The 9-11 Passenger List Oddity

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Vincent Sammartino
The 9-11 Passenger List Oddity
Tue Mar 8, 2005 16:23
64.140.158.85

The 9-11 Passenger List Oddity
by Vincent Sammartino
http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/911passengerlist.html 

As everyone who is involved in exposing the 9-11 cover-up knows, nothing concerning 9-11 is as it seems. Whether it's the magic jet that our government told us crashed into the Pentagon, the obvious missing jet at Shanksville (Flight 93), the three perfect demolitions of the World Trade Center towers, or the fact that Arab hijackers are still alive and their supposed ring leader Osama bin Laden has the ability to change his facial features at will. Nothing, I repeat, nothing about the government/controlled media version of 9-11 makes any sense.

So, let's get one thing straight and out of the way right now. There are no such things as physical inconsistencies in the world we live in. We can always depend on the laws of physics to be consistent and unchanging. Coincidence is a self-contained human concept; and the real world - the atoms, molecules and planets that whiz around - don't care if you understand them. Likewise, they aren't concerned if their movement happens to favor you or not. I say this because, as Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani know (WING TV), this is the key to understanding what is real and what is contrived.

With that said, let me go back to sometime in February, 2004. At that time I had pretty much figured out that what had happened at the Pentagon and the WTC was a lie. I was still toying with the idea, though, that maybe (just maybe) our government had shot down Flight 93 in Shanksville in order to protect us from the real terrorists.

Then a few websites started to pop-up showing videos of what appeared to be a "pod" under Flight 175, along with an unexplained flash that happened just before the jet hit the South Tower. To me, this was just as damning as the Pentagon and the WTC collapses. There is no good reason for us to be seeing what we saw if the official government story was true. Think about this point for a minute. If what we saw was just an anomaly, then there must be millions of photos/videos of 757s taking off and landing at airports all over the world that look JUST LIKE THAT! If anybody has any jet photo anomalies they would like to share with us, please send them to Victor and Lisa at WING TV so we can clear this stuff up.

Which brings me to Ellen Mariani: she’s the woman who lost her husband Louis on Flight 175 that crashed into the South Tower on 9-11. With the help of a lawyer named Phil Berg, she filed a lawsuit against President Bush and company under the RICO act. Also, she refused to take the hush money that was offered to her under the 9-11 Victims Compensation fund.

In addition, I had just discovered Black Op Radio earlier in the year and found an interesting show in their archives (# 156) on which Ellen and Mr. Berg appeared as guests. This may be the single biggest point concerning 9-11, and hopefully the last nail in the coffin of our government's lies. During this broadcast, Mrs. Mariani said that she was the only relative of all the passengers that died on Flight 175 that crashed into the South Tower. Her lawyer, Phil Berg, repeated this statement.

I listened to this show over and over again and couldn't believe what she had just said. Everything came together at this point. That’s when it dawned on me that not only had our government lied about the physics of 9-11; they may very well have taken it one step farther by faking the number of people that died that day. I believed what she and Mr. Berg had just said. Nothing about 9-11 made any sense. Why should it start now?

Not knowing then what I know now, Ellen and Phil believed that for some reason the government was holding back the names of the people that had died on Flight 175. She had tried to get in touch with the relatives of other family members, but to no avail. You see, she and her lawyer believed, just like most other people believe, that four jets had been hijacked by Arab terrorists and crashed into buildings and into the ground at Shanksville. I, on the other hand, had already swept those lies aside.

Their statement also gave credence to the Fox News reporter who said that the jet which crashed into the South Tower had no windows. Hey, this jet appeared to have a "pod" under it anyway. The pieces of the puzzle were starting to fit.

Now, we come to most interesting stuff - the Social Security Death Index, and thanks to Victor Thorn's idea, the September 11th Victim’s Compensation Fund. After all, it's one thing to say that the flight lists are not on the up and up, but it's another thing to prove it.

The Social Security Death Index (SSDI) (Social Security Death Index) is a privately-owned website that is not affiliated with Social Security. It boasts an accuracy rate of about 83% (e-mail them any questions you may have). Anyway, to check its reliability, I inputted the names of people I knew that had died in my family, along with friends and neighbors. Being a true skeptic, I had no way of knowing whether they were telling the truth or not. With the exception of a cousin, I found everyone I was looking for. (Be sure you have the person's true first name - they may not be listed by the state they last lived in, but can be found in the state where their social security number was issued.) By all means try it yourself.

Which brings us to the 9-11 Victims Compensation Fund (also known as the Shut Up and Take the Money Fund), which most of you have heard about.

9-11 Victims Compensation Fund

This is where our government opened up the Treasury and gave family members of those who lost their lives that day lots of money. In return, these families were basically told to shut up about anything else concerning 9-11. (Considering all the lies surrounding this horrific event, you can see why.)

At this point there is one thing we should never forget, and that is how powerful the notion of human greed is. Remember this concept as you read the number of victims whose family members sought compensation.

The names of the victims can be found on the CNN website.

Here are the results:

Flight 11: of the 92 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 20 are listed in the SSDI (22%)

Of these 20 people, only three are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:

Judy Larocque
Laurie Neira
Candace Lee Williams

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Flight 77: of the 64 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 14 are listed in the SSDI (22%)

Of these 64 people, only five on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:

William Caswell
Eddie Dillard
Ian Gray
John Sammartino
Leonard Taylor

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Flight 175: of the 65 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 18 are listed in the SSDI (28%)

Of these 65 people, only three are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:

Michael C. Tarrou
Gloria Debarrera
Timothy Ward

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Flight 93: of the 45 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 6 are listed in the SSDI (13%)

Of these 45 people, none are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:

No one

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Have you noticed anything strange yet? Of the passengers and crew of Flight 11, 77, 175 & 93, only 22%, 22%, 28%, 13% respectively are in the SSDI.

Remember human greed? Of the 266 people that we were told died on these jets, only 11 relatives applied for compensation. Can you believe that not a single relative from Flight 93 applied for compensation? I can't. Were all the relatives of the victims so rich that they weren't eligible to receive compensation? No, that's not it. (The minimum federal award was $250,000, and the average pay-out was about $1.8 million. The recipients only had to make agreement: they couldn’t sue the airlines.)

You should also know that most lawyers told their clients to take the money and run (which is what most lawyers would do - take the sure money). Ellen Mariani clearly elaborated on this point during her appearance on the radio show mentioned above.

Finally, during the past week, thanks to Lisa Guliani's insatiable quest for the truth, the 9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report has come to light.

