entries.

Positioning police in strategic places can prevent attacks, police said. The public can help as well by staying alert and reporting suspicious activity, Assistant Chief Kevin Davis said.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 22, 2012, 10:21:56 PM
...same event as above but, working video.

VIDEO: School Shooting Drill A Timely Exercise
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/213610/189/VIDEO-School-Shooting-Drill-A-Timely-Exercise (http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/213610/189/VIDEO-School-Shooting-Drill-A-Timely-Exercise)
6:50 PM, Jul 20, 2012   

PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, Md. (WUSA)- Preparing for an eventuality they hope never comes, members of the Prince George's County police practiced on Friday what to do in the case of a shooting at a school.

The exercise took on a timely sense in the wake of the tragic shooting in Colorado, heightening the intensity of the drill.

9News Now photojournalist Greg Guise was along for the drill, and his video, above, shows the key elements of a successful exercise.

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 22, 2012, 10:24:09 PM
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ly500c66d3.jpg)

Note the "additional evidence" and "gas mask" found a 100 feet away from the place where the alleged shooter was arrested.  Probably hurled from a speeding car, imo.


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: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 22, 2012, 10:43:32 PM
Center, CO,... more Columbine-style drills the day after, but posted the day before the Saturday drill with all past tense language in the article which might mean the drill happened the week before:

Mock shooting drill staged Saturday
Posted: Friday, Jul 20th, 2012
By Teresa L. Benns
http://www.centerpostdispatch.com/v2_news_articles.php?heading=0&page=72&story_id=1849 (http://www.centerpostdispatch.com/v2_news_articles.php?heading=0&page=72&story_id=1849)

CENTER — A mock shooting/hostage exercise was held Saturday at the new Center Schools complex with Center Police, School Safety Supervisor Jaime Hurtado and Center Fire Dept. with Center ambulance participating in the event.

The drill was funded by a grant obtained through the Center Fire Department by fire chief Jim Felmlee. A Saguache Sheriff’s office deputy was scheduled to participate but had to respond at the last minute to a high speed chase situation near Villa Grove, newly appointed Undersheriff Tristan Van Zalinge reported Monday.

Van Zalinge said that deputies regularly participate in active shooter training and that several jurisdictions would be involved in any event that would occur.

The scenario for the exercise was an armed shooter entering the school and taking hostages, aided by an accomplice. Center Police responded and tried to isolate and negotiate with the shooter, to no avail. Classrooms were checked one by one and the accomplice was arrested. Students were later evacuated.

The shooter exited the building and released the hostage then attempted to leave the scene. While fleeing the scene, he was shot by police officers. Center Ambulance then removed several wounded and deceased individuals from the school.

John Michael Keyes, father of Emily Keyes, slain during a 2006 shooting incident at Platte Canyon High School in Bailey, says that the protocol now is for police and SWAT to be proactive and to pursue and incapacitate any shooter. During the Columbine High School shootings in 2000, Jefferson County deputies and other law enforcement agents did not enter the school to actually pursue the two shooters and were roundly criticized for their actions.

Center Schools plans to continue education efforts using Keyes directives to make sure protocols are in place to effectively deal with any potential violence at the school.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Effie Trinket July 22, 2012, 10:44:35 PM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2908809/posts?page=106


Aurora Shooter exhibits classic schizophrenia pattern
Vanity | July 20, 2012 | Prospero
Posted on Fri Jul 20 2012 15:43:35 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by Prospero

As a classic case of national hysteria slowly peaks, still within 24 hours after the massacre of theater-patrons attending a premier of the latest "Batman" thriller in Aurora, Colorado, it's become increasingly difficult to maintain a rational perspective.

Apparently without any shame whatsoever, an embattled White House still cannot hesitate to push itself out in front of the trickle of information coming out in the wake of these multiple murders.

That as many or more people will die in "random" shootings on the streets of major U.S. cities, Chicago in particular, on an average weekend, this July, still escapes the notice of our entertainment news-readers and other media.

Without any other obvious motive, however, and looking dispassionately for the most reasonable known pattern that fits the facts known at this hour about this massacre, and its lone perpetrator, I think it will eventually be determined that Mr. Holmes suffers from hereditary schizophrenia.

The vast majority of the organic types of that disease are males, often regarded as highly intelligent, and who rarely begin showing the first truly "full-blown" symptoms of such a disease until just prior to their 25th birthday.

Elaborate and fantastic delusions, resembling a nightmarish dream-state, that usually accompany the full, untreated symptoms of this very terrible disease are often so compelling, and build so slowly (and its sufferers often have such credibility or, in many cases, demonstrate such charisma) that loved ones and friends rarely catch on to their true state of mind until they disappear, or it is otherwise "too late."

Though the frightening episodes accompanying this disease very rarely strike such a responsive chord in national news cycles they are almost always devastating, inside a much smaller circle. Usually destroying families and friendships.

So far. at least, Mr. Holmes outrageous demonstration of the apparent symptoms of this disease, or another illness in the same family, still seems quite within a regular pattern, as horrific as that might seem to those who are unfamiliar with schizophrenia.

The reactions of the national news industry, in the immediate short term, and those of his victims, to this intrusion of the symptoms of a classic mental illness, is quite understandable.

Few are unfortunate enough to ever experience becoming drawn into the damaged circle of a schizophrenic's broken thinking, over our lifetimes.

This does not mean, however, that schizophrenia is unknown to law enforcement, competent political leadership, or the health establishment. Far from it.

For a White House, or the mayor of a large city elsewhere, to take such full and shameless political opportunity from a the short-term trauma and shock to the national peace and loss of perspective is nothing short of criminal.

As this president operates within his own diseased pattern of not allowing any tragedy to go to waste, over the course of the next few hours, before the situation elsewhere, likely Syria, distracts his fawning, ignorant fan base in the national media, keep these thoughts in mind.
________

"Mind control isn’t less a possibility than claiming the after affects of pot smoking is responsible for the inhuman behaviour of the shooter or diagnosing schizophrenia from what one might have learned from the noise coming out of the tv.

At least there is something to connect the possibility of exposure of the shooter to mind control, starting with Darpa and UC Riverside.

First, Darpa’s interest:
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/07/holy-acronym-darpa-batman-robin-to-master-biology-outdo-evolution/

or another version: http://www.noonehastodietomorrow.com/tech/weaponry/2385

UCR’s efforts from http://www.fiatlux.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/display.cgi?id=108

Funding CNID
The Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA) and Defense MicroElectronics Activity (DMEA) sponsor the three-campus CNID. The center aims at the control and understanding of nanoscale materials, with applications in information and communications technology.

and from http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/5923

$4.4 million from DARPA to establish the Center for Nanoscience Innovation for Defense (CNID). A collaboration with UCLA, UC Riverside, 10 industrial partners, and the National Laboratories, CNID will inform government and industry about innovative fundamental science and technology and keep companies and defense contractors abreast of new developments in four areas applicable to next-generation computers— advanced communication technologies, nanoscale semiconductors, new sensors, and imaging systems.

Throwing this one in for lobster lovers. Maybe be useful, maybe not. http://www.neurotechnology.neu.edu/ayers.html

As you noted, Prospero, the level of organization did not necessarily fit the pattern of most schizophrenic behaviour. But I’d bet there is another behavioural pattern that could be identified from terror event to terror event.

Another opinion."
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 22, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ly500c66d3.jpg)


BTW-
This theater WAS A GUN FREE ZONE and, look what happened.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hardrain77 July 22, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ly500c66d3.jpg)

Note the "additional evidence" and "gas mask" found a 100 feet away from the place where the alleged shooter was arrested.  Probably hurled from a speeding car, imo.


/

Could this be the mysterious car with Tennessee license plates that was initially reported making the getaway and tossing out the gas mask? And also there was a single trail of blood leading out the backdoor of the theater that was visible in some photos.  Could've been a random victim, or also could've been the second assailant may have accidentally gotten shot and was rushing out to the car. I remember the initial news reports all had 14 deaths before the number got set at 12.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: HAZMAT July 22, 2012, 11:27:30 PM
What no one has been able to answer yet is did the guy that pried the door open ever sit back down in the front row. All the reports confirm that a guy from the front row got up and opened the door. Is this the same red haired James Holmes, or is this someone else?

He had his gear stashed outside, James Holms got up walked out the fire exit and probably propped it open, put his gear on and burst back in. I think thats why people think there are two gun men but to each their own. His helmet and gear are being diagrammed where he got them before use, the gas mask and additional evidence is next to where he was arrested running from police probably...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 22, 2012, 11:27:59 PM
more drills in the last week:

SWAT simulates downtown disaster
Updated: Thursday, 19 Jul 2012, 6:05 PM EDT
INDIANAPOLIS
http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/marion_county/swat-simulates-downtown-disaster (http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/marion_county/swat-simulates-downtown-disaster)

Tampa school prepares students with school shooting drill
The tragic shootings in Colorado reinforced the need for a plan during extreme situations. One Tampa school demonstrated to students just how important that plan can be - by staging a school shooting drill.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/1745724837001/1/Tampa-school-prepares-students-with-school-shooting-drill (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/1745724837001/1/Tampa-school-prepares-students-with-school-shooting-drill)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 23, 2012, 12:59:45 AM
Here is a great example how the media twists the evidence to make the patsy look guilty:

http://liveblog.washingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/colorado-theater-shooting/
ABC News says that its reporters called a woman in San Diego they believed to be the mother of James Holmes, 24, who is in police custody following a mass shooting in a Colorado movie theater early Friday morning.
The woman reportedly told reporters that she was unaware of the shooting and had not yet been contacted by authorities. She told them that she was the mother of James Holmes.
You have the right person,” the woman reportedly told ABC News reporters. “I need to call the police… I need to fly out to Colorado.”

Clearly, in the context of the interview with reporters, not police, she is talking about herself, not her son!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 23, 2012, 01:45:28 AM
Thank you starvosan! Another question answered.

(http://lokwi.com/upl/3575.jpg)


BTW, just noticed that neither Amy Bishop NOR the Fort Hood shooter have actually gone to trial yet. Those events happened several years ago.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Effie Trinket July 23, 2012, 02:51:27 AM
http://www.wwlp.com/dpps/news/national/west/shooting-suspect-gun-club-membership-rejected_4246369

Shooting suspect gun club membership rejected
Updated: Sunday, 22 Jul 2012, 6:27 PM EDT
Published : Sunday, 22 Jul 2012, 6:27 PM EDT

GILLIAN FLACCUS,Associated Press
NICHOLAS RICCARDI,Associated Press
AURORA, Colo. (AP) - The suspect in the Colorado shooting rampage displayed behavior that a gun range owner thought was "bizarre," but it is still unclear if anyone at the university where he studied had any hint of his plans.

Photos: Mass shooting at Colo. movie theater

Police said James Holmes began buying guns at Denver-area stores nearly two months before Friday's shooting. He also received at least 50 packages in four months at his home and the University of Colorado that authorities are investigating to see whether they contained materials for the potentially deadly booby traps that police found in his apartment.

At the same time, the quiet 24-year-old was in the final weeks of the first year of a rigorous Ph.D. neuroscience program, where he took a three-part final exam required for students to progress in the program and was scheduled to give a presentation on MicroRNA Biomarkers before abruptly leaving in June.

Holmes is being held without bond on suspicion of multiple counts of first-degree murder after a shooting rampage minutes into a premiere of "The Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora early Friday that left 12 people dead and 58 injured.

He is scheduled for an initial hearing Monday and has been assigned a public defender.

Amid the continuing investigation of Holmes and his background, Sunday was a day for healing and remembrance in Aurora, with President Barack Obama arriving to visit with families of the victims and a vigil planned later in the evening.

Congregations across Colorado prayed for the shooting victims and their relatives. Churches sent out social-media appeals for neighbors who wanted to join in remembrance. Elderly churchgoers at an aging Presbyterian church within walking distance near Holmes' apartment joined in prayer, though none had ever met him.

Holmes was being held in solitary confinement at a Denver-area county detention facility and was not cooperating to authorities, Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said.

"He lawyered up. He's not talking to us," the chief said.

Authorities are working with FBI behavioral analysts and are looking into Holmes' relationships to figure out a motive, which could take months, Oates said.

The gunman's semiautomatic assault rifle jammed during the attack at the Aurora movie theater, forcing him to switch to another gun with less firepower, a federal law enforcement official told The Associated Press. That malfunction and weapons switch during the shooting rampage might have saved some lives.

Oates said a 100-round ammunition drum was found in the theater but said he did not know whether it jammed or emptied.

The owner of a gun range told the AP that Holmes applied to join the club last month but never became a member because of his behavior and a "bizarre" message on his voice mail.

He emailed an application to join the Lead Valley Range in Byers on June 25 in which he said he was not a user of illegal drugs or a convicted felon, said owner Glenn Rotkovich. When Rotkovich called to invite him to a mandatory orientation the following week, he said he heard a message on Holmes' voice mail that was "bizarre — guttural, freakish at best."

He left two other messages but eventually told his staff to watch out for Holmes at the July 1 orientation and not to accept him into the club, Rotkovich said.

Three days after the massacre, it still remained unclear whether Holmes' professors and other students at his 35-student Ph.D. program noticed anything unusual about his behavior. His reasons for quitting the program in June, just a year into the five- to seven-year program, also remained a mystery.

The university declined to release any details of his academic record, citing privacy concerns, and at least two dozen professors and other staff declined to speak with the AP. Some said they were instructed not to talk publicly about Holmes in a blanket email sent to university employees.

Jacque Montgomery, a spokeswoman for the University of Colorado medical school, said that police have told the school to not talk about Holmes.

The university also took down the website for its graduate neuroscience program on Saturday.

Dan Keeney, president of DPK Public Relations in Dallas, said asking for silence from university employees because of a police investigation was appropriate, but taking down the website was "indefensible" for a publicly funded university unless the school believed it contained inaccurate information relating to the suspect.

"It's an indefensible action," he said. "It's disappointing to hear that they would take that action because it suggests that it's not in the public's interest to have access to that information and I think it is in the public's interest."

The school took down the neuroscience department's site at the request of faculty and staff who had privacy concerns, Montgomery said

The University of Colorado also disclosed it was cooperating with police who were looking into whether Holmes used his position as a graduate student to order materials in the potentially deadly booby traps that police said they found in his apartment.

The apartment was booby trapped with jars of liquids, explosives and chemicals that could have killed "whoever entered it," Oates said, noting it would have likely been one of his officers. Investigators spent hours removing the explosive materials Saturday.

Among the dead was a 6-year-old girl and a man who died on his 27th birthday and a day before his wedding anniversary. Families grieved and waited at hospitals, with police reporting 11 people still in critical condition as of Saturday.

While authorities continued to refuse to discuss a possible motive for one of the deadliest mass shootings in recent U.S. history, details about Holmes' background as a student and would-be scientist trickled out.

He had recently withdrawn from the competitive graduate program in neuroscience at the University of Colorado Denver, where he was one of six pre-thesis Ph.D. students at its Neuroscience Program to be funded by a prestigious grant from the National Institutes of Health. The program of 35 students is dedicated to training outstanding neuroscientists and academicians who will make significant contributions to neurobiology, the university said in a statement.

In the first year of the five- to seven-year program, students take classes and complete three, three-month research rotations in the labs of different professors.

Professors who worked with him either did not return calls or declined to comment, saying police and university officials had told them not to speak to the media.

At one point in the year, Holmes was engaged in research about RNA and was to present a paper May 8 about RNA Biomarkers, according to a class schedule. It was unclear if he presented the paper.

Holmes recently took an intense, three-part oral exam that marks the end of the first year. Those who do well continue with their studies and shift to full-time research, while those who don't do well meet with advisers and discuss their options, including retaking the exam.

University officials would not say if he passed, citing privacy concerns.

The university said Holmes gave no reason for his withdrawal, a decision he made in June.

Holmes was not allowed access from the institution after his withdrawal, which was "standard operating procedure" because he was no longer affiliated with the school, Montgomery said. Holmes had no contact with university police, she said.

A resume posted on Monster.com paints a picture of a brilliant young man brimming with potential: He worked as a summer intern at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla in 2006 and mapped the neurons of Zebra finches and studied the flight muscles of hummingbirds while an undergraduate at the University of California, Riverside.

Ritchie Duong, a friend who has known Holmes for more than a decade, told the Los Angeles Times that in high school he liked to play cards and video games. They both attended undergraduate school at the University of California, Riverside, where they saw each other once a week to watch the TV show "Lost."

Duong last saw Holmes in December when they met for dinner in Los Angeles and saw a movie together. His friend seemed fine, he told the newspaper.

Academics came easily to Holmes both at high school and at the UC Riverside, Duong said.

"I had one college class with him, and he didn't even have to take notes or anything. He would just show up to class, sit there, and around test time he would always get an 'A,'" said Duong, 24.

During the attack early Friday, Holmes set off gas canisters and used the military-style semiautomatic rifle, a shotgun and a pistol to open fire on the unsuspecting theater-goers, Oates said. Holmes had bought the weapons at local gun stores in the past two months. He recently purchased 6,000 rounds of ammunition over the Internet, the chief said.

The gun that jammed had a high-capacity ammunition magazine, according to the federal law enforcement official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity in order to discuss the investigation. Police have said that a 100-round drum magazine was recovered at the scene and that such a device would be able to fire 50 to 60 rounds a minute.

The federal official spoke on condition of anonymity to in order to discuss the investigation, said the disabled weapon.

The Batman movie, the last in the trilogy starring Christian Bale, opened worldwide Friday with midnight showings in the U.S. "The Dark Knight Rises" earned $30.6 million in the midnight screenings, and, according to industry estimates, roughly $75 million on that day as a whole. That put it on track for a weekend total of around $160 million, which would be the second-highest opening weekend ever, following "The Avengers."

The shooting was the worst in the U.S. since the Nov. 5, 2009, attack at Fort Hood, Texas. An Army psychiatrist was charged with killing 13 soldiers and civilians and wounding more than two dozen others.

Across the street from the movie theater, a man who placed 15 crosses near Columbine High School after a 1999 massacre there has returned to Colorado with 12 crosses for the victims of Friday's shooting.

Greg Zanis, of Aurora, Ill., put up the 3 1/2-foot-tall crosses Sunday on a hill across the street from the Century 16 theater.

___

Associated Press contributors to this report include, Kristen Wyatt, and P. Solomon Banda in Aurora; Dan Elliott, Colleen Slevin in Denver; and Alicia A. Caldwell and Eileen Sullivan in Washington.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 23, 2012, 06:49:26 AM
An annalysist just on CNN a few moments ago said that Holmes' neighbors described him as an introvert and that they rarely even saw anyone come or go from the apartment, "...just a guy 'r girl."

Nothing yet about his appearance or demeanor suggests a feminine mistakability. 

However,... and it might be a slim however, but what seem's to have been a throwaway line in yesterday's Infowars broadcast about a female handler in Holmes' Manchurianness now has a potential factual reference point.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 23, 2012, 07:23:42 AM
ABC America this Morning (cue the ominous voice):

"Police found more evidence of his Batman obsession.  They found a poster and a mask in his apartment."

Talk about shaping the info.  If a movie poster and one costume/toy qualify as precursors to obsessive yet motiveless mass murder then we should believe that 50%+ of every gen x, gen y and gen z person on the planet is about to become spree killers with cartoonishly perverse personas.

One more reason to view the main stream media as the River Styx so to speak:

Lethe (lee-thee), the river of forgetfulness, was one of the five rivers of the Greek underworld, the other four being Styx (the river of hate), Akheron (the river of sorrow), Kokytos (the river of lamentation) and Phlegethon (the river of fire). According to Statius, it bordered Elysium, the final resting place of the virtuous. Ovid wrote that the river flowed through the cave of Hypnos, god of sleep, where its murmuring would induce drowsiness.

The shades of the dead were required to drink the waters of the Lethe in order to forget their earthly life. In the Aeneid, Virgil writes that it is only when the dead have had their memories erased by the Lethe that they may be reincarnated.
- wiki
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 23, 2012, 07:43:49 AM
...more drills in the last week:

Casper [Wyoming] Police: We Do Regular Active Shooter Drills
By: Kevin Koile  |  3 days ago  
http://k2radio.com/casper-police-explain-how-they-prepare-for-denver-shooting-type-situations/ (http://k2radio.com/casper-police-explain-how-they-prepare-for-denver-shooting-type-situations/)
Be aware of what’s going on around you. take note of everything and call the police department or contact management and just draw attention to whatever it is that’s causing you to think, ‘Gosh, that just doesn’t seem right.’

Sergeant Ahmed says withdrawal is one of many signs that someone might have some problems or issues.



U-46, police and fire departments simulate school shooting in emergency drill
Elgin, Illinois (roughly 40 mi (64 km) northwest of Chicago)
Article updated: 7/17/2012 5:14 PM
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120717/news/707179724/ (http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120717/news/707179724/)
The district has conducted annual training sessions with the police department since 2007. Previous drills have been held at Abbott Middle School, as well as Elgin and Larkin high schools.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 23, 2012, 08:10:56 AM
...another massive drill 11 days ago (notice the reproduced talking points from 'multiple' news sources - like the Matrix copies of the black cat):

Police simulate school shooting
Published on Jul 16, 2012 by ObserverNewspaper
Houston, Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN8VFH-auo0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN8VFH-auo0)
Police officers took part in a mock school shooting drill at Atascocita High School on July 12, 2012. Law enforcement personnel from all over the Houston and surrounding areas took part in the exercises designed to simulate a hostage event in a school setting.


yourhoustonnews.com Atascocita Observer Atascocita News .
VIDEO: Police simulate school shooting
http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/atascocita/news/video-police-simulate-school-shooting/article_2a9e70d4-cf85-11e1-92ab-0019bb2963f4.html (http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/atascocita/news/video-police-simulate-school-shooting/article_2a9e70d4-cf85-11e1-92ab-0019bb2963f4.html)
Humble Police host active shooter exercise at Atascocita High School
Police officers take part in a mock school shooting drill at Atascocita High School on July 12, 2012. Law enforcement personnel from all over the Houston and surrounding areas took part in the exercises designed to simulate a hostage event in a school setting.


Posted: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:30 pm | Updated: 8:28 am, Wed Jul 18, 2012.
VIDEO: Police simulate school shooting JASON FOCHTMAN Houston Community Newspapers
Posted on July 16, 2012
 by jfochtman
Police officers took part in a mock school shooting drill at Atascocita High School on July 12, 2012. Law enforcement personnel from all over the Houston and surrounding areas took part in the exercises designed to simulate a hostage event in a school setting.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 23, 2012, 11:27:01 AM
More Details On Holmes...

I spoke with a Radio Shack Employee (Aurora).  He said Holmes came in and bought a boat load of electronics.  One of the other employees asked Holmes what he was going to do with all that stuff Holmes replied "Make Bombs".

Radio Shack called police but, Holmes had already paid in cash and was out the door.

So when this is 'officially' made public the government will use the Aurora shooting "paying in cash" to demonize bartering, garage sales... any cash transactions my guess.  
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 23, 2012, 12:12:24 PM
Court hearing with Holmes just happened. Almost 72 hrs into police custody. He looked completely incoherant and blasted out his mind - what's he on that lasts that long? or is he on someone else's stuff?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 23, 2012, 02:09:03 PM

Barack Obama's small town guns and religion comments

Barack's comments that are generating all of the controversy: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxXUufI3jA)

See previous post regarding ATAC - DOJ - Buckley Space Command connection

http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_21133479/aurora-theater-shooting-president-obama-colorado
Obama says Aurora theater shooting victims will be remembered
President speaks in Colorado after visiting with victims at University Hospital
By Allison Sherry and Sarah Simmons
The Denver Postdenverpost.com
Posted:   07/22/2012 03:33:03 PM MDT
July 23, 2012 2:14 AM GMTUpdated:   07/22/2012 08:14:22 PM MDT

(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2012/0722/20120722__president-obama-colorado-visit~p1.jpg)

President Barack Obama arrives at Buckley Air Force Base in Aurora on Sunday before visiting with victims' families of the movie theater shooting. (Stephen Mitchell, The Denver Post

http://archive.boulderweekly.com/121505/coverstory.html
Warriors, rescuers, spooks - 12/15/2005
The U.S. military's involvement in domestic affairs is growing.

By Terje Langeland (editorial@boulderweekly.com)
...
Behind a series of doors inside a building at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, a couple dozen people sit inside a conference-style room, each watching multiple computer screens.

There are soldiers, sailors, Coast Guard officers, a National Guardsman, a Canadian military officer, civilian specialists, a lawyer, a meteorologist and a chaplain. Two big video screens loom on the wall in front of them, on this particular occasion displaying computerized maps titled "Operation Western Vigilance" and "Hurricane Support."
...
Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo, who has made a name for himself by grandstanding on the immigration issue, is pushing for NorthCom to play an even bigger role in sealing the border.
...
Eagle Eyes and MAGIC

Increasingly, evidence of military participation in the domestic surveillance dragnet also is falling into place:

* NorthCom boasts an intelligence "fusion center" that analyzes intelligence from, and exchanges it with, a multitude of sources, including the FBI and local law enforcement. Based on various reports, the total number of intelligence agents working for NorthCom at Peterson and other bases appears to be somewhere between 150 and 300.

* Across the nation, states are setting up similar federally funded "fusion centers" to collect and analyze intelligence related to homeland security from local, state and federal law enforcement agencies. Colorado's Department of Public Safety opened a fusion center in Centennial, south of Denver, last April. The military initially had at least one person permanently assigned to the center, according to Lance Clem, a spokesman. Clem wouldn't provide further details on the military's role at the center.

* The White House is considering expanding the power of a little-known Pentagon agency called the Counterintelligence Field Activity, or CIFA, the Washington Post reported last month. The proposal would give the agency, formed three years ago to protect military facilities from attack, the authority to investigate crimes within the United States such as treason, foreign or terrorist sabotage or even economic espionage. Meanwhile, the Department of Defense has pushed legislation to allow the FBI and others to share information gathered about U.S. citizens with the Pentagon, the Post has reported.

* The Air Force Office of Special Investigations three years ago launched an anti-terrorism program dubbed "Eagle Eyes," which urges Air Force personnel and civilians alike to report "suspicious activities" in their communities. Two years ago, Air Force investigators involved with the program showed up at a church in Colorado Springs, where a New York film crew was attending an activist event. The investigators demanded to see footage the crew had shot earlier in the day outside Schriever Air Force Base.

