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« on: September 10, 2007, 01:54:05 AM » |
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Today i overheard the finnish radiochannel Radio Rock mention the american documentary "New York Terrorstrike part one" that is coming on former finnish channel 4 plus JIM and as crime documentary at 21:00.
Building 7 was mentioned and how it could be possible it collapsed freefalling without any plane hitting it. Then the discussion went on mentioning Loose Change and zeitgeist..
Hopefully more people here will wake up and watch this documentary here because with subtitles added to it it will surely reach more finns. I was very disappointed on the media not covering anything of 9/11/07 but at least the radio channel mentioned this and also remembered the anniversary.. Radio Rock is a pretty popular channel.. the only really that plays decent rock music..
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2007, 03:43:00 AM » |
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2007, 08:02:26 AM » |
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http://www.radiorock.fi/ohjelmat/default.htmi haven't found any stream saved from this morning of the show, because i was at work and heard it at the morning show between 6-9.30 a.m. It was only mentioned quickly as a reminder of the documentary.. http://www.telkku.com/tiedot?oid=32428596this is the program they mentioned at tv-channel JIM coming tonight at 9 p.m. Also a program about bush http://www.telkku.com/tiedot?oid=32428599 at 11 p.m. same channel. Ever since the Live Earth concert they've had reruns upon reruns upon reruns of the concert on almost every common channel.. Live Earth was the global warming concert.. here is the link to channel JIM where tonights documentary is described. http://www.jimtv.fi/dokumentit.aspthey're of course in finnish but i'm afraid i don't have time to translate right now.. i'm sorry i can't find more links on this..
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 02:54:08 PM » |
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god dammit.. it's just typical.. so typical.. prime time 9pm both "silence of the lambs" and "WTC documentary". After silence of the lambs ended of course a long documentary portraiting G. Bush.. guess which is more popular to watch at 9pm? a film or a documentary? Also the agenda in Pohjalainens todays paper. Two pages on WTC anniversary but no mention of 911 truthers only Rudy Guilianis compassion to the victims met by anger from firemen, Condolezza Rice mentioned, an old woman who has a memorial exhibition for the WTC strike and a fireman who thinks it is time to lay 911 behind us and go forward.. http://www.pohjalainen.fi/Article.jsp?article=270697I read the paper itself and there was more than on the internet article.. i'll try get my hands on that paper and get the name of the fireman.. I can't believe this censor and manipulation with anti-truth propaganda here.. unbelieveable..
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2007, 07:00:44 AM » |
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Amazing, thanks for the report. Looks like the evil media has it's hooks into more than just the BBC. This thread makes me want to go view Loose Change again. I will, thanks. I'd like to say this though: A person has to be learned to weed out what does get through; much of it comes at us distorted and manipulated to say things in one way that automatically makes you think in their terms -- psyops at play here when that happens. It's all over the movie Flight 93, it's in the evening news, it's in the 9/11 Commission Report, it's in the NIST report, it's in the debunking sites that exist even here in our wonderful internet news links, it's in the Popular Mechanics ediiton and their follow up book of lies. And then there's the works by author David Ray Griffin: Just to name a few: 'Debunking 9/11 Debunking' 'The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Qeustions About the Bush Administration and 9/11' 'The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions' '9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out' 'Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11'Turns out in providing you that list, I'm missing one myself. Gotta go find it -- It'll be packed full of TRUTH. 9/11 Was An Inside Job. Here's a video of DRG taken during a lecture in Copenhagen last year: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8119854514684528700&q=david+ray+griffin&hl=enFYI -- DRG has quoted Loose Change as a great reference for truth, saw it somewhere, read it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 08:36:11 AM » |
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Loose change is indeed a good wake up DVD, at least its gettig mentioned in finland, however, here in propagana-land (UK) we dont no mention of loose change on any of the MSM news channels. Media blackout on real issues like 911 truth, and about the families want a new investigation.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 08:48:36 AM » |
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Don't be confused about media blackout -- Loose Change gets little to none here in the USA either. Thanks to the internet that all changes however (NO PUN INTENDED). Same for you folks over there as well, the internet and DvD sharing is available to you guys too.. Here's a nice link to Loose Change (Second Edition) for you wanting to see it again: Enjoy (nd learn) -- Google Video (l hr; 29 min) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=%22loose+change%22&total=2683&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 08:57:11 AM » |
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I saw Loose Change 2nd edition just over a year ago way down here in New Zealand. It got the 911 ball rolling for me so to speak. The watershed moment was the close-ups of the "squibs" as the demolition took place. I think 911 Mysteries is the best doco ive seen but Im glad I saw loose change first.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2007, 09:00:26 AM » |
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Hello down there (New Zealand) hope you're having a nice day today. Here on the East Coast of the USA today, we're having a bit of rain // seems appropriate since today is 9/11 -- the rain reminds me of tears.