9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report

Oddly, but consistent with everything concerning 9-11, the actual complete list of the people who benefited has been omitted from this report. Even without this, it does contain an interesting fact. According to the report, 98% of all the people who suffered a loss on 9-11 took the fund money. The average payment was $1.8 million.

But here's where it gets strange. According to the government, here are the number of people who accepted the compensation fund:

Out of a total of 92 people on Flight 11, only 65 accepted the 9-11 fund (71%)
Out of a total of 65 people on Flight 175, only 46 accepted the 9-11 fund (71%)
Out of a total of 64 people on Flight 77, only 33 accepted the 9-11 fund (52%)
Out of a total of 45 people on Flight 93, only 25 accepted the 9-11 fund (56%)

Does any of this seem a little odd to you? Or is it possible that not only were the jets on 9-11 magical, but their passengers as well?

So there you have it; yet another glaring 9-11 inconsistency - just maybe the biggest of them all?

Skeptically yours,
Vincent Sammartino
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WING TV: 9-11 On Trial Opening Statement by Lisa Guliani
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[bigron]

whenever there is aan airline disaster normaly families of lost kin
unite and arrange relidious services all together on anniversary of accidents.
amny if these with media coverage......

I have noticed and found weird that the MSM has never showed any kind of demonstarion on aniversary of 911 related to families of passengers of the four airplanes involved in 911

many events for 911 have taken place in very many places but I have not seen any envolving passenger families........

[New Whirled Order]

That's some unbelievably damning evidence, but if you show it to a neocon, they'll stop reading and start laughing as soon as they get to the part about the "pod" theory.  This is just my personal opinion, but I wish the author had omitted that angle from the article because the crux of the information provided is explosive enough on its own.     

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You know I thought about that, but think about this, the story was written in 2005.  Since then the "pod" issue is the only one to be rebutted (and pretty poorly at that).  In any case, the point of the matter is that in over 2 years this story remains the official story of the missing social security numbers and claims filed.  I mean over 2 years and they have never bothered to give an explanation:

Only 15% of the 9/11 passengers are in the social security death roll.  And the planes were only 20% filled to begin with when the average is over 80%.  And on top of this only 11 families of the plane passengers and crew ever made a financial claim when over 90% of the "land-based" victims did.  Those are some pretty significant figures even if the article said bigfoot whispered this information to him on a hill in Peru as he was surrounded by elite reptilians.

[New Whirled Order]

You know I thought about that, but think about this, the story was written in 2005.  Since then the "pod" issue is the only one to be rebutted (and pretty poorly at that).  In any case, the point of the matter is that in over 2 years this story remains the official story of the missing social security numbers and claims filed.  I mean over 2 years and they have never bothered to give an explanation:

Only 15% of the 9/11 passengers are in the social security death roll.  And the planes were only 20% filled to begin with when the average is over 80%.  And on top of this only 11 families of the plane passengers and crew ever made a financial claim when over 90% of the "land-based" victims did.  Those are some pretty significant figures even if the article said bigfoot whispered this information to him on a hill in Peru as he was surrounded by elite reptilians.

I agree with you Sane.  It seems that the overwhelming amount of evidence just never ends if one is actually willing to investigate it for themselves with an open mind.   

***Off-topic Alert***

Sorry to stray off-topic here, but it's tough convincing people on some of these neocon infested message boards to even look at all of the evidence, let alone regard it as credible, once it has been presented to them.  On a slightly more positive note, I believe that myself and a select few others are slowly beginning to have an effect on some members of a political forum that we belong to.  Sure, the hard-core neocons point at us, laugh, mock, you name it, but a few in the middle or slightly left-leaning are beginning to at least raise an eyebrow over some of this stuff.  That's a start.  It's certainly better than nothing, but the battle is still a tough one.  We're always looking for more ammo to wear them down with.               

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They are starting to look at it as they see the dollar devalued, the markets crashing, the second amendment being repealed, the numerous amnesty bills, the Clinton New Deal agenda and the BS discovery of hoax archeological finds to disprove Christianity and Judaism.

Yeah, they will be all ears then.

As far as a new video that shows how they used so many disconnects to get us off track from investigating 9/11, watch this new documentary:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=6497.0

As far as the pictures that finally got me to drop the insanity of trying to prove every single detail, here is the big picture [pun intended]:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=6394.0

[limeygeeza]

That wad of info is amazing, but what I would like to know ,has anyone taken the complete list of victims, who were on these planes, and traced where they lived, worked, went to school, etc, etc? Surely with some  investigative work like this then the truth about the passenger lists of those flights would be beyond doubt, whether we'd like the conclusions or not. I just feel that until the time is taken to do this it suits the govt as everything is still unproven and in the minds of the majority of the public, it seems much more comfortable to believe the 'official' explanations for 9/11.

[limeygeeza]

Hi I'm limeygeeza's other half and I would just like to say that some of these findings are amazing and of course we all know that there is something highly suspicious going on here, but what I want to know is of those that were on the flights mentioned, we know of course how easy it would be for them to be created as individuals and added to any database but has anyone gone that bit further and followed up each address of everyone that has died, finding out if firstly the addresses actually exist, followed up by actually knocking and finding out if you like whether those people really lived there or were known to have lived there, because there isn't very many on all flights that supposedly died, this would not be as difficult or time consuming as some people might think.  Would be interesting though aye Does anyone know ?    Eve

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From 911 Encyclopedia:

None of the official hijackers of the Sep11th-attack appeared on the original manifest of the passenger list. Sources: cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html
cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua175.victims.html
cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua93.victims.html

Original manifests mirrored at:
lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/aa11.htm
lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/aa77.htm
lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/ua175.htm
lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/ua93.htm

Here is the official info about these "hijackers". Many of the real identities are still alive. The FBI ignored these facts during 2001-2002 and never updated their suspect list.

"Official Pilots":

1) Waleed Alshehri, AA11, North Tower WTC. Name not on passenger list. Believed to be a pilot, though first reports said, his brother might have been a pilot, too. CNN reported (-> Hijackers, alive) on him: Possible confused identity with the son of a Saudi Arabian diplomat

Father Mohammad Alsheri said in a "20-20"- interview, Waleed had no flying experience. Then he left for the first time in his live his town for a trip to Medina. His father said, he had a strong sense of humour, was live loving, in contact with his father and called him in January 2001, 8 months before 911, he would be "on his way home". He never called back. His father never got an official visit by the FBI and learned from his son's death from the news and local newspapers. Saudi Authrities told him, that they had no hard evidence, that his son was involved in the hijack.