* At least two military agencies have attended meetings of a Colorado organization known as the Multi-Agency Group Intelligence Conference, or MAGIC. Made up of intelligence officials from local, state and federal law enforcement, the group began meeting bimonthly in 1987 to exchange information on "extremist groups," a term that included environmentalists and "left-wing" and "right-wing" organizations. An attendance sheet shows that agents from the Army Criminal Investigation Division at Fort Carson, and from the Department of Defense at Buckley Air National Guard Base in Aurora, attended a 1992 MAGIC meeting. CU and Boulder police were also in attendance.

* The military also participates in a similar intelligence-sharing network run by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Denver, called the Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council. In addition to local, state and federal law enforcement officers from throughout Colorado, the council includes members of the Department of Defense Criminal Investigative Service and Fort Carson's Naval Reserve. The Boulder County Sheriff's office also participates in the network.

* Two years ago, the Pentagon decided to assign "military special agents" to each of the FBI's 56 field offices, whose job would be to track "potential threats to the military," according to the Los Angeles Times. A spokeswoman for the FBI in Denver, Monique Kelso, confirms that military agencies participate in the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, although she refuses to provide further details.

...
Fusion centers also are convenient mechanisms to work around legal restrictions, Pyle says. "Only the feds are bound by the federal laws, and only the state officials are bound by the state law, and so you just hand [the intelligence] across the desk, and the other person collects it," he explains

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckley_Air_Force_Base
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Buckley_AFB.png/610px-Buckley_AFB.png)

Buckley Air Force Base (IATA: BFK, ICAO: KBKF, FAA LID: BKF) is a United States Air Force base in Aurora, Colorado
...
Buckley Air Force Base is an Air Force Space Command base that serves more than 92,000 active duty, National Guard, Reserve and retired personnel throughout the Front Range community. Buckley AFB defends America through its air operations, space-based missile warning capabilities, space surveillance operations, space communications operations and support functions

[ Notice the acyrnym - ATAC - K ]  

http://www.justice.gov/usao/co/community/atac/index.html

Colorado's Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council (ATAC)

Advisory Council Information
FBI/JTTF
Department of Homeland Security
ATAC Membership
ATAC Contact Information

Colorado's Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council (ATAC) Information
The Attorney General of the United States directed every U.S. Attorney to establish an Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council.  These advisory councils coordinate the dissemination of information and the development of investigative and prosecutorial strategy in dealing with terrorism throughout the country.  The advisory councils also provide the operational foundation for a concerted national assault against terrorism.

The Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council serves several purposes.  

First, each council acts as a conduit for information about suspected terrorists between the federal and local agencies. The intelligence obtained will then be disseminated to the local law enforcement officials who can assist in monitoring terrorist networks on the local level.  

Second, the council serves as a coordinating body for implementing the operational plan for the prevention of terrorism.  

Third, the Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council serves as a standing organizational structure for a coordinated response to a terrorist incident occurring in the district.

Finally, the task force will provide and coordinate training for state and local law enforcement agencies.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/briefing_room/ns/index.html

"As Attorney General, I am proud to be here among you today, to acknowledge your difficult work and your dedication, and to let you know that I am committed to supporting your continued success.  It is critical that we do not relax our guard in the battle against either global or domestic terrorism – that we not become complacent.  You have proven yourselves innovative and effective leaders in the fight against terrorism and I want you to know that the President and I are grateful for your work and will fully support you in every way we can."

       -- Attorney General Eric Holder at the National ATAC  Conference, October 1, 2009

http://www.justice.gov/usao/briefing_room/ns/coordinators.html
(http://www.justice.gov/usao/briefing_room/ns/images/Webinar_2_Regional_ATAC_Coordinators_Map.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 23, 2012, 02:23:45 PM
Known Illuminous-poser, and candidate for the former Whore of Babylon Crown, Madonna has become the newest pawn in the UN gun grabber gambit and full spectrum dominance of the debate leading up to this treason.  She is playing the part of the profane gun user, full of passionate crimes and morally twisted associations and legal grey areas.

Madonna uses guns on concert stage after Colorado shooting
madonna guns on stage
July 23, 2012
By: Heather Tooley
http://www.examiner.com/article/madonna-uses-guns-on-concert-stage-after-colorado-shooting (http://www.examiner.com/article/madonna-uses-guns-on-concert-stage-after-colorado-shooting)

Madonna used guns on stage during one of her live concerts in Scotland over the weekend in light of the Colorado shooting that just occurred early Friday.

According to MSN, police officials urged the pop icon not to have firearms and weapons during the Murrayfield Stadium concert in Edinburgh. It wasn't a good idea given the fact the Aurora shooting in Colorado was fresh in the minds of everyone. As usual, Madonna played by her own rules. She's made headlines with exposing her nipple, buttocks, and other bold moves throughout the year promoting her latest album.

Madonna brandished fake pistols and an AK47 at her concert -- likely a theme she executed for the violent song, "Gang Bang." The lyrics are about a woman who fantasizes about killing her ex-husband for leaving her.

It wasn't a sensitive move on Madonna's part after 12 victims in the Colorado shooting were killed and 50 other injured by a sick gunman. The entertainer isn't known for her sensitivity, but this instance may have gone too far for sure.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 2Revolutions July 23, 2012, 03:42:20 PM
JUDGE SEALS 'BATMAN' SHOOTING CASE

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/07/20/web-news-batman-shooter-sealed/ (http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/07/20/web-news-batman-shooter-sealed/)

Prosecutors fear public scrutiny could 'jeopardize the ongoing investigation'

By Sergio Hernandez Friday, July 20, 2012


An Arapahoe County Court judge has granted a request to seal the case against James Holmes, the 24-year-old shooter who killed 12 and wounded 50 during a screening last night of "The Dark Knight Rises."

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hardrain77 July 23, 2012, 04:55:30 PM
Eyewitness Corbin Date just went on CNN again and said he was shocked not only by Holmes' facial expressions at his hearing today, but by his own recollection, the shooter was more muscular and appeared to know what he was doing

He also said he feels this whole thing is an act, but doesn't know what to believe. He's in obvious post traumatic stress right now, but when and if his head clears, he is a guy to talk to because it seems his mind is trying to tell him not to believe that the drugged up kid could do the work of a covert assassin. What's funny is not one person has yet to mention seeing that carrot top head at the theater that night.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jofortruth July 23, 2012, 07:23:59 PM
Was this the false flag event Obama needed to save his presidency?
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=7977&st=0&
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Constitutionary July 23, 2012, 07:27:58 PM
Yeah it's not going to work.

People are getting wise to Gloabalist tactics.    ;)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 23, 2012, 11:09:39 PM
Colorado Gunman Three Weeks Prior to Shooting was Denied Membership to Gun Range Due to Bizarre Behavier
http://www.thelonestarwatchdog.com/2012/07/23/colorado-gunman-three-weeks-prior-to-shooting-was-denied-memebership-to-gun-range-due-to-bizarre-behavier/

Thank goodness for a few vigilant people who have common sense. It has been reported out of Denver by an head of a rifle range that John Holmes had interest in applying for membership to this group at a shooting range. After the head heard a message on his message machine of very bizarre behavior from John Holmes. He seen this is not the type of person that should be a member or be allowed on the range for the safety of the other clients. His application was denied for very good reason seeing he was a certified nut case.

The head of the range alerted the other members not allow him into the range or give him membership. I am happy they did it because it shows responsible gun owners are much better policing themselves keeping gun safety a top priority and screening members for the well being of their clients on the gun range. If the people at the range did not use good judgement screening people who enter the range. I will tell you what happened.

The anti gun crowd would have demonized this range or gun club being guilty by association.  They would have used this lawful place as a scapegoat for the tragedy. I am very satisfied the people of the club denied Jim Holmes membership for very good reason. This show the law abiding people who own firearms have more credibility then the TSA who hires criminals without a background che ck.

What this Head of the Chub did might be the difference between our right to keep and bear arms being retained or being disarmed slaves at the mercy of tyrants.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 23, 2012, 11:58:48 PM
Eyewitness Corbin Date just went on CNN again and said he was shocked not only by Holmes' facial expressions at his hearing today, but by his own recollection, the shooter was more muscular and appeared to know what he was doing

He also said he feels this whole thing is an act, but doesn't know what to believe. He's in obvious post traumatic stress right now, but when and if his head clears, he is a guy to talk to because it seems his mind is trying to tell him not to believe that the drugged up kid could do the work of a covert assassin. What's funny is not one person has yet to mention seeing that carrot top head at the theater that night.

Corbin Date was on Chris Matthews later on too, and Matthews posed the question about the accomplice, Mr. Date stuck to his assertion that there was indeed an accomplice and even added that he had a goatee.

Chief Oatmeal's account is riddled with red-haired holes, while Mr Date's is stubbornly consistant and eyewitness-point blank in its perspective.  Any emperical minded person has few choices.
: Re: Mass shooting....Eyewitness Is an Actor??
: One Revelator July 24, 2012, 12:52:30 AM
Corbin Date was on Chris Matthews later on too, and Matthews posed the question about the accomplice, Mr. Date stuck to his assertion that there was indeed an accomplice and even added that he had a goatee.

Chief Oatmeal's account is riddled with red-haired holes, while Mr Date's is stubbornly consistant and eyewitness-point blank in its perspective.  Any emperical minded person has few choices.

Just ran across this:

Corbin Dayton or Corbin Dates - BATMAN WITNESS name KEEPS CHANGING
[link to auroramediagrp.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com]

Why is it SO HARD to get this WITNESSES NAME RIGHT?

Is this witness named Corbin Dayton??

[link to www.9news.com]

Or is the witness names Corbin Dates?

[link to www.nbc.com]

then this on the same page

Re: Corbin Dayton or Corbin Dates - BATMAN WITNESS name KEEPS CHANGING
Well, here is Corbin Dayton/Dates/Kent. He is an actor, and a model, and from Aurora:

[link to www.modelmayhem.com]

which leads to this

Hey! Im Corbin. As a young independant actor and photographer,…..

http://www.modelmayhem.com/1573040

Wouldn’t have noticed this except that we were just discussing the use of professional actors in false flag events here:

Are they really killing "people" in these false flag events?
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234459.0
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: cardio July 24, 2012, 05:13:13 AM
Related?

Mass food poisoning at Denver Rescue Mission sends 40 to hospital

By Yesenia Robles
The Denver Postdenverpost.com

Emergency responders are wrapping up their on-site evaluations at the Denver Rescue Mission after a total of about 40 people had to be transported to hospitals for food poisoning.

The 40 people were taken to various hospitals from the Denver Rescue Mission after a turkey dinner made them sick.

Lt. Phil Champagne, a spokesman for the Denver Fire Department, said people started becoming "violently ill" just over an hour after their 5 p.m. dinner.

First responders began arriving at about 7:30 p.m. and were wrapping up about 11 p.m.

About 14 ambulances transported at least two patients each. Lawrence Street has been closed between 22nd and 23rd streets while other people were evaluated outside the center. The street should reopen by 11:30 p.m.

"We eliminated other potential environmental causes," Champagne said.

About 350 people ate dinner at the Denver Rescue Mission Sunday afternoon, and it is believed at least 200 ate turkey that had been donated to the center.

Champagne said the concern is that many left the facility after dinner and may be sick on the streets or the alleys of the city.

"We've started getting calls already, about four or five — relatively nearby — about folks getting really sick," Champagne said. "They are starting to get dehydrated from all the loss of fluids."

Crews are now canvassing downtown Denver looking for any other potentially sick homeless people, and treating some on scene who refused to be transported or were less severely sick.

"These homeless are a hardy bunch," Champagne said...
Read more: Mass food poisoning at Denver Rescue Mission sends 40 to hospital - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21135223/mass-food-poisoning-at-denver-rescue-mission-sends#ixzz21WtdAiCr  

One commenter said:

So Saturday the police receive an email to release holmes that was supposedly sent from a bio med student then sunday an unusual outbreak occurs in the area? hmm. Hope this isn't another holmes related attack on the denver region. This kind of thing would definitely be within the capabilities of someone involved in bio med research. Hope that turkey is getting tested by the cdphe and cdc and hope they pinpoint the origin soon. Too many weird things happening in colorado this summer....

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hal 9000 July 24, 2012, 06:04:48 AM
A woman known as "Crystal Fuller" snapped an image at an Aurora, Col.,  prayer vigil showing what appears to be the shape of an angel with outspread wings formed in the clouds. Yeah, sure. Anyone else find it interesting that Aurora is the Roman Goddess of the Dawn? The shooting happens at a showing of "The Dark Knight (Night) Rises" and it happens in a town with the name of the Roman Goddess of the Dawn". This is something right out of Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut".

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/youreport/Copy_of_colorado-theater-shooting-victims-vigil-angel-woman-says-photo-shows-angel-over-vigil
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hal 9000 July 24, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
Aurora....interesting.......


Ovid tells of Her in his Metamorphoses: he describes Her as being ever-young, and the first to awake, so that She may bring the light of day in Her chariot which She rides into the sky ahead of the Sun. She has a purple mantle that spreads out behind Her as She rides; and She is said to scatter roses and flowers before Her. Others describe Her with great white wings, like Eos. She is said to be the mother of the four winds; though this part of Her legend is Greek, one variant spelling of Her name, Aurura, has the meaning of "breeze or wind". She is considered the mother of the morning star, Lucifer (which means "the Light Bringer")
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: themadness July 24, 2012, 08:16:36 AM
Court hearing with Holmes just happened. Almost 72 hrs into police custody. He looked completely incoherant and blasted out his mind - what's he on that lasts that long? or is he on someone else's stuff?


he was certainly on someone else's stuff. most likely a strong anti-psychotic. i have taken some drugs before for mental health issues and the docs threw an anti-psych at me that i will swear on a bible that had to be a military experimental drug. it was called saphris. they gave it to me to "help with insomnia" it was a small soft tablet that you put under your tongue. the doc said take it 4 hours before my normal bedtime. thirty mins later i was so effed up i was having halusinating and lost all control of my muscular functions. a sort of paralysis if you will. i ended up sleeping for a little more than 12 hours but it seemed like forever. i would classify it as more of a coma than sleep though as it was hard to remember anything after taking it. the doc said it was supposed to melt under my tongue in 5-10 mins but it was much faster. the result was the same mannerisms holmes had. dazed, the eye movements, blank stare, etc. the only thing i remember is almost having to lay down on my front doorstep and needing help to get in the house.

this dude was fried
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Brocke July 24, 2012, 08:52:10 AM

Not a parallel drill, but damn close.


Real life shooting imitates training exercise at Parker medical school

Posted:   07/21/2012 12:41:40 AM MDT
Updated:   07/21/2012 12:43:24 AM MDT

By Nancy Lofholm
The Denver Post

The tragedy that played out in an Aurora movie theater Friday was ironically paralleled as a classroom learning experience in a medical school in Parker the same day.

Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is in the middle of holding specialized classes in disaster life support for 150 second-year medical students. Along with response to natural disasters like hurricanes and floods and terrorist attacks, one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack.

"The irony is amazing, just amazing," said Rocky Vista Dean Dr. Bruce Dubin.

He said emergency specialist physicians from Parkland Hospital in Dallas as well as from several other emergency programs around the country are teaching the Advanced Disaster Life Support Training. Rocky Vista is the only medical school in the nation to make that training a part of the curriculum.

"They are trained to respond in every type of disaster," Dubin said.

The shootings in Aurora were incorporated into the teaching Friday, Dubin said.

"It made these medical students very aware that these kinds of things can happen anywhere," he said. "The events of this tragedy have helped to drive that home."

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21126462/real-life-shooting-imitates-training-exercise-at-parker#ixzz21XlXQNS7
: Re: Mass shooting....Eyewitness Is an Actor??
: Sasha July 24, 2012, 09:14:12 AM
Just ran across this:
then this on the same page
which leads to this
Wouldn’t have noticed this except that we were just discussing the use of professional actors in false flag events here:
Are they really killing "people" in these false flag events?
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234459.0
That's the guy.  Mix that together with the police scanner recording that's blank for the first 11 minutes then full of freak out, but Chief Oats says PD was there in two minutes - a big nine minute discrepency.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: America2 July 24, 2012, 09:15:32 AM
 ::)

http://news.yahoo.com/3-arrested-separate-dark-knight-incidents-080930278.html

3 arrested in separate 'Dark Knight' incidents

7/24/12

At least 3 men accused of making threats during or after watching the new Batman movie have been arrested in separate incidents, underscoring moviegoers' anxieties and heightened security in the wake of a deadly mass shooting at a Colorado theater showing the film.

A Maine man was arrested when he told authorities that he was on his way to shoot a former employer a day after watching "The Dark Knight Rises," Maine state police said Monday.

Timothy Courtois of Biddeford, Maine, had been stopped for speeding, and a police search of his car found an AK-47 assault weapon, four handguns, ammunition and news clippings about the mass shooting that left 12 people dead early Friday, authorities said.

Former graduate student James Holmes, 24, is accused of opening fire in a theater in a Denver suburb. The shooting also injured 58 people.

Courtois said he had attended the Batman movie on Saturday, although police have not confirmed whether he actually saw the film.

"I guess we're taking everything at face value," State Police Lt. Kevin Donovan said. "It's very scary."

Police searched Courtois' home later Sunday and found a machine gun, several other guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

"We don't know what his true intentions were," said Steve McCausland, spokesman for the Department of Public Safety. "Based on the arsenal that was confiscated, we brought in our counterparts from the FBI and ATF to assist with the investigation."

Courtois was charged with speeding and possession of a concealed weapon.

In Southern California, a man at a Sunday afternoon showing of the film was arrested after witnesses said he made threats and alluded to the Aurora shooting when the movie didn't start.

Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies were called to a cinema complex in Norwalk after moviegoers said 52-year-old Clark Tabor shouted: "I should go off like in Colorado." They said he then asked: "Does anybody have a gun?"

A security guard saw Tabor with a backpack on his knees in the second row, but deputies who searched the bag, the theater and its surrounding area did not find any weapon.

Separately, moviegoers in Sierra Visa, Ariz., panicked when a man who appeared intoxicated was confronted during a showing of the movie. The Cochise County Sheriff's office said it caused "mass hysteria" and about 50 people fled the theater.

Off-duty Border Patrol agents tackled Michael William Borboa, 27, who had a backpack with him, according to The Arizona Daily Star. Authorities said it contained an empty alcohol container and a half-empty moonshine bottle.

Borboa was arrested on suspicion of disorderly conduct, and threatening and intimidating.

Despite some jitters over the horrific shooting, moviegoers around the country still flocked to theaters to see the film, which was the final installment of the phenomenally successful Batman trilogy. Warner Bros. reported that it brought in $160.9 million over the weekend, making it the third highest opening weekend ever, after "The Avengers" and "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows — Part 2."

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha July 24, 2012, 09:30:53 AM
he was certainly on someone else's stuff. most likely a strong anti-psychotic. i have taken some drugs before for mental health issues and the docs threw an anti-psych at me that i will swear on a bible that had to be a military experimental drug. it was called saphris. they gave it to me to "help with insomnia" it was a small soft tablet that you put under your tongue. the doc said take it 4 hours before my normal bedtime. thirty mins later i was so effed up i was having halusinating and lost all control of my muscular functions. a sort of paralysis if you will. i ended up sleeping for a little more than 12 hours but it seemed like forever. i would classify it as more of a coma than sleep though as it was hard to remember anything after taking it. the doc said it was supposed to melt under my tongue in 5-10 mins but it was much faster. the result was the same mannerisms holmes had. dazed, the eye movements, blank stare, etc. the only thing i remember is almost having to lay down on my front doorstep and needing help to get in the house.

this dude was fried
Condolences.  What a horrible experience: that doctor was no friend.  I had Pink Floyd's 'Comfortably Numb' playing in my head by the end of your description.

Holmes did look totally fried and as horrific as his crimes (and his accomplice's) may be, who knows how culpable he really is if he's all jacked up on military MK smack? 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: chris jones July 24, 2012, 09:56:53 AM
MSM is rocking on this, so are the pols, gun ownership restrictions will go to a new level..
I feel deeply for any human life snuffed out, the familys of these victims have my sinerest sympathy as do the thousands of troopers killed in their corporate $$ wars, as do the hundreds of thousand innocent civilians slaughtered.
 Who is the shooter and his accomplices, was this man a subject for controll, was he a unversity student majoring in nueroligy, was he profiled and chosen for this, did he volunteer for experimentation. YES.
  Had there been one person in the audience carrying a pistol could he have waked this guy out and saved lives, YES.
Honorable brave men reacted to this and gave their lives to protect their loved ones, the day may come we will be in a situation to do the same for those we love and the freedom we cherish.
 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: chris jones July 24, 2012, 10:44:02 AM
Suspects family..........
Stement.....
"No one from the Aurora Police Department has contacted us, or asked for assistance," she said. Through Damiani, the suspect's mother Arlene Holmes wanted to clarify a statement she made to ABC News in the immediate aftermath of the shooting Friday morning.

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 24, 2012, 11:34:50 AM
Suspects family..........
Stement.....
"No one from the Aurora Police Department has contacted us, or asked for assistance," she said. Through Damiani, the suspect's mother Arlene Holmes wanted to clarify a statement she made to ABC News in the immediate aftermath of the shooting Friday morning

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/holmes-mother-suggests-abc-news-mischaracterized-her-129835.html
Holmes's mother suggests ABC News mischaracterized her statement

Arlene Holmes, the mother of Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes, has suggested that ABC News mischaracterized her when it reported that her initial statement to the reporter, "you have the right person," was a reference to her son.
 
"This statement is to clarify a statement made by ABC media. I was awakened by a call from a reporter by ABC on July 20 about 5:45 in the morning. I did not know anything about a shooting in Aurora at that time," Holmes said in a statement this afternoon, read to the national press by attorney Lisa Damiani. "He asked if I was Arlene Holmes and if my son was James Holmes who lives in Aurora, Colorado. I answered yes, you have the right person. I was referring to myself."

(See also: Full coverage Colorado theater shooting)
 
"I asked him to tell me why he was calling and he told me about a shooting in Aurora," she continues. "He asked for a comment. I told him I could not comment because I did not know if the person he was talking about was my son, and I would need to find out."
 
In the first paragraph of its initial report on Friday, ABC News reported that it had identified the correct James Holmes because his mother "told ABC News her son was likely the alleged culprit, saying, 'You have the right person.'"
 
If Arlene Holmes' latest statement is true, it means that she did not tell ABC News her son was likely the alleged culprit, calling into question the reporting of a network that has already been marred by one inaccuracy.
...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: scandilous July 24, 2012, 11:53:55 AM
thought this was an interesting .jpg

(http://www.imagegainer.com/images/adrock3000/tvu47.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 24, 2012, 11:54:02 AM
Oh and the "Gangster squad" promo:

http://www.kgw.com/news/business/163286986.html

Some theaters still playing 'Gangster Squad' promo .
by Associated Press
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:00 AM

NEW YORK (AP) —
A film trailer featuring mobsters firing automatic weapons into a movie audience was still running in some theaters, even after Warner Bros. pulled the promo following the Colorado shooting during a screening of "The Dark Knight Rises."

Moviegoers from Connecticut to California complained on social media that the trailer for "Gangster Squad" played when they saw "The Dark Knight Rises" on Saturday. The film stars Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling. In a climactic scene, mobsters shoot from behind the screen at a crowded theater audience.

Theaters still playing the trailer appeared to be relatively few. Warner Bros. said it was working with exhibitors to remove the trailer from any theaters still playing it.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/the-gangster-squad/trailer
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 24, 2012, 12:18:22 PM
Two stories - Salk and Summer camp:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/suspected-aurora-shooter-james-holmes-brilliant-a-long-shot-salk-institute-supervisor-john-jacobson-article-1.1120132
Suspected Aurora shooter James Holmes brilliant? Not by a long shot, says former Salk Institute supervisor John Jacobson
 
'He never completed the project. What he gave me was a complete mess,' says Jacobson. 'I basically fired him.'
...

“He should not have gotten into the summer program,” Jacobson, 37, told the Los Angeles Times. “His grades were mediocre. I’ve heard him described as brilliant. This is extremely inaccurate.”
 
Holmes’ high school transcripts showed B’s and B pluses, and no Advanced Placement classes, Jacobson told the Times.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/suspected-aurora-shooter-james-holmes-brilliant-a-long-shot-salk-institute-supervisor-john-jacobson-article-1.1120132#ixzz21Ycuee6r

| - -- -


http://www.virtualjerusalem.com/news.php?Itemid=7530
James Holmes Worked at Jewish Big Brothers Big Sisters Camp

James Holmes, the alleged shooter who killed 12 in a crowded Colorado movie theater, reportedly worked at a summer camp operated by Jewish Big Brothers Big Sisters of Los Angeles.

Holmes, 24, spent a summer working as a counselor for Camp Max Straus in Glendale, Calif., the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday. According to its website, the camp serves underprivileged children of all ethnic and religious backgrounds
...
In a statement to the Los Angeles Times, Randy Schwab, chief executive of Jewish Big Brothers Big Sisters of Los Angeles and director of Camp Max Straus, said of Holmes, "His role was to ensure that these children had a wonderful camp experience by helping them learn confidence, self-esteem and how to work in small teams to effect positive outcomes." In a later e-mail, Schwab added, "That summer provided the kids a wonderful camp experience without incident."
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 24, 2012, 12:43:51 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177294/James-Holmes-broke-girlfriend-just-Dark-Knight-Rises-shooting-spree-Colorado.html?ICO=most_read_module
A former classmate from the University of Colorado suggested another cause for the killings, describing Holmes as someone who had lost touch with reality after becoming 'obsessed' with video games.
The classmate told the Daily Mail: 'James was obsessed with computer games and was always playing role-playing games.
'I can’t remember which one but it was something like World of Warcraft, one of those where you compete against people on the internet.
'He did not have much of a life apart from that and doing his work. James seemed like he wanted to be in the game and be one of the characters.

Given the amount of time the suspect spent on the computer, the computer info has to be a big part of the investigation, especially in regard to motive.  In his book MM0RPG(c. 2010), Dutch author Emile van Veen creates a scenario where a group of terrorists communicates, coordinates, and rehearses their terrorist attacks through their characters on role-playing games.  I'll bet one of the game scenarios Holmes was into was an attack on people in a theatre.  0f course, if police do find such a thing, they would never make that info public.

