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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2007, 06:14:35 AM »

Well, to all this I would like to say I remain to have an open mind regarding any and all of it.  That does not mean I am in agreement with the subject, just open to the possibility.  To make that possibility a reality where I would be convinced of the same, it would take better reference than saying  'particularily the melted steel' because obviously the residue of the massive amounts of cutter charges would also be quite capable of manufacturing the same // after all there should be no question that the same is used commonly to 'cut' steel // that's not a giant hacksaw at work there, it's the chemical reaction and the forces involved -- the by product of all that cutting is melted steel // this can be seen in its trapped form as it solidified afterwards while running down the cut beams.  A tiny example, perhaps.  But a multitude (magitude) of such cutting processes might very well produce a multitude of more of the melted residue (steel), maybe even forming into pools of the stuff.

Maybe (??) EW was used here, but also maybe (??) a simple explanation is that explosive cutting charges were at work.  In my mind one seems to out weight the other.  You are at liberty to guess which that is -- what proof exist otherwise?  What links, what references?

Saying 'towers were turned into fine dust' // no challenge from me there, but again explosives can account for this also.  Multiple explosives, doing far more damage than a fire cracker or two placed here and there.  High-tech explosives turn lots of things into dust, the more there is at work, the more likely it seems that dust would be of even finer substance -- Take a look at this example:

(suggest you might want to consider turning the VOLUMN DOWN on your speakers for this -- )http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hma_Bh45bD8

-- Even the nuclear physist, Dr. Steven E. Jones, suggest the use of multiple devices in the collapse of the WTC.  See this --

"Why Indeed Did The WTC Buildings Collapse"
http://www.physics911.net/stevenjones
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And I present evidence for the explosive-demolition hypothesis, which is suggested by the available data, testable and falsifiable, and yet has not been analyzed in any of the reports funded by the US government.(and this)
However, thermite, RDX and other commonly-used explosives can readily slice through steel (thus cutting the support columns simultaneously in an explosive demolition) and reach the required temperatures. (It is possible that some other chemical reactions were involved which might proceed at lesser temperatures.) This mystery needs to be explored — but is not mentioned in the “official” 9-11 Commission or NIST reports.

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Do you see what I mean?  Personally keeping an open mind to this -- there seems to be others (far more tuned in than I am) that are also keeping an open mind // but leanings towards explosives, mostly. 

Now if you please, and can provide supportive evidence as you suggest -- please do.  Until then I remain open to anything being a possibility since the only ones that truly know the details of what happened as regards any of this is the guilty ones involved.  For all others -- The puzzle remains scattered for us to try and sort and piece together.

My continuing thoughts.
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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2007, 03:00:07 PM »

My strongest argument is not the melted steel. My strongest argument is the DEW-consistent damage around lower Manhattan.
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« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2007, 07:22:35 PM »

Well I still think it was conventional weapons. But the russians have been intensively working on Tesla's scalar energy technology for decades. I've seen an aerial photo that purports to be a huge scalar weapon in russia. Alex mentioned that the fascists/communists and FBI/CIA are in bed together, or even created by the FBI/CIA, so one can plausibly speculate that they have access to scalar weapons via russia. Tesla experienced very bizarre material modifications and levitations with just an ordinary very high powered Tesla coil, and the scalar stuff is a whole step beyond that. There are rumours that the NASA Challenger was destroyed by scalar EM, and that the launchpad area experienced many small energy attacks shortly before the launch as the russians were doing trial and error targeting to get their aim correct. I'm skeptical about scalar used in 9/11, but by all means do search for "tesla scalar weapons" etc., and you'll see some very interesting stuff come up.
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« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2007, 01:59:47 PM »

All very interesting.  I find that I must correct myself on something // I said as regards cutter charges (having thermate in mind when I said that) that the by product was melted steel.

Well, as I understand it, that's absolutely WRONG.  The by product of thermate would be iron as a result of the chemical reaction interacting with steel.  Iron. 

Might be why Professor Steven E. Jones has been very careful not to call the molten pools of metal observed at the WTC as molten pools of steel.  That would contradict his research as regards thermate since as I clarified above would be molten pools of 'iron' // saying pools of metal kind of takes it all into consideration, I suppose.  Makes sense him doing (sayhing) it that way, regardless.

My continuing thoughts on this subject.

As to this subject, I suspect the author of the thread had in mind 'particle beam' energy weapons / I only bring up the more common possibility of explosives as in RDX etc because it seems the simpliest answer.  Whatever it was that brought down those towers, it was definitely linked to the stand down of military fighter jets to the rescue (they couldn't have been dispatched in a manner for which they train on a daily basis and had done successfully 67 times the 12 months leading up to 9/11) -- (they couldn't have been sent with any sense of true urgency simply because the time the airplanes NEEDED to get to their targets so all of us would think that airplanes and the explosive fire was what brought down the towers -- those same towers that had been rigged with explosives as in preplaced similar to what is done with a normal everyday run of the mill controlled demolition).  Long thought there, hope I was clear in the relaying of it. 

The fact remains obvious that a stand down allowed the hijackedairliners sufficient time to reach their target so we would be fooled.  Well, many of us were fooled; many of us continue to be fooled even up to today; while many of us WOKE UP to the TRUTH -- 9/11 was an inside job -- and whatever it was the bad guys actually used, the fact remains that it was their weapon of choice.  That 9/11 was a self inflicted wound -- however it was done -- That's the important facet here not to get lost around.

My $.02
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« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2007, 02:28:14 PM »

I looked up this type of energy weapon you speak of, basil_brush. One of the first things that came up involved Weather control. Interesting.
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« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2007, 04:28:33 PM »

Oh yeah, christ let's not get into the weather control, another huge subject in itself. That HAARP installation in Alaska (correct?) is a really dodgy thing. It seems there is nothing they won't meddle with. They will be the death us all if they carry on regardless. I remember some years ago there was an article in mainstream news about causing rain in connection with some aerial installation on a Moscow university.
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« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2007, 06:21:36 PM »

The HAARP installation is also involved with mind control. Columbine researchers at Konformist and NewsHawk report that HAARP was connected to the Columbine Massacre.
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« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2007, 12:50:08 PM »

Sane - you asked about prior testing of DEWs...

Perhaps 911 WAS just such a test... backed up by various conventional means as necessary to make sure something BIG happened IF the DEWs failed....?

Also... this was not just merely a military op... Silverstein was obviously in on it... as was Mossad...

Which just lends more credence to the idea of a CABAL operating within sectors of government, media, business, intelligence, etc.

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« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2007, 01:08:01 PM »

Sane - you asked about prior testing of DEWs...

Perhaps 911 WAS just such a test... backed up by various conventional means as necessary to make sure something BIG happened IF the DEWs failed....?

Also... this was not just merely a military op... Silverstein was obviously in on it... as was Mossad...

Which just lends more credence to the idea of a CABAL operating within sectors of government, media, business, intelligence, etc.

The op was military (combination of current/ex military - mossad/MI6/CIA/Black Ops -- I am including in military)

The wizards that financed/allowed it to happen must have included silverstein/rockefeller/cheney's energy crew/GE/Bush-Clinton/Queen Beatice/Rothschild/etc.

So yeah a big CABAL or pyramid of elites.

As far as the DEWs and this being the first test, I doubt it.  This might have been the final field test/live test but there must have been similar ones elsewhere.  And I do agree that this final whatever would have had the conventional as backup or as forefront with the DEW as a side test.  But they still would have had other tests on other buildings.
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