2) Mohammad Atta, AA 11, North Tower WTC Name not on passenger list. Believed to be the pilot of that plane. Instead of thinking about committing suicide only, he officially applied for a student visa, together with Marwan Al-Shehhi. These visas arrived after a "bureaucratic backlog" in March 2001 at Al-Shehhis flight school Huffmann Aviation by Rudi Dekkers. Author Daniel Hopsinker linked Huffmann Aviation to the CIA connected company For odd reasons an AP story said, "On the form, filled out by a Huffman assistant, Atta's name is spelled "Mohomed." Due to local reports Dekkers assistant who filled these visas out, Nicole Antini, was just then being sexually harassed by Rudi Dekkers, her beefy middle-aged boss, according to a lawsuit for sexual harassment which Dekker's was forced to settle recently for an undisclosed sum. In 2001, the Mossad observed various muslim students, who trained at military flight schools, including Mohammad Atta and warned the CIA twice of a possible terrorist attack. Leaked to the european press in late 2002, early 2003, it came out, that Mohammad Atta was even observed since 1998 by german intelligence, regarding his contacts (See Mamoun Darkanzali). This fits with other articles on Darkanzali, who was in contact with some spanish suspects, which telephone had been tapped. In another article it was reported, that the CIA tried to hire Darkanzali as an informant.

3) Hani Hanjour, AA77, Pentagon Name not on passenger list. Believed to be the pilot of that plane. It was said, he held a commercial pilot's license that expired in October, 1999. It was stated, that Lotfi Raissi was his flying teacher. But Raissi,who was arrested in September 2001 in United Kingdom, was plead unguilty in February 2002 and is free again. 4) Marwan Al-Shehhi, UA 175, South Tower WTC. Name not on passenger list. Believed to be the pilot of that plane. Instead of thinking about committing suicide only, he officially applied for a student visa. These visas arrived after a "bureaucratic backlog" in March 2001 at Al-Shehhis flight school Huffmann Aviation. Author Daniel Hopsicker linked Huffmann Aviation (->) to a CIA connected company

The accomplices:

5) Saeed Alghamdi, UA93, Pennsylvannia Name not on passenger list. CNN reported (-> Hijackers, alive) on him: "Identity is disputed" The real Saeed Alghamdi said to newspaper Asharq Al Awsat, he is still alive and pilot for Saudi Airlines. Saudi Airlines said once it was considering legal action against the FBI for seriously damaging its reputation and that of its pilots.

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6) Ahmad Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi, UA93, Pennsylvannia Name not on passenger list.

7) Ahmed Alnami UA93, Pennsylvannia Name not on passenger list. Father Abdullah Alnami said to "20/20" (Barbara Walters) his son left home for the first time in his life -- six months before the attacks, and believes, he is innocent. Another Abdullah Alnami said (before the photos had been released!), he is administrative supervisor with Saudi Arabian Airlines and was in Riyadh when the terrorists struck.

Ziad Samir Jarrah, UA93, Pennsylvannia Name not on passenger list. Believed to be the pilot of that plane.

9) Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad, UA 175, South Tower WTC. Name not on passenger list.

10) Wail M. Alshehri, , AA11, North Tower WTC. Name not on passenger list. CNN reported (-> Hijackers, alive) on him: Possible confused identity with the son of a Saudi Arabian diplomat Father thinks, he and his brother are innocent.

11) Satam M.A. Al Suqami, AA11, North Tower WTC Name not on passenger list.

12) Abdulaziz Alomari, AA11, North Tower WTC Name not on passenger list. CNN reported (-> Hijackers, alive) on Alomari: "Identity is in dispute" The real Abdulaziz Alomari is alive and an engineer with Saudi Telecoms and claims, his passport was once stolen in Denver. Another Abdulaziz Al Omari is pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines.

13) Khalid Almihdhar, AA77, Pentagon Name not on passenger list. CNN reported (-> Hijackers, alive) on him: "May be an assumed name; there are reports he is still alive" The real Khalid Al Midhar in fact said, he is alive.

14) Majed Moqed, AA77, Pentagon Name not on passenger list.

15) Nawaf Alhazmi,AA77, Pentagon Name not on passenger list.

16) Salem Alhazmi, AA77, Pentagon Name not on passenger list. CNN reported (-> Hijackers, alive) on him: "May be a a stolen identity"

The real Al-Hamzi is 26. In September 2001 he had just returned to work at a petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou.

17) Ahmed Alghamdi, UA 175, South Tower WTC. Name not on passenger list. CNN reported (-> Hijackers, alive) on him: "Lost his driver's license in 1995 for failing to pay a traffic fine, ...Bought plane ticket on August 29 through the Internet using a Mailboxes Etc. address"

18) Hamza Alghamdi, UA 175, South Tower WTC. Name not on passenger list.

19) Mohand Alshehri, UA 175, South Tower WTC. Name not on passenger list. CNN reported (-> Hijackers, alive) on Alsheri: "Saudi Embassy has named Alshehri as a victim of mistaken identity" It is claimed, that he communicated with other hijack plotters. He once asked to use the Internet at a public library in Delray Beach, Florida.

Sources: www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=164874
ABC, 20/20 allafrica.com/stories/200109210084.html
news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1559000/1559151.stm
www.sueddeutsche.de/index.php?url=/ausland/weltspiegel/25472/index.php
www.madcrow.com
www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/terrorvisa1.shtml
eionews.addr.com/psyops/news/passenger-list-puzzle.htm
Lists of victims

In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon near Washington, D.C., and the crash of United Airlines flight 93, officials across the country are working to piece together lists of victims.

While the official number of those missing and dead will inevitably rise over the next few weeks, authorities from American Airlines, United Airlines, the Department of Defense, the New York City Medical Examiners Office and the New York City Fire Department, have released partial lists. They are linked below.

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11 |
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77 |
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 |
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93|
PENTAGON |
WORLD TRADE CENTER
www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/main.html

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm

Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77
By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D



Now Updated: No Arabs on Flight 77: Part II -The Passengers

I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the FOIA Cover Pagefoia-10001.jpg

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planes that �crashed� on that day. FOIA Cover Pagefoia-10001.jpg

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A list of names on a piece of paper is not evidence, but an autopsy by a pathologist, is. I undertook by FOIA request, to obtain that autopsy list and you are invited to view it below. Guess what? Still no Arabs on the list. It is my opinion that the monsters who planned this crime made a mistake by not including Arabic names on the original list to make the ruse seem more believable.