The shooting was itself ancillary to whatever 'game' scenario Holmes was playing out in his mind at the time.  The inmate in the local jail who said Homes thought he was in 'a movie' probably mistoke a 'game scenario' for a movie.  Norway shooter Anders Breivik also showed symptoms of still being in 'game scenario' long after his arrest.


: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 24, 2012, 01:01:47 PM
First lawsuit reported – nobody is suing Cinemark for its “no guns” policy.

Phase 1, the event, is complete. Phase 2, control of the narrative is in progress. Phase 3, another event to eclipse, distract and shut down public scrutiny of this event hasn’t happened yet.

Questions still unanswered:

-   Why would anybody be “missing”?
-   Why is an eyewitness, an unemployed actor and model with THREE NAMES getting so much attention by corporate media? They only show
     pre-approved interviews.
-   Where did Holmes, an unemployed student, get $10-20K for swat gear?

Once phase 3 happens, these questions will remain unanswered forever.

The press is controlled. The patsy is controlled. (What drug continues to have a stupefying effect 72 hours into custody?) Eyewitnesses are controlled. The courts/lawyers are controlled. The police investigation is controlled. The primary means of control is money.

This strategy of tension, mass shooting combined with limited federal “respect” for the second amendment, combined with calls for gun control, will continue to surge gun sales. They want people well armed for localized destruction of law and order. THEN the gun confiscations will begin using an international peacekeeping force on US soil.
: Corbon Dayton (witness) is Corbin Kent (actor)???
: JConner July 24, 2012, 01:12:31 PM
Look at the photos here: http://www.modelmayhem.com/1573040#VIEWALL

Look at the photo here - http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/278751/635/Witness-I-immediately-hit-the-floor

Looks like the same person.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: JConner July 24, 2012, 01:19:39 PM
And here's Corbin Dates:

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp3_wEj8otdaY1d4gIoyJ3ToS3kMKBuXhP1KYsOngqjXaXcEV4
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: JConner July 24, 2012, 01:24:31 PM
Corbin Kent's website has this to say:

Born and raised in the city of Aurora, self taught by the skills of his unblinded eyes. The new comer was found captivating by many, introducing to the world his way to use the eyes to capture the moments in life we pass by everyday. Not often does this world get the time to just stop and look at what's around, to be able to drop what lingers in their palms, and just look. The breathless moments we can easily sight upon this world is rapidly fading, but to one if you catch it in time, it'll last forever.

found here - http://corbinjkent.wix.com/cjkentphotography#!__page-1
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: hardrain77 July 24, 2012, 04:00:26 PM
Alot of actors and media types are film buffs that usually attend midnight screenings anyway. Whether or not these are actors playing their part in the "drill" is unknown, though I find it interesting that Corbin keeps going off 'script' and mentions a second accomplice now more than once. He even got a headline on Drudge all weekend long.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 37 July 24, 2012, 04:18:46 PM
FBI warned about rampage
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071212/ap_on_re_us/church_shootings;_ylt=Av_d81eoRADHmDsBCDWh2Y.s0NUE
By GEORGE MERRITT and ERIC GORSKI, Associated Press Writers
2 hours, 55 minutes ago


DENVER - Federal authorities were alerted to anti-Christian postings apparently written by Matthew Murray only hours after he opened fire on a missionary center and just before his deadly rampage at a Colorado megachurch, the Web site's administrator said. Joe Istre, president of the Association of Former Pentecostals, which operates the site, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he and other forum participants had grown familiar with the frequent and disturbingly dark poetry and obsessions of one participant, whose nickname was nghtmrchld26. But when that same author — believed to be Murray — left at least 11 posts on the day of the twin shootings warning that he wanted to kill Christians, a forum participant immediately contacted the FBI, Istre said. "I'm coming for EVERYONE soon and I WILL be armed to the @#%$ teeth and I WILL shoot to kill," one threat posted by nghtmrchld26 said. Istre said he received a message from a board member who claimed to have contacted the FBI about a half-hour before the bloodshed at New Life Church in Colorado Springs. "My reaction was disbelief, but then almost horror," Istre said of Murray's violence. "This guy was posting on our forums, and we are a support group out to help people, to try to get them to calm their fears and get them into a productive life. And here we are conversing with a dude who was a killer."

Denver FBI spokeswoman Rene Vonder Haar said the agency began an investigation immediately after receiving a phone call at 10:30 a.m. Sunday, but she refused to discuss the nature of the call. Vonder Haar said the information was passed on to police in Arvada, where two members of Youth With A Mission had been killed earlier Sunday, and Colorado Springs. But Colorado Springs police Sgt. Scott Schwall said police there didn't learn the Murray family home's address in Englewood until after the church shootings. On Wednesday, two services were planned to remember the four victims killed Sunday. Members of Youth With A Mission and members of New Life Church were to gather to worship, pray and mourn. Arvada police spokeswoman Susan Medina said police cannot say with certainty who nghtmrchld26 is. Istre also said his forum agreed to turn over all relevant information, and provided the FBI the Internet Protocol address of nghtmrchld26 to help confirm the poster's identity.

The Denver Post reported Wednesday that Murray also was apparently posting to a different forum under the name DyingChild_65, and may have foretold of his rampage there, too. In one posting, he references the one of the Columbine killers and the gunman who opened fire at Virginia Tech. He also mentioned Ricky Rodriguez, who stabbed a prominent member of a church once known as the Children of God, then shot himself in the head in 2005. The group had been accused of sexually and physically abusing child members during the 1970s and 1980s. "Like Cho, Eric Harris, Ricky Rodriguez and others, I'm going out to make a stand for the weak and the defenseless this is for all those young people still caught in the Nightmare of Christianity for all those people who've been abused and mistreated and taken advantage of by this evil sick religion Christian America this is YOUR Columbine," the newspaper quoted the post as saying. The Gazette of Colorado Springs reported Murray also posted rants under the name "Chrstnghtmr."

Ultimately, Istre said he believes the ex-Pentecostal forum helped the man, and he doesn't know what more the group could have done to prevent the bloodshed. "My gut instinct is that he was coming on our forums and posting all this stuff to provoke a negative reaction to where he'd be rejected again, so he can have another trophy, to say, 'I've been rejected by another organization, so here is my chance to strike back at the world.' I think in our organization he discovered an acceptance he probably never ran into." Murray, 19, was dismissed from Youth With a Mission in 2002 for what the training center has described only as health reasons. Youth With a Mission maintains an office at New Life Church's World Prayer Center. An autopsy Tuesday determined that Murray killed himself with a bullet to the head after he was brought down by gunfire from a volunteer security guard at the church, authorities said. [wtf? he was brought down by an armed Citizen who saved lives because she was packing heat yet they still spin spin spin]


Matthew Murray had two handguns, an assault rifle and smoke bombs when he was shot trying to enter a church in a suburb of Denver.  Not only is that identical to what Holmes was carrying, minus a shotgun, but it is similar to the drill at the university.  It's a script.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Freelancer July 24, 2012, 08:36:08 PM
This story gets better by the minute

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/james-holmes-received-26k-grant-from-bethesda-based-national-institutes-of-health/

James Holmes Received $26K Grant From Bethesda-Based National Institutes of Health

WNEW News reports that Holmes was awarded a prestigious grant from the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md. NIH is part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

It gave the graduate student a $26,000 stipend and paid his tuition for the highly competitive neuroscience program at the University of Colorado in Denver. Holmes was one of six neuroscience students at the school to get the grant money.

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: scandilous July 25, 2012, 06:58:16 AM
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531250_10150919837626008_1155826140_n.jpg)

Comment cut/pasted from original post I found:

The card even mentions puppet... and 2 times 8 is 16, coincidence?
And the searchlight like in premieres... or Batman!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: scandilous July 25, 2012, 07:16:35 AM
Reality Check: Unanswered Questions About Colorado Theater Massacre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jeW_-Kq7vA&feature=player_embedded
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: JConner July 25, 2012, 07:41:05 AM
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/chilling-video-blood-tracks-back-into-theater-why-more-proof-we-have-a-conspiracy/18231/#more-18231

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator July 25, 2012, 09:05:22 AM
Reality Check: Unanswered Questions About Colorado Theater Massacre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jeW_-Kq7vA&feature=player_embedded

Couple of select comments for this vid. YT has the view counter clamped at 301 of course. Swann doesn’t mention the Cinemark gun ban though. IDK. Maybe he was allowed to say this because they knew it would have limited impact. Local vs national-level broadcast.

There is no way Ben Swann can be allowed on the telvision screen saying something like this without the controllers of our society approving it first! He is either a hero and better be ready to protect his life or he he has been put into the media to satisfy some by the New World Order.
ItsAboutWhatUDo 5 hours ago

421 likes....301 views!!! hmmmmm something not quite right with that...
lboersmao 6 hours ago

yep,
Ben himself told me that he can get away with actual reporting because his local channel is owned by a small company.
Dermal Deviations in reply to CorporateNothing (Show the comment) 6 hours ago

It's great that you're posing these tough questions and all, but why whip up a quick news segment asking all these questions rather than going through some investigative means to FIND these answers? Yes, all national media outlets have some form of political or socioeconomic bias when it comes to reporting the news, but it stands to reason that we might not be hearing these questions ASKED on by CNN/MSNBC/Fox News right now is that there ARE no answers as of yet.
CorporateNothing 7 hours ago

even some of my cops friends were telling me that things don't add up and a lot of the information the national media has been pushing sounds fishy like it has an agenda to it. In fact they were saying a good number of officers feel that way.
ScoobyDigites 8 hours ago
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: goforward July 25, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
Holmes had help: Aurora shooting witnesses indicate potential accomplices

http://www.examiner.com/article/holmes-had-help-aurora-shooting-witnesses-indicate-potential-accomplices

Date described the shooter as approximately 5’9”. Holmes stands 6’3”, a full half foot taller. While it is easy to misgauge height under such circumstances, it is a noticeable difference.

Another witness, seen in the video at left, stated a second canister was thrown from the opposite side of the theater indicating a potential accomplice as well.

Only two days prior to the shooting Holmes was casually having drinks and talking sports like a regular guy. Jackie Mitchell, a furniture mover who lives several blocks from the suspect's apartment building in Colorado, told Fox News he had drinks with Holmes at a local bar on Tuesday night, and stated he showed no sign of being distressed or violent. “We just talked about football. He had a backpack and geeky glasses and seemed like a real intelligent guy, and I figured he was one of the college students"

Holmes rented his apartment only a couple of weeks prior to the shooting, and the level of sophistication with regard to booby-trapping the apartment would have taken hours, even days. This information suggests Holmes was living at an alternate location.
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: HAZMAT July 25, 2012, 02:21:35 PM
This story gets better by the minute

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/james-holmes-received-26k-grant-from-bethesda-based-national-institutes-of-health/



Yes but thats not like he got 26k in cash... He would be lucky to pocket 3 thousand.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman July 25, 2012, 10:02:04 PM
oh snap!   ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/F8hv3.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: ScipioAfricanus July 25, 2012, 10:09:51 PM
oh snap!   ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/F8hv3.jpg)
that is serious and funny in the same vein.
: FBI now actively framing suspect in Denver shooting
: supermegaman July 25, 2012, 11:01:07 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25/exclusive-movie-massacre-suspect-laid-out-plans-in-package-mailed-to/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25/exclusive-movie-massacre-suspect-laid-out-plans-in-package-mailed-to/)

Police and FBI agents were called to the University of Colorado Anschutz medical campus in Aurora on Monday morning after the psychiatrist, who is also a professor at the school, reported receiving a package believed to be from the suspect. Although that package turned out to be from someone else and harmless, a search of the Campus Services' mailroom turned up another package sent to the psychiatrist with Holmes’ name in the return address, the source told FoxNews.com.

Inside the package was a notebook full of details about how he was going to kill people,” the source told FoxNews.com. “There were drawings of what he was going to do in it -- drawings and illustrations of the massacre."

Among the images shown in the spiral-bound notebook’s pages were gun-wielding stick figures blowing away other stick figures.

The University of Colorado Denver issued a statement Wednesday evening confirming that a suspicious package was found but calling the July 12 timeline "inaccurate." The university said it was delivered Monday and found on the same day. However, it wasn't clear if the statement was referring to the package from Holmes or the harmless package from someone else.



so if it was delivered Monday and arrived Monday, then who sent the package??  I bet those drawings were strikingly accurate, after the fact, eh FBI agent?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: ersatz protocol July 26, 2012, 12:51:03 PM
menace had mentioned in another thread,and
I'd also read about his father being a Dr. Robert Holmes last night..he apparently works at fico.
which is tied to the libor scandal.

I've been trying to look into it further to confirm the info and
can't find anything yet about him being slated to appear before Congress.
Anyone have any articles that can corroborate it?

I'd read about the link in this wanye madsen article: http://reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/23080
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: scandilous July 26, 2012, 02:29:52 PM
menace had mentioned in another thread,and
I'd also read about his father being a Dr. Robert Holmes last night..he apparently works at fico.
which is tied to the libor scandal.

I've been trying to look into it further to confirm the info and
can't find anything yet about him being slated to appear before Congress.
Anyone have any articles that can corroborate it?

I'd read about the link in this wanye madsen article: http://reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/23080


I just found this article on Max Keiser´s blog

James Holmes' father, Robert Holmes, is set to provide crippling info. on Libor & other banking scandals.


"Most important to note about James Holmes, however, this report says, is that his father, Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system. Robert Holmes, whose “blueblood” family links go back to the Mayflower, is known throughout the global banking community as being the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed and is credited with developing predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.

Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO, which was formally known as Fair, Isaac and Company, and which every American citizen is beholden to should they need to borrow money."

Mind you I am not saying that there is any sort of conspiracy involved here, however it has to make you stop and wonder, "what are the chances that two of America's most volatile issues -- gun control and the ongoing banking and mortgage crisis and scandal -- could be countenanced by a single family?"


http://mortgagemovies.blogspot.com/2012/07/kingcast-and-mortgage-movies-remain.html

      
   

Truly amazing if true!! what do you guys think?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 26, 2012, 02:30:35 PM
menace had mentioned in another thread,and
I'd also read about his father being a Dr. Robert Holmes last night..

see:
http://www.infowars.com/shooter-james-holmes-and-darpa-weird-science/
Shooter James Holmes and DARPA Weird Science - Kurt Nimmo
 Infowars.com  July 24, 2012
 
Appearing on the Alex Jones Show today, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen said accused shooter James Holmes had a number of links to U.S. government-funded research centers, including the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency, or DARPA.
...
In addition, James Holmes’ father, Dr. Robert Holmes, worked for San Diego-based HNC Software, Inc., a company that worked with DARPA to develop “cortronic neural networks” that enable machines to translate aural and visual stimuli and simulate human thinking.
 
The Holmes family appears to have deep connections to the military-industrial complex. Lt. Col. Robert Holmes, the grandfather of James Holmes, was a graduate Turkish language graduates of the Army Language School, later the Defense Language Institute, in Monterey, California (the same military installation, incidentally, where alleged 9/11 hijacker Saeed Alghamdi trained).

The elder Holmes, Madsen notes, more than likely worked in intelligence. “Typically, U.S. military officers conversant in Turkish served with either the Defense Intelligence Agency or the Central Intelligence Agency at either the U.S. embassy in Ankara or the Consulate General in Istanbul, or both,” he writes.
 
“Was James Holmes engaged in a real-life Jason Bourne TREADSTONE project that broke down and resulted in deadly consequences in Aurora, Colorado?” Madsen concludes. Operation Treadstone was a fictional top-secret CIA project under which the character Jason Bourne underwent behavioral modification.
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: JConner July 26, 2012, 03:04:36 PM
What is the 'death total'? 14? Or 12?

Also, who were the military personnel involved? (I mean the victims?)

Could this have been an attack on them? Could this have been an attack on someone in particular, and staged to look like a 'random act of mass murder'?

The thing was OBVIOUSLY staged, of that, there can be no doubt anymore. Question is... who staged it and what was the immediate goal?

SURELY the powers that be aren't so dumb as to think Americans would en masse by into the 'we need to disarm everybody' meme? I refuse to believe the bad guys are THAT retarded. They KNEW that, although something like this would spark calls for disarmament, that nevertheless at least half the country would REJECT such an idea as a logical solution. So maybe there is ANOTHER goal here? Remember, they like to use one op for multiple effects.

So the patsy's dad was going to testify on Libor-gate. Guess he'll be watching what he says, now won't he?

By the way... what's up with Colorado? Lots of weirdness going on up there...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: scandilous July 26, 2012, 05:01:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZaBmSq89S4&feature=player_embedded#!

AURORA — The following is a timeline of actual events that took place just after the mass shooting was reported to 911 in a Colorado theatre during a midnight showing of the new Batman film:

4 MIN. 30 SEC… SUSPECT CAUGHT
6 MIN 46 SEC… “One of the shooters is wearing white and blue clothing”
8 MIN 6 SEC… WITNESSES REPORT MULTIPLE SUSPECTS
16 MIN 8 SEC… MALE SUSPECT SEEN WITH RED BACK PACK AND ANOTHER ALL IN BLACK FLEEING THE SCENE
16 MIN. 47 SEC… Cops describe one of the suspects as male, dressed in black camo, vest, gas mask, and possessing multiple long guns.
17 MIN 48 SEC… JAMES HOLMES WAS NAMED…. BUT SECONDS BEFORE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT A SECOND SUSPECT ON LOOSE…. GOT AWAY

Well done to the men and women that responded to this chaos, but how many shooters were there?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 26, 2012, 07:10:29 PM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html
Just after the shooting occurred, a bulletin was issued to other police agencies throughout the metro area warning them of the possibility of similar incidences in theaters in their cities.

I wonder if there weren't any number of 'drills' concerning attacks on movie theaters being conducted around the Denver metro area.  Maybe the one in Aurora went live.  Maybe that's the reason the cops started communicating via cell phone instead of radio as the event unfolded.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 26, 2012, 07:33:32 PM

Another attempt to demonize the suspect--telling us he was spitting at guards--has fallen apart:

http://www.businessinsider.com/james-holmes-false-spitting-reports-2012-7
“[C]ontrary to what some media organizations have reported, our sources say in the past 48-hours Holmes has been calm and docile in jail, just like he was in court. There have been no outbursts at all as he is in isolation.”


The suspect cannot remember the shooting.  This is another classic symptom of the mind-controlled patsy:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9430752/Colorado-shooting-James-Holmes-claims-he-cant-remember-killings.html
 The 24-year-old repeatedly asked prison guards "Why am I here?" and said he had no recollection of the killings during a midnight premiere of the new Batman film, according to the New York Daily News.



: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Brocke July 26, 2012, 07:44:29 PM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289126/detail.html
Just after the shooting occurred, a bulletin was issued to other police agencies throughout the metro area warning them of the possibility of similar incidences in theaters in their cities.

I wonder if there weren't any number of 'drills' concerning attacks on movie theaters being conducted around the Denver metro area.  Maybe the one in Aurora went live.  Maybe that's the reason the cops started communicating via cell phone instead of radio as the event unfolded.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234386.msg1367100#msg1367100
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 26, 2012, 10:30:22 PM
From a witness:

http://sinisterdreams.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/a-post-from-facebook-the-dark-knight-rises-or-at-least-thats-what-im-told-i-was-interrupted-by-a-douchebag-with-guns/
".... there was a nice manager-looking guy standing there(in front of the Fandango machine ticket dispenser) for people just like me. He had on a tan suit, and looked very much like some sort of secret service agent with his little radio receiver in his ear.  ...
I remember seeing the manager in the tan suit walk in from the left side.... . He was looking around and he spoke something into the radio in his ear. .... As soon as the first green preview screen popped up, Mr. Tan Manager turned around and disappeared behind the slanted wall.

Hmmm....


"While we were running, it registered to me that there were explosions happening all around me."

This is after the two gas grenades were thrown.  If true, the attackers were throwing more explosive devices.  Have there been reports of people wounded by shrapnel?
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: bazwalt July 26, 2012, 11:10:51 PM
New article making headlines in Australia.

'Why am I here?' Batman 'killer' James Holmes asks

THE accused Batman killer James Holmes has been claiming he does not remember the shooting and that he has amnesia.

New York's Daily News is reporting that Mr Holmes, 24, who allegedly killed 12 people and injured 58 at a screening of ''The Dark Knight Rises'' in Colorado, does not remember the incident.

''He claims he doesn't know why he's in jail,'' a jail staffer told the newspaper. ''He asked, 'why am I here?'''

''He needs to save his act for the jury because no one here is buying it,'' the worker said. ''Everyone is convinced he is faking it.''

Mr Holmes is also said to be complaining about the food he is receiving at the Arapahoe County Detention Centre.

''He's claiming his belly hurts him,'' the jail employee told the Daily News. ''He complained once that he didn't like the food ... the guy killed 12 people and he's upset that he's not getting a four-star meal?''

The paper reported that a typical breakfast would include sausages, while lunch is usually a sandwich. Mr Holmes is said to be barely eating at all.

He is on 23-hour lockdown, only leaving his cell for one hour a day to get exercise.

Meanwhile, US President Barack Obama has made it clear he will not push for new gun laws in the wake of the Colorado massacre.

Even as the issue of guns shifts to the forefront of the US presidential campaign after the Aurora movie massacre, the White House has made it clear that new gun legislation will not be on the political agenda this year.

Instead, US President Barack Obama intends to focus on other ways to combat gun violence - a position not unlike that of his Republican rival Mitt Romney.

Days after the mass shootings in Aurora, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Mr Obama still supports a ban on the sale of assault weapons, a restriction that expired in 2004. But he said: "There are things we can do short of legislation and short of gun laws that can reduce violence in our society."

Mr Carney's comments came the day after Mr Obama, in a speech to an African-American group in New Orleans, embraced some degree of additional restrictions on guns.

With AP
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: bazwalt July 26, 2012, 11:12:24 PM
New article making headlines in Australia.

'Why am I here?' Batman 'killer' James Holmes asks

THE accused Batman killer James Holmes has been claiming he does not remember the shooting and that he has amnesia.

New York's Daily News is reporting that Mr Holmes, 24, who allegedly killed 12 people and injured 58 at a screening of ''The Dark Knight Rises'' in Colorado, does not remember the incident.

''He claims he doesn't know why he's in jail,'' a jail staffer told the newspaper. ''He asked, 'why am I here?'''

''He needs to save his act for the jury because no one here is buying it,'' the worker said. ''Everyone is convinced he is faking it.''

Mr Holmes is also said to be complaining about the food he is receiving at the Arapahoe County Detention Centre.

''He's claiming his belly hurts him,'' the jail employee told the Daily News. ''He complained once that he didn't like the food ... the guy killed 12 people and he's upset that he's not getting a four-star meal?''

The paper reported that a typical breakfast would include sausages, while lunch is usually a sandwich. Mr Holmes is said to be barely eating at all.

He is on 23-hour lockdown, only leaving his cell for one hour a day to get exercise.

Meanwhile, US President Barack Obama has made it clear he will not push for new gun laws in the wake of the Colorado massacre.

Even as the issue of guns shifts to the forefront of the US presidential campaign after the Aurora movie massacre, the White House has made it clear that new gun legislation will not be on the political agenda this year.

Instead, US President Barack Obama intends to focus on other ways to combat gun violence - a position not unlike that of his Republican rival Mitt Romney.

Days after the mass shootings in Aurora, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Mr Obama still supports a ban on the sale of assault weapons, a restriction that expired in 2004. But he said: "There are things we can do short of legislation and short of gun laws that can reduce violence in our society."

Mr Carney's comments came the day after Mr Obama, in a speech to an African-American group in New Orleans, embraced some degree of additional restrictions on guns.

With AP

Seems very odd that he can't remember what happened...I'd like to see a toxicology report (if any were done at all)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue July 27, 2012, 12:54:47 AM
Seems very odd that he can't remember what happened...I'd like to see a toxicology report (if any were done at all)

I've been looking for some report of a drug test being performed on him to no avail...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/james-holmes-goofy-behavior-sign-psychosis-faking-expert/story?id=16844456#.UBIb7bR5F8E
James Holmes Spitting At Correction Officers, Forcing Use of Spit Guard
(wasn't the spitting report not true? )
...
Some observers wondered if Holmes was on drugs or being medicated.

Sources told ABC News he was not on drugs, leading to expert theories that he may have been in the grips of "psychotic episode," exhausted from stress or simply faking it.


So Sources say? Can anyone be a source? Wouldn't it be  "best practices" to have taken a blood sample when this guy was booked?

Now they find a notebook.... via the cia monitor....


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0726/Colorado-shooting-Was-James-Holmes-s-notebook-a-cry-for-validation-video
...
James Holmes allegedly mailed a package to a psychiatrist that foretold a murderous rampage at a theater showing 'The Dark Knight Rises.' Was it a call for recognition from somebody whose family worried about his isolation?
...

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/07/24/how-james-holmes-will-be-evaluated-by-psychiatrists/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fhealth+(Internal+-+Health+-+Text)
How James Holmes will be evaluated by psychiatrists
By Dr. Keith Ablow
Published July 24, 2012

James Holmes, the suspect responsible for the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, has begun a legal journey that will include an extensive psychiatric evaluation and may include a plea that he is not criminally responsible for his acts--an "insanity" plea.  As a forensic psychiatrist, I have participated in many such evaluations and then rendered expert testimony about killers in court.
 