LC was the first documentary I also saw on 9/11. And as you said, glad it was my first -- led me to many MANY others, but it started it all for me as well.
Good to know the TRUTH is everywhere.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2007, 09:04:48 AM » |
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For sure Bro! Thanx for welcome... In Plane Site was played once LATE at night here but thats the only msm coverage. Are you anywhere near NY jbrid??? And whats going on where you are (protest wise?)
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2007, 09:22:28 AM » |
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I live about 300 miles from NYC // about 80 miles from the Pentagon. Actually, my home is within walking distance of Camp David.
Protest-wise // Haven't seen a thing. But of course in this rural area where I call home, the only protest expected would be between the few residents here and the many wild deer in the area. In both locations (NYC and at the Pentagon) demonstrations are certainly expected. They will be televised and most likely commented upon by such folks as Bill O'Reiley, and Geraldo Rivera -- because we really care here to make sure we get only the best news. Now that last sentence was a lame joke attempt from me -- but I am curious as the days proceeds what will show its face. I'll try to remember and keep you informed if anything out of the ordinary should happen. Sorry, I can't be a bit more informative but not much going on outside my window at the moment. And thank God for that.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2007, 09:38:35 AM » |
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I live about 300 miles from NYC // about 80 miles from the Pentagon. Actually, my home is within walking distance of Camp David.
Protest-wise // Haven't seen a thing. But of course in this rural area where I call home, the only protest expected would be between the few residents here and the many wild deer in the area. In both locations (NYC and at the Pentagon) demonstrations are certainly expected. They will be televised and most likely commented upon by such folks as Bill O'Reiley, and Geraldo Rivera -- because we really care here to make sure we get only the best news. Now that last sentence was a lame joke attempt from me -- but I am curious as the days proceeds what will show its face. I'll try to remember and keep you informed if anything out of the ordinary should happen. Sorry, I can't be a bit more informative but not much going on outside my window at the moment. And thank God for that.
Thanks man.. Any exposure is good exposure even if its bias. Wow walking distance? that camp david agreement was signed on 911 wasnt it, also I realsied the other day (though Im sure its been mentioned on the net), that GHWBushs famous NewWorldOrder speech was made on 911 1990 ELEVEN years to the day to 911 itself. George Herbert and Cheney give me the creeps but GW doesnt. I think hes just a kid really. He may not be in on the loop. I mean he might actually think there ARE terrorists (outside his family) : ) I better hit the hay its real late here
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2007, 09:38:50 AM » |
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My DVD burner as burnt out at the moment, so making copys of loose change, and some of the other 911 truth vidz have come to a real slow down, however, when my daughter "allows me" (or when she isnt looking) i use hers. I am waking people up, but this is at tortoise speed. Its good that people are waking up from all over the world, and loose change as had a BIG contribution to this, i woke up a year ago, like so many others, imagine how many people will be awake next year.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2007, 09:57:36 AM » |
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Thanks man.. Any exposure is good exposure even if its bias. Wow walking distance? that camp david agreement was signed on 911 wasnt it, also I realsied the other day (though Im sure its been mentioned on the net), that GHWBushs famous NewWorldOrder speech was made on 911 1990 ELEVEN years to the day to 911 itself. George Herbert and Cheney give me the creeps but GW doesnt. I think hes just a kid really. He may not be in on the loop. I mean he might actually think there ARE terrorists (outside his family) : ) I better hit the hay its real late here
Yes walking distance // less than an hour away walking down highway 550. Now turn that into a trip by car and if I didn't slow down, I'd miss the turn off for sure. Kind of got a little concerned when it was announced back in Sep 11, 2001 that a hijacked airplane might be coming this way. Didn't quite make it though, shot down over Shanksville, PA as we (many of us) have come to understand. The 8-mile debris field did it for me. The one-ton engine compartment found nearly 1 mile away, that did it for me too. How about for you? Here's that NWO video (Sep 11th, 1991) reference from daddy Bush you spoke about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg9IC65MHEo
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2007, 10:07:00 AM » |
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Yes walking distance // less than an hour away walking down highway 550. Now turn that into a trip by car and if I didn't slow down, I'd miss the turn off for sure. Kind of got a little concerned when it was announced back in Sep 11, 2001 that a hijacked airplane might be coming this way. Didn't quite make it though, shot down over Shanksville, PA as we (many of us) have come to understand. The 8-mile debris field did it for me. The one-ton engine compartment found nearly 1 mile away, that did it for me too. How about for you? Here's that NWO video (Sep 11th, 1991) reference from daddy Bush you spoke about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg9IC65MHEo I havnt seen any plane wreckage in Shanksville myself just a hole in the ground... Anyway it doesnt matter so much, the WTC collapses have got to be the smoking gun we can all agree on. Goodnite and thanx for the vid : )
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2007, 10:24:44 AM » |
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I havnt seen any plane wreckage in Shanksville myself just a hole in the ground... Anyway it doesnt matter so much, the WTC collapses have got to be the smoking gun we can all agree on. Goodnite and thanx for the vid : )
One more thing KIWI -- You're certainly right when you say not much airplane debris in Shanksville -- Stuff hauled away by the FBI was mostly outside of the city limits; much of the debris rained down over Indian Lake (about 2 miles distant from Shanksville) and was hauled away in large black plastic bags later in the day. Some stuff found in trees, but some stuff from what surely must have once upon a time come from an airplane on fire -- miles and miles away from Shanksville. There is certainly more than any ONE SMOKING GUN when it comes to 9/11. It's an entire shoot out with guns blazing in every direction -- from prior knowledge, to stock option deals, to the Pentagon round hole, to three buildings disintegrating into a pile of neatly sliced steel beams easily to quickly transport away, to no one ever envisioned they might take airplanes and attack us, to stand down to the plane is 50-, 30-, 10-miles out, to sitting in a classroom and reading while people are dying in this country, etc. Lots of smoking guns.