When airline disasters occur, airlines will routinely provide a manifest list for anxious families. You may have noticed that even before Sep 11th, that airlines are pretty meticulous about getting an accurate headcount before takeoff. It seems very unlikely to me, that five Arabs sneaked onto a flight with weapons.
This is the list provided by American of the 56 passengers:

On September 27th, the FBI published photos of the �hijackers� of Flight 77:

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), does a miraculous job and identified nearly all the bodies on November 16th 2001.Official Autopsy List - Page 2foia-10002.jpg


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The AFIP suggest these numbers; 189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were �passengers� on the plane. The AA list only had 56 and the list just obtained has 58. They did not explain how they were able to tell �victims� bodies from �hijacker� bodies. In fact, from the beginning NO explanation has been given for the extra five suggested in news reports except that the FBI showed us the pictures to make up the difference, and that makes it so.


Now, being the trusting sort, I figured that the government would want to quickly dispel any rumors so we could get on with the chore of kicking Osama/Sadaam�s butt (weren�t these originally two different people?). It seemed simple to me. . .produce the names of all the bodies identified by the AFIP and compare it with the publicized list of passengers. So, I sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the AFIP and asked for an expedited response, because we were getting ready to send our boys to war on the pretext that Osama/Sadaam had done the deed. Fourteen months later, a few US soldiers dead, many Iraqi civilians pushing up daisies, and I finally get the list. Believe me that they weren�t a bit happy to give it up, and I really have no idea why they choose now to release it.Official Autopsy List - Page 2foia-10003.jpg

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No Arabs wound up on the morgue slab; however, three ADDITIONAL people not listed by American Airline sneaked in. I have seen no explanation for these extras. I did give American the opportunity to �revise� their original list, but they have not responded. The new names are: Robert Ploger, Zandra Ploger, and Sandra Teague. The AFIP claims that the only �passenger� body that they were not able to identify is the toddler, Dana Falkenberg, whose parents and young sister are on the list of those identified. The satanic masterminds behind this caper may be feeling pretty smug about the perfect crime, but they have left a raft of clues tying these unfortunates together. Stay tuned for part two to take a much closer look of the cast of characters on this ill-fated flight.

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LP: UPDATE: Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77; Part II The Passengers ... On September 11, the flight carried 58 passengers.52 ... Do you know if a full passenger list is available which can provide us with the names of the 6 ...
www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ readart.cgi?ArtNum=88190&Disp=All



The Justice Department has never explained how it established the list of the kamikazes. The airline companies have furnished the exact number of passengers in each plane, and the passenger lists, incomplete, do not mention the persons who boarded at the last minute. In checking the these lists, one notices that names of the kamikazes are not on them and that only three passengers are not identified for flight 11 and only two for flight 93. It is thus impossible that 19 kamikazes boarded. Further, several of those listed as kamikazes have turned up, alive. The FBI nonetheless maintains that the hijackers have all been definitively identified and that complementary information such as birth dates makes it improbable that they could be confused with persons of the same name. For those who might doubt this, the FBI has a ridiculous proof: whereas the planes burned and the Twin Towers collapsed, the passport of Mohammed Atta was miraculously found intact on the smoking ruins of the World Trade Center.

www.serendipity.li/wot/meyssan1.htm

 

The Basic Questions

 I've been working on September 11th oddities, including media and political analysis, Why did none of the 19 hijackers appeared on the passenger lists?...
www.911dossier.co.uk/pk04.html

... published his expos� Painful Questions: An Analysis of the September 11th Attack. .. The 9-11 Passenger List Oddity by Vincent Sammartino ...
batr.org/911/ - 75k - Mar 25, 2005

Wing TV - The 9-11 Passenger List Oddity ... by Vincent Sammartino ... and thanks to Victor Thorn's idea, the September 11th Victim�s Compensation Fund.
69.28.73.17/thornarticles/911passengerlist.html

911Timeline.net - 36 or 37 Missing And 70% Empty by Mark R. Elsis ... The same goes for the other three flights of September 11th. ... that five or four extra passengers were on board who were not on the passenger list? ...
911timeline.net/36or37missingand70percentempty.htm

9/11 Stand Down ... Scroll down till you see: AA11 Passenger List, UA 175 Passenger List ... The 4 airliners used on September 11th, 2 Boeing 767�s and 2 Boeing 757�s had ...
www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ELS305A.html

The 9-11 PassengerList Oddity ... The 9-11 Passenger List Oddity. Tue Mar 8, 2005 16:23. 64.140.158.85 ... thanks to Victor Thorn's idea, the September 11th Victim�s Compensation Fund. ...
www.apfn.net/messageboard/ 03-09-05/discussion.cgi.36.html


 


The FBI Is Lying - The 911 Passenger List Mystery

 ... your government about the terrible events of Tuesday, September 11th.
... COMPLETE PASSENGERS LISTS OF THE FOUR PLANES THAT CRASHED ON 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 ...
www.rense.com/general21/pass.htm



MOST of the passengers of flight 93 did not buy tickets more than 1 day before september 11th, and many of the others came from flight 91 !
Something Strange about Flight 93
DId anyone buy tickets for this flight more than 1 day in advace ?
considering that Flights 11 and 77 were not even scheduled to fly that day
this seems to be a bit of an extrodinary coincidence.UA 93: Why didn't the FBI advice the passengers?



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Sunday, January 29 @ 2pm/1C
Saturday, February 04 @ 11am/10C Note that a huge number of "flight93" passengers rebooked from "flight91"
Here is a summary from a team8plus-correspondent, who just watched it:

"....It was about three people who had planned to go on flight 93 but then didn't. One, whose name was given as Frank Robertazzi, said he decided to leave a little later than the time scheduled for flight 93 so he changed his ticket for a seat on flight 91, which was scheduled to leave at 9 a.m. TV viewers were given a shot of the ticket. It listed UA 91, September 11, gate 18, boarding at 8:50 a.m. According to Mr. Robertazzi, he went to the airport to catch that flight but was told it was cancelled because of the plane that flew into Tower One.
I'm not sure how this information fits the puzzle other than to point out that he obviously wasn't changed from flight 91 to flight 93. I had taped the show and wrote down Mr. Robertazzi's comment.
He said flight 91 was still waiting on the runway when news came about flight 11 and that it (flight 91) was cancelled and the airport was closed...."

www.bts.gov/programs/airline_information/airline_ontime_statistics/
http://www.bts.gov/cgi-bin/ntda/oai/DetailedStatistics/OAI_B1.PL?DetSta=DepSta&FirLevSel=DetSta
Newark, NJ, Scheduled Departure Time:

UA 09/11/2001 0091 UNKNOW SFO 9:20
UA 09/11/2001 0093 N591UA SFO 8:00
Actual Departure Time:
UA 09/11/2001 0091 UNKNOW SFO 0:00
UA 09/11/2001 0093 N591UA SFO 8:01

Wheels-off-Time:
UA 09/11/2001 0091 UNKNOW SFO 0:00
UA 09/11/2001 0093 N591UA SFO 8:28

Note, that "UA93" departed finally at 8:28 AM, but the official
version claims, it departed at 8:42.
Enough time for yet another "passenger switch":
www.flight93crash.com/flight93_timeline.html
"....This Pittsburgh Post Gazette has added a ... timeline on 10/29/01 here. Read it.
--8:42 a.m.: United Airlines flight 93 takes off from Newark International Airport. (40 minute delay from schedule 8:02)...
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 see also
www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.8
Something Strange about Flight 93
Were any of the passengers supposed to be on the flight?
12 August 2005
By Frank Levi, team8plus
"...on further examination of the stories of the flight
93 passengers I found something quite startling. The following table details
all the passengers and crew that were on this flight by chance - mostly moving
from other flights. There are some, like Alan Beaven who were reluctantly
called out to last minute meetings...."


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...and more on other survivors like Boonton resident Daniel Belardinelli. It isn't clear from this article below, if he also booked for "flight 91" first....

2 Morris men linked by chance and Flight 93
A&E to profile how they cheated death on 9/11
www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060125/NEWS01/601250337/1005
01/25/06

"...Belardinelli, 43, was supposed to be with his 60-year-old uncle William Cashman, who at that very moment was on a San Francisco-bound flight out of Newark. Several weeks before, however, Belardinelli had to cancel his plans to join his uncle for a vacation.

Around the same time that morning in New Jersey, East Hanover resident Frank Robertazzi, 47, was busy dropping off his little girl at school. He was supposed to take an 8 a.m. flight at 8 a.m. for a business trip, but Robertazzi decided to take a later flight because he loved taking his daughter to school. He then drove off to Newark Airport.

That was the morning of September 11, 2001. The flight that both Morris County men missed was United Airlines Flight 93 -- the plane that plummeted to the ground in Shanksville, Pa. after the passengers on board attempted to wrestle control of the plane from the terrorists.

These two men have never met, but their lives became forever linked when they managed to cheat death after missing the same flight. Now, their stories will be told starting this Friday in a special Arts & Entertainment Network show "I Missed Flight 93." The show will feature Belardinelli, Robertazzi and a third woman who also was slated to fly to San Francisco that day...

...In Robertazzi's case, he boarded Flight 91, which was supposed to leave Newark at 9 a.m. The flight never got off the ground and the passengers were told the airport was closing.



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 More on the profile of Frank Robertazzi

http://159.54.227.3/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060127/LIVING/60127041/1004
The Olympian, Jan 27, 2006

"...Frank Robertazzi, Daniel Belardinelli and Heather Ogle are among the people who ? by quirks
of fate ? narrowly escaped death by missing their flight (the infamous Flight 93) on September 11, 2001..."

Here another story, how he changed from flight 93 to flight 91.

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/saha/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1138254103118610.xml&coll=1
January 26, 2006

Back in September of 2001, Frank Robertazzi of East Hanover traveled quite often between Newark and San Francisco. He favored the 8 a.m. flight, United Airlines Flight 93. That meant he got into
California by 11 a.m., he said, which meant he could get in a business lunch after arriving.
But on September 11, 2001, Robertazzi had no lunch scheduled. And more importantly, school had just
started, and Robertazzi was having a wonderful time taking his five-year-old daughter, Aubri, to
kindergarten. So he called United and changed his flight, from Flight 93 at 8 a.m. to Flight 91 at 9
a.m..."


http://www.hazlitt.org/united/
"... Maureen Robertazzi. Wife of frequent flyer supposed to be on Flight 93 9-11-01...."
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Robertazzi, another high tech specialist, protected by 9/11-Insiders in time?

...like many other September 11th 'passengers', (especially on "flight 11" and "flight 77" -both flights did not exist in the BTS database!) also Robertazzi was a high tech specialist,
apparently in the semiconductor industry at CML Innovative, which is an aviation contractor.
Robertazzi's company is located at Hackensack, NJ 07601
http://www.chml.com/contact.cfm


http://www.chml.com/aviation/index.cfm
"...Every aviation lamp we produce is designed to meet or exceed critical requirements for light output and service life..."


http://www.emsnow.com/npps/story.cfm?ID=16606
"The Global Source for the electronic manufacturing serices industry"

Jan 10, 2006

"...NEDA's 2006 Electronic and TMC Development Forum "Redefining Business Fundamentals" at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tucson...
...Frank Robertazzi of CML Innovative Technologies..."

No substitute for consumption
http://www.my-esm.com/print/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19205584
05/01/2004
By Frank Robertazzi

"... Once again, the semiconductor industry is plumbing the depths of one of its untamed business cycles...."


http://www.chml.com/cml.cfm
"...CML Innovative Technologies is known worldwide for its ability to provide high tech solutions for applications throughout the aviation, automotive, consumer electronics and telecommunications industries..."

Robertazzi is also "vice president, worldwide geographic sales, semiconductor products, Agilent"
http://www.reed-electronics.com/eb-mag/article/CA405741?pubdate=4%2F1%2F2004

which is also an Aerospace-, Defense and Homeland Security Contractor.

http://www.investor.agilent.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=103274&p=irol-govBoard
Board of Directors
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posted for Brad who faces login problems:

Rory Owens Murray will forever take comfort in the final moments she
spent with her husband, John, on the morning of September 11.He was headed
to work at Cantor Fitzgerald Securities in the World Trade Center and
she was leaving for Newark Airport to catch a 9:20 a.m. flight to San
Francisco for a business trip. "When we said goodbye, it was full of
kisses and hugs and I-love-yous because we thought we wouldn't see each
other for a week," she said. Mrs. Murray boarded United Flight 91 with
her mother and 5-month-old daughter, Alyson Rose, but it never left the
gate. The flight attendants announced that a plane had crashed into one
of the World Trade Center towers. "Jack" Murray would have celebrated
his 33rd birthday September 17. "What is the hardest for me is that our
daughter won't have the benefit of knowing her father," she said.
Friends have decided to compile a scrapbook of letters and photos that
the child may read as she grows up, she said. "He was an amazing
father. I am sure so many people are saying that. But I do feel blessed
within five months of her life, he has shaped her personality," Mrs.
Murray said. "He loved music, he loved to laugh. He was a very happy
person who was at peace with himself." The Hoboken couple married in
1999 and moved to London in 2000, returning this year for the birth of
their daughter. Mr. Murray graduated from Salesianum High School in
Wilmington, Del., in 1986 and Boston College in 1990. After working at
other Wall Street firms, he joined Cantor Fitzgerald in 1995, where he
was partner and director. Some described him as "driven," said his
brother-in-law, Arthur Owens of Brooklyn, "but to me, he always seemed
very relaxed. He didn't seem like a stressed-out guy. In spite of the
fact of how busy he was, he was always available to his family." Five
years ago, Mr. Murray founded "Putt for Progress," a foundation that
raised money to study scleroderma, the chronic autoimmune disease of
the connective tissue. He was an avid sportsman and a member of the
Rock Spring Country Club in West Orange. Mr. Murray also is survived by
his parents, Philip and Mary Louise Murray of Wilmington; two brothers,
Philip and Michael; three sisters, Catherine, Virginia and Jayne, and
his grandmother.
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 (*thx to Killtown for transcripting)

 (*thx to Killtown for transcripting)


A&E's 'Flight 93' gets it right, no 757 at Shanksville!
From the movie
www.aetv.com/flight_93/index.jsp

"Is there a plane in there?"

"We don't know yet..."

"What do you mean?"

"...we're still looking for it...at first we thought it was in the hole, but there's nothing in there..."

"It must have landed in the woods, we haven't found it yet..."

"We're talking about a 757, here...it's a huge plane..."

"Yea, we know...you can help us look for it if you want..."





Watch the trailer here:
www.loosechange911.com/flight93.mov

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 Some notes about the uncle from Belardinelli, who did not survive "flight93":
www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011028flt93cashmanbiop8.asp
Passenger: William Cashman
Sunday, October 28, 2001
"...Cashman worked with his hands like his brother, a fellow ironworker, and father, a construction worker. Cashman served in the early 1960s as a paratrooper in the 101st Airborne Division, known as the Screaming Eagles...."
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 flight93"- 'survivor' has multiple links with United Airlines

Female "flight93"- 'survivor' has multiple links with United Airlines


Prior Knowledge, helped out by friends of her parents?:
abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1556671&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
Jan. 30, 2006
"...Heather Ross Ogle didn't want to wake up on September 11, 2001..."
Ross' own United Airlines "connection":
www-med.stanford.edu/shs/update/archives/oct2001/flight.html
OCTOBER 2001
"...Stanford emergency physician Heather Ross, stayed up late on September 10 at her parents' New York home. In the morning, September 11, she overslept and missed her 8 a.m. plane - United Airlines Flight 93...
...Ross, who is a flight surgeon for United
...John Ogle, also a staff physician in the emergency department...
...He's in the California Air National Guard. This guy jumps from airplanes..."
Did someone related with UA or the "Air Rescue Team" warned Ross in time not to take this flight and 'rescued' her as well?

Same Emergency Medicine Physician (Stanford) linked to UA and "Air Rescue Service":
flightphysical.com/aboutbizes/hrbiz.htm
Dr. Heather Ross
Role Founder
Title Co-Founder
Other Affiliations United Airlines / Stanford Hospital
Functions Strategic Planning, Public and Customer Relations, Graphic Design, Content Management, Airline Relations
Prior Experience Dr. Ross has worked as a flight surgeon at United Airlines and is an Attending Physician at the Stanford University hospital.
She has also served as aeromedical advisor for the Royal Australian Air Rescue Service. She is board certified in Emergency Medicine.
Employment History
Company Title Years
Stanford University Attending Physician 1999-2000
SC Valley Med Ctr Attending Physician 1997-2000
United Airlines Flight Surgeon 1999-2000
Education
Institution Degree Year
Sackler School of Medicine MD 93
Dr. Heather Ross's team members of FlightPhysical
multiply linked to United Airlines and U.S. Military
FlightPhysical.com Staff -- About Our Team

[64.233.179.104]
http://flightphysical.com/
Survivor-Husband promoted for NASA:
John Ogle, MD, MPH, FACEP is a commercial pilot and physician. Lt Col Ogle serves as Chief of Aerospace Medicine, 153rd MDG, WY Air National Guard.
...Flight Surgeon in the Air National Guard...part time as a airline flight surgeon for United Airlines..."
"...in September 2003, he was interviewed by NASA for a Mission Specialist Astronaut position...

Another member named "Scott Ogle" (possibly related to her husband John Ogle) is senior product manager for Merrill Lynch:
flightphysical.com/aboutbizes/sobiz.htm

Major Tony Bondoc
"...Major in the California Air National Guard, he is an active member of the 129th Air Rescue Wing..."
Other Affiliations:
flightphysical.com/aboutbizes/tbbiz.htm
US Air Force, United Airlines
US Air Force Captain 1997-2000
United Airlines Physician's Assistant 1999-2000

Dr. Tammy Foster
US Air Force, United Airlines
Other members:
flightphysical.com/aboutbizes/ccbiz.htm
Captain Chris Callahan, United Airlines pilot with 16 years aviation experience. Former US Air Force pilot and corporate jet pilot...
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AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11,
from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center with 92 people on board.

CREW
Barbara Arestegui, 38, Marstons Mills, Massachusetts*
Jeffrey Collman, 41, Novato, Calif.*
Sara Low, 28, Batesville, Arkansas*
Karen A. Martin, 40, Danvers, Mass.*
First Officer Thomas McGuinness, 42, Portsmouth, New Hampshire*
Kathleen Nicosia, 54, Winthrop, Mass.*
John Ogonowski, 52, Dracut, Massachusetts*
Betty Ong, 45, Andover, Massachusetts*
Jean Roger, 24, Longmeadow, Massachusetts*
Dianne Snyder, 42, Westport, Massachusetts*
Madeline Sweeney, 35, Acton, Massachusetts*