Here's how they work:
 
First, given the extraordinary change in Holmes' mental status--from brilliant neuroscience Ph.D candidate to a mass killer--all organic (i.e. physical) causes for psychiatric symptoms must be excluded via an extensive medical work-up, including an MRI (to rule out a brain tumor or slow bleed), an EEG (to rule out seizures), a lumbar puncture (to obtain cerebrospinal fluid to rule out a central nervous system infection) and blood work (to rule out toxicity from heavy metals, other physiological abnormalities and any use by Holmes of illicit drugs).  Any medication with which Holmes has recently been treated will be considered for its possible psychiatric side effects.
...
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: Irobot July 27, 2012, 03:49:04 AM
Reality Check: Unanswered Questions About Colorado Theater Massacre: http://ning.it/MoWgQs

Aurora Police Chief Was Giuliani's Head of NYPD Intelligence: http://ning.it/Mp0ck9

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 37 July 27, 2012, 07:44:59 AM
There's a report that Holmes ate 100 milligrams of Vicoden before the shooting...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: scandilous July 27, 2012, 10:45:21 AM
interesting videos



Obama's neck wound story is a cover-up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpbPy7TKe7E


Second Gas Mask Found At Far Corner: It's worse than I suspected

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3CLfVe8Xg
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: bento July 27, 2012, 11:01:03 AM
Was talking to some people, they say the perp was already well off so he could buy all that gear. He was acting erratic recently, and was failing at his post graduate studies. Not that they could substantiate any of this, but it's what the trendies think.

They would not acknowledge any other evidence that there was more involved, just like the official narration. I just asked how could he carry all that gear and be that good and they just said he didn't have to move that far..
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Irobot July 27, 2012, 03:01:01 PM
Reality Check: Unanswered Questions About Colorado Theater Massacre: http://ning.it/MoWgQs

Aurora Police Chief Was Giuliani's Head of NYPD Intelligence: http://ning.it/Mp0ck9




.

James Eagen Holmes Shown In Science Camp Video When He Was 18, Discussing 'Temporal Illusions. http://t.co/BgzlnWnP

.
Olympics False Flag Ready? 1,200 More Troops, Enough to Continue Games in “Just About Any Scenario”
Posted by Melissa Melton
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/olympics-false-flag-ready-1-200-more-troops-enough-to-continue


DHS-funded video :"Run, Hide, Fight," the video depicts a fictional shooting incident at an office building
http://12160.info/group/eye-on-rnc-2012-republican-national-convention-tam/forum/topics/run-hide-fight-the-video-depicts-a-fictional-shooting-incident-at


: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 27, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Like almost all the young random-rage shooters, Holmes was being mentally 'treated' at the time of the shooting.  Almost certainly, this means he was taking SSRI-type drugs.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnes/ci_21174600/aurora-theater-shooting-suspect-was-being-treated-by
James Holmes.... was being treated by a psychiatrist--Dr. Lynne Fenton--at the university where he was enrolled ...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Catalina July 27, 2012, 05:28:19 PM
James Holmes Wrote And Made Mind Control Programs

James Holmes Wrote And Made Mind Control Programs. After graduating in 2006, Holmes worked as a student intern at the Salk Institute of Biological Studies and Miramar College’s biotechnology summer boot camp, where “cream of the crop” students were given rudimentary laboratory projects.

For his part while at Salk, Holmes wrote in his resume that he designed a computer program to illustrate temporary perceptions of causality and programmed a flicker fusion utility. James Holmes Flicker Fusion Utility. Used in movies and game systems by every day people. Flicker fusion is used in mind control.

More Information on what James Holmes Worked On In 1991 a professor emeritus of history at California State University named Theodore Roszak published a novel entitled Flicker. Described as ‘A novel of suspense involving tangled conspiracies and dark obsessions in the mysterious film industry from the author of the highly acclaimed The Making of a Counterculture’ Flicker, a complex mystery set in Los Angeles in the 1970’s, centers around a film student Jonathan Gates and his obsession with a B horror film director Max Castle. This obsession eventually leads Jonathan to discover Castle’s use of subliminal messages, mind control, mood altering imagery secretly embedded into movies with the intent of terrifying the audience.

James Holmes also wrote papers on temporary perceptions of causality Temporary Perceptions Of Causality. Seems James Holmes was into mind control and even wrote a program for mind control.

The main stream news asked questions like did Mr Holmes ever have a girlfriend. We want to know what he studied and what he wrote. Plus programs Holmes made regarding mind control. Their we will find what has caused this terrible action and who is behind it. It’s very odd that a man who had no problems with law or anyone decided to call himself the Joker and die his hair red and murder people at a movie theater. James Holmes might be the victim of a study gone wrong or purposely made.

It’s startling to see psychiatrists explaining the James Holmes lived in a fantasy and was just plain crazy which can easily be explained by the work James Holmes did in flicker fusion.

The true story of how the discovery of flicker potentials, and scientific observations about strange patterns, organized hallucinations, and even the displacement of time derived from stroboscopic light, very nearly resulted in a Dream Machine in every suburban living room. William S. Burroughs said: “Flicker administered under large dosage and repeated later could well lead to overflow of brain areas … Anything that can be done chemically can be done in other ways.” Aldous Huxley called it “an aid to visionary experience.” Seems James Holmes was indeed part of a mind control system gone wrong or done on purpose. The United Nations treaty to ban weapons in the united States is due for a vote next week. Which would change the US second amendment for ever. Was James Holmes used to bring ridicule to people who owns guns and help pass the treaty to ban weapons in the USA. We now know fast and furious was used to blame the second amendment and to clamp down on gun laws in the united states.

One news reporter said the music James Holmes played the night of the murders was a trance music.

http://whyamericansaredumb.com/james-holmes-wrote-and-made-mind-control-programs/
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Catalina July 27, 2012, 05:30:31 PM
This article makes an interesting connection between the patsy’s father Robert and the LIBOR scandal. It seems the father was due to testify about it to a Senate panel next week.

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news616_batmanwhy.html



    1. WHY? BANK FRAUD THREAT

    The Kremlin released a Ministry of Finance report on the largest bank fraud in human history and warned that the shocking movie massacre in Colorado was part of a deliberate plan by banking elites to collapse the global economy.

    The world's super-rich have siphoned off and hidden at least $21 trillion – a sum bigger than the entire American economy!

    According to the report, the shooting suspect's father, Robert Holmes, was scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is now unfolding. This banking fraud threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.

   

        2. WHY? SILENCING HOLMES' FATHER

        Robert Holmes is known throughout the global banking community as the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed. He developed predictive models for financial credit and fraud risks and internet/online banking fraud models.

        Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO. Every American citizen is beholden to FICO if they need to borrow money.

        The massive banking fraud crime that the US Senate is investigating is called the LIBOR Scandal . It involves UK banks who illegally fixed borrowing rates with the compliance of the Bank of England, the US Federal Reserve (which knew about this crime for 4 years and didn’t report it) and other major Western banks.

        Robert Holmes, the shooting suspect's father, not only uncovered the true intent of this massive fraud, but has also traced the "hidden" trillions of dollars to the exact bank accounts of the elite classes who have stolen it. In other words, Robert Holmes could NAME NAMES! Those names WOULD AWAKEN THE WORLD to the depth of government and corporate corruption which could include members of Congress, Wall Street, Federal Reserve and EU executives and could even include US Presidential candidates and the British Royal family.

        What kind of a "shut up" deal has been worked out with Robert Holmes to save his son from the death penalty?

        3. WHY? GUN CONTROL/POLICE STATE

        The "timely" Batman movie massacre occurred just in time for a vote on the UN Global Small Arms Treaty. The vote could result in gun confiscation across America! The UN treaty could override national sovereignty and give a license to federal governments to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers.

        The biggest public danger is not public ownership of small weapons. It's a government with a "monopoly of force" over the global population. The UN spells it out in this document which reveals a table entitled "Governance solutions for reasserting the state monopoly on the use of force". It lists the options available to governments to re-establish "monopolies of force" against their own people.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Catalina July 27, 2012, 06:07:44 PM
James Holmes Father Works For DARPA and LIBOR

In the movie the Dark Knight Rises there is a threat and warning that is given to Bruce Wayne by Selena Kyle. As she is dancing with him at a party she purrs in his ear, “There’s a storm coming Mr. Wayne. You and your friends better batten down the hatches. ‘Cause when it hits, you’re all goanna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large, and leave so little for the rest of us.”
 
 
As the film continues we begin to see that the rich are losing their grip on Gotham and the people learn that their government has betrayed them. That they had propped up a hero in Harvey Dent (a lawyer and politician) and jailed many people in his name fighting for his cause. The leader who rises up against the bankers and the elite is Bane.
 
The masked figure leads a rag tag group of men into Wall Street. Bane leads an organized system of violence against the wealthy, evoking a similar theme once seen in reality by Occupy Wall Street. Bane’s henchmen literally attack Wall Street, savagely beat the rich, and promise the good people of Gotham that ‘tomorrow, you claim what is rightfully yours. The movie is a damning indictment of the anti-corporate movement and the threat of social chaos it poses.
 
Bane’s plot involves a massive transfer of wealth using the stock exchange. It consists further of inciting civil unrest and taking control of cutting-edge technologies that use an algorithm precisely tracked to Bruce Wayne. They use the software to gut the fortunes of the rich.
 
Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight Rises is a very dark and foreboding predictive programming of what could happen if there was such statistical data available to undermine the 1 percent and send them into the streets where the rebellious are already there to eat them.
 
There would be massive unrest and as seen in the film a war between the people and the police. There are many critics who are claiming that Christopher Nolan’s epic is the sounding of the warning bell and that there awaits an organized puppet master anarchy that will topple the government by exposing and gutting the fortunes of the elite. The only thing is that in real life it is done on streets and there is no sound track of evil drums pounding out the battle between the haves and the have nots.
The Dark Knight Rises seems to acknowledge systemic inequality and injustice, even if it portrays a demagogue hijacking legitimate grievances. It also shows that even when someone like Bane hands over the reins of power to the people – the people really do not know what to do with that power and so anarchy becomes the “bane” of Gotham’s existence.
 
As I was watching the Dark Knight Rises I never really applied any political substance to it. I only saw it as a bit of predictive programming and a believable scenario as to how it all begins.
 
It begins in a software company where a programmers design statistical software that can track and monitor the spending of some of the richest people in the world. The software is being used by an unnamed agency that has been paid to expose the corruption of a beloved politician that everyone can agree is a savior or messianic figure.
 
The threat goes out that there will be an exposing of fraudulent practices, which include identity theft, credit card fraud, securities fraud and a number of other practices that the elite do in order to bilk the poor for their money. There is also a sub plot where the software company is about to take their findings to the Supreme Court and expose all of the so called political heroes. This would create riots in various cities. It may even cause marauding shooters to show up in places where they can create mass casualties.
 
Let’s suppose intelligence is aware of the threat and issues a declassified memo from the department of homeland security warning law enforcement that there is a danger of terrorists killing people in movie theaters.
 
All that is needed it’s the catalyzing event and immediately the police state is activated and we begin to see flash riots take place in cities and civil unrest brewing under the radar.
 
The truth maybe stranger than fiction, as we look at the stories that surround the main story of a so called brainwashed lone nut James Holmes who opens fire at a movie theater in Aurora Colorado and his connections to both neuroscience and ‘Super soldier’ or ‘Peak Soldier performance’ experiments and a father that works for a software company that analyses fraud for business.
 
According to his LinkedIn profile, James Holmes’s father, Dr. Robert Holmes, who received a PhD in Statistics in 1981 from the University of California at Berkeley, worked for San Diego-based HNC Software, Inc. from 2000 to 2002. HNC, known as a “neural network” company, and DARPA, beginning in 1998, have worked on developing “cortronic neural networks,” which would allow machines to interpret aural and visual stimuli to think like humans.
 
The cortronic concept was developed by HNC Software’s chief scientist and co-founder, Robert Hecht-Nielsen. HNC merged with the Minneapolis-based Fair Isaac Corporation (FICO), a computer analysis and decision-making company. Robert Holmes continues to work at FICO.
 
Robert Holmes brief bio at linked in states the following: “My educational background is in Mathematics and Statistics. My experience over the last 10 years at HNC and FICO has been in developing predictive models for financial services; credit & fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.”
 
Management Experience: I am currently managing a team building Falcon Fraud Manager Credit card fraud models. I have also managed teams in the Telco and Identity Theft fraud areas.”
 
How interesting and coincidental is it that in the film The Dark Knight Rises Bane gets his hands on Software that is used to expose the fraud in Wall Street and literally guts the rich?
 
Robert Holmes is said to have developed computer algorithms that demonstrate predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.
 
It is just too coincidental to not be eerily synchronistic. This software has been said to be able trace the Trillions of Dollars that have just vaporized into thin air. All of the spending in theory could be traced to the exact bank accounts of the elite thugs who have stolen it.
Now these Software insiders who may have information to nail corrupt officials have always wound up being fingered by intelligence agencies and many have died mysteriously.
 
Several years ago a system of software was developed called PROMIS, by a company called INSLAW. This was criminal tracking software that was used by the Defense Dept. and other agencies after they stole it from the maker and forced him into Bankruptcy and Jail, where he remains today.
 
Danny Cassalero was murdered investigating this case shortly after he came up with an “Octopus” conspiracy theory of how things operated in the highest circles. This software has been slightly modified by the CIA and secretly “slipped” into banking software that was exported out of our country for use by foreign and offshore banks.
 
The software was modified to track banking transactions instead and the information about the flow of finances throughout the world was now being monitored by the CIA or at least a few agents who wanted to find out where the money was going.
 
After this rogue CIA group got a hold of the information they then photocopied it and had it hand delivered to each particular congressman, senator or politician along with a note explaining to them that they no longer had their bribe fund and they had 24 hours to turn in their resignation or face public scandal, humiliation and possible criminal charges if they refused.
 
Just prior to the shooting in Aurora Colorado, where James Holmes the son of Robert Holmes the software developer allegedly killed 12 and injured over 50 others a scandalous report was issued in the United kingdom about the LIBOR scandal where it has been discovered that much of the wealth held by the so called 99 percent is being held in offshore accounts far away from the taxman and that there is software that is now being used to track and expose those who are abusing the system.
Makes you wonder if this is part of the PROMIS/INSLAW software or a modified version that is far more accurate and that the future is the exposure of criminal activity that would send the world into global civil unrest. Could it be that Robert Holmes was involved with the creation of such software models and that his son was programmed to kill in order to create a distraction from the fraud scandal that would rock the world?
 
According to Salon.com Mitt Romney arrived in London July 24th, 2012. He will be attending the the Olympic Games and hold fundraisers, including two with bankers and lobbyists involved in the expanding Libor rate-fixing scandal. London-based bank Barclays paid a $450 million fine earlier this month for manipulating the Libor, a rate that determines trillions of dollars of loans around the globe.
 
The company’s ex-CEO resigned both his post at the company and his hosting duties of a Romney fundraiser, but Barclays lobbyist Patrick Durkin remains a co-chair of the Romney fundraisers, and there are others with ties to the scandal as well. Some involved in the scandal could face jail time in the future.
 
Once again the chilling Predictive programming does not escape those who are watching the movie “The Dark Knight Rises.” Bane the leader of the fictional anarchist mob decides to plant bombs in the Gotham Underground. The final target is a stadium where the Mayor of Gotham attends a sports event. A young boy sings the national anthem that eerily sounds as if it is sung with a British accent. Bane pauses to listen to the distinct voice. He then says “Let the Games begin.” The stadium is then bombed and the mayor is killed as his reserved viewing box is bombed.
 
Read more here: http://getreadyportland.com/app/the-storm-is-coming/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-storm-is-coming
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: Irobot July 27, 2012, 06:45:20 PM

 The suspected Batman movie premiere gunman was
seeing a university psychiatrist specializing in schizophrenia
before the shooting that killed 12
http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:Topic:932254?xg_source=activity
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: ersatz protocol July 27, 2012, 07:12:54 PM
lynne fenton md... listed as an instructor..Research Interest:  "Reward Systems in Schizophrenia
Neurobiology of Psychotherapy"

http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/colleges/medicalschool/departments/psychiatry/Research/Schizophrenia/Pages/SchizophreniaResearchFaculty.aspx

reward systems in schizophrenia:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2913410/

http://schizophreniabulletin.oxfordjournals.org/content/34/5/835.full
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 2Revolutions July 27, 2012, 10:40:42 PM
Colorado Batman shooting: judge prevents release of James Holmes school records

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9431817/Colorado-Batman-shooting-judge-prevents-release-of-James-Holmes-school-records.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9431817/Colorado-Batman-shooting-judge-prevents-release-of-James-Holmes-school-records.html)

Much speculation surrounding the 24-year-old's possible motive in gunning down 12 people and wounding 58 more at a screening of Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises," has focused on his time studying neuroscience at the school.

School documents are usually available under the Colorado Open Records Act, but District Court Judge William Silvester cited a provision that bars the public from viewing open records "prohibited by ... the order of any court.
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: John_Back_From_The_Club_O July 27, 2012, 11:22:45 PM
Colorado Batman shooting: judge prevents release of James Holmes school records

A judge has issued a rare order preventing the University of Colorado Denver from releasing records about James Holmes, the suspected Batman cinema shooter.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9431817/Colorado-Batman-shooting-judge-prevents-release-of-James-Holmes-school-records.html

Much speculation surrounding the 24-year-old's possible motive in gunning down 12 people and wounding 58 more at a screening of Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises," has focused on his time studying neuroscience at the school.
School documents are usually available under the Colorado Open Records Act, but District Court Judge William Silvester cited a provision that bars the public from viewing open records "prohibited by ... the order of any court."
His order was signed on Monday but released Thursday.

University officials said Holmes was in the process of withdrawing from the graduate program, but had not completed the necessary paperwork.

At the request of Holmes's attorneys, Silvester also reinforced an earlier order barring officials of the district attorney's office and law enforcement officials from releasing information about the case before the trial.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Well I guess the public can't investigate Holmes relationship with DARPA mind control programs.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan July 28, 2012, 02:04:45 AM
Some added details:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57477456/face-the-nation-transcripts-july-22-2012-aurora-mayor-and-police-chief-mayor-bloomberg-pm-netanyahu/?pageNum=9&tag=contentMain;contentBody
--...he wandered out of the theater and almost waited for police who, as we learned, almost mistook him for a S.W.A.T. member, except for the fact, you know, I'll say this according to the sources because I learned it a different way, he was wearing the wrong kind of gas mask.

If Homes was apprehended with a gas mask on, then there is no way the gas mask found in the road 200ft away belonged to the suspect.  Two gas masks--two suspects.




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: Valerius July 28, 2012, 11:35:31 AM
Allegedly prior disciple of the psychiatrist:

Defense: Shooting Suspect Was Seeing Psychiatrist

By COLLEEN SLEVIN and NICHOLAS RICCARD


"Fenton was disciplined by the Colorado Medical Board in 2004 for prescribing herself Xanax while her mother was dying, state records show. She also was disciplined for prescribing the sleep aid Ambien and the allergy medicine Claritin for her husband, and painkillers for an employee who suffered from chronic headaches."

 Copyright © 2012 ABC News Internet Ventures. Yahoo! -

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/defense-shooting-suspect-psychiatrist-16876098
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: larsonstdoc July 30, 2012, 01:18:19 AM
Front page at rense.com
Source unknown


(http://rense.com/1.imagesH/aurorasplsh.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Letsbereal July 30, 2012, 03:59:19 AM
Front page at rense.com
Source unknown


(http://rense.com/1.imagesH/aurorasplsh.jpg)

Possible Source:

Breaking: Colorado Massacre Linked To Historic Bank Fraud? YES! and this also follows the Batman Rising (Phoenix) plot perfectly!
26 July 2012
, by Jack Blood (Dead Line Live)
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234391.msg1367992#msg1367992

THE STORM IS COMING
26 July 2012
, (Ground Zero Media)
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234391.msg1367993#msg1367993
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: scandilous July 30, 2012, 05:23:46 AM
Front page at rense.com
Source unknown


(http://rense.com/1.imagesH/aurorasplsh.jpg)


the story that he was supposed to testify at the senate for LIBOR was written by known disinfo artist Sorcha Faal

therefore should not be trusted
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Letsbereal July 30, 2012, 07:11:29 AM

the story that he was supposed to testify at the senate for LIBOR was written by known disinfo artist Sorcha Faal

therefore should not be trusted

OK, if so can you provide me with a Sorcha Faal link?

Cause just saying so somehow doesn't make it real for me. This is the org source as far as I can track back:

THE STORM IS COMING
26 July 2012
, (Ground Zero Media)
http://www.groundzeromedia.org/the-storm-is-coming/
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Letsbereal July 30, 2012, 07:42:26 AM
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531250_10150919837626008_1155826140_n.jpg)

Comment cut/pasted from original post I found:

The card even mentions puppet... and 2 times 8 is 16, coincidence?
And the searchlight like in premieres... or Batman!

Over the Edge - Al Amarja http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over_the_Edge_%28game%29

Over the Edge is a surreal role-playing game of secrets and conspiracies, taking place on the mysterious Island of Al Amarja. It was created by Jonathan Tweet with Robin Laws, and published by Atlas Games. Over The Edge departed from the model of predefined character attributes and skills, in favour of player-chosen traits; and was among the first to be based on the dice pool, where the number of dice rolled, rather than how they are interpreted, is determined by the characters' abilities.

Al Amarja is an independent state. It is not member of United Nations or any other international body. It does not maintain embassies anywhere in the world.

Mmmmm .... sounds like the NWO themselves.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: starvosan August 01, 2012, 02:45:55 AM
According to some early reports floating around the net, Denver media source KUSA identified the shooter as an Iranian immigrant named Mohammad Alam.  The original video can possibly be seen here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=093_1342793563


http://www.varight.com/news/unconfirmed-reports-colorado-movie-shooter-idd-as-iranian-born-mohammad-alam/

"Apparently, Channel 9 news in Colorado initially reported the name and nationality of the shooter who was arrested for the horrific Colorado shooting as Iranian born Mohammad Alam. The following entry was reportedly copied and pasted from the News 9 website earlier this morning.

"AURORA – There is one suspect in custody after 14 people were shot and killed at the Century 16 Movie Theaters at the Aurora Town Center.
There were at least 50 people injured to Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates.
Oates says 10 died at the theater and four died at the area hospital.
Nicole Williams, with Swedish Medical Center, says the hospital was alerted to a mass casualty incident at 1:15 a.m. Friday.
Williams says the hospital was told to prepare for at least 20 patients.
According to witnesses, the shooter kicked in the emergency exit door in theater 9, threw some sort of disorienting smoke bombs and started shooting.
The captured shooter has been identified as Mohammad Alam, an Iranian immigrant. The identity of the other shooter is still unknown, Oates states.
(KUSA-TV © 2012 Multimedia Holdings Corporation)

"UPDATE: I contacted 9 News in Colorado to determine if they initially reported the gunman was an Iranian and received the following response:
Tom,
Thank you for writing 9NEWS about this youtube video. We did not report an Iranian immigrant had been arrested, or was even a suspect. This video has been edited and is not accurate.
Best,
Misty Montano
9NEWS Digital Content Manager

"Apparently, the name and nationality of the shooter has been removed from news reports with no indication as to the reason. Was News 9 erroneously reporting the identity of the individual or was the identity removed because the authorities are attempting to track down possible friends and associates of the alleged shooter and attempting to keep the identity hidden.
Or, for the conspiracy theorist readers, is the government trying to hide a connection to radical Islam?
The truth will eventually come out, but if the shooter is the Iranian identified initially by News 9, reporting that he is a 24 year old white male is at best misleading."


Though a commenter over at FreeRepublic may have confirmed the original story:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2908624/posts?page=132
Comment #14 "The morning news stated he was a “legal immigrant”."

---------------------

The general consensus seems to be that the story was a hoax.  Or did the Channel9 news accurately report Chief 0ates' comments, only to have the story hastily pulled because they realized they weren't following the approved script?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: scandilous August 01, 2012, 07:19:11 AM
OK, if so can you provide me with a Sorcha Faal link?

Cause just saying so somehow doesn't make it real for me. This is the org source as far as I can track back:

THE STORM IS COMING
26 July 2012
, (Ground Zero Media)
http://www.groundzeromedia.org/the-storm-is-coming/


here you go brah :)

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1600.htm
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue August 03, 2012, 07:01:44 PM
Off of drudge but it is interesting in that shouldn't Americans do the same? Or is this the way to get use to having armed Soldiers everywhere in domestic America?..

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/bikini-clad-gun-toting-israeli-woman-internet-sensation-article-1.1113980
Bikini-clad, gun-toting Israeli woman becomes an Internet sensation
 
A photo of a gun-wielding, bikini-clad woman standing on a crowded Tel Aviv beach has become an Internet sensation, with thousands of viewers curious about whether the brunette beauty is part of Israel's military and why she wasn't in uniform with her weapon in tow.
Comments (94)
By Victoria Cavaliere / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Friday, July 13, 2012
...

Israel's Haaretz newspaper, which picked up on the viral photo, wrote that "To an Israeli, the photo makes perfectly practical sense. When soldiers take their weapon off military premises, they must guard it closely and keep it on their person, at all times. Having one's weapon stolen is harshly punished with time in military prison a given. "
 
Haaretz also concludes that Israelis are "used to seeing guns in all kinds of places - propped up next to the guy sitting next to us in a coffeeshop, or in a university classroom, and of course, slung over the shoulders of women soldiers." That apparently also includes the shoulder of a woman ready for an afternoon at the beach.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/bikini-clad-gun-toting-israeli-woman-internet-sensation-article-1.1113980#ixzz22Wj9VFRs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/29/latin-america-us-allied-forces-reaction
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/6/29/1340984093218/Soldiers-patrol-the-stree-008.jpg)

Soldiers patroling the streets of John Fitzgerald Kennedy Square in Tegucigalpa Honduras, on 27 June 2012.
Since the coup that brought to power President Profirio Lobo, Honduras has had the world's highest murder rate at 82 per 100,000 residents.
Photograph: Orlando Sierra/AFP/Getty Images
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue August 04, 2012, 02:49:55 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/psychiatrist-called-threat-team-aurora-shooting-suspect-james-215740780--abc-news-topstories.html
...
ABC News has learned that Dr. Lynne Fenton, the psychiatrist who was treating Holmes, 24, at the school, was also a key member of the university's threat assessment team. The group of experts were responsible for protecting the school from potentially violent students.
...
Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.
...
A CU spokeswoman declined comment to KMGH on Fenton or any threat-team team actions, citing a gag order.


"
Aurora, Colo., shooting suspect James Holmes came to the attention of the threat assessment committee at the University of Colorado but no further action was taken because he left the school more than a month before the attack that killed 12 and injured 58, sources told ABC News.
"
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman August 06, 2012, 10:13:25 PM
(http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/487953_10151951838655024_1851146367_n-e1343857206303.jpg)

things that make you go, "hhmmmm."
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman August 06, 2012, 10:47:47 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/1g50tk.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: kidA August 06, 2012, 11:17:38 PM
Uhhh... He's smiling in the older photo. When you smile your lips widen, your nostrils flares out and your eyes can squint. In the newer one, it looks as if he is raising his brows as well.