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2007, 12:53:43 PM » |
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Thanks for the replies and welcome indeed Kiwi. The more the merrier I overheard again the radio today on 9/11 at work.. The WTC strike anniversary was only briefly mentioned now and then, but they also said "911 memorial is not going to be held in the vincinity of ground zero but a bit away from it", which kinda made me think they wish publicity for the vultures and "celebrities" instead of the real honest working people at ground zero that shout 911 was an inside job until their voice gets sore and try their best to wake up people.. I get more and more amazed at what a level of NWO biased people are in the media over here. I do believe people have seen loose change over here but don't get proper output for it, but people do awake here also. There are some sites that cover 911 in finnish.. Need to find them and get links. What would REALLY do some proper impact on finns imho is getting decent subtitles translated to finnish for all the movies and i can't underline how a great difference this would do properly. The truth about it all is so obvious and in front of our eyes to see once we get passed the "trusting government blindly" attitude and really watch it. closely. properly. The history of radio and tv here has always had political biasness. tv channel MTV3 is for the social democrats and YLE channels for center party. every party have their own doubtable persons. I can't really empaphise with any party. The ones with a budget and mission over the whole country get the votes not necessarily the ones that matter, fight and work for it cos the media sure puts a stop to them. That i've seen myself. I remember my father saying "don't let the potties take over" a sort of version of "don't let the crazies take over" speaking of politics. I feel sorry for my own countrys mentality these days and ashamed really though i love my country things like these censorships, propaganda and manipulation are so wrong, so wrong.
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2007, 02:27:24 PM » |
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Loose change was on swedish TV4 Fakta yesterday: http://tv4.se/tvtabla/episode/478494.htmlWhat's good is that the text doesn't say anything about far out ideas or crazy conspiracy theories. Some snippets roughly(bad) translated: "Loose change: 11 september - en konspiration?" = ... a conspiracy? "Katastrofen ur en annan vinkel" = The catastrophe from another perspective ... "Men tänk om attacken inte utspelade sig som vi tror att den gjorde? Tänk om händelsen var manipulerad att se ut som om vi bevittnade en terroristattack." = But what if the attack didn't happen as we thought it did? What if the attack was manipulated to look like we witnessed a terrorist attack. And then basically point out the questions the documentary has about 9/11. Today they have Secret History Of 9/11: http://tv4.se/tvtabla/episode/478497.htmland 9/11 Mysteries - Demolition: http://tv4.se/tvtabla/episode/478498.htmland The Falling Man the next day: http://tv4.se/tvtabla/episode/478500.htmlI haven't watched the three other movies so I don't know if they're pro truth or whatever but I thought I could mention that they actually do have some stuff about 9/11 that is presented with objective text.
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2007, 02:36:30 PM » |
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HEJA SVERIGE "go sweden" !
thanks for letting me know that. swedish TV is visible at the west coast of finland and i used to watch it a lot since my native language is swedish. My finnish is just as good.. english needs work.
It's nice to hear swedish media are more openminded than here. very good.
Swedish TV has been limited here now due to digital tv broadcasts you have to pay 20 euro a year for a card just to see what you earlier saw for free.. all the extra fees now stink since there is so little tv offers these days.
your links i recommend watching Secret history of 9/11 and 911 mysteries is very good. The falling man the next day is unfamiliar so i can't say about that one.
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