Planning To Use Planes As Weapons

[jbrid1138]

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=nazi+&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go
June 20, 2001: Time Magazine Mentions Al-Qaeda Planning to Use Planes as Weapons  Time magazine reports: “For sheer diabolical genius (of the Hollywood variety), nothing came close to the reports that European security services are preparing to counter a bin Laden attempt to assassinate President Bush at next month’s G8 summit in Genoa, Italy. According to German intelligence sources, the plot involved bin Laden paying German neo-Nazis to fly remote-controlled model aircraft packed with Semtex into the conference hall and blow the leaders of the industrialized world to smithereens. (Paging Jerry Bruckheimer).” The report only appears on the Time website and not in the US version of the magazine. [Time, 6/20/2001] This report follows warnings given by Egypt the week before. In addition, there are more warnings before the summit in July. James Hatfield, author of an unflattering book on Bush called Fortunate Son, repeats the claim in print a few days later, writing: “German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target.” [Online Journal, 7/3/2001] Two weeks later, Hatfield apparently commits suicide. However, there is widespread speculation that his death was payback for his revelation of Bush’s cocaine use in the 1970s. [Salon, 7/20/2001]
Entity Tags: James Hatfield, George W. Bush, Osama bin Laden
Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline
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A very interesting and informative statement made by KRISTEN BREITWEISER -- Family member from 9/11 --
(the compuer voice may drive you nuts but the information is well worth the listen)
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1253737050442921782&q=no+one+knew+terrorist+would+use+airplanes&total=16&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[TOTL]

Well, as someone who knows many people in the aeronautics industry, I know how easy it would be to build a missile that looks exactly like any make and model of plane out there. So for those who say there "were no missiles" are you really sure?

[jbrid1138]

Good point, and how difficult would it truly be to paint a drone (a Global Hawk) to look like a Boeing 757?  Pretty easy, I think.  Just take a look at one of these things and see for yourself the size and shape -- flying in the air // It's a plane.  (no, it's superman --sorry, couldn't pass that up)

http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/rq-4_global_hawk.pl

[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]

Who is Planning To Use Planes As Weapons?Our gobvernment wouldn't do that to us! nobody would use Planes As Weapons,would they? I sure haven't ever heard of that before!
Do you really think someone hijacking a plane would fly it into a building? Nope,
that won't happen!
no sir, we got  NORAD to protect us,remember?? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,
Yes, but what about the towers and the buttagon??
They were hit by missles that were built to look like air friggin planes, Any one that wants to know the truth, The ORIGINAL FLIGHTS, PASSENGERS AND CREWS ARE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE ATLANTIC,THEY WERE GASSED AS SOON AS THEIR AUTO PILOT COULD TAKE OVER, AND WENT TO THE DEEP BLUE YONDER SLEEP SHORTLY THEREAFTER!!!!!!!

if what I said just now is not clear, they murdered 3000 in town with their missles, what is so hard to beleive they murdered a few planes and crews???

[jbrid1138]

Very very possible.  Looks like we agree here.  Like what you said and how you said it.  Sad but true, most likely.  The murder part for sure.

[whitelocust]

what makes you sure the flights were gassed and brought down in the ocean?

[Sonja]

I dont think anyone is SURE of this hypothesis, but several factors , as we speculate what happened make this a possibility.
For one thing, none of the people on those planes could ever survive to tell the tale, so it had to be a complete success. Where can you kill a plane where no one will ever find it? They also wouldnt want any unruly passengers, no rebels, no mistakes, no panicked passengers opening the exit doors and bodies flying out all over the US, so they would had to have them all nicely asleep.
In my mind there are a few problems with the theory.
If cabin pressure is lost, oxygen masks would automatically drop. The other is, if gas was released it would have to be really potent for some comando/Vet  or just a smart person, cover their mouth and nose and open the exit door anyway. Of course passengers might not have realized it was permanent, and who wants to jump out of a moving plane with no parachute.
However, panic certainly would have ensued to some extend and panic makes people do strange stuff. Maybe there were special ops on the plane that kept everyone calm-then made an exit, but that would mean witnesses and that is dangerous and suggests a crap load of people involved already.