I can see how they look like different people but then I have to think about the two totally different smiles. I think the orange hair does is it too.

Although, in this day and age, why can't we see another photo that is better quality than the one with the girl in the back and this smily one? He HAS to have more than 2 photos available that look like they were taken in 2012 and not 2001.

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: pac522 August 06, 2012, 11:21:14 PM
Uhhh... He's smiling in the older photo. When you smile your lips widen, your nostrils flares out and your eyes can squint. In the newer one, it looks as if he is raising his brows as well.

I can see how they look like different people but then I have to think about the two totally different smiles. I think the orange hair does is it too.

Although, in this day and age, why can't we see another photo that is better quality than the one with the girl in the back and this smily one? He HAS to have more than 2 photos available that look like they were taken in 2012 and not 2001.



It also looks as if he has lost some weight in the later photo. This is a distraction from the truth of what really happened.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: supermegaman August 06, 2012, 11:59:28 PM
two totally different people.  his pupils don't line up and his mouth is completely different.  but whatever,
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue August 07, 2012, 11:47:37 AM
two totally different people.  his pupils don't line up and his mouth is completely different.  but whatever, 

There's a thread for that:
Forum Member Gullibility Test: Is Paul McCartney Dead?  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=135693.0)

Please, please no more of that in this thread. We can move this idea to another thread. We've seen it now lets move on.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: larsonstdoc August 07, 2012, 02:22:55 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/james-holmes-psychiatrist-contacted-university-police-weeks-movie/story?id=16943858#.UCFqLq79Xag


James Holmes' Psychiatrist Contacted University Police Weeks Before Movie-Theater Shooting:

The psychiatrist who treated suspected movie-theater shooter James Holmes made contact with a University of Colorado police officer to express concerns about her patient's behavior several weeks before Holmes' alleged rampage, sources told ABC News.

The sources did not know what the officer approached by Dr. Lynne Fenton did with the information she passed along. They said, however, that the officer was recently interviewed, with an attorney present, by the Aurora Police Department as a part of the ongoing investigation of the shooting.

Fenton would have had to have serious concerns to break confidentiality with her patient to reach out to the police officer or others, the sources said. Under Colorado law, a psychiatrist can legally breach a pledge of confidentiality with a patient if he or she becomes aware of a serious and imminent threat that their patient might cause harm to others. Psychiatrists can also breach confidentiality if a court has ordered them to do so.

 

"For any physician to break doctor-patient confidentiality there would have to be an extremely good reason," said Dr. Carol Bernstein, a psychiatrist at NYU Langone Medical Center and past president of the American Psychiatric Association.

Bernstein has no specific knowledge of the Holmes case and spoke in general terms.

"Confidentiality is a key part of the doctor-patient relationship," she said. "It is central to everything we do."
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue August 07, 2012, 10:14:06 PM
Wow  - Loughner - Psycho Patsy - Perp fit for trial - and pleads guilty for life in prison "plea deal" -
So there will be no trial to bring out any facts as to his motives or the false flag operation


http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-jared-loughner-plead-guilty-20120807,0,1931406.story
Jared Loughner pleads guilty to killing 6 in Tucson shooting
...
The plea arrangement -- struck between federal prosecutors and defense attorneys after months of legal debate over Loughner’s mental capacity --  sets the stage for a likely prison sentence of life without parole.

Guess Psycho Patsy Perp Holmes will play the same game....
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 37 August 09, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
Judge accused of creating ‘unusual shroud of secrecy’ in movie theater shooting case
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/judge-asked-reconsider-gag-order-movie-theater-shooting-114639357.html

By Jason Sickles, Yahoo!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/102441014/James-Holmes-Jail-Booking-Report

The former grad student charged in last month's deadly shooting rampage at a Colorado movie theater gave his religion as "agnostic" and his occupation as "laborer" when booked into jail, according to a document released to Yahoo News this week.

The Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office booking report provides few other details about James Eagan Holmes or his motive for allegedly opening fire during a midnight showing of "Dark Knight Rises." Twelve people were killed and 58 others wounded.
The 24-year-old suspected gunman gave jailers his mother's name as an emergency contact.

The redacted two-page report was obtained by Yahoo News under a Colorado public records request. A request for additional records was denied.

"In weighing the public interests versus the private interests, the public interest would not be served by disclosing additional records," Arapahoe County Sheriff J. Grayson Robinson wrote in a response to Yahoo News.
"Mr. Holmes could potentially be significantly impacted by the release of his records and any corresponding publicity," he continued.

Grayson said part of his decision was based on a pretrial gag order issued by Chief District Judge William Sylvester.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator August 09, 2012, 12:04:17 PM
Guess Psycho Patsy Perp Holmes will play the same game....

In the Loughner case, the court ordered involuntary SSRIs to make the defendant “competent”. His original plea was “not guilty” in 2011.

Loughner’s plea spares him the death penalty and came soon after a federal judge found that months of forcibly medicating him to treat his schizophrenia had made the 23-year-old college dropout competent.

<snip>
Experts had concluded that Loughner suffers from schizophrenia, and officials at a federal prison have forcibly medicated him with psychotropic drugs for more than a year.

Court-appointed pyschologist Christina Pietz testified for an hour about how she believes Loughner became competent. Loughner listened calmly without expression. His arms were crossed over his stomach, lurched slightly forward and looking straight at Pietz.

At one point, he smiled and nodded when psychologist mentioned he had a special bond with one of the prison guards.

A plea agreement offers something for both sides, said Quin Denvir, a California defense attorney who has worked with Loughner attorney Judy Clarke on the case against unabomber Ted Kaczynski.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jared-loughner-pleads-guilty-to-arizona-shooting/

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: larsonstdoc August 09, 2012, 09:32:44 PM
http://www.blacklistednews.com/James_Holmes_Family_Tied_To_DARPA_And_Mind_Manipulation_Work/20710/0/0/0/Y/M.html




James Holmes Family Tied To DARPA And Mind Manipulation Work
July 26, 2012
Print Version
By Wayne Madsen

Aurora massacre: several links between James Holmes and U.S. government research (Salk Institute involved in neurologically enhancing soldiers' abilities on battlefield...connections to DARPA)

James Holmes, the 24-year old suspect in the mass shooting of Batman "The Dark Knight Rises" movie goers in Aurora, Colorado that left 12 people dead and 58 injured, has had a number of links to U.S. government-funded research centers. Holmes's past association with government research projects has prompted police and federal law enforcement officials to order laboratories and schools with which Holmes has had a past association not to talk to the press about Holmes.

Holmes was one of six recipients of a National Institutes of Health Neuroscience Training Grant at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in Denver. Holme is a graduate of the University of California at Riverside with a Bachelor of Science degree in neuroscience. Although Holmes dropped out of the PhD neuroscience program at Anschutz in June, police evacuated two buildings at the Anschutz center after the massacre at the Aurora movie theater. Holmes reportedly gave a presentation at the Anschutz campus in May on Micro DNA Biomarkers in a class titled "Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders."

Initial reports of Holmes having an accomplice in the theater shooting have been discounted by the Aurora police. However, no explanation has been given by police why the Anschutz campus buildings were evacuated after Holmes was already in custody in the Arapahoe County jail.

The Anschutz Medical Campus is on the recently de-commisioned site of the U.S. Army's Fitzsimons Army Medical Center and is named after Philip Anschutz, the billionaire Christian fundamentalist oil and railroad tycoon who also owns The Examiner newspaper chain and website and the neo-conservative Weekly Standard. The Anschutz Medical Campus was built by a $91 million grant from the Anschutz Foundation.

In 2006, at the age of 18, Holmes served as a research intern at the Salk Institute at the University of California at San Diego in La Jolla. It is noteworthy that for the previous two years before Holmes worked at the Salk Institute, the research center was partnered with the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency (DARPA), Columbia University, University of California at San Francisco, University of Wisconsin at Madison, Wake Forest University, and the Mars Company (the manufacturers of Milky Way and Snickers bars) to prevent fatigue in combat troops through the enhanced use of epicatechina, a blood flow-increasing and blood vessel-dilating anti-oxidant flavanol found in cocoa and, particularly, in dark chocolate.

The research was part of a larger DARPA program known as the "Peak Soldier Performance Program," which involved creating brain-machine interfaces for battlefield use, including human-robotic bionics for legs, arms, and eyes. DARPA works closely with the Defense Science Office on projects that include the medical research community. Fitzsimons was at the forefront of DARPA research on the use of brain-connected "neuroprosthetic" limbs for soldiers amputated or paralyzed in combat.

According to his LinkedIn profile, James Holmes's father, Dr. Robert Holmes, who received a PhD in Statistics in 1981 from the University of California at Berkeley, worked for San Diego-based HNC Software, Inc. from 2000 to 2002. HNC, known as a "neural network" company, and DARPA, beginning in 1998, have worked on developing "cortronic neural networks," which would allow machines to interpret aural and visual stimuli to think like humans. The cortronic concept was developed by HNC Software's chief scientist and co-founder, Robert Hecht-Nielsen. HNC merged with the Minneapolis-based Fair Isaac Corporation (FICO), a computer analysis and decision-making company. Robert Holmes continues to work at FICO.

It has also emerged that Holmes, when he was 20, worked as a camp counselor at Camp Max Straus of the Jewish Big Brothers and Sister of Los Angeles. According to the Jewish Journal, among other tasks, Holmes helped to teach boys between the ages of 7 to 10 archery. In another unusual detail, the car Holmes used to drive to the Aurora movie theater had Tennessee plates. Holmes is originally from San Diego.

James Holmes is the grandson of Lt. Col. Robert Holmes, one of the first Turkish language graduates of the Army Language School, later the Defense Language Institute, in Monterey, California. Graduating from the Turkish language class in 1948, Holmes spent a career in the Army, which likely included more than a few intelligence-related assignments. Typically, U.S. military officers conversant in Turkish served with either the Defense Intelligence Agency or the Central Intelligence Agency at either the U.S. embassy in Ankara or the Consulate General in Istanbul, or both.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: ekimdrachir August 09, 2012, 10:38:45 PM
Lawyers say Colorado shooting suspect has mental illness
James Holmes faces dozens of 1st-degree murder, attempted murder charges
The Associated Press
Posted: Aug 9, 2012 5:20 PM ET


(http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2012/08/09/li-james-holmes-620-rtr358k.jpg)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/08/09/colorado-shooting-suspect-mental-illness.html?cmp=rss (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/08/09/colorado-shooting-suspect-mental-illness.html?cmp=rss)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: chris jones August 10, 2012, 08:19:35 AM
Another turn of events:
There was some drama during Thursday's mostly procedural hearing. A woman seated in the second-to-last row of the courtroom stood up and said she had evidence of judicial misconduct on behalf of the public defender.

"I tried to deliver information vital to the defense of James Holmes to the public defender," the woman--in a red dress with a shaved head--said, her voice shaking.
                                             Whatever this gal had to say will never be heard.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator August 10, 2012, 12:44:32 PM
Another turn of events:
There was some drama during Thursday's mostly procedural hearing. A woman seated in the second-to-last row of the courtroom stood up and said she had evidence of judicial misconduct on behalf of the public defender.

"I tried to deliver information vital to the defense of James Holmes to the public defender," the woman--in a red dress with a shaved head--said, her voice shaking.
                                             Whatever this gal had to say will never be heard.


According to news reports, the woman is Allison Michelle Ernst, age 37, from Tucson. The internet sleuths have dug up a lawyer in Colorado, and a model so far. But nobody has been able to identify her, if she exists at all. Plenty of discussion about red-dress symbolism though.

Oh yea, another blurb about her being interviewed by “a reporter” talking about some 1950’s conspiracy and a white light surrounding Holmes. All hearsay, no facts.
: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: jofortruth August 20, 2012, 10:41:54 AM
http://www.herald.ie/news/my-jenny-loved-saving-lives-says-husband-of-drowned-batman-hero-3202626.html
http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Jennifer-Gallagher&lc=2379&pid=159051613&mid=5199644&locale=en-US

Here we go again! Is this another case of someone, by no fault of her own, being involved in an incident whereby afterwards they lose their life because they may have "known too much"? This has happened too many times, to not be questioned by thinking people!

How many incidents have we seen of late, whereby WITNESSES die or something else happens to them. Yet another? (See more of these types of incidents at link below!)

http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=10502


: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: jofortruth August 20, 2012, 11:43:42 AM
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x222/jo56_photos/c35ee806cca8e6966f495b00f6a19e46.jpg)


Thank you, Jenny, for helping those people! We don't know what happened to you, but if you were murdered for having been a witness, the American people must stand up and demand a real investigation of your death! THEY ALSO MUST ALL START BEING WHISTLEBLOWERS TO SAVE THEIR COUNTRY. IF THIS IS MURDER, IT CAN NOT STAND!

God rest your soul, and those of the shooting victims you tried to help!
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: SUPREMEMASTER August 20, 2012, 11:55:32 AM
Alex better rant and rave about this like there's no tomorrow.



I mean ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

COINCIDENCE = IMPOSSIBLE.
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: jofortruth August 20, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
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Tip: Folks, if you accidentally become involved in any of these types of incidents, you must watch your back! Too many of these suspicious events are occurring in America! IMO, it appears that witnesses are being silenced who know too much! You must protect yourself!


: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: One Revelator August 20, 2012, 02:38:41 PM
Stories don’t add up. Different locations. She wasn’t alone while “swimming”. Why was she found the next day? If she wasn’t a good swimmer, then why go out there to “swim”? No investigation into foul play. Aren’t life vests required when boating in most states?

Jenny Gallagher (46), from Co Meath, died while swimming with friends last week -- just days after she treated victims of the Batman premiere shootings in Colorado.

A devoted mum to Jack (5), she was among those praised by US president Barack Obama for saving lives.

<snip>

Greg explained that the family had travelled to nearby Ohio for a holiday when Jenny tragically drowned.

He and Jack had gone to sleep when Jenny and her friend decided to take a boat out on to a lake.
"She wasn't a very strong swimmer and I suppose she just wasn't able to stay afloat.
"The hardest thing is I may never know what really happened to Jenny."

<snip>

"She worked the morning after the Batman massacre in a very busy unit of the hospital -- so she saw everything really, some really bad injuries.

http://www.herald.ie/news/my-jenny-loved-saving-lives-says-husband-of-drowned-batman-hero-3202626.html


DENVER (AP) — A nurse who treated victims of the Aurora theater shooting in Colorado has drowned while on a family vacation in Iowa.

Forty-six-year-old Jennifer Gallagher, of Denver, died earlier this month. She went swimming in West Lake Okoboji the night of Aug. 6 and her body was found the next day.

http://www.necn.com/08/20/12/Nurse-who-treated-shooting-victims-drown/landing_nation.html?&apID=f067529fb78442b9a08380622019b014
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: jofortruth August 20, 2012, 02:47:39 PM
Yep, the inconsistency in how the incident was reported is another red flag. This same M.O. is a common thread throughout all of these very suspicious incidents (some think are False Flags for an agenda) over the past years, especially since 911.

: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: One Revelator August 20, 2012, 03:12:40 PM
They’re not even bothering with a narrative. Its just “Oh well, she’s dead. Let’s move on.” The few comments from the husband are probably the closest we’ll ever come to the truth. Hope all the players (LE, coroner, family, "friends", media) enjoy their new-found wealth, because it’s not going to last very long.
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: jofortruth August 20, 2012, 04:41:43 PM
They’re not even bothering with a narrative. Its just “Oh well, she’s dead. Let’s move on.” The few comments from the husband are probably the closest we’ll ever come to the truth. Hope all the players (LE, coroner, family, "friends", media) enjoy their new-found wealth, because it’s not going to last very long.

Pretty amazing, isn't it!

Note that the shooting occurred on July 20, 2012. She died on August 7, 2012. What's that 2 1/2 weeks? Hey, investigators, anybody care about justice? Do ya think you could do your job and find out who murdered this woman? Geesh! Even an amateur could see something is very wrong with this picture!  



 >:(
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: Blowback August 20, 2012, 05:01:23 PM
*Side issue - I get so irritated with Abby Martin over this stuff.  I don't understand how a 911 truther can be so condescending towards people who suggest the government was involved in these sort of things....

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7826359268_2dd1ea2907_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rex84/7826359268/)

: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O August 20, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
CONFLICTS WITH STORY ABOUT CAUSE OF DEATH
Dublin was the first to report any details says Jenny and friend "took a boat ride".  They also got the wrong state.  Iowa NOT Ohio.
http://www.herald.ie/news/my-jenny-loved-saving-lives-says-husband-of-drowned-batman-hero-3202626.html

Nurse Who “Saw Everything” At Hospital After Suspicious Batman Shooting Found Dead at 46
Correct info or more disinfo?  You decide.

http://www.theendrun.com/batman-shooting-nurse-jenny-gallagher-dead-at-46-alleged-drowning
TheEndRun.com
Aug 17, 2012

Jenny Gallagher, a nurse who treated victims of the highly suspicious “Batman” shooting in Aurora, Colorado last month, is dead at age 46. The reported cause of death: drowning.

“She worked the morning after the Batman massacre in a very busy unit of the hospital — so she saw everything really, some really bad injuries,” her husband Greg reportedly told Ireland’s Herald earlier today.

The mass-shooting, which left 12 dead and 58 more injured at a midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises at Century theater, is widely suspected to have been a black operation (akin to Columbine or the Sikh Temple shooting) based on the available evidence, numerous inconsistencies and implausibilities in the “official story”, the timing, and the way the event has been framed (some would say exploited) by certain powerful interests in the media and political arena.  See for example…

Obama Seeks US Congressional Ratification of UN Global Gun Control Treaty, Susanne Posel  (July 16)
Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged, Natural News (July 20)
James Holmes Batman shooting to justify UN small arms treaty gun grab?, Mike Adams (July 21)
Eyewitness: Second Shooter in Batman Massacre, YouTube, (July 21)
Witness: Someone let gunman inside Colorado movie theater, CNN/PrisonPlanet.com (July 22)
Colorado University Had Identical Drill On Same Day As ‘Batman’ Massacre, Paul Joseph Watson (July 23)
Shooter James Holmes and DARPA Weird Science, Kurt Nimmo/Wayne Madsen (July 24)
Fox News Channel Questions Narrative Of ‘Batman’ Massacre, Infowars/WXIX-Fox19 (July 25)
Gun Owners of America President Larry Pratt: Batman Shooting Could be Staged (July 27)
James Holmes Is Behaving Like Sirhan Sirhan, Paul Joseph Watson, (July 27)
Why Are Republicans Calling To Disarm The American People?, Paul Joseph Watson, (July 30)
The Batman op expands: you shot those people, Jon Rappoport (Aug 3)

U.C.H. HEROINE MEETS OBAMA

Jennifer Ann Gallagher (“Jenny”) lived in Denver and worked at the University of Colorado Hospital (UCH), where the largest share of the victims of the shooting were taken in the aftermath of the July 20th theater massacre. On July 22nd, Barack Obama personally visited the hospital to meet with the victims and staff. In a speech, Obama praised the UCH staff for their “extraordinary efforts”. As he spoke, he was flanked by Colorado Governor Hickenlooper, Aurora Police chief Oats, and several Congressmen.

A photo taken during Obama’s visit shows Gallagher just feet from Obama.  This was just over two weeks before her death.



WHEN AND WHERE: THE SCANT EARLY REPORTS OF GALLAGHER’S DEATH

Gallagher was actually found dead ten days ago, on August 7th.  Despite recent conflicting and incorrect reports about the location (multiple reports say it was in Colorado, while another says Ohio), The End Run has determined that she was actually found dead in Okoboji Lake, which is in Dickson County, Iowa, about 700 miles from her home town of Denver by car.

Within 24 hours or less of the discovery of her body, a short blurb about the death, which did not identify her by name, was published by the Associated Press and picked up by several local media outlets. It read:

Drowning reported at West Okoboji Lake

OKOBOJI, Iowa (AP) — Authorities say someone has drowned at West Okoboji Lake in northwest Iowa.

The Dickinson County Sheriff’s Office said officers responded to a report of a drowning a little after noon on Tuesday.

The office hasn’t released the victim’s name or any other details about the drowning.

On the morning of August 8th, the day after her body was reportedly discovered, the Dickson County Sheriff’s office issued a press release (cache) identifying Gallagher as the victim (although they misspelled her name) and providing a few additional details:

Victim identified in West Okoboji drowning

Published on Wednesday, 08 August 2012 06:30

On Tuesday, August 7, the Dickinson County Sheriff’s Office responded to a drowning on West Lake Okoboji. An investigation found that Jennifer Galagher, age 46, from Denver, Colorado, had been swimming the previous night in West Lake. On Tuesday morning, Galagher was reported missing by family.

A short time later, a family member located Galagher underneath a nearby dock. Medical personnel responded and she was pronounced dead at the scene.

Assisting the DCSO were:

Milford Fire/Rescue
Arnolds Park/Okoboji Dive Team
Lakes Regional Healthcare Ambulance
The incident remains under investigation by the Dickinson County Sheriff’s Office.

The AP then published another blurb based on this press release, which was reworked and/or republished by numerous local media outlets, primarily in Iowa, where she was found dead, and in Denver, Colorado, where she lived.  However, none of the short stories published in the local press at the time appear to have mentioned her connection to the then-highly-topical “Batman shooting”, or virtually any biographical information about her.  The death of this national heroine does not appear to have been picked up at all by the major U.S. national media. [Note: If this is incorrect, please send in links to the relevant stories by e-mail.]

DELAYED REVELATION

Yesterday, nine days after her body was found, an article was published by Ireland’s Herald which finally revealed some information about Gallagher and broke the story of her status as a UCH nurse and witness to the bloody aftermath of the carnage in Aurora.

This revelation has since been picked up and reported on by several other Irish sites, such as Ireland’s Independent.ie and the Irish-America IrishCentral.com, as well as the UK-based Belfast Telegraph.  However, as of this writing there still do not appear to be any reports by the major U.S. national media.

Gallagher grew up in Ireland, but has reportedly lived in Denver since moving there for college in the 1990′s.

CAUSE OF DEATH: THE ALLEGED DROWNING

To review: According to the initial press release by the Dickson County Sheriff’s office, Gallagher went swimming in West Lake Okoboji on the evening on Monday, August 6th, and didn’t come back. The next morning she was reported missing by her family members.  “A short time later, a family member located Galagher [sic] underneath a nearby dock. Medical personnel responded and she was pronounced dead at the scene.”

Ireland’s Herald.ie, who, again, revealed the Gallagher/Batman shooting connection yesterday, apparently conducted an exclusive interview with Gallagher’s husband Greg Pinson today, and they have now published a second article based upon it. Mr. Pinson is a surgeon with Surgical Specialists of Colorado. According to his curriculum vitae posted to the firm’s website, he received his undergraduate degree from Yale in 1994, his Doctorate from GWU in 1998, and did his residency at the University of Colorado School of Medicine through 2003. He is quoted by the Herald as having been married to Jenny for seven years. They have a five year old son, Jack.

Regarding the question of how Jenny died, the new Herald article says (cache):

Greg explained that the family had travelled [sic] to nearby Ohio [sic] for a holiday when Jenny tragically drowned.

He and Jack had gone to sleep when Jenny and her friend decided to take a boat out on to a lake.

“She wasn’t a very strong swimmer and I suppose she just wasn’t able to stay afloat.

“The hardest thing is I may never know what really happened to Jenny.”

Before analyzing this, let’s get a critical caveat out of the way: It is very difficult to discern the truth when dealing with second-hand media snippets like these, which are liable to contain misquotes, out of context quotes, misleading statements, and other misinformation.  For example, the first Herald article incorrectly said that Gallagher drowned in “a lake close to her home”.  The second article says that it was a lake in “nearby Ohio”. Besides the fact that Ohio is 1000+ miles from Denver, and thus not “nearby” at all, Gallagher was actually found in a lake in Iowa, which is also nowhere near Denver.

With that said, taken at face value, these two short accounts of Jenny Gallagher’s death (Sheriff’s Office and The Herald) seem to raise a number of questions:

1. Was she really not “a very strong swimmer”? Is her husband even correctly quoted on this matter by the Herald (who seem to have misquoted him elsewhere)? Jenny was 46 years old and a formidable athlete. She had been playing Gaelic football for over a decade, having competed in the North American finals in 2000.  Recently, she and her teammates on the Denver Gaels ladies football team competed in a tournament at the Colorado Irish Festival, which they won, beating teams from San Fransisco and Dallas. A tribute published in the club’s newsletter says that “memories of trips with the Gaels” such as “surfing in Costa Rica” would not “have been so fond had Jenny not been there”.

2. Why, while vacationing out of state, did Jenny decide to take a boat out onto a lake, at night, after her husband and son had already gone to bed, especially if she “wasn’t a very strong swimmer”?

3. If she did decide to do that, wouldn’t she at least wear a life vest?

4. Who is this friend that was allegedly with her? Why is this friend not identified by name? Why has this friend not been mentioned in previous reports?

5. If she did drown at night while boating with a “friend”, why were police and rescue crews not notified until the following day? The original Sheriff’s office press release said that she was “reported missing by family” the following “morning”. The initial AP report put the time even later –  “a little after noon” — and The Spencer Daily Reporter wrote on Aug 9th that, “Emergency crews recieved a 911 distress call at 12:45 p.m.” If a “friend” was out on the lake boating with Jenny and she disappeared in the water, wouldn’t this friend immediately rush to notify her husband and/or any other family member that may have been present, and wouldn’t they immediately alert rescue crews (assuming the friend hadn’t already)? Why did this apparently not happen?

6. If Jenny was out boating with a friend, disappeared in the water, and was later found drowned, why would her husband say, “The hardest thing is I may never know what really happened to Jenny”?