PASSENGERS
Anna Williams Allison, 48, Stoneham, Massachusetts*
David Angell, 54, Pasadena, California*
Lynn Angell, 45, Pasadena, California*
Seima Aoyama, 48, Culver City, Calif.
Myra Aronson, 52, Charlestown, Massachusetts*
Christine Barbuto, 32, Brookline, Massachusetts*
Carolyn Beug, 48, Los Angeles, California*
Kelly Ann Booms, 24, Brookline, Mass.*
Carol Bouchard, 43, Warwick, Rhode Island*
Neilie Anne Heffernan Casey, 32, Wellesley, Massachusetts*
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, Abington, Massachusetts*
Tara Creamer, 30, Worcester, Massachusetts*
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, Wilmot, New Hampshire*
Patrick Currivan, 52, Winchester, Mass.*
Brian Dale, 43, Warren, New Jersey*
David DiMeglio, 22, Wakefield, Mass.*
Donald Americo DiTullio, 49, Peabody, Mass.*
Albert Dominguez, 66, Sydney, Australia*
Paige Farley-Hackel, 46, Newton, Mass.*
Alex Filipov, 70, Concord, Massachusetts*
Carol Flyzik, 40, Plaistow, N.H.*
Paul Friedman, 45, Belmont, Massachusetts*
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, Brookline, Massachusetts*
Peter Gay, 54, Tewksbury, Massachusetts*
Linda George, 27, Westboro, Massachusetts*
Edmund Glazer, 41, Los Angeles, California*
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, Needham, Massachusetts*
Andrew Peter Charles Curry Green, 34, Santa Monica, Calif.*
Peter Hashem, 40, Tewksbury, Massachusetts*
Robert Hayes, 37, from Amesbury, Massachusetts*
Edward (Ted) R. Hennessy, 35, Belmont, Mass.*
John A. Hofer, 45, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Cora Hidalgo Holland, 52, of Sudbury, Massachusetts*
Nicholas Humber, 60, of Newton, Massachusetts,
Waleed Iskandar, 34, London, England*
John Charles Jenkins, 45, Cambridge, Mass.*
Charles Edward Jones, 48, Bedford, Mass.*
Robin Kaplan, 33, Westboro, Massachusetts*
Barbara Keating, 72, Palm Springs, Calif.*
David P. Kovalcin, 42, Hudson, New Hampshire*
Judy Larocque, 50, Framingham, Mass.*
Natalie Janis Lasden, 46, Peabody, Mass.*
Daniel John Lee, 34, Van Nuys, Calif.*
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, Charlestown, Mass.*
Susan A. MacKay, 44, Westford, Massachusetts*
Christopher D. Mello, 25, Boston, Mass.*
Jeff Mladenik, 43, Hinsdale, Illinois*
Antonio Jesus Montoya Valdes, 46, East Boston, Mass.*
Carlos Alberto Montoya, 36, Bellmont, Mass.
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, Framingham, Massachusetts*
Mildred Rose Naiman, 81, Andover, Mass.*
Laurie Ann Neira, 48, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Renee Newell, 37, of Cranston, Rhode Island*
Jacqueline J. Norton, 61, Lubec, Maine*
Robert Grant Norton, 85, Lubec, Maine*
Jane M. Orth, 49, Haverhill, Mass.*
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, of Los Angeles, California*
Berinthia Berenson Perkins, 53, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, of Dover, Massachusetts*
David E. Retik, 33, Needham, Mass.*
Philip M. Rosenzweig, 47, Acton, Mass.*
Richard Ross, 58, Newton, Massachusetts*
Jessica Sachs, 22, Billerica, Massachusetts*
Rahma Salie, 28, Boston, Mass.*
Heather Lee Smith, 30, Boston, Mass.*
Douglas J. Stone, 54, Dover, N.H*
Xavier Suarez, 41, Chino Hills, Calif.
Michael Theodoridis, 32, Boston, Mass.*
James Trentini, 65, Everett, Massachusetts*
Mary Trentini, 67, Everett, Massachusetts*
Pendyala Vamsikrishna, 30, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Mary Wahlstrom, 78, Kaysville, Utah*
Kenneth Waldie, 46, Methuen, Massachusetts*
John Wenckus, 46, Torrance, Calif.*
Candace Lee Williams, 20, Danbury, Conn.*
Christopher Zarba, 47, Hopkinton, Massachusetts*
 
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77,
from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard.

CREW
Charles Burlingame, 51, Herndon, Va.*
David M. Charlebois, 39, Washington, D.C*
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md.*
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Virginia*
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Virginia*
Renee A. May, 39, Baltimore, Md*

PASSENGERS
Paul Ambrose, 32, Washington, D.C.*
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif*
Mary Jane (MJ) Booth, 64, Falls Church, Va.*
Bernard Curtis Brown, 11, Washington, D.C.*
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif.*
William Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md.*
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md.*
Zandra Cooper, Annandale, Va.*
Asia Cottom, 11, Washington, D.C.*
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md.*
Rodney Dickens, 11, Washington, D.C.*
Eddie Dillard, Alexandria, Va.*
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va.*
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, Nev.*
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md.*
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.*
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Md.*
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, D.C.*
Wilson "Bud" Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.*
Darlene Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.*
Richard Gabriel, 54, Great Falls, Va.*
Ian J. Gray, 55, Columbia, Md.*
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.*
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va.*
Steven D. Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va.*
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va.*
Chandler Keller, 29, El Segundo, Calif.*
Yvonne Kennedy, 62, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia*
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va.*
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, Washington, D.C.*
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va.*
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, Calif.*
Christopher Newton, 38, Anaheim, Calif.*
Barbara Olson, 45, Great Falls, Va*
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, Calif.*
Robert R. Ploger, 59, Annandale, Va.*
Lisa J. Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va.*
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Maryland*
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va.*
Diane Simmons, Great Falls, Va.*
George Simmons, Great Falls, Va.*
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif.*
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y*
Norma Lang Steuerle, 54, Alexandria, Va.*
Hilda E. Taylor, 62, Forestville, Md*
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va.*
Sandra Teague, 31, Fairfax, Va.*
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Maryland.*
John D. Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.*
Vicki Yancey, 43, Springfield, Va.*
Shuyin Yang, 61, Beijing, China*
Yuguag Zheng, 65, Beijing, China*   

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175,
 from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, was the second hijacked plane to strike the World Trade Center, plowing into the south tower. Two pilots, seven flight attendants and 56 passengers were on board.