Flight 93 is said to have landed in 'Cleaveland' was it? and disembarked, along with another 'cover' plane that day, this info has been buried in the black hole of lost information. I cant imagine what happened to those passengers, I mean how. Perhaps Loose Change Final Cut will deal with this alleged landing of 93, they did once early on. While I believe whatever hit Shankeville and surrounding area was shot/ or bombed out of the sky, the lack of bodies is truly telling, the lack of anything at all is telling. They must have bombed the hell out of whatever it was, maybe from inside.

What happened to the passengers is a missing link that understandably no one wants to adress in the delicate nature of it, but for me is quite important. If I were a millionare Id be following up on the following:
Did the families submit DNA to the government in order to 'identify' their loved ones. An easy enough question. Where did they get the original DNA?
Who really was on those flights? Track down every person and family, find out what their jobs were, do a thorough backround. Whats happening to the families now.
The WTC 1 and 2 families are very active. Id like to checkout the others.

I believe the wife, Barbara Olsen was set up. She died but never made the phone calls. That story, well, how many times can we lie about thee, let me count the ways. Cnn reporter-wife of politician, Id check him out as well, insurance, love affairs, marriage sqabbles, has he married his mistress? That story has so much BS around it, and hes another that just couldnt keep his story straight.

The Biggest, and why noone has done this I dod not know:
I would go looking for the alleged hijackers that are allegedly still alive and do an in depth documentary on them, why the FBI list hasnt been altered, and how many of these were allegedly identified by DNA. Ive heard even Truthers who doubt the BBC story still holds water.
Its become sort of an urban legend. Proving it true would blow the lid off the official story.

[Dan]

If I were a millionaire....What I could do.

1.  Prove without a shadow of a doubt that a fully loaded 757 traveling at 500 mph hitting a building made up of reinforced concrete could not punch a hole through six walls.

There is a video out there of the government test showing an F-4 jet on a test skid being rammed into a concrete wall at 500 mph.  The wall was a mock up of a nuclear facility containment wall.  The F-4 jet totally vaporized upon impact, yet the wall held intact.   Why not do the same with a 757 and a mock up of the pentagon impact zone.  invite all of the news agency's and pop mech also.  Video tape it all and see what we get.  If the results hold true to the official STORY, then we know that is is totally possible.  If not, well.......

2.  I agree with conducting a thourough search and background check of the victims and families of the flights.

I read operation northwoods recently and everything in there can be translated into events that transpired on 9-11.  The detonation of a drone plane over Cuba could easily be flight 93.  The whole passenger list and families could be CIA operatives.  No disrespect to the families if this is not the case.  But without a thorough investigation by an unbiased party, it should be speculated.  Also, the exploding a warship Gitmo Bay's harbor could be the pentagon.

3.  I like the idea of building a missile in the shape of a rocket.  I would do investigations into wheather or not it has been contracted or who is capable of doing so and investigate them.

4.  This is totally unlikely and way far fetched but If you could build a scale model of the towers.  I am talking about a scale model thirty or forty stories high and scale the impact to the proper measures.  See what happens.  Does it pancake?  or fall over.  Is the center columns still standing?  What does the metal look like?  Is the 'Jet Fuel' still burning?

"Jet Fuel" still burning?  I seem to remember that the official story said that the debris field coming out of the towers as they fell was from the wind of the compressing floors.  As one floor falls, the air on that floor gets pushed out of the side.  If this is true, then all of the carbon fires should have been snuffed out due to vacuuming the oxygen from the flames.  remove one side of the fire triangle and the fire cannot burn.  Fire needs three things, fuel, heat, and oxygen.  After the towers fell, they said that the raging fires underneath of the ruble was from the jet fuel.  What a joke.

Ahhhh......If I was a millionaire, What could I do..

Dan