7. Who was the family member that located Jenny’s body under the dock? He or she apparently did so shortly after notifying authorities that she was “missing”, possibly even within minutes. The unnamed family member was apparently able to find her before professionally trained rescue crews. In fact, according to the Spencer Daily Reporter, this family member may have even “located” her before the crews could even begin searching: “Arnolds Park/Okoboji Fire Chief Christ Yungbluth said his department’s dive team did not have to conduct a search. … Resuce teams were on hand for nearly an hour but once they arrived at the scene, Galagher was pronounced dead.” West Okoboji Lake is approximately 3,847 acres in surface area. The Daily Reporter said that she was specifically found “in the area near Wheeler’s Beach just off of 1st Street in the city of West Okoboji.”

THE SHERIFF’S OFFICE IS MUM; APPARENTLY GALLAGHER’S DEATH IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION

In an attempt to obtain answers to these questions and clarification about the facts surrounding Jenny Gallagher’s death, The End Run contacted the Dickson County Sheriff’s Office by phone this evening (Friday).

The woman who answered the phone was familiar with the case, but refused to answer any questions about Jennifer Gallagher’s death. This included a direct question as to whether or not Gallagher was boating with another individual that night as reported by the Herald.  The woman referenced the August 8th press release posted to the Sheriff’s website, firmly stating that she could not provide any information besides what was contained in that report.

When asked if she could at least confirm whether or not the incident was (still) under investigation, she again referred me to the press release from nine days ago, which says, “The incident remains under investigation by the Dickinson County Sheriff’s Office”.

CONCLUSION

Given the suspicious nature of the “Batman” shooting, Jenny’s (heroic) involvement in the rescue operation at the hospital, and the timing of her unnatural death, it is only logical for researchers who understand government black operations (and corresponding cover-ups) to treat it as a potential homicide, and seek further information that confirms or refutes this hypothesis. This does not mean that it was a homicide. Accidents happen. This may have been a heartbreaking example of one. However, the publicly-available information about this death is relatively thin at this point, and it contains significant apparent contradictions and problems. Further investigation is needed by the independent media.

According to accounts written by those who knew her, Jenny Gallagher was an amazing woman; a loving mother and wife, an excellent nurse, and a person whose personality and kindness brought joy into the lives of those around her. Regardless of the cause, her untimely death is a tragedy, and my condolences go out to the many friends and family who knew and loved her. Hopefully others who investigate her death feel the same, and hopefully her family can understand our desire to seek further information about what happened to her.

The source of this report is TheEndRun.com.  The author can be reached by e-mail at the theendrunblog@gmail.com. Information about how to help support The End Run can be found here.



: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: Catalina August 20, 2012, 05:48:18 PM
Wow, she knew something. America is indeed a sad place to live in now. Unbelievably sick!
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O August 20, 2012, 06:08:34 PM
ATTENTION INFOWARS NEWS TEAM

(If you haven't made arrangements already) You guys need to get Jenny Gallagher’s husband on air with Alex ASAP!.
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: jofortruth August 20, 2012, 06:25:23 PM
ATTENTION INFOWARS NEWS TEAM

(If you haven't made arrangements already) You guys need to get Jenny Gallagher’s husband on air with Alex ASAP!.



I AGREE! ASAP! We need to hear his viewpoint because the powers that be will never tell the truth!
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: chris jones August 20, 2012, 08:38:59 PM
 Jennys husband stated:"The hardest thing is I may never know what really happened to Jenny."
 What a damn shame, my sympathy for her family, *heartfelt.
If Jenny knew something her husband must have gotten an ear full as well as others on duty that night.
 This decade alone our regime has slaughtered about half a million humans, tortured, and imprisoned.
Well guys, knowing this as we all do, its not unreasonable to to face the fact they would if so ordered take out a threat of any form, be it man, woman, child, they don't care folks, remember 911, Afhganistan, Iraq, Lybia, etc. there were hundred of thousands  INNOCENT humans genocided. THEY DON'T CARE.

: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: jofortruth August 20, 2012, 10:32:47 PM
Jennys husband stated:"The hardest thing is I may never know what really happened to Jenny."


Sadly, he is probably right, unless there is an official in Colorado with a backbone who will pursue this case! That is somewhat unrealistic because those at the top are totally corrupt, and their underlings are either brain dead or complicit!

However, since many think Colorado is the seat of the NWO, I would be moving to another State! All States have problems, but that one is a haven for globalists and their minions!

I feel for this guy and the family members of the others who died! Such a useless loss of life at the hands of total degenerates who have no respect for life and who are evil as the day is long and their pathetic minions!

: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: freedomrik August 21, 2012, 12:41:53 AM
Here is the husbands facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/greg.pinson.77 (https://www.facebook.com/greg.pinson.77)

and here is hers https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.gallagher.397 (https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.gallagher.397)
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O August 21, 2012, 01:02:42 AM
Here is the husbands facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/greg.pinson.77 (https://www.facebook.com/greg.pinson.77)

and here is hers https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.gallagher.397 (https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.gallagher.397)

No friend of Al Gore or Obummer.

Hope this guy gets on Alex's program.
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: freedomrik August 21, 2012, 01:21:45 AM
Here is her Obit,
   http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Jennifer-Gallagher&lc=2379&pid=159051613&mid=5199644 (http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Jennifer-Gallagher&lc=2379&pid=159051613&mid=5199644)

In Memory of
Jennifer Ann Gallagher
May 29, 1966 - August 7, 2012
Obituary

Jenny Gallagher, age 46, passed away August 7, 2012. Visitation will be held at Olinger Crown Hill Chapel of Peace on Saturday between 3:00 - 5:00 PM. Funeral service, Sunday, 11:00 AM at Olinger Crown Hill Pavilion of Reflection, West 29th Avenue and Wadsworth Blvd.


: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: freedomrik August 21, 2012, 01:34:13 AM
i found this   

Lorene46 minutes ago
This murder makes 2 witnesses from the Aurora shooting that have died within 2 weeks. Many witnesses said that someone-not James Holmes entered the theatre, sat on the front row, received a call to his cellphone, and open the exit door in the theatre to take his call and signaled to someone outside...then gas and shooting...weapons were found inside the theatre and witnesses indicated that a smoke bomb came from a direction that the shooting was coming from. The attack in Aurora was planned and executed and now mainstream media is covering it up.

here http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nurse-treated-dark-knight-rises-massacre-victims-drowns-iowa-article-1.1140376 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nurse-treated-dark-knight-rises-massacre-victims-drowns-iowa-article-1.1140376)

anyone know whom the other was?
: Re: * Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O August 21, 2012, 01:43:59 AM
Multiple witnesses saw the call taker open the door for someone to come in guns blazing.  This was what EVERY witness said locally in Denver.  The guy taking the call in no way had time to dress in all that body armor when the call was taken and the bullets started flying.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue August 21, 2012, 07:23:36 PM
See: Nurse who treated Batman Victims dies within days of doing so? Knew too much?   (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=235440.0;topicseen)

http://www.herald.ie/news/my-jenny-loved-saving-lives-says-husband-of-drowned-batman-hero-3202626.html
...

Jenny Gallagher (46), from Co Meath, died while swimming with friends last week -- just days after she treated victims of the Batman premiere shootings in Colorado.
 
...she was among those praised by US president Barack Obama for saving lives.
...

Greg explained that the family had travelled to nearby Ohio for a holiday when Jenny tragically drowned.
 
He and Jack had gone to sleep when Jenny and her friend decided to take a boat out on to a lake.
 
"She wasn't a very strong swimmer and I suppose she just wasn't able to stay afloat. [ ? ? ? ? ? Where was the "friend" ?  ]
 
"The hardest thing is I may never know what really happened to Jenny."
 
Greg said that she was renowned in her hospital in Colorado for the excellent care she gave patients.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Effie Trinket August 24, 2012, 08:23:10 AM
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120823/US.Colorado.Shooting.Hearing/

Prosecutors: Colo. suspect angry over academics

CENTENNIAL, Colorado — James Holmes was a promising neuroscience doctoral candidate, but by the end of the program's first year, he had fallen out of favor with professors and failed a key exam, prosecutors said.

Details of his behavior before he became a suspect in a suburban Denver theater shooting were not released. But it raised enough concerns for campus police to run a background check on Holmes, although University of Colorado spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery declined to elaborate on the reason Thursday.

Prosecutors went before a judge Thursday to seek the school's records on Holmes, including his application, grades and course schedules, and anything concerning his termination or withdrawal from the school in June. He had failed an oral board exam on June 7, then withdrew from the school three days later.

Holmes faces charges in a July 20 shooting during the new Batman movie that left 12 dead and 58 others wounded.

"What's going on in the defendant's life at the time is extremely relevant to this case," Chief Deputy District Attorney Karen Pearson said of their need for the documents.

Holmes' defense lawyer, Daniel King, has said Holmes is mentally ill, setting up a possible insanity defense. But Pearson's arguments Thursday revealed a possible motive: Holmes' anger that he was failing at school, "at the same time he's buying an enormous amount of ammunition, body armor and explosives."

A gag order has been issued in the case. Prosecutors argued that gaining access to the school records would establish a motive by showing what Holmes hoped to accomplish at CU and the "dissatisfaction with what occurred in his life that led to this."

They also want to see records from campus police and a campus threat evaluation team similar to those established across the country after the 2007 Virginia Tech University shootings.

Pearson said that professors had sought to keep Holmes out of their labs and that "professors urged that he find another line of business." University officials said Holmes lost access to university buildings after his withdrawal because his student access card was shut off, not because of threats.

King objected to the release of the records, arguing that the prosecutors' request for documents amounted to a "fishing expedition that needs to be stopped."

In addition to the school records, prosecutors have sought access to a notebook that Holmes reportedly sent to university psychiatrist Lynne Fenton. King claims that Holmes had sought out Fenton for help with his mental illness.

Pearson said prosecutors must establish whether Holmes was her patient, a relationship that would make it more difficult to access the notebook's contents. Fenton is expected to testify on Aug. 30.

School records don't have the same legal protection as communication between a doctor and patient. Records released by the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, a school Holmes considered attending, contained a letter of recommendation that said Holmes has "a great amount of intellectual and emotional maturity."

The dive in Holmes' academic performance could be a possible motive, one legal observer said.

"That's the kind of thing that is classic motivation for a murderer and doesn't support insanity," said Craig Silverman, a criminal defense attorney and former Denver prosecutor.

Holmes' family members who attended the hearing Thursday declined to comment.

___

Associated press reporter Dan Elliott contributed to this report.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Hawkwind August 24, 2012, 10:12:23 AM
http://www.thedevilsadvocates.info/2012/08/22/the-lady-in-red-counting-down-the-days-until-she-has-a-mysterious-accident/

RED ALERT!!!

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/allison-michelle-ernst

"the guilty party is philip anschutz, who owns half of regal cinemas and Anschutz mind controlled James to go to the theater to, knock out Anschutz’s competitor."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Anschutz

: Holmes Called University 9 Minutes Before Shooting
: One Revelator August 31, 2012, 11:49:57 AM
From Ted Rowlands and Jim Spellman, CNN
updated 5:58 AM EDT, Fri August 31, 2012

(CNN) -- James Holmes called a University of Colorado switchboard nine minutes before he allegedly opened fire at a movie theater in a Denver suburb on July 20, public defender Tamara Brady said in court Thursday.
The number can be used to get in contact with faculty members during off hours, she said.

More:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/30/justice/colorado-shooting/index.html
: Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open
: larsonstdoc September 08, 2012, 10:16:34 AM
http://www.examiner.com/article/aurora-theater-shooting-court-documents-blows-inside-job-conspiracy-wide-open

More at the link.
Mybe a mod can move this to the "Batman Massacre" Thread.

Newly released court documents in the Aurora, CO theater “Batman massacre” case reveals startling inside accusations about who may actually be behind the shootings that left at least 70 people either dead or injured in the early morning hours of July 20th.

Friday's report by the online version of Denver's Westword Magazine details shocking claims made by, what appears to be, a new victim in a case that has throttled a community still in morning over the tragic events. According to the court documents an individual, whose name has been officially redacted from the documents, came forward to file a “Motion to Intervene” for the right to be reasonably heard under the Crime Victims' Rights Act (a)(4), for the purposes of presenting newly discovered evidence to the court.



Corroborating much of a recent Conspiracy Examiner story maintaining the situation as potentially being another horrific (rogue government faction) conspiracy and possible false-flag event, the newly discovered evidence, thrown out of court by Judge William Sylvester days later, details stunning accusations against billionaire Philip Anschutz, Police Chief Dan Oates, Arapaho County Dist. Atty. Carol Chambers and, according to the alleged victim, the Illuminati as being potential co-conspirators in the crime.

The stunning accusations, dated August 27, reveal a startling story by the claimant as having been visited at home by police chief Dan Oates and Dist. Atty. Carol Chambers where they forced the unnamed individual to testify as a fake victim of the shootings, under the threat of being arrested for prostitution and escort services and charity fraud, for the purposes of garnering an easy conviction against alleged shooter James Holmes. But not before being shot by the police chief in “non-life-threatening areas” of the body, according to the motion, to appear as having been shot by James Holmes himself. The motion also claims that it is likely some of the victims in the theater were merely paid actors working on behalf of the conspirators and wants multiple individuals involved in the situation to take polygraph tests to prove their innocence.

Claiming that their conscience will not let fraudulent testimony contribute to an improper conviction of James Holmes, the new mystery victim asked that the judge submit the case to the FBI and the US Congress for further investigation into the alleged conspiracy. The judge, however, instead of taking a closer look, decided to strike down the motion as fraudulent, claiming the motion as likely being forged by an individual or individuals unassociated with the events. The judge also suggested the situation be investigated by the Arapahoe County Sheriff's office and those responsible for the motion be taken into custody by the Arapahoe County Department of Human Services and “referred to the appropriate mental health agency.”
: Re: Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open
: larsonstdoc September 08, 2012, 10:20:41 AM
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/09/aurora_theater_shooting_james_holmes_police_chief_illuminati.php


Aurora theater shooting: Bizarre court filing blames massacre on police chief, Illuminati

   



Earlier, we introduced you to the James Holmes is Innocent Facebook group, whose members say they're uninterested in wild conspiracy theories -- like, for example, the assertions in the strangest Aurora theater shooting document to date. The motion, made public yesterday and on view below, deals with claims allegedly (but not actually) made by a victim pointing the finger of blame at Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates and the Illuminati.
The filing, submitted on August 27, redacts the name of the person who supposedly submitted it -- but the text suggests that the moniker appears in the official charging document, which lists 116 counts of attempted murder. Moreover, the victim whose identity was appropriated is female, as indicated in an order by Judge William Sylvester that responds to the motion; it's on view below as well. A footnote reads, "The District Attorney's Office has informed the Court that the victim indicated in this Motion informed an investigator that she did not file it."

The text of the "Motion to Intervene" asks the court to take action in the James Holmes criminal case based on "newly discovered withheld evidence," as well as the author's eagerness to "speak out about the truth that i believe in my heart that James Holmes is innocent" and should be released immediately.




Why? Because, the document continues, "James is being framed by [Denver billionaire] Philip Anschutz, police chief Dan Oates, and the illuminati."
Also name-checked is 18th Judicial District DA Carol Chambers, who is supposedly forcing the filer to testify as a victim against her will. "I am not a victim" of James Holmes, the author continues, because "he never shot me."

So...what happened? "District Attorney Carol Chambers & Police chief Dan Oates came to my house and told me they are going to arrest me for online prostitution and escort services and charity fraud," the narrative continues, "and to make a deal with them to pretend I was a victim in this case. Dan Oates then shot me, told me in places [sic] that were not life threatening."

The writer then insists that "I don't want to lie under oath and pretend I'm a victim when i'm not and have my testimony contribute to James being convicted. I can't live with that."

After alleging that another person whose name has been redacted "is not a victim either," the motion concludes with the following:

"This case must be looked at by the F.B.I., Arapahoe county is corrupt. Free James Holmes! Other suppose [sic] victims in this case are govt actors. They all must take polygraph tests. Please donate to my charity, the proceeds will go to James for commissary and to get him real attorneys. I demand congress get involved too!"
: Re: Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open
: jerryweaver September 08, 2012, 10:32:15 AM
Wow, I wonder if we will ever see this on the tell-a-vision..  The hypno-box played this story for how many days non stop?  Talk about egg on your face!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

Link to court docs= http://www.scribd.com/doc/105211790/Motion-to-Intervene-in-James-Holmes-Case (http://www.scribd.com/doc/105211790/Motion-to-Intervene-in-James-Holmes-Case)
: Re: Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open
: Freelancer September 08, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Jerry, WOW just doesn't cover it, I had to read this twice to make sure I grasped everything properly.

This one may be hard to swallow, though in this reality is stranger than fiction society we live in, you have to take a good look at this.

If this women has any type of audio or video evidence of this

District Attorney Carol Chambers & Police chief Dan Oates came to my house and told me they are going to arrest me for online prostitution and escort services and charity fraud," the narrative continues, "and to make a deal with them to pretend I was a victim in this case. Dan Oates then shot me, told me in places [sic] that were not life threatening."


I would say were in for an interesting next few weeks.
: Re: Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open
: jerryweaver September 08, 2012, 11:00:30 AM
Comment at The Tree of liberty:

I thought I heard this on our radio this morning (in the car). The first thing I did was google it and "voila"!....it looks like it IS a story floating around! 

Can you believe that?! The Illuminati being mentioned on the RADIO! I have no idea if this website is good or not, but here it is:


http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1945927

It was on the radio!!

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: EvadingGrid September 08, 2012, 11:19:49 AM
 :o
Mybe a mod can move this to the "Batman Massacre" Thread.
;D
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: SUPREMEMASTER September 08, 2012, 11:27:59 AM
The judge, however, instead of taking a closer look, decided to strike down the motion as fraudulent, claiming the motion as likely being forged by an individual or individuals unassociated with the events. The judge also suggested the situation be investigated by the Arapahoe County Sheriff's office and those responsible for the motion be taken into custody by the Arapahoe County Department of Human Services and “referred to the appropriate mental health agency.”

Part of the conspiracy, judgey boy'?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Jackson Holly September 08, 2012, 11:31:39 AM


“referred to the appropriate mental health agency.”

The new American GULAG ....
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jerryweaver September 08, 2012, 11:43:14 AM

“referred to the appropriate mental health agency.”

The new American GULAG ....

This needs to go beyond the blogs and forums..  That Judge is going to try to cover it up..  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5dA1N3S9Es&feature=player_embedded
 
 Let's email  Rutherford   legal@rutherford.org

https://www.rutherford.org/  They helped Brandon Raub
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jerryweaver September 08, 2012, 12:08:46 PM
I sent the information to The Rutherford Institute.    Please do the same thing.     Maybe Oath keepers also.  Anybody else have ideas on how to help?
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jerryweaver September 08, 2012, 12:45:55 PM
Does anyone have a list of the alleged victims in the Aurora Theater incident. We may be able to figure out who the person who is being framed. 

Here is another clue. "under the threat of being arrested for prostitution and escort services and charity fraud".  Who on the list of gunshot victims has an arrest record?
: Re: Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open
: starvosan September 09, 2012, 02:00:03 PM
"Dan Oates then shot me, told me in places [sic] that were not life threatening."
C'mon people, this is the classic red herring.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jerryweaver September 09, 2012, 02:11:56 PM
C'mon people, this is the classic red herring.

Ya after thinking about this a little and getting some sleep I am suspicious of this court filing.
Think about it.  If the chief of police did those acts to you, Would you go to any court in that state so soon afterwards,  with an expectation that justice would be served? ?

I'm not saying that these types of things don't occur. Most who catch that kind of treatment by LEOs get the hell away as soon as possible. 
: Re: Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open
: One Revelator September 09, 2012, 02:31:39 PM
C'mon people, this is the classic red herring.

Yup. It’s not difficult to find the redacted names on the document. Obviously the court contacted this person and was told it was bogus. AFAIK the original filed doc tracks back to a free google blog with only one entry.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: SUPREMEMASTER September 10, 2012, 03:58:21 AM
So if the document was false, it was just a psy op to set the precedent that anyone who believes in this sort of thing is mentally ill? (especially if some kind of genuine whistle blower blows the whistle later? -- or something like that) :-\
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator September 10, 2012, 10:04:24 AM
So if the document was false, it was just a psy op to set the precedent that anyone who believes in this sort of thing is mentally ill? (especially if some kind of genuine whistle blower blows the whistle later? -- or something like that) :-\

I agree with starvosan. There’s plenty of stinkiness associated with this event without the document. But, a red herring would be to intentionally mislead citizen-journalists/investigators. Perception management would be a possible secondary effect to reinforce a preexisting passive mental state.

The fact that some people are willing to look at this particular document and write articles about it highlights the dwindling levels of trust in the judicial/executive branches of government.

The days of “trust us” and “stay out of it” are coming to an end while public scrutiny of not-so-trusted servants is increasing.

If the alleged writer won’t stand behind her own document, then it cannot be used.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 2Revolutions September 21, 2012, 07:38:47 AM
Prosecutors drop quest for movie-theater suspect's notebook

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/justice/colorado-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/justice/colorado-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_c2)

 A notebook allegedly mailed to a psychiatrist by movie-theater shooting suspect James Holmes before the July attack will remain off-limits to prosecutors, but defense lawyers will get to look at it under an agreement reached Thursday.

During a court hearing, prosecutors added 10 new attempted murder charges and amended 17 others among the 142 already lodged. Holmes appeared in court with close-cropped dark hair instead of the bright orange hair he had shortly after his arrest.



Attorneys will have to wear gloves and masks, and other precautions will be taken to prevent the loss of evidence should the notebook later become evidence in the case, according to the agreement.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120920105441-james-holmes-mug-large-0920-story-body.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 2Revolutions September 28, 2012, 12:29:41 PM
Prosecutors: Shooting suspect threatened professor

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/28/prosecutors-shooting-suspect-threatened-professor/57850760/1 (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/28/prosecutors-shooting-suspect-threatened-professor/57850760/1)

DENVER (AP) -- The suspect in a deadly movie theater attack was barred from the University of Colorado campus for threatening a professor, weeks before he opened fire at a midnight showing of the new Batman movie, prosecutors said in court documents released Friday.

That conflicts with the university's statements that Holmes was denied access to non-public parts of the campus because he had withdrawn from school.

Holmes also mailed a notebook to psychiatrist Lynne Fenton, a professor at the school, including violent descriptions of an attack, attorneys said. She never received the package addressed to her, and it wasn't discovered in a university mail room until after the shooting.

Defense attorneys don't want it to be used as evidence, saying it's protected by doctor-patient privilege. Fenton last saw Holmes professionally on June 11 before seeing him again in court on Aug. 30.

: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: Seeing November 20, 2012, 10:25:12 PM
[He] "insists the sporadic conversation continued even after Holmes was moved to another cell in the area. He says that Holmes told him 'he felt like he was in a video game' during the shooting, that 'he wasn't on his meds' and 'nobody would help him.' He says Holmes also mentioned NLP -- presumably, neuro-linguistic programming, a much-scorned and outmoded approach to psychotherapy -- and claimed to have been 'programmed' to kill by an evil therapist".

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/11/james_holmes_inmate_confession_suicide_aurora_theater_shooting.php (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/11/james_holmes_inmate_confession_suicide_aurora_theater_shooting.php)
: Re: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: starvosan November 20, 2012, 11:57:21 PM
That guy sounds like the classic red herring.  Throw the whole 'mind control' thing out there and then discredit it.  Soon they will release info that the informant wasn't even on the same floor of the jail, or not there at the same time, etc., totally destroying his story.  Then whenever the mind-control subject comes up, the average person will think "Oh yeah, I heard about that.  That was that liar -dude in the jail.  Programming?  Suuuuure.... ."
: Re: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: masterofthemoon November 21, 2012, 12:39:40 AM
Thomas Sheridan put forth an interesting analysis claiming he was a psychopath. He certainly has some of the main features that we can identify them by.
: Re: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: Seeing November 21, 2012, 04:41:03 AM
The most telling thing to me is the timing. Right before a meeting at the UN about arms control. Ad to that the different eye witness accounts. And then the vacant eyes of the guy after he was apprehended. Denver, home to the NWO and a close association to John Hinkley Jr. Then there's Columbine, JonBenét Patricia Ramsey, and many more oddities in a small circumference in the front range of Colorado.

DIA?

Something evil. I felt it and had to leave, not long after that little girl was killed.

I was sitting in a bar in Anchorage Alaska looking at the help wanted page the day Columbine happened.

Steven King should live in Boulder or Denver for a while to get his next inspiration.
: Re: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: Bracton November 21, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
I was sitting in a bar in Anchorage Alaska looking at the help wanted page the day Columbine happened.

Steven King should live in Boulder or Denver for a while to get his next inspiration.

Or did Mr. King inspire Columbine? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(Stephen_King_novel)
: Re: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: masterofthemoon November 21, 2012, 04:22:07 PM
In regards to columbine-
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=211767.msg1264857#msg1264857
: Re: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: chris jones November 21, 2012, 08:29:28 PM
 He's a dupe, programed. Repeated hypnoisis to a susceptable subject can iduce about anything, imagine this combined with Pyscho drugs.
 Every aspect of JH assault ,MSM reporting is managed. This guy will be segregated and go completly off his nut if they haven't sent him there allready, recruiters can sure pick their patsy's.
 No rant on the details of the cover story and various witnesses who were on scene and disagree with the spin, they will not be heard.
 P.S. ?Do folks believe the story about the underwear bomber? They actualy had a brain dipped kid attach lighter fluid to his testicles and ignite it. Go figure, folks ate it up, the MSM went full steam ahead on this and folks in general accepted this.
A drop of CIA humor, the kid burned his nuts off and Americans believe it. Oswald had a magic bullet,and J. Ruby killed him out of a sense of patriotism, Sirhan was working for ??. Or he simply up and decided he would kill RFK on his lonesome. Reagan was shot because this kid loved a movie actress. Iraq had massive WMD's factories & stockpiles, we saw the pictures, the Nigerian e mails, Powell actually told the United Nations this tale. Oh ya, OUR Congress went along, nice bunch of reps we have.
  We are being told by the elites controlled MSM what to believe, and the majority do. It reminds me of the kids game Simon Says, the regimists are High,High,High, power & controll, the Pyscho's ultimate positioning. A Pyscho or dedicated sociopaths are distinguishable only if they exibit manic behavior, the clever ones don't. It is imperitive the elites bring down this nation to fullfill their goal and they're getting here..
   