CREW
Robert Fangman, 33, Claymont, Del.*
Michael R. Horrocks, 38, Glen Mills, Pa.*
Amy N. Jarret, 28, North Smithfield, R.I.*
Amy R. King, 29, Stafford Springs, Conn.*
Kathryn L. LaBorie, 44, Providence, R.I.*
Alfred Gilles Padre Joseph Marchand, 44, Alamogordo, N.M.*
Capt. Victor Saracini, 51, Lower Makefield Township, Pa.*
Michael C. Tarrou, 38, Stafford Springs, Conn.*
Alicia Nicole Titus, 28, San Francisco, Calif.*

PASSENGERS
Alona Avraham, 30, Asdod, Israel.*
Garnet Edward (Ace) Bailey, 54, Lynnfield, Mass.*
Mark Bavis, 31, West Newton, Mass.*
Graham Andrew Berkeley, 37, Boston, Mass.*
Touri Bolourchi, 69, Beverly Hills, Calif.*
Klaus Bothe, 31, Linkenheim, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany
Daniel R. Brandhorst, 41, Los Angeles, Calif*
David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst, 3, Los Angeles, Calif.*
John Brett Cahill, 56, Wellesley, Mass.*
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, Turner Falls, Mass.*
John (Jay) J. Corcoran, 43, Norwell, Mass*
Dorothy Alma DeAraujo, 80, Long Beach, Calif.*
Ana Gloria Pocasangre de Barrera, 49, San Salvador, El Salvador*
Lisa Frost, 22, Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif.*
Ronald Gamboa, 33, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Lynn Catherine Goodchild, 25, Attleboro, Mass.*
Peter Morgan Goodrich, 33, Sudbury, Mass.*
Douglas A. Gowell, 52, Methuen, Mass.*
The Rev. Francis E. Grogan, 76, of Easton, Mass.*
Carl Max Hammond, 37, Derry, N.H.*
Peter Hanson, 32, Groton, Mass.*
Sue Kim Hanson, 35, Groton, Mass.*
Christine Lee Hanson, 2, Groton, Mass.*
Gerald F. Hardacre, 61, Carlsbad, Calif.
Eric Samadikan Hartono, 20, Boston, Mass.*
James E. Hayden, 47, Westford, Mass.*
Herbert W. Homer, 48, Milford, Mass.
Robert Adrien Jalbert, 61, Swampscott, Mass.*
Ralph Francis Kershaw, 52, Manchester-by-the-Sea, Mass.*
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, Willstaett, Germany
Brian Kinney, 29, Lowell, Mass.*
Robert George LeBlanc, 70, Lee, N.H.*
Maclovio Lopez, Jr., 41, Norwalk, Calif.*
Marianne MacFarlane, MacFarlane, 34, Revere, Mass.*
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, Derry, N.H.*
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, New London, Conn.*
Ruth Magdaline McCourt, 45, New London, Conn.*
Wolfgang Peter Menzel, 59, Wilhelmshaven, Germany*
Shawn M. Nassaney, 25, Pawtucket, R.I.*
Marie Pappalardo, 53, Paramount, Calif.*
Patrick Quigley, 40, of Wellesley, Mass.*
Frederick Charles Rimmele, 32, Marblehead, Mass.*
James M. Roux, 43, Portland, Maine*
Jesus Sanchez, 45, Hudson, Mass.*
Mary Kathleen Shearer, 61, Dover, N.H.*
Robert Michael Shearer, 63, Dover, N.H.*
Jane Louise Simpkin, 36, Wayland, Mass.*
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, Barnstable, Mass.*
Timothy Ward, 38, San Diego, Calif.*
William M. Weems, 46, Marblehead, Mass.*   

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93,
 from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, crashed in rural southwest Pennsylvania, with 45 people on board.

CREW
Lorraine G. Bay, 58, East Windsor, N.J.*
Sandra W. Bradshaw, 38, Greensboro, N.C.*
Jason Dahl, 43, Denver, Colo.*
Wanda Anita Green, 49, Linden, N.J.*
Leroy Homer, 36, Marlton, N.J.*
CeeCee Lyles, 33, Fort Myers, Fla.*
Deborah Welsh, 49, New York, N.Y.*

PASSENGERS
Christian Adams, 37, Biebelsheim, Germany*
Todd Beamer, 32, Cranbury, N.J.*
Alan Beaven, 48, Oakland, CA*
Mark K. Bingham, 31, San Francisco, Calif.*
Deora Frances Bodley, 20, San Diego, Calif.*
Marion Britton, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, San Ramon, Calif.*
William Cashman, 57, North Bergen, N.J.*
Georgine Rose Corrigan, 56, Honolulu, Hawaii*
Patricia Cushing, 69, Bayonne, N.J.*
Joseph Deluca, 52, Ledgewood, N.J.*
Patrick Joseph Driscoll, 70, Manalapan, N.J.*
Edward P. Felt, 41, Matawan, N.J.*
Jane C. Folger, 73, Bayonne, N.J.*
Colleen Laura Fraser, 51, Elizabeth, N.J.*
Andrew Garcia, 62, Portola Valley, Calif.*
Jeremy Glick, 31, Hewlett, N.J.*
Lauren Grandcolas, 38, San Rafael, Calif.*
Donald F. Greene, 52, Greenwich, Conn.*
Linda Gronlund, 46, Warwick, N.Y.*
Richard Guadagno, 38, of Eureka, Calif.*
Toshiya Kuge, 20, Nishimidoriguoska, Japan*
Hilda Marcin, 79, Budd Lake, N.J.*
Nicole Miller, 21, San Jose, Calif.*
Louis J. Nacke, 42, New Hope, Pa.*
Donald Arthur Peterson, 66, Spring Lake, N.J.*
Jean Hoadley Peterson, 55, Spring Lake, N.J.*
Waleska Martinez Rivera, 37, Jersey City, N.J.*
Mark Rothenberg, 52, Scotch Plains, N.J.*
Christine Snyder, 32, Kailua, Hawaii*
John Talignani, 72, New York, N.Y.*
Honor Elizabeth Wainio, 27, Watchung, N.J.*
Olga Kristin Gould White, 65, New York, N.Y.*   

[ogrady]

I have been reading reports of Victims Compensation Funds recipients, Social Security claims, (these contradict each other), and Ellen Mariani who stated that she is the only relative she could find of the supposed Flight 175. Can anyone think of a way to find these strangely silent people? The sites I've been reading state that not one relative of Flight 93 has applied for compensation. Not one?! Remember that the Northwoods document mentions using fake passengers. I believe this may be the case. Look into Barbara Olsen.

I would appreciate if anyone has any ideas regarding how to get public information about these people. Additionally, I just read that the real beneficiaries of the Victims Compensation Fund were the airlines who got billions more than all the individuals involved.

[otero1]

Alfred Gilles Padre Joseph Marchand was a former cop, and somehow he rushed off to be a flight attendant. I say he worked for some government agency or something like that.