    . 
: Re: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: Freebird100 November 21, 2012, 09:16:00 PM
He's a dupe, programed. Repeated hypnoisis to a susceptable subject can iduce about anything, imagine this combined with Pyscho drugs.
 Every aspect of JH assault ,MSM reporting is managed. This guy will be segregated and go completly off his nut if they haven't sent him there allready, recruiters can sure pick their patsy's.
 No rant on the details of the cover story and various witnesses who were on scene and disagree with the spin, they will not be heard.
 P.S. ?Do folks believe the story about the underwear bomber? They actualy had a brain dipped kid attach lighter fluid to his testicles and ignite it. Go figure, folks ate it up, the MSM went full steam ahead on this and folks in general accepted this.
A drop of CIA humor, the kid burned his nuts off and Americans believe it. Oswald had a magic bullet,and J. Ruby killed him out of a sense of patriotism, Sirhan was working for ??. Or he simply up and decided he would kill RFK on his lonesome. Reagan was shot because this kid loved a movie actress. Iraq had massive WMD's factories & stockpiles, we saw the pictures, the Nigerian e mails, Powell actually told the United Nations this tale. Oh ya, OUR Congress went along, nice bunch of reps we have.
  We are being told by the elites controlled MSM what to believe, and the majority do. It reminds me of the kids game Simon Says, the regimists are High,High,High, power & controll, the Pyscho's ultimate positioning. A Pyscho or dedicated sociopaths are distinguishable only if they exibit manic behavior, the clever ones don't. It is imperitive the elites bring down this nation to fullfill their goal and they're getting here..
   
    . 
I hear you Chris,I hear you.
: Re: Fellow inmate says Aurora shooter James Holmes claimed he was programed to kill.
: Seeing November 21, 2012, 11:47:08 PM
I hear you Chris,I hear you.

Me too.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue November 26, 2012, 07:09:36 PM
Notice that New York City (licencing) and Chicago has gun restrictions for law abiding citizens, only psychos, criminals and cops are allowed to have deadly weapons. Notice the timing of these statements. BO barely gets half the votes, and they act as if it were a landslide.

Our country has more people in prison then any other country . Is that Law and Order enough? Do they really want a populace that can't fight back? [YES]
 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/26/nypd-ray-kelly-obama-gun-violence
New York police chief Ray Kelly criticises Obama on gun violence
After five-year-old girl is wounded in the Bronx, commissioner notes gun crime is high in president's hometown of Chicago

New York's police chief has hit out at President Barack Obama over his refusal to tackle gun violence, accusing him of uttering "barely a peep" on the issue.

NYPD commissioner Raymond Kelly is quoted in the New York Daily News as noting that Chicago is "maybe the city most affected" by gun violence, adding: "The president's hometown. But barely a peep out of him."

His comments echo that of mayor Michael Bloomberg, who has repeatedly called on the White House to act over America's lax gun controls, but to no avail.

Bloomberg is one of the highest profile anti-gun politicians in the US, regularly pumping his own money into campaigns to counter the influence of the pro-gun National Rifle Association.

In the aftermath of the Colorado theatre massacre earlier this year – a mass shooting that resulted in the deaths of 12 moviegoers – he issued a stark challenge to Obama and his then-rival for the White House, Mitt Romney.

"You know, soothing words are nice, but maybe it's time that the two people who want to be president of the United States stand up and tell us what they are going to do about it," he said at the time.


New York has seen a decline in gun-related homicides in recent years, but as Bloomberg noted after a recent fatal shooting outside the Empire State Building, the city is "not immune to the problem of gun violence".
...

Prior to coming into office, Obama had been a vocal supporter of a ban on semi-automatic weapons and a tightening up of gun controls in general.

But since assuming office, he has largely remained silent on greater restrictions on ownership. And in 2009 he signed laws allowing people to carry concealed weapons in the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone and other national parks and have guns in checked bags on Amtrak trains.
...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_York
...

Rifles and shotguns do not have to be registered in any jurisdiction within New York State except for New York City.[6][7] New York City requires registration and has additional restrictions such as they cannot take a detachable magazine having a capacity greater than five rounds.[9]  ...

Check out this BS to get a license in NYC:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/handgun_licensing_information.shtml

. Photographs: Two (2) color photographs of you taken within the past thirty (30) days are required.
2. Birth Certificate
3. Proof of Citizenship/Alien Registration
4. Military Discharge
5. Proof of Residence:
6. Arrest Information: If you were ever arrested, indicted or summonsed for any reason, other than a parking violation, you must answer "Yes"
6a. Order of Protection
7. Proof of Business Ownership: If you are making application for a carry or premises license for use in connection with a business, you must submit proof of ownership for that business
8. Letter of Necessity: All applicants for a carry license and those seeking a premises license for use in connection with their employment MUST complete the Letter of Necessity
9. Social Security Card: All persons filing applications must bring their original Social Security cards with them to the License Division when applying for a license.

Fees
The application fee is $340.00.
Please note that effective March 19, 2012, the fingerprint fee is $91.50 for all applicants.
ALL FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE
 
Again notice the timing of this...

Surprise! NY Times Pushes Obama On Gun Control

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/24/opinion/promises-on-gun-control.html?hp


This is what the NY Times editorial board runs with the day after Thanksgiving, cause it’s a super duper most important issue, unlike America being broke, facing the fiscal cliff, a stagnant economy, Iran, post-Sandy cleanup, housing still in the dumps, etc

    President Obama’s fleeting mention of the need for stronger gun controls at a presidential debate last month was hardly the kind of forceful political statement needed to address the scourge of gun violence in this country. Even his tepid remark was considered by the nation’s gun owners as a threat to take away their firearms. In what amounts to a buyers’ panic, they are again ramping up gun and ammunition sales as they did four years ago, convinced that Mr. Obama intends a gun-control crackdown.

    Mr. Obama talked about starting “a broader conversation” about reducing gun violence. The best place to start is in Congress, which has been grossly negligent toward constituent safety for the past 20 years as it bows to the demands of the gun lobby.

Yeah, because violating that pesky Bill Of Rights is no big deal in NY Times World. And it’s rather strange that the majority of gun violence tends to occur in Democrat held areas, eh?

    Mr. Obama is free of the pressures of campaigning — and free to lead the nation toward sensible laws that can help reduce the flood of guns and related homicides.

Funny stuff, they actually linked Obama to leading. That would be a first.

    The need for strong leadership on this issue is growing as statehouse politicians cave to ever more lethal demands from the gun lobby. State laws allowing students to go armed to class in Colorado, freeing owners in Oklahoma to wear holstered weapons in public, and letting people “stand your ground” in Florida and a score of other states have already damaged public safety immeasurably.

In Times World, citizens should not be free to shield themselves from criminals who carry guns obtained illegally. All of those measures mentioned allow law abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families from people who would do them harm. I wonder if the NY Times editorial board would be willing to give up the armed guards in the lobby at the NY Times building.

The Times worries about the “30,000 lives lost to gun violence every year.” What they don’t tell you is that around half of those are suicides. Of the remaining, in 2010 (the latest year for data), 8775 were from crime, the rest accidental. That’s with over 270 million privately owned guns. I wonder how many crimes were prevented because someone owns a gun? Hmm, an estimated 2.5 million? And women are the most likely to be saved by owning a gun? And most shootings involved criminals killing other criminals? Oh, and women are the biggest recipients of being able to show a gun to someone who is looking to harm them?

Perhaps the Times should be concerned with the 1 million plus abortions this year.

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2012/11/24/surprise-ny-times-pushes-obama-on-gun-control/
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: larsonstdoc November 26, 2012, 08:21:41 PM


  Over 90% of Montanans have guns.  Below is the only gun control we believe in.



(http://hal123pov.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/funny_gun_control_mouse_pad_2_mousepad-p144761054782451412envq7_400.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 37 November 29, 2012, 08:28:53 AM
^^^ Amen to Aimin'
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue November 29, 2012, 12:42:32 PM
Interesting AJ covering the Mind Control aspects of Holmes today - other Inmates saying what they've heard him say.

"A paid, salaried PHd student" - take that into account where later interviews say that he was not worthy of his situation
.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: 37 November 29, 2012, 05:04:56 PM
Other paid phd students who went on shooting sprees include Gang Lu at Iowa and Andreas Drexler of Stanford who shot and killed two people after driving cross country to Indiana.  Gang Lu was considered the foremost expert in the field of plasma energy and Drexler had written his own computer language.  It's my opinion they were both eliminated for their research...both were working under contract from federal agencies like NASA and the Office of Naval Intelligence.

The cover story employed for both, their events happened only a few months apart, was that they had been stressed out from the pressure of their work and had emotional control problems.  You can see the same psychology being employed here...perhaps not directly, but it is implied.
: Holmes(mini trial) this week.
: chris jones January 06, 2013, 02:37:10 PM
Associated .Press.:
CENTENNIAL, Colo. (AP) — The suspect in the Colorado movie theater killings returns to court this week for a hearing that might be the closest thing to a trial the victims and their families will get to see.
 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue January 07, 2013, 12:42:49 PM
http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_22325169/major-hearing-aurora-theater-shooting-case-begin-today

Major hearing in Aurora theater shooting case to begin today
By John Ingold, The Denver Postmercurynews.com
Posted:   01/07/2013 09:17:53 AM PST

CENTENNIAL -- Aurora police seized four prescription bottles and immunization records when they searched theater-shooting suspect James Holmes' apartment in July, according to newly obtained filings in the murder case against Holmes.

The disclosures come in a back-and-forth between prosecutors and defense attorneys over whether those items should be subject to doctor-patient confidentiality. The judge ultimately ruled in October that prosecutors could keep the items.

Holmes is charged with 166 counts of murder, attempted murder and other offenses in the July 20 shooting rampage at an Aurora movie theater that left 12 dead and at least 58 injured.

The documents -- many of which are heavily redacted -- do not reveal what prescriptions the bottles were for or whether prosecutors intend to use them as evidence.

The documents simply add new droplets to the dribbled stream of information in the past several months about the theater shooting.

That stream, though, is expected to turn into a torrent starting Monday, when prosecutors begin laying out their case against Holmes in a critical hearing that will determine whether there is enough evidence for Holmes to face trial.

The proceeding -- known jointly as a preliminary hearing and a "proof evident/presumption great" hearing -- starts at 9 a.m. Monday in the Arapahoe County courthouse and is expected to last all week.

It is expected to be the first time detectives testify at length about the case and the first time prosecutors show pictures and video of the shooting scene.

The hearing may also be the first time Holmes' attorneys are able to thoroughly challenge prosecution evidence and present their own version of the story.

By the end of the week, the public will likely know far more than it does now about the planning, execution and, perhaps, motive behind one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history.

....

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O January 07, 2013, 12:51:40 PM
Note that this trial is ALSO timed just right when all this gun legislation is going down.  ;)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue January 07, 2013, 12:58:33 PM
Note that this trial is ALSO timed just right when all this gun legislation is going down.  ;)

Yes it is a  Critical Mass attack!

http://houstontransit.blogs.rice.edu/2011/04/02/critical-mass/
(http://houstontransit.blogs.rice.edu/files/2011/04/potw_09.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: pac522 January 07, 2013, 06:29:41 PM
Yes it is a  Critical Mass attack!

http://houstontransit.blogs.rice.edu/2011/04/02/critical-mass/
(http://houstontransit.blogs.rice.edu/files/2011/04/potw_09.jpg)



It'll be interesting to see what comes to light on the brainwashing issue. This could be the proverbial snowball starting to roll down the hill.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue January 09, 2013, 03:25:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swv4PSpeVLw
The common Denominator - MASS MURDER SUICIDES - Prescriptions Drugs
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Sasha January 09, 2013, 04:12:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swv4PSpeVLw
The common Denominator - MASS MURDER SUICIDES - Prescriptions Drugs

Powerful vid!  Thanks for the share.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: One Revelator February 06, 2013, 10:34:39 AM
Added for cross reference.

James Holmes Cellmate EXPOSED As Officer LIES ABOUT HOLMES
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=241777.0
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue February 17, 2013, 04:43:03 PM
bump for Sandy Hook Precursor

How did he know or able to get, or have the time to setup those explosives in his apartment? Why didn't they go off?

need to move to : http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=371.0
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue February 21, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
Were the explosive devices fully explored - How what why - did he get his hands on the info and explosives to do this?

Isn't this like the Brevik - Oslo Norway bombing ( that seemed impossible for brevik to do without HELP


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18937726
22 July 2012
Aurora Batman shootings: 'Explosives cleared' at suspect's home

Robots were initially used at the home of James Holmes in Aurora, but agents still had to enter without setting off any remaining devices.

Police said the suspect had acted with "calculation and deliberation", taking ammunition deliveries for months.
...
'Designed to kill'
 
FBI agents and police discovered the home was booby-trapped when they used a camera at the end of a 12-foot pole to look inside.

Aurora police chief Dan Oates said: "I've personally never seen anything like what we've found in there."

Early on Sunday the bomb squad staged a small controlled explosion in the building and officers disarmed trip-wires and an incendiary device.

The first trip wire was strung across the doorway of the flat, and inside were reported to be jars filled with accelerants, chemicals that would explode when mixed together and more than 30 improvised grenades.

Mr Oates said: "This apartment was designed to kill whoever entered it," adding that would most probably have been a police officer.
...
jame Holmes - He also bought 6,000 rounds of ammunition over the internet, Mr Oates said.

The police chief said that all weapons and ammunition were purchased legally within the past few months, and that the suspect had received a high volume of packages to his home and work place [ what work place?] .


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/01/james-holmess-macgyver-trap-cops-made-entire-apartment-explode/60739/
James Holmes Cop Trap 'Would Have Made the Entire Apartment Explode'

David Wagner 1,304 ViewsJan 8, 2013


 Day two of the Aurora shooting trial wasn't quite as heartbreaking as the first, with local police from the movie theater replaced on the witness stand by bombing experts dissecting the suspect's apartment. But Tuesday's new evidence painted just as chilling a picture: James Holmes had a series of meticulously laid traps waiting for first responders, right down to a frying pan.
 
FBI bomb technician Garrett Gumbinner submitted testimony in Arapahoe County District Court about the elaborate series of bombs awaiting law enforcement officers who arrived at the scene of Holmes's apartment shortly after he allegedly opened fire at the Century 16 theater. Gumbinner, who was one of the agents who interviewed Holmes just after the shooting, recalled, "He said he rigged his apartment to explode or catch fire in order to divert police resources to his apartment."

The disturbingly MacGyvered rigging involved jars packed with napalm, blaring music, a remote controlled car, and an improvised tripwire. A thermos full of glycerine hung over a frying pan loaded with oxidizing crystals.

One of Holmes's thwarted plots, as outlined by Gumbinner, would've gone like this: A computer programmed to play about a half-hour of silence before launching into some high-volume music would've forced annoyed neighbors to call the cops.

Upon responding, the police would've triggered an explosion by stepping into tripwire strung across the front door. "It would have caused fire and sparks," said Gumbinner.

The gasoline-soaked carpet "would have made the entire apartment explode or catch fire."

And the white powder sprinkled on Holmes' carpet—ammonium chloride—would've produced a lot of smoke which Gumbinner says was meant "to scare us."
 
Another detonation scenario would've been set in motion by a remote controlled car. Holmes had apparently placed another set of pre-programmed speakers in a trash bag just outside the apartment. If someone were to have approached the noisy trash bag, picked up the remote control, and tried to drive the car, they would've set off a second set of bombs located in the apartment.

Perhaps the most unsettling thing revealed by Tuesday's testimony from an ATF agent is that Holmes acquired all the chemicals to build these traps legally, according to ABC News's Carol McKinley and Christina Ng.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue March 12, 2013, 04:04:26 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/12/james-holmes-trial-not-guilty-plea
Judge enters not guilty plea for James Holmes in Aurora shooting trial
Colorado judge takes unusual step after defence lawyer says accused shooter is not yet ready to enter a plea for himself
Associated Press in Centennial, Colorado
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 12 March 2013 12.31 EDT
...
The judge says Holmes can change his plea to not guilty by reason of insanity later, if he chooses.
...
Holmes sat silently at Tuesday's hearing with unruly hair and thick beard.

If convicted, Holmes could be executed or spend the rest of his life in prison.

He's charged with multiple counts of murder and attempted murder. Twelve people were killed and 70 wounded in the July 20 attack on moviegoers in Aurora.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue March 12, 2013, 11:36:17 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/12/judge-approves-truth-serum-james-holmes

Judge approves use of 'truth serum' on accused Aurora shooter James Holmes

Legal experts question use of 'narcoanalytic interview' to settle question of Holmes's legal insanity at time of theater shooting

Ed Pilkington in New York

The Guardian, Tuesday 12 March 2013 16.13 EDT

Legal and medical experts are questioning the decision of a judge in Colorado to allow James Holmes, the suspected gunman in the Aurora cinema shooting, to be tested with a "truth serum" should he plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

Judge William Sylvester ruled that in the event of Holmes pleading insanity his prosecutors would be permitted to interrogate him while he is under the influence of a medical drug designed to loosen him up and get him to talk. The idea would be that such a "narcoanalytic interview" would be used to confirm whether or not he had been legally insane when he embarked on his shooting spree on 20 July last year.

The precise identity of the drug that would be used has not been released, other than a statement that it would be "medically appropriate", but it would most likely be a short-acting barbiturate such as sodium amytal
...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: larsonstdoc March 12, 2013, 11:50:59 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/12/judge-approves-truth-serum-james-holmes

Judge approves use of 'truth serum' on accused Aurora shooter James Holmes

Legal experts question use of 'narcoanalytic interview' to settle question of Holmes's legal insanity at time of theater shooting

Ed Pilkington in New York

The Guardian, Tuesday 12 March 2013 16.13 EDT

Legal and medical experts are questioning the decision of a judge in Colorado to allow James Holmes, the suspected gunman in the Aurora cinema shooting, to be tested with a "truth serum" should he plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

Judge William Sylvester ruled that in the event of Holmes pleading insanity his prosecutors would be permitted to interrogate him while he is under the influence of a medical drug designed to loosen him up and get him to talk. The idea would be that such a "narcoanalytic interview" would be used to confirm whether or not he had been legally insane when he embarked on his shooting spree on 20 July last year.

The precise identity of the drug that would be used has not been released, other than a statement that it would be "medically appropriate", but it would most likely be a short-acting barbiturate such as sodium amytal
...


  This seems so illegal.  Alex said the same thing today.

  Alex also said the Batman killings were SO STAGED.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: John_Back_From_The_Club_O March 13, 2013, 12:48:03 AM


  Alex also said the Batman killings were SO STAGED.

You don't need Alex to figure that one out.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue March 21, 2013, 01:59:06 PM
bump - talking about how Holmes is being given "truth serum" for trial....

see: http://www.herbogeminis.com/IMG/pdf/acid_dreams.pdf

http://www.infowars.com/the-cia-james-holmes-mkultra-and-truth-serum-torture/
The CIA, James Holmes, MKULTRA, and truth-serum torture
Jon Rappoport
 Infowars.com
 March 18, 2013

In 2002, author Martin Lee wrote an article for Common Dreams: “Truth Serum and Torture.”
 
It could have been written yesterday, because now a Colorado judge has stated that, if James Holmes pleads not guilty by reason of insanity to the Aurora murders, state psychiatrists can subject him to drugs that will “help him remember his state of mind” at the time of the shootings. The drugging will reveal whether he really was insane that night last summer at the Aurora theater.
 
Well, when it comes to so-called truth drugs like sodium pentothal, sodium amatyl, scopolamine, mescaline, LSD, and hypnotic benzodiazepines, where are the pros with real experience?
 
At run-of-the-mill psychiatric wards? No. Those hacks in the Colorado state hospital system have rarely if ever tried out the drugs for the purpose of getting at the truth.
 
But the CIA has up-to-date interrogators around, and thousands of pages of MKULTRA (mind control) literature, that constitute the best experience in this dark art.
 
Therefore, it’s highly probable the CIA or their independent contractors will be sitting in on James Holmes’ drug-induced sessions, supervising them, giving advice. It’s the Ghostbusters motto: “Who ya gonna call?”

...
We shouldn’t discount the possibility that James Holmes, once he enters an insanity plea, and is sent away to a secure hospital for psychiatric eval, will be given drugs that produce the kind of mad panic that will convince him to say, in court, exactly what his handlers want him to say.
...
These drugs are certainly being used in national security cases. Therefore, as Cannistraro predicts, they are now entering the mainstream as the standard. The astonishing statement from the court judge in the James Holmes case, ordering his truth-drug interrogation, couldn’t be a clearer signal:
 
full-speed ahead in chemically inducing a suspect to give up his right not to incriminate himself;
forget the fact that such truth-drug interrogations are notoriously unreliable;
forget the damage suspects can incur from the effects of the drugs;
 
and most of all, forget the fact that, although truth drugs don’t work reliably, they can be used to create such terror that the suspect will do or say anything to escape more dosing.
 
Many people have observed that James Holmes already looks like a man who has been heavily drugged, while in custody.
...
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jofortruth April 05, 2013, 03:03:16 PM
CONFIRMED: Batman Shooter James Holmes was on Psychotropic Drugs (Zoloft):
http://www.infowars.com/confirmed-batman-s...hotropic-drugs/ (http://www.infowars.com/confirmed-batman-shooter-james-holmes-was-on-psychotropic-drugs/)
http://www.infowars.com/court-filing-cops-...batman-shooter/ (http://www.infowars.com/court-filing-cops-seized-prescription-meds-belonging-to-batman-shooter/)


Documents released recently: (Look through these and see what you can find)
http://www.digtriad.com/news/local/article/278645/57/Documents-Released-In-Aurora-Theatre-Shooting-Case

Read Documents Here:

Search Warrant 1690 North Paris Street #10
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404070132_holmesdoc1.pdf

Search Warrant 1690 Paris Street #5
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404070132_holmesdoc2.pdf

Search Warrant 1945 North Wheeling Street Bldg T36
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065158_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%201945%20North%20Wheeling%20Street%20Bldg%20T36.pdf

Search Warrant 2000 Hyundai Tiburon 2 door
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065204_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%202000%20Hyundai%20Tiburon%202%20door.pdf

Search Warrant Apple iPhone 858-449-7348
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065211_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%20Apple%20iPhone%20858-449-7348.pdf

Search Warrant Black NZXT eCyberpower Tower
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065220_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%20Black%20NZXT%20eCyberpower%20Tower.pdf

Search Warrant Cellco Partnership dba Verizon
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065227_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%20Cellco%20Partnership%20dba%20Verizon%20858-449-7348.pdf

Search Warrant Federal Express Corp
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065325_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%20Federal%20Express%20Corp.pdf

Search Warrant FedEx Ground Package System
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404071041_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%20FedEx%20Ground%20Package%20System.pdf

Search Warrant Google Inc classic.jimbo@gmail.com
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065331_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%20Google%20Inc%20classic.jimbo@gmail.com.pdf

Search Warrant Google Inc dsherlockb@gmail.com
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065345_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%20Google%20Inc%20dsherlockb@gmail.com.pdf

Search Warrant Microsoft Corp dsherlockb@hotmail.com
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065350_12CR1522%20Search%20Warrant%20Microsoft%20Corp%20dsherlockb@hotmail.com.pdf

Warrantless Arrest Affidavit
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404065354_12CR1522%20Warrantless%20Arrest%20Affidavit.pdf
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jofortruth April 05, 2013, 04:02:02 PM
1st Document linked above is "Search Warrant 1690 North Paris Street #10" (NOTE PAGES 7, 9, 14 items found in his home)
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404070132_holmesdoc1.pdf

Pg 7 Pharmacy Paper
Pg 9 Beer bottles & books on neuroscience etc
Pg 14 Clonazepam (anti anxiety drug) (a few others listed before this I can't read - Loratadine is like Claritin?)  and one above that 1st on list is SERTRALINE (ZOLOFT)
http://www.medicinenet.com/clonazepam/article.htm
http://www.medicinenet.com/loratadine/article.htm
http://www.medicinenet.com/sertraline/article.htm


THE SMOKING GUN OF THE COLORADO SHOOTER. HE WAS ON ZOLOFT!
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: chris jones April 05, 2013, 04:36:42 PM
1st Document linked above is "Search Warrant 1690 North Paris Street #10" (NOTE PAGES 7, 9, 14 items found in his home)
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/130404070132_holmesdoc1.pdf

Pg 7 Pharmacy Paper
Pg 9 Beer bottles & books on neuroscience etc
Pg 14 Clonazepam (anti anxiety drug) (a few others listed before this I can't read - Loratadine is like Claritin?)  and one above that 1st on list is SERTRALINE (ZOLOFT)
http://www.medicinenet.com/clonazepam/article.htm
http://www.medicinenet.com/loratadine/article.htm
http://www.medicinenet.com/sertraline/article.htm


THE SMOKING GUN OF THE COLORADO SHOOTER. HE WAS ON ZOLOFT!
           Hi Jo. Bumped, they stomped on his brain, dipped.
Patsy's, this poor slob was run through the gauntlett..End rant: The fact the shooter was let in proves there was an accomplice.
This guy could be mimicked so mucken easliy, ( a bright orange wig and gas mask ).
 Sure he was on meds but I'll bet a buck to a dime there was much more than what they are exposing, I'm still waiting for his bloodwork, gun powder residue evidence, his lawyers cridentials (history /connections) arresting officers reports in total, witness testimony contrary to the spin,                        It reminds me of the UNDY bomber scon.
  Sandy Hook, still waiting for any mucken thing credible, a few hundred bullets supposedly fired and no exterior bullet holes, walls, windows, doors         Zip..             we are being fed            shiiite sandwiches..
         
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue April 05, 2013, 05:37:47 PM
I think he was on alot more and this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sertraline

Sertraline hydrochloride (trade names Zoloft, Lustral) is an antidepressant of the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) class. It was introduced to the market by Pfizer in 1991. Sertraline is primarily used to treat major depressive disorder in adult outpatients as well as obsessive–compulsive, panic, and social anxiety disorders in both adults and children. In 2011, it was the second-most prescribed antidepressant on the U.S. retail market, with 37,208,000 prescriptions
...
Suicide
 
The FDA requires all antidepressants, including sertraline, to carry a black box warning stating that antidepressants may increase the risk of suicide in persons younger than 25. This warning is based on statistical analyses conducted by two independent groups of FDA experts that found a 2-fold increase of suicidal ideation and behavior in children and adolescents, and a 1.5-fold increase of suicidal behavior in the 18–24 age group

http://depressionintrospection.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/the-zoloft-rageviolence-connection/

Apparently, Brynn Hartman, the wife of famous comedian Phil Hartman, killed herself and her husband while taking Zoloft. While close friends attribute the sudden behavior on the antidepressant, others attribute it to a combination of the medication with cocaine and alcohol in her system. (Zoloft does have a warning against alcohol use in conjunction with the drug.)

http://www.consumerinjurylawyers.com/zoloft/Zoloft-Lawsuit.html

In 1999, a Zoloft lawsuit gained media attention when a Zoloft user, Brynn Hartman killed her husband, comedian Phil Hartman, and then killed herself. The lawsuit on behalf of Mr. Hartman’s estate alleged that Mrs. Hartman’s Zoloft use caused her to engage in violent behavior and take her husband’s life.

The lawsuit alleged Pfizer did not adequately warn Mrs. Hartman of Zoloft’s side effects.

Pfizer settled the lawsuit with the estate for an undisclosed amount.

In 2004, a lawsuit was brought on behalf of injured California consumers against Pfizer under California’s Unfair Competition Laws. The Zoloft lawsuit alleged that Pfizer misled users by withholding evidence about Zoloft’s:
 
•lack of efficacy compared to sugar pills
•dependency and withdrawal risks
•increased risk of violent and suicidal behavior 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jofortruth April 05, 2013, 05:43:50 PM
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x222/jo56_photos/9468ca8958f68d1d04bc35d0cfb61fa4.jpg)

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x222/jo56_photos/d5ee6c38be780913ee194ea8b1abdaa5.jpg)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: jofortruth April 05, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
Index to SSRI Stories:
http://www.ssristories.com/index.php


THE DRUG ISSUE MUST BE ADDRESSED IN ALL OF THESE SHOOTINGS. IT IS AN OBVIOUS COVERUP THAT HAS BEEN REPEATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH EACH SHOOTING! THESE DRUGGED UP KIDS ARE BEING USED AND ABUSED FOR AN AGENDA OF DISARMAMENT, ETC. THAT IS BOTH UNACCEPTABLE AND AN OUTRAGE!
::)
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: chris jones April 05, 2013, 08:36:21 PM
 37,000,000 folks are on this juice, high numbers big Pharma loves it, FDA,AMA, Elite approved.
                           
Jo, I beleive these elitist  shiitbags are convinced Americans have become weak, spoiled, Moronic mungs. Whatsoever they spin is absorbed and believed by John Q. public. Their MSM rages on, under controll and bending the minds of the masses, all according to their goal. Questioning is immediately jumped on as "conspiracy theorists are at it again", tin hats making noise.
             Banning football would create a revolution, invading a innocent nation doesn't get much attention.
  The NWO have us on file, DAARPA etc, no big deal,, just low level flags. Jo,, they have profiled the masses , generality's , categorized.
       I visited the consular a few years ago when in South America, they know more about me than I do.
         
My point, 37 million cits are on this mind mucking drug, the chances are they are logged/filed, immediately.        Only a oppinion>

: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue May 22, 2013, 09:59:47 PM
They still don't say where he got the money...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/aurora-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-warrants
Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes bought bullets from BulkAmmo.com
Unsealed search warrants show suspect in shooting that killed 12 used iPhone to take pictures of movie-theater door

Wednesday 22 May 2013
...

James Holmes received six shipments of ammunition from an online retailer, carried a platinum MasterCard and photographed the door to the movie theater where he allegedly killed 12 people and injured 70, according to court records released Wednesday.

The information comes from search warrants unsealed at the direction of the judge overseeing the case against Holmes, who could be executed if convicted of the 20 July 2012 shooting in Aurora, Colorado.

The warrants show that in the hours after the attack, investigators wanted to search Holmes' bank records and an iPod Touch. They found that Holmes had received ammunition from the website BulkAmmo.com at his apartment in Aurora. Authorities wanted to determine whether he had received other material at the nearby University of Colorado, Denver, where he had been a neuroscience graduate student, or at his parents' home near San Diego. Detectives also wrote that on 9 July, Holmes downloaded a US Postal Service form to track shipments. That was around the time Holmes shipped a notebook and burnt $20 bills to his former psychiatrist at the university. That package was not found until after the shooting. The notebook's contents have not yet been disclosed.

The documents released on Wednesday did not show what investigators found. They did say that Holmes carried an iPhone that contained pictures of the theater where the massacre occurred. Included in those pictures were images of the door jamb at the theater. Prosecutors have said Holmes entered the theater that night apparently unarmed, slipped out the external exit door then returned with his weapons and body armor.

Holmes is attempting to plead not guilty by reason of insanity. He is due to appear in court on Thursday, for a routine hearing.
...

Wednesday's release is an addition to a wider April disclosure of documents that were sealed in the days after the shooting. Media organizations successfully sued to unseal those search warrants and affidavits. But a handful of records were omitted from the April disclosure and were released instead on Wednesday.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue June 04, 2013, 01:09:13 PM
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/james-holmes-could-enter-insanity-plea-tuesday
Judge accepts insanity plea in Colo. shooting case
By DAN ELLIOTT
— Jun. 4 12:15 PM EDT

FILE - In this March 12, 2013 file photo, James Holmes, left, and defense attorney Tamara Brady appear in district court in Centennial, Colo. for his arraignment. Holmes, the suspect in the Colorado theater massacre, could enter his long-expected insanity plea at a hearing Tuesday June 4, 2013, though the case could also veer off on another tangent as his lawyers seek the strongest possible defense. (AP Photo/The Denver Post, RJ Sangosti, Pool, File)

CENTENNIAL, Colo. (AP) — A judge on Tuesday accepted James Holmes' plea of not guilty by reason of insanity, setting the stage for a lengthy mental evaluation of the Colorado theater shooting suspect.

The court clerk placed a written advisory of the ground rules of the plea before Holmes so he could examine it as Judge Carlos Samour Jr. read through all 18 points.

When Samour asked if he had any questions, Holmes replied no. Samour then accepted the plea.

"I find Mr. Holmes understands the effects and consequences of the not guilty by reason of insanity plea," the judge said. "He was looking at the advisement and appeared to be following along."
...
Prosecutors say Holmes spent months buying weapons, ammunition and materials for explosives and scouted the theater in advance. He donned police-style body armor, tossed a gas canister into the seats and opened fire, they say.

The insanity plea is widely seen as Holmes' best chance of avoiding execution, and possibly his only chance, given the weight of the evidence against him.
...
If jurors find Holmes not guilty by reason of insanity, he would be committed indefinitely to the state mental hospital. He could eventually be released if doctors find his sanity has been restored, but that is considered unlikely.

If jurors convict him, the next step is the penalty phase, during which both sides call witnesses to testify about factors that could affect why Holmes should or shouldn't be executed.
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: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue August 03, 2013, 01:13:56 PM
reboot gun control ...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/20/aurora-day-remembrance-cinema-shooting
Aurora holds Day of Remembrance for victims of cinema shooting
One year on from shooting in which 12 died and 70 were injured, mayor pays tribute to 'resilience' of Colorado city
Associated Press in Colorado   
theguardian.com, Saturday 20 July 2013 14.48 EDT

...
   
On 20 July 2012, a gunman opened fire early into a packed midnight screening of the Batman film The Dark Knight Rises. The shooting lasted less than two minutes but left deep wounds that still ache in Colorado's third-largest city, which spreads out across the rolling plains on Denver's eastern side. Twelve people died, including a six-year-old girl, and 70 were hurt, some of them paralyzed. Countless others bear the invisible wounds of emotional trauma.

James Holmes, a once promising neuroscientist, is accused of carrying out the shooting. Police say he had a rifle with a high-capacity magazine, able to fire 100 bullets. He has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity; his lawyers say he carried out the shootings "in the throes of a psychotic episode".

Parents, siblings and survivors attended a morning ceremony of prayer, song and remembrance outside Aurora's City Hall. Several hundred people, including police and fire personnel and members of Colorado's congressional delegation, bowed their heads as the names of the dead were read. A small bell tolled after each. The Hinkley High School choir sang Amazing Grace.

"One year ago, the peace of our community was shattered," said the Aurora mayor, Steve Hogan. "We are still seeking justice. It is important for us to remember that one senseless act does not, cannot and will not define us as a community. This is a story of resilience, not just of Aurora but of humankind.

The Colorado governor, John Hickenlooper, told the crowd that many people still struggle with unanswered questions. "I know I do," he said.
...
On Friday and into early Saturday, Fields and other volunteers read the names of the more than 2,500 people who have been killed in gun-related violence in the US since the Newtown, Connecticut, school shooting in December. The last volunteer to read names was Stephen Barton, who was wounded in the theater shooting. Immediately after Barton was finished, about 40 volunteers held a moment of silence at 12.38am, the time the shooting began one year earlier. The silence lasted for 82 seconds, to represent the 12 people killed and the 70 who were wounded.
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: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue September 11, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/gun-lobby-democrats-colorado-connecticut
Gun lobby campaign ousts Democrats in Colorado
National Rifle Association attacks 'anti-gun billionaires' and hails election results as warning to lawmakers considering gun reform

Associated Press in Denver
theguardian.com, Wednesday 11 September 2013 03.56 EDT


Two Democratic state lawmakers who backed tighter gun laws in the aftermath of mass shootings in Colorado and Connecticut have been voted out of office in a recall election promoted by both grassroots activists and an influential gun-rights lobbying group.

Colorado Senate president John Morse lost by just 343 votes on Tuesday in a swing district in the Republican stronghold of Colorado Springs while fellow state senator Angela Giron lost by a bigger margin in a largely blue-collar district that usually favours Democrats.

The National Rifle Association said the election sent a clear message to lawmakers that they should protect gun rights and be accountable to their constituents, not to "anti-gun billionaires" – a swipe at the New York mayor, Michael Bloomberg, who supported Giron and Morse.

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: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: JohnBFTOR September 11, 2013, 10:26:24 PM
Proud to be a Coloradian today!

Now we just need to go after the FF perpetrators.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue September 16, 2013, 12:02:09 PM
http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24072843/unfazed-by-colorado-recalls-california-lawmakers-press-gun
Unfazed by Colorado recalls, California lawmakers press on with gun-control bills
By Josh Richman and Mike Rosenberg
Staff Writers
Posted:   09/11/2013 04:09:34 PM PDT

SACRAMENTO -- A day after furious Coloradans recalled two state senators who voted for new gun laws, California lawmakers pressed ahead with their own agenda Wednesday aimed at giving the Golden State the strictest gun control in the country.

Colorado's recall elections and California's rush to pass gun bills in the final week of its legislative session quickly reignited the national debate over balancing public safety with constitutional rights.

The Colorado votes sent a Rocky Mountain chill down the spines of lawmakers in other battleground states, but those in bright blue California seemed unfazed.

"I don't see anybody switching teams here," said Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, chairman of the Assembly Public Safety Committee.

Assemblywoman Shannon Grove, R-Bakersfield, seemed resigned to the Democratic-controlled Legislature passing a slew of new gun laws, but held out hope that Gov. Jerry Brown will shoot many of them down with his veto pen. "I just pray to God that Jerry Brown is the savior of the Second Amendment in this state," she said.

Among the most controversial bills, Senate Bill374 by state Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento -- which would ban all semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines -- passed the Assembly on a 44-31 vote late Tuesday. Then the Assembly voted 41-34 on Wednesday to approve SB567 by state Sen. Hannah Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, which would expand the definition of an illegal shotgun.

Both now await a vote on amendments from the state Senate, which has already passed the bills, before going to Brown's desk.

The Assembly also voted 43-30 Wednesday to agree to Senate amendments to AB48 by Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, which would ban conversion kits used to turn legal ammunition magazines into illegal high-capacity magazines.

The only gun-control bill that ran into trouble was SB396 by state Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley. It would ban possession of all high-capacity ammunition magazines, even those that had been grandfathered in under the 1999 update to California's assault-weapons law. Four votes in, the Assembly fell short, but Hancock and Assemblyman Anthony Rendon, D-South Gate, may call for another vote Thursday.

The Assembly also Wednesday voted 41-27 to pass SB55 by state Sen. Lois Wolk, D-Vacaville, which would expand the list of convicts who can't legally own guns to include those with multiple drug or alcohol convictions, active participants in street gangs and others. The state Senate needs to approve Assembly amendments before the bill goes to Brown's desk

Assemblywoman Susan Bonilla, D-Concord, rhetorically asked how many times gun-rights advocates have insisted that it's not guns that kill people, but other people. "You just can't have it both ways -- this bill goes to the heart of the matter," she said.

Already on the governor's desk are measures that would expand the state's safety-certificate requirement from handguns to long guns as well; crack down on "straw purchasers" who buy guns on behalf of those legally prohibited from doing so; tighten exemptions to the law prohibiting the purchase of handguns not tested and deemed safe by the state; and ban use of lead ammunition in hunting. Brown has until Oct. 13 to sign or veto this year's bills.

Bill Whalen, a Hoover Institution research fellow and longtime GOP media consultant and speechwriter, said that unlike the purple nature of many pockets in Colorado, most California districts are either deeply blue -- like in the Bay Area -- or very red. That means most Democrats don't have to worry about a Republican taking their job just for supporting gun-control measures.

"Show me a Democrat that is coming from hunting territory," he said. "You don't have too many members caught in the crossfire."

And because Democrats so strongly dominate the Legislature, they can afford to allow peers from the few "swing" districts to vote against the gun measures if they think it will protect their jobs, Whalen said.
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: Public, media barred from hearing on James Holmes’ sanity
: One Revelator December 22, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
COMMENT: Still hasn’t gone to trial? Secret pretrial? Truth serum? This reminds me of the Amy Bishop case. Seventeen months after the fact and counting…..

Public, media barred from hearing on James Holmes’ sanity

By Associated Press Dec. 20, 2013

(DENVER) — The public and the news media will be barred from a pretrial hearing in the Colorado theater shooting case that will include testimony from a psychiatrist who evaluated whether defendant James Holmes was insane, the judge ruled Friday.

Arapahoe County District Judge Carlos A. Samour Jr. said testimony from the psychiatrist and other witnesses would “infect a large portion of the jury pool with factual information” about Holmes’ sanity and make it impossible for him to get a fair trial.

The order also bars victims of the July 2012 attack from the hearing, scheduled to start Jan. 27.

Holmes pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to charges of killing 12 people and injuring 70 others. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

His lawyers acknowledge he was the shooter but argue he was in the grips of a psychotic episode.

Holmes underwent a mandatory sanity evaluation at the Colorado Mental Health Institute at Pueblo last summer. The results have not been made public, but prosecutors asked the judge to allow other doctors selected by the prosecution to examine Holmes.

That request will be argued at the January hearing.

The prosecution’s motion seeking the new examination hasn’t been made public. But in his ruling, Samour revealed that prosecutors claim the state hospital examination was faulty and the psychiatrist who conducted it, Dr. Jeffrey Metzner, “had an unfair bias.”

No phone listing could be found for Metzner. Liz McDonough, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Human Services, which oversees the hospital, said she could not comment.

Samour also revealed the specific areas in which prosecutors want their own experts to examine Holmes: whether he was insane at the time of the shooting, and whether he had a mental disease or defect that the defense could use to argue against the death penalty.

Samour said he was disclosing the details of the prosecution request because openness is important in the court system and because Colorado law grants victims the right to attend trials and critical hearings.

Samour’s 40-page ruling said the upcoming hearing “is one of those rare situations in which closure of a pretrial hearing is not only justified, but required” because of the potential damage to Holmes’ right to a fair trial.

More than seven pages of the ruling were redacted.


Metzger’s conclusions about Holmes’ sanity will be crucial evidence in Holmes’ trial, but it will be up to the jurors to determine whether he was insane.

Colorado law defines insanity as the inability to tell right from wrong.

If jurors decide Holmes was insane, he would be committed indefinitely to the state mental hospital. If they decide he was sane and convict him of first-degree murder, he could receive the death penalty or life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Prosecutors asked Samour to allow victims to attend the hearing even if the general public is excluded. Samour said if victims were allowed to attend, details of the testimony would inevitably wind up in the media.

News organizations including The Associated Press argued against closing the hearing. Steven Zansberg, an attorney representing the media companies, said he hadn’t read the ruling and couldn’t comment.

Holmes’ trial was scheduled to start in February, but it was postponed while the two sides argue whether prosecution experts can examine Holmes. No new date has been set.

http://nation.time.com/2013/12/20/public-media-barred-from-hearing-on-james-holmes-sanity/
: Aurora Shooting and MK-Ultra
: One Revelator May 06, 2014, 10:45:21 AM
NOTE: Two years later and still no trial.

Aurora Shooting and MK-Ultra

Submitted by David Livingstone on Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:51

A science presentation by James Holmes in 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEPAip5vT4Q

Consider how all this ties together: Stewart Brand is a board member of the Long Now Foundation, along with David Eagleman, who worked with James Eagan Holmes, the infamous orange-haired Colorado shooter. Brand was a key agent of MK-Ultra, who offset concerns that the Cybernetics Group’s plan of developing the “personal computer” was aimed at creating Big Brother, by marketing it as a tool to empower the masses. Eagleman, for his part, is now carrying on the legacy, having recently written Why The Net Matters: How the Internet Will Save Civilization, which Brand referred to as a "breakthrough work."

But, contrary to media depictions of him, Holmes was an extremely brilliant young man, before something went horribly wrong, after he became interested in study neuroscience, a field too closely associated with the sinister aspects of the hidden powers-that-be.

A video can be found on YouTube where Holmes summarizes the work he did at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla, Calif., where he attended the eight-week summer camp when he was eighteen. Holmes happened to have focused on the study of Reversal of Temporal Order Judgment, a subject which Eagleman happens to specialize in.

Who is David Eagleman? He is a neuroscientist and writer at Baylor College of Medicine. He is a Guggenheim Fellow, a council member in the World Economic Forum, and a New York Times bestselling author published in 27 languages. Eagleman has written for The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Discover, Slate, The Atlantic, Wired, and been profiled on television programs as The Colbert Report and on the scientific program Nova Science Now. Stewart Brand wrote that “David Eagleman may be the best combination of scientist and fiction-writer alive.”[1]

But Eagleman is also a liar.

Eagleman is particularly interested in people’s subjective interpretations of reality. For example, numerous experimental findings suggest that people’s perception of time can be manipulated by repeated exposure to non-simultaneous stimuli. In an experiment conducted by Eagleman, a temporal order judgment reversal was induced in subjects by exposing them to delayed motor consequences. Eagleman writes that his long-range goal is “to understand how neural signals processed by different brain regions come together for a temporally unified picture of the world.”[2]

Curiously, however, when USA Today reported, “Neuroscientists debunk idea Colorado suspect was supersmart,” the authority they referred to was David Eagleman. Eagleman lied that Holmes' credentials were no better than those of an average student.[3] Of Holmes, he said, “He was just a second-year grad student… He didn't know anything.”

But, according to University of California, Riverside (UCR) recommendation letters submitted to the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign (UIUC), Holmes graduated in the top 1% of his class with a 3.949 GPA. The UCR letters also described Holmes as “a very effective group leader’’ and a person who “takes an active role in his education, and brings a great amount of intellectual and emotional maturity into the classroom.”[4] “James received excellent evaluations from the professors and graduate students with whom he worked and was mentored.”[5]

The names of those who wrote the references letters, however, were blacked out.[6]

But somehow Eagleman suggested that at Salk Holmes had a reputation as a “dolt.”

Likewise, John Jacobson, a former researcher at Salk whom Holmes listed as his mentor during the camp, told the Los Angeles Times that the teenager was a “mediocre” student who was stubborn and did not listen to direction. Jacobson told the newspaper Holmes “should not have gotten into the summer program. His grades were mediocre. I’ve heard him described as brilliant. This is extremely inaccurate.”

Eagleman and Jacobson obviously had something to hide. What was it?

In June 2011, Holmes enrolled as a PhD student in neuroscience at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora.[7] He received a $21,600 grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH, a biomedical research facility primarily located in Bethesda, Maryland. An agency of the United States Department of Health and Human Services, NIH is the primary agency of the United States government responsible for biomedical and health-related research.

Holmes also received a $5,000 stipend from the University of Colorado, Denver.[8] The letter accepting Holmes into the program read, “Your personal and professional qualities are truly outstanding,” and “you will be an excellent match for our program.”[9] At least two researchers were vying for Holmes to join their laboratories, and the school offered him a stipend $22,600 per year and free tuition. Though Holmes received a letter of acceptance to UIUC, where he was offered the $22,600 stipend and free tuition, he declined their offer without specifying a reason.[10]

University of Colorado officials have declined to release Holmes' records, citing a Colorado judge's gag order that does not apply to other states.[11]

Holmes' defense attorneys claimed in a motion he was a “psychiatric patient” of the medical director of Anschutz's Student Mental Health Services prior to the Aurora shooting; however, the prosecution disagrees with that claim. Four days after the release of the defense attorney's motion, the judge required this information to be blacked out. CBS News later reported that Holmes met with at least three mental health professionals at the University of Colorado prior to the massacre.

Obviously, like most MK-Ultra Manchurian candidates, including Sirhan Sirhan, John Hinckley Jr. and the Unabomber, the media did a skillful job of painting the tragic incident in Aurora as an inexplicable occurrence perpetrated by a deranged individual.
 


 
[1] Introduction to Eagleman lecture at the Long Now Foundation, April 1, 2010.

[2] Eagleman Lab website, retrieved on 2009-02-08

[3]  Marisol Bello and Dan Vergano, Updated 7/25/2012 [http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-24/john-holmes-smart-academics/56467518/1]

[4] "Man accused in Colo. shooting was accepted to UIUC". 5 NBC Chicago. August 10, 2012. Retrieved August 11, 2012.

[5] Ibid.

[6] Ibid.

[7] "Shooting Suspect Was Graduate Student At Colorado Medical School". WLEX-TV. 20 July 2012.

[8] "James Holmes received thousands from grad-school grants ahead of deadly Aurora shooting". CBS This Morning  (CBS News). Retrieved July 25, 2012.;  "University: CO shooting suspect had federal grant". The Seattle Times. Associated Press. July 21, 2012. Retrieved July 22, 2012.

[9] "Man accused in Colo. shooting was accepted to UIUC".

[10] Ibid.

[11] Ibid.

http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/blog/aurora-shooting-and-mk-ultra
: Re: Aurora Shooting and MK-Ultra
: JohnBFTOR May 06, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
NOTE: Two years later and still no trial.

This operation was botched so badly that the globlalists have memory holed it.

Not only did witnesses SEE multiple shooters two teen aged girls got shot OUTSIDE the back of the adjacent theater WHILE THE MAIN SHOOTING WAS IN PROGRESS.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Seeing May 07, 2014, 05:10:35 AM
smh
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: EvadingGrid May 07, 2014, 05:57:55 AM
smh

Acronym for 'shake my head'
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: chris jones May 07, 2014, 11:53:07 AM
 They mucked up this op.
 I feel sorry for the dupe, still wondering what method, dope, brain dipping, they used on him.
 The orange hair  kinda stands out in the crowd, the BOZO the clown  thing.. Their- CIA humor.
 
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Seeing May 08, 2014, 03:41:14 AM
They mucked up this op.
 I feel sorry for the dupe, still wondering what method, dope, brain dipping, they used on him.
 The orange hair  kinda stands out in the crowd, the BOZO the clown  thing.. Their- CIA humor.
 

I feel sorry for him too. He got picked. Just like Adam Lanza and Lee Oswald. Timothy McVeigh same deal, though probably Timothy was a bit more involved. If you have ever seen "Arlington Road" it illustrates how easy it would be to frame a patsy.
: Re: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: TahoeBlue February 05, 2015, 02:43:44 PM
Missed this bit - Rise of ISIS .... Holmes working his ticket ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2296440/Dark-Knight-killer-James-Holmes-Muslim-prays-times-day.html#ixzz3Qt0jT6IJ
Dark Knight killer James Holmes 'is now a Muslim who prays five times a day'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Published: 12:43 EST, 20 March 2013 | Updated: 12:46 EST, 20 March 2013
 
James Holmes, the gunman behind the Dark Knight massacre in Colorado last July, has reportedly turned Muslim and prays five times a day.

The killer showed off a lengthy, thick beard during a court appearance earlier this month, and a prison source has claimed it is a symbol of his new-found faith.

The source said Holmes has turned to Islam as a way of justifying his horrific murder spree in an Aurora, Colorado cinema on July 20 which left 12 people dead and 58 people wounded
...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2296440/Dark-Knight-killer-James-Holmes-Muslim-prays-times-day.html#ixzz3QtxJq4t2
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: Re: SHOOTING: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere
: Letsbereal July 23, 2015, 10:48:35 PM
SHOOTINGS - False Flag 2015 a pattern suddenly emerges.

SHOOTING: Another Theater shooting, sketchy details, Lafayette, Louisiana

SHOOTING: Chattanooga shooting at Navy recruitment center

SHOOTING in Charleston, S.C.-Black Church-at least 9 people Dead-White Suspect

SHOOTING: Mass shooting, bombs, tear gas, at Batman premiere

SHOOTING: Boston Marathon - Crisis Actors - Fake Injuries

SHOOTING: Newtown Connecticut Elementary School --- Staged -- [Sandy Hook]
: James Holmes' Sister: 'His Eyes Were Bulging'
: Letsbereal July 28, 2015, 10:37:56 AM
James Holmes' Sister: 'His Eyes Were Bulging' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsAWG4u-3YU

Jul 27, 2015 Associated Press

The sister of Colorado theater gunman James Homes testified in the penalty phase of his trial in Centennial, Colorado on Monday.

Chris Eagan Holmes said her brother was kind growing up, and that his demeanor changed in jail.
: Re: NWO knows Americans are so dumb they put minimal effort in lying
: Effie Trinket September 10, 2015, 07:50:06 PM
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2952396/pg1

Read that thread and all of the comments ^

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3229163/Gunpowder-fuse-jars-bullets-Inside-booby-trapped-apartment-Aurora-shooter-James-Holmes.html